How Many Men Are Really Incels? | Asmongold Reacts

[@capybaracapybara3640]

being a virgin does not make you an incel.

[@razier5299]

Doesn't incel just mean involuntary celibate so it would technically

[@k3m0t19]

it litrealy does,

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@razier5299 Unless the virgin is fine being celibate, in which case it's not involuntary.

[@HappyDragneels_page]

@@k3m0t19 it literally doesnt, plenty of people choose to be virgins until marriage for example, thats not exactly "involuntary" is it you absolute savant of linguistics

[@GotCamel]

Is what a 30 year old virgin would say.

[@minyaw1234]

I had a girlfriend in school. It's been 10 years. I stopped caring 3 years ago. People said if you stop caring it's going to happen. It didn't.

[@jeancouscous]

stop with anime pictures first. Doing nothing and waiting for things to happen won't make them happen. Go outside, talk to anyone, and you will have more chance than 0 to meet someone

[@highlow5294]

Just writing this prove that a part of you care. I am not dissing you just pointing it out. Just meet more people

[@koc3127]

​@@jeancouscousESL

[@LegendofGopher]

Nothing wrong with anime. Don't listen to them brother

[@NegitoroIsBestShip]

@@jeancouscousMy brother got his wife into anime. Maybe if you met a woman you’d know they like anime too.

[@vlarion2023]

You know I actually feel like it's better to hold off on any relationships because all I hear about from my friends are: DATE ---> BREAK UP --->DEPRESSION ---> REPEAT... And not to mention the financial and time upkeep.

[@isadora-6th]

Quite fun loop btw. If it was SOOO destructive, they will not repeat. How many times you touched hot stuff to stop doing it? Also don't put financial on yourself lol, girl should bring something to family too. It's some american thing im too post soviet to understand

[@SimplyToad]

@@isadora-6th giving birth is EXTREMELY painful women still do it. maybe its extremely diestructive but the first part seems worth it in their head. just like cocaine. when you arere on it you legit have dopaminee level higher than you can even imagine. thats how you get addicted to it. its legit a drug

[@crackdog3523]

@@FigsOfFury Big factor here. Folks I knew who were in relationships at like 15, 16, created that necessity. To the point where they CANT be single or messing with someone for more than a couple months at a time. They lose it when they're young and chase the puppy love through their early mid 20's, sometimes longer. they get dependent on being with someone, it becomes an expectation.

[@sk8ermGs]

@@crackdog3523So true

[@emberphoenix2922]

I dated girls my age for years and it was this exact cycle of rinse and repeat..... Finally I decided hmmmm I'm done with immature girls and I'm going to try and find an older women. It took me a while because many older mature women want mature guys they can have informed conversations with about topics many younger guys don't care to learn about. But I've gotta say, the first older girl that gave me the time of day, it was and still has been THE BEST relationship I've ever been in and all my friends have ever seen. All my friends always tell me wow how did you find her you are so lucky! And I truly do feel lucky, I get to do for the most part whatever I want, still have relationships with my guy friends but still have that female connection (and I'm not talking about go full blown gilf status. But a women 3-7 years older than you can make a world of difference

[@eliaspanayi3465]

There's a point where it's no longer involuntary celibacy, and just checking out of dating.

[@xordu4246]

I checked out of reality practically in middle school. Im only going so far as doing what i need to not to die homeless because both are horrifying to think about, dating isnt something i can even seriously comprehend.

[@MikeJensen-w2v]

cope thats just called being sent your own way

[@Adeptusmechanicus12]

Checked out of daring before even started. I can't ever see myself sharing with another person tbh

[@eliaspanayi3465]

@Adeptusmechanicus12 I tried it twice. It is so exhausting, its like you're expected to bend over backwards constantly and the second you don't feel like it or want to go to bed, you're the villain. Honestly not worth it.

[@Adeptusmechanicus12]

@eliaspanayi3465 That's what it seems like. I'm exhausted just trying to keep up with friends and family, can't imagine adding a partner on my plate. I need to be alone like 80% of the time

[@kwerby3285]

That fake dating coach bit was fkn gold 😂 just went through the whole RP gambit

[@philipwilliams6307]

​@MurderDronesMAPPride oh, so you've been using TOR, too, ha... how edgy.

[@slightlyaboveaverage2235]

​@@philipwilliams6307It's a bot, holmes

[@philipwilliams6307]

@@slightlyaboveaverage2235 yeah a disgusting fkn troll bot at that

[@WanderTheNomad]

​@@philipwilliams6307You sorta get desensitized to that when you see several of those comments on one comment thread, several of those comment threads on one video, and several dozen of those videos in one day, for a few months.

[@sawfeesh]

guys today: real gf: 0 internet / OF / Cam / Streamer gfs: 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[@Elias-t1x]

I am 22 years old and I have never had a girlfriend.

[@NuclearAcorn]

I know a guy at work who is 43 and never been in a relationship. He says he was abused as a child and has severe trust issues with people.

[@V4Now]

Have you been kissed yet?

[@srenpetersen1681]

29…😢

[@MrRafagigapr]

I think modern school system really makes kids be raised by teachers and develop boring personalities , the only friends and girlfriends i had were the people who were giving no fucks about trying to fit in .

[@SarevokRegor]

You aren't missing out on much

[@blessanabey5575]

Independent Single Men = Incels Independent Single Women = You go girl Gotta love our Gynocentric society.

[@k3m0t19]

wow that's an incel take if i ever heard one

[@newhope33]

@@k3m0t19 And in what way is he wrong?

[@Jezza_C_WT]

@@k3m0t19 How is it an incel take? Man's spitting facts lol 😂

[@dollaz4647]

​@@intothemindshaftnever heard of ts in my whole time on this internet beef😂😂

[@Lin_Nascimento]

@@k3m0t19 It's true tho, nobody is gonna make fun a woman for being single

[@JohnSmith-pn2ts]

It's the fact that personal contact in general has gone down with the internet; you don't need to leave your house for work, groceries, and especially social connection

[@saycap]

i love suburban isolation i love car centric land development i love college and workplace social monopolies i love isolation for profit i love not having a third space i love not having money to do anything about it i love that all of my suffering is due to the gluttony of a few billionaires gee i cant wait to wake up for another painstaking day inside this corporate meat grinder of a system we somehow call a civilization

[@bro918]

@@saycap work go home play video games x 50years

[@gadman85]

The word "incel" has lost its meaning. Its thrown around so quickly now. "You don't hate * insert person's name * 24/7? You don't agree with my politics? You have very basic standards? You don't want to be in an 'open' relationship? You don't see a woman selling nudes of herself on OnlyFans as 'strong and independent'? Well, obviously you're just an incel". In just the past couple of years, its become a meaningless term.

[@TheKalimanMX]

@@Binzob its literally used in every single example in OP´s post. And another case where the word inkwell is thrown around is when people dont like some sw33t baby Dee-Eee-Eye videogame made by danger hairs.

[@Eins3467]

Even the whole comment section is misusing the term. Incel is pretty much just an insult now.

[@johnfisher8401]

@@Binzobyou couldnt be further from the truth, its used constantly in all types of situations, its lost its meaning.

[@Kensuke0987]

@@Binzob but you are calling someone an incel for having a different experience/opinion than you

[@HS-hq6eg]

@@Binzob "You people"? What do you mean you people?

[@crimsonfricker]

The word "Incel" lost its meaning. People throw the word around any chance they get. The moment any guy shows a fraction of dislike towards a woman, "Oh, look at this incel." Most of these supposed "incels" are just angry dudes. They could have a million reasons as to why they're mad, and chances are, it's not sexual in nature. People also often use photos of completely random people who fit the visual stereotype of incel. Those photos with the fat dude with the fedora. Or dudes with no chins. Like, who even are these people? Are they REALLY incels?

[@arcticridge]

@@crimsonfricker incel just means loser nowadays

[@H00H-H00H]

That’s society for you homie

[@Notorious_Network]

Fact: 80% of InCels are Liberals/ Democrats/ Left-wingers/ anti-Trump-ers. 🤓

[@rosssivertson6339]

That has happened with quite a few words. It's a strategy that is used by left leaning people to shame people during debates.

[@musek5048]

@@H00H-H00H lol first time eh?

[@KingTai64]

"All lot of girls have been jumping on ween, lika a daily routine, long before they've turned 18."😂

[@alexderek5233]

And they still somehow have standards

[@m.a.w.5562]

bars

[@disruptor6550]

Eminem has been real quiet since this bar dropped

[@Remedy462]

I blame human instinct.

[@VVabsa]

@@Remedy462 Mehhh.... It was pretty normal when I was in my adolescence. Then again, it was normal for all youngsters at my part-time job or school to hang around after hours so mingling around eventually happened. That was just about 17 to 13 years ago till I actually got to 40 hour jobs. Perhaps something changed during those years.

[@reosin2536]

Be miserable in teens and twenties. Tryhard with gym, career, lower standards, etc. And have a chance to raise someone else's children. Don't forget being dumped for wealthier one and paying child support, giving up on a jointly owned property.

[@LBdreamin]

It’s easy. Buy more money. Drop standards, and raise average.

[@louiserocks1]

This is 100% true for western women, but (most) eastern women aren't like that at all. My wife is from Uzbekistan. My dad was only with my mom for less than 2 years, then he married a filipina woman and they're still together now. My best friend has a wife from Thailand. My coworker has a wife from Morocco. They're all happy and loving relationships with 100% loyalty and true love and no BS. It's not even about money or a free green card, many of these women earn more money than their husbands and are together for 10,20+ years and never had any problems, only happiness. They probably just like white guys? Idk. And another factor is that guys from their countries are really controlling and abusive so they just feel lucky to be with you

[@reosin2536]

@@louiserocks1 plenty of eastern woman where i am. same stuff along

[@ewg5511]

​@@reosin2536 Yea, not sure why this idea is being spread, it's women nature, meaning they're like this everywhere where it's not stopped by society/law.

[@grrr3500]

@@louiserocks1 incels call it geomaxxing

[@Larzuras]

The thing for me is, I'm not interested in a one night stand, I want someone I can spend the rest of my life with.

[@CuriousGeorge13]

And this is where Gerbert is on the right track. It's not about the lack of hookup potential for most guys but the problem of relationship potential. I know I can find a hookup if I want one, but I don't know if I can find a healthy relationship with someone in whom I might actually see a long future together. Hookup culture, among other things, has made finding and building meaningful relationships much harder today. I think that's the real issue. Getting laid may solve the incel issue for these guys, but unless they can form healthy relationship after they're still going to die childless and alone.

[@Kiryu_Kazuma01]

Same for me as well

[@AnonVideos]

You need to build a friendship first. Do things that put you in contact with single women who are qualified candidates for you.

[@yipyapfritfrat5028]

Then you might want to try church

[@noble61483]

​@@AnonVideosagreed 👍 that's what I did to meet my wife been together for 10 years now with 2 kids and life is great

[@kirigherkins]

You get used to it eventually as long as you have hobbies to keep you occupied. After enough years you just stop caring entirely

[@reubenmcmurray4377]

Im not an incel but after multiple failed relationships its very easy for me to now not want to be in a relationship at all.

[@BeatoricheChannel-yy4gk]

You call us inshells, but I will laugh when its your turn. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Oh yea, you want to go down the name calling path? FINE, I will play your game.

[@V4Now]

Ah apathy. I'm not quite dead inside yet, wish us luck.👌🏿

[@redridingcape]

Agreed. My free time is so easily filled up. I've got a group of friends that love playing board games and card games (we are doing a 2nd Frosthaven campaign now and it's awesome). I've got a ton of amazing games to play on Steam that I love. I've got a bunch of audiobooks to choose from that I generally enjoy. Tons of amazing KZbin videos to watch. My dad goes fishing and invites me with him in the summer and it's a good time to hang out in the shade listening to the radio and catch some fish for a fish fry. Honestly I've been wanting to get more active in my church too, but it's tough because I work night shift and the timing on a lot of it doesn't work out.

[@ang9303]

Liar

[@grayhat_9x]

Incel modern definition - Any man who's having hard time at any point of his life for any reason

[@RedEverything]

They called Henry Cavill an incel, even though that guy looks like a Greek god and is rich. The term has completely lost its meaning.

[@JaneyJ229]

Oh stop the pity party, it's pathetic

[@trustmeits610pm2]

@@JaneyJ229 You just proved his point. No one cares about men. In fact any expression of difficulty at all is viewed with open contempt.

[@DumbDecidueye]

Or any man who doesn't agree 100% with feminism (And no, I'm not making it political, it's just what I've seen)

[@EricEyetooth]

@Meduwusa An hero yourself

[@wontonschannel]

20 here. stopped pursuing women entirely when i got falsely accused of SA by a girl I was talking to out of nowhere. i still don't even know what i did wrong bruh

[@danielantony1882]

It’s just society giving women enough power to ruin men without any consequences.

[@ranouma147]

@@danielantony1882Most accusations never go anywhere. Plenty of real rape cases don’t go anywhere either since it’s hard to prove. “His word against hers” can’t punish someone you can’t prove is guilty.

[@Will-fr9hg]

You weren’t chad.

[@Wavyso]

@@ranouma147 so many girls say men sa’d them but never go to police because they know their lying but the goal was to ruin that guys social reputation in the environment their in

[@ranouma147]

@@Wavyso Many girls also don’t go to the police because they’re scared of it not going anywhere. Since rape is very hard to prove. I know several friends that have been raped and never went to the police. Some of my friends even watched their own mother get raped by horrible partners. Most rape happens in the family or by someone you know so it’s hard to speak out. Sure some lie about it too. But you’re way more likely to be raped by a guy (as a man yourself) than to get a false rape accusation by a woman.

[@Matt-on4of]

What are people supposed to do these to date? I've heard no one like dating apps, but then approaching and talking people out in public is often considered rude and no one likes that either. How the fuck are people supposed to meet these days?

[@KaletheMessenger]

Honestly, I've come to realize that there isn't a consistent right or wrong way to it, a lot of it's situational. Lots of people say stay off dating apps, but I found my last 2 relationships online. They're not the best, but they can work for the average guy. I've had some success and failures asking women out in public. It might sound like a nothing answer, but do what works for you. So women like it when guys approach them in public, some don't. Try and read the room and see if she's into the conversation or not. You're not gonna know until you get up and try. If you get rejected, take it on the chin and move on without getting mad or upset.

[@Matt-on4of]

@KaletheMessenger it's more curiosity on my end. I'm already married, so I'm looking at this from the outside and man, dating looks shit these days.

[@KaletheMessenger]

@@Matt-on4of Oh, don't get me wrong. There's definitely problems, I just don't think it's as hopeless as everyone makes it out to be.

[@AnonVideos]

Shared activities. Take a cooking class or diving class or join a hiking club… just find something that you enjoy doing. And do it with a group of guys and ladies. Socialize together. You can take it from there.

[@jessbellis9510]

Join some sort of social club or gathering. Women don't want to be approached on the street by some random stranger. We'll immediately be on guard and see it as a potential threat. When we're just going about our day, running errands and such we're not looking to socialise. We don't exist for men to potentially pick up.

[@PBRatLord]

Massive misuse of the world incel, it's really lost most of it's meaning at this point. There's a huge difference between creeps who can't get laid due to their personality and behavior, and those who don't pursue relationships or hookups.

[@arcticridge]

yes, one is Incel, the other is Celibate

[@MattDamon69]

What about creeps who can’t get laid then claim they don’t pursue relationships or hookups?

[@V4Now]

To be honest, both are valid. I mean, those that don't persue may not be creeps, but still failed, so stopped. There's this assumption that being a "creep" keeps women from you, when "creep" is a relative term. I mean, wouldn't you call serial cheaters creeps, or womanizers? Maybe I'm not making a good case?

[@DazHotep6EQUJ5]

The latter is far more common. I've never met an actual incel who is totally incapable of finding a partner and trust me, there are serious mongoloids where I live. There is someone for everyone, it's just not everyone is trying or actively looking for relationships. Flying solo is the way to go.

[@strategygaming5830]

DING DING DING. This is also very common for a long time. Men who don't have any money or property pursue careers and financial security then in their 30's when they have the career and are still in their physical primes they go to the women in their physical primes ie women in their 20's. This is no surprise to anyone who actually pays attention. How is 20 year old Jimmy with negative money because of his debts who 100$ is expensive for a date going to compete with 30 year old David who has a paid off car, a mortgage, and spends 250$ every date.

[@heelmoxley365]

Having a girl is like a second job. If you’re gonna dive back into that or even dive in for the first time, you gotta be sure.

[@Yggdrasill8]

Man, my energy is already depleted with daily duties and gym, no wonder men lose their hair and health in a relationship

[@morantNO1]

Not necessarily. Sure, no relationship will ever go entirely your way. But if you find the right person it can be very low on friction.

[@RDV333]

@@morantNO1Not true dude, even relationships that work are very taxing. for both parties.

[@WaltRBuck]

A second job you pay to have.

[@Dark_Automata]

​@@RDV333Depends how much you have to compromise on. More in common = less compromise = less taxing.

[@PowerofRock24]

I'm a virgin, but don't consider myself an incel. I don't hate women, and I don't really care, I just never met anyone I had chemistry with. I've had opportunities, but decided to keep looking. I even went on a date yesterday. She was clearly into me, I wasn't into her. She also didn't look like she did in her pictures, but whatever. I think the entire premise of dating is completely artificial and dating apps are the strangest yet most common way people date nowadays. Think about it, it's just a catalog of people you swipe through. No physical presence. No chemistry. I think the whole world is going to get much lonelier as we've lost what it means to be human. Even the President of the US broke up with us using Twitter. I don't think we're ready for a digital culture. It has only caused problems. There is also a double-standard. Single woman are praised while single men are shunned by society. I'm just out here trying to build a future for myself, I don't need to live the way you want me to.

[@daveeyes]

Well said, brother. You're not alone.

[@nathanwood3814]

Stay true to yourself

[@brianyaniro5086]

How old are you?

[@doggnamedchip]

I think the whole internet dating thing is bs. We need opportunities to meet people in real life, instead of everyone staring into their screens. In real life, I find it much easier talking to people than trying to find someone on online dating site with their outdated photos etc. The whole online society structure we live in doesnt give us a good place to meet people randomly and talk to them. Everything feels forced and fake.

[@PowerofRock24]

@@doggnamedchip It's much more difficult for a variety of reasons. The disappearance of 3rd spaces, the lack of shared community values, the proliferation of different sub-communities (mostly online) pigeonholing people, the abundance of prawnographic content. the illusion of more choice due an interconnected digital culture, uncertain future prospects in politics and economics, and the fake Instagram culture of airbrushed models and materialistic luxury lifestyles. Everyone feels entitled to a certain lifestyle because we're expose to it daily through advertising and social media 'influencers'. I believe these reasons contribute to why the birth rates are plummeting globally and why everyone is remaining single. How many times have you seen a woman say they won't date a man that doesn't make 6 figures or isn't 6ft, or a man say he won't date a woman who isn't a model? It draws ominous parallels to the infamous rat utopia experiment.

[@matteoorlandi856]

Nobody ever wanted me. Not an excuse to go around and be a creep or worse. Just, it would be nice not to be shamed because of the inability of getting laid.

[@matteoorlandi856]

@@isadora-6th i get 2 showers a day because in farming you Need to wash yourself often or you are gonna stink. Besides, i like to be clean. I have only few Friends and i don't talk about that, It would bring out only pain.

[@michaelhaz5006]

L take ​@@isadora-6th

[@Jezza_C_WT]

You could always pay for some company?

[@matteoorlandi856]

@@Jezza_C_WT i tought about that but i would hate myself After. Also, it's illegal in my country. Not for me.

[@JaneyJ229]

Ignore em

[@Pandamonium626]

The general idea of being in a relationship simply for love, companionship, and starting a family together seems to be dying in younger generations. Nowadays it's "what do you bring to the table" or "what can you do for me." All of the romance seems to be dead and we're left with something equating to a business transaction. That's so f*cking depressing man.

[@RealBadGaming52]

Lover existed

[@Luizfernando-dm2rf]

I'm 28 and I resonate with that. I have no intention of engaging in a relationship but I would very much enjoy a "friend with benefits". I already love myself enough to not need someone else to do that for me, the only thing I miss is some kind of physical validation so I can have yet another thing to like about myself

[@lasagnakob9908]

It doesn't help that there's a sentiment of "the world will end soon, so I may as well do what I want" even if the feeling isn't super intense, the media is constantly feeding them climate paranoia, world war 3, and declining birth rates; and everything is much more expensive now than it was for our parents and grandparents. So obviously young people are even less inclined toward bettering themselves, long lasting happiness, or learning useful day-to-day skills. We can't rule out the influence of social media either, negatively pulling people toward bad ideas. In a sense, the perception of there being no more hope is a self fulfilling prophecy, and it _really_ sucks this is the case.

[@toolittletoolate]

Because people can't afford to raise a family with a single working person. You have to know what people bring to the table if you're going to survive. A single person working full time can't afford a fucking house dude. The economy is fucked. You're blaming poor people for the state of the world the billionairs have left.

[@toolittletoolate]

@narendra7817 You just proved Asmonds point that you're taking your personal experience and projecting it onto every other woman on the planet which is ridiculous to do. You're taking your personal experience and extrapolating that onto the rest of the world which is extreme ignorant to do. You where hurt by someone, that doesn't mean the whole world is against you buddy.

[@Voidsmoothie]

I am 31 years old and never held hands with a female.

[@rodrigofreitas3288]

Damn, not even at school teamwork activities?

[@callumdavies6473]

Yeah same but I'm 25 I've nevwe had a relationship in person or anytbibt there's definitely a male loneliness epidemic

[@impaledface7694]

My response is I like bicycling and working out. Can't be bothered with this other stuff.

[@MrStinkels]

Same

[@NorthHollywood]

pfp checks out.

[@citizenx9149]

Most dudes that are labeled incels arent incels at all... they've been labeled as such by women that didn't get what they wanted from him....women use it in a derogatory way to shame men that won't hook up with em

[@NammaNeko-hg1ho]

That's the basis of very NTR stories. Guy tries, didn't gets. Especially when childhood friend is involved And see the comments, the MMC usually is labelled Beta or Incel. You get a glimpse of how fucked up it is

[@biosyn-ab4261]

Yep. I've been called incel and homosexual by women only because I wasn't into them. They literally can't take a no 😂😂

[@user-og6hl6lv7p]

@@biosyn-ab4261 That's when you say "Gee, it would be a real shame if your friends found out you're homophobic. Care to apologise?" Hold them to their own standards.

[@NihongoWakannai]

@@biosyn-ab4261 "you voluntarily rejected me? WHAT AN INCEL"

[@jointhefun4]

​@@biosyn-ab4261 you should date a man your true love is a male

[@rahn45]

I've seen the word incel thrown at people who are married and have kids. The word has lost all meaning, and really it never had much meaning in the first place because it was used to describe MGTOW as well.

[@jessbellis9510]

MGTOW it often made sense with since the MGTOW space was filled with dudes constantly talking about how to get women, or bitching about women. If they wanted to actually go their own way, they would just go live their lives.

[@jayc342009]

​@jessbellis9510 I'm mgtow and I actively avoid women unless they are friends or family. You don't know anything about mgtow, dating women is like literal hell for us and we try to educate all men on the potential risks they can face when dating/interacting with women.

[@Lonaticus]

@@jayc342009 you're still taking it to the extreme man. I've had my own fair share of misfortunes (fiancé cheated), but I don't go "educating men on potential risks". Come on! The best thing you can do is help and encourage others. Sure, warn them when there's too many red flags, but help/encourage when they found someone they can be with. I chose to live a more simple life after what happened, but I won't let bitterness take over me.

[@IOverlord]

Once normies aren't gatekept from any belief, ideology, etc. collapse is imminent.

[@toolittletoolate]

To be fair, There is an actual "incel" sort of mindset that originated from the incel forums that you can see replicated in other people regardless if they're incel or not. The expectation that women are to always be subservient to men, belief in TRAD values to the point of toxicity. controlling their wives and treating them like lesser beings. Massive double standards when it comes to hygiene and personal care like working out and staying fit. The guy who divorced his wife because she breast fed their second child and his ego took it as there being another man he was competing with his wife for. People using words wrong does not mean it has lost all meaning, It means people are commonly using the word wrong. It can slowly shift to mean something else then it originally meant. Gay used to mean Happy. Gaslighting does not mean "lying" to someone, it's manipulating them through lies to the point they question their own memories of events and believe your lies instead while actually going insane. People using words wrong as they become popular is people using the words wrong. You see someone use it wrong and you can write it off. If someone calls you an incel because you don't want your girlfriend to sell nude photos then they're a fucking idiot. You can have personal preferences that doesn't make you a biggot. If you think all women who sell nude photos are less then human and don't deserve to be treated fairly then you're an incel.

[@bigusdicus9004]

Yall, i own my home, my car is payed off, im still in my 20s. And she still nearly gave me HIV. Sometimes, you just have to put it all down and ask if its worth it.

[@xAshlyy]

Bro..

[@Daz86.]

Tell me you dont listen to limp bizkit without telling me you dont listen to limp bizkit.

[@earthphoenix7068]

😅 close one

[@Daniel_WR_Hart]

@@Daz86. He didn't do it for the nookie

[@SageBladeG]

Wtf

[@masterkek4243]

I know a lot of guys who just avoid trying to date because they see it as a massive risk. Not even ugly or have anything against women. I know before I graduated college, I was told by a few different people not to ask women out at work because of how easily they could get me fired (I actually did get fired once lol). The rate of mental illness is really scary, and if you piss of the wrong women they may very well try to destroy you. I think guys out of high school who aren't abnormally attractive or slick in their conversations are really the kinds who never find partners, as well as introverts who don't go out much outside of work.

[@leehalloway8787]

Don't ask woman out at work, there are usually rules against sexual harassment and fraternization at work. Damn near everywhere else is fine.

[@deaj8450]

​@leehalloway8787 See but that's literally the only place I have a reason to talk to a woman. I don't live in a place where there's stuff to go do that is interesting, so no clubs or groups really exist around me. Everywhere else outside of work, talking to women actually feels way more wrong because I have no good reason to initiate a conversation with them. Also, maybe this isn't true today but in the past the vast majority of relationships started at school or work.

[@iga1720]

You're saying there are serious risks for men. But what are risks for women?For example getting physically abused and killed (have you heard about 3 British women that were killed recently, because an ex boyfriend couldn't get over breakup and shot her and her family with a crossbow?) Yes, some men get physically abused, but im general men are statistically more aggressive and committ more murders.

[@deaj8450]

@@iga1720 The risks are different for men vs women. Men aren't worried about getting assaulted, r'ed (not sure I cam say that on yt) or murdered, they are worried about losing all their house in a divorce and having to pay the woman who cheated on them hundreds or thousands a month. They're worried about losing custody of a child. Of course both have risks, they are just different types of risks. Men's risk is more in the long term commitment game. Women's risk is more present in the immediate sense with new men they don't know yet.

[@deaj8450]

@@iga1720 Risks exist for both, certainly, the risks are just different. For women it is often violence in some form. For men it is things like losing custody at a high rate, paying alimony or child support to someone who cheated on you, losing your property, that kind of stuff.

[@cronus-kumo]

That part were it says "In a recent study it showed women with good relationships feel less depressed after time." Isn’t that like obvious? As if it took a damn study to proof that point

[@javiersp]

Studies are done to avoid bias amongst other things. I can’t even count the number of times something is taken for granted and turns out that cold, unbiased data proves that things are quite different.

[@NihongoWakannai]

@@javiersp Data is often very biased, the way people choose to measure and present data can completely change the results. Journalists are incentivized to misrepresent studies for clicks, researchers are incentivized to post bogus misrepresented studies to get into journals and get funding, journals are incentivized to publish bogus papers to get more readers, peers are incentivized to positively peer review bogus studies so their own bogus studies get reviewed well too. The whole system is broken and the only way to really know if a study is true is to have a strong understanding of experimental procedures and statistics and read through them yourself or somehow find someone who you can truly truly trust who helps you understand it.

[@wedmunds]

It's easy publications. A lot of researchers unfortunately don't care about actually advancing knowledge, just publications.

[@kenshii9d147]

We don't live in a common sense society

[@gihdih3602]

Im 21 and i cant even imagine myself in a relationship, it feels like theres noone out there that i can trust and that has similar values or outlooks on life as i do. I figure ill just stay single till i die, since ive always been a loner ive never felt like im missing out so i dont do anything about it, its more the societal pressure from parents and peers that makes me want to get in a relationship.

[@Tiasung]

@@solarydays Yes, natural selection applied to the whole of humanity as its racing towards the abyss.

[@Joji047]

I feel the exact same way as you do bro

[@gihdih3602]

@@solarydays i dont see why that is relevant, unless you care specifically about your genes being spread, even tho im a bit nihilistic i see value in the intellectual legacy you leave after you die, however i dont place much value in the genes

[@pp-here]

I'm 27 and I accepted to be single for live. Its hard some times but desperation is no help and it poisons the mind. Just learn to live with it and see the bright side of life 🎶 😉

[@MR.BONES007]

Ngl u can’t trust these women nowadays u might get setup or worse

[@BMG_Giving]

I just turned 30, had a bad experience with my last GF and I see what happens in marriages today with the divorce rates. Hate to say it but men who make women single mothers and ghost will be the ones whos bloodline continues

[@Cruxis_Angel]

Nearly 50% and that doesn’t include people that are miserable still staying in the marriage. I’m nearing 30 myself and you start getting slim pickings. Either single moms, mental illness, or you have to date younger. Most girls that are a catch are taken by 25.

[@jessbellis9510]

Divorce rates would've always been as high as they are if women had been allowed to get divorced or the social stigma behind divorce wasn't so bad.

[@jessbellis9510]

@@Cruxis_Angel How about you stop looking at women like they're trophies?

[@bisky-z3s]

Me too. I left a relationship where the girl would hit me (I have a broken spine so I couldn't really fight back). Got pushed into a relationship by a new girl who ghosted me after she constantly begged to come over and do stuff for months. She lied behind my back because her commie ex-bf guilt tripped her. I never knew about any of this until I got attacked and banned from everywhere I worked (I used to host events). Lost all my friends, career, and everything I ever worked for. She's since apologized and admitted to lying and creating the rumor, and that she regrets it but I've cut everybody off since then and don't trust anybody getting close to me anymore. So I see divorced men as kindred spirits but it's shocking how common it is that men lose everything because a woman decides so on a whim or to dodge accountability.

[@ReiyICN]

@@jessbellis9510 What is up with this trend of clapping back with takes that superficially sound good but completely miss the point being argued? It's like trying to have a conversation with someone who only knows to clap back with "BELIEVE ALL WOMEN!" when the point of the discussion was about guys wanting to have standards of their own. What part of not wanting to deal with miserable women implies that the guy just wants the girl to sit around looking pretty? What part of wanting a high quality woman implies looking at woman like they're just trophies to be collected? By your logic, any single woman that is looking for a guy that's a catch only sees the guys as trophies. Which actually might be quite appropriate if they only judge men by the most superficial metrics of height and income. How about you stop regurgitating braindead takes because it gets the idiots in the crowd riled up, even when you're offering nothing of substance?

[@Aweburn82]

Blame internet. Less personal contact.

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Blame Internet. Zeitgeist is artificial and easily manipulated, so everyone on internet too much is probably too politically polarized, scared, and distrustimg of the world around them.

[@gakidomo9561]

No, blame the Government for letting it go wild and not looking into the personal life affects, this sht hits hard bro. Its either the Boomers or Millenials who is exploiting us next Gens,

[@Aweburn82]

@@12ealDealOfficial Bingo.

[@lightworker2956]

I blame social media and internet dating, personally. And it also doesn't help that both men and women are spending so much time looking at impossibly pretty people on screens all day, which makes normal people seem less appealing.

[@imalizard2113]

Smartphones are the big culprit. Having the internet/social media at home is one thing. Having it in the palm of everyone's hand 24/7 is the worst part.

[@machinegunpictures]

This is the product of social medias effect on women, making 4’s thinking that they’re 8’s.

[@NicholasBrakespear]

More importantly, it's making 4s think they're entitled to 10s. Women date up, an unavoidable fact of nature and evolution, but it used to be that they'd date... a couple of points up, and ultimately make their decisions based on highly localised dating markets - no long distance temptations.

[@lordlynkz]

You have got to be a bot. Brother, the problem is you... using a number scale.

[@ibechuu9695]

Red pill speak is catching on, not necessarily a bot thing ​@@lordlynkz

[@machinegunpictures]

@@lordlynkz huh?

[@lordlynkz]

@@NicholasBrakespear you sound like low esteem.

[@Natzawa]

I can guarantee you that the word is being thrown around by spiteful or misinformed individuals, and that most of these people aren’t actually incels.

[@dorian763]

most people don't even know what the word means. Its not just term for virgins...

[@Natzawa]

@@dorian763 There are tons of valid reasons why men or women may not want to date others. It could be related to financial reasons, sexuality, lack of confidence, disinterest with life itself, skepticism, a bad divorce, ETC. It doesn’t make people like that incels. Incels are typically men who don’t like women. And then blame women when they have their own problems that they’ve created themselves.

[@Ardante11]

I hate when KZbinrs who do gaming reviews and livestreams/walkthroughs call other gamers incels, because those other gamers did not like a game or disagreed with content in the game that was out of place. Makes no sense whatsoever.

[@cno733]

Th opposite. So many more men are incels than people are realizing. Its just that the term has become synonymous with bad angry man, not simply involuntary celibate, so men dont want to self identify because of the stigma the term has.

[@Natzawa]

@@cno733 You ever think maybe there’s more to it than that though? There’s tons of reasons why men might not want to date other people. Whether it’s related to their income, depression, self-confidence issues, general disinterest, ETC. I can’t name off everything because it will get flagged like it did earlier when I was responding but yeah lol.

[@AD-rn1ti]

RIP to all the Maidenless 💔

[@YammoYammamoto]

Underrated! :D

[@YammoYammamoto]

@FullmentalAlcoomist If you understood the reference - you wouldn't have asked. :D

[@AlexiosLair]

I don't need maidens, I have Igon.

[@WorldWalker128]

Those of us that are that way on purpose really do sleep peacefully. No unnecessary drama.

[@LawfulBased]

There are indeed few maidens around even though they are so coveted. All while there are tons of selfproclaimed Queens around and as the saying goes: *_" It is not the crown that makes people respect you as royalty. It is the peoples respect that makes your crown legitimate. "_* An aspect mostly missed by most "Queens" out there.

[@MerlinTheCommenter]

Gerber’s a classic comedian. His channel is legendary. I remember when he used to post on 4chan about how he would go more viral by clowning both sides. Thought he was just larping back then but look at him now.

[@polketex5043]

The Fence Sitting formula slop always work look at Aba n Preach and Moist

[@theFORZA66]

​@@polketex5043its literally just called being a normal human being with nuance to their opinions and not blindly following one side

[@BBBBBBBBb333]

​@@theFORZA66 reddit wholesome chungus to you my friend

[@polketex5043]

@@theFORZA66 Sort of but like you can watch one of those guys on a topic and know the others opinions which is usually the most based Twitter take ever on every topic. It's just the same Copy and Paste slop. It's like as if they wait for the "Popular" consensus on a Topic Situation Issue etc then and then just reiterate the talking points.

[@Mephitinae]

@@polketex5043 "Fence sitting" works because both sides are always clownishly wrong about one thing or another

[@RivoningoBaloyi-yu5iz]

You're right that past community structures were often oppressive, but we need to ask why they were like that. Today, people often avoid accountability, blaming others instead. Past community structures often enforced accountability, which is why they seemed oppressive; individuals had to answer to the community. These structures acted as social authorities. Once we removed that authority, we lost accountability. We traded social freedom for a lack of structure, so we shouldn't be surprised by today's lack of accountability among individuals.

[@dejanhaskovic5204]

Hahahahahah this man wants a nanny state

[@satisfiedconsumer649]

Maybe you should cry to the government and let them fix everything for you

[@NihongoWakannai]

That works great so long as you are the one oppressing not the one being oppressed.

[@donutdonutdonut]

"Incels" or maybe we just dont wanna deal with the bullshit of dating today?

[@bobbobber4810]

Voluntary celibate are not incel. To be incel you need to want to date and failing. At least in the original definition of it.

[@arcaneterror7]

If that was the case, then why so much complaining from incels or why even label themselves as much

[@Ruddline]

People forget that word is "volcel" voluntarily celibate.

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

@@arcaneterror7 Same reason why Palestinians "are Hamas".

[@imadust]

COPE

[@torturedexistence029]

That's a lot of maidenless waiting for the release of AI sexbot 3000, fully customizable

[@Andefir]

At this point idk if im trying to make more money so i can support a family or just get one of those

[@Masked_Official]

The easiest way for an 18-29 year old to get a girlfriend is to be 35-50 years old.

[@eggheadusa]

The easiest way was going to high school Or having female friends that hooked you up. Definitely the latter was the best, so informal they bring the chick to ur house too

[@abrvalg321]

Male childhood is the hardest for the first 40 years.

[@liquidemotionzz3232]

Hook up with the girls at work ...I'm 33 and was able to pull a 25 year old and 29 year old ..and they gotta be crazy lol

[@augmenautus]

Why is that so true? 😅

[@Eirikr07]

Women don’t REALLY want 35-50 year olds… they want their money

[@Logan69420]

I'm 30 and have never had a girlfriend. Never even kissed or been on a date.

[@scrawnyserf9298]

Same. I'm 32 and it's getting weird going to family get togethers or just large gatherings in general since I'm the only one there that's single 😅😅

[@gawr-niggurath935]

Bro 30 is kinda insane.

[@Logan69420]

@@gawr-niggurath935 It is what it is

[@mikemcmahon3118]

well other option is pick a wife who has had 50 other buddies in her and get a deal to read lines for some medication about living with herpes

[@iMogggYouuu]

Geomaxx immediately

[@tundranocaps]

Don't forget a lot of people are voluntarily celibate. That's what's rocking Japan - it's not that these people can't get relationships, but they don't want to.

[@user-um7jx9mc2r]

In Japan it’s more like they don’t even get to think about a relationship. They work insane hours with 0 freetime

[@Good_Madi]

South Korea too.

[@deadturret4049]

Basically me right now. Im not happy with where I am in life right now and I would prefer to get my shit together instead of subjecting someone else to it. I'm okay with it.

[@tundranocaps]

@@user-um7jx9mc2r "I'm too busy to be bothered with having a relationship" is one of the reasons people are VolCel.

[@FrawgfithAmblose]

Well many hikikomori have genuine mind imbalance and they do wish they were confident and cool like their favorite anime and video game characters, they were just set back by the rigorous society and strict upbringing that broke their mental state and trust for society so they shut themselves away yo avoid it all

[@vulkanofnocturne]

When women trend towards polygamy:

[@MrRafagigapr]

Women have been chasing men that could afford to give them a stable life , a plumber in 1970s could easilly raise 3 children with a wife that has no full time job , and now we live at a time we work more hours and can't achieve any financial stability a, affording to have a home puts you in the top 8%

[@blessanabey5575]

Thotpocolypse helping them too.

[@garenthal9638]

As they should. It’s nature

[@bazookaman1353]

​>Stable life >Hybristophilia

[@Gundumb781]

do women actually trend toward polygamy? can you give a source for this?

[@factoroppolis6557]

Better to be single than to be with a woman you force yourself to love.

[@lorale8095]

This is so true. A girl got crush on me and co workers kind of pressure me into accepting her but I don't like her, i only talk to her less than 10 times we don't know each other and suddenly it's my fault for not going on a date with her.

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

@@lorale8095 What happened? What do you mean "your fault"? Did she commit sudoku and in her note she said "if only this one guy at worked would've asked me out, I wouldn't have done this."?

[@Nanohamage]

@@lorale8095 it's your fault for succumbing to the pressure and accepting the date despite not liking her

[@JasonStanton-s9s]

Women virginity: 📉 Men virginity: 📈

[@AFIXFORNIX]

Tell me you didn't see the video without telling me you didn't see the video.

[@JasonStanton-s9s]

@@AFIXFORNIX I can't because I did.

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@AFIXFORNIX It's about 33%. About 40% of men historically didn't pass on their genes. Take that however you will.

[@TheNonEdibleCheese]

Heard a guy speaking once about how in the past, men didn't have to work their ass off to find a quality woman, but nowadays men have to work their asses off for a low quality woman. Too many women nowadays expect perfection from men while not putting forth any effort of their own.

[@doggnamedchip]

I think a lot of this is just internet being a visual medium. Men are visual creatures, women not so much. But you cant build chemistry with photos. So we end up with this situation where men find it difficult to meet women, because its all visuals based.

[@Nobody90019]

@@doggnamedchip Wrong.

[@doggnamedchip]

@@Nobody90019 Cool. Thanks for sharing your wisdom buddy.

[@justacoginthefkery]

​@@doggnamedchipyou're spot on with that. The concept of online dating was actually created by men based on the way men think. Women have been dropping off the apps in recent yrs partly because the process caters to men yet does nothing for women. Many want to complain about "women only want the triple-6", but you also have to consider how social media pushed the "high value standard" in recent yrs. So you njw have a combo of pushing ppl towards shallow primary decision-making & social media brainwashing telling both men & women "this is what is required." Then you have an added layer of "online dating is the only way. You'll never be good enough though." That drives male insecurity, increasing social avoidance which then adds to their insecurity & anxiety making men more hyper-reliant on apps. App user data shows that the M:F user ratio is now at 4:1 on average. Can't get matches without women to match with, right? Reality is apps don't need both genders to be successful. They just need active profiles. By keeping men stuck in the cycle of hyper-reliance, companies stay making profits on a broken system.

[@mr.squanch]

Is anyone surprised by the math that shows this, or is it just me? If men and women are represented in roughly equal proportions in all age groups, and one half is increasingly losing relationships, that means that either the other half MUST also be experiencing loneliness in equal proportions, or some men are keeping a harem, meaning they have lots of women at work at the same time. This also answers the question of who or what a chad/tyrone is. If I had to guess, I'd say it all takes place between the ages of 18 and 30. Chad and Tyrone have fun with lots of girls, while the girls all ride the same cucumber carousel together.

[@iga1720]

Young women want older men, so young adult men lose with adult men. A lot of guys in their 20s are silly (not that there's something wrong with it, but I'd prefer someone more serious). Of course there are some exceptions from this rule (my fiancee is 6 years younger), but most of men I met that were the same age or sligthtly younger were just not at the same stage of life and maturity. And when it comes to a bit older women that are alone - if you have a failed marriage and a small child you want to be careful with who you date. My mom stayed single for years after my father cheated on her, because of safety precautions (more precisely a new partner that could potentially harm or molest a small child). Elderly women are indeed lonely, because men statistically live shorter and their older husbands pass away quicker than them.

[@Josh-sz8ip]

​@@iga1720 Denial. Women prefer young men

[@mr.squanch]

@@iga1720 "Older women are actually lonely because men statistically live shorter lives and their older husbands die faster than they do." Come on... that's nonsense. The difference is about 1-2 years. And secondly, it doesn't explain anything at all, because the age group we're looking at here is between 18-30. So if we ask ourselves what's going on with the female part of this age group, if the boys in the same age group are all single and we assume at the same time that the same is not the case for the girls to the same extent, then they must either all share a few men or experience loneliness themselves. There is literally no other explanation. And now take another look at your answer to my first comment and ask yourself whether anything explains it or makes sense. I particularly like the thing about dying earlier because it's so wonderfully coincidental and completely off topic. So, of course I'm not just writing this and I've done a bit of research. And guess what... "It's estimated that 45% of women ages 25-44 will be single by 2030, according to a study by Morgan Stanley." That should be very interesting in the future. While boys lose out between 18 and 30, the whole thing turns around at around 30. Most boys will probably have everything together by then. The problem will then be that these boys can choose what they do from then on, even if they don't do it until they're 35 or 40. It doesn't matter whether they're American woman or from somewhere else, because they remain fertile until old age. For a 30-40 year old woman, on the other hand, everything will be a complete nightmare if she hasn't managed to get married and have children by then, if that's her wish. A social time bomb is rolling towards society. Maybe I should invest in companies that produce cat food, because it looks like the future of female loneliness will also usher in the age of cats.🤔

[@wastrelperv]

I legitimately think it's women embarrassed to admit that they don't have anything. Women are much more obsessed with relationships and whatnot. Most the women I know are single. I've not witnessed the phenomenon of Chad-chasing except for on my college campus with a visible minority of girls. Most people don't even go to parties, they just prefer staying in their dorms. Parties are sausage fests too often and the girls I see are often the same girls over and over.

[@Nanohamage]

that would be true if sample size was the whole population but since it's just small segment of it it could be anything

[@porolegend4840]

Don't even want a girlfriend right now, I just want to find a friend that I can hang out with

[@Vix584]

Amen to that. Friends are so important.

[@KoneKlubKult]

I'm married and I have no IRL that live around me anymore. I moved out to the country, so I kinda did this to myself. I don't have time to go hunt up more friends.

[@Roger-fs5yo]

Yeah I feel ya man. I'm 46 and after the death of Vincent Abbott, I've learned that all my rowdy friends have finally settled down. You know it's like nobody wants to get drunk and get loud anymore. It's too bad really🥺

[@bbyshady]

Dog

[@LightSilver7]

@@KoneKlubKult it doesn't have to be the end all be all for you. that's a choice. chances are many looking for friends were you're at too. keep reaching out.

[@kgonepostl]

Many men are waking up to the fact that modern day relationships is trash, and would rather do other things.

[@LiLBitsDK]

and they find out they are richer with no risk of some ho3 taking 50%+ of everything they own, they can do exactly what they want when they want... and their cost of living falls like 80% when they are single...

[@unc1221]

@@LiLBitsDKI’d rather pay for it now. Much more time efficient. Look at Leonardo DiCaprio

[@LiLBitsDK]

@@unc1221 yeah all women costs money to screw... it's all about how much they will ruin from you and for how long... going to a lady of the street is a one time fee and it's a lot cheaper than half of everything you own so I unerstand the guys that use that method

[@DCCCXVII]

Natural selection taking course.

[@EstherMoffett-d7h]

If you are not a Chad and you want a hot girl, you must go for crazy. That dating advisor is right.

[@df8340]

Nah, women want a dude who’s not a nut job and can survive and not burn down the house if they go on a girls trip for the weekend

[@gavinclarke714]

@@df8340she’s not going on a girls trip fuck that

[@darkworld8]

Define "chad"😅

[@MR.BONES007]

@@df8340I’m sorry buddy she’s not going on a girls trip😅🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@df8340]

@@MR.BONES007 she is lol, poor incel can’t leave his girls side since he can’t trust her. That’s incel behavior

[@Jaceyyyyyyy]

Better to be a incel than a simp 😉

[@rotgutthebloated4730]

Definitively!

[@BoneMarrowBro]

Cope

[@DanaWhiteBoym8]

Not really u have more of a shot been a simp

[@eggheadusa]

Play a social deduction game with a chick and you’d see why simping is far worse. Yesterday I was playing a game where I converted a guy to my traitor team and since a chick he was following wasn’t able to be converted he tried snitching us both out. I played it like he was lying rest of the lobby took them both out lol

[@tristentamatea4325]

Both have issues 😂

[@WilliamAGould]

One point so many ignore is that the economy is the worst it has been in decades. Most responsible men are not going to look for a relationship when they have problems maintain a job and home just for themselves. Historically, most men look for a relationship after they have a stable job and own a home. Most men in the U.S. have neither at the moment.

[@-PureRogue]

Idk about it , historically people used to already be married at very young age, doubt they had any security. If anything even if you look around world, it is developed countries that have least children and marry late , or not at all.

[@WilliamAGould]

@@-PureRogue Actually, there were two paths in history on this. Those that marry young were usually arranged marriages, with both families helping the new couple get on their feet. The other way was the man to have a job and home, then look for the wife. Both ways were shown to work.

[@Armchair.extraordinaire-bo5mv]

Home and land ownership is illegal in the U.S though. You can thank the cowards of the past for that.

[@WilliamAGould]

@@Armchair.extraordinaire-bo5mv Property taxes and those behind such theft is a whole different can of worms. Be as it may, the situation may change soon. But, that is for another discussion.

[@Houshalter]

People in past were much poorer and didn't have these problems. Nor do people in poorer countries today. It can't be an economic issue, though I'm sure money helps.

[@magigooter2096]

What a lot of people don't understand is that the marriage/relationship discourse was tainted before the social media and corn. Divorces were going up in the 80's and 90's and it's just accelerating. The answer goes way deeper, it's too uncomfortable for most people, and requires a massive reduction in the privileges women enjoy today, so this won't be solved. People are going to have to adapt. Single and even sexless is going to be the norm. Even Morgan Stanley projects 45% of women aged 25 - 44 will be single and childless by 2030. It is what it is. I feel bad for people that can't live a fulfilling life without somebody next to them. They're gonna have a rough time.

[@berubettonyan]

Not as many as people act like there are. Not actively pursuing a relationship with a woman doesn't make you an incel btw.

[@Dan_Kanerva]

it does according to women

[@jessbellis9510]

@@Dan_Kanerva No it doesn't.

[@Dan_Kanerva]

@@jessbellis9510 yes it does, the ammount oif college girls that think so is insane

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@Dan_Kanerva the college indoctrinated hardly have a say on what is or it isn't anything.

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@jessbellis9510 tbf, some will call you that even being married and with children, it's all about saying something they don't like.

[@funtickle646]

I wouldn't call myself an incell I'm a virgin by choice been mgtow before it was a thing grew up in a single mother home saw how Bat sht crazy women were 1st hand my mother divorced 3 men in total before I moved out saw here drag my father and 2 other good men I looked up to through the court system and ruined them I told myself that will never happen to me

[@LucasImpulse]

do not let your mother's actions deprive you of the companionship you deserve, that will be a fourth man whose life she has ruined.

[@LucasImpulse]

@@solarydays usually they don't realise because they never think of it like that, but the fact is staring him in the eyes that she would ruin a fourth man's life, it's up to him if he wants to accept it or not.

[@PainReliever]

That's my outlook on things as well after having been betrayed myself. The risk / reward of a relationship isn't worth it. You are saving yourself a lot of emotional turmoil by staying away from dating, as it almost always ends in a break-up.

[@dafunkmonster]

"grew up in a single mother home" Found the problem. Don't judge marriage by what your mentally unstable mother did.

[@JoeBurner1720]

Being a virgin isn’t a bad thing and it doesn’t make you an incel

[@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR]

@@JoeBurner1720 so you know about, the implication?

[@PentaRaus]

More often than not, it does.

[@JoeBurner1720]

@@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR Being a virgin alone doesn’t make someone an incel.

[@ridiculogan2962]

what you're saying is true, but it's also a coping mechanism

[@kiratwo4u]

lol the coping

[@randommortal3383]

The problem isn’t getting laid. You can get laid and be lonely. The problem is having a reciprocal, stable and peaceful long term commitment. You can be the Chad that Chad’s aspire to be and still get rocked. Tom Brady has no problem getting laid but still cannot have a long term relationship.

[@randommortal3383]

@@Zippit367 Tom Brady was obviously an innately extreme example because he's a top 1% man. The point was if Tom Brady was put through the meat grinder, what chance does the average man stand?

[@dingus6317]

@@Zippit367 The dating market is not good even for the top 1% of the 1%!

[@dingus6317]

@@Zippit367 I guess if they are the type that likes to run through women they are having lots of fun, but what about if they want a true connection with someone who likes them for more than their money? It must be pretty hard to find that at that stage of life.

[@JLWprime10]

The problem is it’s hard to get laid and it is if you don’t have any money.

[@ariaroflcakes]

Bro I'm 35 and I'm single. I rather work for myself and help my parents for their retirement stuff.

[@jasonchippendale1958]

I'm 37 and I gotta say this is upsetting. Don't let life pass you by. Bag an easy one for the confidence boost, shit, if you ain't shallow she might even turn out to be a really nice gal.

[@PirateOfTheWastes]

@@jasonchippendale1958that’s crazy and risky just to do it for a confidence boost: you can build your confidence many other ways. Forget that noise risk getting an std or a child or having your livelihood stolen

[@Kuroganemk2]

People are so into studies that they forget how the data is gathered. It's usually all self reported and from a tiny group of people that could be skewing into one extreme, never really to be trusted. But for some reason, one study comes out and it becomes gospel.

[@RDV333]

True, for some reason bad sociological studies with laughable sample sizes and methodology still get taken seriously.

[@themodfather9382]

That is 100% absolutely untrue

[@Jezza_C_WT]

lol for real. You look at the sample sizes of these so called "studies" and they're often laughable. Sure, you extrapolated that from 12 people in a non clinical environment over 3 weeks, and now it's blasted all over social media as fact? Okay 😂

[@robotjesus555666]

Go to university Use the university data archive to get refferences and resources for your paper Realize like a quarter to half of the papers you read through are poorly written or not done correctly

[@gianlucag100g]

> tfw prof says use the uni's social studies archive for a paper on virginity stats > think, "easy A, free knowledge" > start reading papers > first one's sample size is like, 10 people from their church youth group > next one correlates virginity with left-handedness > i could write better shit while sleepwalking > maybe i should just drop out and become a professional data analyst > at least i'd be making money off this shit > sigh > back to this dumpster fire > free ramen noodles in the vending machine tho made by gemini ​@@robotjesus555666

[@Koneko_Chan777]

Poor doll... She's being violated throughout the video XD

[@rotgutthebloated4730]

Yeah he is creative

[@darkshark3906]

She’s gonna be violated after the video also

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

@@darkshark3906 🤣

[@kingpuff10]

The problem is a massive double standard, we have all these progressive ideas saying men and woman are supposed to be the same/equal but we are in fact different and treated completely different by society.

[@Jemuzu80]

After 7 serious relationships and being cheated on by all 7 I eventually said fuck dating. I'm over it all that drama and bs. Can only be stabbed in the back so many times before you get tired of it.

[@powerneed1023]

same but i stopped after the 5th one

[@elegantblue19]

So sorry to hear this. Your such a handsome guy please dont give up on Love. Judge the pattern.. what was common amongst these women? Try something new different to what ur use to ☺️ wish you all the best with finding ur Soulmate ❤

[@AnonVideos]

You need to take a break. That many cheating on you means you’re missing something. Take that break, maybe you are showing desperation or lack of confidence or something. Work on yourself and get back out there when you are ready.

[@Jemuzu80]

@@powerneed1023 I was done at 6. 7 was obsessed with me. To the point I was creeped out. Friends convinced me all like it is different no way this one would... yeah lesson learned.

[@tangerinc]

If all of them cheated on you, you're prob a bad apple picker

[@NukeCaulfield]

I'm so glad i was born early enough to have been with several women before everything changed. Its been a long dry spell but at least i've had the experience. My heart really goes out to all the guys who never got the opportunity and likely never will.

[@MR.BONES007]

It’s so Joe over💀

[@AnonVideos]

It sounds like you’re dating very young women. The older ones in my experience do not have any change in their mindset, they are still approachable and available. They think these young girls are wacked

[@0nzer0]

@@AnonVideos older women usually come with kids from former relationships

[@AnonVideos]

@@0nzer0 Many, but certainly not all. There are many without kids for many reasons, especially those that decided to go the professional route. You might find one making more money than you 😊

[@StaceySmythe]

@@0nzer0Are you implying that women with children are of lesser value? I am a solo parent to two boys, their father is dead. Does that automatically make me lesser value?

[@cy2cri]

I have friends who are attractive females, and they've explained they like the bad boys because they're fun, but guys that have their shit together may be a good choice they're not fun all the time. Its all about entertainment.

[@chasejackson7248]

They will be old cat ladies soon.

[@AnonVideos]

Been like that since at least the 1950s. Many men don’t understand that in order to attract and keep women interested, they have to play a game of attraction and teasing. Too many men never work on their charismatic abilities. Those that do get their choice of women. At age 30-35, many women begin to panic if they haven’t had kids yet. The dudes with no game may land a desperate woman, who then quickly gets bored and lets her body and the relationship go.

[@glosske]

Like you wouldnt choose the funny goth girl over the boring duchess

[@LalaDepala_00]

I'm a Christian woman and I am single because I got hurt too many times. I live at home and I'm focussed on family now. I don't really care about dating anymore. The last guy I dated pretended to be traditional, but he was for the streets. He was also insulting me every single day and always angry at women. I genuinely need time to heal from that. A lot of traditional and religious women are single by choice these days. Too many hateful men out there.

[@Smoothballoon]

@@glosske no actually not. me and most men would choose the one with the lower body count that still has pair bonding ability. Also, why wouldn't i choose the funnier person as if woman don't constantly say they don't like nice dudes and boring guys. lol, double standards.

[@Alex-on8yu]

If Asmongold hadn't become famous, he would be on our side. It's over for us and I really hope to hear "It's over" from society someday.

[@iMogggYouuu]

Normans will only embrace the socially acceptable BP

[@davenunyabusiness4893]

Asmon would be one if he didn't have streamer clout and we all know it.

[@Doombl4de]

Nah he's just a rat XD

[@CHROMEDOME0000]

false because he has the ability to be outgoing and has an assertive personality which is key to pull women. having some internet clout or even money isn’t the girls magnet you think it is

[@MrRafagigapr]

@@davenunyabusiness4893 nah , lots of girls are ok with stick guys for one night stands, fat guys have a way harder time doing the same because they are a majority in USA , he just doesnt have patience for a long term relationship, i was the same too , messy house disorganized, shit eating habits , weak body , low energy , then i started taking the right adhd medication and im happy in a 10 year old relationship. Mental disorders are real shit , his mom seemed to struggle with addiction due to adhd too just like my father did

[@RDV333]

@@FigsOfFury Bro he has four teeth and showers every two weeks, lives in a house with mould and plays videogames all day. Confidence only takes you so far.

[@jfelton3583]

He absolutely knows this. Females love validation and attention. A man that can get them attention is just as good as a man that has money. He has both all while not looking the least bit of attractive to any of the females he's surrounded by

[@ToureTaylor]

The term Incel is extreme misused to the point where I don't even take it seriously. I seen people mix up or confuse a "Simp" with an "Incel" without realizing. I thought Incel described a person who is not only involuntarily celibate but also, inhibit traits of bitterness, dumb unrealistic standards and, self-destructive behaviors stemming from the inability to attract a Man or Woman. Now days, people will scream Incel mainly at men who seem like they are single but desperate online. Incels also share the similarities of victims of pro-longed bullying. People resorting to mocking and insulting Incels because they're Incels will only give Incels more excuses to be bitter and deranged in their minds. How people respond to it by jumping to conclusions only make it worse.

[@EricEyetooth]

It’s probably the most misused internet slang term ever, even by ol Asmon. Completely meaningless.

[@zeeteepippi275]

It's funny how these qualities have broadened out so much as the definition has narrowed over time. Bitterness = frustration at being chronically blamed and demonized as a class. Unrealistic standards = expecting a woman to somewhat take care of herself and not be a complete bitch to you. Self-destructive behaviors = not worshipping women and acting as their personal jester to please them. Now all of these things make you a lncel.

[@impaledface7694]

Main issue is it gets tossed around for so many reasons. Like a hot take that people think is bad, criticizing a woman, or whatever other bullshit is. If anything has come of this is it's better to just ditch that crap and do stuff in the real world. Sometime it's my goal to be called all those names, since it means a comment struck a nerve.

[@evilalex87]

virgin and incel are not the same thing

[@albinopenguin2520]

If people use those words interchangeably then it technically does

[@dorian763]

@@albinopenguin2520 It does but it shouldn't. Stupid people that are too dense to read a definition and learn the meaning of terms destroy the power that language and words have

[@aftereight9143]

How many virgin men choose to be virgins? Especially since the men in question are younger, full of vitality and raging hormones. It is extremely likely that if you're a virgin male you don't have a legion of girls chasing after you.

[@UmbralGenesis]

@@albinopenguin2520 no, it does not change the actual meaning. that is not how language works.

[@mikeoxlong3676]

It literally is the same thing. If you want to get laid but cannot you are involuntarily celibate.

[@DerpMcDerp101]

As long as a relationship can cause you to get arrested over a money judgement this problem will not stop. Its destroying people.

[@xarganthos2324]

i'm 35 years old and i am incapable of finding someone. i'm not good looking, shy, introverted, dont put a lot of effort into my appearance, and even though i've tried to meet girls in the past, nowadays i find it impossible to even entertain the thought of going out and meet someone. maybe i've already given up or got too comfortable with being alone. but i also dont really complain irl or online, because to me thats just how it is.

[@rotgutthebloated4730]

Why not buy a doll?

[@eggheadusa]

Find a chick that’s on your level, if not satisfied. Than level up

[@themodfather9382]

Nobody cares

[@eptx830]

​@@themodfather9382 I care. ❤

[@EricEyetooth]

@themodfather9382 I care. Keep your head up xarganthos.

[@Timithos]

@19.56 Asmongold just "just be confident, bro" 'd us.

[@letopizdetz]

Just be careful not to go to the other extreme :)) A lot of shy insecure dudes just turn into loud, shitty insecure dudes and think they're "chads" :))

[@bigimportantman1544]

If you could sleep with almost anyone… why would you sleep with an incel? That’s the female perspective.

[@redhgffdsgd1605]

While sending a love letters to literal inmate.

[@HELLO7657]

Uhh, because you want a long term partner and not just hookup?

[@guillaumejoop6437]

@@HELLO7657 ahahahahahahahah... wait you're serious ? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@fbwjjwbs]

​@@HELLO7657Are you seriously serious? Oh the irony 😂😂

[@lightworker2956]

I get that women are hypergamous, but the path that lots of women are on is quite likely to lead towards them eventually being a miserable, single, childless 50 or 60 or 70 year old. And while being a single 20-something is fun, being a single childless 50 or 60 or 70 year old isn't.

[@inoriol]

I just feel tired for dating. Women on dating apps are looking like an empty dolls. Literally 90% are listing "eating" and "sleeping" as their hobbies, with occasional "Disney" and "Travelling". I'm usually getting around 1-2 matches per day, but it feels so tedious - because hardly anyone makes an effort to initiate a dialog. I'm fine with less that average girls as long as they are intresting to talk it, but they have their own issues. Half a year dating with one of those and she bans me and vanishing from my life as long as I suggested sexual intimacy in very gentle way. And yea, improving myself sounds nice, but most of the times you don't even have a clue what to improve exactly. Getting a pair of pet rabbits feels way more socially fulfilling that all of that, best decision in my life.

[@karlhans6678]

Asmongold is a youtube celebrity and is paying the bills to have a gf, he's not the guy to be criticizing inkwells. He says that men don't put the effort to better themselves, what effort has he put in? He's all day at home watching youtube videos, he's literally what he criticizes.

[@rebeldeconcausa9227]

Following the path you like with passion even if society labels you "nerd" "videogame addict" "lazy" and you have to sacrifice "normal" things like girlfriend and family is very difficult work but has great rewards.

[@scotte1096]

TBH he full committed to something, which is more than most people do.

[@dri748]

Wasting his life experience for content. Sad.

[@everrets387]

No it doesnt have rewards asmon is just lucky to have fame and not die from a random disease. This isnt commitment bro

[@FordHoard]

I mean it's his job. It's like a radio broadcaster. Of course he has time off where he does other stuff, but he's making money doing this.

[@iAmMantequilla]

The mannequin mic holder is genius

[@GastNdorf]

Bruv it’s not a mannequin, it’s a ‘’love’’ doll

[@V34035]

Ik is a funny joke, the incel one. But it is kind of scary. Seen good friends that I had in High school. They weren't bad looking 6 or 7 even 8 out of 10. But women just didn't pick them; they went after the bad Bois type of guys, and I mean, the men they picked were literally just using them for the fun times. So these guys just turned like them to get girls. I feel like we are going on a road where we completely destroy relationships to have a fun night with a person.

[@eggheadusa]

It’s about confidence and vibe

[@isadora-6th]

It's true, so you should mimic sort of such dude and you will actually attract women. Also, you could start with friendship (not "frendzone" run away from this abuse) to get comfortable being around females and after that it's matter of time when you get one.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@isadora-6th huh?

[@isadora-6th]

@@longiusaescius2537 well, using this strat i'm having wife now (im 24, 3 years in relationship)

[@lightworker2956]

@@eggheadusa It USED to be about confidence and vibes. Modern young women, who grew up with social media and internet dating, are more looks-oriented. Sure confidence and vibes help, but the hot guy without confidence will beat the average dude with confidence.

[@Thedeepesttruth]

As a gay man in his 40, the best advice is give to a straight young man is that If you want one night stands, go to bars and clubs. I’d even look at popular gay male clubs that are trendy because a lot of their friends who are straight girls will go with them. But if you want a wife get involved with your local churches or community centers. The youth groups and camps. You could volunteer or chaperone. But you will never ever win the lottery if you never buy a ticket! You can’t soar with the eagles if you’re flying with the buzzards. You have to go socialize and be around women to actually meet one! Not stay in your house all the time, not being on your phone all the time or on your computer or playing video games. Simple truth.

[@grit1]

Just go in there, shake the managers hand, and ask for a job

[@FalkFlak]

You're right but it's still a platitude. "If you want a relationship be that person who gets relationships." If you're depressed, have you tried not being depressed? If you want a university degree, be intelligent and offer scientifically relevant insights. yeah, right.

[@dafunkmonster]

@@FalkFlak Fine, stay where you are. Don't change. Stay miserable.

[@FalkFlak]

I'm not miserable. But we could just say "If you want something, you need to work for it". That's really all it boils down to and has nothing to do with relationships. But what we WANT and don't want in our life is exceptionally hard to figure out. And then you have to decide if the time and energy to invest is really worth it. Do I really want to be an Astronaut or can I also live a happy life down here? These are the kind of decisions to be considered. And if it's not possible we have to accept it the way it is. You can't run a marathon in a wheelchair and that's ok. But don't assume everyone is the same. Trying to be like everyone else or let others tell you whom and how many persons you have to f*** is exactly the way to get miserable.

[@Thedeepesttruth]

@@FalkFlak I mean, yeah, I guess. But that doesn’t negate the validity of it. Their Platitudes for a reason. That is kinda like people who ask why you aren’t doing something that needs to get done so you tell them why, and they say it’s excuses!!…. Well, technically, yes! But you asked, and they are still part of the reason. The simple reality is we as a technological society with social media and a robust digital world have abandoned almost wholesale the real world of interaction and relations for a facsimile of one. For a fake and curated digital world that gives them all the ID feeding and instant gratification you could want. So people are more cut off and lonely then ever. Do you know why? Because nothing can replace the real natural version. People aren’t looking up from their phones, their not leaving their house, their not making new friends, and they are not actually engaging in real physical and verbal relationships with anyone. It’s all digital, and it’s become our Devil. It’s become a vice, an addiction, an impediment to normal functioning. So when this generation ask why they feel this way and why they do not have what previous generations have I tell them. It’s the simple fact that they are not doing a single thing to facilitate the things they need to be a functioning member of society and a relationship. Any relationship. If people barely talk and interact with real people they are gonna feel lonely and isolated. If you never go out to social places then you will never meet new people. Your new potential wives or girlfriends or even just regular friends are not gonna be found on Twitter or X, KZbin, Twitch, Netflix, or Instagram. They can only be found and the relations maintained out in the Real World, Living Real Life, Being around Real People. We all need to put down our phones and the internet and tough grass.

[@skyisthelimitreadyornotfor2]

Hoe_Math, an aptly named channel will solve some of those problems.

[@isadora-6th]

304_math is impressively good

[@matziviri2866]

@johnsampson6387 He does, but they're kinda basic: get rich, get funny, get hot, etc etc

[@ApesAmongUs]

@@matziviri2866 Yea, his advice is at the same level as you would get from any gym bro dating coach, but it sounds better because he has a noticeably higher IQ and can enunciate his words.

[@Josh-sz8ip]

​@@matziviri2866so the same solutions as incels

[@Deadnickers]

@@Josh-sz8ipok🤡

[@infamouscheesecake2232]

No such thing as an incel, its nothing more than a shaming term to put men down

[@NostraDavid2]

Though I can agree on how it's being used.

[@vp7219]

Nah there’s definitely some incels out there but the term is applied to way more men than it should be in order to shame them.

[@infamouscheesecake2232]

@vp7219 The reason I disagree is because there is always the method of paying for it. It might not be preferable, but the option is always there.

[@lilporky8565]

@@infamouscheesecake2232 If you don't live in Europe then a lot of the time you can't "just pay for it". Illegality complicates that a lot.

[@infamouscheesecake2232]

@lilporky8565 True, the legality of it can make it more complicated in certain areas. However, it is not impossible seeing you can still travel etc. It just comes down to how much effort and/or money you're willing to put in to get it.

[@AkiRa22084]

50 percent divorce rate is not acceptable.

[@otismcfeely6401]

That study was 5 years ago, it's way worse now.

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

Also it was worse than the study implies. Buhrooooootal.

[@cosmiclaw1280]

This guy hit the nail on the head. Things have always been like this, nothing new, nothing has changed, except for the fact that the lights were turned on, and now we see things we havnt before, and this is the aftermath of people seeing those things.

[@firstlast8258]

Change is the only constant

[@carolinerondon8934]

American women are def hard to be around, and I say this as a non american, I am from Colombia. If you are just an average looking guy, with okay life, it might be an idea to travel a little and see what is out there. It is women who are easier to be around, sweet, family oriented. And I am not 100% blaming US women for this development, it is also your culture that has done that.

[@chasejackson7248]

I've watched a lot of married at first sight type shows that foreign women aren't much better.

[@zzz66688]

Anglo women more like*, US, UK, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia.

[@lightworker2956]

Non-US women are indeed easier to date and be around, but it's not a magic pill. Plenty of foreign women are still materialistic or hypergamous.

[@firstlast8258]

Gawd bless Murica 🤓 🖕

[@SSEi02]

@@chasejackson7248”Married at first” type shows have a goal to get good ratings and make money not put compatible couples together. Reality TV is not a good barometer for anything.

[@mrwayne8864]

I am an incel and I have nothing to offer. There might be a lot of fish in the ocean but if you have no bait, you will still catch nothing.

[@IgnoreMeImWrong]

The question is "why" don't you have anything to offer?

[@Hey_Mister]

@@IgnoreMeImWrong Offer to the leeches? Nah.

[@mrwayne8864]

@IgnoreMeImWrong That's just how it is. I am not very successful in life in general. I am getting old ,tired and I get anxious easily.

[@tylern.4230]

​@@IgnoreMeImWrong because it is much harder today as a young man to succeed in anything

[@Dynioglowy1986]

they sharing same chad and cant find good men ....

[@garenthal9638]

Then put the work in and be a chad

[@RDV333]

@@garenthal9638 Weird thing is the double standard, personally: men have to work for dates, women get to just exist. That's a bizarre mindset that is just accepted for no reason.

[@arcaneterror7]

They sure as hell aren’t gonna find a good man in you

[@MeanBeanComedy]

​@@RDV333 It's only like that because "dates" aren't supposed to be a thing. We live in a fake world where we pretend men and women are equal, but since they're not, we still can't treat them equally.

[@df8340]

@@RDV333 sounds like a you problem, fishing ain’t hard.

[@bos_outsider]

Most man out there they want loving healthy relationship, getting laid is bonus. In our current age 20 year old male is fighting against +30 years old guys that have houses, cars and money like it's doomed from start so what do you do when you know you will lose? You don't play the game.

[@Redcloudsrocks]

this guy thinks most 30 year olds have money and houses? try 50

[@rodrigofreitas3288]

But most of the 30+ already have gfs.

[@paulcarmi8130]

Lmao you think us thirtysomethings have it so much better than you? Most of us have student debt, I'm one of the lucky few who said screw college because debt is lame.

[@Tyronom]

Now you need to be 40+ to have that ;/

[@firstlast8258]

Money is at the job if you are able bodied

[@marineboy1964]

The interweb has a lot to answer for The human race is at risk here

[@NuchiAsaki]

It's not a problem.

[@Syncrotron9001]

ITs not happening in the southern hemisphere

[@jessbellis9510]

Bahaha there's literally 8 billion people.

[@lorecow88]

@jessbellis9510 For now, they're working on it.

[@lightworker2956]

I think the problem is specifically social media and internet dating. I don't think that your average internet site is the problem.

[@Smilomaniac]

In this discussion the primary reason is that women have too high expectations and while they're supposed to have that, it also needs to be reigned in culturally, which is what religion did, not by lowering the standards, but by focusing them on what's important and not superficial. If you disagree with this, you're beyond help by the way. The other part of it is that because boys and men lose hope, they stop improving themselves and perpetuate that cycle, but even if they did improve through incredibly hard and consistent work, they still don't stand a chance with very many women and the amount of reasonable ones still have their pick. Point being, you have to fix women to fix men and if you've got a higher than two digits, you get how that's going to require a lot of things to change, or rather revert.

[@TurboFist0]

Facts, but people are too afraid to say this. Truth is that if women in society are left to their own devices, then you get this ridiculous situation we're in now where even decent guys who are fit with good careers can't get a date these days.

[@titanmasterxd6329]

I’m a 20 year old dude and while I’ve definitely wanted a relationship I’m not upset that I’m not one. I believe that if I’m going to date someone they should be THE one. I don’t want to ruin my first relationship on someone that’s going to forget me the next morning or only wants me for something be it money, or to be a dummy to vent to. I want someone who is looking for exactly what I’m looking for, a life partner, not an accomplice.

[@Finkaisar]

I only hear talk about men being picky about looks, what about being picky about personality

[@jesh879]

I refuse to date a girl who can't be genuinely empathetic and own up to her mistakes, then work on fixing them. Yes, I know I'm dying alone.

[@letopizdetz]

@@jesh879 I'm sure you're genuinely empathetic and own up to your mistakes :))

[@ttrev007]

being a virgin does not mean incell. just because you are celibate does not mean it is involuntary.

[@ofrenic]

Let's be real though. 90% of the time, they're not waiting for marriage. It's involuntary.

[@Josh-sz8ip]

Bro thinks most men are saying no to poosey

[@Dregomz02]

Big cope not a single man want to stay virgin forever

[@VerbeekTruther]

Copium at its finest

[@SobBaget602]

@@Josh-sz8ip People with actual self control are lmao.

[@RomanoCountyFair]

"Any girl that uses the word "situationship is a 304. Thats just the way it is" - Asmongold. F'ing Bars 😤🔥

[@dudeguyrockfan]

That "dating therapist" is how women see men despite men really doing nothing.

[@johnhawthorn5393]

Been divorced for about 7 years and been single for 6. vvomen and relationships aren't all they're cracked up to be.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Im in my 20s and literally all my male friends are virgins myself included.

[@keifer7813]

Not every incel blames the world. For me, I've just accepted I'm not that guy. I'm ugly af AND got horrible social skills. It is what it is. Life has winners and losers. Can't all win

[@spammer5530]

There's ugly and awkward girls that also fell through the cracks but you don't acknowledge them do you?

[@Leo-fs2pm]

Let's go, Gerby getting the recognition he deserves. Bout to hear the 9/11 freestyles on this channel.

[@tylerreamer8292]

I am 29. College actually taught me that most women are never loyal in a relationship. But I tried multiple times to talk to 1. Its tiring. I dont get it

[@lightworker2956]

Women are incredibly hypergamous, and you're not a top tier guy (at least in their eyes). It's harsh, but it's that simple. Top tier guys have a really easy time finding a relationship and their woman will be loyal because he's a top tier guy. As for the other 90% of guys, they're sort of screwed. They might have a brief relationship or fling here and there, but on the whole, my heart goes out to them.

[@Adama.1]

@@lightworker2956 so 90% of men are doomed. That doesn't even statistically make any sense but ok. I'm black pilled as fuck but this is just an L take.

[@dafunkmonster]

"College actually taught me that most women are never loyal in a relationship." Stop conflating "most women" with "the loose women I chased at bars in college". They're not the same thing. "But I tried multiple times to talk to 1." How would you know most women aren't loyal just by trying to talk to some women?

[@tylerreamer8292]

@dafunkmonster once I tried to Date a girl in college. I entertained the thought. Well she told me her dad had cameras at her house and she didn't want me to take her on a date.

[@tylerreamer8292]

I told her no I would never do that unless we were together for a bit...so she made me a friendship bracelet and then I just threw it away and stopped talking to her

[@Redsnowman04]

It is important to know your own mistakes and improve yourself. But also, know that there is still a lot gas lighting in the “you’re an incel” part. People can try and do so much and still not get anywhere and when they finally complain, they get handed that title when the other half doesn’t know how hard they tried or don’t know their story. So I think it goes both ways.

[@f1am3bot]

My ex literally spent 2 out of 4 years convincing me we were soulmates, turned 21 and then spent the last 2 years lying cheating and destroying her own life and future. That stuff really hurt even if it wasnt my fault. If that was supposed to be my soulmate then im effed.

[@johnshi5439]

Btw, those are type of people asking for your assistance when shit gone south, while at the same time keep insulting you, remember that my friend.