THIS Is Why 80% Of Men Are Invisible | Asmongold Reacts

[@Bankai90]

A lot of men give up on life due to circumstances and not mental disorders. Twitter trying to hate on Dr. K for saying it's not just mental disorders, but men actually struggling alone is insane. Ironic how this proves his points even more

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

If a man can't face circumstances what a woman do !?

[@bobowon5450]

most people who have even mediocre lives have a hard time imagining someone whos life is legitimately just awful.

[@MrRafagigapr]

life is hard , we can no longer provide for a partner as easy as generations before could , we blame women for only wanting 6 figure partners , but sadly to have a wife and 2/3 children to be able to at replacement levels , you need to earn 6 figures at least .

[@whenpigsfly8178]

Swings and roundabouts to a degree. There have been some pretty hard generations, e.g. at least we aren't slaving in the fields for the most part, for now?, and half or more of men never reproduced, anyway.

[@hunterculpepper1973]

It's Twitter every single thing is bad to them

[@JBone_Capone]

I actually googled the “my partner’s yelling at me” bit. It’s not that anything doesn’t come up for men when their partner’s yelling at them. Google just assumes the man’s at fault, and provides info that’s basically like “have you tried not being a terrible person?” Hahaha. It’s comical. Like google assumes there could never be an instance in which a man’s being verbally abused/threatened by their partner where he’s not responsible for it. Why are men so lonely, and killing themselves again?

[@slothvr5752]

It's really sad and it's under the rug right now, nobody cares.

[@JBone_Capone]

@@slothvr5752 Well, I want to be clear. I think most men, when they stop to think about the people that are actually active in their lives. Friends, family etc. and not focused on what our culture/society/online discourse is saying about this issue? They’d find most people DO care if they were to tell them their partner is verbally abusive/threatening them. Even though this may be true generally speaking? What may be true generally is often untrue when applied to the individual. So, like this guy’s talking about, try not to internalize the external information, and try to look around you. If you do, I think a lot of men would realize they genuinely do have a support system immediately around them.

[@Max_Ohm]

Insane people have taken over our methods of communication

[@ravensblade]

There is problem of modern psychiatry that it's methods are centered on women. Men and woman in general deal differently with emotions and communicate them differently. The way group of friends that are men talk to each other is different then that of group of friend that are women. And there is stupid idea that woman way is superior, and should be forced on men. Neither of them is actually superior in general, both have good and bad things about them. Problem is that women way of talking about their emotions and feelings is easier for psychiatrist and their current day methodology. That's where this idiotic pressure of "emotional men" and "talking about your feelings" comes from. Many good psychiatrist pointed that it's wrong and methodology should match the patient and not forcing patient to match methodology. But it's hard when modern political correctness wants us to believe that women and men are identical in every aspect.

[@lel90]

Dr. K killed Reckful.

[@Ads-C]

One thing that bothers me about the way we discuss the suicide epidemic is how we say that men are 3x more likely to "kill themselves". We're (semantically) putting the effect before the cause. In reality, men are actually 3x more likely to be treated so poorly by life that death is becomes a rational alternative.

[@TheTrickyTwix]

Facts, if the roles were reversed I feel that society wouldn’t partake in all the victim blaming that comes with men’s suicide

[@alanm6o9]

Facts

[@40sUphillBothWays]

Yeah. They've presented it more as an alternative, unintentional or not.

[@bisky-z3s]

Survived a Georgenotfound situation, 3 years later still have nightmares of what happened to me over a simple lie that was openly admitted to being a lie. I've spent my whole life helping people avoid that option (4am house visits, letting people stay at my house, etc). It was ironic how none of it mattered because of a rumor.

[@iamaronman]

I think some stats are up to 5 times more likely now

[@TheThomasBarry]

13:30 I'm in my 30's and I remember when I was maybe 7 I woke up feeling sick and went to tell my mom. I was scared and really didn't want to throw up. She was neglectful and abusive, but I really just wanted someone to comfort me. She grabbed me by my throat and drug me into the bathroom while telling me she wished she wasn't a mother. She forced my head into the toilet and was screaming at me that if I was going to throw up then I needed to hurry up. It's not really what Dr. K is talking about, but the core idea of a kid going to their protector for help and being shut down for that is astoundingly traumatic.

[@MessMerOfAMan]

has your relationship with your mom gotten any better? Hopefully you now understand why she was/is so horrible

[@somethinderpsterious]

waHmeN aRe nuRtUrinG

[@chahinebourenane6291]

I emphasize with you, sorry that it happened to you, i have that kind of experience with parents and adults as well.

[@denkerbosu3551]

A reminder that, when killed by a parent, the mothers are the ones mostly killing their children.

[@Phoenix0F8]

Jesus I'm so sorry to hear that. No child should have to go through that.

[@Karathos]

His words about being connected to a tribe or a group completely ties in with suicide among military veterans. I've spoken to a lot of guys from different countries, who've said they're getting treatment for PTSD or have symptoms of it. They generally don't feel traumatized by getting shot at, shooting other people, or seeing dead bodies, or anything like that. What they feel is like they're completely alone when they return "to the world" as it's called. You've spent months, years of your life within a small tribe where EVERYONE is prepared to take life or give their own life to protect each other... and bam, suddenly you're kicked out, you don't know anyone, no one gives a shit about you, and someone on social media calls you a monster. Imagine the shock of just suddenly being dropped back into a world you don't know basically ANYTHING about. In my completely unscientific personal experience: The most common form of psychological trauma after active military service is a lost sense of self and belonging. I am not surprised that trauma exists for men in general in the form Dr. K is talking about.

[@meatybtz]

No, you are correct. You see, our modern world, is fake. It's like a theme park. When you go to war, you get to see "the desert of the REAL WORLD". So when you come home from that. When you come back to the 'theme park life' you see it for what it is, and once you are woken up, you can't go back to sleep. You see it's insanity all around you. You see it's petty, shallow, gilded, nature for what it is. You see your governments for what they really are. Then everyone around you says "something is wrong with YOU", when the reality is, there is something very wrong with society and you are just "awake" from the pod. So imagine the psychological impact of going from a Disney Theme Park life, to the harsh reality of war, then tossed back w/o any support, into the theme park, but now you see it for what it is and everyone around you gas-lights you because they can't see it. You can. So you must be the problem, you must be the "odd one". But it's literally gaslighting, even if not intentional. Some people can never re-acculturate, there were more than a few mercs over the centuries that could never "come home" because they knew they couldn't go back to that "asleep" life. So they just traveled from war to war to war. The question that we should be asking is: what is so wrong with our society that people who go and experience the reality of life on earth come home and find our society to be "alien". Not, what is wrong with these people who woke up and saw the truth of reality and now don't want to play out our little fantasy.

[@Chayliss]

Simply retiring can Do that also. Even with a pension and ss and ability to work for themselves and be totally well off.

[@Karathos]

@@Chayliss Oh definitely, I can imagine that. But being discharged post-deployment is probably way more sort of sudden. Retiring you generally get to plan a little more I think.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

you say that like people join the military as kids?

[@Alpha-numeric-lifestyle]

You are very correct.

[@splinterborn]

I got to work depressed, come home depressed, go to sleep depressed. Repeat for eternity. I love my life. Working for nothing. Money doesnt make me happy and i will never afford a decent house or land anyway. Probably wont get a pension. Never had a relationship, no friends, estranged family. Life is utterly pointless existance.

[@nickf2657]

You should try Church. Try volunteering and helping people. If you focus on the bad, life will be bad. Aim at something higher, your spirits will be lifted. I've been there. I wish you luck.

[@VDViktor]

@@nickf2657the guy says he’s struggling and your best advice is for him to become delusional and believe in fairy tales? K thanks

[@splinterborn]

@@nickf2657 thanks, i like helping people and giving gifts, favours. But i dont get anything in return, my own grandparents were never there and never cared or even asked how im doing. Im 28. I try help my own family, spent weeks painting for my grandmother and i never get a text or phonecall saying thanks or asking how i am. I have hepled many old people with shopping, crossing road all that stuff that everyone should do regardless. Maybe i should just disown my family and take your advice. Thanks for replying.

[@infinity_shades1687]

I agree… church is really something else. It’s scary reading what you’re going through because that was literally me 3 years ago. Now I’m getting engaged. Church changed absolutely everything for me. The community is so kind and welcoming and I found friends through it and eventually met my fiancé. Take on more responsibilities is the way out of depression. Make sure it’s healthy responsibilities such as family and self help stuff.

[@splinterborn]

@@infinity_shades1687 thanks, i will try. Appreciate the advice.

[@LethalShadow]

I've been told by a ex, years after the fact, that a single look I gave her for mere seconds made her scared of me forever. I never yelled, never even raised my voice. I just felt angry and betrayed and contained it, and removed myself from the situation. What that taught me is that not only are we not allowed to act on our anger in any way, we're not even allowed to simply feel it. I have never so much as raised my voice at this woman, much less ever harmed her, and still a simple look of anger is apparently too much. Society treats men like we're all psychotic monsters just waiting to be uncovered. You're presumed guilty until proven innocent, which only happens once you pass away with a clean record.

[@Mirekluk]

Why not prove them wrong right now eh?

[@geo5295]

thats on her that she didnt communicate her issues/feelings at the time and acted like a scared child. Thats not a normal response from most women.

[@SneedRemembrancer]

Beware of my stare It’s known to cause permanent wear and tear

[@kuratse205]

It's mainly an issue of expectations. If you look at other animals, there is a hierarchy of dominance. The dominant group will always be stronger and more feared. But in our society, we hide that behind the need to be equal and similar. I really dont have a solution to this; I doubt anybody has. It's just a fact of social animals.

[@Mirekluk]

@@kuratse205 more then need to be equal and similar I'd argue it's need for tribe to grow. Which leads to the same result : To control bigger tribe, you need to establish some level of equality and homogenity, otherwise tribe collapses on itself.

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

"Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something" ― Chris Rock

[@TrthBHld]

"That's a bad programming. So fix the program to work right." -- Me

[@dr.furrytoe443]

Not by his mother.. She loves unconditionally

[@scooter_b123]

​Maybe in your case. Ive seen moms that just give their children away. ​@@dr.furrytoe443

[@christerjakobsen8107]

@@dr.furrytoe443 Only because she knows with certainty that her children are hers. Even then, some mothers are monsters.

[@darkspinspard4258]

​@christerjakobsen8107 that and there is still the component of expecting that the kid will become a man with resources that she can expect to be entitled to... as well as having his support in the future. The more I think about unconditional love, the less plausible it sounds and the more it feels like, instead, everything is conditional, just that some relationships are way less conditional than others.

[@Rangerthehound]

“If a guy gets mad at a girl for cheating then he’s the reason.” is such a crappy take. Why don’t you grow up and end the relationship before going out with other people, or discuss the issues and try to fix it if you don’t want to end the relationship. You know communicate.

[@xAudiolith]

It's an expected take from a group of people who are not incentivised by society to take responsibility.

[@kjracz15]

Apparently, it's less effort to start/hide an infidelity and wait for your partner to find out rather than just to say "Let's break up ".

[@radiantveggies9348]

It's similar to how we encourage women to do what's best for them regardless of how it affects her family but we don't encourage men to do the same

[@40sUphillBothWays]

When we ignore such bs and don't argue our case, and instead ask ourselves "is this true?" "does it matter?" "am I a source of grief?" and such, and our assessment is within our assessment's yes range, then we really ignore such bs and don't argue our case. In a relationship check off expectations at the start and tell the woman to do the same. Tell her not to wait til later when time and energy have been heavily invested. Really though, do whatever you want--just don't be a source of grief and never apologize (or not). See what I'm posting?

[@pressb]

"Wahmyn are good at communication" is such a lie amongst lies.

[@primozimo3041]

Someone once said I can't remember who. "Extroverts start off their day with an empty coin pouch. And every time they have an interaction with someone they add a coin to that pouch. Introverts start off their day with a certain amount of coins in their pouch. And every time they have an interaction with someone they lose a coin from their pouch."

[@pedromonteiro1196]

Aka social battery

[@GrogGurgler]

Sounds like extroverts steal coins from introverts

[@voinea12]

the sims

[@smileygladhands]

That's actually very on point. I'm an introvert (grew up an only child with only a few friends). So I can only have so many interactions with others before I start climbing back in my shell. I'm actually starting therapy next week to see how crazy I am and if there's anything I could do to get better that actually works for me.

[@dorayaki5494]

@@smileygladhands I'm an introvert and love being one. I love interacting with my closest friends and they know that I'm just like this. 2 of them are extroverts and one is an introvert like me. When I'm alone I usually stay in my house and either play games or watch shows. When I feel like going outside I take my 600RR for a ride to the beach or the nearby mountain roads with just me and my thoughts. When someone starts talking to me and i'm not in the mood I do tell them that I got to go or act as if I want to rush to the end of the conversation. Some of those people will dislike that but i've learnt that I actually don't give a duck about it. There's billions in this world and you are going to what to spend your time with those that are worth it. I'm a naturally selfish person and by also being an introvert it means that I'll spend my life doing what I wanna do and not what others want me to do. I've been living my life freely ever since my teenage years and honestly... back then I'd probably feel bad for not having as many friends than most other guys but now..? Nah... All this to say that.... nah bro/brahette... you are not crazy. Just.. different.

[@Tigerblade11238]

"The more I'm around other people the more I hate other people" you are not alone, my guy.

[@BasedBill]

"I hate most people... At times, I look at people, and see nothing worth liking... I've built up my hatreds over the years, little by little." - Daniel Plainview

[@ChiefGore429]

Being around people and being around friends are two different things. It's weird that he refers to his friends and family as "people"... that's how I refer to co-workers and what not. Not my loved ones. That's more than extrovert it seems

[@Vaguer_Weevil]

​@@ChiefGore429 It depends what kind of bonds you have with them. I don't hate the ones I live with but I stopped forcing myself to spend more time with them as they'd always nagged about. The less I dealt with them the better my mental health got, and the less there's been conflicts. Especially since my thoughts and opinions are often shot down by them. They think that just because I don't say much, that I don't think much either. That they know better than me by default, ignoring my advice as they make the same mistakes countless times. They drove me insane being around them, and nowadays I scare myself thinking back on the dark thoughts I used to have at the time.

[@LawfulBased]

Wanna hear something horrible relating to other people? Then strap yourself in. I am in my late 30's now and had a sudden, shocking but very sober and sudden realization. Since I was going to school and entered public life and society so to say, I was disappointed by people around every 3 years. But not _"normal disappointments"._ They somehow managed to break through the ceiling of what I thought was realistically possible regarding either stupidity, viscious evil, cowardly defeatism towards evil and simple how fake they are in general. Virtues who crumble at the slightest sign of pressure. Choosing utterly foolishly even when in realization of the odds. Apathy towards the true scources of problems in the world. But a hell lot of attitude towards *ANYONE* who would dare point it out. 😒 Its just crazy. Disappointed for about every consecutive 3 years of my life in ways I thought were impossible.

[@Ni-boo]

​@@LawfulBased there's a quote I think fits very well "Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realise half of them are stupider than that." The average intelligence level is only so high because of the smartest individuals bringing the percentage up.

[@Volron265]

It's such a disgusting dichotomy. "Why should I care about your problems? You're a nobody." "Why should I care about your problems? You're successful."

[@DarthWader-u1g]

You want the answer?

[@okayimsorry5473]

Also qualifies as a double bind. Or a set of choices where neither of the choices offered are beneficial to the individual to whom they're being offered.

[@jackoverton8343]

​@@DarthWader-u1gmeditations by marcus aurelius.

[@christerjakobsen8107]

@@jackoverton8343 Based stoic-pilled.

[@env0x]

most people are evil because they don't see a point to being kind to others. if you see a point, you will act accordingly. evaluate your belief systems.

[@calimantis]

The worst part about all of this is that no matter what anyone says, feels, or does, this will all be forgotten in a week and men will continue to be blamed for everything

[@roky7772]

based nep

[@anonyghost7422]

Change your perspective. The world can be what it is, but when YOU give those assumptions/ views/ words value…. Then it becomes a reality. It may seem impossible to see the light when you are in a dark place, but there is something you can always do to inch towards it. Trust the process.

[@tahirravat131]

Hey Trump became president, men won't continue to be blamed for much longer. Normal social order coming back.

[@DavinCarsom-y7c]

Ok sure but... economic ruin and world war ain't worth it, get a grip, we've elected a liar, a fraud, and a felon

[@LoveOfLam]

@@tahirravat131we prezden now bois

[@deuchebaggins8660]

I'm a 44 year old man with degenerative back problems that are compounding other issues, been out of work for 3 years, can't do most things I used to enjoy, can't work, can't afford to go to the doctor, I'm in constant pain every day, my wife hates me now for it and takes every chance she gets to be a cunt, I'm headed for a nasty divorce, and probably will end up jailed for not being able to pay child support. Tried getting on disability, try that shit being a middle aged white guy. I'm so sick of hearing people say things will be ok, they have no clue what it's like being in my shoes. The only way forward I can see is to just keep going until I can't anymore. Nobody cares about what men go through, especially women. We're expected to provide until we die, and when we can't we get thrown under the bus. I've known several men over the years that "checked out", I now fully understand why. It really disgusts me that billions of our tax dollars are given to countries that hate us but the people at home can't get help when they need it.

[@StreetForged]

I had a bowel resection at 16 and broke my back at 17 and have to go to the doctor's a few times a month. It took 8 years for me to get on disability and many attempts and appeals. My ex girlfriend had no medications and applied because of depression and anxiety and she got it right away.

[@StreetForged]

@@WardenWyrd I definitely was left with the impression that our gender was the defining reason why she was offered more assistance than me. The medical industry, lack of workers rights, lack of government support, and the perception of people on disability has essentially destroyed my future. Was in the gifted program, made deans list in college, doesn't matter when you're sick all the time and can't work a consistent job, and your lifetime treatments cost 8k every 6 weeks not including the several other medications I need for related immune issues. Doomed to medicaid and poverty forever and treated like a second class citizen by people dumber than me with far less skills.

[@StreetForged]

@@WardenWyrd I can see why they seem more deserving on a surface level just due to historical reasons and the way women are perceived as a whole by society, but it obviously isn't rooted in logic at this point now that the tables have turned in education and finances for the younger generations, as well as legal rights and privileges being equal now or skewed towards women, ie sentencing disparities, custody, diversity quotas, scholarships etc. I don't want to be a part of the animosity towards one another, as I don't think it's solving anything, but rather making us dehumanize each other and leading to loneliness and loss of purpose. I really do hope that empathy for men reaches the mainstream and people can begin to use their brains rather than regurgitate buzzwords and resort to ad hominems. It's crazy to see how little resources or thought is given towards our struggles and how slowly the ball seems to move. It's always considered a zero sum game, where admitting men have problems somehow trivializes the issues women face. It doesn't seem like rocket science to me that we both need each other and are worse off otherwise. I accomplish far more as a single person, but I do find that there's a major piece missing and all the progress really begins to feel meaningless. I never really suffered from a power imbalance or toxicity in my relationships and was the one to end them all, but I had to in the aforementioned relationship, as she cheated on me because I didn't have the money to really move forward and she viewed me as a liability. Modern life is sad and void of fulfillment for many of us.

[@middlesiderrider]

I've had a similar experience in my life. My severe lower back issues started in my early twenties, probably because of a childhood of hard labor including working on the fields baling hay and picking up rocks, then starting construction work at age fifteen. Doctors didn't believe I was even hurt, and when I finally got proof in the form of MRI results they didn't care. Meanwhile my sister would complain of pain (with nothing actually wrong with her) and doctors would prescribe her whatever she wanted. I dealt with seventeen years of increasing chronic pain until I finally started to get useful treatment. See if you can get some help with insurance costs. If you aren't able to work and are therefore considered low-income there are programs available to you. It's a pain in the neck and you might have to apply multiple times but hopefully you'll eventually succeed. My life still sucks but at least I'm doing a bit better. Too bad my best years were wasted because nobody cares about a man's pain.

[@life_kluda]

Ronnie Cole still lifts. You gotta do something.

[@scubarubanzaii]

17:52 - My ex (of nearly 4 years) didn’t treat me the best. I tried to talk to her about it. I was told that I’m not allowed to express how I feel when I’m upset. I broke up with her that night. It legitimately crushed my soul to hear that, and I’m so glad I left. I’m married to the best woman I can be married to now.

[@mybirdsareangry1]

Good on ya brother

[@restless8638]

Happy for you mate

[@super-engineer8437]

Hold this W, King 🤴

[@joaotafner6971]

How did you met your wife, how many people did you met until find her, sorry to ask, just want to know whats the differemce to find a decent person, if you could share the knowlegde with the brothers

[@saico4307]

best decision ever my man

[@sinfinity383]

I had a girlfriend for over 2 and a half years. I've never loved anyone else as much as her throughout my life. Therefore she basically knew everything about me. She said and acted sometimes very weird, like she enjoyed making me mad, playing these little "games", you know. Ofc I was the evil one whenever I've pointed this out, and I had to apologize for pointing out these things. She was literally unable to take any responsibility, she even admitted it like two times. At the end I had enough, I wanted to break up. Instead she doesn't even wanted to meet me in person, she wanted to broke up via messenger, imagine that. A 26 years old adult... After that she constantly mocked me, how pathetic I'm, for this and that. She did this for a few weeks than I ignored her. Since I wanted to part peacefully, not this way. Months later she wrote via her mother's Facebook/messenger, that she wanted ME to forgive. Imagine that. Later that year she still called me right before Christmas with the same goal. After this experience I knew what "Love is blind" truly meant... We must stay strong brothers!

[@mizeria777]

People in their 20’s mostly are lost. Sometimes it goes till 30-35, only then when it hits a person when they realize they’re old enough not to go back in time and have to straighten themselves up so good thing you left her and sounds like a manipulative narcissist

[@aloncharger-x9936]

I'm 26 now, dated a girl and had same experience. What you did good was broke up first and cut that line. I tried to get things back and change myself-lost self respect and went through long way of loosing myself with nothing at the end.

[@mr.silver5476]

People just need to realize that being an introvert is a legit personality type and not a character flaw. I have to constantly defend myself to my family who are like "why don't you go out to parties and try to meet people" and im like "because i don't want to...i don't like parties...or the people that go to them for that matter...they are too loud."

[@juankeyblademaster]

Learning a hobby more on the creative art side might deter any jufgement that something is wrong with you. Learning to paint ir play an instrument can justify easily why you like to being alone and be left alone since people don't have the patience to better themselves like that

[@awlore]

i feel you, it wasnt until my late 20s, early 30s that my family finally gave up on saying such to me and accepted im not socially outgoing

[@telmobrito519]

@@polluxe8917 dear other human, if you look outside you can see many people that are all different in some way, would it make you explode to understand that people can have that type of difference regarding how sociable they are and want to be. "it's just that as a species, humans are social" as a species, humans have evolved to be sociable in *SMALL* groups and clans not in towns and gigantic parties, you personally also like those things, many prefer 1-5 people as an entourage to massive crowds, Just accept that some people are different.

[@TheRealBrillski]

@@telmobrito519 Get help

[@mr.silver5476]

@@polluxe8917 that's where you confuse being an introvert and being anti social. I am do perfectly fine in social situations, it's just the type of social situations that are different. I don't like noise due to autism, and enjoy creative endeavors by myself or with one or two other close friends. Maybe it also plays a wider part in my overall introverted nature, who knows? However, the fact remains that i much prefer hanging out playing games/watching shows with 1 to a few friends over going to large, crowded, chaotic gatherings as i find them exhausting. I went to a concert once and slept for the whole next day after, and i didn't drink a drop.

[@Kepesk]

"We dont allow them to suffer..." Which, according to Niezche, means we can't express our power and can't gain more, cause confronting suffering is the only way to grow personal strength. This hits deep.

[@aisanovac3801]

To me, it’s more like “we don’t allow them to show suffering.” Internalization of emotions to power self awareness and understanding this dark truth is staring into the abyss and find comfort.

[@xAudiolith]

@@aisanovac3801 yeah we leave the processing of emotions to a potentially flawed internal monologue. It's a classic downward spiral but we can of course just do societal windowdressing until we run into some really really big problems...

[@logmart8113]

They are the one can and will make us suffer. That's it. No way back. Most didn't realise till they experience for period of time.

[@Toerworth]

When Dr Peterson got emotional and cried on yt, he got ridiculed by H3H3, the supposed democrats who say men should be able to cry

[@vercingetorix5708]

I mean Jordan Peterson is ridiculous. He will go on about how he has never been happier or healthier and then immediately start weeping.

[@Toerworth]

@@vercingetorix5708 what’s wrong with that? Men can’t be emotional after all?

[@Sweenus987]

@@vercingetorix5708 You can be happy and still cry, especially when it's for other people which is pretty much the case with Peterson

[@TomDom888]

Everyone knows h3 is a joke now

[@whoisgtsdk]

​@@vercingetorix5708🤡

[@karenhaggard7094]

Im such a mega introvert. I have worked from home for 12 yrs in corporate settings (just got lucky that way) The few times I had to go to the HQ in Portland was literal hell for me. I saw my office coworkers in the open office plan (whoever came up with that should be guillotined) and knew that if I was local there is no way I would have my job. I was fine running zoom meetings, training, hitting my goals ect remotely. THEN covid happened and they all had to WFH.... I saw so many co workers (extroverts) just fall apart... it was nuts! Huge Fan Asmon! Not sure how many 40 yr old female followers you have but Im guessing few lol.

[@furanduron4926]

Im so much of an introvert that I consider you an extrovert

[@your_neko]

I believe that's what people who ruin games and hobbies are actually trying to achieve. They want you to have no place to go where you feel welcome and not threatened.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

holy shit that's evil

[@Morfe02]

No sh1t Why a Canadá company writes like half of the games of PlayStation Conspiracy theory ?

[@Drathan311]

yes that's what they are trying to do

[@Jagent]

Happy people do not seek to tear down civilization

[@johnjackson9767]

Actually, yes.

[@dontmatter1424]

Every time I've expressed my emotions or shown weakness, I've been discarded by friends and girlfriends.

[@whenpigsfly8178]

Men have typically expected to be at least mostly stoic. Crying or expressing weakness or confusion tends to kill attraction.

[@warmcoffee69]

Don't confide in women. Your mother/grandmother may be an exception but even then I wouldn't recommend it. Confide in yourself, a male friend, or a pet, mate. Otherwise it we be held against you. Don't blame them. Life is just hard. Be strong.

[@noobehnoober3178]

showing any weakness to a woman = instant loss of respect

[@ivanaleksandartsanev1693]

​@@whenpigsfly8178 What works for me is that I try to rationalise everything that puts me down, I try to have an inner dialogue about why I feel this or why that thing or person made me mad. It works really well because having deep thoughts calms me down quickly.

[@MijoShrek]

Don't dehumanize this experience of your own life as you continue to learn and grow and expand your understanding in knowing who you who you are as a person. Some people are better at living with less money than others who have more of it. Because of the person they picked to share it with. Its immature and cringe to not be able to just live amongst people without feeling drained and see everyone else as some energy vampire. That lame, I had to grow out of that and work on my social skills to sharpen my abilities to engage with the world. And not allow others relationships and insecurities skew the reality of actually being in a fulfilling relationships.

[@justinh7560]

My 27/M cousin killed himself 3 weeks ago today. Got in an argument with his girlfriend, had a meltdown and shot himself while drunk. Still hurts he left us like that. I wish the world was better for everyone

[@fantomas4935]

I'm sorry that happened man, that's horrible. This is what I thought about when reading other comments here that said that self deletion is a valid choice. Willfully ignorant of what friends and family will feel and be left with. Stay strong man, I wish you the best.

[@justinh7560]

@@fantomas4935 Thanks. He was in the army and just got an apartment off base. Maybe he had a really stressful day of training or something and then the argument pushed him over the edge. But I agree, it gives us pain for a long time while he doesn’t have to deal with it. I also went and gave his girlfriend a hug at his funeral because I’m afraid it will scar her. It’s not her fault he did that. But life goes on. I just wish people could see past their short term problems and realize life gets better

[@fantomas4935]

@@justinh7560 I don't have any experience losing someone like that, but from what I read, a lot of the cases are just spontaneous decisions, but there are deeper issues that were brewing for a while and sometimes they will look for any reason to do it, such as a break-up, losing their job, etc. It's the straw that broke the camel's back. This is what many survivors claim, at least. Agree with you on the last part, it can always get better and it's almost never a valid choice. I have depression and anxiety, thought about it many times, but then I always came to the conclusion that I need to see this through, good or bad it's the only life I got and I have to make the best of it somehow. So whenever I get those thoughts now I treat them as spam, just dismiss them as nonsense.

[@macrohotline8834]

​@@justinh7560atleast he is free from all this bulshit now

[@Sadistic_Rage]

@@fantomas4935, I understand that you're trying to be helpful here, but this only further proves the overall point of this video. Men are always expected to care about everything and everyone except for themselves. "Willfully ignorant of what friends and family will feel and be left with." This ignores the pain that the man went through and places an expectation on him. You're basically declaring that he should always place others before himself. Living a life only for others often isn't a life worth living at all. That's something that men do every single day and none can do it forever. It's a battle of endurance. When discussing suicide, what matters is the person that killed themselves. What matters is why they did it. Suicide is a problem and prevention of it needs to be explored. This cannot be done if the effects of suicide on other people is given greater importance. The primary focus should be on the individual that killed themselves. If you tell a man that is struggling with suicidal thoughts to not kill themselves because it would hurt others, you're only going to reinforce their belief of isolation because such a comment tells them that they should only act for the sake of others and that their emotions are unimportant.

[@catoftruth1044]

i dont believe in calling someone a loser. "You Are Not a Failure Until You Start Blaming Others for Your Mistakes"

[@Kriegerdammerung]

I think he coins the word for talking in practical terms. He might even have told his patients, "I say I treat CEOs and for the rest of men I use the word 'losers' because there is not a handy word to describe the average man so perfectly". Hey, it's even a statement about the place men occupy in capitalism.

[@slumptydumpty3058]

"The more im around other people, the more i hate people," relateable. I need my alone time. If i dont have my alone time, i get so annoyed having to answer people, help them, etc. Like just let me be me for a while.

[@Jarredlol]

The problem with the world is that we have too many entitled takers and not enough givers. The few givers that give, end up getting taken from by the majority of slackers who refuse to put in some work. The quiet go unnoticed, the loud will cry and receive so long as there are good people in this world. We're protecting criminals and judging our saints, questioning our moral foundations even. Of course everyone has gone crazy. Of course your battery needs recharging. You're constantly being stolen from without thanks.

[@hybrid9mm]

I hate everyone equally but my tolerance varies depending on the person.

[@Ultrostre]

That’s a massive challenge for me right now as new father. My wife is ADHD, my first daughter shows all the signs of it, my second daughter is a very demanding baby, I work 19 out of 21 days cycles. I. JUST. NEVER. HAVE. TIME. By myself. I’m always in the daily routine, which is very much necessary, but there’s always a point where I turn bitter and angry, and my wife and I have big arguments. 36 years old, it’s starting to dawn on me that wanting to be alone is FINE! It’s perfectly normal and healthy, and we as a family are working torwards letting me have some down time, so I can be fully there for them afterwards. The denial of our very nature is so strong it feels like it goes against every social rules.

[@caliginousmoira8565]

i don't mind helping people.... i just don't like being around them.

[@STOPTHECLOWNS581]

Wow you sound great to be around 🙃

[@imjustadrummer]

the very nature of human interaction has been destroyed.

[@stronensycharte64]

The only people who still do it naturally at this point in america are the amish and the mormons. Im currently debating with myself on which to join.

[@thisisapc5676]

@@stronensycharte64 amish are chill

[@egonomics352]

@@stronensycharte64and Orthodox Christian parishes and monasteries

[@heronoverdose]

Yeah we dropped it, so are we gonna fix it, make something new or cry over the spill until we are dead.

[@WesternHypernormalization]

@@heronoverdose There is no fixing it so clearly the last one.

[@dznnah]

And people wonder why AI girlfriends are expected to be a billion dollar industry

[@kimsonrobinson3171]

*Trillion

[@GhostLyricist]

Infinite money glitch, they just keep paying. GG Onlyfans.

[@SirRivelion]

I can see a future, when 90+% of girls walk around with a Henry Cavillbot and guys with .

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

furry AI girlfriends? 🤨

[@WallinBallin]

@@SirRivelion I dont think thats likely to happen. Girls dont have the same "need" for an alternative as guys do. If you look to dating currently its women rejecting men and not for anything "better". Women just can live without the validation and attention they get from a partner, its men who desire and who arent having their desires met. So for guys there is a burning demand but women are doing fine currently without a substitute. It is going to cause alot of issues however

[@rasplez9889]

My biggest issue and why i struggled a lot and became incredibly insular and introverted at college and Uni was that when you do get stressed out or struggle with life or something in your personal life happens, people dont care because they have their own problems to deal with. The response is "get therapy" because its too much effort for them to sit down, open up, and talk about eachothers problems. Nobody knows or cares to talk anymore, and now dealing with negativity has become a professional business where you spend money to talk to a therapist when all you need is an ear to bend or a shoulder to lean on. The world has become so incredibly heavy upon people's shoulders that they cant bear the weight of just listening, appreciating, and understanding something from someone else's perspective. Even just making friends; this girl messaged me asking if she missed anything in class because she didn't turn up. I told her what she missed. Few days later, messaged her back to ask how she was doing. Ghosted. The next week, the teacher has a "quiet word" with me about me messaging this girl and how they didnt like it. For context, it was an art class mixed with photographers and i was the only guy, so i couldnt exactly pick or choose what gender i wanted my friends to be. But just because i was a guy, asking people in class how they are or trying to discuss assignments with them becomes "creepy". This isnt even school-school though, this is college and uni; we're between the ages of 18-22. Grown adults actually complaining about other grown adults, to grown adults. They will literally report yoy for anything. In another situation, this new romanian girl wanted help navigating the college (weren't even in the same class) so i helped as best i could. I wasnt interested in a friendship or getting too involved with them because i was busy with my own work, so we eventually stopped talking and I started ghosting them. Again, i get reported to student services (basically student HR) for upsetting this girl because i stopped talking to her. Theres me in this room with 3 other women from student services and safeguarding officers grilling me about this situation, nobody there to represent me or be on my side; hell, nobody else in that room was even remotely neutral. They were all firmly against me. I left that room, sat in the cafeteria, heart pumping with adrenaline ive never felt in my life, thinking of what to do with my life and how much i hated the world and everything in it, and how much i want to leave it. When someone ghosts me, im the bad guy. When i ghost someone, im still the bad guy. Thats when i just decided to stop trying to find a relationship in college and uni because the girls were all victimising narcissistic assholes who think a man asking how youre doing on your assignment is creepy and out to get you. You grow up in school seeing so many people you know in relationships, wishing you could experience it. Then when you become a fully grown adult, yoy still cant experience it. Seeking relationships with peers is a pretty normal and healthy thing to do, but the working environments or at least just mine as far as im aware for my time in college and uni is detrimental to the self esteem and confidence of a young man just trying to define themselves as they grow into adulthood. I did eventually find a relationship after finally giving up, but its a badge of embarrassment to say it has been my first and only relationship and im now 25 as of writing this. I dont hate women, but its the kind of experiences that can lead to men becoming incel gigachad coomers who follow musk, tate, and hate women. The loneliness of being 16-22 was honestly the worst years of my life, and i know for a fact that im not alone in that.

[@missperfectluxury7630]

Jesus sounds like alot of bad encounters with women but i promise u not all women think like this

[@LayDownAndRot]

Sheesh, a little Soviet Union. Everyone reporting everyone.

[@Valorantplayer2727]

​@@LayDownAndRothahaha fr bro

[@JKLZREFAN]

​@@missperfectluxury7630Not all, just 95%.

[@neverleverland5685]

"i feel the more i tell people the way i feel, the more they will realise im insane" this is top tier comedy

[@Mrmerlinman69]

as if everyone didnt know asmon is deeply unwell mentally. It's insane how in touch he is with so many things but not himself.

[@xAudiolith]

Comedy? That feels to real to laugh at damn 😅

[@danielantony1882]

@@xAudiolith My buddy is legit struggling to cope with life.

[@katarinadreams6955]

A common phrase I've used in awkward social interaction is "ignore me, I'm insane" but I don't actually want to be ignored. I want to feel supported, feel like I'm part of the group

[@troll_486]

"its funny because its true" ahh statement

[@karlvongazenberg8398]

28:50 Also boys are being stopped using their aggression BEFORE they learn how to scale it (it obviously must be controlled), resulting in a "nothing, nothing, nothing, KILLKILLKILL" response algorhytm. Learn to scale - warning, threat, threat and entering personal space, push in the chest.... and so on.

[@cokeweasel1064]

That's a very good point

[@zeeteepippi275]

@@cokeweasel1064 It doesn't help we tell women de-escalation is sexist. You tell men to just buckle the pressure until it pops, you should never discipline a woman. Then you tell women they can do whatever they want because everyone's out to get you.

[@kuratse205]

I agree, but this is only stuck emotionally. In practice, you can and will control your actions rationally and act accordingly... _until something goes wrong._ Yet at the point where it becomes a problem, you are unable to seek help and fix it because you will be seen as a threat and promptly eIiminated.

[@matt_9112]

That's a thing any form of "contact sport" (starting at soccer and basketball even, not even combat sports necessarily) teaches you really well.

[@Alessandrosaiyan]

That’s why monks isolate themselves and meditate. They don’t want to poison themselves and meditating they pass time within themselves. One could say “it’s egocentric” but in reality you simply learn how to deal with your humanity, therefore you now know how to deal with others. And you became much more humble, honest, kind and righteous.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

damn that sucks

[@smoothmarvingaming1309]

Isolation is half of depression so it's not a good idea unless you aren't depressed

[@Alessandrosaiyan]

@@smoothmarvingaming1309 no you isolate from useless thing and a noisy life.

[@lel90]

Dr. K killed Reckful.

[@LooneyTimes]

​@@lel90no reckful killed reckful

[@JohnHandle-]

I dislike the term incel. It devalues the cause of the issue in favor of labeling it instead.

[@bellcross9985]

Because it's used only a pejorative. are there guys that cannot get "laid"? of course they are. they have always been there. But calling a married man an "incel" because he disagrees with you is stupid.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

​@@bellcross9985i have heaed people calling me an incel. I have had 3 secual relationships by the age 1 of like... 20 or something , not even f*cking kidding, 1 girl and 2 guys, or rather, i was actually DATING them, but one after the other all broke my trust or cheated on me (guess who it was amontst these, you will never guess it), i am no incel, i am TIRED of peoples bullshit.

[@hxhdhhdjdjd8288]

​@@michelecastellotti9172 Bro, aint trying to be that guy but i cant read anything you said

[@sonnguyenvan1599]

@@hxhdhhdjdjd8288 Bots will do that to you.

[@corytomcany6027]

Sounds like something an incel would think.

[@iwannadie9031]

Bro, I'm so broke I can't afford depression.

[@larristheblackswan3584]

How come you don't go into a trade? I was a hospital housekeeper that made just enough to afford rent and put food on the table, then got fired for not taking the covid shot. Took the opportunity to upgrade my career and went into mechanic work. I'm in my first year as an apprentice and I doubled the money I made every 2 weeks. After I get my licence In a few years I'll make about 3 times the amount I was making at that shithole hospital job. Narrow down what interests you in terms of trades and commit to one, you won't regret it.

[@razer7920]

Haha my man

[@enkiandenlil]

same im trying to save up

[@GypsyDanger2000]

I feel this

[@enkiandenlil]

@@larristheblackswan3584 what some trades were you do not work on team/with other people, like go at your own pace type setting

[@zebrion5793]

As a man, we're brought up being taught to struggle and bear our burdens alone, because to share them is to show weakness and weakness leads to being exploited by someone stronger than you. We are broken from the start. We grow up KNOWING that we don't really matter to even the people we consider the closest to us. The first time most men ever receive flowers is at their own funeral. To the wider world, we are literally nothing and we're TOLD we're nothing. We're SHOWN we're nothing based on how others treat us. We're struggling, and it's just getting worse. There are so many pressures from so many directions now, and we're just unable to be as perfect as we're required to be. We're more lonely than ever. We're replaceable. It just sucks. We aren't offing ourselves because we have mental illness. We're doing it because life has backed us into a corner and we don't see relief coming.

[@doxenking3899]

Very well said

[@Lilitha11]

You are not nothing, everyone has value in the world from the unique perspective only they hold. If the people around you don't value you, then you should try to find those who do value you, because those people do exist. There are a lot of nice and caring people in the world, who have empathy. They do care, and they don't want to see you suffer, they don't think you are replaceable. I don't think anyone is replaceable.

[@Colegrover97]

To be fair, women experience their own level of issues in the world. Up until women’s suffrage in the USA, women were not allowed to work, vote, fight or anything. I think this is a deeper issue than just value, because men are still valued on some level, but I think it’s a disconnect. Many of us used to feel pride in being a man, because we were just that and with that came privileges because of the world that men built. Up until the last 100 years, men pretty much built the infrastructure and continue to maintain that infrastructure, while the women have become increasingly prevalent in positions of power. I don’t think this is wrong, but I think people have become upset with the idea that they are not special. Back then, men felt special because they were men, and that idea also led to good men and good women treating each other very well. The value of being a man has not magically disappeared. It has just come more difficult to obtain the status of manhood which drove the American dream in the past, and that upsets us.

[@Le_Ascott]

Tate is one thing, but Asmon really took Peterson's "Clean your room" personally...

[@Azmania3000]

My entire life revolves around 2 rooms and it is always clean. I don't want to go outside. The weather sucks. I'm still waiting for global warming. I should be that guy who lives in a box on top of a mountain waiting for Godzilla to spawn. Just drop me a crate of supplies once a month

[@george_MF_washington]

@@Azmania3000I’m slightly like you. But thanks to working out and actually looking good I gained confidence, female validation, and friends. Not everyone loves me, but I try to be likable. Life isn’t perfect but you’re in charge of your life.

[@frikabg]

Honestly men are generally fed up with being told 'do better' ok I will but I want when I go out to see everyone doing better but that never happens so at sone point you just do your best just so you can have other people who do anything but trying to be better and these very same people are focusing all their time and energy to harm you in one way or another because that is bringing them profit. So you... F cleaning your room if you don't feel like it. My room being clean should be one of the last thing that concerns you. What should bother you is if I keep the area where we spend time together clean? Am I a capable person to work with etc.

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

@@george_MF_washington You are like him, but attractive.

[@lel90]

Dr. K killed Reckful.

[@ario2019]

You are not a pervert, You are not a creep, You are not a freak. You are just not tall or rich enough. That's it.

[@sophiethewitch9443]

Wait, do you deny that there are creeps and perverts out there? Or am I misunderstanding that comment?

[@bradwhite6431]

You're missing his point but i suspect you knew that and just wanted to say what you said anyway. @sophiethewitch9443

[@sophiethewitch9443]

@@bradwhite6431 I am not missing his point. His literal comment: "You are not a creep." speaking to literally everyone who reads this comment. Including the actual creeps and perverts. So, my question still stands: do you guys believe that creeps and perverts do not exist, or? Or do you find that being a creep and pervert is normal and therefore does not deserve to be called out with those terms? The entire comments section is a cesspool of incels and misogynists, so it wouldn't surprise me.

[@bradwhite6431]

@sophiethewitch9443 There you go, putting words in people's mouths as you insult and belittle. You are out of your league here. You are strawmaning his comment. You invented a position that wasn't espoused only to insult and bully people.

[@monkibro]

@@sophiethewitch9443 Think of it the same way as when a woman says "All men are trash", or the whole women choosing the bear thing a few months ago. Same logic, but used to support instead of tear down.

[@Myusos]

As a man never show what haunts you, the world doesnt care. You can express discontent on superficial annoyances but even that is looked down upon. I truly dont believe men ever fully open up even those with the most successful families.

[@stronensycharte64]

The one time i opened up to my ex wife about my problems and my struggles she made fun of me and never stopped bringing it up years later. People are evil.

[@N7sensei]

@@stronensycharte64 I was fired once in my life - not due to any issues with my work. I accidentally found out about some corrupt stuff the leadership was involved in. They cheated tens of millions, if not hundreds out of the company. I felt really betrayed, because I made that company a fortune with my work, and in the end I was kicked out and treated like a criminal and nobody stood up for me - not my manager, not my coworkers, not the girl that was madly in love with me, not the many so called friends I made there. I told my wife about it, and how badly I felt because of it, and how I wish I didn't say this or that. Well, wife keeps bringing that up quite frequently when we fight. Don't show weakness. Especially not to women. Discuss that crap with your brother, or a close friend. And only if it can't be turned against you. My 2 cents, at least.

[@aisanovac3801]

They have successful families because they know how to cope with absolute loneliness.

[@ericwaln2056]

I disagree, Asmon literally just shared his mental health shortcomings in this video and it was very cathartic for allot of people.

[@Myusos]

@@ericwaln2056 While i have no definite proof who is to say he doesnt have more issues he couldnt say. Also he just had a chance to share cause he was reacting to a video that was discussing why men cant express certain emotions.

[@Michael-ex8lk]

Well here is the thing about "incels", the definition changes depending on who you ask. A normal dude could be an incel depending on how mentally deranged the person you are talking to is.

[@bobowon5450]

i've been called an incel because i don't want to date. It was at that point i came to the conclusion people don't know what the "in" part of "incel" means

[@whenpigsfly8178]

@@bobowon5450 It depends on which of 'can't' or 'don't want to' came first. Some people don't want to, because they couldn't and gave up, myself as a case in point. I'm a semi-incel - I probably would be an incel if I tried to meet girls, but I never even tried to date and have learned helplessness in that department.

[@Daniel_C_Griffin]

I go with the actual definition of involuntary celibate, so I consider myself an Incel because I'm 30, without a partner, and a virgin. But the term is used now to just attack people.

[@shonenbat6553]

"incel" "nazi" etc have now devolved into "person i don't like" or "person i disagree with"

[@WyattOShea]

@@shonenbat6553 Pretty much.

[@KillingDemons]

I've had a few friends of mine off themselves over the years. You know why every single one of them offed themselves? Women. Women are the leading cause to men offing themselves in my opinion. These guys poored their heart and soul into the relationship and every single one of them found out their women was cheating on them behind their back and killed themselves over it. Some of them even had children.

[@smolsnek3835]

What did their women do?

[@kapitan19969838]

​​@@smolsnek3835 Cheated. Did You read this?

[@greyowl750]

Some of them after decades finally find out. I did...I had a couple plans to check out but my children got wind of it and pulled me back from the brink. NOW...today I am engaged to a beautiful filipina and would NEVER EVER DATE A WESTERN WOMAN AGAIN. Trust me on this...get a passport. You can be chubby..old...almost broke, dusty, ugly and feeling hopeless...a filipina....will pick you up, dust you off and will easily accept your healing process...in fact, she will make it the best thing that ever happened to you. Trust me on this. From 1 who knows.

[@louiserocks1]

​@@greyowl750I agree 100% my wife is from Uzbekistan but they have pretty much the same mentality. Most people think Asian wifes are just in the relationship for the money or green card but that's only like 10% of cases? The vast majority of them are so loving, caring, sometimes even they are richer than you and will treat you lol

[@greyowl750]

@@louiserocks1 100% in agreement...Anywhere but from a G7 Nation.

[@BS-Reviewz]

80% of men aren’t 6’ tall 80% of men don’t make 6 figures 80% of men don’t have a 6 pack. 80% of men are invisible

[@missperfectluxury7630]

But these are the same guys who wont date average women bc they want a model when they are overweight so yea ofc these models are going to go for rich men if they have options same with men

[@fromfareast3070]

@@missperfectluxury7630 Average woman wont date the average guy.

[@RickofUniverseC-137]

​@@missperfectluxury7630OP is right and you're also right. Your comment is irrelevant. And being invisible doesn't mean being unable to date women. You think very small about the term "invisible".

[@patrykm1087]

@@missperfectluxury7630 Absolutley not, most men would date an average kind and caring girl

[@AbsentMinded619]

Yeah I’ve frankly only ever met a couple of guys who aimed too high in real life. It’s more common in movies. Most men I know date way below their potential-often their girlfriends are abusive and also less attractive than them. Guys will just fall for whoever’s in their frame.

[@maxxpower3d6]

When women get angry, people call them bossy or bitchy. When men get angry, people call security.

[@silkemyk3178]

Then I think you are doing anger wrong lmao

[@captaininsano111]

​@@silkemyk3178💯. He's confusing assertion with aggression. Big yikes

[@Happyduderawr]

Yeah I smash windows with my fists when I'm mad I do t blame em for calling security lmao.

[@rhett3185]

@@captaininsano111Reddit is that way

[@denkerbosu3551]

Damn, this thread is dumb.

[@ryanscanlon2151]

I spent most of my teenage years and part of my 20's in therapy with psychiatrists and not once did I ever hear anyone acknowledge life circumstances as a reason for depression and not a "chemical imbalance". Thwarted belonging was 100% the source of the depression I went through and I've never heard anyone put it so succinctly. I must have been to at least 6 therapists and not one of them even considered it or if they did ever suggest it to me.

[@7ripleSeven7]

It's amazing I've never heard it put into those words but it makes so much sense based on my personal journey. The sad part is, how do you even fix something like that? I've always struggled with "being true to myself" vs "be someone the group would like".

[@ryanscanlon2151]

@@7ripleSeven7 yeah I feel you on that I did for a long time. At the end of the day it is a balance that requires some give and take and I know the give part was especially hard for me as I imagine it is for many others. Ultimately it comes down to a controlled burn if you will, letting the dead wood (the parts of yourself that are bad for you) burn away so new growth and take its place.

[@blitzcraig1001]

They want to make sure they're writing as many prescriptions as possible, for as long as possible. Everyone gets depressed, unless you truly have a chemical imbalance you should be able to recover if you keep working toward solving the issues that are making you depressed. Lose your job, find another one, lose you girl, get over her and find another one etc...

[@DatAsianGuy]

@@7ripleSeven7 it's very simple. psychologists and therapists are frauds. why do you think there was such a huge push years ago to make depression this "the brain is not properly working"-thing and not anything else? They want to sell you the idea that their is something fundamentally wrong with your body/brain. so you need meds to feel good. to fix your issue...

[@ryanscanlon2151]

@@blitzcraig1001 as I've learned more about phycology over there years I'm starting to think "chemical imbalance" is code for we can't figure out what's wrong with you for what ever reason. It's not like they do blood work and actually check your brain chemistry

[@NuclearWinter69]

My mom does karaoke with her friends. There are like 40 of them. I went to watch once. On the mic she announced I’m her son and I’m an introvert. I never went again. Ive always been like this, when i was 6 i asked her to stop talking to the cashiers at the grocery store because i thought it was rude. Im not ashamed or sad or suffering. i like being alone.

[@NuchiAsaki]

I would have left immediately. Even if it means walking home alone.

[@chrisj2024]

It such a rude thing to do, to a fellow adult, and that relationship is now an adult-parent to an adult-child. That adult to adult aspect is the most important part of that relationship. This means the respect of the other adult in the relationship is important.

[@Judasdfg]

We're gonna makeit bro!

[@pepinlebref7585]

my mom did it constantly when I was a child, it was so humiliating. I think that she wanted me to react to prove her wrong, but it just induced the opposite reaction in me

[@rayminishi689]

Parents embarassing their kids. This isnt something new Chances are, you'll look back on that moment. Learn to laugh at yourself because once your mom is gone. Well, lets see if that loneliness really helps

[@pedrob7374]

The saddest thing is how so many women online reacted to this... reinforced the "keep your shit to yourself" I'm glad I have a wife I can talk to... but even with a supporting and understanding wife I dont let them know how bad or dark I truly feel right now (lost my dad 2 weeks ago and we were VERY close)

[@prophetedubaroque5136]

Strength to you, and hope you'll get better.

[@kristinewberg7656]

Thank you for being a man willing to do the hard thing of being vulnerable with your wife. I know that I really appreciate and respect my husband for being strong enough to be that way with me, and I bet your wife feels the same way. I am sorry about your dad, though. Nothing can ever really fix losing someone you love.

[@ColdsteppaPMO]

RIP

[@tarael86]

37 years old incel here who lives with their parents while playing video games all day. Last time I dated was about 10 years ago. The woman I went out with for 4 months was telling all my friends behind my back that I was actually stalking her. This went on for the whole four months until the last friend I had left asked me why I "was doing this to her". Imagine my confusion. She was also telling people that I became friends with her mom so she would force her to date me. I was only in her house once and talked with the mom for about 10 minutes tops. The whole ordeal sent me back into heavy depression and made me quit college. It also gave me chronic severe anxiety attacks that hit me every once and again.

[@makefoxhoundgreatagain842]

I Heard your story bro I'm really sorry to hear that keep on keeping on brother we're all going to make it! 🍻💪🤘

[@lucadesanctis563]

Holy hell...

[@geo5295]

she sounds mentally ill.. as hard as it can be try not to let one person effect and control your whole life especially someone as crazy as that. If people believed her after you only dated for 4 months then they never knew you to begin with no loss and you saved yourself from future heartbreak. Alot more people are in or have been in your shoes than you probably think.. Also don't let people label you and keep your head up

[@tarael86]

@@geo5295 Well, the damage is done.

[@Gorlami90]

It’s up to us as Individuals to take responsibility for our own lives

[@kolt9307]

A lot of people have forgotten how to process internally, they are scared to process their own thoughts. This is very important for good long term mental health.

[@catalyst772]

how do you do that?

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Maybe? It feels like I've tried it, but ultimately gave up when it kept getting stuck on "WTF do I DO about it?"

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

i don't get it

[@kolt9307]

Its not always about having a fix for a particular issue. Sometimes you need to process the information to find a way to resolve it. Another will be to process the information and accept there is nothing you can do to fix that situation. The important part is the process itself. When you don't do it it becomes an issue that manifests later down the road and or sits at the back of your mind. I am one of the lucky ones that have always been able to do this. I also have very good mental health due to the way I process problemssnor concerns. I do have the occasional bad day like everyone but ultimately I have control By engaging in the process you actually get better at creating solutions for yourself.

[@Blacky_ljb1]

I've tried to listen to my inner self which seems to always be looking to the future. What should I do next even though I've just started something. I'm an extremely bad over-thinker. I'm always looking into the future to prepare myself for what bad things could happen at an event or something. By the time that I get there I've already experienced everything in my head and I'm bored and tired. I'll try to experience something new and then my inner self likes to remind me of all my past failures and embarrassments when I get out of my comfort zone. So now I drown out my inner voice with music. P.S it doesn't help

[@shawnzy4101]

Covid was a standard "day in the office" for me. It didn't change anything for me - all day by myself 😂 Other people didn't know what to do with themselves 😮

[@logancade342]

I truly relate to this. I was like, "I finally feel normal... Why is everyone so bummed out?" 😷

[@lowfade556]

lmfao yeah i didn't notice much change. well going to gym or TKD club wasn't possible sometimes which sucked, but other than that atleast.

[@ajkulac9895]

People called it "lockdown", I called it a really long gaming session

[@Brakka86]

Yeah same. It's so odd, some of my friends were going insane, while nothing changed for me.

[@slothvr5752]

Same man I was happy lol

[@elhatarolodohod2040]

There was a meme about introverts during covid: "I just realised my life has been a quarantine." 😄

[@seanrasmussen2877]

As a big guy, 6ft 300lbs, i have spent my whole life being told I have to calm down the second I get emotional. I understand that it's scarrier when a bigger guy gets angry or whatever, but it does get to you.

[@cokeweasel1064]

Something I've noticed about myself, is that when i get mildly angry, people see it as rage. I think the problem is I don't know how to regulate my outward anger venting levels. I'll be louder than I intend to be. Which is probably due to the lack of socialization experience.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

maybe don't calm down lol

[@ironclad4451]

The bigger you are the more people treat you like a monster

[@joelvaldesjr.7404]

When I was in highschool I was 6'2" 294lbs and I took a step back one day and body slammed a girl. It was a small movement from me that ended up knocking the wind out of her. Ever since then I am afraid of making big moves when around other people, I would rather stay/sit still.

[@jeromemartel3916]

@@joelvaldesjr.7404 You accepted it like it's a bad thing. It's really not. You can use it like you unintentionally did by hurting others (or bullying or w/e) or you can use it for your community, helping move big object, make people feel secure around you, grab stuff from high place, etc. It's not a negative thing.

[@aflood3446]

Men aren't appreciated. They don't want to be seen as weak, so they won't seek help. It's so sad. Life is hard... for everybody. Be understanding.

[@ThatDamnedGamer1]

When we do ask for help we get demonized by everyone. Not asking for help and learning to take everything on was and still is called surviving in a world that looks for any reason to hate and demonize us.

[@BarachielGaming]

Yes

[@AXharoth]

bc they been taught to not ask for help and to not be "weak" , but you need help , everybody does

[@SirRivelion]

If you'd hear what psychology graduates think about (struggling) men, you wouldn't want their help either.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

this life isn't your heaven, it's a cage

[@SailorEffinMoon]

I keep seeing people saying to never cry in front of their girlfriend or wife because they'll see it as weak and leave you. I guess I'm the odd girl out then. The first time my bf cried in front of me it broke my heart. All I wanted to do was hold him and help him with his pain. I was blown away that he felt comfortable enough with me to show that side of him. If anything, it only made me love him even more. If you can't show your emotions to the people you care about then I'd say those people aren't worth your time!

[@TheQuadraticAttenuator]

There definitely are women like you and my gf who are sympathetic to men being emotional, but in my experience with dating/having mostly female friends, the vast majority aren't. Even if they don't consciously realize it, their view of you totally changes. You also have to consider, a lot of the dudes commenting here aren't exactly in a position to be selective about the kind of friends they have. It's easy to say "don't waste your time on those types of people", which is good advice, but if those are the only connections they have, and they aren't able or willing to make new ones, they won't be so willing to just cut them off. But I do agree overall. I think they're probably looking for the wrong types of people in the wrong places to befriend or pursue romantically.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Be kind and loyal to him, and he"ll love you FOREVER. VVomen with your sane mentality are one in a million - extremely cherished and nowadays, incredibly rare, it seems.

[@guvyygvuhh298]

That's wholesome. I love it

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@@guvyygvuhh298 wait until he pisses her off and she brings this up to get the upper hand

[@guvyygvuhh298]

@@denkerbosu3551 Yea it do be like that (most of the time)

[@FPSzerogaming]

The country is mostly noticing because it's affecting women. It would go unnoticed if it wasn't.

[@RepentantDrContra]

I grew up in a world of violence. Anger is necessary. People will not steamroll you if you are willing to confront them. Anger is necessary. Time to stop listening to people who are perpetually afraid of their own shadows.

[@geo5295]

anger is only a necessity if youre not smart enough to outwit them. People fear the unknown way more.

[@RepentantDrContra]

@geo5295 Clearly you've never faced unreasonable people. Wit won't help when you're surrounded by 30 or more people. Especially if those 30+ people are carrying weapons and hearing nothing you have to say.

[@KingTai64]

You havent met professional victims. Those who want to piss you off then cry like they are the victim. Meet enough people like that and you'll change your tune.

[@na-ky8ou]

​@@geo5295 No. Violence happens wether you like it or not, and avoiding it isn't a matter of choice or intelligence. Standing up for yourself is a necessity, even in today's world

[@keeferChiefer]

You can confront people while being calm and collected, I don’t think anger is necessary, I believe it only serves to cloud your judgement. But obviously sometimes anger is inevitable so it’s important to learn how to control and redirect in a healthy way.

[@lordgrey5223]

Streaming, talking on the phone/ discord is not the same as "being around people." You lose out on a lot of connection without being physically around friends. I often dont want to go out or do something, but force myself to, because it never is something I look back on and regret.

[@cokeweasel1064]

It's helps when you live far from your friends. I would have fallen away from my friends completely if it weren't for Discord and online gaming.

[@mayconlcruz]

​@@cokeweasel1064 Which in turn denotes another problem: more and more people feel alienated around the people they are obligated to physically interact with. The place where they live only offers hobbies and personalities that are simply incompatible with them, and the act of moving to another city is increasingly becoming a luxury.

[@lordgrey5223]

@@cokeweasel1064 for sure. Dont get me wrong, probably 90% of my friends interactions are through discord just because they live 6hr+ away from me. But also realize that isnt really a sufficient replacement to personal interactions.

[@macrohotline8834]

I didint ever felt need for physical cintact with friends, shoorly its nice but highly optional

[@Deliverygirl]

Really? I never feel that way, I usually regret going places to meet people if I don't take stimulants. The best thing about being online is that I can just log off and that's it, they're gone. Being around people is exhausting.

[@reygar80]

Asmon worried about people thinking he's insane, that is hilarious. That is exactly why people like you dude.

[@macrohotline8834]

If you insane you can go mad kek

[@danielrivera21]

“They genuinely have a life that is no longer worth living” The realest thing I’ve heard someone say in such a long time.. I would love to talk to this guy. Level of honesty that makes me grow a big rubbery one.

[@nuance7183]

It's comforting in a way to know I'm not the only one that really doesn't understand extroverts and ultimately society as a whole. I was diagnosed with autism at 32 after multiple attempts at my own life and constantly unsure of how to integrate. honestly it helped so much to realise why i was feeling how I was. and we're constantly told men are evil, that we're inherently bad.. It makes life such an uphill struggle. not having a father like alot of others, no ones ever shown me how to be a man, had to work it out for myself..

[@7ripleSeven7]

Same. At least we know there's lots of company with this misery. I actually tried to be ultra macho in my younger years, I even ignored the childhood abusive, drug addict father because I didnt want to be seen as a "weak victim mentality". If finally started facing it and acknowledging the pain. It's a journey.

[@danielantony1882]

Same. And I’m an extrovert. As much as I want to talk to people, though, I’m stuck as a hermit, a shut-in, in a house where I mentally don’t know how to get out of. My dad was a particularly sick piece of work who I parted ways with, but I’m just drifting along for now. Traumatized mom, indifferent little brother, and a grandma who’s trying to do her best for us before she’s gone, just like we will be one day. Life is unreal, man.

[@ValkynShade]

What he said about life being not worth living for some people is very accurate. And a big reason I see in a lot of people I interacted with in the past is the lack of a clear goal or, ironically, having a goal that is way too high. Because what happens is you either live your life, go to work, go home, do chores, do grocery shopping and repeat while slowly fading away because there is zero purpose in your life other than being essentially a slave to a routine that doesn't do anything for you, or you work yourself to exhaustion because you cannot reach what your eyes are set to.

[@laurenz4528]

Also society tells man they are not needed anymore, women can provide for themselves, which is true and good. But maybe hundreds of thousands of years of being needed, does something to the brain. Imo its essential for men to be needed in some way, of course there are many ways of making yourself usefull. I think we as men are biologicaly wired to be needed in a certain degree, thats also why most men feel better after doing something usefull instead of talking about something to feel better.

[@ValkynShade]

@@laurenz4528 I disagree with the statement that women don't need men. Both genders need each other. Society can only work if men and women work together instead of straying away. Indivually of course everyone should do what they're happy with, but on the larger scale, men can't live without women and women can't live without men. Who's gonna make the next generation? Single women? Single men?

[@new-bp6ix]

“Today, all of humanity's dreams are cursed somehow. Beautiful yet cursed dreams.” ― Hayao Miyazaki Hearing this made me realize that everyone struggles with their work, even if people think this work is easy

[@matthewhummel1572]

Talking about the not being heard part, as a senior in high school, there was a rash of middle schoolers in my state that took their own lives due to bullying. My horrible mother was watching that, and said “that’s so sad.” I foolishly chose to open up to her and let her know I had almost done the same thing in sixth grade. She immediately snarled “You’d have gone to hell!” All I did was say “see? Not so sad anymore, is it?” And walked away. That was the last time I ever opened up to her about anything, and now we don’t speak at all, but I’m better off for it. Keep your heads up, forge your own path, and control your emotions. That’s the best advice I can give.

[@jomama800]

Someone asks “How are you?” You either say fine or contemplate your life in a millisecond.

[@merok4291]

Idk if its bad or not i just find it funny i always answer to this cookie cuter question with "Im still breathing.", and it always kicks ppl off from their small talk. I HATE SMALL TALK with ppl i have interaction once every decade JUST SAY HI and move on. XD

[@chunderfpv]

I've always hated the 'hi, how are you?" greeting. First, they don't really care. Second, it's none of their business.

[@paulg84]

"The horrors persist, yet so do I."

[@Mirekluk]

I just started saying negative fine like "I've been better" "Could improve" "Not the best". Fuck fine, things aren't fine. I don't desperately want your pity, but I just don't wanna be dishonest.

[@xAudiolith]

I usually just ignore the "how are you" part and treat it like any other greeting in hopes that they understand how rude they sound. Funny enough they usually hit you with that one right before asking for a favour. I also let my actual friends know that I expect an honest answer if they wish to do so. Although that privilige is reserved for maybe 1-2 people plus my parents.

[@Tucarius]

People, are work. Women doubly so. Relationships cost time and money, which we all do not have these days. If i had money instead of a mortgage payment, i'd consider dating. I expect a lot of people are the same. And that doesn't even cover the amount of getting in shape that is required for modern men to even attract women, standards are too high to expect anything for all your efforts.

[@RecklessCV]

Getting in shape isn't a bad thing. It will extend your life. Don't do it for a girl, do it for yourself. Girls are more picky about heights than body type, and even then it can be ignored if you check enough boxes.

[@Epsilonsama]

Brother get in shape for yourself. In fact anything related to self improvement should be for yourself. The first step towards happiness is learning to live with yourself. Once you do and realize hey regardless of what happens I'm good with it, then if you find someone else to share your life with you can go for it. But too many people get themselves in relationships thinking they gonna be fixed or be happy only to find hell. When my oldest Brother was around my age he being desparate to get married, ended up with someone who was batshit insane and to this day he is suffering because of it. When that happened to him I realized hmmm maybe being alone isn't that bad. 😂

[@ninakore]

You seem neurotic

[@Beanskiiii]

Man a bunch of men in these comments crying. Society is so cooked, but hard times create strong men etc.

[@lel90]

Dr. K killed Reckful.

[@HanibolZer0]

The best advice I have ever gotten “ do not sweat the small shit and fuck ‘em “ if it’s not life and death at the end of the day it’s not that big of a deal

[@troll_486]

tried this, and made me almost emotionless, because almost nothing is "death or life" situation the word "care" is in superposition you should and shouldn't at the same time

[@neky684]

BRO, coping with people through complete isolation, just because he's only happy when he's alone. This felt like he's been in my brain. Finally someone who found the words for what I experience.

[@valentynvorobec7834]

Shame I am not enough invisible when trying to cheat on exams...

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

Drink lemon 🍋😂

[@awsambdaman]

When that’s the only time people notice you :/

[@postmodernmining]

Wear a dress and you'll be celebrated for cheating.

[@katarinadreams6955]

I hope you're joking...

[@Moneytopz]

@@katarinadreams6955I hope he’s not

[@MasterOssy]

From a report of Only Fans months ago and who dumped the most money into that business. This is the true definition of an incel. Incel is a married man….that’s all you need right there.

[@Trihahalos]

When I had a bad day, I ALWAYS say that I had a bad day if someone asks. When someone asks me if I am ok, I ALWAYS say if I am not ok. Screw pleasantries.

[@danielantony1882]

@@zogwort1522 I legit can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.

[@danielantony1882]

@@zogwort1522 Brags? Did I miss a page in the definition or something? Why do you think I’m someone who thinks my misery is okay or is something I’m proud of? Are you okay, man? We can talk this out.

[@danielantony1882]

@@zogwort1522 Sure, I guess. If that makes you feel better.

[@lucario5748]

@@zogwort1522 You mistook the guy replying to you for OP.

[@chacka4292]

So you take european stance 😂

[@furiousdestroyah9999]

Before when somebody angered you, you could just duel them and the loser would be left with the shame. We need to go back to this

[@sterilepickle544]

Pulls out yugioh deck

[@furiousdestroyah9999]

@@sterilepickle544 It's time to dududududu

[@tao2sic]

I disagree with the statement most domestic violence comes from men. Men rarely report their abuse so I think the numbers are skewed.

[@ninakore]

Lol

[@truckywuckyuwu]

We also aren't believed. I was abused, told other people and they shunned me and didn't believe me. Feels like there's no point. No one to help.

[@SirRivelion]

The most violent relationships are between 2 lesbians, and the most peaceful relationships are between 2 guys. I wonder who, statistically, makes life harder for their SO...

[@slothvr5752]

Yeah man I've been in 2 relationships where the woman did things that would ABSOLUTELY be considered abusive and violent. Never reported and too embarrassed to tell anyone, obviously can't hit back or I'm done for so I just took it 🤷‍♂️ super common

[@N7sensei]

Most domestic violence is initiated by women. Studies clearly show that. Child abuse and neglect: women, mostly mothers are leading there. Elder abuse: again, women are winning!

[@stormzo6235]

Being an introvert does not mean that you would rather stay at home than go out, its that going out really drains you where as extraverts feel recharged being in social settings.

[@GamingAndChill]

Nah, i'm an extreme introvert. I'd rather stay inside no matter what. I love my hobbies, i simply don't care what's happening in other people's lives. I'm stacking money for the future and chilling. Have a few friends, a dog, i'm good with my family members. That's good enough for me.

[@stormzo6235]

@@GamingAndChill as I said, that has nothing to do with being an introvert. That's just how u like to spend your time. You can be introverted and love to go out and do things and you can be extroverted and love to stay at home and do nothing.

[@christianalanwilson434]

Like everything else in life, its a spectrum. I've always been a loner, socially awkward and introverted, but I still enjoy social interactions. They're just draining and i tend to heavily limit them. I'm fine with being a shut in sometimes but I also like going out and around in the world, though usually alone or in a small group. I've always been comfortable being alone with myself and my thoughts, however. Many people aren't.

[@Nakai_the_Wanderer]

I had a strong father figure, became an electrical engineer, own a nice car and know how to talk to people. I am still an incel at 39 years of age though, because I am an introvert and hate to interact with people. I know how to interact with people and I am a teamleader in the R&D departement at my company but I just don't want to have personal interaction after work. I am selfish and hate people, but I am also able to play a role in public that makes people think I am just normal. After a couple of years people stopped asking me why I have no girlfriend and they are now busy with their families. To them I am a walking midlife crisis without the crisis part though. I am content with being a loner.

[@sebastianbronowicki7073]

Imo the worst part of being a loner are all those people that constantly pester you with stuff like "Why aren't you making friends? When will you start a family? Are looking for a girlfriend/boyfriend yet? But aren't you lonely though?" They don't just ask once, sometimes they do so every chance they get and it absolutely sucks.

[@michaelh878]

I don't think you know the meaning of involuntary.

[@whenpigsfly8178]

@@sebastianbronowicki7073 Some people don't have anyone who even cares to ask that. So, eh, we all have crosses to bear.

[@7ripleSeven7]

I feel your pain brother! I've lived that a slightly similar life for almost four decades as well. In my situation I had relationships but they were usually always short and I never felt like I was understood by any of them. I have a job, made some ok-ish money when the company was at its peak. A fully functional mostly-invisible life. I try to find meaning where I can. Somedays I'm ok with it, others not so much. And my family doesnt ask about my life anymore either. Instead they look at me with some blend of uncertainty/trepidation/and maybe fear? What a world...

[@ninakore]

It's ok to be content with introversion and don't worry about others opinions. You don't sound like an incel either.

[@rplewis]

The problem is the tunnel vision of the people complaining about men. If you only date players, then every man is a player. If you're jealous of a CEO, then every man is a CEO If you had one bad boyfriend, every man is violent Everyone else is effectively invisible.

[@IfYouWantBlood1]

My dad passed away 9 months after being diagnosed with cancer because things spread so fast. I had a tremendous amount of anger due to the question of why. Why my dad? Why that fast? Anger often stems from questions that will never be answered.

[@kevinrudd1413]

Im sorry for your loss brother.

[@IsaacCruz]

May your dad rest in peace

[@statwow]

There arent any high paying jobs for blue collar non college educated workers so we can generate enough money to purchase a home and save money in order to have a family. Men realize that there is only a few good jobs and all those are given to friends/family of people who know the person who has the good job available...Not only, but the rich Kid whose dad was the pharamciist whose sons flunks out of college and uses his connections to get all the city work contracts for construction.. gotta love it

[@robenriven]

programming is one, no need of college.

[@mekal177]

Plain wrong. If you can't save 10-20k for a down payment you have bad lifestyle learn to cut down

[@N7sensei]

@@robenriven I asked ChatGPT4 what would be a funny reply to your comment. She says (YES, she is a SHE, okay?!): So, if I learn programming, will I get the city work contracts for construction too? Asking for a friend... 👷‍♂💻🏗

[@christianalanwilson434]

You don't need a house or a family to be happy. If that's important to you, fine, work towards it as best you can, but realize its not a necessity. Don't be afraid to go your own way, or to approach your goals in a roundabout way. Remember, the people who tell you that you "need" these things are usually the ones selling them to you.

[@TitusAndromadon]

This isn't true. In my friend group alone, not just ppl I know tangentially. 2 friends work maintenance at an auto factory both make 150k, I have 2 friends that are union millwrights, 1 make 200k, the other works 7 months and takes off 5 months with his family and makes 120k. I have another friend that is a commercial new construction plumber makes 100k. One friend owns a small auto shop and works 2 weekends a month doing union work and he makes 300k a year. None of these ppl have a college degree. A few of them took 6 month trade school courses. I am 43 and semi retired from telecommunications work and now run a small business instead.

[@Diogenes_von_Sinope]

i hated school. the social aspect of it. family allways told me i should enoy it, cause the seriousness of life (ernst des lebens) i have not seen yet. this was, and still is the most demoralizing thing anyone could say to a young person.

[@dandldoouu5911]

und nun? schuften für geld ohne kaufkraft, opferst du deine gesundheit und deine lebenszeit für einen ort der dich morgen ersetzt hätte. das haben die alten gemeint. und sie hatten recht. absolut krank diese normalität sein leben zu ver-arbeiten.

[@mtgmatt462]

This "Ernst des Lebens" bullshit comes from people who haven't figured out as an adult how to design their life in a way that gives them meaning. Or they just repeat stuff without knowing why

[@cokeweasel1064]

School was pure hell for people like us

[@everfall1075]

They were prob just trying to prepare you I have thought about saying things like that to my niece and nephews at times because I love them and want them to be prepared for the horrors ahead

[@N7sensei]

Being a kid was fun, but adult life has its own penchant of purpose, happiness, joy, and yes, also burdens and apocalypses.

[@cozenw3236]

Depression is just anger without enthusiasm.

[@RIP_ZYZZ1738]

27:00 when he started talking about the anger, it literally resonated with me. At around 7-8, I suddenly chilled out. If I got angry back then, I’d literally bite and poke people’s eyes out (partly why I never got bullied). I must’ve realized it wasn’t worth it when I was really young

[@xAudiolith]

Somehow we let children express emotion in a safe and controlled environment. Then they become adults and we take it away and expect them to just interalise it??

[@NullAndVoidEmpire]

One of the best things that changed my perspective of getting mad at others was being told, "Why give them this power over you?" Couldn't answer that. Felt like a fool learning common sense that way, but eternally thankful I did. In other words they ain't worth it.

[@tom1998rules]

How are humans not animals? People think that because were on top of the food chain, were no longer part of the food chain.

[@JamesW609]

All that goes through a lions head is hunt, mate, sleep. I guess that separates us from animal is the ability to ask why. What I think were just animals that can ask why.

[@matoiiveyy2005]

@@JamesW609 instead of hunt, its work, mate, sleep. truly not so different

[@KingTai64]

How quicklt you become part of the food chain again when your stranded in the middle of a savannah.

[@Simidubs]

8:18 This is some S tier foreshadowing 😅

[@MacWinter1]

Kinda Scary that, he knew back then, that he needed a break

[@Gamecrazed613]

Omg, this discussion dredged up so many old painful memories. This spoke volumes about my childhood growing up.

[@Crownl3ss]

During my college years, I was hanging on a very thin thread, I was working side by side my studies and trying to get by but it was never enough completely and I had to heavily rely on my parents and it felt really awful and it became worse when I didn't get scholarship for my masters. Most of the times I resented myself for not being good enough and not doing enough, some times I resented my parents for not being able to provide for me and some times I hated the world, but I made it, I came out fine on the other side but there were many a times when I wanted to waste my life. I don't know if the grind was worth it or not but what I am really happy about is that right now, I am able to support my parents and they acknowledge my success and my support for them.

[@michaela6073]

“Men want to be alone…but we don’t want to be by ourselves ” -Patrice O’Neal

[@harryscarry6064]

Wrong way round

[@harryscarry6064]

Men don’t want to be alone but they quite like being by themselves.

[@jordanwhite8718]

I remember listening to lecture by Alan Watts and one thing he says that he says to anybody tells him that they want to commit suicide is that it’s entirely their right to do that. He says that when you tell somebody who wants to commit suicide that they have every right to do it oddly enough, it will lead to them, feeling less shame about it so that they’re actually less likely to do it when they feel some sense of control.

[@jackoverton8343]

Suic*** the Forever decision by paul g quinnet says something similar in the book. Also talks about how IT IS a solution but it's a permanent one for only a temporary problem.

[@rhatikeo]

im an introvert who became an Extroverts but is back being a introvert. i appreciate being an introvert more you definitely see how differently people treat you, being extroverted is kinda like having more money in a social energy way and some people will treat you the same way based on that so called social wealth, being an introvert is like being poor and happy, yet rich in knowing how people will treat you. no one will know how much you care and love. being stoic is our face

[@samizdat8518]

When I clicked on this video I was shown an ad for “drag queens save the world” These are systemic problems

[@bobowon5450]

lol imagine not using adblock

[@johnlinks]

Why shame people for their choices

[@canihave1dab724]

@@johnlinkswhat a dumb comment. Why shame people for the choices they make? Cuz they make bad choices and we want them to make better choices. Shame works.

[@FYgoat]

@@johnlinks It's more fun to hate what you don't know than to accept it

[@lokouba]

@@canihave1dab724 Shame can work but its a hella inefficient compared to raw constructive criticism.

[@patg14]

A guy I know was really sick. His daughter told me he has "man flu". He went to hospital via ambulance with cardiac arrhythmia and fibrillation. It's so hard for people today to consider that men might actually have legitimate issues.

[@daquancurry7805]

I cant find work, been kicked out from my kids, been trying to reconnect with myself and its been practically impossible. I spend all my days alone and isolated because i truly feel i don't belong anywhere. Whats worse is im amazing in places but the minute i abosrb some else's ideology my world crumbles because i listen to them because i care alot for them and then it turns out they were just using me.

[@ManifestTheMusic]

Kevin Bacon is the king of invisible

[@mandolorian9893]

John Cena is right there

[@cic3000]

who?

[@sonnyzhao2309]

@@mandolorian9893 where?

[@ManifestTheMusic]

@@mandolorian9893are you sure about that

[@Not_Rui_]

@@mandolorian9893 Who is right where?

[@neondystopian]

Only to become suddenly visible when they need or want something. Funny how that works, eh?

[@Sellner82]

Have not felt "happiness" in 5 years. Not one time.

[@BigPapiLaz]

Neither have I, man.

[@benjaminwlang]

I haven't been happy since the 80's.

[@macrohotline8834]

I was born depressed but i still can feel hapiness time to time

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Damn. I mean... damn. Here I am, 38-yo self-proclaimed incel, marinating in his own deep personal failure... And even I feel happy from time to time. It might be once a month at most, but it does happen.

[@lynxhunter]

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you're gonna get better.

[@DaddyDabberino]

My last relationship I was in was really rough because of these issues. Every time I had something come up that would bother me, I would get a response like “well did you maybe consider that you feel this way because of something you did and not me?” Shit really hurt and I spent years feeling like I didn’t matter.

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

I hate people.... In general....

[@askbeats-ye]

sounds like you have bad company in general

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

@@askbeats-ye nope saw a side I didn't want to see am mostly accompanied by ghosts by the way dare to see !?

[@Efgand0894]

I don't like people in general, but stupid ones are the worst to deal with

[@merok4291]

I want to shake ur hand but then........ u get it :D

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

@@merok4291 ugh 😩😫 sack religious I understand

[@feartheghus]

From my perspective I don’t get why Dr K says we men are only allowed to feel anger using the schoolyard bully as an example. I was taught as a kid to hit back because of the simple fact that it works, in life. The teachers are unhelpful so crying for help is pointless. This isn’t some societal failing, that’s just life. You can’t negotiate with a rabid dog, you can’t ask nature to stop sending the hurricanes, you deal with problems or they fester. If the bully is just saying mean words then who gives a shit. It’s impotent, a non-threat and a non-issue. I was also taught that I can only be insulted by someone I respect. When a known liar says some untrue insult about me I don’t care, because I don’t have any need to. If a bully in the schoolyard hits you, you beat him until he submits, namely by crying like a little bitch, and call it a day, never star a fight always finish it. That’s not about anger, that’s about fixing a problem, and a physical bully is a problem who needs percussive maintenance. It’s not anger, it’s just the proper technique for the job. It’s not anger to hammer a nail, it’s just construction. It’s not anger to beat a bully until he stops being one, it’s just effective.

[@daniels7717]

You act like teachers are incapable of stoping bullying and that’s just wrong. If they were truly competent they would be able to stop it. It’s their job.

[@interneter6299]

@@daniels7717 And yet, we never see that job done.

[@mickethegoblin7167]

Dr K is full of it

[@Grimnoire]

My rationalization is that I'll start dating after I figure out myself, what I want to do, how im gonna do it. And money, I rely on other people too much to be dependable. At the same time I don't want someone tying me down when I do go venture out to achieve my goal.

[@artursmiarowski8993]

This right here is why I like Asmon. You can see from the number of pauses this is deep for him, and he shares it from the heart. I have to pause his video too, because it's deep for me too, and we can connect on this topic, even though he doesn't know me, and I don't know him besides the persona I get to see in his content. He gets to say words, and I get to listen and think about it from my life's context. And I enjoy the thoughts that he initiates with his videos because I feel I get to learn something about myself. You're much appreciated, you jerky-lovin' goblin.

[@prophetedubaroque5136]

Yeah. I'll be honest i disagree with a lot of what he is saying but he is taking it seriously and that's all i need

[@Tunda2]

My way to avoid self deletion has been to find something to look forward to that I have to see. When I start running low on those it’s harder to distract myself…..I’m super introverted though so Covid was sweet socially, getting laid off TWICE wasn’t sweet but I joined a sim racing league. Another thing to look forward to weekly

[@saltysaurus]

I'm the same man, having other people around is extremely taxing and drains my energy. I need stints of alone time.

[@moopliss]

sounds like 80% of men use the cloak and dagger spy watch. any TF2 fans out there?

[@ccoodd26]

Sprays lewd paint on wall and waits

[@qunas101]

Yeah bro, more like dead ringer

[@literofcretin]

The turtle engineers deserve voice line induced paranoia

[@mariogame_dev8004]

HS Fairy always !

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

I'm a pyro spy hunter

[@arbiter8246]

1:15 bingo!