How Many Solar Panels Do You Need To Mine Bitcoin?

[@VoskCoin]

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[@emperorox8781]

Hello vosk i tried purchasing the $299 starter kit and the shipping fee is more than half of the miner price, am in Nigeria is there any other shipping method that is cheap please let me know

[@demolishedmembrane]

Check in too if you haven't already 3d towers and bifacial cells might be to turn that 30? Something panels to 20 or less and have the same out come maybe. Idk maybe its all shit but MIT figured it out so it is possible. Idk maybe check into lenticular lens or maybe thats garbage too not sure just some interesting stuff I have found.

[@hdcomputerkeith]

need alot lol. loving solar. going green mining looks good to others and my self to lowe rthat darn eletric bill a no briner

[@renamanvelova5200]

Hey I had a question I live in a apartment building we have four floors and for some reason my management company painted the whole roof silver it actually gets really hot . Does that make a difference of how much sun it attracts. I’m not trying to do the whole mining I was just wondering why paint it silver. Also how do you think dodge coin is going to do you think it going to go up.

[@omegaweapon1980]

Buy used panels at $75-$100each, build your own ground mounts with lumber, get 14,000 watts for $5k-$6k instead of $30k-$45k.

[@26yearoldboomer7]

Alibaba

[@trangkhoa448]

I can make myself 200kw hybrid solar systems with 200kwh lifepo4 batteries at just $500 each kw . All new materials with many years warranty. These price in the USA 🇺🇸 too expensive

[@all3n1k]

@@trangkhoa448I’d love to speak with you about building a system like that, pm?

[@sunnygunz]

would it still be worth it

[@dqdq4083]

You always learn more from the comments than the actual video

[@BrianLeeWho]

I installed my own 15Kw solar system for about $20K. I could have reduced that price by using a cheaper inverter--I bought the Sol Ark 12K. When you're pricing out solar panels, if you can buy them for around $.50 per watt then that's a good price. A lot of installers want to sell the customer the high end panels--they're just not worth the price.

[@jeffwelch1238]

Yes tell me about it. I got solar last year threw a company cost me 98000 for the whole project 🙃 😒. Hoping to be able to cover most of the cost of running 4 or 5 miner's... looks like I'm going to need twice the panels I have, and I already have 56.

[@Hansen710]

the local electrician/installer wanted to sell me the same as i put up my self, for double the cost.. i would have paid double the cost for 1 days work, 10k would have been 20 k.. i even got double the battery size when i did it my self, compared to the offer from the pro installer ofcourse it have been connected by a pro, i paid 300 dollars for that that same guy actually also had some very good prices for people that wanted all the work done.. he was connected to the company that sold me the solar system, and his price to put up the whole system was under half the money as the local electrician im putting another up next month, because it ended up being so cheap in the end.. also considder how much value this adds to a house these days.. i can sell it for 3-4 times what i invested.. because few people offer houses with solar panels, and when the solar production is sold to the grid people make money by living in a house

[@abidapollo]

​@@Hansen710 educate me sir, why he's only using bitcoin? Is other crypto illegal? (never even set foot in crypto but want full tesla solar system, batteries included)

[@unixgaming6880]

my 2sats: for solar driven ASIC's it's probably more advantageous to power the units directly with the DC power from the panels/battery since converting to AC just to convert to back to DC is pretty inefficient and you're looking at a minimum 10% loss with each conversion. Additionally, it may be possible to run hashboards in series, allowing you to have a higher DC voltage, say 48VDC which means less copper for the power distribution.

[@azamroslan]

This is true for a smaller deployment. DC distribution for larger scale is extremely costly.

[@araseferian7034]

100% true! always go DC direct to the hardware when you can. you can even buy motherboards that support direct DC power

[@gemrough]

I’d be careful trying to run them in series as the capacitors are 16v…. If you have a failure and the board shorts you can overvolt all the other boards.

[@eriklippert6398]

I've been electrician for almost 30 years, just went down the rabbit hole about 4 years ago. I've been mapping out the game plan since I started. Not once did I not incorporate some sort of renewable energy to power any kind of a system that I would be building.

[@SubvertTheState]

Any particular reason? I think the appeal is spending a lot up front, and then as time goes on, the cost of each Satoshi to mine goes down. Also the electrical surveillence crap going on these days, solar would not broadcast your usage to the world.

[@flyingpanhandle]

Sounds like you need to get with the times.

[@seanvincenttt]

Sounds like you’ve done nothing. Thanks for your valueless take

[@danielbrowning238]

A year later I found something perhaps feasible... 4 s19k pro ASIC $8272. 22 ZN Shine 550w Solar Panel $3568. EG4 Power Pro Battery Unit $3421. 2 EG4 6000XP Charge Controllers $2998. A total investment of $18,259 to mine at 480TH... Bringing an average of $115.17 a day for running them 24/7... I guess around a complete ROI in 160 days... Or even if you only mine half a day... Complete ROI in a year. Not grid tied.

[@jordanjones5039]

You want to run 4 s19 miners on 22 panels and a 15kwh battery? I think you’ll need at least 2 batteries per miner and at least 22 panels per miner you have

[@Dany-nv1fj]

⁠@@jordanjones5039I would say that it is close to 31 to 38 solar panels per each mining unit

[@keithconrad4892]

Can you only run miners when sun is out? Or does miner need to be on 24/7?

[@araseferian7034]

virgina isnt the best area for solar my friend. you are much better off in an area like arizona. you need to be running off-grid as long as possible and batteries are not the answer. not only are they expensive but they have to be replaced. when you factor in weather, the ROI will be much longer. i know as I've designed and installed a few solar systems now and the ROI was always much longer than what was calculated.

[@davel4030]

Being grid tied kind of defeats some of the major benefits of solar

[@ryanbell6537]

The kicker with rate calculations.... we really don't know how much rates are going to increase in the next 5-10 years, especially with more and more states mandating EVs. There's no doubt EVs will increase electricity demand..... which will increase electricity costs. 8:54

[@Stash186]

But it is known what the increase was over the last 5-10 years was. It is also know what the effects of ESG will be on the energy markets, increasing energy consumption in China & SE Asia, planned retirement of coal plants in the US & Canada and lack of adequate grid infrastructure investment in the US. Pro Tip: Rates will rise at an exponential rate.

[@ryanbell6537]

@@Stash186 sure but with the West Coast mandating Electric Vehicles when their grid is worrisome at best, criminally and dangerously defunct at worst (Paradise California wildfire massacre), no time in history has ever been this catastrophically poised for government imposed retail mandates to outpace government neglected infrastructure.

[@SV_Sangha]

Only problem I see here… the solar numbers are using industry installer pricing, which is way too expensive. I have several sub 5k systems full cost less than two thousand including batteries. So building it yourself gives much less input cost for startups.

[@Squids-cv8xm]

I agree, Im putting in a 32kw ground mount sytem and it has cost me 50k. Solar companies averged 85k -108k lol

[@scottcarpenter6527]

You just need to live in the mountains and use hydro. I'm thinking about energy storage by pumping water into a large storage tank and use that water at night to run hydro generator and a lower storage tank.

[@ToddDesiato]

14kW would be ideal. More like 18kW, and if you want to DIY the install, it's only about $22k, not $40k. Your break-even would be 5 years. For a system 10X larger would be under $1/watt.

[@dqdq4083]

5 years to break even isn't worth it

[@EddieLopez711]

Not factoring in maintenance and storage for energy if off grid.

[@ronaldkoene3071]

Can you put a asic miner on a time switch? So they only mine when you solar panels make solarpower?

[@DCFNETWORKS]

Great question!

[@trangkhoa448]

You can use some smart plugs available to set it turn on /off daily Problems is sun 🌞 not stable. It may drops anytime when rain 🌧

[@einfachteshaz590]

little Question : in my Math you need easily double that. In the Night usually no Sun Schine. So - you need batteries and extra panels to load these foor the Night ?

[@jeffderitis1378]

Yes. You actually need to times it by 3 assuming you get 8 hrs a day sunlight. So you can guess what happens on cloudy days, rainy days, etc. In the end it isnt worth it. Btc mining is too energy dependent. You need whole solar farms to run just a few machines. Its disheartening 😔. I speak from experience, sadly.

[@MrSeany05]

I own a condo, and electricity is part of my maintenance fees. I can use as much electricity as I want, the problem is the noise. Is there any miner you recommend?

[@trenton1190]

Very very soon, electricity will no longer be part of your maintenance fees lol.

[@TrickyMickTrucking]

That ROI is like 60% less with BTC jumping up to $70k now, and if you bought preowned panels, built the infrastructure yourself, you're looking at way less than 5 year ROI.....HODL HODL HODL

[@DiegoaufTour]

I am currently building a 70kw/p system for mining and home supply. With your current bill, you must not forget that electricity prices are becoming more and more expensive, so there is no way around solar, regardless of whether it is mining or self-sufficiency. You don't need infinite solar panels, but a large memory that you can build yourself from Prisma cells and BMS.

[@Mr.Unbreakable83]

@VoskCoin: you should also consider wind turbines for your mining farm, or you could look into mini wind turbines the one's I've seen generate 5000 kwh per hour. So if you put four of those on each four panel grid you would generate 20kwh per four panel grid per day on a windy day. If you have 10 four panel grids your making 200,000 kwh on a good day. Anyway that's my idea. You do you your fan D.B.Knightshade

[@CK-wo1ly]

What if you only mined during the day ie. when the sun is out? That way you don't need a big battery.

[@TuningAlliance]

Found a setup for smaller modular 4kw solar banks. Which only cost around $1 per watt of solar, diy install of course. ROI is 2.28 years. Then you continue to profit after that on the same solar for easily another 10+ years. One bank per miner would drastically cut cost. Seems better than the actual mining in time, but decent miners is still absolutely required. I'm sure you have some spare 30 amp circuits you could feed into.

[@brianwetzel-mk6kj]

perfect video. people have a misunderstanding about how solar works.. "its about storing the energy" to run one S19 for 24 hours.. . you would have WAAAY more money invested on your solar system than a FEW S19s.... even if they were bought a year ago.....

[@dqdq4083]

Really? Can you explain more?

[@metasamsara]

What if you could run a computer with no electricity input? I feel like this will be the next big thing. Perhaps nuclear miners, or analog generators.

[@coreymoyers]

When you try to sound smart but end up doing the opposite. 😅

[@brianz2802]

Sharks with laser beams

[@bigspin69]

🙈🙈🙈

[@metasamsara]

@@coreymoyers rude and stupid

[@ddk4664]

Like a a a a a laptop

[@mybestfriend8541]

So many panels needed. Gonna need to add land costs to that for most people.

[@sdiburro1]

I want to buy a crypto miner but I want one is quiet what is the best one to get

[@thinkforyourself7010]

What do miners using solar setups do at nightitme to keep the mining machines running ?

[@cryptocustody]

Vosk, I'm building an 18kw system for less than $1/w, in the county next door to you. Don't pay retail prices, used commercial panels are cheap and mixed use AG cuts all the red tape with the county. Also, AG meters are commercial electric rates.

[@VoskCoin]

man I would love to talk shop with you... could we connect on voskcointalk?

[@cryptocustody]

@VoskCoin I joined voskcointalk and started a thread. I would love to talk, long-time sub. I have a different take on grid-tied for mining. Doing hybrid with small (cheap) battery setup. Planning on using time-of-use commercial rates. I've got everything on site and structure complete and meter installed, hoping to be done by March.

[@davidperson250]

Has anyone ever thought about the fact that solar starts with DC power, converts it to AC then your PS converts it back to DC to use? Surely there is a more efficient way to keep it DC the whole way?

[@trenton1190]

Good question. I know they make DC well pumps for solar powered wells.

[@freefall_910]

the problem will come when there is surge or there are clouds then you need battery backup and in night time as well and you can miss on potenial transection fee as well so ya it good idea in desert ares where sun sines non stop

[@t.d.5804]

Got solar and use excess for mining, works well. Cant feed into the grid, but even if I would, mining gets more per kWh. Solar panels are 11cents (€) here per Watt, really cheap. Go solar, no electricity bill for house, heatpump and cars (EVs here). Plus mining

[@nworbmada4193]

What about hho for power?

[@MikeLopez007]

Does it make more sense to purchase multiple units and send them to a HOST?

[@fuzzyharold]

Hey Vosk what’s the better purchase the L3 plus or Chia miner from Evergreen?

[@trenton1190]

Next step, find someone to sell the heat to.

[@pepeshopping]

What a great idea! All you need is to store it or transport it, right!?

[@trenton1190]

@@pepeshoppingNo. You relocate your miners, or the company needing your heat relocates to your miners.

[@seahawks1185]

Tacoma, WA we get about $0.10 average, residential and the whole state is hydroelectric. Commercial a little less, still ridiculous.

[@ogmprod]

Dope vid. Cleared up a lot of stuff I was looking for about solar power and btc mining... confirmed; expensive af

[@namannassar7658]

Solar is very complicated...for starters, which solar panel should you go with that will generate the same consistent wattage most of the time (there are many different brands and models). Which installer should you go with that will service your installation for many years to come (most of the installers I talked to were only in business for a few years, so they didn't have the answer to "Do you service panels after the 25-year manufacturer warranty?" They said, I don't know). Government is offering tax credits, but solar installers are adding that to your cost because they know you're getting a discount. For example, if you finance $100k in solar cost and you're getting $20k back on your taxes, they want you to pay it to them to take down your monthly payments. They're charging you interest for what you're getting back in taxes if you don't pay it to them, it will be as if they lend you the extra $20K and you now you have to pay interest on it. Look at this, total cost for solar is $100k so my payments are $300 per month, if I don't give them my tax return, my payments will jump to $350 per month (for example). So, the true cost of my solar should be $80K not $100K. If I give you my tax return or not my payment should be the same with an early payoff date, like making a lump sum payment. It's a numbers game just like when you go to the car dealership or when you buy an EV vehicle. Dealers and installers take the tax credit. I could be wrong, Do your own research and if you have time let me know too.

[@devinlomeli980]

Have you looked at the dor miner from constilation dag

[@mikebadey]

Bout to be starting my first mine/solar house just outside of Austin. This was super helpful

[@arbortube1561]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried thermogenerators to convert the heat energy produced as byproduct of bitcoin mining, eventually creating an energy loop?

[@t.d.5804]

Efficiency is 2-5%, so not usuable

[@eriklippert6398]

I have been wondering when you were going to get onto this subject. And I'm kind of wondering why you brothers and sisters haven't looked into this sooner. And if the wind blows in your area, why don't you incorporate some baby wind turbines?

[@johngermain5146]

Hey Drew, I like that you posted my solar charts in your video. I'm Dollyshunk and yes, I have 10kw of solar panels on my house in AZ. Isn't it great that I can generate 30kw/day in winter and 60 kw/day in summer? Great Show.

[@steelhorses2004]

what happens when the sun goes down? Is your miner running on massive battery banks?

[@johngermain5146]

@@steelhorses2004 a Grid-Tied Solar System uses and pushes excess power into the grid during sunny days and draws the excess and any more needed power from the grid at night. An off grid, battery and generator backed system (power wall) would be nice and would run 24/7

[@SuperSborka]

@@johngermain5146 bro, try to extend your roof by a mile! wahahahaha

[@ahmadabdullahitijjani]

The schedule is clear. But for some reason they didn't say a word about Crypton. It's a very stable monetary. I only mine it.

[@jeffderitis1378]

I will never try to stop a man chasing his dream. But I do feel that using Roi and anticipated formulas is a key for failure. Lesson, my machines been off now for I guess like 5-6 months. But when I got them a year before shutting them down, I never could of imagined the hashrate growth which basically destroyed any chance of living out the dream I had developed. I was making 1/20th the amount of coin I was when I first started. To kick a man when he is down the electric prices tripled and the btc price decreased almost 66%. Unless u have all your expenses laid out and in the game now, you have no chance! I am not trying to be mean, but just telling anyone willing to listen. The best scenario u can hope for is going bankrupt and getting to restructure or write off your debt while keeping everything.

[@steelhorses2004]

How are you mining when the sun goes down? Did I miss this part?

[@twentyfive2life686]

Solar battery

[@danbutorovich246]

Its easier to just run some cpu mining rigs off of solar. Lower power consumption and you don’t need as many panels.

[@austinmeyers6664]

Been waiting for this video! Super great info thanks Vosk!

[@KN-592]

6:42 😶

[@callmebigpapa]

Used panels and all in one inverters are cheap the battery bank to keep the miner running overnight is the killer in this deal. Hopefully the per KWh cost on the new Polyjule batteries will help.

[@CK-wo1ly]

What if you only mined during the day ie. when the sun is out? That way you don't need a big battery.

[@chadrat39]

It's not only about renewables. Bitcoin mining will be the evolution of data.

[@JaySoundspeed]

But I think you should have added the maintenance in solar mining. How often solar panels need maintenance within 5 years, replacement parts etc. risky

[@Hansen710]

the cost for solar panels incl battery is 2/3 of what the numbers in this video says.. so without battery it can be done for around 1/3 of what this video says where this makes no sense is it say 24 hours per day, why do that when the sun dont shine for 24 hours per day if you make it maby 12 hours per day when the sun shines it makes more sense and battery is not needed in big scale i dont agree it makes no sense in london because you need more panels: 1: the panels cost 1/3 of what this video say 2: in the northern part of the world it makes sense to oversize your solar production, so you have as much as posible in the wintertime.. so many homes have alot of waste electricity, some days they even have to pay to get rid of it and a big battery can save 50cent per kw some days in the wintertime, if you charge it when the tax and price is low on my solar a 190t miner would pay for it self in around 2 years if i sold the energy i would probetly make half the money.. but even worse i would have to keep a eye out for the days where i pay money to get rid of my production

[@VoskCoin]

share some sources and data please

[@Hansen710]

@@VoskCoin look at mikma (dk) what source do you need decides that, i guess you know the cost of the miner for example

[@Hansen710]

@@VoskCoin dont take the first offer when it comes to solar.. most installers double the price on a solar system, they put up in a day.. look at the price for the system at the cheapest place you can find, and then find a installer that will do it paid per hour or that have a good price... i have seen prices was over 100% higher with my local installer then mikma ( we have 2 big comanys in denmark that can do it cheap all over the country) and if you can do mining, you can also put up a solar system.. you only need a dude to connect it to the grid i paid 300 dollars to connct a hybrid system with mikmas installer, that i had put up my self.. that and a smart meter was the instaltion cost

[@Hansen710]

@@VoskCoin growatts old line is going out of marked, some very good offers to get from them at the moment.. if you can live with the inverter from last year

[@ulvimsiter4370]

He's so happy about the Recession coming in, like he's super excited to be witnessing it.

[@ukrainiansubarer7767]

Well, I'm not going to catch stars deploying tens of ASICs, however I'm experiencing the excessive solar production in my household, so I'm just greedy on this wasting of "clean energy"...

[@trentnorris1184]

Luckily my house had solar when I bought it and I only use on average 5kWh per day and generate around 30KWh per day and that’s with 2 gaming pc’s and a workstation server running 24/7

[@vernonnissley3767]

Solar panels? 0 New flower wind turbines that make more power for a lot cheaper cost and land. Wind is 24/7/365 in most places

[@andrebunting2222]

i thought of this.. since we i live in the caribbean... didnt do it because of the initial costing,.

[@almarketing2849]

better make a script trojan in background memory mining monero or etc

[@andreaascenzi8221]

Where do you buy an antminer officially without being scammed?

[@dougiee6589]

Nice video been waiting on your research and say about solar mining

[@Midlothian-M1]

good info video dude except for us in gray no sun uk . only one miner turns green with my electric price that’s kadena

[@etismyname]

Altcoins mining is pointlessly risky unless you sell your coins every single day.

[@chadrat39]

Every block will be harder to mine. That in itself is a buy for stocks like Nvidia who is leader in chip innovation.

[@slickstretch6391]

Seems like a solar system like that would make more profit by selling the power back to the grid.

[@barrybird5070]

700 w bifacial solar panels are available now

[@gandolfgrey5385]

Seems like solar is a giant waste when you could just rely on the grid for several bear market cycles and then have the capitol to not expand with more rigs but far more efficient panels in 8 yrs

[@djreducer]

Thought we were going to hear about “plug and play” solar options :(

[@VoskCoin]

thats on the agenda for f/u videos this year!

[@danielwoods8296]

@voskcoin Eco flow just brought out there Delta pro ultra which is scalable to a 90 kW system and the inverter output is 21,000 could be something worth looking into.

[@flyingpanhandle]

The average US home uses 32kwh a day?! I've used 24 in the last 7...

[@KN-592]

7:40 Spider-Man 3 leaked or cyberpunk 2?

[@robertbledsoe6905]

This is my idea i would love to get it fully solar panel powered

[@gyghjjgghbj3584]

Just sell your electricity gathered by your solar panels to your utility

[@WestleyPaynter]

Mining Chia is definitely possible using solar power.

[@ztnoyunda208]

Part of a very important coin been talked about in the BCL

[@LifeWisdomTV]

who the hell has 34 solar panels? thats a lot or sounds like it at least

[@bradbiondo6120]

Solar makes no sense…. I use 34,000 to 36,000 KWh per month and pay 3500-3800 per month

[@Arda-cw2ob]

Best utility so far in whole crypto space

[@frankalghul26]

Tengo una granja de 60 m21s toda la energía sale de un biodigestor

[@rarephoenix]

How many solar panels do we need to support the collective AI energy usage. It will surpass crypto mining easily. Unless we actually support large scale green energy and develop better algorithms. ❤

[@g0019c]

You need to do more research on solar electricity. If solar power is a good thing then why aren't there more people using it?? What about where how many batteries do you need and where are they stored?? I think your solar farm is a great adventure but there is the trust of crypto exchanges to deal with. So to invest $30-600k will be a hard pill to swallow.

[@mr.pringle55]

😂the "London England, which is a terrible spot to..." pause had me dying laughing, replayed it 3x.

[@upwardhacks1-qm5do]

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[@thedivergencetrader]

I'm from India and here the sun is so bright 🌞 for around 10 months in a year

[@hassanshah8823]

Luckily in my county solar is extremely cheap compared to US

[@pepeshopping]

I said it before: You have no idea of what you are talking about if you do believe you can run a BC mine solely (or even mostly) on Solar!

[@VoskCoin]

we will see,

[@rosso2017]

72kwh per day, wow!!!

[@protocolpalpatine]

why does solar cost so dam much

[@noobstars3846]

I have invested on presale, we will see I am also very confident this will be easiest 100x.

[@sandmanxo]

Any power banking to my provider is my donation to them unfortunately. I'd need too much in batteries to ever make any money.

[@sunnygunz]

Not worth it

[@luvverboy93]

I know someone that runs a solar Bitcoin mining farm.

[@seahawks1185]

Build the solar farm, and quit procrastinating.

[@seahawks1185]

Solar is gonna go up, it's at the cheapest, NOW

[@basikdunyasi1278]

always great info. thanks for sharing.

[@thedreamsoldiers]

I want solar & wind turbines on my future mine farm property. If it’s cloudy it might be windy. If it’s stagnant it might be sunny.

[@radiosnmore]

Hotspots need 15 watts 😊

[@andrewnguyen3312]

If you finance solar , your $/kwh drops by a lot

[@roberte.wilson5213]

When you do it all yourself, stay off the grid and have all your systems set to reboot when you have power. You can drastically increase productivity to cost. Battery backups are easy to install when you have the knowledge. Next stop the moon. Keeping the electric company out of my business.

[@chadrat39]

Nice info!

[@leeboss373]

4:30 up an entire 2¢ from 14-16¢ 🤣 In the U.K. it’s gone from 20p to 46p 🤬

[@KN-592]

00:07 ⚡

[@seahawks1185]

70/30 grid tied, depending on the state, policies, Trump, less regulations

[@seahawks1185]

Pallet at $0.12 a watt... convincing enough.

[@seahawks1185]

Yes we know, inverters etc are the biggest cost, not the panels.