How Medieval Jousting Tournaments Were Held- Middle Ages DOCUMENTARY

[@KingsandGenerals]

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[@shinsenshogun900]

We can be jousting in limousines these days

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I knew paradox sponsored this episode as soon as I saw the video title 😂😂

[@Mr_OogaBooga]

Ikr?

[@christopherfilip6949]

Indeed, I thought the same xd

[@s.p.q.r1]

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[@imthebmf23]

I have the mCrusaders King game and I have not played it for a while. So I have to pay for another DLC even if I bought the Royal Edition? 😅

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Yep, and then I went straight to steam to check if it was released today hahaha

[@metatronyt]

That's one gorgeous thumbnail

[@barbiquearea]

Besides modifications made to armor and shields, other equipment used in the jousts were also made safer. Among the weapons that were permitted in the tournaments included lances without points, swords without edges and maces without weight. As such many a knight who participated in these tournaments required the services of skilled smiths. In fact smiths could make a tidy profit in these games, and so in and around the tournament grounds you would have seen smiths busy hammering iron, sewing mail and dealing with clients.

[@Heisen2420]

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[@Insert-the-Name-101]

As an aspiring writer writing about a fictional medieval setting. This channel is an absolute delight and a blessing

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@@Zacharoni4085 haha, ty for that mate!

[@loods2215]

Hey everyone, I was the researcher and writer for this video. I hope you enjoyed! If you have any questions about this episode, I'd love to answer them

[@ZudinGodofWar]

What was your favorite part of the episode?

[@MunsterBeavis]

Question, if you played the new DLC what faction did you choose to play first? (To joust with)

[@mikeshogunlee]

Where there tourneys like the ones deprecated in a Knights Tale? Multi-Game events not unlike the Olympics? If so what other games where there? Specifically interested in duels on foot, if they had a specific name or something I could look up on my own.

[@calebroberts5422]

@@mikeshogunlee great question hope he answers😂

[@GordonLonghouse]

Was jousting the only sport on offer at tournaments? I recall hearing that there were other events such as sword flights.

[@Flexpdx]

These videos make the CK DLC so much more spectacular. Love you guys

[@Osvath97]

7:14 having a barrier separating the jousters was not introduced as early as the context implies, at earliest it was introduced in the 1300's but did not become truly popular all over Europe until the 1500's. This meant that early jousts had a bit more room for maneuver than the one more commonly depicted.

[@radiospace7071]

Thing I love about Ck2 and 3 is that they give the middle ages a much needed lift in color and fun

[@aliosman0]

I love it when you collaborate with Paradox

[@aaron6178]

Well done dudes! Ever since I read Ivanhoe, I've been awestruck by the joust. When I was in England, I visited Kenilworth castle. The main platform leading to the main gate was used in the 13th century for jousts. Standing there and imagining what it must have been like was exhilarating. Keep up the awesome work. History is rad.

[@jessealexander9074]

Love how the channel changes era’s everyday to keep things interesting

[@sblbate]

Just in time for the new Crusader Kings III DLC. edit: And then I watch the video and see the sponsor. Well played, Paradox.

[@Luke_Danger]

I can't help but wonder how much influence on our view of the medieval period came from the fact that jousting became a modern sport (with modern considerations like safety and formal rules) mixed with things like the Renaissance Fairs, along with I think a greater desire for absolutes. IE, the hand of the maiden going from an unofficial consequence of proving one's chivalric virtues and virility by martial prowess to being an explicit prize. Though that also might've just been Victorian "sensibilities" ignoring the agency of women and their role in the tournament as judges (IE, the winner of some forms of the melee not being the last man standing but whomever the ladies in attendance agreed had proven the most virtuous during the course of it) But it also I think makes sense that it got more dramatic in the later medieval period because that was also the period where the knightly class was losing military predominance to the first stages of the Infantry Revolution. Tournaments being grander spectacles were a chance for the knightly class to show off their importance to the crowd even if they were not as predominant as they used to be. Which also meshes with them becoming networking events - a knight's military predominance may have faded in the later periods, but their social status remained and a tournament was a great way to connect whether as being what amounts to a job application or just the prestige of victory. Heck, some rulers probably used jousts as the circuses to keep the masses entertained (which in the 1300s would be pretty important given some of the rebellions that occurred in the period) as well as ways to network with their vassals or gather up important figures and magnates to discuss matters in better terms than a formal court hearing. Not that different from the purposes of feasts (and probably why jousts were often connected to feasts to boot)

[@jozzieokes3422]

Fascinating as always!

[@walhallberserker610]

Very very interesting video thank you!

[@RoboticDragon]

Great video.

[@-RONNIE]

Good video thanks ⚔️

[@f.gabella]

When your lovely chanel is sponsored by your lovely game,what could be better🤗

[@llynhunter]

I always love your content. You give great bits of history that add to windows on the present, thank you.

[@theawesomeman9821]

I'm thinking of Heath Ledger knocking knights out while "We Will Rock You" by Queens plays in the background.

[@shinsenshogun900]

Of course everything chivalric has to be spawned in somewhere compellingly prestigious: France From Charlemagne and Lancelot, to Napoleon I and De Gaulle! On my way to kickstart a modern day melee tournament in these troubling times! Armchair and Limousine Jousts we go!

[@dueces1640]

"my horse sucks" is the 12th century version of "bro, it was lag" lol

[@robbabcock_]

Great video! ⚔🐎🙌

[@chaosfire321]

You guys always make this so enthralling to follow!

[@ulfur7584]

This is a video i didnt know i wanted but im glad you made, thanks

[@barbiquearea]

Besides individual heralds in a participating knight's retinue acting as their hype man. The tournaments themselves would often be lead by the King-at-Arms, who was the master of ceremonies and presided over all the formalities of a tournament. Their duties included making the announcements at the start of every tournament, explaining the rules of the tournament to all the knights that were participating and making them swear to uphold the rules and make fair and just conduct of themselves.

[@AmarothEng]

As a medieval reenactor (doing the 1300 Wien), it's hard for me to fathom actual mounted joust with spears, even if bluntened, in just mail armor (meaning up until the early 14th century). Mail is impervious to cuts, very (VERY) hard to be slashed through, but it can be pierced, and is not all that great at stopping the blunt impact and trauma, which is the reason why mail was always accompanied by a solid plate helmet on the battlefields, because it's very much possible to get head smashed through mail coif as if it wasn't there by the blunt force alone. So, even a bluntened lance made out of soft wood can still be very much deadly to someone wearing only mail, or in the very least capable of breaking a rib or two. Perhaps they were wearing coat of plates over the mail, especially during the tournaments, but still, that is one dangerous fun to have, even if lances are not being couched by the lance rest back during this time.

[@loods2215]

Steel plates over straight-up mail is mostly a fantasy thing, and when mail armor was still the best jousters could afford, they were definitely crazy enough to go with it.

[@doyouevenpraise189]

You Paradox Medieval videos are always the best

[@brokenbridge6316]

Interesting video

[@bryanditmerr]

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[@KingsandGenerals]

Nice!

[@MrSinclairn]

Your vid's concept of 'the herald'(8:30) is totally at odds with official English and Scottish records,as both show heralds were formally established as regular officials of the respective royal households,by the 14th-15th centuries.👍

[@raulgonzalez-lp2fi]

They missed the chance to add squires like in the mod AGOT, where you can be knighted after a period of time being squire for a knight, it gives a lot of role-playing potential. Oh well, maybe in a future update.

[@Osvath97]

2:12 tiniest feudal lords as an example of the most minor nobles? Those are the most minor of the HIGHER nobility. You have the lower nobility who did not have their own lordships, and could sometimes be completely landless.

[@richardcharay7788]

Enjoyed, thanks!

[@georgetaylor4914]

Well thank you for making our dnd sessions easier to plan

[@noobgonebad9860]

I love these 2 collabing

[@pridelander06]

*Sees a historical video about jousting* Me: Start this madness in the name of your king(s and generals)!

[@njdarda]

Partnership with Crusader King is a perfect fit.

[@neptunestylev]

Bring back jousting, bring back duels. Online chatter would sort it self out real quick like.

[@KingsandGenerals]

So... let's curb the free speech with sanctioned violence?

[@peterspatling3151]

There are in fact modern day jousting tournaments. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIHVeol7fM6ii5I

[@neptunestylev]

@@KingsandGenerals rights come with duties. It's your duty to be civil in discourse. If not, then sure one should have a right to defend their honor.

[@KingsandGenerals]

@@neptunestylev no, rights are literally inalienable. You can forsake your duty and will still have the same rights.

[@neptunestylev]

@@KingsandGenerals understood 👍🏽. My original comment was mostly tongue in cheek. At any rate I love your channel. I used to adjunct in History and your channel makes me want to get back into it. Keep up the good work sir.

[@jozzieokes3422]

Hey guys if you could joust in any any time period, what would it be?

[@jozzieokes3422]

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[@Mifune41]

Was the barefoot jouster at 6:55 a thing that actually happened?

[@wolfu597]

Interesting subject.

[@markus9998]

You should make another video about the origins of Polo.

[@peterspatling3151]

The lance rest and grapper certainly did not make jousting safer. These items are being used to deliver stronger blows, therefore it gets more dangerous '^^

[@noone4700]

All week I’ve been hating hard on this DLC, but I bought it ofc and it’s actually really fucking good. Gives me a reason to slow the game speed down and actually read half the shit in the prompts. Worth while DLC

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

I live close to one of the English tournament grounds (the land between Stamford and Warinsford (possibly Wansford)).

[@joegambitt7414]

I remember i used to play this when I was a kid, me and my friends were using or bicycles, a broom and the tap of a trash can and we do this, good memories

[@TheNinjaDC]

Ok, be honest. How many of you couldn't help but hum, *"we will rock you,"* while watching this video?

[@theromanorder]

Can u do more videos on tactics

[@niespinelr7022]

did eastern europe or the muslim kingdoms had something similar to this or was all exclusive to central and western europe

[@bruenor82]

a "how-to" for getting pureblooded next?

[@sevoo1579]

Great

[@mazenaljayousi49]

How this episode missed king henry ii of France death 😮

[@rodchallis8031]

I was keeping an eye out for that too.

[@kairyumina6407]

Later period jousts honestly sound a lot like modern conventions. Like Comic con for war criminals :)

[@Hespi.]

Tours and Tournaments is awesome. Crusader Kings 3 become Crusader Kings 3.5 :D

[@randomdude4255]

+10% morale of armies

[@pluimpje-i6z]

very very interesting and i want almost witness it by myself this rivalry in 1400,s at it,s height but i cannot with a absense of a impossible time-machine accours.

[@JPOGers]

When will part 9 of the post Caesar civil war series come out?

[@KingsandGenerals]

Working on it

[@wasfureinbua]

yeah medieval stuff :D

[@abdullahad487]

Pls make episode Mughal Empire and guried Empire

[@Trubripes]

LOL Jousting Tournaments had TAILGATES ? It's a medieval combination of football and tinder. XD

[@tatarcavalry2342]

Please upload Ottoman series you gave a too long break

[@joeuoe1998]

12th century start of tournaments may be fine for France, my ancestors took part in German ones already in the 10th century (written documents available)

[@thibaultsardet7399]

Basically French nobles and knights were of Frankish origins. The process probably started before in France too, only it started to get serious later, this what he means. When the values of chivalry were a serious thing in 11th-12th century, especially in the Duchies and Counties of Aquitaine, Burgundy, Normandy, Provence etc...

[@NFAIVIOUS]

someone's hype for the new CK III DLC 😂

[@muffinman2490]

POV you still have to wait 3hrs for the DLC

[@lerneanlion]

So the tournaments, jousting and Arthurian legends sort of functioned as propagandas of the days back then, right? After all, we all know that the knights were just an army of brutal thugs in armors on backs of horses who only paid lip services to the monarchs and the Church and can actually do whatever they pleased in their domains with no consequences whatsoever and can always lied and/or bribed their ways out of troubles with their superiors anytime because their superiors will always needed them to wage their wars. So the only reason why the knights are willing to uphold chivalry is because they are in public places such as during festivities and are under the direct eyes of their superiors.

[@alexk7973]

I think applying modern sensibilities to historic cultures has very limited success. Underlying the concept of chivalry and knighthood was the entire culture of the time period, which is very different from our own today. Most importantly, people were members of their own class to a point of almost being their own species. How you interacted with people from a different class was held to a completely different standard. Which is why the tenth son of a poor landless knight, not in line to any title whatsoever, but nevertheless being born into the class of nobility, could be a squire, potentially be knighted and take part in a tournament, where he would be measured by how he behaved around the lords and ladies of the nobility. And nobody would care how he treated the milk maid. You could be a rampaging tyrannic rapist terrifying the peasants left and right and still be the most chivalric person around if you knew to hold up standards around those of your own class. And just about the worst thing you could do was try to cross class boundaries - in either direction. i.e. trying to better your station, or marrying someone of lower rank that everyone would agree would never make anything but a fling. And the son of a rich wool merchant or even worse, of a well to do and successful peasant family (some did indeed do quite well for themselves), would never have a chance at squiring for anyone.

[@alexk7973]

so what I‘m saying is that with our modern upbringing and sensibilities, to us calling someone who only behaves well around one set of people and like a complete brute around another „chivalric“ might be the height of hypocrisy, but someone with a contemporary mindset wouldn‘t see it that way and wouldn‘t understand what we were going on about or what our problem was

[@lerneanlion]

@@alexk7973 But it's still propaganda. And that is bad, right?

[@alexk7973]

@@lerneanlion well, according to the official definition of the word propaganda (cambridge dictionary) it is the broadcasting of only part of the information with the intention of influencing people‘s opinions. In one way it probably was that, in so far as any political campaign contains propaganda to some extent. Because the tournament scene was where a lot of politics and social maneuvering happened. But if we‘re going by the colloquial understanding of the word propaganda, as in spreading falsehoods, it wouldn‘t have been. Because both the knight and the intended audience of his fellow contemporary people understood the word „chivalry“ in those ancient terms, so within the class structure. They wouldn‘t have understood it to mean „this guy is nice to old ladies, small children and dogs“, but rather „this guy knows how to speak properly, behave as befits his status (i.e. is polite to the ladies of his rank or higher, humble to his superiors and can be trusted to carry out a task he is given), is a good athlete and a good conversationalist if sat next to you at a banquet“. It is only to us current people, who have been raised with a different understanding of the word „chivalric“ that we would feel lied to, imagining ourselves as a member of the audience at one of those tournaments. Any communication happens within the framework of the common understanding of the vocabulary used by the communicating parties. And we might be using some of the same words as they did back then, but attaching a completely different meaning to it. In some ways, it is a completely different language and culture. So to understand their communications, you would first have to understand the words as they did back then. And only then can you accurately say that any speaker at that time was lying, exaggerating and spreading propaganda with the things he said to an intended audience of his contemporaries, who understood the terms and took them in the social setting that they were used. Nowadays we know that a lot of the things said by politicians in a voting campaign should be taken with a grain - or whole mountain - of salt. We understand the kind of language and tactics they use and we understand exactly the implications of the social context of „campaigning“. People in a medieval tournament‘s audience would have had a similar understanding of the occasion.

[@lerneanlion]

@@alexk7973 I know that propagandas did contain some facts. But my problem when propaganda is that they often exggarated what really happened or even having some lies added for the personal agendas of the ones who are spreading such propaganda. During the Middle Ages, it's usually during the tournaments and feasts where politics are often brought up in order to form alliances and discuss about how to spread propagandas against the enemies and to gain support of the civilians. And this is what led to the Crusades in the first place. Yes, the Seljuk Turks did causing harms to the Christians in the Middle East but they also indiscrimately harming everyone, including Muslims like them. So when the Pope heard of the plea for help from the Emperor in Constantinople at the time and also heard of the actions of the Mad Caliph in Cairo, he and his bishops exaggerated how insane Caliph al-Hakam is and even twisted the fact that the Seljuk Turks indiscriminately attacked everyone to just harassing Christian pilgrims in the Middle East.

[@ozgurceltikci9106]

5:55 Sounds like a natural progression from a millennium ago when Roman ladies of noble houses soaking themselves in gladiator sweat...

[@desertfox2117]

Templar when?

[@andreiyy]

I may just be imagining it but there seems to be a lot of alliteration in this episode

[@duke0fmarlborough]

This is how you do sponsored content.

[@willgibbons1733]

I think they used to host tournaments in Smithfield, London. I'm not 100 percent sure though. If anyone knows any actual locations in UK I'd appreciate it greatly.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

In 1194, Richard I, ever eager to raise funds for his forthcoming crusade, licensed five new sites as places for tournaments. These were: between Salisbury and Wilton in Wiltshire; between Warwick and Kenilworth in Warwickshire; between Blyth and Tickhill in Nottinghamshire; between Stamford (Lincs) and an unknown place called Warinford (possibly Wansford). The last was between Brackley and Mixbury in Northamptonshire.

[@willgibbons1733]

​@@neiloflongbeck5705 thank you

[@willgibbons1733]

​@@neiloflongbeck5705 I'll have to look further into these locations.

[@davebowman9000]

*Clacks coconuts together in imitation of a horse's advance*

[@denniscleary7580]

Anyone here watch full metal jousting when they had it airing on history? Not a bad show, and I always wanted a set of that armor 👍🫡

[@adidnac]

Main requirements of becoming a knight: being the 3rd son of some local ruler

[@vitorpereira9515]

During the Sassanid era, Iranian nobles held joistings. There are even pieces with illustrations of Iranian knights in disputes.

[@shinsenshogun900]

Based Aswaran cataphracts. No wonder the Roman Empire were in a great military anarchy

[@FordyTheConeSmoker]

Still waiting to find out how the Mongols were involved in the creation of Sir Lancelot 🤔

[@jackson857]

If you want to see a cool joust watch Episode 1 of House of the Dragon.

[@theawesomeman9821]

or "A Knight's Tale" which features Heath Ledger

[@MrQdiddy85]

So basically they were playing capture the flag years before call of duty

[@ИванИванов-я8к9щ]

So, Sims from Paradox.

[@Lel1255]

i swear the god befor even started video I was know is sponsored by paradox

[@bigsarge2085]

✌️

[@coleman_trebor0]

Jousting is real? I always thought it only existed in media

[@shinsenshogun900]

Now imagine if the ancient Persians, Greeks, Celts, Romans, Germans, & Huns enjoyed jousts

[@miguelpadeiro762]

The media tends to shit on the middle ages rather than romanticize it by this point tbh, recycling stereotypes created in the renaissance and mirroed in the victorian age as to portray their age as "enlightened" and the past "middle age" as a dark age of misery

[@miguelpadeiro762]

​@@shinsenshogun900Isn't joust a medieval thing? Greeks enjoyed more direct displays of physical prowess rather than pompous jousts and the Romans had the arenas and hippodromes, no?

[@shinsenshogun900]

@@miguelpadeiro762 right, because throughout history they don’t seem to have reciprocated well with sports that involve mounted cavalry duels to compete with circus and game sports, even if in certain times where they peaked as empires they never have formed up such an earlier rendition of jousts simply because of technology and societal norms to form such an iconic contest game of the medieval age

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

@@shinsenshogun900in ancient times Gladiator events and Chariot battles were the hype. The highest paid sports player ever documented was a early Byzantine Charioteer

[@gamerfound1033]

when is the next rise of the Ottoman empire coming up

[@mohamad5762]

fun

[@rhysdbooth]

MY LORD ULRIC VON LICHTENSTEIN!!!

[@newtopokemon]

L❤ve it 👏🐎🐴

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[@smpk9667]

An actual relevant sponsor segment? Pretty sure thats against the rules :)

[@aegystierone8505]

Modern "jousting" still exists, they're called "fights".....i.e. UFC, Professional Boxing, jujitsu, wrestling..... 😃

[@cekoforbidden9317]

You loved jousting tournament until your heir joined it..

[@elshebactm6769]

🗿👍🏿

[@imanrahimi1739]

Knight and knighthood began from Iran during Sassanian era. ❤🤍💚. 💜💛

[@markusskram4181]

:)

[@khusugten3773]

Mongols: this is a child’s play cute 😆

[@thibaultsardet7399]

It was also to temper the ardor of the knights, and to enrich themselves during periods of "peace".

[@darthsidius9631]

Why do you sound like ancient Greek?

[@romanbarna1316]

10:24 The intent behind this rule is most likely to discourage knights from attacking the opponent's horse, and rather focus on the knight.

[@markusskram4181]

:)