How Midi Works Tutorials- Midi Ports & Daisy Chaining (Updated version available)

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[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

A new Walk-Through/Video Manual for Motu's Midi Express XT (Midi Patchbay)....kzbin.info/www/bejne/omrOp3x3fMSpj6c

[@begorraimirish]

The best part of this video are the links at the end that cover up just the thing I needed to see.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

That end screen is the link to the new video with more and better info though!

[@chigozieobialor1245]

This is an amazing tutorial,I have learnt something new,thanks for your efforts!

[@rhysmop]

So glad I found this vid. Very well explained thank you!

[@guiterry]

Thanks for posting! I've been trying to figure out how to connect two guitar signal processors, and your video got the job done!!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

+guiterry glad to help. Check out the updated video for few more tips if you like.

[@Exhilarare]

Great presentation, thanks for answering questions I definitely would have asked if this was in a lesson. Thanks a lot!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Here's the link to the NEW and improved version of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqSZY3qJlrVoZ6M

[@JamesDory]

Tutorials For KORG Arranger Keyboards thx you.

[@britesynth]

Thank you! Just what I needed, 2 controllers to 1 module

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

There's also a new updated video in case if you need more info.

[@Modi878]

This is the best explanation , thank you very much

[@elizabethruiz3475]

Thank you ! Very helpful in studying for my Music Praxis.

[@noelpatrick5074]

Fantastic tutorial,,,, explaining the absolute requirements,,,,

[@newgame909]

YOU. ARE. AWESOME! This is exactly the kind of explanation I needed!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Glad to be of help. Make sure to check out the updated version as well.

[@Mr3mos]

this was so useful! thanks so much!

[@zariisofficial]

Excellent video!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Thanks. You might also want to check out the updated version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqSZY3qJlrVoZ6M

[@blindpink]

Super vid, very informative

[@KoolteethDeBlog]

Thx! Good speed to read.

[@Mark_Page_MTB]

Massive help. Thanks :)

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Thank you Mark...Don't forget to check the updated version here: kzbin.info/door/l207GzD8x8RBTKyk1fFVEA

[@KBN102]

Thank you so much!!

[@sergeyvikulov2622]

Thank you very much!!!

[@nsera9462]

Hi, thanks for putting this together. Very helpful. Just one question, do I need to assign a midi channel to each of the slave devices? Does the master also need to be set to a midi channel?

[@anthonyhewitt9397]

wow thankyou for this VERY DIRECT AND SO SWEETLY TO THE POINT. redic how flooded youtube is with idiot videos with guys tht like the sound of their own voice

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Thank you Anthony. Glad you liked the video. Make sure to check out the updated version. It has much better graphics and explanation.

[@mixtapemania6769]

so how do you set up midi to where you can actually send audio from the midi keyboard to your computer and hear it on the computer?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Through "Audio" cables. Your keyboard's output (Main L & R) need to be connected to audio inputs which normally don't exist on a computer. You would need some kind of Audio interface with Audio inputs.

[@spoonyeti]

One way midi is well explained here, thanks! But what about hearing midi messages recorded in daw? In my case the chain is: midi contrôler OUT to Midi module IN midi module THRU to audiointerface midi IN= works fine Logically the midi return (hearing audio after recording) should be: midi audio interface OUT to midi module IN, but my controller is already plugged there !! ( ending with midi contrôler IN is not working maybe because it's empty of sound ) Music so great when machines is saving time !!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Hi spoonyeti....Please check out the updated version of this video . One way and two way connections are explained and demonstrated better in the new video. If that didn't answer your question, let me know under the new video, and we'll figure it out. Here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqSZY3qJlrVoZ6M

[@unknownman598]

Please help me I made a midi connection with Korg Pa800 keyboard for Yamaha Tyros 2 but I know it has settings inside the keyboard how can we do these settings?

[@RamytRamyt]

Hi there! really loved your tutorial. Thank you for this. I had a few questions though. If I want my midi controller keyboard to control my DAW as well as my outboard gear, how should I hook it all up? Should I: A) Connect the midi keyboard to the computer via USB, then have computer hooked up to midi-sport 4x4 interface via USB, which goes out to the different midi synths? B) Connect the midi keyboard to computer via USB ... AND midi out to midi sport 4x4, which then goes out to the midi inputs on the synths?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Hi Ramy....How are you going to be using those outboard gear though? Are you just gonna use them as traditional sound modules?

[@RamytRamyt]

Yes. All the synths will be connected to an Allen & Heath mixing board.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

In that case I would do it this way: Controller --> Computer (DAW) --> Midi Box ---> Outboard Synths (With this set up your DAW pretty much echos the incoming data back into the midi box and from there you'll send the data into the synths). Other alternatives: Controller --> Midi Box --> Computer --> Midi Box --> Synth 1 --> Midi Box --> Synth 2 I haven't looked at the midi patch bay specs that you have, but in general this could be an option as well. Or you can go : Controller --> Midi Box --> Computer --> Midi Box --> Synth 1 --> Synth 2 The good thing about the first alternative is that you may experience less latency.

[@RamytRamyt]

Cheers! Thanks for this. I have quite a few synths (don't ask why I'm only setting them up now after owning a collection for years), so I'll probably end up daisy chaining them out of the box via the different channels. That said, I'm thinking the first option is best so deal with the least latency. Really appreciate your help!

[@luxtwice1840]

tks for the video, very helpful. Now mine is a bit complicated i need help in setting it up. I have a Korg volca sample, it only has a midi in! no midi out. But I would like to play my volca throught the midi controller keyboard . I also have my audio interface: my midi cable is in the Midi in of my Volca, and midi Out of my keyboard which is plugged into the computer via USB. I also have a Y jack that goes from my volca to my audio card which enabled me to record audio on my audio track in Logic Pro X. But I want to record midi notes now and here's what's happening with my current setup when I try:

[@luxtwice1840]

sidenotes: there are 10 parts in the volca that can contain a sample, but each have their own midi channels; * I have midi in and out on my sound card, but nothing plugged to it. --1- External Instrument Track created in Logic specs: Midi Destinaiton: controller keyboard (akaimpk49) port 2/ Midi Channel: I have a choice of 1 to 10, each channel plays a corresponding sample (*choosing ALL doesnt do anything) therefore if I create a song with the volca, I have to do switch midi channel for every track to hear a different sample//// input: In the list I have a choice of (1-2) only, but i selected nothing. ---2- when I press record, it only records the midi data but as long as my volca is powered on, I will hear the sound, if it's not on, there is no sound. ----3- sidenote: I have been able to sync my computer with the volca so that when I press play, the track and the volca is playing on my computer. now it how can I record the sound coming out of the volca through midi without having to power it on?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Hi Lux Twice....Please copy/paste this question under the updated version of this video. I'm sure this could also help others as well....and we'll take it from there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqSZY3qJlrVoZ6M

[@petersinol]

My electronic drum module has midi in/out. No thru. Same in my bassline synth. I also want to have midi keyboard or two to play live with band. My interface has also midi in/out. I want to play and record everything simultaneously with midi for future edits. Thanks

[@kobalt77]

Thank you ............... would have liked to see how the MIDI patchbay was set up tho ;)

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Good idea!

[@RamytRamyt]

Agreed!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

@Dub Siren ....here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omrOp3x3fMSpj6c

[@3miliangui]

Hello there! I have been using Korg sequencer to edit midi files and write my own arrangements. At first on PA80 (sold) and later on KorgPAx3. Now, due to pandemic, I have to sell my PAx3 and since, I was looking for a software or daw similar with KORG sequencer that I use to know and work verry nice with. I mean, interface, graphic, sounds selection, maybe styles that I used to have for my midis. I know that are a lot of DAW-s outhere, I have licensed Studio One from my Presonus mixer, tried Cubase a little, but call me stupid, it is hard for me after 20 years of work with keyboard sequencers to jump in DAW and master it, the way I use to do with PA3x... And really seems to me much complicated and time consuming workflow. I play guitar and sing with backing tracks, so I only create midis and after that mp3, the PAx3 made this easy. No interest and no time to produce other things or play around. So, my question is there a software with similar interface and capabilities as the one on KORG PA3x? Thanks for any sugestions one may have! And please pardon me if I am offtopic, but I have been searching everywhere and the internet is flodded with the same daw tutorials I don't handle. Thanks again!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Hi Emilian. Personally, I've never used a 'arranger' type of software at all. Though on Korg Forums I've seen a number of users talking about 'Band In A Box' software. I think you can use it to program backing tracks and things of that nature. It's definitely not a DAW. I don't think a standard DAW would have auto accompaniment features for their sequencers.

[@3miliangui]

@@KorgKeyboardTutorial Thank you for your answer! I will try that one to see if suitable for my needs.

[@soma6633]

Thaks, great video! I still have a question tho. Let's say I have a computer/daw and 3 synths, I'm trying to set up for a liveset: I decide use my computer/daw as master and want to send DIFFERENT MIDI messages to each synth at the same time ( I want synth A to do an arp. 8bars, synth b a simple 4 note melody...) What do I need?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

You can either go direct or daisy chain. What are your connector types for each synth?

[@soma6633]

If I don’t misunderstand what a connector is they are MIDI IN. But if I make the daisy chain wouldn’t it be the same MIDI signal for every synth?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

It’ll be more work because you would have to set every keyboard to s different midi channel. The easiest most straightforward approach would be to go direct. If you have a midi interface with 3 Midi-out, you could connect each keyboard directly. If that’s not an option, you could use a midi to USB type of connector (such as M-Audio UNO) to connect each device to a USB port. that means you have to have 3 available USB ports. MOTU makes a number of affordable midi patch bays. I have the MOTU XT. It has 8 midi In and 8 midi Outs. I even have s full walkthrough video on my other channel

[@soma6633]

That's what I was looking for! Thanks

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

@@soma6633 If you're thinking about adding midi devices down the road, I strongly suggest a midi patchbay. If not, then this direct usb connection should totally work. I've done it many times. Once you make that connection, you'll be able to select the proper midi device for the output of each midi track. In other words, you'll be able to decide which midi track triggers which synth. You can even try a powered usb hub, but I'm not sure if bandwidth becomes an issue.

[@DarthDiegous11]

Hola! Tengo una pregunta sobre este tema, utilizando la misma cadena del ejemplo (3 sintetizadores), se puede tocar el Synth B y que suene en el Synth C, de esa misma forma? O el Midi Thru imposibilita la salida de mensajes midi de ese sintetizador?

[@liquidsnake72chaos]

Yes

[@DuByP]

And if I only have one synth?

[@dejankotaranin3294]

Man I am struggling with this midi in out through. Please assist if you can. I use pro tools LE on windows 7 and I just got my self digi 002 rack . Not sure whats the best way to get all my stuff hooked up properly. I have akai MPK249 controller, novation ultranova synth and micro korg. Microkorg has nice sounds but keys are having huge latency I have all the cables needed but not really sure how to get ot all going ? I would like it all to be connected with midi but would like to utilize my korg and ultra nova sounds as well via midi.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Let's figure out the order first. You have: Akai MPK249 , Novation Ultranova and Micro Korg.......So you don't want to actually use the keybed on Micro Korg, but what about Ultranova?

[@ennoschell46]

I have a microkorg on which i have some sounds that i want to use in my music. the only problem is that i would like to send my sounds with the midi to my computer. is there a way to make this possible?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

So you want to send midi data from the computer and get the audio back into the DAW?

[@JamesDory]

Can you make a diagram that show 6 Korg Krome that Yanni make them sound at once time he touched on 1 keyboard. How would he map them?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

He would probably use a midi patch bay. He wouldn't daisychain 6 midi devices. That's too long of a chain for live performance, as the latency would be too great.

[@ahmedmokhtar1718]

Own the korgm3. . And use it with KLEFAR AK PRO to use an oriental program ... it is connected by midi in ... now i want to use midi keaboard with korgm3 .. how can i use it note that midi in for korgm3 is used for SCALE TUNING CONVERTER

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Let me see if I got this right. You have 2 keyboards....a Korg M3 and a midi controller. The midi IN port of Korg M3 is already taken because it's connected to a scale converter box. At the same time you want to use a midi controller to control the M3? This is not going to be possible with this set up. You would probably need an additional midi patchbay where everything is going to get plugged into.

[@DuByP]

My synth is a yamaha psr-48.. Cheap,old, i know but thats what i can afford. So, what do i do now? How do i connect it with my pc? Ps. it only has a midi in and a midi out port. 5 keys each.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Well, if your keyboard has a midi over USB connection then you can connect it to the computer directly, but if it only has the traditional 5 pin jack...you could either get an audio/midi interface or buy one of those midi to USB cables. If you' don't care about recording audio, then just get a midi to USB cable.

[@taklugaming6032]

brilliant!

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

You might want to check out the updated link as well.

[@Fghjk-hs9zd]

Im confused , im a guitarist How about exporting midi files with vst synth sounds you've assigned? Every time i export my midi it doesn't have a synth sounds just a piano sounds, is that possible? I only use audio interface , ezkeys and ezdrummer

[@dirtyvice7975]

midi is data only! if u want to hear the synth you've assigned you have to export the track as audio - midi will trigger any synth its assigned to :)

[@Fghjk-hs9zd]

Thanks 😊😊😊

[@supercommando440]

I still dont get it...Is it possible to connect a Roland jdxi to a matrixbrute, so they are synced? If so, how? I assume midi is the answer. I want to use the sequencer on the jdxi so I can layer/playback multiple patterns, like, drums (jdxi) with another track being the matrixbrute sounds (and include the jdxi's digital synth tracks if possible). I have both systems but have no idea what kind of connections I can make between the two. One thing I know for sure; I want to use the jdxi's multi-track sequencer but I want one of the tracks to be the matrixbrute sounds. But midi doesnt transfer sound!! I dont get it. Maybe what I want to do isnt possible? I'll never understand why there are so many analog synths that have ONE-track step sequencers... Multiple tracks can expand the possiblities massively. This is the main reason I bought the Roland jdxi; 4 track, 16 step sequencing! The jdxi uses a different channel (fixed) for each of its tracks. I assume I just need to set the midi channel on the brute to match one of the channels on the jdxi. But not sure which midi in/outs need to be connected on either device and any other settings that need to be adjusted. I just want all the crazy sounds I create on the brute to be sent to one of the jdxi's channel, where I can then play it back on the jdxi sequencer, while overlaying the 3 other jdxi tracks. I have no idea how this works but I have an idea how I want it to work. Ideally I just wish the matrixbrute had the 4-channel sequencing like the Roland has. Then can actually create 4 track sound patches.... actual songs with background layer, drum, bass and a 4th layer. Matrixbrutes 1 track sequencer doesnt cut it for me but I got it anyways because what I want to do must be possible, I HOPE.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Well if you want to know about midi and midi signal flow, this is a much better video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqSZY3qJlrVoZ6M Midi does not carry audio at all. Once you get past the midi connections and get the synths to do what it is you want them to do, then the next stage would be to worry about handling and managing the audio output of all devices in the chain.

[@supercommando440]

Tutorials for Midi & KORG Arranger Keyboards So is it possible to run the audio signal from one synth "A", into another "B", and apply "B" synths effects to the incoming "A" audio signal. I thought this was called "modulation". Most youtube vids dont go into how the devices connect.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

The answer for this has nothing to do with midi at all. This is a very gear specific question that only relates to whatever Synth B you're using. In any case if your Synth B has 'AUDIO INPUT JACKS' , you would need to connect the audio out jacks of synth A to audio in jacks of Synth B. Now AUDIO signal of synth A should travel through Synth B. As far as adding effects to the incoming signal, each device has its own routing matrix. For that you would have to find a video that uses that particular synth.

[@supercommando440]

OK did the A to B (audio in to audio out) with a few different cases. A (roland jdxi) to B (MicroKorg)... works as you described. The roland signal just travels to the Korg and out it's speaker. Perfect. I did the same thing with A (roland jdxi) to B (MatrixBrute) and it doesn't work at all because, according to what Arturia told me, their "Audio In" doesn't work this way. Pretty LAME. When I did that setup, every key on Roland would play the same MatrixBrute note. So Audio IN on a MatrixBrute is not what you'd expect.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

So how does the Audio In on a MaxtrixBrute work then? Is it just a pass-thru? You can't add any native Arturia effects to those inputs? How is this possible?

[@kisho2679]

no need to prevent jitter, like with "E-RM Multiclock"?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

This video is not about midi jitter. I'm not sure what exactly your question is.

[@kisho2679]

@@KorgKeyboardTutorial i mean this for example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gV6mn3eei7NkjNE. jitter is usually an issue when syncing several midi devices (especially wiht daisy chaining

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

I understand but that’s a different topic. The purpose of this video is to show the connector types and signal flow.

[@TheEighthAct]

what do I do if i only have one USB B port on one of my controllers?

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

What is your controller and what it is you're trying to do?

[@TheEighthAct]

Tutorials for Midi & KORG Arranger Keyboards I have a nektar lx25 and I want to use it to trigger sounds from my laptop but also be connected to a second keyboard

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

No physical audio/midi interface in between? Just two keyboards and a computer?

[@TheEighthAct]

Tutorials for Midi & KORG Arranger Keyboards the second keyboard has midi but the nektar does not

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

If you're not planning on getting a midi patch bay, the only way would be to daisy chain the set up this way: Midi Controller --> Korg Keyboard --> Computer This way you can control Korg and at the same time send the midi data out to the computer. In fact....with this set up, it won't make much sense to even use the controller, because you can just use the Korg keyboard as your master.

[@yams900]

Where's the sound ? I don't like these silent movies :(

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqSZY3qJlrVoZ6M

[@PASINC]

Visually challenged. Please add audio narratives.

[@KorgKeyboardTutorial]

But I already did that 2 years ago. Please check the description.

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