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[@Mrwhosetheboss]

A few updates after having seen the response to this video: 1. From the feedback I've gotten, Pokemon Unite is one of the less malicious Free-to-Play games in this genre. I still stand by the fact that it employs manipulative strategies to earn more from players, but in hindsight there were a few things I could have done to save me spending quite as much as I did. That said, I don't want this to take away from the key message of the video, which still stands and is still incredibly important. 2. Most of the shots in the video and screen recordings were sourced by my editor on my editors account, and so are more to demonstrate the points being made, as opposed to being representative of my own gameplay. 3. I've been informed that it is currently possible to upgrade an item to level 30 without paying real money in Pokemon Unite - this hasn't always been the case and isn't made clear to the player - it seems to be a limited time thing - but nonetheless an oversight on my part! 4. I am completely happy to admit that I am far from the best Pokemon Unite player. That said, while it is true that people with more skill can certainly get away with paying less, for the vast majority of the player base, paying is still the key legitimate way to make progress.

[@korlane4943]

I have actually, by pokemon unite as well

[@DonutDancerYT]

hi

[@DonutDancerYT]

yes

[@MilkInGeneral]

Yass

[@Hakuri69]

yes genshin impact it was so addictive glad i left it without wasting a single penny

[@Contiingency]

You would NEVER expect a channel this big to go this HARD and effectively side with the consumer on such a personal level. You are very genuine. Thank you for what you do!

[@abhishh_ek]

Bruh how did this guy get a heart? The video is 22 mins long and was posted 4 mins ago.. OP didn't even watch the video 💀

[@VortyxZero]

Well said

[@Contiingency]

@@abhishh_ek He started out by dissing some of the biggest names in terms of sponsors and anti consumerist practices. I didn't need the whole story to know where this was going, although I was going to watch the whole thing. Not very hard to comprehend, you know.

[@Oliverthisweek]

he should do a meet and greet in nottingham city centre

[@minbcraft]

To be fair to the game you don't need those holowears (the fancy costumes for your Pokemon) to play the game. They don't boost any of your stats or affect gameplay in any way. Also once you obtain those level 20+ items you are pretty set because the game is actually quite skill based. I have been playing the game for about a year now and so far I spent only 9 dollars for the holowears in the battle pass (never once spent them buying the item enhancers), and I have gotten the "Master" rank (the highest rank tier in the game) for 4 out of 6 seasons now. Granted I am not saying the system is in any way a good system, but it's not as bad as it seems.

[@randomteenwithwifi8151]

Whoa as a kid I honestly thought those energy bar things that run out when you play, is to make sure no kid can spend too much time on the game and go outside to socialize 💀

[@aris6001]

Same, I always thought that too, thank god I did though so I didn't waste any of my pocket money on them.

[@ramiztudio3208]

Dude same. I remember wanting to tell my mom that i wont be wasting my time because there's an energy bar system in this game (i forgot the name but it was a racing game)

[@dhruvavikas1632]

i used to just adjust the clock

[@galaxray8700]

It's a double edged sword and the other edge is really sharp.👀

[@M1551NGN0]

@@ramiztudio3208 need for Speed no limits?

[@penguincraft100]

Normally when a game bombards me/spams me with in app purchases, I just uninstall the game.

[@ThePeevedMoose]

same, but i just dont play it, I'm too lazy to uninstall.

[@ineophobe]

same

[@Anas-fu6mo]

Bro Don't listen to him He's a noob I literally play the game about 2 yrs ago and still didn't pay a single dollar on it Also the held items just needs to be lvl 20 not 30 to be good

[@sayanbanerjee4896]

Agreed played it since it released have almost every pokemon have every held item at 30 no money paid

[@verti3213]

@Anas-fu6mo, As a kid you have no money to spend either way lol.

[@billyork6017]

It's not just mobile games - so many apps have embraced this business model. From dating apps to language learning apps - it's the same techniques over and over again. They don't set out to deliver what the app promises - be that teaching you Japanese to finding a partner - they just want you to pay.

[@5alpha23]

I read that with a genuine Arun voice in my head - his inflections sure rubbed off onto your post there.

[@ineophobe]

this comment is like dlc to the video

[@ibbsterneo]

I already knew this, but when I was a child I was playing a game on my fathers mobile, I saw all the offers in the shop and all the great rewards, and i realized that my dad probably has money on his phone, so I bought 2 of the offers. When my dad came back home, he wasn't mad, instead he taught me about what this video is teaching. I've never spent money on any in-game purchases since.

[@tadzhiks]

Your dad is a smart person. Good for you.

[@Qwty163]

That’s a good father figure to look up to, I know a lot of dads that would just loose their shit and start punishing their child.

[@Puss_pog]

Your dad is a legend Most wouldn't know why there kids do that and think it's them been dumb While in reality the dev try to use every single trick in the book to make them buy

[@nextgeneration6898]

Such a great dad

[@Lucid_high09]

Based dad

[@zeroknight2718]

As a Pokemon Unite player I agree that the monetization is some of the worst things about the game, but the game is not pay to win, it's pray to win. As in pray that the trolls, afk and clueless players are on the enemy team instead of your team XD

[@sri_harsha_dv]

+1

[@GaganTyagi2000]

Same

[@pontoancora]

Is pay to win faster

[@mohammediftiqar1180]

Totally!! 😂😂

[@DHAIVAT-ALLCAPSWHENSPELLED]

Totally agree, game is really fun. Only downside I see is as you mentioned the afk or clueless players otherwise this game is one of my favourites X.

[@mrmellow5484]

This makes a whole lot of sense. Although for Pokémon Unite I was able to climb to the highest rank in the game within just a month of playing. I'm not entirely sure if it was just luck or the bad matchmaking in the game that helped me but I never felt the urge to make any purchases in this game.

[@lumi_project]

im pretty sure you are a decent player, the actual game requires skill not buff item

[@itsmetater]

Your comment entirely makes sense, it is a skill based game (outside of the truly broken champions that everyone hates, *cough* mewtwo *cough* ) You absolutely don't need to pay exorbitant amounts of money to win, I've been playing since release and have only paid for cosmetics. The held item levels really don't matter when you first start playing because over time you earn aeos tickets and item enhancers naturally, plus the three free max grade cards. Tl:dr, not pay to win.

[@gregoryadams7930]

Cap

[@turtleboy1425]

Yeah true pokemon unite isn't p2w it's just a skill issue if u lose 💀

[@peterhansen5804]

And they even earn so much that they can pay agents that discredit people who criticise the game - as an example, see the other replies to mrmellows' comment.

[@indigenoustruthspeaker3129]

Remember that crawling machine that we always wanted to get a plushie and then we realize it's always been rigged

[@javiermartinezrossi8957]

I miss when you could just buy a game, enjoy a good story, and that was it

[@avedinamling8320]

You still can. Just stay away from mobile games, free to play games, and live service games.

[@Pestigirioso]

@@avedinamling8320 Actually, he can play a few mobile ports, as Dead Cells (only "extra" pays are the expansion DLCs), Stardew Valley, and many more.

[@VavrMar]

@@Pestigirioso DLC is not really comparable to this practice. You still get fair value (or you don't if reviews are bad)

[@VavrMar]

Well unfortunately whole world goes to subscription. Its a plague of today's world.

[@jaredjohnson5271]

Kinda like skylanders

[@Nanagos]

This moment, when you don't play the game, but the game plays you.

[@wolf1066]

This has an "In Soviet Russia" vibe to it. "In the west, you play games. In Soviet Russia, the games play you!"

[@delusional-ibra]

@@wolf1066 make sense

[@grandtobyshorts4213]

😢

[@TomCruz54321]

Holy crap this is a casino disguised as a video game.

[@Rulivigance]

average mobile experience

[@ratankapur7791]

that is why i only play chess

[@yaboykrishvanth]

Lol😂

[@Daniel-tq2re]

Same

[@user-jp6bi1vm1i]

chess gang W

[@i_like_Peanuts]

Wait you're telling me that you don't pay for the premium version where you can bribe the other person's king to surrender??

[@supremoB]

​@@i_like_Peanuts I do that, I sped 10 grand bribing every king to surrender

[@izaanhafid]

bro just removed his chance of any game companies wanting him to sponsor their game

[@kofiAnkraAsareAttrams]

This is why I’ve gone back to play ‘retro’ games and avoid online gaming as much as I can. If I want to play games on my phone, I use emulators and just play classic games I loved growing up.

[@nauikunart]

likewise bro

[@familyguyfunnys5620]

What emulators do you use and how? Id love to play retro games on my phone

[@unknownboi9496]

Ya me to i am play psp and 2ds games i never played because of p2w games like free fire shits stuff

[@AtibaShaikh8]

I do retro gaming on my computer, but on my phone I actually go with one time purchase games. They can be more expensive upfront, but once I buy it I own it without restrictions

[@avasyubiswal5421]

all hail sonic the hedgehog

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

I played Unite on my Switch when it was first released. I never spend any real money, I ground out everything and leveled up everything. There is an amount of strategy involved in knowing each Pokémon's skills and abilities. Like I said, I never spent a single cent on the game, and I would still destroy people who clearly spent money on Pokémon and extra tidbits. This was of course when the game came out, so I don't know how much it has changed since then.

[@kieranbennett7453]

They added a lot more inclusivity, with multiple new player bonuses and more free things at the start (such as the power to make three of your items fully levelled instantly). If you take advantage of those and still lose, you realise that maybe you’re not playing the game right and its about how you play. The game is actively putting you in a position where you dont feel like you are monetarily behind and that its not about that at all, its actually how good you are as a player.

[@Snow-xd4rv]

Hasn't changed that much. What he said was false

[@user-rx6jv5ye9o]

You didnt upgrade leftover didya?

[@danialhariz619]

@@user-rx6jv5ye9o the one of the useless held item in the game?nah

[@SoulHydron]

yeah your experience is the usual. He prob just got rekt by real players after feeling good against bots

[@vignesh306]

Someone tell this man about gacha games

[@ethstring]

There’s a mobile game I play, where there always seems to be some kind of special offer. There’s a banner that says *16 HOURS LEFT!* , the next day it says something like *18 HOURS LEFT!*

[@respiratoryfailure3780]

As someone who foolishly spent money in genshin impact, I felt this on a spiritual level.

[@nityaagarwal2408]

I think someone here has lost their 50/50 on Qiqi💀💀💀

[@fatokiolusolaosfeam1584]

🤣🤣🤣

[@randomguy15865]

gayshit impact? lol

[@chrisleequadros1809]

😂😂😂

[@turonafterdark4027]

Same same, remembering the total I've spent I'm glad I stopped spending beginning this year 😢😢

[@NZOMV]

I'm guessing Arun isn't sponsored by Raid Shadowlegends.

[@alphalancegaming1564]

Probably the only youtuber 🤣🤣

[@brei.z]

I KNOW RIGHT!!! Was literally thinking that's gotta annoying all the youtubers that are sponsored by them.. So good of Arun to expose these shady tactics. Had a fair idea about it but this explained it all so well. Reminded me of the one time I ever went through a phase.. thought it was a bit different but clearly followed these tactics.

[@brei.z]

also, can see why they have the money to sponsor every youtuber.. assume it's well worth the add money to have popular creators push your addictive ...products

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

He doesn’t need too, he has 12 million subscribers

[@brei.z]

@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Hacksmith has that many subs and advertises Raid so....... whilst you're right, Arun does have 12 Million subs and does not 'need' too.. that same argument could be made about others, who still do it..

[@brunotriay2309]

Man, this is an awesomely detailed explanation of how FTP mobile games work. Alot of what you say clicked heavily with me when I've fallen pray of these practices. Great vid, thank you.

[@ibje01]

you know this wasnt even made a mobile game its a switch game ported to mobile

[@brunotriay2309]

@@ibje01 idk, the practices described are on point with mobile games

[@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788]

Terrible pick for a P2W game tho, he couldn't even be bothered to look for a guide instead of asuming he hadn't spent enough

[@therunawaykid6523]

Yeah if a game is free to play I will do just as it says play it for free I’m not giving them money, as long as I can enjoy the game I’m happy

[@manoi8]

"760 dollars just for max enhance!?" People who pay 1000 dollars just for a PNG waifu: "that's cheap!"

[@jakwath]

What I've noticed is once you identify the manipulative techniques being used you start to see them everywhere not just in gaming.

[@Steven-ke2ss]

Enlighten me....

[@makyu9176]

The unecessary updates on the apps on your phone, even the software updates trains your mindset that you will always need to upgrade and change phones and it always has to be the latest

[@unknownobject3]

@@makyu9176 for me, latest means the newest android versions. i just throw a custom rom on my phone and I'm good

[@unknownobject3]

@Shortest Movie Rants ok?

[@wavewatcher_]

This video itself is a good example of it. He makes up some controversy on a popular game he knows nothing about and… bam… clicks.

[@diegopestana808]

I've played Pokemon Unite for a long time and used to win most of my matches. Never felt the need for buying anything, even when my items weren't fulled out, it wasn't that hard to win.

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[@mence5992]

You have probably played moba before, that's why. The dude was probably a complete noob. After the tutorials had to face real opponents and got steamrolled because of the lack of experience. He thought the problem were the items and not the fact he was trying to 1vs2 against players with higher level.

[@diegopestana808]

@@mence5992 yep, i did play moba before and Pokémon Unite is by far the easies one to play

[@gordon.sarratt]

@@diegopestana808 unite is a really accessible moba

[@YashSingh-hu9sw]

I agree. This video can be true about other games but not pokemon unite.

[@Sootmannn]

Me with no money : YOUR POWER IS USELESS AGAINST ME FOOL

[@ElTestok]

This entire video can be summed up with these two quotes: "Pokemon Unite is pay to win." and "No matter how much money I spent, I kept losing." Sounds contradictory if you ask me ;) (Perhaps the real issue which has not been considered is.... is it possible that you are simply bad at the game?)

[@Youdontknowme547]

you are actually hopeless

[@HVT-jd5ce]

did you even watch the video? He used the game as a metaphor for the industry. But oh well, ignorance is bliss.

[@AntBored]

He is never ever getting sponsored by a mobile game in his life and he probably knew that yet still made this video my respect for him is through the roof.

[@paarshadtrivedi7569]

Not supercell games, in that games F2P players can get everything whales get... expect cosmetics, which gives 0 competitive advantage

[@Mario123007]

Well any mobile game that's in the video to say the least lol.

[@Rj-eq8nq]

@@paarshadtrivedi7569 nah bro it will take years to max the base in coc or get all the cards maxed in clash of royal they are the most greedy mobile game co.

[@adarshvijayakumar7066]

Raid shadow legends doesn't care 🤣

[@GamerYouTubik]

@DoriDorisuke its ok? you dont even need to pay real money to buy battle pass

[@Ahdok1]

we originally thought the amount you'd need to spend to "max out a character" in diablo immortal was $130,000 - BUT if you actually max out one of the legendary gems, it opens up five extra (previously invisible) slots - meaning it costs at least 6x as much as we thought.

[@trueskillz1567]

That’s still like $20,000 to max out a character.

[@rahulk2633]

@@trueskillz1567 you don't make any sense

[@trueskillz1567]

@@rahulk2633 I misread 6x as much as 6x less

[@JmKrokY]

Cool

[@soupcangaming662]

@@trueskillz1567 untrueskillz moment

[@kram4130]

Amazing, did not expect to see a video like this on the channel. Great work

[@malachiclark8140]

In these games, I try and think about ways to win with the least amount of money. Then it hit me, the only way to win is not to play.

[@cadobean]

I’ve been playing Pokémon Unite since it came out last year, I’ve spent the entire time as a free to play player. It’s just a matter of knowing what you need to do to not have the urge to spend any money. (for me it’s not having any lol)

[@avs_ytb]

Dude not everyone is smart like you and me, there will be people who will be fooled by it.

[@yveltaly4727]

If he had patience and determination he could have climbed up w/o spending any money

[@dante7411]

Lot of kids play these games , do you think they can think reasonably? They will definitely fall for this.

[@jamielgameryt3512]

@@yveltaly4727 true he just played it for like a 2 weeks ago and say some wrong information about the game, he clearly dont know the mechanics of the game.

[@sonev124]

Some people just think they win few games and they are the best of the world that can win against the experienced players. He didn’t really make research before being such a whiny baby.

[@Shubhamkumar-vd5fy]

that's how a tech channel should be,not just mobiles and laptops

[@catbeans4685]

Sadly he is out of his element here and got almost everything wrong. Maybe it's best to just stick to mobiles and laptops.

[@lolpet2]

@@catbeans4685 true...

[@rimimimimimimimim4170]

Yeah good video and can really relate, even if a game is getting slow the grinding is going, you don’t want to lose all the time and effort you put into it, so then you have to pay or you have to put even more time and effort, and if you aren’t on the paying side, you will ALWAYS be playing catch up, or they would have to keep really weak for a very long time to be strong one update like saving gems, the best option is to honestly just quit but it’s a really hard decision to make, they give free to play players like max rarity units who use to be good but a new max rarity character would be way way way better and maybe even non max rarity characters so you feel you got something good but in reality it’s nowhere close to the new stuff, I just quit all games like this and that’s why I was so sad overwatch closes yesterday, I legitimately don’t want to play overwatch 2 (I got overwatch preordered) and overwatch 2 locks so much behind levels and battle passes, all my friends want to try it but I can’t go from overwatch one which close to the 2nd game today because of that, I’m probably going to log in see it then just close the game for a really long time.

[@catbeans4685]

@@rimimimimimimimim4170 No. Very bad video. Yes many game use those tactics. Pokemon Unite was a poor choice and showed how content he is with putting out a video while being blissfully ignorant on the subject or just flat out clickbait.

[@lekejoshua4402]

@@catbeans4685 you're soo addicted you even side with the game jeez

[@858yum56]

Even if the game is free or expensive it still has expensive add ons

[@MichaelRorby]

Thanks for yet once going down the rabbit hole for all of us! Great overview and analysis! 🙏

[@resgarts1087]

Great video! But, as a Pokemon United player who reached Master Rank without spending any money at all, I have to say that in PU game knowledge and skills are far more important than the money you spend. Look at Spreagels reaction to this, he points out what is actually correct about Pokemon Unite's costs.

[@elismart13]

Everything he said still stands, but I also think if you spend a lot money on in game purchases your an idiot ,as for example I've spent nothing and I've even played clash of clans since 2013 and many other similar games to this)

[@kodiak63]

@@elismart13 a lot of the things he said do not stand...

[@scrittle]

@@elismart13 He used a bad example and played like a complete idiot. His opening had me thinking: "If Pokemon Unite was actually P2W, would he spend 100$ to easily beat every match and make a video about PU being P2W?". He was going to shame Pokemon Unite as a game regardless of whether it was good or not. He got so much wrong in this video, if he had reached out to a PU streamer or looked at the community he would've gotten more clarity on the tricks PU uses to keep people playing AND judge how P2W this game is. "I poured so much time and love into my account" UniteAPI: This user played 28 matches (= 280 minutes = 4 hours 40 minutes) with a fairly decent win rate. He nitpicked, he strawmanned, he lied to you. If he wanted to make a good video he would've chosen a better game to review.

[@Austinfdp]

@@elismart13 coc is ass noting is good to have

[@lsnorlax9653]

@@elismart13 I do not see a point that stand, i am a very dumb being, please point it out

[@artexjay]

I'm honestly the ULTIMATE anti-consumer for these games lmao. I've played a few of these types of games, never paid and always end up putting the game down when i run out of stamina or game coins and it needs to recharge. To the point that I sometimes even forget to open the game to the reward bonus. I am completely unable to form a habit with these games at all, because it feels more like a hassle to just get the game open and thus I become somewhat resistant and end up dropping the game out of boredom or play real games on my switch or pc.

[@ChristyPlayz]

yeah i know right haha

[@nobodywilleverknow8371]

The ultimate anti consumer would be someone who doesn't play the game at all. As stated in the video, even if you don't spend, you are still providing the whales another player they can safely know beneath them, adding to their rush and making them play and spend more (as long as their is even the tiniest amount of competitiveness in the game, which most games have. Even just a simple leaderboard suffices. Being first out of ten thousand feels way better than being first out of ten, even if 9990 of the other players don't really play the game at all. The number is still there). So while your contribution is admittedly very small and your resistance to these manipulations is admirable, you are unfortunately still contributing to the system, no matter how insignificant it may seem. Just play non competitive games like nonogram or sudoku on your mobile and play the real games on your pc, it is better for your eyesight anyways. ;) (I mean, you already said you are basically doing that, I would just encourage you to not even try these competitive mobile games like you said you do. They are literally nothing but a waste of time anyway, they offer you nothing worthwhile in return.)

[@esilufrancis9535]

There's a game called homescapes, this guy's give insane bonuses and by the time you realize it you are spending 7 hours a day and you are doing nothing but playing it

[@piratejayesh8422]

I am also that person who is always free to play never spending any money on the game For me brawl stars is the game which actually cares about their f2p players and give tham every other brawl pass to enjoy And win depends on the skill not money

[@michaelbuto305]

True. They make you do chores after chores. Sure kids would love to play these kind of game for the first time. But maan it dies fast. In the end they going to go for forum and community which filled with Narcisist. Its funny how this generation kind of shaped, while classic one were shaped by community. Today it shaped by company. Wiseman once said. 'The more perfect you feel, the more greedy you are.'

[@owensaenz1065]

No money required to play. You just have the money to spend without the patience of learning how to play.

[@anikapathak5891]

I don't spend money on games because I don't have them, I am broke.

[@SassyShelly]

thank you for doing this! my daughter plays these kind of games and she always wants her allowance in some different game currency. and she's always like "I only have 6 minutes left to get this thing I've always wanted!" I'm going to have her watch this video hopefully it will open her eyes a bit. I always tell her it's a scam but she just doesn't get it.

[@ChidanandHiremath]

Give her good ideas for things she could do with her allowance. DIY stuff, planning stuff with friends etc.

[@dano1307]

It has to be so tough. When I was a kid you just didn't care if it was a scam or not. You dont understand the true meaning and value of money at that age. You are hooked line and sinker. Have you showed her yet?

[@chaoticglitched]

SHOW HER

[@Miraclelnvoker]

Don't just give her an allowance directly because they won't appreciate it, you should make her earn her allowance through house chores etc so she can appreciate the value of money.

[@LongDeadArtist]

@@Miraclelnvoker you only know that she gets an allowance in some way

[@rikimaroshu]

I'm glad people are pointing out the Pokemon Unite part. If this was actually one year ago, then you could see the argument like MoistCritikal's video, but Pokemon Unite has actually improved since then. Now they have free lvl 30 item enchancers you can get by just playing the game so your not behind on item levels. The only "predatory" thing in the game is arguably the skin and gacha mechanic with emblems. Skins are just skins and they dont affect stats. Emblems you can't just outright buy them. You have to earn them by consistently playing the game and doing good in those games. TLDR Pokemon Unite was not a good example for being Pay to win.

[@JamesDaCostaMusic]

Moistcriticals video was also bullshit even back then. The major advantage from items comes at level 20 which you were able to get easily without paying even on the games release. The stat increases you get from lvl 20 to 30 are negligible and a complete non factor to having more success.

[@theboyofmayo]

@@JamesDaCostaMusic was about to say this

[@greedy_tako3385]

Agreed. You actually need skill to play. It's a MOBA.

[@9ineee]

@@JamesDaCostaMusic right

[@jianfengyap9209]

this man just pick randomly while keeping hes eye shut and have the mindset of this game will milk me AND make a very bias research u can tell from all hes "proves" are just general game marketing and not really about the game not to mention he dint even mention the recent real predatory marketing strategy that unite made up being new released pokemon now is actually behind real money paywall when it released

[@NormansWorldMovies]

I'm going to be honest. This reward factor never works on me.

[@Thetechchap]

Excellent video, Arun. It's scary stuff, thank you for highlighting it so well!

[@CRBMA7]

@@gan1 same

[@Unfilterd]

Indeed it’s scary stuff

[@zinekaizerzen-pokemonunite1390]

The video is so wrong on so many levels, You dont need to spend a dime to be good at Pokemon Unite!

[@PierroTheJester]

@@zinekaizerzen-pokemonunite1390 I think he mentioned multiple times that "if you want to play competitively".

[@zinekaizerzen-pokemonunite1390]

@@PierroTheJester You dont even need to spend any money to play competitively looool, there's tournament mode used in competitive that has all the pokemon & items unlocked & free to play!!

[@sourceeee]

He's been killing it recently with these videos and going right for the throat of companies BS and issues, respect to that

[@againandagain7052]

W comment

[@SultanDougBob]

Arun is a cool dude.

[@nishant5655]

@Jack Wrath 😶

[@srank7953]

@Jack Wrath I wonder why you bots keep spamming the same shit everyday even though it's so obvious that no one will check your channel if you spam like that. Like I don't get it man

[@wannacry3382]

@@srank7953 they don't deserve the support

[@bradlucid]

People don't even understand, that by Arun JUST sharing that snippet of the workshop on the "first-spend" is such a flex. The info that is being shared here is a literal 'life-easter-egg' .

[@AaradhyaPatel-cm1fk]

And am also a big fan of you as your information is very valuable. I prefer your videos instead of a tech channel, honestly speaking. Your videos are very resourceful and I got to know many things that are very important for you

[@seyerus]

‘Preying on Addiction’ is a very accurate and disturbing term.

[@RustySeatbelt]

Mobile publishers have turned into modern-day drug lords

[@baronwu3436]

this vid is why i play fortnite

[@baronwu3436]

bruh i typed this comment before i watched the vid ;-;

[@st.michaelthearchangel7774]

😆 I have never played Fortnite - is it filled with micro transactions and such described in the video?

[@baronwu3436]

@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 Nah everything is free except for skins. It's fun but hard.

[@gaminghighlights2481]

This is one of the reasons I mostly stopped playing video games anymore. Instead, of making a fun enjoyable game, video games are now used as money making machines. Kids are specially vulnerable to this. This video needs to spread further to bring awareness, so eventually a law might be passed to prevent video game develops from exploiting an addiction.

[@shenalwitharanaroxtothemax4402]

Play Minecraft!

[@cartoon29_58]

mostly mobile games and those games made by money hungry studios, if I may recommend some games for you, Webbed, Cuphead, Don’t Starve Together, Untitled Goose Game and of course Minecraft are all very much personal favourites of mine. The only one that may offer purchases is DST, but they are all for skins and characters, which do not break the pure difficulty and survival aspect of the game. Webbed is a personal favourite of mine, second only to Minecraft. Love the mechanics and web physics it comes with. Aanyways this message is way too long so goodbye

[@Leg1503]

Many full price games also do this, like call of duty with its crazy slow grind for maxing out a gun or any Ubisoft game that lets you pay to skip the grind, but there are a lot of really good games from indie studios that are made as passion projects.

[@darthraider450]

Arun should go after Fifa next

[@Int-Q]

@@cartoon29_58 u mean basically all aaa titles and other offline games on steam

[@kalanaekanayake12]

This is one of the best videos I've seen thanks for the wisdom shared I'm sure a lot of people will find this video super helpful !

[@Nathanfx2006]

When I tried Pokémon Unite, I thought it was all bots because I never lost a match. However I also spent no money, maybe spending money triggers something now they know you're willing? Or maybe just poor matchmaking, I have no idea.

[@rokushou]

This is why I mostly play single player games nowadays and avoid anything free to play. I usually have enough self-restraint to avoid buying microtransactions, but they are so annoying that I'd rather buy a full-priced game than have to deal with F2P microtransactions and the systems that come with it. I also hate when games try to get you to play daily whether it's through timers/energy or daily rewards/missions. The "habit" part was what burned me out on MMOs since it ended up feeling more like work than fun to log into the game every day and play the bare minimum just to not fall behind on progression.

[@dumzacs7628]

He makes good points but used an absolutely terrible example. Pokemon Unite isn't as Pay to Win as he makes it appear to be. You could literally reach Masters without paying a single penny. If you want new Pokees on release date (which is grindable after the first week) or new skins then yeah spend some money! Devs have to make a living.

[@sonicjackcat2812]

And thats why Minecraft is good

[@gekkouga2828]

@@dumzacs7628 fr. This video is absolutely misleading

[@Masaim6]

@@dumzacs7628 They shouldn't make money by praying on neuro-untypical people. I'm clad you haven't spent a dime, but millions of people whose financial situations don't allow it have.

[@asocos]

@@gekkouga2828 WHY WOULD YOU PAY 100 DOLLARS IN A FREE TO PLAY GAME

[@SoniasWay]

This makes me scared for what company’s could do by deploying tactics like this in the meta verse

[@Alexiztheone]

Facebook would 100% do something as shady as that

[@gabrieltavares774]

Now that you mentioned, it truly is very very scary

[@Suwawako]

No one will actually use the metaverse tho

[@doctorlovera]

Mark S: The hell... I mean... The sky is the limit.

[@whoareyou3781]

Lmao I actually forgot about that thing

[@samirm9097]

Funny that genshin impact got mentioned, since this game actually playable completely for free. You can even beat hardest content without spending a dime. The only pay in genshin happen when you want a character but you didn’t save currency. .

[@user-qh8yj3mb1w]

After seeing this I uninstalled all my mobile games and realized I should buy a gaming console

[@TdfJNR]

I was literally hooked to marvel contest of champions for 7 years and honestly it cost me thousandsb and stressed me out so much. Many thanks for doing a video like this!

[@revealed8890]

Bro I used to play that game I was gonna spend but my game stopped working so didnt glad to see you got out of it oo

[@mcoclowskill169]

Hello there, fellow summoner I feel you

[@nabeelmohammed6332]

I ve played the same game for like 2 yrs.. But never spend a single cent (one of the reasons being, my parents not allowin me to spend any😂)

[@melchisedecsomba8237]

I get you man

[@6stax837]

As a pokemon unite player myself I feel like there is one more thing. The fondness you have with the Pokémon, whether you see it in the anime or play it on one of the mainline games, the fact that you can play as your favourite Pokémon that you have so many fond memories with makes you go to any height to unlock it. That is why they are now releasing more popular Pokémon and having them behind a gem wall

[@o_o1435]

Yes I'm a Pokémon Unite player too whenever they gonna released a new Pokémon they gonna lock it with a gem wall

[@vzruraven5050]

i literally downloaded it and played until i got greninja and never touched it again 💀💀

[@Gatitasecsii]

That's just being stupid

[@skoopmc9119]

I think unite is pretty good and loved the game, the only complaint I have is that new Pokémon are behind a pay wall for a week, coming from a 8month unite player

[@chakripranavvarma2476]

@@skoopmc9119 same, I've been playing PU from the next week it got released on Android and believe me, the game never felt more stressful and hard before. It brings us to a dark conclusion that with time, the developers do get greedy, very greedy.

[@user-yr6ob6oh3o]

Bro, I never spent a single currency on pokemon unite, and I just grinded. Now my Venusaur is carrying me through the ranks. You don't need grade 30 on held items, just 20 and they are OP.

[@arashkarimi6077]

Tip: DO NOT SPAM THE BASIC ATTACK ESPECIALLY WITH CHARIZARD JUST HOLD

[@AuthenTech]

It would have been hilarious if in the middle of this video, "But first, thanks to this videos sponsor, RAID Shadow Legends!" 🤣

[@rayndaba3166]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@faeril2389]

Tru

[@bexonYTx]

The fact that the whole first half of this is the bare minimum I expect from any mobile game I play. But eh, can't scam you out of what you don't have

[@RazerClaw7]

Poor

[@ZVLIAN]

@@RazerClaw7 a good protection

[@kiertres12]

Nice pfp

[@dawfydd]

@@RazerClaw7 the difference between him being poor and you spending money on mobile games is at least he isn't stupid enough to lose thousands.. or more! I'd say the poor have out classed most suckers for mobile games.

[@irtazza133]

For real

[@uwestorl-sh4ss]

Pokémon Unite wasn’t that bad. I didn’t spend a single cent and still won fairly many games with venesaur

[@SavioPereira-kg5ti]

I am a counselor with a rehabilitation centre and I really love the way you've correlated this topic with drug addiction. Kudos for the great work.

[@MrKoraalrif]

I actually did my bachelor thesis on this exact same subject (dark patterns in gaming) and I can tell this is spot on! I was baffled by the lengths developers will go to, to make users spend more and more money.

[@luisvalencia7939]

You had a bachelor’s thesis?🤨Where tf they do that at😭😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@DanielAnchundiaH]

Can you please share with my your findings, I am from South America and I am conducting a similar research.

[@oicirbaf239]

@@luisvalencia7939 México, for example.

[@iso2885]

The first game he mentioned is not even pay to win and yall just eating it up😂

[@venator7889]

@@iso2885The game still forces you to pay alot of money in order to be successful at it, so it still belongs in the list of games trying to scam you.

[@techFAUX]

I work as an artist in one of the mobile gaming giants and all the strategies to pull out cash from players are really dirty sometimes! A lot to left for you to dig...

[@thatgreypain]

Why do you work with them then?

[@keepplays5451]

@@thatgreypain Money! 🦀

[@waleedkhan7414]

Spill the tea buddy! We're all ears

[@mido_mayadoo]

Android users be like that's why we have mods💀

[@saransh1649]

You can't play online multiplayer when using mods

[@rologic24]

This is well done! I have been thinking about all of this and you did a great job explaining the trap of “free to play” games. I mostly play CODM but will never pay $100 for an untangle item that has no value. Some people pay $200-$300 for the mythical weapons! That’s insane!!! The game doesn’t hold you back from competing so that’s good.

[@dave5517]

you can grab them on the floor for free just like in VALORANT 😅

[@OrionRing]

Hey atleast its cosmetic right?

[@haroldhuntergaming9584]

Codm is kinda p2w most of the mythic guns has rlly good ironsight compared to the normal one like the mythic ice drake on krig 6 but normal normal krig 6 has rlly rlly trash iron sight and krig 6 is also onr of the best gun rn but still a 10/10 game

[@sohanhtk]

I'm playing codm since 2020 but I didn't spend a single $

[@DatzAdam]

I remember a few years ago when Arun made video that had a sponsorship from a Mystery Box scam company I felt so disappointed because I genuinely loved his content and was a huge fan for years. I'm so glad to see him grow and learn to where he is today. Awesome content as always!

[@vaanivijay6552]

Could u mention which video it was? 😊

[@DatzAdam]

@@vaanivijay6552 the website was called MysteryBrand and a lot of other KZbin channels had sponsorships from it at the time. I can't remember which video it was but I'm sure it's deleted after other KZbinrs exposed the website as a scam

[@vaanivijay6552]

@@DatzAdam ahh thank you very much

[@zosephzostar6857]

His name is Arun not aron lol

[@User-cb4jm]

Arun definitely does a lot of good “exposé” content like this around scams/consumer issues for a while now, etc and that is what I’m here for (along with the insightful product reviews, I don’t really care for or click into the “I bought the worlds xyz tech” but others do and that’s fine). But anyway glad he’s just using good sponsors like phone case companies or whatever, that has a simple transparent product we can choose to buy or not buy, but we aren’t being misled to buy into dodgy businesses.

[@Deltavis360]

If someone says they make games to earn money to themselves and their employees,but they forget they scam money not earn money

[@adgurkan]

I would not personally call this a scam. It’s a kind of tricky marketing strategy that forces players or users to purchase things they don’t need. And in some mobile games the game always gets harder when you don’t purchase in game items and when you buy them the other levels get even harder

[@animetoon2.084]

Bro really this game is not pay to win I am at top rank which is master rank without costing one single penny It’s not like you have to but every held item just buy the best ones and he was doing absolute foolishness by going into there base he just doesn’t know how it works Whenever he dies he should think why he died rather than just saying it pay to win

[@tayredgrave6605]

There are definitely mobile games out there that are p2w, but Pokémon Unite isn't one of them. Certainly you can spend money to get new Pokémon, but you can also farm the coins to aquire them as a f2p. Most people spend money on the cosmetics which has no bearing on the stats of the Pokémon. Buying new Pokémon or those cosmetics also have no impact on the gameplay. That is entirely skill-based and tries strongly on your team (if were all working together, etc). I'm F2P and if I do spend money, it's just gonna be for the Unite Membership, some cosmetics and/or some Pokémon... and that's if I choose to. Even if I don't choose to, I don't feel like I'm behind other players (unlike other mobile games) and it's nice.

[@haruyanto8085]

He's not saying Pokémon unite is P2W but P2P, pay to progress, again his take on the game is from the perspective of a newbie player, hence exactly the perfect target for the developer and their monetisation system, experienced F2P obviously won't fall for it and ofc the game isn't blatantly unfair, it still matches you with bots occasionally, but getting into the competitive leagues is very very difficult for F2P, as someone with almost 10 years of experience with gacha, nothing he said in the video is wrong about the monetisation nor the tactics used

[@tayredgrave6605]

@@haruyanto8085 I'm Veteran rank working my way to Ultra, and I didn't spend any money to get there. It's not p2w or 'pay to progress'. It's a switch/mobile game that has p2w aspects, sure, but a new player or f2p player can get to the same spot as an experienced player without opening their wallet. It just requires skill (I.e. knowing your Pokémon and what it can and can't do) and decent teammates. And yes, it will be a bit slow in upgrading your held items if you're full f2p (as it is for me), but again... I'm at Veteran rank working my way to Ultra. So I'm progressing fine.

[@IAteYourSandwich]

@@haruyanto8085 that’s the thing. Unite was a bad example because it is not P2W or P2P at all. It is a MOBA. It is all about skill, you get three lvl 30 items for free, and if you choose the correct ones, that can be the best three for almost half the roster. You have to play to progress, not pay. As evidenced by his own experience... he payed a ton, equipped the wrong items for his chosen character, is honestly just bad at the game and got trounced by better players who likely didn’t spend a dime. I could start a fresh account right now and get to masters within a week spending nothing on the game.

[@hasbrogaminghsbgaming4983]

@@haruyanto8085 ye but even while being F2P, I reached the highest rank of the game every season without ever feeling behind of anyone.

[@Franatomy]

@@haruyanto8085 your 10 years of gacha should show you how wrong his take it but either you're lying about your experience or you've learned absolutely nothing from it. The only ones who pay to progress are ones who will never be good enough and are desperate for success.

[@5alpha23]

one of the few perks of having Asperger's: not falling for any corporate marketing strategies

[@LP2Life]

I feel like even banks are going with this strategy of you not knowing what you actually pay for stuff. Because they have introduced the 'code-less - wifi' payment method. Now nobody looks at the screen anymore at what they are actually paying and therefore are losing the ability to know what something actually costs and is worth.

[@rebelrhino359]

Wow I started this video thinking "Yeah I know these games are scammy and bad" but I never would've thought they're THIS bad and manipulative. Thank you for opening my eyes to this and spreading the message

[@brodyroberts5230]

Just letting you know Pokemon unite is not pay to win. Yes they are trying to make money, that is the entire reason why almost all games exist. The amount items do is not enough to deny you access to the highest rank. It is almost as easy to get to the highest rank with or without items. Most of the things you can buy are cosmetic, game has to make money some how. Pokemon unite has a extremely high skill cap and a really low skill floor. The Pokemon unite portion is fake to an extent. Yes they try and get more money out of you than you want but it's not even tempting if you realise that the game is skill based you aren't remotely tempted by the in app purchases.

[@jeeva1]

@@brodyroberts5230 There are lot of game which you can enjoy without these riggied money minting system . Games that are make you relax is a real game for ex Minecraft, gta , terties. People who play Competitive games are not only gamers. Eg dream , technoblade are biggest names in the gaming industry and they do not play the shitty compative moblie games. they are lot of games which you can enjoy without compativiness . Sandbox games, Rpg games, p v e games these are types of games that you can enjoy

[@rebelrhino359]

@@brodyroberts5230 I understand that they’re a company trying to make money. I think it’s more about how they’re trying to hide that fact by implementing different currencies etc to make it harder to see that. Keep in mind a large portion of players for most of these video games are kids, who probably aren’t as aware either

[@thegamingbird101]

@@brodyroberts5230 you're right my dude

[@brodyroberts5230]

@@jeeva1 yes there are, but all games need money. A game can cost money initially like terraria, Minecraft ect or they can be free and have some in-game purchases. Pokemon unite is not perfect but it is better than all the other games mentioned in the vid. And by no means is it pay to win

[@parrottlm]

Taking shots at some pretty big names here. Excellent job on showing them up for who they are as companies. Love this channel.

[@littlefloss._.]

1st on a 160 liked comment

[@ibnu9969]

Except he picked the wrong game for the topic. Pokemon Unite is anything but p2w. All the resources he mentioned, save the gems, are obtainable in the game completely for free. Of course you can purchase those resources with gems, but you dont have to. Paying doesnt affect matchmaking at all, by watching his footages I can conclude this boy just sucks hard at this game

[@harshpawar7489]

@@ibnu9969 Whale spotted

[@Stealther]

@@ibnu9969 Its all a gradient of PTW. They don't make these games just for the experience. Their main priority is to make money. How effectively they disguise that determines their success.

[@ibnu9969]

@@Stealther no shit sherlock I thought this was a charity OF COURSE they need to make money somehow. Look, I completely agree with his arguments, except he chose the wrong game to be the main subject of the discussion. If it were ANY other moba games I will 100% agree with him. There is no paid gacha element in Unite, you can obtain Aeos energy to use the gacha FOR FREE. There's no such thing as paying customers getting better matchmaking, me for example still getting vegetables as my teammates despite me buying the season pass. This boy just lack the knowledge and the skill at the game, but he's good at spinning his skill issue into an interesting content

[@AdamWolf-yj4ld]

I beat online levels with pikachu, not like charizard. And the game throws so many item enhancers at you, I don't even know what to do with them.

[@xba_ii]

I can definitely agree. I’ve been really hooked on to Clash Royale. But then as soon as I got into higher arenas, the more difficult it came to win. I was also always tempted by the shop selling amazing deals. The game was really fun as first in the first few arenas. Another thing to talk about is the game’s matchmaking. Sometimes the game matches you with players with higher trophies than you, in which they completely trash me by spamming all their cards. And sometimes the game match makes me to an easier opponent which I find easy to win. Overall, Clash Royale is addictive in terms of its very friendly beginning.

[@sreenandhsudheesh1005]

The saddest Part why most people doesn’t oppress this is that it has become such a common thing nowadays, creating a feel that this is just what a game should be… kudos to Arun for standing against it

[@S41t4r4]

Even worse, some people actually still like it and defend such practice because they think " I have fun with this game for free, why should I care about addicted people being exploited"

[@apexheat6553]

@@S41t4r4 fax. Most common thing people say to defend these predatory practices is that " it's a free game and you don't HAVE to spend money so it's no problem"

[@OrRaino]

The problem lies with the game being Free, this shit happens in free pc games too because that's their only way of income

[@S41t4r4]

@@apexheat6553 Another take I see often is " But game XY has no p2w just visual stuff" to defend games like COD mobile, Overwatch et cetera. Basically, ignoring most of the argument against psychological manipulation.

[@apexheat6553]

@@S41t4r4 yup. Codm is the main game I play and I'm sure you know about the custom Red dot for ironsights on the mythic and some legendary guns. This may not be directly pay2win but its very close as you are paying for a tangible advantage compared to if you didn't. The subtlety of theses purchases is what allows it to get so far without receiving backlash

[@josephedwardmonserate8061]

Pokemon Unite: I've only spent money in consideration for the skins/holowears, not so much in upgrading item, earning tickets/coins, for someone who has been playing since its release, they have been more than enough. I agree though that the game seems to be overwhelming for those just starting one, you would have the feeling of being left behind.

[@Pinchap]

True

[@JaSon-wc4pn]

Same with War Robots, great game but can get expensive trying to stay meta

[@mitachi9033]

I reached legend in a free to play. Yes, you must bleed 🩸 before reaching peak competitive.

[@kayne7380]

I reached top 1k leaderboards in 2 weeks f2p. Hearing pokemon unite is not about skill and its just button mashing is absurd

[@DNAfloRite]

@@mitachi9033 which game?

[@rmh.production]

Brilliant content! Thank you 😮

[@legn7324]

literally achieved max player lvl, masters rank, several max lvl held items and many more in pokemon unite w/o paying a single penny. if you're losing, you're playing thoughtless

[@Unbanmenow]

How long did you have to grind tho?Time is money

[@legn7324]

@@Unbanmenow every time I took a dump for some months

[@ChingChong_6ixty9iner]

This entire video is the embodiment of “Tell me you never played a moba before without actually telling me you haven’t played a moba before”

[@watchyourtimeco1]

This video hits me SO hard. Unfortunately, I have an addictive personality and I'm extremely impatient and simply cannot abide grinding for something unless there is immediate rewards. What I'm saying is, I need to be the strongest player, but I don't have the patience to grind my way to the top. About 10 years ago, I fell into an MMO (I honestly can't remember the name). The first "mission" (tutorial) gave me a taste of what was to come and the second mission made it seem like I should be able to take down these monsters easily! In the 3rd mission, I got my ass kicked and went back to the character page with my tail betwixt my legs. I tried everything I could to get strong enough without money but, in the long run, I knew my toon would be a weakling without spending a little money.. At that time, I had just opened a company that had an incredibly successful launch and, if projections were correct, I expected a very strong trend for several months. In other words, I had (what seemed to me to be) a ridiculous amount of disposable income! I decided I was going to pay to win! I bought the best armor and the highest ranking spells (I was a sorcerer). I then tried a daily group mission and realized there were toons stronger than I was! Back to the store! I purchased multiple pieces of armor so I could meld them and get a higher level armor. I purchased multiple spells and combined them to make stronger spells. With my new "disposable" income, I became one of the top 5 players on my server within just a month of playing. I was the guy everyone wanted on their team. I was the guy people begged to join the server-wide attack on the incredibly high ranking beastie. Everyone on my server knew who I was and I was loving it! Any time I found my toon not up to a task, I headed back to the store to buy whatever I could to increase my stats. After about 2 months, Jackie (the person I had hired as the bookkeeper for the company) approached me. It seems she was confused about numerous charges, to some company that didn't match any of our suppliers. I told her "Yeah, I know it's stupid but I've been playing this game and I've spent a little money on it. Just take it out of my next couple of checks". When she told me I wouldn't be getting a paycheck for the next 4 months, that got my attention. Jackie showed me list of charges ranging from $10 to $100. I thought I had spent around 4 or 5 thousand dollars but, in light of my new income, I wasn't worried about it. Jackie literally laughed in my face when she heard me say $5k. She then handed me a sheet of paper of charges, filling the entire page. I focused on the bold number circled in red at the bottom right of the sheet and was dumbfounded by the number printed there. $12,470! Yes. I spent $12,000 on a stupid fucking online game in about 2 months! Lemme say that again. I FUCKING SPENT TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ON AN ONLINE GAME...IN TWO MONTHS! Yes. I know. I'm an idiot. I'm not an idiot because I spent the money. I'm an idiot because I didn't see the flaw in the "pay to win" mentality until I had already lost my mind. Unless I had literally a limitless fortune, there would always be someone willing to spend more money to be better than me. It's crazy how quickly $10-$100 charges will accrue! So, realizing my addiction had blown past the "unmanageable" phase and was firmly in the "idiots do this" realm, I contacted a friend from that game and literally gave them my character and walked away from that game, and those like it, forever. Be careful about the "store" page of these games! It's way easy to justify one payment, but after you've paid once, you feel obliged to do it again because you're already invested. Then when you find something you can't do because you're one level short, it's way too easy to simply pay for that upgrade. Now that you've paid for that upgrade, it doesn't make sense to stop now or you've wasted all that money! So you buy more. And more. And more. I know many people can see through the scam and just play the game without paying for anything, but those games wouldn't exist if there wasn't plenty of people willing to spend their hard earned money on intangible, digital merchandise. One purchase is all it takes to start the cycle. If you're able to resist, great! For those with addictive personalities, like myself, it's probably best to stay away from these kinds of games.

[@Skizzors]

Damn

[@aroojfatima2245]

Man...12,000?!!

[@kostasgamer6725]

I’m so sorry about you man… I read your entire thing and all I can say is that it is unbelievably easy for these companies to trick you. Remember my words : F2P FOR THE WIN, BABYYY !!!

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

I remember when we were all clamouring for the removal of loot boxes and we were happy when we started seeing them be removed from games or new games not having them but it turns out all that was is that they found a better method to scam people.

[@kostasgamer6725]

@@TheAkashicTraveller trust me, they will ALWAYS find a way... and they found it after all. Battle Passes are the new scam method and they should be stopped ASAP.

[@jamiebrown1235]

I’ve worked 6 yrs in the online gambling industry. All the concepts discussed were disco and first used in online gambling. Sign up bonuses to break the barrier is essential to the acquisition strategy. Push towards slots with high volatility (small wins but much more often) gets you hooked on the reward stimulation and perception that the big win (like levelling up quick but the level you want to be is so far and impossible) that only whales really get. The concept of in-game currency comes from buying tickets for tournaments in the casino. This was developed in the 90s. I think I made my point in how the mobile gaming system is literally and purposefully designed based on the online gambling industry. The difference I think is most important is that online gambling has regulations in place. There are companies that monitor and reign in industry. Even worse, the mobile gaming industry is aimed at children and is much more sinister in fostering addiction than online gambling could ever be.

[@fabiaaquino2207]

But he used the worst examples of "P2W" games

[@fickdich564]

@@fabiaaquino2207 "I know he made a good point and the game clearly shows some signs of the system you mentioned but other mobile game are worse" that isnt an argument. He could have used effectivly every multiplayer mobile game from clash royale to rise of kingdoms. All of them employ predatory marketing techniques to bleed people dry

[@muhammadiqbal99988]

I agree, cause I am tired with all mobile online games especially Honkai Impact. I understand that people want and like to play those games, bur they must realize that EVERY online games have a server and a limited time such as time-event, offer limited to shutting down thr server of game. I have four games that have been closed, so I dont wanna play every online game again and stick with offline games and indie games.

[@anniesprinkles7679]

I agree with this 100% and cannot understand why there are no real policing of these mobile games!??? I know for a fact but cannot prove (or have anybody to ask for help proving this, can't call the police like you would do if any other crime was happening to you) a mobile game I have been playing over six years changes drop rates on items as they see fit. This is false advertisement in any other business pretty much around the world I would think.?? False advertising is illegal and know for a fact some have been caught with no real consequence for doing it. We need laws and someone who goes into these gaming apps and makes sure devs are being honest & KEEPING them honest. It is literally the wild west for the mobile gaming industry with Google as their president.

[@mite3959]

⁠@@fickdich564it’s not arguing against the OP; it’s adding to it lol, and that person isn’t wrong “no u stoobid u hardly have an argument” is hardly an argument

[@youssefasfour1089]

as a call of duty free mobile player its super easy to not fall for it,ignore it and play happily not spending a single penny

[@ascorth]

As online gamer since 2000, i understand this trap from the beginning in game market, thats why i never spend single penny for buying item, i play games because i want to enjoy my free time, and not being competitive (i already need to be competitive in real life). if f2p getting harder levelling, you just switch to other game. The game eventually will end when there is no whales left (except for skill oriented games like CS), and dev will make another version. Thx for Arun, who spend his valuable time to explain this better than anyone else.

[@piro_ch]

It's funny because a lot of these hideous tactics being abused so much it does not feel like a big issue as it should be to a lot of gamers nowadays. Thank you for spreading awareness about this

[@NxVernxual]

Just... FUNNY?

[@piro_ch]

@@NxVernxual If you've been playing mobile games for long enough you will grow cynical about this these sorts of issues. It's kinda like how DLCs and microtransactions were normalized and people are essentially fine with games coming out uncompleted.

[@ImNotPeso]

@@piro_ch you’re right, i play a couple of mobile games but luckily none are quite as bad as pokemon unite. But all of them have their own ways of trying to make you pay ridiculous amounts of money for small gains, which just goes to show how widespread the issue is but also how people don’t really mind anymore.

[@etheriousnoobie1562]

@Jack Wrath Bot..

[@NxVernxual]

@@piro_ch @Piro Hiponotic I've been playing games like Minecraft Pocket edition, Geometry dash and Fruit Ninja nearly for over than 10 years now or probably less, I've grown thought really weird nonsense and bigger issues than these would you think that may turn you "cynical". It's about this generation's games with the new ones like gacha, genish impact, call of duty and even PUBG that is going on the same road as Free Fire. As MrWhosetheboss said, they are intentionally programmed like this to make you feel better and addicted and continue playing "normally" as you would imagine. I'm saying you're right but the problem is so MUCH BIG to handle on so many different ways financially, economically and even morally not just on the side of the player but even on the government side that supports it with Google by not looking at scams or purchasements

[@Zarox8811]

“And no matter how much money I paid, I still kept losing!” Wow, it’s almost like you can’t pay to win Unite…

[@omarchesabangan7977]

yeah, honestly he's being sarcastic here. also the footages of him playing unite were all feeds (him vs a ninetails >2-3 levels higher or him vs 2-3 opponent pokemons)

[@LocalHobo631]

@@omarchesabangan7977 how is he being sarcastic? What point would that serve his argument for this vid?

[@Zarox8811]

How is he being sarcastic? He simply disproved his entire video with this one statement. Yes, the examples shown in the video are feeds, but that doesn’t imply sarcasm to the viewer. More so he’s trying to misinform others about Unite by showing only bad plays that he made.

[@kacchanteh6532]

@@LocalHobo631 arun is intentionally trolling or feeding in unite. He lose on purpose just to get his point however there many players reach masters 1600 points without any items nor emblems. Its call "skill gap"

[@victortu4107]

You can tell he's mad by the way his mac's shaking

[@Cubic_l.l]

I'm planning to develop a game, but with no ads, and purchases, because it's just pointless having purchases, and ads always interrupt, especially the horrible made games. I have always being trolled for a long time, and doing this method of you purchase, feel good, feel bad, and repeat is just a terrible trick...😞

[@GaijinQuest]

I think unite is one of the worst examples for showing this problem. If one informs themself sufficiently, you can quickly find out that spending money does almost nothing for your wins lol. And you can get everything non-cosmetic by just playing the game. There are 1000s of games that are way better examples that rly are p2w to their core..

[@indribagel]

Exactly! I know this is just me personally, but I haven't spent a single dollar on unite and find it very fun and playable

[@raceris7309]

I don't know about you, but having 7 currencies is a bit of an overkill and screams "give us money"

[@crazyluigi6664]

@@raceris7309 Not to mention Pokémon is one of the biggest IPs in the entire world, which makes him bringing it up as a main example feel like it makes a lot more sense for more casual people that don't know what's going on with some of their games at hand in the first place.

[@stuhff8169]

Yes I feel he blatantly criticised the wrong game. Now the current players know how it is. But the ones who might download in the future are stopped from doing so, given his fame in this platform

[@GaijinQuest]

@@raceris7309 I get what u mean but there's only one paid currency. The rest you can easily get through playing. And nothing in the game other than skins and other cosmetics is gated behind a paywall, meaning that your stats can be maxed without paying. This fact alone makes it better than 99% of every other mobile game. Also unite is primarily a nintendo switch game, thus also not fitting into the trope of 'mobile' game as much as many others. Its just a bad example for the point he is trying to make.

[@Zapatozi]

We definitely need more people talking about this. Lots of people spend money and get nothing. So they are stuck in a loop of spending more and more money to get that "one" item they want (and the chances of that could be 0.01%). Marvel Contest of Champions is a good example of that. Anyway, I thank you for talking about this. You have a big channel with a large audience and it takes a lot to make a video like this.

[@kopapai7138]

its not illegal tho so theres not a lot anyone can do about it other then warn people about it i suppose

[@someoneyouneverknow7529]

It's some form of gambling, not illegal but quite disgusting when underage players are doing it

[@PokeForeman]

I totally agree. Pubg mobile is the same thing imagine spending a 150$ to get a gun skin and they have people spend more. These things don't even enhance your ability to play the game.

[@TheAETHER22]

If you create content like this you instantly lose sponsorships. MrWhostheboss is big channel itself so he is self-sustainable and no longer relies on game sponsorships to survive, thus this video. Im pretty sure all people share the same opinion as him about mobile games but nobody is reckless enough to attack their practises when they're paid to advertise them.

[@omrajgor7435]

Bro Spitting Facts

[@Darth-Claw-Killflex]

That whole "sense of accomplishment" thing from assembling your Ikea furniture isn't really a thing in America because you have to assemble anything (furniture) you buy from Walmart, Amazon, Best Buy, Ebay, Kmart, Office Max, Big Lots etc..

[@sw33tialucard]

To be honest, this is the only reason why the huge companies are beginning to make mobile versions of their games.

[@MrTaxiRob]

it's a variation of the subscription model for streaming apps and sites

[@sw33tialucard]

@@MrTaxiRob I believe this is way worse

[@wavewatcher_]

Not entirely It’s mostly due to the increase number of mobile players and time spent on mobile games. People are playing more on mobile than they ever did on console and pc, so it’s only natural to have your IPs where players are.

[@mukamuka0]

Yes, it was design to get user to addicted. Just like gambling. This is why it's so destructive.

[@lucarioind2203]

Dude I am really good doing good in this game...I am getting good ranks etc.....I have spent zero money on this game ....the statements of this vid are total misconception....this guy is just wrong about this game for no reason....he has not even played for a few mins .. doesn't even know anything about this game

[@MakotoIchinose]

Speaking as indie dev and one who moderately get into those kind of games, unfortunately these types of games *flourish* on the mobile game market, and they flourish HARD. Based on my findings from mobile gamer buddies, many mobile players are dissuaded by the idea of paying $30 for a premium single player game with content you expect from PC/console games, but they willing to spend more than $70 to for an uncertain gacha item (and some games would practically cost thousands of dollars for pity system). Free to play players would pay in time of timely rewards and grind. Mobile game market sucks for design ideology expected from PC/console game space and the old timey shenanigans, and unfortunately market crash for it is not in sight.

[@MarvinYoani]

Thats really just the cons of all mobile games with a gacha system in place, for a big example..... *genshin impact*

[@cybernoa88]

@@MarvinYoani Genshin is a bad example the game can be beaten in 5 days after creating a new account and not spending any money at all.

[@leeum20real]

I have big respect for indie game devs. Keep on going!

[@battlegameing1881]

Call of Duty Mobile: You have a 0.08% chance to get this item. World of Tanks Blitz: Pathetic!

[@manuel0578]

Big red flag: when a game has like 10 different in-game currencies

[@singhisabhishek]

Looks like all that work out is paying out. A channel this big need balls to speak up. You've said everything I wanted to tell the world. More power to you bro 💪

[@aibi5532]

@Jack Wrath what's this dumb comment?

[@LaughingLegoBrick]

@Jack Wrath oh no you said cry about it what am i gonna do? (Obviously report you)

[@plague8953]

@Jack Wrath thats why you're in his comment section

[@darthraider450]

Problem is he went after the wrong target. You can easily progress fast and be very competitive for free in Pokemon Unite, and what made it worse is he was trying to progress with one of the worst characters in the game - Charizard, whose early game Charmander and Charmeleon are trash.

[@pyanek]

@@darthraider450 I think you're focusing on the wrong aspect of the video. The practices Arun talks about are all over the game industry, it's a common business model. He just used some games as examples, and he didn't say it was a practice specific to pokemon unite. Also, even if you can progress in the game for free, it doesn't change the fact that they employ all these tactics to subconsciously manipulate people.

[@tejasgid7646]

This is the channel which gives the most right information on so many tech topics. But now it has stepped up to create awareness as well. I love how Arun is trying to make everyone aware of the digital world and escape from its ill effects.

[@Brottisgood]

​@Jack Wrath ratio, bot

[@jeffreyoliva5361]

@Mrwhosetheboss Is Better Than @Jackwrath! Cry About It Jack Wrath.🤣🤣😂😂

[@brodyroberts5230]

Pokemon unite is completely free to play and is not pay to win in any way. You can get the highest rank without items almost as easy as without. The items do do things, but they barely change stats

[@lazytachyeon]

Wait until he plays genshin impact for a bit

[@stephen7461]

@@brodyroberts5230 agree, im a f2p player and able to go master rank no holowears, level 20 held items ...

[@DylanJayIgnacio-sh6dr]

spending money in a f2p games whew, i was also a victim of this, but then i realized that when he said that you'll get players who are also spenders, i said those spenders are more experienced players. Basically you just get paired with weak allies and stronger enemies and vice versa

[@CedarsPC]

We need a government who grew up with the gaming industry. Not only will these problems begin to be cared for. but also we will have a much better quality of life with them understanding of gamification in real life.

[@ek6352]

I have poured a total of 700 hours during lockdown into such mobile games and i have finally left playing. This video is absolutely on point on why players spend so much money. It's the time and love they put in the game and when they land in a situation where they have to spend money, they do it. Lockdown was indeed a dark time in my life and i can proudly say I left these games for the good. All I want to say is you should keep yourselves at a distance from mobile games.

[@adamcheeseplease]

Well done for taking the step to get your life back on track! Sorry lockdown was so hard on you

[@Lidia__]

Well not all mobile games are bad, it's just important to know what u rlly want and not spend cuz u feel preassured to. I'm glad you got out of that mentality and if that meant stopping to play the game as a whole then that worked for you!