How Much Ammo Is Enough For SHTF | Civil Unrest Prepping

[@YELLOW617.]

Instructions unclear. I ended up buying 100 30rd magazines.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

With a result like that, I’d say the instructions were very clear 😂😂 I wish I owned 100 mags

[@w0263495]

😅

[@JohnDoe-dv9yl]

Your on the right track

[@chuckironsight3914]

same i bought a reloading press and 16lbs of powder along with rest of components. i was never really good with directions

[@T20-c8f]

Hahaha my man! I like to get myself 10 mags for my AR and 10 mags for my Glock 34 every year on my birthday. It’s not that expensive to do it once a year

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

Goals: 10,000 5.56 stockpiled 3,000 308/6.5cm/300blk 3,000 9mm 3,000 for yearly training at most, 30,000 22lr for so much more!!

[@chanc9737]

556 OVER 10K 6.5CM ABOUT 3K 9MM OVER 4K .22LR 6K ROUNDS 10MM 500 SMOKES, FLASHBANGS

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

@chanc9737 and a few lbs of c4? 🤫

[@bennoah2083]

@@skydivingcomrade1648 no just some ceramic dogs filled with tannerite. Lol

[@danlong9730]

are you storing them at room temperature or in hot garage? How much damage if I store them airtight in hot garage?

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

@danlong9730 all good questions... cool, dry, dark, o2 removed.

[@Dylan.More-Veiny]

5:05 “260 dollars” Me: *aggressively spits out mouthful of beer* “Where the f*** can I get 1,000 rounds of 5.56 for 260 dollars?!?! I’m buying it right now!!” *sees he’s talking about 9mm* “Oh”

[@michaelfranks341]

Cheapest I have found 1k 5.56 is $500

[@kimchicowboy5053]

@@michaelfranks341 missed out on Southern Defense for 420ish shipped for 1k, snagged 2 of them

[@Kghost0311]

😂😂😂😅

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

😂😂 sorry man

[@PrayingPanda]

You do realize, pre-rona, wolf gold was 260 for a case....

[@mehGyver]

(For grid down/ civil war/ apocalypse event) I was once told that for every round you expect to send at someone, you should expect one coming back at you. Now extrapolate that into the 100s or 1000s of rounds, and then calculate your odds of surviving that many gunfights. Food for thought.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Interesting and great food for thought. I personally don’t want to have any conflicts if things get chaotic, and want to avoid it at all costs. I’m not an expert at gun fighting (never been in one) but I’m sure there is a method to the madness. Great comment!

[@DC-bk6ep]

@@ConcreteCowboyxmy gunfight had a ratio of bad guy 2 rounds. Me 25 rounds.

[@youngmonkey2504]

Thats reasonable but better to be prepared!! And if you have more ammo you can arm more people on your side

[@mehGyver]

@@youngmonkey2504 Oh, I agree 100%. I've been stocking up for over a decade. Sure hope I never have to bugout, because I'm not lugging hundreds of pounds of ammo with me! LOL

[@youngmonkey2504]

@@mehGyver lol right on man hell yeah

[@David-jo2wr]

I can respect the anonymity in some of the newer gun KZbinrs.

[@agent_smith...]

We carried 8 mags with 1 in the rifle when deployed for our M4s. None of us had pistols only officers and the medics had those. Buy as many mags as possible. They break and get damaged with hard use. You could lose them running or other things could happen. Stockpile the calibers that you would be using if on the run. (Meaning what you would carry.) I have a couple dozen different caliber rifles and pistols. I dont put my money into crazy off the wall calibers that I wont be carrying or are hard to find. For me its 556 and 9mm/45acp. My older cz, makarov, P90, etc that take a specialized caliber thats crazy expensive I will buy ammo when I want to shoot. Another point, use common calibers and rifles that you would find out there. AK, AR15, Glocks, 1911, Sig, etc. Battlefield pickups are a real thing. Dont go out there with something that takes proprietary mags that if you lose or get damaged cant be replaced. Buy a rifle of your choice and dont worry about optics right away. If you can get them..then great. When I first went into the Army we didnt have Eotechs or Trijicons and had to use iron sights. The stock sights are viable to use and in some cases will be better. Buy a rifle and a pistol then 500-1000 rounds of ammo. I go to the gun store every couple weeks and buy a couple mags for pistols and rifles. ($50-75) That is how you stock pile slowly. If you can buy a bunch off the jump then great. A shotgun is probably another overlooked weapon if you can get it. Grab a pump remington or mossberg used for around $200 and that will get you started. A shotgun is very versatile because of the different types of ammo it can use. The main thing is dont panic buy and use all your money on guns. There are other things to buy as well to keep you safe.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

A LOT of great points made in this comment. Very grateful that you shared this

[@dgapp76]

This is sound advice. My philosophy is buy common calibers and anything that uses interchangable magazines. For example, lots of manufacturers have 9mm ARs that use Glock mags so that works out pretty good. Stay aware, stay strapped and stay safe. Peace.

[@yngchino1130]

Remember no body has ever said “damn I have to much ammo”

[@ExtremelyAverageMan]

*too

[@marcspence1905]

Tell that to the Machine gunners unloading at first contact.

[@jki808]

I see your point but yes they absolutely have. If you ever need to move with it, it can weigh a lot. Not trying to go back and forth, again, I understand your message. The statement itself is not true tho

[@daveh777]

I have an interesting neighbor that made it to the 1 million mark on 5.56 a few years back. It's all in 55gal. drums.😅. Good neighbor to have I guess.😊

[@Mastersnake392]

There was a company that would sell ammo by the barrel, heard a lot of the rounds at the bottom would be damaged though due to the weight of the ammo on top

[@MichaelMiller-op5sx]

​@@Mastersnake392Bottom of the barrel ammo

[@Bt2tymz]

Absolutely loving this channel, your knowledge has helped me learn so much more about guns and your so well spoken

[@Maelstrom8]

Great video and topic as usual. Really loving the more frequent posting schedule as of late. Keep em coming, Cowboy!

[@justinallen8265]

Concrete Cowboy, solid videos from you Brother. Keep them coming! As some others have said, I have the ammo as well as components for reloading. One of the things that I will stress is make sure to store you shtf stockpile appropriately. I use desiccant packets in my sealed ammo cans as well as keeping a consistent temp. Again, thanks for dedicating your knowledge to everyone!

[@dreadnaughttactical]

I have been buying guns and ammo since the 80's.. and old schoolers like myself at some point have probably all gone through trying to cut down and minimize on the amount of different calibers that you own, shoot, reload and stockpile for at some point along the way. Many new gun owners make that mistake of trying to own a firearm in every single caliber out there.. and that is NOT the key to having a well rounded collection and you just end up with having a big collection of firearms most of which you dont ever shoot because you can never find ammo or simply because they are just not among your top favorite firearms to shoot - so then you find yourself asking the question.. "why do I even own it.. if I never ever shoot it?.. and whenever I do shoot it.. I find myself wanting to shoot something else that I enjoy more" - Safe Queens that just sit in the safe and look pretty are useless.. stockpile ammo for the firearms that you shoot and train with! I have a 8mm Mauser.. it sits in my safe and does absolutely nothing.. it is the only firearm that I own in 8mm.. and it is the last gun I would ever grab if I heard a bump in the night and the last gun I would ever want in a SHTF situation - I have only a few boxes of ammo for it.. and I rarely ever shoot it. Do I really need this firearm? - only for collection purposes. Do I need to stockpile 10,000 rounds for it? - Hell no! If you have a quality AR in 5.56x45/.223.. do you really need to get one in .224 Valkyrie and 6.5 Grendel and .300 BlkOut and 7.62x39 and 350 Legend and 450 Bushmaster and 50 Beowulf and 458 Socom and 6 Arc.. and every other caliber that can be found in the AR platform? - Trying to keep and maintain a stockpile of a few 1000 rounds of each of those calibers will cost you a small fortune! (and kinda makes no sense especially when some of those calibers have very similar ballistic results anyways!) It is much better In my opinion to have different rifles in different configurations and barrel lengths that all serve different purposes and that all share the same common caliber.. than to have a bunch of different rifles that all shoot different calibers - for example an AR-10 and a Scar 17 and a KelTec RDB Bullpup and a Ruger American bolt action and a Remington 7600 pump action are all 5 very different firearms yet can ALL share the same .308 ammo.. making thing a lot easier on that new collector who might be on a budget while trying to build up his collection - buying 10,000 rounds of bulk 308 ammo compared to buying 2000 rounds of 5 different types of ammo could end up costing you TWICE as much for a 10,000 round stockpile. If you are RICH and can afford to buy anything and everything that you see and want.. then totally IGNORE every single word that I wrote above.. and continue doing your thing playa! C.R.E.A.M. - and if you got it like that.. you got it like that! (just leave a little something on the shelves for the rest of us poorer folks!) Quality over Quantity is still always the key. Salute!

[@newdefsys]

A standard AR-15 can last about 7500 rounds before it requires a complete rebuild. If you own just a single AR, you dont _"need"_ more ammo than that. Having a spare complete upper receiver, (along with a rebuild kit for the lower receiver), you will be good to go for another 7500 rounds. A lower receiver usually lasts about 30,000 rounds before it starts to fail the gauge inspection. For 30k rounds, you will need> 1: 1 complete AR-15 Rifle. 2: 3 complete spare uppers. 3: 3 lower receiver rebuild kits. You will also need spare optics and spare accessories - (weapon lights, laser aimers, etc) along with spare batteries, and spare furniture pieces. And some small miscellaneous items (detents and detent springs, roll pins, extractor kits, ejector kits, firing pins, buffer tubes, end plates, castle nuts & gas tubes). If you need more than 30,000 rounds you are probably up to your eyeballs in the apocalypse and may God have mercy on your soul.

[@FraldinhoBJJ]

lol a Daniel defense or LMT or a geissele would easily go 20,000 rounds . That’s why you don’t buy PSA

[@662gunman]

Hey I bought a radical arms and it's my only AR 15 it has 7.5 barrel how long do you think it will last I mean bout how many rounds u think it will hold up before it needs work?

[@MichaelMiller-op5sx]

​@@662gunmanI have the same it likes the Hornady black 556 69 and 75gr. Or the pmc 62gr 855 green tip lap. Have at least 1000 rds.

[@MichaelMiller-op5sx]

​@@662gunmanradical are well built for the money keep it clean and oiled and it should last at least 10,000 rds no problem

[@662gunman]

@@MichaelMiller-op5sx man appreciate it I don't shoot it much and I keep it clean glad to kno it will last long enough for me thanks again and be safe I got bout 500 rds and like 10 mags and a 60rd Magpul D60 drum I'ma try and get at least 2000 rounds put up for it 👍🏿

[@scoutndad1941]

Ammo, magazines, ammo cans filled with ammo on strippee clips and then 2 tools per caliber for backup and interchangeability. Backup optics, batteries, backup BCGs, buffer springs, and then a spare 16 and 10” barrel. The list goes on. Just prioritize and accumulate slowly if you have to.

[@Kwameee01]

these consistent uploads are golden🙌🏽👌🏽

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Trying hard my guy!

[@shaivahnparsons3244]

Agreed with the point about magazine based ammo counts because ammo is useless unless its ready to use. In the military minimum first line was around 300 rounds on your person (10x 30 rnd magazines) and then 800-1000 rounds stowed for reloading in a pack. Sustainment would require also having a way of replenishing ammo stocks in SHTF such as a reloader in the community and using common calibres that can easily be located in a pinch.

[@ammoman_]

VERY important topic, and I think your approach was fair. Inspiring me to maybe cover something similar. Good stuff my man.

[@coreyperez13]

Sound advice. Greatly appreciated. I often speak of how my wife was annoyed at my constant 'Winchester white box' purchases at Walmart. Every time I walked by the counter I picked up a box of 9mm and .22lr at 9.98 a box. Who's giggling now? :)

[@tarheelrealist8935]

Solid S2 here...another item, and it's relatively cheap, to augment your load out is a bandolier; pull the bottom string and viola, you just increased your mag count by four.

[@erickaesman4001]

Great video with food for thought. Some are complaining they dont have 'defensive rounds' Hmmm. as long as the round goes bang when I pull the trigger Im happy. Something to think about, 99% of us wont have a medevac bird to extract us or a whole surgical team waiting if we get hit. This wont be Call of Duty and we're not assaulting a position with a team we have trained with. We need to avoid contact and break contact if necessary. Have lots of ammo to defend yours elf and loved ones. Stay under the radar.

[@aaronfilipowich3877]

Something you might want to look at if your looking to increase your magazine carrying capacity is Ammoback. Its a Canadian company that makes small backpacks that can hold 6 or 10 magazines depending on the model. Also they have molle so you can stack them for even more.

[@MartiBrawghghgh]

Ye, I keep all my ammo in .50 cal ammo cans and have 2 to fit 1k rounds of 5.56 in each can so when I run out of one I then know I need to place an order for another 1k rds. Same thing for 9mm except 2k can fit in 1 can so 4k rds total for 9mm! I learned my lesson too from 2020!

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

I feel like we all got burned in 2020. And now I’m hoping to help others avoid that heartache lol

[@mpmattronome]

Good advice there cowboy. I just started my venture about 1 year ago. I got into my local range as a memeber which saved money. They have a member's appreciation restock program. We get cases of the blazer on the low. I try to stay above 3000 rounds for each caliber at all times so far. Hit the range 2 times weekly. Depending on the drills and caliber I'm working I could shoot 50 rounds. Or 200 in a session. My shot and confidence have come along nicely. I have only practiced in a no pressure environment and under my own direction. I'd love to get into some movement and pressure situations to see how I'd react and perform. but yea. Good video dude. I'll keep an eye on ya.

[@jjr929]

Same here. Best for you to come in your Growths

[@Zhurak]

In SHTF situation the first you thing anyone would do is hunker down in place. your home will initially be your best chance for survival. Obviously not for a tsunami or storm threat but im talking about civil unrest or martial laws scenario. Having to grab and go is a last ditch effort that you want to avoid, so the real question is not how much ammo can you carry, its how much water can you carry...

[@alexgrinage]

Thats different water is as much as possible but depends on were u live too. Those tub watter blatters are cool. 4-5 jugs of and 4-5 cases at home will get you through a few days and portable

[@briankendall1978]

Just grab a box or 2 once a week. I stop by RK and grab a box after lunch on Sunday.

[@Chevygang23LT]

Also a good practice is when you go to the range, buy double of what you shoot that day. For instance, yesterday I shot 200 rounds of my .22lr because it is deart cheap. (Even here in L.I) so I will go buy 400 rounds the next time I go to the store. I do understand that for the bigger rounds that gets expensive. But I don’t think people are going out and shooting 200 rounds of 6.5 Creedmoor on a single Saturday!

[@j_flo]

I’ve got 308 fever 🇺🇸🦅🕑A

[@christophermozeleski7149]

I keep a ruger 10/22 with two mags on it next to my bed. I was able to buy a few different large boxes of ammo for it about 5 or 6 years ago. The boxes were 555 rounds. And they were nice and cheap back then.

[@williewasahippie]

The cheapest solution is to have a lot of .22 LR ammo for when you run out of your 5.56/.223, 9mm, .40 S&W, and shotgun shells... Also, .22 LR is super light and you can carry a lot easily. Additionally, if you have a wife and kids, it's easier for them to shoot and super accurate.

[@broderman5]

I would go to my lgs once a week to slowly build up my stockpile like you suggested. The only problem is that they mark up their prices so much higher than what you can find online. I understand they have to make money, but it's kinda crazy even at the big box stores. I wouldn't mind if it was 1 to 5 cents more per round, but in most cases it's closer to 10 cents or more difference. And buying in bulk sucks because you have to come up with over $500 for rifle ammo all at once.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

I get where you’re coming from. But once you account for shipping online. The cents per round usually equates to the same amount. At a local store they account for not having to ship. But I do find some pretty crazy deals online sometimes that I absolutely attack

[@Tavis15ify]

Cries looking at prices of .308

[@rico989]

SGAmmo is good free shipping on orders over $200. True shot is local to me so I pick up ammo in person

[@broderman5]

​@@rico989 oh yeah I look at ammo seek religiously. Comparing my lgs and even a nearby Cabela's for PMC m855 to stuff you can find online is crazy. It's like 52cpr online after tax with free shipping, lgs and Cabela's are almost 75cpr after tax

[@declineofthewest.]

@@rico989SG’s state tax fees are a deal breaker for me. The taxes are higher than shipping costs.

[@shauneasterbrook5089]

You’re fast becoming one of my favorite gon KZbinr

[@GuardDawg87]

No matter how many mags you have it's just a good idea to buy more from time to time

[@ColdGrapeDrink]

Finally a black dude posting gun videos on YT that actually knows what hes talking about 😂

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

There are many others haha, but I appreciate that!

[@some-random-idiot6853]

Collion noir is pretty good too

[@PrayingPanda]

Plenty out there. Don't be racist

[@Operatoroveralls]

Guerillas in the mist are good dudes as well.

[@ColdGrapeDrink]

@@some-random-idiot6853 collion, prob the biggest lame in the gun world.

[@xxavi213]

My rule of thumb is every time I go to the gun store either to browse or buy parts I always leave with 1-2 magazines or 1-2 boxes of ammo that’s just me especially if your on a budget

[@PoliticallyInsensitive]

Normally Aim Surplus has PMC X-Tac 5.56 for around 10.00/bx. Instead of buying weekly put $50 into a separate account. Once you hit 250-300; make a 500rd purchase.

[@kimchicowboy5053]

My issue is I have a lot of fmj ammo in 223/556 and 9mm. But not a ton of defensive rounds on rifle (1k green tips and some loose soft points), and maybe couple hundred match grade. As far as hollow points for 9mm im decent one. .308 have 300 rounds of soft points. Imho long range is where I will try to find myself as cqb is a death wish. Great video man! Think it is also important, if you have the mags... keep them loaded at all times.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

All my mags stay loaded, even in my storage haha. And I have more fmj than hollow points for sure, so I get that

[@np4057]

In a rifle round it really doesn’t matter if it’s FMJ or hollow point the damage will be devastating. FMJ will also be better for piercing armor. Hollow point is obviously “better” at wound cavity but with rifle speeds you’ll get crazy damage either way.

[@cadbane1093]

Green tips are what run best in my 1/7 for cheap That’s what I stock on.

[@Gadsdenflag]

Just use the 55 fmj rounds to train with from now on and start to stockpile 77 grain OTM and you will be good to go. Hold onto those green tip rounds bc they are useful for situations where barriers are blocking the target. They also perform a lot better than most people think they do.

[@GramKracker88]

I also think about the rounds being used for bartering. In a real SHTF money is last on the priority list for most, ammo would be a great bartering tool if you have enough :)

[@JT--XL365]

also learning to reload is helpful to if your budget allows for it.

[@king_Charles501]

I normally keep enough ammo to keep all my mags full and refill them if needed. Training wise is were I need to increase the quality of my training. I ran through alot of my ammo this year which was good. I plan on doing the same next year but better quality training.

[@jessesmith438]

depends on your circumstance and plan. In a city an likely will have to evacuate? 7 mags and enough ammo for to reload them. In the country or in a secure location? Whatever you can stuff into your house.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Yep! It all depends!

[@andycole5957]

If you know you are in a must bug out kind of place, know where you are going to bug out to; then 1,000rds is a really small box, and any real friend would gladly let you put a few someplace on their farm.

[@nathanskupowski4726]

I delicate just under $300 a month for ammo. It allows me to get 100 rounds of 77gr 556, 200 rounds of 55gr 556, and 100 round of 9mm

[@ryanpatton5937]

AAC ammo is nothing to sleep on i love there 77gr otm 5.56

[@Gadsdenflag]

It’s legit for sure. When PSA has the 77 otm on sale for 10.99 I figured out you can order exactly 20 boxes and the shipping is still 9.99$ so that’s what I do 😂

[@ryanpatton5937]

@@Gadsdenflag thanks for letting me know that $9.99 shipping for that much ammo is a deal

[@nothingbutnut2767]

Another practical solution would be to estimate how frequently you shoot X caliber compared to another and stockpile based off of that. For example, if I shoot 5.56 four times as frequently as 9mm it would make more sense to have four times the amount of 5.56 on hand as I do 9mm. This way it's more of a use-case representative storage system. It doesn't make sense to have 1,000 rounds of .308 and 5.56 if I'm only shooting say 200 rounds of .308 every month, but I'm burning through all 1,000 5.56 rounds on a monthly basis.

[@KSH243]

When you order bulk don’t forget a decent gift card for your UPS person around the holidays.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

This is a genius idea

[@Craig_N]

Naw they getting 6 figures now so they can just do their job.

[@BranniganCarter]

I buy ammo each paycheck. 2-3 20rd boxes of 5.56 and a 50rd box of 9mm. Go to the range at least once a month

[@mickjones2871]

Academy Sports will regularly have Blazer Brass on sale for 12.99.

[@thomkabelis880]

Excellent video! First video I have seen of yours, very well done. I couldn't smash that like and subscribe button fast enough. I am definitely sharing your video with my brothers. Keep yup the good work!

[@zact9941]

I stopped stockpiling loaded ammo. Now I stockpile components. I measure said stockpile in terms of “years of matches”. I’m rated A/M with a rifle and now starting my handgun journey in D. For a rifle I “only” need 1.5k- 2k a year.

[@irakennington9701]

My rule has always been have enough ammo on hand to fill all your magazines twice. And thats not the ammo you train with. Thats just your emergency supply.

[@guylozito7041]

I really feel bad for people that have to buy factory ammo. I’ve been reloading for 10 years and started prior to all of the Covid shortages. The irony is that I can load a 75/77 grain 5.56 for .28, but loading 9mm rounds still costs about .21. It’s just the breakdown of the components and the fact that primers are at best .07 each. Can’t get around that. But your video is good advice for those who don’t reload.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

I would love to get into reloading! Just haven’t invested in it yet. I want to experiment with different loads like Walter Sobchak Security

[@guylozito7041]

@ It’s definitely an investment, and it becomes a sickness. I’ll have to watch the Walter channel. There’s also Johnny’s reloading bench, who did great videos but has since stopped posting. But I modeled his Black Hills loads and pretty much have the same results. Good Luck

[@Seseous]

Have you gotten into casting your own bullets? I am able to bring 9mm down to .13 per round with that. Pre-Covid I was able to do it for .06! Definitely helps when you're a high-volume shooter.

[@maj.kamper9314]

Where are you getting powder from for good prices?

[@guylozito7041]

@ I kind of lucked out last year with a LGS. They were liquidating pound size powder. I was getting PP Varmint, Win 296, H110, W748, and BLC2 for 35 a pound. My bank account suffered for a few months but I loaded up with enough for quite a few years. Other than that, i try to find no hazmat sales and buy 8# qty of things like A2520. That works out to around 40 a pound. I can’t justify buying the “great” powders like Varget or H4350 for 65 plus a pound so I’m using what works for a variety of calibers.

[@mfngaming5630]

I feel like this video could've just been a number.

[@jimbeef6633]

Every time I ruck march I realize how unrealistic this is For most folks I would say a pistol and a few magazines. Why? Because they aren’t in combat shape. And how likely are we to be rucking around full kit w/ battle rifle in hand. It’s America what happens in Maine doesn’t affect Kansas. Better off focusing on the basic and training. Most SHTf situations that happen a person has there CCW on them and the rifle is gets left home or the truck. It’s a fantasy thinking people are gonna put down their beer. Gear up and be ready. Not to mention your enemy combatant will likely have the same caliber as you. Take there’s.

[@BrandonTheBoyWonder]

Same thought I had. Even when I go hike and carry my hellcat with 2 extra mags, I can clearly feel the added weight. When I go to the range I have 3 hand guns, about 13 loaded mags and 300 extra rounds of 9mm. That backpack feels like I have a 30pound weight in it. Trying to carry that and everything else when shit hits the fan….😅

[@TheOutsider69]

No. People should stockpile as much as they can anyways so I can find secret loot rooms spread throughout the U.S. like in The Last of Us.

[@Rotnoc473]

Reloading should also not be overlooked. It depends on the caliber, but generally speaking a brand new load (buying brass powder primers and projectiles) can tend to be cheaper than classic ammo. If your reloading ammo, then I’ve found it to be roughly half as much per round. Often times brass is the most expensive part of ammo. It could also be a good opportunity to invest in good, and long lasting brass for better results than the cheapest ball ammo. Also, the ability to reload ammo gives you more options when there are supply shortages (for one reason or another) and reloading supplies are generally less restricted than regular ammo.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

I hear this a lot so it must be and efficient way to save ammo. My thing is, is that the start up cost seems to be a lot.

[@Rotnoc473]

@@ConcreteCowboyx It for sure can be. you can spend an almost infinite amount of money on the nicest progressive press with all the bell and whistles. But you can also get a $200 Hornady lock n load, some cheap dies, a priming tool, a cheap scale and maybe a resizing drill bit. With all of this, you might be approaching a little over $300. This difference of this would be made up very quickly on the scale of thousands of rounds. Especially with something like 5.56 where you might be saving upwards of 20 cents a round.

[@andycole5957]

I find for 9mm and 223, it's not worth it money wise. I stopped reloading for those, except for 9mm for my open class competition pistol, cause I've dialed those in to be the softest shooting for competition. When I did the math on those I was maybe saving 1c per round, maybe; compared to buying in bulk. Now for a lot of less popular calibers, and especially larger calibers, oh hell yes! I save full dollars per round reloading 338LM! After living through a few ammo shortages now though, I do keep a couple years worth of primers on hand, so if supplies dry up or they get too expensive, I can start again.

[@oreillysc1]

There are so many ways SHTF can go that it’s hard to say. Are we talking power outage and no food in grocery stores for two weeks or a flood and your back home in 3 days or a civil war were you won’t get anymore rounds for a year and there are constant firefights. 3 days every mag full could work the civil war probably 10k or 20k or more

[@robertgoodrich8953]

Many ammo dealers allow Sezzle or Affirm or Afterpay to finance ammo Purchases. I have gone from buying 5 boxes at a time to 500-1000 rounds at a time. Makes it less painful to stock up.

[@hateferlife]

Good data. Be sure to store it appropriately!

[@QTIP95]

Also, stock up on high quality defensive ammo not FMJs. FMJs are for training, THAT IS IT! My goal currently is to fill all 7 mags in my kit with quality rounds. For ARs look into Hornady Superformace VMax, Fort Scott TUI, etc. for handguns get some good hollow points. If I’m in a life or death situation, I’d rather have the best ammo available

[@sicarrioh3395]

FMJ's are not just for training. FMJ's are used all around the world for both training and self defense. In some parts of Europe HP ammo is illegal even for law enforcement. There is a movie called Full Metal Jacket for a reason.

[@QTIP95]

@ yeah they’re used by militaries because The Hague convention prevents the use of expanding rounds in international warfare. We as civilians do not abide by those laws. I want rounds that inflict the most damage on a target. FMJs have awful terminal ballistics. They poke holes and keep going. They can tumble if they hit bone or something but I want something that guarantees a large wound cavity

[@PatrickHenry-y5h]

Having too many calibers can be counterproductive to achieving this goal. I had to get rid of some calibers. Good video, first time here, I will subscribe.

[@jardinero9112]

As much as possible. Better to have and not need, than need and not have.

[@llhosall7735]

For what is worth I’ve told my group in the short term your need 330 rounds for a single combat load of up to 11 mags Longer term 660 We’ve been prepping for awhile so we all are in the thousands now If you survive through using 2 combat loads you are doing incredibly well

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

I like this advice. I have the most out of my friends group, but I plan on helping them get their numbers up

[@CiviTac]

For duty ammo I just hold 1000rds of 77gr, 500 rounds of 147gr HP. I always have 2-3k of 55gr and 124gr all the time that I shoot through. Always have 2 full loadouts of ammo in loaded mags for your kit. I run 10 rifle and 3 pistol on kit which means I have 20 loaded rifle mags of 77gr and 6 of glonk mags

[@TacticalBuffoonary]

Buy online from sellers offering free shipping or no tax or both. Gun stores usually overcharge and big box stores are way overpriced.

[@edtpnw1336]

There will be plenty of standard rounds laying around on the ground along side some high priced equipment.

[@FloridaManChowder]

I have always liked the number 10

[@mohammedjabir3790]

Great. Content easy follow. It makes perfect sense. 😎

[@robertbickers2481]

I have well past 100 30rd rifle mags all loaded and feel pretty comfortable with it but still find myself continuing to buy more mags and ammo every chance I get lmao

[@steve84113]

I can comfortably carry 12 30rd magazines. 6 in a magazine bandoleer in my backpack, 3 on my chest, 2 on my battle belt and 1 in the rifle. Also have 2 pistol mags on my chest, 2 on my belt and 1 in the pistol.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Sounds like you stay in shape!

[@ryanwaddell6278]

Got Batmans load out.😎

[@Gadsdenflag]

I found the runner I want on my squad. 😂

[@breakyourguitar9708]

Great vid. Very realistic. Subscribed!

[@DadHominem]

PS - If the new administration relaxes ammo import rules (and firearm import rules), I HIGHLY recommend buying some to stash away. I recall buying steel core, brass cased ammo for the AK for around $75 per 1,000 in the early 1990's. Before Clinton was in office, 7.62x39 could be had for $49 a 1,000 round case. I reloaded 5.56 until the early 90's, but I recall it being about $180 a 1,000 when I began purchasing by the case. Point being, stock up when prices drop. Over time, ammo outpaces inflation - particularly when the halls of power are filled with those hostile to the 2A. Set it aside in a closet (or similar) where you have a stable environment.

[@rrjsc]

Carry enough that can fit in a backpack. Maybe store a stash in an undisclosed location. When SHTF, there's a good chance you need to evacuate your current living situation. Having more than you can carry on the fly is a waste.

[@everettrhay4855]

Forward force projection in shtf is undoubtedly important and a well stocked ammo locker being a integral component. As a comment posted here mentioned a house fire. This is why I have the largest ABC fire extinguisher’s available to the public in every room of my house. Now everyone’s trained and can effectively use one, this was cheaper than another high dollar AR build. Clint Smith has some good content on this subject.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

I think this is VERY important. Didn’t think about that and now I have some things I need to switch around for my ammo storage! Good stuff here

[@blznmtl]

I have 5k rounds of 5.56 goin down as I go to the range on Saturdays but it goes 1500 of AAC 77g otm 2k of 62g green tip and 1500 of 55g rounds to train with and I have 1000 rounds of 9mm

[@treloughfarrer7604]

Solid video bud you definitely are a channel I look forward when I see new uploads

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Yo I appreciate that!

[@zaddy737]

I have 13,000 9mm 1,500 .45 3,000 .308 5,000 5.56 1,000 12g 18,000 .22 500 .410 1,500 .300blk 1,000 30-06 This is just mine and my friends store the excess here since they store their gear here outside of their main kit and an extra for a guest in their homes so double every caliber except the .410 as that's just my palm pistol ammo

[@DadHominem]

Depends. Assuming you have a 5.56 AR, a 9mm pistol, and a 12 gauge, then a decent supply would be 2,000 for your primary rifle, 1,000 for pistol, and at least 750 for the 12 (500 00-buck and 250 slugs). Ammo is a commodity that you'll be able to trade, so stockpiling "too much" isn't really an issue. This assumes you have a community of like-minded (and skilled) people who also want to survive the SHTF, and you have plenty of other necessities.

[@firstimeshooter6590]

One thing I used to do is when ever I got ammo to go shoot I would buy that same amount to store. But it’s harder to do that now😅

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

The prices are brutal out here!

[@highdesertdrew1844]

A "combat load" is usually 6 magazines +1 in the gun. If you have a reload, say a 6-mag bandolier, or 2 of the M855 bandoliers with the strings pulled, most people are looking at 13-15 mags total. Most AR mags are ~1lb. So ~15lb weight budget. Pistol... 3 mags + 1 in the gun, and say 2bx of 50? Grand total that's ~450 rounds of 5.56, and 161 (17rd mags) of 9mm. I usually like to keep plenty of ammo so I can go shoot matches and train, It's kinda funny you point out "you don't shoot that much in matches" I've done a few recently, where I shot less than 20 rounds the whole 3 hour match. I think what some people may not appreciate is that ammo stockpile is your gift to future you. I was digging around looking for some camping gear and found another stash of ammo I bought just as things were going pear shaped for the coof. Thanks 2020 me! There are a lot of strategies out there, one thing I suggest is finding some decent 9mm hollowpoints and stashing those. Come SHTF, I'd rather not be carrying ball ammo.

[@brucecranford0824]

"Buy all the ammo". Yes sir. Got it. 😂

[@Jms515]

Enough to get off the X and live another day is enough for shtf

[@rmichaelzachary8574]

Let's say SHTF is a 5 year period. You'll have at least one monthly encounter of fight and flight. The more ammo you have the higher the chance you have of making it to the next challenge. 300 rounds a month minimum, ~3600 rounds a year, roughly 20000 rounds to survive SHTF scenario. If you're just talking about serious LA/BLM/Detroit 67 rioting for a month at most - min. 5000 rounds.

[@damonharrington2948]

Personally I am not shooting matches or long range therefore I buy 55 grain .223 or 5.56 for training (7000 rounds). It is still lethal for SHTF! I do have a few hundred 62 & 77 grain defensive or match (buying more 62 gr). I shoot more 9mm FMJ as I’m handgun focused in training currently (7000+) with 600+ JHP’s (need more)!

[@Lorenzow33]

I try to buy those 9MM bulk case whenever I can. Just recently got into the AR side of things. It’s so hard to stock up on that 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@rebbull11b]

Reloading is viable for Gucci calibers and training ammo. I have over 20k 9mm rounds reloaded stock pile them for barter and training.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Ok I really need to get into reloading

[@montyjackson9905]

The prepper meme is back 🤣

[@MichaelCarrPilot]

If you’re talking about saving $$$, why are you buying by the box, at the range, instead of in bulk like the 9mm you mentioned for $260/1000?

[@Paralius]

Here’s how I’ve been doing it: 1000 rounds MINIMUM for each gun I have… The only reason I say that is because if you have a pistol with let’s say 5 mags for your belt. That’s about 75 rounds right there. You’re hopefully never going through all 5 mags the entire duration of the shtf scenario. I’d say at most you’ll encounter 1 maybe 2 firefights in a year if you’re unlucky. And hopefully you gtfo after the first mag. But being able to trade ammo and top off your mags those 1000 rounds now become more than just for shooting

[@Sebrof3]

My man! I always say 1-2k rds. per rifle ( per caliber ) minimum...and 500/750 rds. per handgun rd. Our combat loadout was 8 mags. (7 full & 1 in ) I carried 5 extra...anywhere I could fit them!

[@shanebatten6473]

I used to keep one or 2 boxes for each caliber before Obama was president. Then bc of ammo shortages I began stockpiling it and myself or my wife would buy 1-2 boxes every time we went somewhere that had ammo in stock back then. Now I typically buy in bulk. Also another topic I’ve brought up to some of my friends is I keep at least 1 gun that shoots each of the most popular ammo so you can always scavenge ammo in a SHTF scenario if need be. Maybe unrealistic but hey you never know and it never hurts to have options.

[@HamuraiC-137]

Are you staying in one location? Then you will probably be maneuvered on and killed at some point. Are you keeping it moving? Then you need to be light, a couple thousand rounds in a vehicle but no more than 300 on dismount

[@Paralyzed-rm6vc]

2-3 boxes a week or set the cash aside and wait till a bulk deal holidays are around the corrner

[@rickycherry9052]

Just found your channel, enjoying the content for sure. What shirt is that button down green one?

[@45s262]

It just seems like the days of a semi pistol being enough for self defense is long, long, long gone.. you got guys loaded up with 20 mags and a rifle now.. and more. I'd say the cats out the bag..

[@williamdurdin1964]

I love collecting ammo

[@billydanzz]

Everybody on those AAC 77otm's! The poor man's mk262...lol No magic number to have for SHTF. Get as much as one can get. Caveat however!..... The odds of someone surviving enough 2-way engagements to burn through 1 case of ammo alone; is highly unlikely.

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Hey don’t hate on my AAC 😂😂 And I agree, get as much as you can!

[@billydanzz]

@@ConcreteCowboyx Yessir! I load up every time it hits that .55 sale. Sub/notifications/like buttons all smashed btw!

[@mtnbound2764]

i keep half my AR mags New in packaging, that way i know they are not worn out. i do the 2/1 purchase /savings ratio with mags and ammo. buy 2 mags, one for practice/ shooting and one goes in storage, same for ammo, if i buy 200 rounds, I shoot 100 and save 100. over time you get to both shoot and stock.

[@512productions3]

I'm paranoid, I'd worry about failure if I broke out a mag I hadn't field tested in an emergency

[@mtnbound2764]

@@512productions3 ive never had a pmag not work out of the bag, if so, its ok , there's another behind that one!

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Very similar to what I do. Keeps things moving in a positive direction

[@ConcreteCowboyx]

Pmags are VERY reliable. I too have never had one fail straight out of the bag. But I definitely understand where you are coming from

[@cle5823]

I don't know about stock piling FMJ's for SHTF. I know they're better than nothing and they are more affordable but I think I would still try and get as many hollow points or some kind of defensive rounds as possible first.

[@andycole5957]

FMJ's are what the military uses, so they aren't all bad; however, yeah, I'd rather have full power defensive loads too. Also depends on if you are stockpiling "plinking" ammo, or full power FMJ's.

[@jcdawg8363]

If you don't find a way to join up in some sort of community after a SHTF event, you are doomed no matter how much ammo you have. Trying to go solo in some sort of "fort" or "bunker" is not realistic. You can't be vigilant 24/7 and you can't watch all directions at once. The bad guys will band together and hunt the lone families or individuals and will eventually win regardless of how much ammunition an individual has. Communities that can band together for common defense, food, medical care, etc. will survive the best. 30 people with 100 rounds each is a much more dangerous adversary than one person with 3000 rounds.

[@shawnsmith5071]

Yes yes yes I’ve watched the walking dead. A loner or really small group is doomed if much rather have three mags and twenty people with the same three mags vs me and a buddy with a hundred mags loaded

[@texture6]

Ammo should be treated like grocery shopping. Every week buy a box. One week 9mm, the next week .223 or 5.56 continue, the next week shotgun ammo. etc….

[@trentonfiffia8063]

14 mags of 5.56 1,000 rounds of 9mm 5,000 rounds of .22lr Couple hundred variety 12 gauge

[@Lugghandle]

In the words of prepper Vegita "It must be over 9000!!"