How Much Do They Weigh? 2017 300 XC vs 2017 YZ250X - Episode 212

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Have you ever wanted to know how much these bikes really weigh full of fuel and ready to ride? KTM lists their weights one way, Yamaha lists them another. Since I always set off from the truck with a full tank of fuel, I’m going to be weighing my dirt bikes that way.
Today, I will be putting the 2017 KTM 300 XC, the 2015 KTM 300 XC, and the 2017 Yamaha YZ250X on the scale.
Here is a little preview:
The 2015 300 XC came in a 251.5 lbs, while the 2017 came in at 243.5 lbs. That is a savings of 8 lbs! The 2016 model was the same as the 2015. That means that the new changes with the frame, motor, and forks all added up to 8 lbs of savings. That is pretty amazing if you ask me.
Onto the Yamaha. It came in at 236.5 lbs. The YZ250X is 7 lbs lighter than the KTM 300, but the KTM has 3 lbs more fuel, at least 1 lbs more skid plate, and around 1 lbs in the rear disk gaurd. If you factor those in, the KTM is only about 1-2 lbs heavier even with e-start
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[@SoilworkZA01]

2015 XC - 114kg 2017 XC- 110kg 2017 YZ - 107kg For those of us who are metric :)

[@TeKaMOTO]

Thanks! :)

[@adamdongle2706]

Robert Moore thanks

[@MrAlfredKaplan]

Thanks a lot.

[@RaphaelPais]

thanks!!

[@melvin3064]

Thanks a lot 😉

[@user-ed8zp9fo2r]

You forgot to say,YZ have the heavy handguards..1.5 pounds more than the KTMs..

[@MDM1992]

Also has an all metal frame not the plastic crap the ktm has.. id take heavier metal over plastic any day of the week

[@mitchellledbetter102]

I'm a Yamaha fan so I gotta throw this out there; Don't forget to subtract the weight that typically goes along with owning a Yamaha. The weight can usually be found in between the humans ears and fills the majority of his upper skull.

[@greylyons816]

mitchell Ledbetter keep in mind ktm riders also have empty bellies from spending 3k more on their bikes. Yamaha is much lighter!

[@MR-04]

Yamaha is the best bike of those 3 bikes Give this comment a 👍 if you guys mean the same

[@zane4964]

Lol

[@AdvBrewery]

wow, awesome video. no one else has this type of content. you will be dominating youtube soon.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks Pixel Junkie.

[@isaacmayle6737]

Dirt Bike Channel okay so I'm not the type of person who leaves comments on KZbin videos but I hafta say you are hands down the best dirtbike blogger on KZbin. your videos intrigue me and make me really want to get a dirtbike and go riding even tho I'm part of the atv community, in the last couple of days I've watched about 75% of your videos and everyone was great man! keep up the great work!

[@ArrowTrajectory]

So the 2017 electric-start KTM 300 weighs roughly the same as a bike that has been basically unchanged for over a decade. Good to know.

[@chasehunt6497]

^^^^ this right here

[@xafbxmoto269]

Damn, great point.

[@rjerread]

I will buy the YZ. Yamaha wake up there is a resurgence in 2-strokes

[@enduro-parts-aus]

no wonder ktms keep snapping swing arms and frames with all this weight reduction haha

[@michaelshock6752]

Best all around information hands down! Happy to be back into riding and I haven't even bought a bike yet. I'm not an internet guy or KZbin person....so lucky to come across your videos...wealth of information. Way less intimidated buying a new/used bike. It's been since the late 90s riding. I'm so pumped....can't wait to buy a bike. Much thanks for all you do.

[@jhwrightesq]

With all due respect, you forgot to add/subtract the weight of the radiator guards. Even more close.

[@damonbradshaw5569]

Hey kyle. Love the channel! One thing to remember, the reason the yz is so "heavy" is that back when two strokes ruled the ama ruled they had to weigh a minimum of 212lbs or something like that. Which of course that was without fuel. The real weight of motorcycles vs claimed is always kind of a joke. This was a result of the "works" bike era when a guy from Honda had a 175lb cr500.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

The YZ also feels lighter than these other two when riding.

[@johnrhodes4949]

This is a very good and informative channel! Good work man, the quality of these videos shows the amount of time and effort you put in. I have been looking at yz250 and ktm 300 these vids help alot!

[@grantsparg6533]

You will be interested to know that Yamaha are testing the YZ250x in South Africa(where I am & live) with E-Start. So hopefully we can look forward to that soon.

[@RedLightning]

how did you find this out?

[@chadanderson2486]

Great!! Now the YZ will be heavier. Maybe Yamaha will redesign the seat too. For all you're pussies!!!!

[@glennedwards1308]

Nice comparison, although the Yamaha handguards are probably 2 lbs heavier then the roost deflectors on the KTM

[@DirtBikeChannel]

There is far more hardware on the Kato in this vid than the YZ

[@whiskeythrottledave]

On the KTM website it shows the 2016 KTM 300 XC at 222 pounds. It shows the 2017 at 222 pounds as well. I'm confused?? The '16 has old frame and engine.??

[@jasonlipman4663]

Great information, very helpful. Thank you for taking the time. Keep up the good work!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

You are welcome. Glad some of this is helpful.

[@sneaky98gt]

Love the BCM shirt!

[@thecyclemedic8424]

You're giving a pound difference for the skid plate and disc guard? You are way off. Your talking ounce not pounds turbo. Otherwise very good video.

[@aubreysweattii5700]

what tire do you run and I've thought about running the tubeless how are they and have you had any problems yet? I have 250x with a IMS 3.2 so it would weigh in around 255 with a desert tank. Do you like the air fork or spring better?

[@edwardlacika3022]

The excf line is just as impressive from the weight point of view. My 250 excf is 248 lb fully fueled and street legal. When I weighed the bike at home it was exactly as per the KTM website. The 350 and 500 excfs are few pounds more and all street legal.

[@Maicowerk]

My bikes are bit heavier for sure. BTW, there's a motorcycle show in Portland next weekend the One Motorcycle Show. Its free entry. One of my bikes will be in the show.

[@Senninha1960]

You didn't mention that if you take a shit before a ride you can save up to 3 pounds. 👍

[@Jon-yf6py]

thanks for the information hard to find true weigh-ins keep up the good work

[@bryson_stafford]

Great video. The AER forks save a lot of weight. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2017 XC-W was the same weight as your 2015 with it's lights and spring forks.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Yeah.

[@graid9275]

I weighed my 2017 300 XC-W, full tank of gas, with the same type of scale at 241 lbs. Only mods I've done is P3 pipe guard, Tubliss front and rear and installed a old Cycra impact skid plate.

[@Cactus73]

The XCW is lighter than the XC, even though it has lights and spring forks.

[@perrinayebarra]

Imagine if the yz had been developed over the last 10 years. It would probably weigh at least 5 pounds less.

[@mxfreaks]

Maybe not, the yamaha 4 strokes are heavier than they used to be with the addition of the starter and battery. The more tech added they are gaining weight!!!

[@zardportugal]

Great job (again). Congrats.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thank you.

[@Aint1S]

if you go and see if Husqvarna uploaded their *live* TE300 launch, they show exactly where inside the crankcase that they had shaved the excess weight that wasn't required from the casting process. It's impressive just how much you get from the Husqvarna/KTM bikes. The YZ on the other is a proven platform... heavier and solid for a decade.

[@inevespace]

Do both ktms have a li-ion battery?

[@jonmcdougal9334]

You forgot to add the fact that the ktms had radiator guards at the end

[@RelentlessCo]

I ride often , different bikes . Only time a really notice difference in weight with bikes around the same cc is gas or if I hope from 2 stroke to 4 stroke

[@anexpertateverything4816]

I’ve talked about picking up a used KTM 300. But it seems every KTM for sale has a “rebuilt bottom end with only 5 hours”. The bikes seem to have relatively low hours for bottom end rebuilds. Does anyone know why they seem to need bottom end rebuilds? Love to hear from knowledgeable owners/mechanics and not just guys that feel need to write “buy a 88’ CR250”

[@ryanh5712]

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[@DirtBikeChannel]

That is totally fine. Most people on patreon only donate $1 per month. Just letting you know. I appreciate you just watching.

[@Nuno.Alcaide]

Awesome (really awesome) video reviews!!! :D

[@woodsrider117]

Thanks! good info!

[@masterbeta343]

Do all of those have radiator fluid and engine oil in it?

[@Mark-jz4dz]

Did the 15 have a lithium battery? If it didn't then really you have forks at 3 pounds and battery at 2 to 3. Basically KTM shaved another 2 or so pounds off. Now if the batteries are both lithium that is pretty impressive.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

No, the 15's didn't have the lithium. Some of the 2016s did.

[@Mark-jz4dz]

Dirt Bike Channel The 15 you weighed has a Acid battery? I was wondering if your buddy put in a lithium battery before you weighed them.

[@johnnygreen9414]

Just subscribed. digging through your videos, a lot of great content. keep it up. Cant wait to see whats coming up in the future.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks dude.

[@johnnygreen9414]

Any time. just started a new channel. Not real great. stop by if you ever get a change. and let me know what we can do to get better. brappaholics17

[@EnduroGripBosnien]

Only needs to change on ktm 2017 the mikuni carburetor to keihin, because it runs bad and need much of gas if you compare it. Don’t matter if you put jd jetting, it doesn’t help. Keihin is the best.

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

What is the lift stand you have? NM. Just found your video about the lift. :-)

[@jimcetnar3130]

Idk. you put a stainless exhaust on the yams, like what's on the KTMs, and the Yams is easily 8-10 lbs lighter. Even with equal fuel weight.

[@lenfrandsen7315]

excellent video - best / least rocky Utah riding area or favorite trail ? thanks

[@dclsxfactory7823]

Don’t forget those HEAVY ASS Bullet proof radiator guards on the 17

[@gabrielnilsson4255]

my crf 450r wheigh 108 kg, isnt that light for a 4 sroke?

[@SuperDRAY88]

Would anyone be able to tell me the difference between a 300exc and a 300xc?

[@MyersJ2Original]

Gas weighs a bit more than your 6lb quote btw. But nice to see this. Just wish the Yamaha had rear disc gaurd and EE metal plate.

[@monasheeroofing7100]

awesome video. hey buds can you do a review on 300 xc or xcw with the 250sx CDI and the 300sx cdi

[@MikeBrown-rk7ws]

how much do you weigh and height? Do you have any suspension done to the bikes

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'm 6'0", 170 lbs. All these bikes are stock suspension. I'm not keeping any of these long enough to justify doing mods to the suspension.

[@b1slyfox]

Would love to see this done with the 250xcf and yz250fx

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Both of those bikes are long gone. I'll be weighing all the bikes I get from this point forward though.

[@betobeto7903]

Thinking about a getting a Freeride KTM, mainly because I am on the short side and will getting older. Whats your opinion on that bike or do you think I should man up :-) and get the 350xc?

[@garthlundquist8316]

Beto Beto Take a good look at the Beta Crosstrainer. It is more versatile than the Freeride and also shares the slightly smaller frame size. Every review I have seen has been very positive.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I haven't had any experience with the Freeride or the Beta Crosstrainer. I like the concept, but I would need to ride one before having an opinion on it either way.

[@isaachepworth7066]

Beto Beto Beta Xtrainer. Short seat height and is less of a trials/dirt bike hybrid than the freeride, making it more usable. It has plenty of power and super good suspension that is very resistant to bottoming out. Also, if your still growing the beta would be best because I'm 6' and didn't feel like I was riding any smaller of bike than my YZ

[@otpipe]

Dirt Bike Channel Bring your YZ250X to Texas and we can ride RRMT or Barnwell Mountain and you can test my '16 Beta 300RR. Lol

[@ZSharkPH]

Looks like the Yamaha has a stock exhaust. If so, thats a big advantage the KTM's have also.

[@BladeBarn]

my 150xcw is only 216 full tank with skid plate and hanguards and my 450sxf is only 238.5 full tank with skid plate no handguards

[@dylanmxbmx8526]

So I heard you only increase or decrease the air pressure through the left side? So there must be some connecting tube that connects the forks?

[@dylanmxbmx8526]

Leo O'Neill do they come with instructions on how to adjust the suspension and do you have to buy any special tools? I have no experience with air forks but am thinking of buying a 2017 KTM 250SX

[@KiwiNewellLimited]

Dylan MX BMX I am getting a 17 KTM 250xc-f and if it does I will let you know

[@89MACH1]

Great video Kyle! I have heard that the 17 XC has a smaller fuel tank then the 15. Can you confirm that? At least 1 liter less, from 10.8L to 9.8L? Thanks!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

From what I can see/tell, it's the same size. Different shape, but same overall capacity.

[@bearbradley5221]

I like Kyle's stuff, but he does here, what so many do. If you are going to compare weights - bring the bikes back to absolute standard. So, you get no guessing / excuses for bikes having this, not having that etc, etc. I've no bias to KTM or Yamaha., so I'm Not being a disgruntled fan boy. Things like the Handguards - the Bark Buster style handguards are much, much heavier than plastic 'flag' type guards. But the YZ doesn't have this or that, people are saying. Well, to stop all the excusing this, excusing that, weigh them as standard, without add ons or take offs. Kyle, they are not amazingly similar in what they have, and have not on them. Do this right. You do so much, right.

[@74yammyman]

I agree , standard v standard

[@davedesmon9470]

Weight and horsepower. Why are these the two most hidden and mysterious numbers out there? Yet the ones that people want to know the most. What is the problem?

[@240rac1ng]

Hi Kyle, can you add in future lbs and kilograms when you do something like this? Or it is too much work for you :D

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'll keep that in mind since much of my audience uses kgs :)

[@robertbaker9329]

I love Kyle but I don’t think it’s fair to not count the weight savings in fuel with Yamaha I know it’s holds less but that’s how we ride them ya know we don’t start our day of riding not filling our tanks all the way

[@fidelcastro1475]

so its 8 lbs more than the 250xc?

[@JamsTomatoReviews1]

I like the Yamaha brand more than KTM. I would love a wr250f and a yz250x

[@nutzy99ify]

my YZ 250x is a beast. and can hit the top speeds that a 4 stroke does. 93 mph

[@user-vf3gf4xq3v]

You forgot one thing. The KTM makes your wallet much lighter than the Yamaha so it’s a wash with the rider onboard.

[@SnoopyA1979]

doesn't the 17 Kato save like 3 pounds by having a lithium battery too???

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Not sure how much they saved on the battery, but there certainly was some weight savings there.

[@carmane2894]

Dirt Bike Channel on the husky website it says 1kg (2.2lbs)

[@Game_with_RJ]

Justin Martin This was my same thought watching this. As I understand, the lithium battery is about 2 lbs and the forks are about 3 lbs difference from 16 to 17.

[@carmane2894]

Also on huskies website it says they saved a bit on the new engine cases and lighter bits inside. The shock and linkage is also supposedly lighter as well

[@xafbxmoto269]

What does Kato mean? I'm a yz guy do t know ktm language

[@justinw426]

Great video BTW

[@chadrides914]

Yz 2t’s every day and 3 times on Sunday.

[@KiwiNewellLimited]

I would be interested to know what the actual weight of the 2016 and 2017 KTM 250xc-f bikes are. I know (think) that Sam has a 16 but I understand you guys don't have a 17.

[@KiwiNewellLimited]

But I am getting a 17 soon and I could weigh it like u did

[@dirtbikesam]

I sold the 16 KTM250xcf to make room for a new bike.

[@WillHampson]

my understanding is the 2017 "saved" all that weight by removing the Kickstarter and making it an option and switching to a lithium ion battery. That's your 8 lbs right there. Can you confirm if your 2017 KTM has the kick option or not? I don't know about you but I'm not going way out there without having a Kickstarter available. I've had too many batteries die on me.

[@husqvarnadirt5141]

Will Hampson The 2 strokes still have kickstarters, only removed on the 4 strokes

[@DirtBikeChannel]

The two strokes still have a kickstarter.

[@KiwiNewellLimited]

Will Hampson only the '17 4 strokes had the kickstarter removed

[@oliverpaolozza9894]

Could your pleaseeeee do a review on a Yamaha TT-R 230 even if you dont have the bike but just talk about it.

[@cobrajett11]

Should have mentioned the metal enforced hand guards on the Yamaha, adds weight.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

They both have hand guards with metal on them.

[@dylanmxbmx8526]

How do you like the air forks?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I have really liked them. No complaints here.

[@linusnilsson2734]

What clutch oil and 2 stroke oil do you use?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Amsoil Saber in my gas. Belray gear saver in the trans.

[@linusnilsson2734]

By the way... How many hours do you put into the bike before changing the transmission oil? Im changing every 5 hours now but it feels like i am overdoing it and doing it too often?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'm going like 40 hours on my 2 strokes between gear oil changes. Used to do 20 hours, but the manuals say you can go 20 or 40 hours. One of the benefits of riding a 2 stroke is that long interval between gear oil changes!

[@linusnilsson2734]

Oh holy shit.. Lucky i havent had the bike for too long then

[@travisbaker794]

What does the 350 xcf weigh?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Sold it a few months ago, so I don't know exactly. Will be weighing all the bikes from this point forward.

[@Nuno.Alcaide]

Would be really nice to see a video like this for some Sherco and Gasgas.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

In the very near future, I can do one for a Sherco Bike.

[@Nuno.Alcaide]

that would be awesome, looks like the 300 (2 strokes) is a great bike also!

[@scottgaskill4896]

Not to split hairs Kyle, u sure gas isn't 7 lbs. Per gallon? Not sure, I CLD be wrong?

[@aubreysweattii5700]

do a light bar setup so I know how to run mine when I get it lol

[@andrewhowell6584]

Can you please do a review on full exhausts for the yz250x , you've smashed yours up pretty bad. I'm 14 and from nl Canada and have a 2015 yz 250 and would like to know what kind of exhaust to get

[@carmane2894]

Andrew Howell fmf fatty or PC platinum2 and a fmf shorty or power core 2 or the PC r304

[@dcfilms347]

Andrew Howell I'm 16 and have a 2003 yz 250 with fmf gnarly pipe and fmf. shorty and I love the power.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Unfortunately, I can't keep all these bikes forever. Sold the YZ250X to one of my buddies in order to make room for other test bikes.

[@carmane2894]

Dirt Bike Channel does the next test bike happen to be a beta?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I do plan on getting a Beta this year. Probably in or around April. Videos will trail a few weeks behind after getting it.

[@packinwood2009]

How much weight do you have to lose off a dirt bike before it starts to feel noticeably lighter?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Every bit helps... that is all I know. 2 strokes always feel lighter than the 4 strokes regardless of how much they weigh on the scale.

[@packinwood2009]

I gotta try a 2 stroke sometime. Nice vids.

[@Maicowerk]

Had to delete and re-post since I reversed my math and simplify the explanation. Power / Weight = Ratio. So, 30 HP / 240 Pounds = 0.125, 30 HP / 230 Pounds = 0.13 So X / 240 = 0.13 and X = 0.13 * 240 = 31.3 HP. So you gain 1.3 HP by dropping 10 pounds. Your bike will make lower HP in the lower RPMs so you gain more HP throughout, especially down low.

[@Maicowerk]

I shouldnt say it was wrong last time just I didnt multiply it by 100 since there was 1 more step missing. You got 1 /x and i left it like that in the comment. But this is a much easier explaination.

[@Maicowerk]

and dont forget you have to add your weight with tools and gear.

[@beneagles007]

I was always the type to steer slightly away from what the manufacturers say because when they say a certain car tops out at 160 and you get in it and goes 200. Instantly you know that they have some facts wrong somewhere down the line. I believe what the engineers say vs what comes off the line will always be slightly different. That's why I love this type of stuff (real life proof)

[@jsemichjr]

So you're saying if I get a new 2017 my wife can't tell me to lose weight because I'm lighter on the bike?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I see what you did there.

[@dirtbikesam]

haha best comment of the day!!

[@justinw426]

What is the skid plate for the 2017 XC 300? Looks trick!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

SXS Slideplate

[@larry710]

I just bought the '17 tx300. I didn't see the sxs plate you have. They seem to have one for a '16 xc. is this what you used for you '17? I really want one asap. I emailed ads but no response yet. thanks

[@jakemaddie06]

But.... the yz still has conventional forks instead of the air forks junk. The aluminum rear disc guards on the ktms vs. the plastic one on the yz is probably only a few ounces difference, not a lb. The joy of the yz is that it is free from all those frilly things and is just a stripped down fun machine. The ktm is a very light machine though.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Right, and I'm on record saying that I LOVE the YZ250X. It's slightly more fun than the 300 XC sometimes for me to ride. I'd pick the YZ over any bike I've ridden in the past 5 years.... other than the 2017 300 I have right now.

[@jakemaddie06]

Someday it would be fun if you sent that yzx jug to Eric gorr and tested a 300 kit. I have really come to appreciate your reviews. Thanks!

[@brianpatterson5513]

Doesn't yamaha also not have hydraulic clutch that's atleast 2lbs

[@nutzy99ify]

they did somethign to clutch the yz 250x clutch is STUPID light compared to my 2015 yz 250

[@hockeysnipez2795]

it’s not hydraulic it’s Japasonic

[@fidelcastro1475]

im asking about the 17 300xc

[@pacificnorthwestriding6004]

What happened to the 4 stroke

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I sold them months ago. The only bike I own at the time I"m typing this is the 2017 300 XC. Everything else has been sold to make room for more.

[@bmotomo421]

All of your mathematics are a giant waste of time. The dry weight of each bike is what it is. And the bikes are what they are. If one must have electric start, the Yamaha is definitely not the bike. If one can't afford the premium price of the KTM, the Yamaha is probably the best choice. Obbsessing over ive or six pounds in either direction is kind of silly. Because the riders skill is almost always the most limiting factor. Nice exercise, though.

[@aklaunch]

Bottom line: Air forks are lighter

[@xafbxmoto269]

The Funny thing is that that yz is literally a 2006

[@kochj0713]

So basically the KTM is extremely lightweight for the set up it has

[@fidelcastro1475]

never mind i just looked at the rest of the video😆

[@markmtbrider]

now if you could weigh an xr400r with hand gaurds, ultra duty tubes and a full std gas tank. lol maybe i really dont want to know......

[@jackchegwyn4653]

My 2015 crf 250r is only 98kg

[@ripnriding1]

Should measure husky to 300 2017 ;)

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I don't have access to a husky right now.

[@AndrewsRChelis]

I like orange.

[@kpoirot]

You also didn't account for the radiator guards that the YZ didn't have which would make up the extra 2 pounds between the 17 300 and 17 YZ. So they're actually dead on weight wise. Great video. I. Ant wait to ride my 17 300!

[@vincentc2160]

i did the same test today on my brand new ktm 300xc 2017, and on my old cr250r 2003, the ktm with tank filled up at 3/4 is 233pounds, and my cr is at 235 pounds (with handguards and side stand added), the cr was 1/2 full of gas photos.app.goo.gl/RtNXxJCIbjawKDeF3

[@jerekaaria1620]

Next time please show metric numbers too :)

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'll keep that in mind.

[@KiwiNewellLimited]

jjeppe69 someone else did in near the top of the comments

[@patrickz8491]

You forgot that the yamaha doesn't have radiator guards... so i guess it is basically heavier...

[@Jake-tt6mk]

he did mention that...

[@patrickz8491]

he did mention it but it was not in the calculation at the end :)... i like the video a lot... all of the videos acctually, it was not to be critical just something i noticed :)

[@Jake-tt6mk]

Sorry Patrick! I`ve got a wicked tooth ache (just had a root canal), and I stand corrected your absolutely correct ...he didn`t. Later man, and enjoy the trails!

[@midamultitool1387]

I can't choose between 300xc or 300xcw.... I ride trails most of the time. ( I ride hard tho)

[@johnnygreen9414]

I need that same question answered myself.

[@midamultitool1387]

Joey Fnuts Thanks man that did help! XC it is! now I just need 9 more grand! 🤑🤑

[@KyleMx4]

Mida Multitool xc. Xc has linkage

[@midamultitool1387]

Joey Fnuts yea I'm gonna go with the 2017 deff :) thanks for your help!

[@carmane2894]

Mida Multitool the husky te300 has the xplor forks and linkage in the rear. And it looks way better than the KTMs

[@waynekerr4141]

bang, 1st

[@JohnDoe-jb7cr]

Lol the Yamaha weights 7lbs less

[@JohnDoe-jb7cr]

Lol all these ktm people making excuses for their bike being heavier than an 11yr old Yamaha design

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I don't get it. The Yamaha is heavier and doesn't have e start :)