How much does a CHAOS SPACE MARINE army ACTUALLY cost now? | Warhammer 40k

Heretics assemble! The time is here!
Its a heretical army break down! Its time for the Black Legion Chaos Space Marines. Kieran has been busy shouting into the warp to see what they would take as an acceptable Chaos Undivided army list
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ALL PRICES ARE RRP FROM GAMES WORKSHOP
ALL POINTS ACCURATE AS OF MUNITORUM FIELD MANUAL 1.9
Stick around till the end for a full cost breakdown of each unit and currency!
Let us know in the comments what you think of the army, any changes you would make and if its more/less money than you expected and how you feel it compares to other Warhammer 40k armies!
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[@maxboot2115]

I'm starting to see why some people joke that the whole of 40k (and ESPECIALLY 30k/Horus Heresy) is just 'Daddy issues the Wargame'. Loyalist legions have "Big Daddy E." These guys have "Big Daddy Abaddon" ...how many "Big Daddies" are there, Kierans??

[@corytem1994]

The Leagues of Votann seem to be afraid of disappointing their ancestors, so “Big Daddy Votann” is accurate

[@the_kieran_show]

In Warhammer everyone's a big daddy and a sad boi consecutively

[@balemoran3168]

@@corytem1994 Votann are reproductions of their ancestors so they are their own daddy issues

[@MrTom12345]

It's Big Daddies all the way down

[@thebeaconsarelit3391]

big daddy puretide, ah yes

[@romeo.3472]

How many chaos armies is too many? Already have Death Guard and Thousand Sons, was saving myself for some Emporers Children when they come along, but Black Legion is just so cool looking. 😢

[@the_kieran_show]

There is no such thing as too many....

[@erih2934]

I wouldn't say too many, but too few... after Black Legion that list demands World Eaters just for the sake of completion.

[@KamenRiderGreed]

This was a nice video! I'm what youd call "CSM-Curious", but with Age of Sigmar 4th edition on the way I will *NOT* be pulling the trigger on this army any time soon. But its good to know, even if I'm not interested in Black Legion. Now, even though I am excited to see where this 4-part Chaos epic leads, I'll admit, I still want to see a video like this AoS armies as well. Perhaps for Stormcast and Skaven? But Id understand if you'd rather wait on their post launch box wave of models to come out, there will probably be a whole lot of refreshes for older kits on both sides.(also, side note, we got sneak-peeks that secind wave yesterday if you weren't aware. And the models they showed look sick af, I'm just sayin') Finally, if you'll permit me. . . Another ramble in addition to the ones I already went on above, I'd have to push back against the idea that "You can't have any form of Chaos list without Abadon". Not only for the obvious reasons like Abadon only being usable in regular 40K, not any of the side games with Chaos Factions, the or AoS, or even in main 40K there's the mono-God legions and Chaos Daemons. As far as I know you cant ally him into any of those, even if you want to. But even if we're just talking CSM only, no other Chaos factions in 40K, I don't want him in my lists. If I get a CSM army I'd want to play Iron Warriors, not Black Legion. So regardless of mechanical or lore relevance, I would say that you absolutely *CAN* have Chaos lists without Abadon in them.

[@the_kieran_show]

Yeah you really don't need Abaddon at all tbh, the chaos book is more than versatile enough. Also I'm sure we'll be doing the army costings for AoS too!

[@christopherjolly8172]

The main thing i find confusing about the Legionaries is that Gdubs doesnt just release "flavoured" boxes. Like in 8th edition when you could buy Blood Angels or Dark Angels specific intercessor boxes. Few quid more and you get the chapter upgrade sprue in the box. Hopefully with the new Night Lords sprue in the kill team box we might start seeing other Chaos forces represented in upgrade sprues

[@the_kieran_show]

Yeah totally agree. Tbh I really liked the 9th ed CP boxes because of the upgrade sprues in them. I still think we're a way off Chaos Legions outside of the main four.

[@christopherjolly8172]

@the_kieran_show yeah, would be nice to see some red corsairs focus. They are featured in a lot of the more recent books with guilliman, seems a waste to not use that hype.

[@gidthaillest]

Gonna be here for every video but when is the next challenge. I love watching you guys torture yourselves lol

[@the_kieran_show]

Not long to wait. Think we've got at least two in July!

[@RaptorianxdReviews]

Ive got almost 4k points of Alpha Legion, and the first model I got that wasnt in a combo box was the Disco Lord, hes just so cool Also you two pushed me over the edge for getting Skaventide, stoked for the rats!

[@the_kieran_show]

Yesssss the AoS hype is real! The 24 HR challenge is in bound for sure

[@DaXiS1987]

What's your favourite chaos kit to paint / build? Loved the episode chaps, as you Brits say. Toodle tip tish tosh tally ho

[@the_kieran_show]

Piddly poddly taddly waddly! Left K I'd say Disco Lord, I'd imagine right K would say a Chaos Knight! He loves his Rampager 😂

[@SwtKaroline]

Must resist the urge and wait until the Emperor's Children release.... Or should I?? Also grats on the wedding!!

[@the_kieran_show]

Noooo don't wait, jump on in! Thank you!

[@clackee]

Where's the Sisters t-shirt on the gent on the right from? Asking for a friend👀

[@the_kieran_show]

Yavin Prints!

[@truthbomb1809]

520 pounds is $983.01 aud, way cheaper to ship from the UK! (NZ gets screwed even harder than we do here in Australia!)

[@the_kieran_show]

Second time we've heard about NZ! The taxation is just absolutely wild 😭

[@calebwhyte6957]

Pls do NZ prices if you really wanna complain about pricing 😭😂

[@the_kieran_show]

THERES WORSE THAN AUSTRALIA?!

[@calebwhyte6957]

@@the_kieran_show intercessors are $124.50 here while $105 in Australia and our currency it’s only within 5c of each other to the dollar normally

[@dinkosaurusrex7746]

😂​@@the_kieran_show

[@bayushiteishiru6291]

It costs your soul!

[@the_kieran_show]

Forever and always 😂

[@egnaroelprup]

Spartan as a land raider for sure, its also easier to find in stock ha Personally I'm less of a fan of the big abaddon terminator blob in favour of way more cheaper dudes, but yeah you can't really have black legion without him, I definitely think the chosen plan is better because you can slam a few more bodies in there. As a corsairs guy myself before the codex I've been messing around with the idea of heavy bolter havocs, sounds weird but it's a unit of 4 assault heavy bolters (and a plasma) so it's 12 shots with sustained and lethal (on pact), s5 ap-2 (at objective units) d2. Not tested yet because I have to build and paint the things but it sounds like a fun time.

[@the_kieran_show]

Sounds like you've got it sussed tbh! Truthfully we're rule of cool above all else, if you love something run with it.

[@LillyLimRo]

Very curious to see what your warhammer stock pile and pile of shame is like

[@the_kieran_show]

10k and we'll show ya

[@gidthaillest]

It’s the same way with the kroot kill team and the carnivores. Except the kill team gives you two hounds

[@the_kieran_show]

Ah very true!

[@istvanmitca5691]

Still waiting for how much admech costs

[@the_kieran_show]

We've done that! Head back through the list of videos you'll find it 😁

[@alextruecustodian6174]

Sanity with the trim

[@the_kieran_show]

Absolutely