How much $$$ Does a PILOT Make in 2024?

So how much money does an airline pilot make in 2024???
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[@Hedgeflexlfz]

Cries in being a pilot below 1500 hours :(

[@user-hg8pv1em5t]

How much?

[@dekzYT]

cries in simmer, dreams are dreams

[@aihsonavais769]

Cries in just denied first class medical cause 20/25 not 20/20

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

Get a SODA @@aihsonavais769

[@videogameplayer0552]

@@aihsonavais769Get a waiver or statement of demonstrated ability. The FAA can and does make exceptions for people who may have a disqualifying issue. Don’t give up on your dreams.

[@OlesonMD]

An airline pilot after 12 years years can easily make $400,000 - $500,00- / year.

[@Andromedon777]

Especially if you're a check airman

[@jimprior5700]

DID YOU INCLUDE THE TIME IT TOOK TO GET THE FLT HOURS BEFORE YOU GOT YOUR MAJOR JOB?

[@Andromedon777]

@@jimprior5700 no... because he said an airline pilot, hence already built his hours. Learn to read.... It only takes 2-3 years to get to 1500 hours if you're smart.

[@hamadalmaisari7046]

@@Andromedon777 dude can you help me out, im an aspiring pilot and I'd like some guidance

[@Andromedon777]

@@hamadalmaisari7046 sure! Do you have a discord?

[@SidestickPilot]

Just a heads up the rates for new hires at the legacies has increased slightly with the latest contract cycle. New hires at my legacy are starting off at 116/hr. Great video.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks for the info!

[@kigen818]

Would you care to say what legacy you’re referring to? Pretty useless comment without that detail…

[@ZachHuff1983]

@@kigen818All 3 legacy airlines have basically the same hourly pay scale now.

[@brandons72vette]

@@kigen818All 3 pay the same first year, and have similar pay scales.

[@mbekka1]

@@kigen818it’s called “ none of your business and go do your research, and your comment is rude. It’s called “ pilot central site lol.

[@AFO3310]

Started as a 135 FO at the end of last year at around 800 TT. I was a flight instructor for a year before that. Making around 3k a month. Gotta start somewhere. Building valuable multi turbine time in order to get that 6 figure salary hopefully next year.

[@drummerboy6788]

I fly hawker a 800xp now and I love it. Quality of life is amazing

[@slimsgarage675]

Learn to fly in the military. I started off in the military and my flight training was paid for by the military. I was able to completely skip the regional airlines and get hired at a legacy airline with 1800 hours.

[@DaniRow-wi2pk]

How long did you stay in the military?

[@DaniRow-wi2pk]

tHERE IS A 10 YEAR COMITMENT

[@burncycle4621]

Military paid for mine as well. In my experience, military pilots tend to be worse than those that cut their teeth at 135 or regionals. Not all, but there is a trend. Of course nobody will dare say so because military is hailed as God’s gift to aviation.

[@thetruckingsurfer8774]

​@@burncycle4621 Don't get me wrong. I'm from a military family. But, when I heard the explained description of "Military Grade". It is not what you think. Most people think 'oh, military grade!" Must be good. No. It's the bare minimum in order to pass for the military to pay for it. You're welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. It's all about wording and perception. Like sell by dates is not the same as expiration date. And even then, that is for the store, not for the consumer. Thanks for your service. 🫡

[@robstanton9215]

Always love your videos!!! I appreciate how you show the many sides, up and down, that make up the wonderful world of aviation! 🤠👍

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thank you very much!

[@toyotarid]

The silence during the ground marshal dance and the bouncing purple jet had me absolutely rolling…😂

[@ImaadG]

Your videos are awsome keep up the great content! Also I love the online training program you have its really beneficial! Highly recommended 10/10!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thank you! Will do!

[@cocobeanthebean]

This video was very helpful thank you so much!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

You're so welcome!

[@coreyjordan2745]

nice! thank you. Very informative and educational.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Glad it was helpful!

[@SkyRizzy33]

Thanks for the Content

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

My pleasure!

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Thank you for sharing.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

My pleasure!

[@mattmartucci_]

Me with my 75 hours and no money 😢

[@scottmcdonaldAAL211]

This is a fantastic video, lots of humor along with the factual information. I would say this may be the best YT video I've seen! And that's saying something! Especially loved the supreme editing job splicing in clips from various motion pictures. "Don't call me Shirley!" Loved those clips! They need your talent at SNL!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Glad you enjoyed it! haha

[@silentkaisei]

I'm just glad becoming a pilot wont be a waste I really enjoy flying but I also want to be able to provide money for myself and help my family

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

It's a solid career path, even since we made that video salaries have continued to increase!

[@davidross1332]

I started a trucking company that makes just shy of 7 figures. Now it's time to get into flying commercial! 25yrs old

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Make sure to check out our online ground school! learn.fly8ma.com/courses/premium-private-pilot-ground-school/

[@ryancole1597]

Can you do a part 91 and 135 video

[@unclemark134]

I'm just a lowly ultralight pilot but hope to become a sport pilot someday soon. Hate the wife and I missed getting to stop by and see you while we were in Alaska this past September. Definitely will on the next trip!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

we shall be here! our field is coming alone nicely

[@JamesEarlRayMLK]

Who says shit like I hate my wife on a public forum. I’m sure you’re a real cool guy.

[@burncycle4621]

While Skywest is a contractor, PSA is owned and operated by American Airlines, as is Piedmont and Envoy. AA wholly owned regionals have a top of pay above 200, and as a check airman you can make more than that 30 year wide-body captain at mainline.

[@coreyjordan2745]

Currently, in a part 141 school. It's going well. Haven't started the flight portion yet. It's a combination program. I will obtain a A.A.S degree in Aviation management degree plus license (PPL). My goal is to get my license and become a CFL and get all my rating. And my ultimate goal is to become commercial airline pilot for the regionals first officer. I'm good after that!

[@Gucci_Peralta]

Wow me too we doing the same thing! Good luck I believe in you!!!

[@Andromedon777]

If you get siked out and not getting the hours, hop to ATP. It's likely cheaper and way quicker

[@me734]

Reminds me of the shortcomings in the trucking industry. No wonder both are weighted down with responsible operator shortages. Aim for the CEO of the op instead

[@robertmonaghan5420]

Yep

[@montaignedarbyakwallstreet7602]

best video ever

[@raderjohnson3890]

“ Jim is your average college drop out…” 😂hahahaha.

[@AkPacerPilot]

lol funny clips in this one…. Hehe even noticed the punkin pacer towards the end… hehe

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

haha you like that andy? that was a great day indeed

[@AkPacerPilot]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 yes it was!

[@monocogenit1]

time line seems a bit optimistic. cool video.

[@shelbymcdaniel6868]

Whoever put in the video edits is awesome 😂

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

?

[@keewhite5796]

He’s saying great Video edits 👍🏾

[@jasonjohnston94]

Almost 52 years of age and watching time slip away. I decided last March that I wanted to pursue my childhood dream, had an AME visit May 1 and got a deferral. Two FAA letters and two batches of additional information submitted so far, the last on Nov. 3, and still no decision.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Keep pushing....you have to bug the crap out of the FAA if you want to get it through. I've seen plenty of guys stay on them and get it eventually, also plenty who "let it process" and nothing ever happens

[@aihsonavais769]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199you got an tips? I just got denied cause of a non progressing eye condition (retinal detachment) and 20/25 vision corrected

[@aihsonavais769]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199I’ve been wondering how to get a soda but there’s no resources on it that I’m finding online

[@IKI11I]

I’m 29 deciding to make a career change. Paying as I go at a part 61 school. Working full time still. Hope to be at a major airline full time by the time I’m 35

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Head to FLY8MA free courses and then continue through our courses

[@r.k.williams2887]

Great information! How is Stef doing? R.W.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

things are going great here and everyone is fantastic!

[@erginaydin9607]

Flying must be a lot easier but the pilots appreciate good mechanics a lot. They are our best friends. I watch your videos from Alaska. Pilots are also mechanics there. Impressive. The owner didn't enjoy flying for the commuters! But that is the way to go if you like to make a good living in a major airline. I just retired from United. I would prefer flying local in Alaska too, especially if I were from there. You just have to take a long winter break. Love your shows. Thanks The life you are living in Alaska is the best. The airlines are great once you are in majors and can manage to fly less and day time only. It's the easiest job except the hotels and shuttle riders. God forbid you have to fly in out of EWR!!!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thank you good sir for your feedback

[@erginaydin9607]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 I would make the same choice as you have done but most pilots are looking for money. Some would do anything for an extra dollar. Thanks.

[@Rio_Seco]

Hiring at regionals has slowed to a crawl. Mesa has not hired anyone since November and they are just now going to training. Because of the slow hiring at regionals there are now a lot of CFIs so in many places new CFIs are hardly flying working, and hardly building hours.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Interesting. There will eventually be another wave of hiring. Just be patient.

[@Rubin_Lopez]

Need that LaGuardia location 😂

[@germb747]

9:11 On the "jumpseat" hahahahah! LOL!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

ha glad you also found that funny.

[@youngmoneymike3951]

Do the regionals look for college degrees if even required? And as well as for a captains position would it require one?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

College degrees are not required to work for the airlines but it will strengthen your resume if it comes down to two applicants with similar experience.

[@jeff90210]

Here in Canada, our flag carrier Air Canada pays first year FO's an equivalent of $43k USD 😂😂😂

[@ajhantiwilson7707]

Wait thats how much I get driving for amazon 😭

[@josephwashington5326]

Randon question: Whats the tallest pilot youve seen? Im 6'5".

[@Braulissimo351]

As a student Pilot, although the earnings may be there (after x amount of years), I’m still not fully convinced it’s for me because of QOL/pay trade offs. It seems like if you want better QOL you take a lower salary or sacrifice that for lower QOL but with higher pay. I’m looking for a career that has good QOL AND pay…

[@Drazzed]

Don’t we all?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

You can have good QOL and good pay, but you're gonna have to have some SERIOUS skills at doing something that makes your employer A LOT of money.

[@geddon436]

Computer science, engineering, Math or physics degrees............hardest degrees pay the highest

[@aviatortrucker6285]

So when does the rating of ATP have to play in all of this? Sounds like if you have 1509 and have a commercial certificate you can go to the regionals. I think you need an ATP first, no?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

You do need the ATP, but if you have hour requirements as you mentioned they will hire you and your ATP training and checkride will be done as part of your sim training at the airline

[@NoStepOnSnake1776]

Cries in pre cfi

[@ozelot250]

What if your goal is to stay local and make a career of the regional? Is that realistic?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

It is depending on the regional...you just want to make sure you are tying yourself to a company that is going to survive the next 30 years, preferably one that has been around for 20 or 30 years as well.

[@aymen-pc3fh]

Got about over 20 hours logged In, hopefully they just increase the pay rate once I get to 1500

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Fly because you love it, not for the money.

[@yellowboot6629]

❣️🤗 Thanks

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

You’re welcome 😊

[@juulkingcat7619]

I have question, so if I were to get hired at one of this big companies like delta, aa, united how much control of my schedule would I have? For example, if I wanted to work longer hours to get more pay and experience obviously would they let me?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

As a new first officer you wouldn't have much control over your schedule. But if their were additional flights for you to pick up, that is a possibility, as long as you don't go over your max allowed hours per month.

[@MannyPagantravel]

Hopefully you can set up an interview with Jim 😂

[@user-mj1ux2nt5x]

I am an international student going through the training. Would I be able to work in USA after my training is done?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

If you get a work permit and convert your license to FAA then yes

[@BIGALEX_DRDOOM]

I wonder how can i use gi bill for it. Thinking between Mechanical engineering and being a pilot. 🤷🏾

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

You cant use the GI Bill for your private pilot license but once you have your PPL you can use it for your follow on training at a part 141 school. fly8ma.com/a-veterans-guide-to-soaring-as-a-pilot/

[@flyinandjammin]

Um, Raleigh is pronounced "Rawlee", not "Rawlay", and Greesnboro, where I live, is in NORTH Carolina, not South Carolina.

[@BenEngelde]

man that 747 at 8:14 looks scary :D

[@madduxxx2636]

What about airlines like Southwest that don't have a regional airline?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

www.flyaeroguard.com/learn/how-to-become-a-pilot/how-to-become-a-southwest-airlines-pilot-aeroguard-flight-training-center/

[@rosemary_90]

can i manually apply to the big airlines after staying in the regional airlines for 5 years?😅😅

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

I don't see why not if there is openings in the majors.

[@sakthivelrajan6433]

Hey great video, I just had one doubt. As a foreign national what are the requirements usually needed to land a job in the majors? For example if I log in 2000 hours as an airline pilot in India, would I have a chance in the US major? Also I don’t have a 4 year degree

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

You would need to convert your licenses to FAA, as well as get work authorization or citizenship in the US, if you had those two things it is possible to get hired at the US majors

[@sakthivelrajan6433]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 thank you for your response. If you don’t mind, I was also wondering what do the major airlines prefer in a candidate while hiring… experience as a captain in a narrow body or as an FO in a wide body

[@jonesyisdabest]

Where in the US can you go from 0-CFI in 18 months for $50k?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Depends where you are but i would start locally first and do some research. You can always try and get a desk job at a flight school to help with costs. 50k for a CFI is pretty common

[@timPA44]

Some good info but also misinformation. The pay scales shown are wrong AA has a new contract. Also major airline FOs don’t make twice as much when they upgrade. FO scales now are 70% of captain pay after 5-6 years of longevity.

[@user-bj7lp1pg6s]

I admire pilots. You need to have a lot of brains to be one.

[@aerialbugsmasher]

Really hate how a lot of youtubers are glorifying the pilot pay and lifestyle. As a former 121 check airman, over the more recent years I saw a huge influx of people that were clearly in it for the wrong reasons, mainly for the money, and by and large, they were some of my worse students. Minimum effort, little to no actual interest in actually learning the ins-and-outs of the job and absolutely zero passion for aviation. Sure, almost anyone can become a pilot, but in 20 years of doing this, I've come to the conclusion very few actually should. And I'm a younger Xennial before ya'll start going oK BoOmEr on me.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

I do believe you have some valid points but the points are so specific they don't relate to the newer generation of pilots coming in and taking over. Your generation comparable to the kids growing up now, grew up with a insane about of change with the available technology and no one can help or change that. Yes, there are kids who cant do anything for them selves and cant deal with anything because how "easy" it can be. But there is still a large percentage of kiddos who are strong and heavy individual thinkers who want to prove to them selves and the older generation they can indeed be great pilots. This video way just laying how some of the key factors leading into the new year if anyone is interested in a career in aviation.

[@achmedbincouscous2846]

I have to agree with you. I'm starting my 28th year of 121 flying. My airline is currently voting on a new T/A. Assuming it passes, at the end of the contract term, my hourly rate will be over $420/hr. But when I was a turboprop FO making Burger King money, it never crossed my mind that "a few more years and I'll be making tons of money" I wasn't there for the money. I was there because I thought it was the coolest job in the world. I still do, and when I talk to young people considering getting into the industry, I never specifically talk about money as a reason to consider it. That being said, I have to give credit to FLY8MA for at least mentioning that, and also for dispelling the notion that the youngsters are going to be flying 787's to Europe after 1500 hours of C172 time. I think a lot of kids are falling victim to the marketing campaigns of the big puppy mill pilot academies and have gotten a distorted image of the reality of what hiring is usually like at the Big4/Big2. This has been the perfect storm of conditions to create a once in a lifetime pilot shortage, but those conditions are transitory, and are already showing signs of slowing. Delta just revised its 2024 hiring estimate down by nearly half. FedEx is asking its pilots to go to the regionals. And the regionals really only want newhires who can meet 121.436 asap. If a young person is only getting into flying because they think they're 2 years away from a $1/4million income, they're probably going to be disappointed. This video comes a lot closer to discussing that reality than most others of its kind.

[@mdalauddinalal5188]

Sir what is the cost in Australia for international student for pilot training commercial?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

I am not familiar with the cost of flight training in Australia.

[@Degenpilot]

Hello, I have a DUI that is over 10 years old now I’m 33 years old. Is it worth pursuing a career as an airline pilot when I even have a chance thanks.

[@mcospottinghd7157]

No way. DUI is an automatic disqualification. If you aren't responsible enough to make good decsisions on the ground, what makes you think anyone would want you flying 100+ people in the air?

[@kyradray4938]

Yes you can. That being said it won’t be easy and you WILL have to explain every step of the way. Don’t listen to nay sayers. I know several people who have had a DUI in background that are flying now at major airlines. As long as you don’t have trouble getting into Canada you should be fine. Read the book final approach. I wish you goodluck.

[@Degenpilot]

@@kyradray4938that’s inspiring wow seriously you know pilots at the majors that had a dui anyway I can get in contact? Probably not but I appreciate the confidence boost man

[@johndoe-el5ic]

Tell HR it supports diversity to hire some pilots with a DUI

[@Prodr1guez]

I'm a manager, I drive 1hr to work, I have maybe 4-6 days off during the month and get paid a fraction of what these pilots are getting paid. I can't understand why there's a concern about not getting 14 days off in a month...

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Seems like you potentially get to sleep in your own bed overnight, we were referring to those who are in hotels 25 days out of the month but yes in your situation we agree.

[@UnbeatenPath1]

Your numbers are off. AA starts at 116/hr year one. And if you upgrade its over 300/hr these days. Also wearing your old uniform in the videos is tacky

[@mazenelsoukkary5706]

what if I opt for a 4 year university degree? will that allow me to skip the regionals and go straight to the big leagues?

[@Scottyboy88]

Nope

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Nope still have to climb the ranks

[@lilduck7349]

If i enjoy flying should i become a pilot good pay?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Pay is good but being a pilot is no joke. Takes some sharp minds to operate any kind of craft. We are in the business because we love it and everyone at FL8MA is eager to learn, fly, and practice safe operations. The money comes with it.

[@julioverne2001]

Hello,great video, I am 47 years old,do you think is too late for me to choose to be an airline Pilot?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

No not at all. Best place to start would be a discovery flight to see if you enjoy flying before going down this path. Once you've decided if flying is for you checkout our PPL ground school to get started. learn.fly8ma.com/courses/premium-private-pilot-ground-school/

[@julioverne2001]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 thanks for your feedback,should I do de medical examination before starting anything, if you don’t mind,can you please tell me what is the exact name of that medical exam please?

[@Serbianpilot_]

Ehhh thats kinda BS because I know someone at Delta right at 1500 and they did his ATP as well. I have 2,200 and fly a 767 doing cargo, never even went to a regional. I know someone going from a Caravan to a 747 lmao… it’s crazy times. But yes hiring is slowing down, at least at the regionals.

[@patrickr8400]

$40 or $50 grand as a CFI? Here in Florida its about 30....

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

state by state

[@Humayunmiah19]

Is a bachelors required in this whole process?

[@jeffreyrider7493]

Nope

[@stevenflattum156]

Your pay chart is way old. 12th year 787 FO is now $305.5

[@benarseneau8306]

What airline?

[@user-ql9xu2sw3t]

Cries not hired by the airlines above 1500

[@thatguy8005]

Like saying, how much does a lawyer make in 2024….

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

every career there are people who are in it just for a good pay check, others are in it because they love it and the money just comes with the job. With that in mind, everyone has their own way to approach their job and quality of life.

[@lukekirk7487]

Buddy 40-50 grand for CFI? Try like 25-30

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

We start CFIs at a minimum of $50k/yr here. Cap out at $100k with additional ratings and experience.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Well we start our CFI's out at 50k/yr

[@lukekirk7487]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 daaaaang man, got it better down south huh?😂 are you based in Florida or California?

[@mianatwood]

Aren’t regionals not hiring anymore because they don’t have enough captains?

[@Kingbook1]

Yes

[@CBSeDeSTA]

I don’t want to flight with Jim because it was all about money an he wanted to be doctor . Honest opinion.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Just an example

[@EatPezzzz]

3:45 "and Knoxville..." shows a picture of Nashville. 3:51 "and Greensboro, SC." there is no Greensboro, SC. There's a Greensboro, NC and a Greenville, SC, but no Greensboro, SC.

[@ujd2930]

I heard the pilot shortage is coming to an end ? ...any truth to it ?

[@Adamdya]

Pilot shortage is projected until 2027

[@ujd2930]

@@Adamdya thanks for your reply!

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

It's coming to an end

[@Adamdya]

@@Hedgeflexlfz where did you get that information from

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

Regionals and majors are decreasing hiring, certain airlines are not even hiring anymore@@Adamdya

[@bigmungus4864]

Rule #1 if your in it for the money don’t do it

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Like most avenues but some cant help them selves

[@henrywight4057]

I'm a private instrument rating but I'm too old.

[@rjobrien7805]

How old are you?

[@henrywight4057]

@@rjobrien7805 64

[@kinouillek]

Meanwhile in Canada….Pilots in their first 4 years with thousands of hours at legacy carriers need two jobs to survive.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks for sharing. that's super unfortunate news

[@alk672]

Quality of life and constant cycles of layoffs aside, there is one important reason airline career is not for some people. With unions come Soviet-style pay scales. Notice how everything is based off of formal numbers you have zero control over - like flight hours or seniority. Unlike in other careers there is pretty much nothing you can do to speed up your career progression. You’re just a number of total flight hours that changes with time, and you're the seniority number that never changes. There is no project you can complete, no idea you can come up with that will make your compensation higher short of taking more days and driving your quality of life into the crapper. You could be by far the best pilot in the history of flight, and it won’t matter one single bit. If you’re a highly motivated and driven individual - don’t voluntarily put yourself into a Soviet work culture, you won’t enjoy it.

[@rjobrien7805]

The unions are total commies and they are the ones that lobbied congress for the 1500 hour rule.

[@chaddombeck]

Ok, boomer.

[@alk672]

@@chaddombecka proud millennial here :)

[@michaelearlgrey]

​@@chaddombeck Dude. Shut up.

[@davidnelson4707]

i do not agree, i spent nearly 40 years in the major airline ,loved every minute .

[@saxmanb777]

The pay scales you are using for American are out of date. The pay is much higher now. 😮

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

That's good to hear that pilots are now making more at the airlines.

[@mts982]

Why no longer a pilot?

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

I am still a pilot, I just decided that I enjoyed instructing more than flying for the airlines.

[@LACSACR]

European pilot salaries are pathetic compared to the US. Volotea, Vueling, Air Europa pay like 1200 euros per month! While in a US Regional you could be paid $4000 per month or more. It´s pathetic! It´s an insult. Meanwhile, a cashier at a Swiss McDonald´s makes 3300 CHF, per month. If this is not twisted enough, you can find tickets in Europe to reach 500 euros in a 2-3 hours flight. In comparison you can fly Southwest for $200-$300 with two bags and snacks, while pilots make $8000 per month. Plus 50k sign in bonus that really helps you move wherever you wanna live. European airlines are a shame and they ask you to have UPRT, MCC and sometimes pay your own type rating and uniform to join them. It really makes you cry. Perverts? Psychopaths?

[@wasabiginger6993]

A boomer closet fly girl all too late for me … back when the best ages, airlines were taking women.

[@jasonbourne7928]

Europa pay is ass

[@bbat2159]

Loose the beard….

[@u171098atgmail]

maybe think of it this way, a captain at a major makes a $1 an hour per passenger. do you think an uber driver would take $1 an hour or drive a passenger 500 miles for a dollar? probably not, but that's just a guess so I'm thinking air carriers are getting a raging good deal on this arrangement.. what do you think? not even close to the standard of living a captain in the 60's enjoyed.. that privilege is solely the purview of our corporate class not of working americans. so the moral of the story is.. (fill in the blank) I don't have any morals? sounds like something Yogi B. would say..

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

When real estate was cheap, it was your right to acquire a house on the beach with boat ramp. 🧲🤪💡