I remember reading several years ago that just a easy low side crash cost about 25k. Just knocking off one sensor on the bike resulted in a new wiring harness and sensors, not to mention levers and fairings. I can see the price has gone up.Wow. Love these videos.
@paulbaldock63132 жыл бұрын
Eventually there would have to be a cost cap for every team? Especially when you are losing factory teams like Suzuki. Very surprised not to hear Dorna not offering to help Suzuki, but then I guess you would have to help all the teams. Remember the days when you could purchase a RG500 or TZ750 and go racing, even a 500 Honda triple. Sign of the times I guess.
@paulwhite74752 жыл бұрын
If they de teched the bike the costs would seriously drop . But dorna are over a barrel because if they slowed the bikes to drop costs they wouldnt be much faster than superbikes .
@paulbaldock63132 жыл бұрын
How many spectators at the circuit or on the TV could tell if a Moto GP bike was going 195mph or 205mph? Everybody wants to see close racing with overtaking and now and then the underdog getting a sniff of the top 5. Unless you can make MotoGP affordable for more teams to enter a team then eventually Moto GP will consist of 3 or 4 teams and 8 bikes on the grid. Look how many riders were doing the GPS in the late 70’s and 80,s. Classes have to be affordable, look at our moto3 team, in its first year and producing some great talent.
@paulwhite74752 жыл бұрын
@@paulbaldock6313 couldn't agree more
@DustyVisorMotorcycles2 жыл бұрын
Dunno about that, Motogp is the pinnacle of 2 wheeled technology, always pushing. If you want cheaper racing then there is WSBK
@paulbaldock63132 жыл бұрын
Fair comment, but how many bikes make a race? Yes it’s the best riders on the best machines, but if you only had say 4 factory bikes always at the front every weekend eventually people get fed up with that ie F1!!!!! ultimately people want to see a race with battles all the way down the field. As for cutting down all the travelling to so many rounds and saving the planet etc etc........leave that for another day. Just my opinion, maybe I’m wrong.
@Bornie2052 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that Taylor, really insightful. When I first started club racing on an F400, without including my wee motorhome and forecasting for one set of tyres a round, I paid out £11k for that first year and then the cost actually started coming down about 10% each year after that.
@guttsu2 жыл бұрын
Christ, that rough average would barely pay for a year of Verstappen's salary! Just to show the discrepancy in cost between 2 and 4 wheel prototype racing. Great video, appreciate the breakdown!
@franklinwilkerson20612 жыл бұрын
Also I just remembered that I got to see your dad race to a top 10 finish at Laguna Seca back in 1993. Good times.
@gymnutrition77942 жыл бұрын
About the same as trackdays then 🤣
@franklinwilkerson20612 жыл бұрын
Dude! Tell those satellite teams that I'll be their rider for $100 a day all in!! (competitive lap times not guaranteed).
@adarshkeswani23192 жыл бұрын
Why would you ride if you can't put in competitive lap times?
@Nishantbhardwaj972 жыл бұрын
@@adarshkeswani2319 for 100$
@shirleyboy88592 жыл бұрын
Heyyyy What about the Truckies and the Trucks..... The Backbone of EVERY Team......We deserve a special mention...... :-))))
@AkersJohn2 жыл бұрын
Seeing this after seeing the news that Suzuki is pulling out. Covid + inflation finally catching up. I'm an F1 fan as well and they're discussing amending the cost cap this year due to it. I hope Suzuki, BMW, Kawasaki (the last 2 have great SBK teams) all come into/back to MotoGP one day
@1000sofusernames2 жыл бұрын
Sadly I think motorsport will have a crisis period due to a combination of cost squeezes, technology changes and lack of interest in motorbike racing from younger people. The way things are going Suzuki will probably stop making any race focused machines at all. Going to rag my gixxer while it's still legal! (You never know what laws will come!)
@martinpalmer87622 жыл бұрын
Be good if you looked into sidecar racing start to finish cost etc. Doing a really god job on these videos keep up the good work
@classicraceruk13372 жыл бұрын
At the end of the season can you give the bike back in a skip!!! Or do they expect a running example!!!
@LushmanGB2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative video, maybe each team needs to be limited to a single pop up gazebo 3m x 3m for the hospitality 😂
@Johnnyfreitas12 жыл бұрын
Mate that was an outstanding video! Thanks for sharing that.
@giodc85992 жыл бұрын
7:30 Maverick Vinales this year has been the bestest boy, apparently.
@ls11252 жыл бұрын
When you compare that to Paul Bird who i believe was running on a budget of about £3,000,000 when he had his team in moto gp.
@therealpaddy46872 жыл бұрын
Do a TT event cost Taylor will you plz .. thanks for this one.
@adarshkeswani23192 жыл бұрын
Pretty cheap compared to these insane costs!
@captinktm2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid boss. Me as a life long motorcycle nut who as raced as well, find it hard to understand why they limit fuel in the pretence that they are saving the planet when clearly one less hospitality unit would do the same. It also looks now like these bikes are no longer prototypes. Prototypes of what? Because Ducati/VW and so desperate to win the riders championship they continuously find expensive solutions to get round the rules. It's almost like they are reverse engineering the bikes. 300 bhp plus then work out ways to keep it on track. It almost like they have worked their way into a corner. Where to go from here? 500 bhp self balancing billboards which the rider only sits on on the grid. The fact that there is only one tyre manufacturer is also spoiling racing. There are as you touched on 15 to 20 riders who can lap within less than a second of each other, why? Because they are on the same tyres, with more of less the same power. There is only one perfect line as you know, and the top 10 at least ride this line lap after lap which makes overtaking dam near impossible. Thanks for posting.
@davidgibbons6932 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Taylor! Such a straightforward presentation, but I bet it took a fair bit of thinking and sleuthing to work it out!
@michaelclarke36842 жыл бұрын
My god that’s an eye opener, thank you
@FRv4S2 жыл бұрын
I am sure that Taka Nakagami went over the budget for crashing every single year since he started riding. He should be called Crashing Nakagami!
@markymarknj Жыл бұрын
Thank you; that was very informative!
@AuProspecting-Scotland2 жыл бұрын
Your looking very well Taylor , ooooffft expensive ,well i guess ill have to put my Moto Gp Team on hold just now lol, maybe i'll get some pointers from Mark, but he didn't do too well with Michael interview lol, Niall told me at Knockhill BSB that your responsible for the Mark Videos, it's been so long since we had one. we miss mark , he brightens all our day. Keep safe bud and i feel for you having to put up with all that sun, raining here in scotland.
@What.The.Fluff.2 жыл бұрын
Yes! More Mad Mark please! 😽✌️
@maxkalada59512 жыл бұрын
Loved the video...just liked and subscribed...lets learn more about motorcycle racing.
@tmac772 жыл бұрын
Thanks Max 😁
@bertbroeder18322 жыл бұрын
Yes, Taylor made a good job so far. Thanks Taylor!
@ianyams2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mac 👍
@theenergyhealingstudio2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video ❤ Thank you 🙏
@claretbuck18822 жыл бұрын
Think I might start a couple of teams up bud 😂
@czechhero2 жыл бұрын
Just waiting to win the Euromillions jackpot, then I'm in!
@dayleashleynolasco57652 жыл бұрын
This is a really good insight to someone who really got some idea in this sport . I'm hoping Taylor Mackenzie brings a British Team in MotoGP in 2 to 3 years time whether it's a Satellite of Yamaha or BMW in case they comeback as works outfit in 2024. Of course if he can do that, he needs a solid sponsorship from UK or other countries that willing to take the responsibility.
@leacastle2 жыл бұрын
How does that compare to BSB Taylor? really interesting stuff!
@Showmetheevidence-2 жыл бұрын
You haven’t added / looked at development cost… so what does a manufacturer spent to design bikes and enter the MotoGP first off? That would be interesting
@captinktm2 жыл бұрын
Yes I would agree, because the development of these so called prototypes have very little to do with road bike these days. I am surprised the factories bother. Suzuki know that they sell mostly normal road bikes and MGP adds nothing to their sales or development. The masses can't afford a car, so a 30k bike which will get them killed or put in prison for speeding is a complete no no.
@defnotatroll2 жыл бұрын
Development has to be more expensive than the day to day running of the team. Especially the big guns like Ducati and Honda I wouldn't be surprised if they spent upwards of 30M on development a year
@tmac772 жыл бұрын
I didn’t add development costs as this was for a satellite team just to get on the grid. I’ve done some more digging to get some more figured on a factory team for a later video 😁
@shaunwhitfield1122 жыл бұрын
Mint Taylor 🙌😎and bizarre how much it all cost 🤷♂️😂😂😂😂😂
@allanmason75442 жыл бұрын
great vid again taylor thank you
@nicksidell47972 жыл бұрын
I knew it was expensive but Jesus that is off the scale.
@giganoob19682 жыл бұрын
Great info, THANKS
@LakwatserongHampaslupa2 жыл бұрын
perhaps the safest bet is somewhere between 20M~30M just to make everything into account...?
@flatcapcaferacer2 жыл бұрын
How long do think that spending that kinda of money is sustainable? Besides MotoGp there are sponsorships for World Superbike and lower levels. Unless someone is printing money or has a money tree or two in the backyard I believe there is a mighty reset coming via the economy and factory commitment.
@flatcapcaferacer2 жыл бұрын
@@redactedrider7606 🤣🤣 I do agree 14 million might not be large percentage in their total budgets but I believe the return on investment from MotoGp isn't that great and might be better spent elsewhere. The argument could be made for technology development but even then how much MotoGp can be flowed down to production where it usable and affordable. Liter sport bikes sales have been dropping steadily so I'm not sure where the pay back is, even fewer fans are showing up at races.
@captinktm2 жыл бұрын
@@flatcapcaferacer It's no longer about bikes or racing, look at the show, we spend more time talk bo....x and looking at sponsors than we do racing? It's just TV time for advertising. This is why riders are so bland, never really saying what the feel. They are an advertising billboard, Rossi learnt this early on and has made millions.
@yvesdegheselle2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the info
@timfarley2742 жыл бұрын
We have the costs of running the team, but does each event payout to the teams for each event? I would think so.
@tooyoungtobeold87562 жыл бұрын
Marquez was paid $10 million for the 2016 - 2018 seasons which went up to $14.5 million for the 2018 -2020 seasons
@jimamizzi12 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought as well
@akehurst882 жыл бұрын
Sooo interesting, great video!
@dtfaaron2 жыл бұрын
Now wonder why Suzuki pulled out. That's a lot of motorcycles to sell to cover these costs
@crumblymal84792 жыл бұрын
Wow that is one quick way to spend money it´s just incredible especially for the satellite teams so going down the scale to Moto 2 / Moto3 would it be like maybe 2/3 rds for Moto 2 and maybe a1/3rd for Moto 3 ?? cheers Taylor really interesting stuff you just don't realize 😊👍
@Jimmie922 жыл бұрын
There’s no spaces in Moto2 & Moto3 bro haha
@tinojokic21022 жыл бұрын
valentino rossi said that the gap from moto2 to motogp, on a monetary point of view, is times TEN !!!
@xjr13john2 жыл бұрын
So we need is a big big lottery win!!
@paulprescott79132 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the insight, makes me wonder how much dorna make from it. And you can bet that Honda are spending a big fatter pile of cash than that.
@LordShibuya2 жыл бұрын
Honda and KTM are said to spend €50m+ per year.
@captinktm2 жыл бұрын
@@LordShibuya Are they recouping that from motorcycle sales? No.
@bertbroeder18322 жыл бұрын
Checking their web today: "An experienced multinational team of 280 full-time employees, with a further 300 part-time professionals during peak work periods, are the basis of Dorna’s continued success." Can't find a business report quick. Someone got more?
@kgsxr7s0852 жыл бұрын
So 2000000$ and 50 employees if u do the math thats only like 40k a year per employee i mean that’s basically minimum wage are you sure?? Figured the truck driver alone gotta make more than that plus the engineers and stuff i dont know if that adds up
@mattfourie56122 жыл бұрын
Yup, I think that’s very conservative. I’d say average of 150k per employee. Given that these folks are the best in the business, highly qualified and not the average 9-5 schedule.
@tmac772 жыл бұрын
40K euros is not minimum wage in the UK or in Europe unfortunately. And a lot of people aren’t on salaries, they’re paid by the day as it’s only 21 weekends of the year. You’d be surprised what a lot of people are earning I’m afraid!
@brawlski2 жыл бұрын
Got to love some data :-)
@derekgray77162 жыл бұрын
bonkers, how much do the teams get if they win the championship?
@goldfox3992 жыл бұрын
Does it state in the lease the condition the bike needs to be returned in? Trash it the last race of the season and hand it back
@ramboracing7022 жыл бұрын
Legend!! ✌️
@smithshotracing2 жыл бұрын
what about a BSB team?
@JDye-youtube2 жыл бұрын
I just want to know how much the umbrella girls make….
@VeeFour2 жыл бұрын
It sounds daft, but I’d have expected it to be higher 🤔
@tooyoungtobeold87562 жыл бұрын
British Superbike next and we know you have insiders there (just ask Tarran). I read it was about £300,000 a season. I find BSB a lot more enjoyable to watch than Moto GP.
@kishoresadagopan96302 жыл бұрын
WSBK is far Better than this creepy Ducati GP 😬
@gregrsvr39472 жыл бұрын
Get rid of gravel traps, thats when the crash damage & injuries start.
@iamtherealzombie2 жыл бұрын
Injuries are caused by gravel traps... deaths are caused by sliding into walls at 200+mph. Gravel traps slow down the rider and the bike.
@gregrsvr39472 жыл бұрын
@@iamtherealzombie Gravel traps start the tumbling, the bike goes airborne and the rider starts breaking bones, and heaven help te rider if the bike comes down on him.
@mikew69222 жыл бұрын
That’s the most ridiculous comment I’ve ever heard 😂 and what’s the alternative,…brick walls! 😂 or a 2 mile grass run off on every part of the track 😂 you should really think before you speak! ffs!
@gregrsvr39472 жыл бұрын
@@mikew6922 try watching crashes instead of uninformed comments, tarmac is the safest option, everything keeps sliding without the end over end dangerous tumbling, grass and gravel should be replaced by tarmac.
@mikew69222 жыл бұрын
@@gregrsvr3947 been racing for over twenty years and you’re talking absolute rubbish! Gravel reduces the speed tarmac doesn’t! 🤡
That is a lot of money for what is basically a glorified marketing exercise.
@captinktm2 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@nikkim59702 жыл бұрын
Mega money!
@theunknown45702 жыл бұрын
I got enough for about 6 minutes worth of ownership.
@philtaylor30982 жыл бұрын
Ouch!!!
@user-jn7bq8wh1e8 ай бұрын
MotoGP and F1 growth can explode once they enter India... GP had their 1st race last year... And F1 quit a decade ago due to the previous corrupt govt... Now the boost for manufacturing and racing is higher than ever in India and they can look for 3 decades of growth easily in India and overall
@TenTen322 жыл бұрын
Does the prize money cover the costs?
@martincockings87812 жыл бұрын
i meet you dad at dodington top man
@foylad48622 жыл бұрын
i wonder how much F1 is
@martincockings87812 жыл бұрын
mad so you need £1500000 really to be in moto gp crazy money can you do a vid on WSBK ??
@marks76462 жыл бұрын
How much a team earn?
@pepperjackshack24392 жыл бұрын
More like how much does it cost Lenovo to sponsor motogp and F1
@andremac40402 жыл бұрын
Arabian oil slick50
@tobiasjacobsen_dk2 жыл бұрын
It is not cheap to run a moto1 team !
@stephenwilliams9262 жыл бұрын
More than Suzuki can afford.
@bertbroeder18322 жыл бұрын
I one way Suzuki is doing right!
@nhhammer87822 жыл бұрын
Whats it cost to get oneself into a hospitality tent, is it cash money or do you have to know someone who knows someone. Obviously sponsors etc but can the man on the street blow a wad load of money and rub shoulders with the stars….. cheers.
@samherbert17242 жыл бұрын
Must cost honda repsol a fortune with crash damage with just 1 rider 🤣🤣
@1000sofusernames2 жыл бұрын
Costs about tree fiddy
@hectorherbert65852 жыл бұрын
very interesting but way too much of 'you' filming yourself talking.., instead of moto pics ,vids & material..,nothing wrong with narrating over images..!!