How much it cost me to have a baby in the UK

[@JuMixBoox]

I love when people actually put numbers to things that are usually only alluded to and then blindside you when you don't know what's coming.

[@chastity6062]

The fact that you're so thorough as to include pregnancy transportation costs. My organizational kindred spirit.

[@blaireshoe8738]

Not something I would have ever thought to include personally, but these kinds of details make this style of video all the more mesmerizing to watch. It's so thorough and interesting without expounding *too* much on any specific thing yet explaining each thing well, I can't look away. 10/10

[@evieb6321]

was watching and thinking the exact same thing haha

[@07dparte]

Big love to the subtiltes changing 'tory government' to 'horrid government' haha - Also love the transparency, such useful knowledge!

[@theonlyenekoeneko]

Oh that makes sense, thanks for including what it actually said! Deaf audience can’t know without good captions 😊

[@likethecityaustralia]

For Americans, the total amount is around $4300 in USD. For reference, the average cost of a vaginal birth in the US is ~$18,865 and for a C-section ~$26,280 per the Kaiser Family Foundation. Out of pocket costs (if you have insurance) are $2-3k. However, if you don’t have insurance, you’re eligible for Medicaid. That’s just for the medical cost of *giving birth,* not anything else. The NHS is AMAZING!

[@savannanewman5838]

and that’s why I can’t afford to start a family folks 😢

[@PixieLovesItAll]

"if you don’t have insurance, you’re eligible for Medicaid" LOL 🤣

[@PantalaNagaPampa92]

Cries in 20 weeks pregnant in America 😅 I paid a "global fee" of about $350 with insurance which covers 13 visits and a vaginal birth. Doesn't cover any optional testing, ultrasounds, additional visits, c-section etc

[@velocitygirl8551]

This is almost insulting when you’re American and watching this lol

[@debbiedion5731]

Our country made a promise to all British citizens that ALL citizens would be cared for via government,I'm proud of nhs,its amazing,no person gets left behind to be sick or worry about the cost.

[@amyisbored27]

Watching this made me so grateful for the amount of hand me downs/gifts we were given with our boy to cut down all the costs!! Didn’t spend any of the baby furniture money, got a pushchair/travel system from friends and my mum kindly took me shopping for nursing bras and bought me a nice pair on maternity dungarees which I wore non stop for the last 3 months of my pregnancy! We saved so much thanks to friends and family helping us out! I wouldn’t like to consider the amount we spent on postpartum takeaways though lol

[@jasminewaldron2195]

As an woman in the UK wanting a baby at some point this is so enlightening my bf big reason is money and this really helps to get a real idea and will probs how I buy baby stuff thank you xx

[@oushbaboosh5578]

Interesting! One element some people never seem to consider is the financial situation of your family, or whether you have an extended family to gift you things.. if you receive less gifts life simply becomes more expensive!

[@parismagentarose]

This is super fascinating! I think lots of these could definitely be hidden costs you may not think about when considering the cost of having a baby! Living in Australia, I’m always so grateful for our free health care (ours is called Medicare) of course similar to NHS it’s not without issues and has been subject to cuts and overworking from COVID, but I think it’s incredibly important to show that countries can and do run every day without charging their citizens for healthcare!

[@ANNEM90]

I found that the biggest cost were in the smallest things together. Like warm water bottles for in the cot, thermometer, baby bath, baby carrier, changing mat, things like that.

[@hayerssings]

That is literally half of what just the hospital cost here in the US having my baby in March 😂😂. Bless. That doesn't count any of the items I have needed or baby has needed.

[@Cat-sw3jn]

One of the reasons I switched hospitals with my first pregnancy was because of parking issues (there were other reasons). When my baby was in the NICU at 3 different hospitals, I was given a weekly pass which cost either £5 or £10 a week depending on the hospital. Actually, the hospital where I gave birth also gave me a weekly hospital pass because I had to be monitored every other day in my 3rd trimester. It seems stupid but not having to worry about parking made difficult pregnancies and post-births a lot easier.

[@r.darling4135]

i had never thought of this factor on a large scale!

[@SevCaswell]

In Wales it is now illegal to charge for hospital parking. I can only hope that the same is passed in England.

[@nicksiii]

@@SevCaswell oh wow how great!!! 😀 here in Australia we still have to pay ... and I have chronic illness' so I go to hospital a lot. It's expensive unless someone can find park in the backstreet.

[@LemonSte]

It's so encouraging to hear you weren't let down by the NHS in your pregnancy and birth. I had started to think that I might have to wait til I was financially able to go private with at least some aspects.

[@SamWest96]

I had an emergency csection and was also really well looked after (even felt involved in the decision to have the csection) and there was one really shitty midwife post partum but otherwise I was really well looked after, even in diagnosing a life threatening infection

[@vemtaylo]

Loved this video, so informative! One thing maybe you missed or maybe it wasn’t as relevant for you but for myself I spent a bomb on pregnancy test during both my ( sadly very short ) pregnancy. Due to previous MC I felt the need to test so many times with pregnancy tests and that really added up

[@claspring]

I'm sorry to hear about the miscarriage and hope you're doing ok. I purchased (online) a multipack of v simple early pregnancy HCG test strips, because I was horrified by both the cost and the plastic on the ones in the shops. I didn't use ovulation kits but I think you can equally get simple cardboard ones too.

[@SelinaLismet]

Very interesting video 😊 I expected it to be higher, but that's probably because I thought you might also include the missed income from the channel, which you could also see as a cost.

[@morehannah]

That’s a good point! I was just focusing on expenses for this video rather than loss of income but you’re right there’s so many different kinds of “costs” too like emotional, mental, relational, body etc.

[@Katielovegood44]

My first baby was born in hospital, and due to infection both baby and I stayed for a full week. All we paid was the parking and it was £20 a day which we complained about but really... that's literally all we paid for 😂 Food was great too, they always offered meals to my husband too.

[@ajs41]

Hello Hannah, sorry to go off topic, but - having just watched your video entitled "Am I Raising My Baby Jewish?" - I just wanted to say how pleased I am that you decided not to circumcise your baby boy. I'm not Jewish but I had to have a partial circumcision when I was about 4 years old and it was a horrible experience which I hope no-one else has to go through. Best wishes, Andrew

[@armandamura7336]

I love how the captions said "horrid government" when you said "tory government" 😂also, thank you for this breakdown!! Was so interesting to hear about it.

[@JudyCZ]

0:52 Kinda love that the subtitles say "horrid" while you're saying "Tory"...I mean if the shoe fits, right...? Also thank you for including the conception in your calculations.

[@rosiejones4132]

This vid was SO INTERESTING! thank you. I’m in Wales so we were lucky that we didn’t have to pay for our hospital parking. Have loved all your vids on pregnancy - I also had a 9lb1 baby boy on 30 April via ecs!

[@jamiesomers9384]

My daughter had her son in July, he was c-section at 34 weeks and didn't even weigh 3 lbs when he was born. He spent almost 4 weeks in the NICU and the cost for that stay alone, nothing else, just the four week NICU stay, was almost $146,000. Thankfully she had insurance that covered everything, but it's easy to see how uninsured and underinsured people here in the US can be financially crippled by things as seemingly simple as having a baby.

[@cephinisemodestin3348]

Just in case your nosey like me, if all of the prices were the same and this was in the U.S. the conversion on this is 4255.71 USD.

[@alyssahickson511]

In the US, Washington DC specifically, my absolutely minimal birth (there for

[@alissa6380]

So sorry you had to go through that! Absolutely extortionate

[@barbaraeisenhardt4948]

This crazy to me. I had a c-section in Germany. Because I'm insured privatly I have to pay all my medial bills and the hand them in to the insurance-company to get most of my money back. (Most Germans don't know their medical costs, because the bills are sent to the insurance companys directly). 10 years ago that c-section with a 6-day stay in hospital cost 3000 Euros.

[@josefine635]

@@barbaraeisenhardt4948 What happens if one can’t even pay the 3k upfront, even if you know you‘re going to get it back?

[@codename495]

DC is literally the most expensive area in the US.

[@julialunsford7071]

@@codename495 it’s one of the most. New York, Jersey and California are the top three. But yea, DC is a lot

[@UllisEP]

I’m curious to know how you and Dan divided these costs. Me and my partner has a similar economic system as you (and it was in fact greatly inspired by your video) where we put in money on a joint account, the amount decided by how much we earn comparatively. We are trying to conceive and my initial though has been to simply up the total on that account and carry on as usual. However, when watching your video I realise that some on the things that usually would fall under the personal expense category (like clothes), falls more into the common expense category as the pregnant body wearing them is making a baby for two. Have you changed your thinking around this at all and/or changed your arrangement since you became pregnant and now parents?

[@nelly5376]

I live in the UK, it's about as much as I expected, and thank you so much for sharing! This is really helpful for a person like me who may (or may not) birth a child in the UK in the near future

[@andreaswitzer9694]

This was so interesting! I'm a Canadian in the UK and have wondered what it will cost / be like having kids here one day!

[@facedelune67]

If you're comfortable sharing, what was the % pay cut you had on maternity leave and after ? Or your husband ? Maybe you can talk about it in your revenue breakdown video next year ? Great video as always, can't wait to see you enjoy mom life ❤

[@vb5519]

I like how it you give a realistic look of doing it in a smart way. An antidote to all the (often American) and rich vloggers who buy so much and say its all essential. Its unnecessary, consumeristic and implies you aren't a good parent if you don't drop hundreds on the reg. In Sweden, with assistance from the government, negotiable childcare and hand me downs my brother surprises pregnancy in uni very young wasn't a big deal financially.

[@SamWest96]

I wish I'd calculated this. Mainly because we got so many things for free from friends and family second hand. Also because we spent so much on bloody hospital parking where we were in hospital essentially 2-3 times a week for the first 3 months 🙃 I often want to calculate what my journey would have cost in the US, and then I think I'd rather stay sane

[@stagetopage]

This was so oddly satisfying to watch and I have no idea why.

[@charlottec7998]

that's enough contraception for today... Hannah you are my comfort person

[@cassnnyl]

My son was born in September. Without insurance my hospital bill was just over 11k and my cost was 3k for my deductible. My son’s bill was almost 2k. We took out supplemental insurance and flex spending to spread out the cost so those bills were reimbursed but that’s only because I started planning our options a good six months before we even started trying to get pregnant. I also had a substantial baby fund from years of saving up to have a kid.

[@SamiiWoolz]

Currently 8 months pregnant, must say, I've had 2 hospital appointments, one was free parking the other I'd say about £10 the rest for free at the Dr's surgery but everything else, we spent far to much money on, the one that made me choke was £40 on clothes! I spent £40 on Tuesday just browsing sainsburys we've definitely spent closer to £250 maybe even more!

[@lauramoore8823]

I adore a cost transparency video! This did make me wonder how much we spent on having a kid. I know it was more, but I'm worried it was a LOT more. Especially certain categories I know i spent much more like maternity clothes and baby clothes (definitely overpurchased for newborn phase). I was working outside in winter at the time and I bought a LOT of leggings and a lot of sweaters that would cover me.

[@smileyface702]

This is so organised and well-displayed!

[@Eucis93]

I haven’t had a baby, but I believe it’s the same or less here in Finland. When my mom had me and my twin brother (in the early 90s, mind you) we were both NICU babies, and we were in hospital for 8 weeks I believe. My mom was also in the hospital for about a month before she had us. I have asked her what it cost in the past, I can’t remember exactly but I think it was a couple thousand for just the hospital stay. We have a welfare system though that can cover such expenses depending on the circumstances, so I’m pretty sure that in the end it was either completely free or my parents got most of it back. Me and my brother have some health issues, and our welfare systems makes us eligible for completely free specialized healthcare. We spent alot of our childhood in various hospitals across the country starting at 12 months of age, and it was all free, including medications, treatments, surgeries, rehabilitation, helpers and physical aids. The welfare system also built two new rooms onto our house when we were 4 y/o, so we could have an accessible bathroom and a bigger bedroom to fit both our wheelchairs and hospital beds.

[@sophieirwin3497]

Parking at hospitals…I know that frustration. So I generally get the bus to the hospital I work at (luckily I don’t live that far away and have relatively normal/sociable hours) as taking my car would be a nightmare as finding a parking space is a mission and then spending £7 a day for the privilege of parking at my place of work if I did find a space

[@dominiquenorman3913]

I'm very fortunate that my total only came to about £150. I didn't buy anything really myself except for maternity clothes/nursing bras, a few pram accessories, my vitamins/folic acid, nipple pads, a few different creams for me & baby, and a baby carrier. I don't drive so it was my nan who was spending on petrol & parking for appointments & everything else was second hand from friends of the family, found for free on facebook marketplace, or gifted by parents/grandparents on either side. I'm also eligible for some things for free due to my financial circumstances e.g. we were given some books by a children's charity

[@LJCecilia]

Hi Hannah, would love to hear if you ever want to elaborate on child care costs. I’m an actor based in Ny and do much childcare work for survival jobs. 400 lbs seems like it would be quite low in price for a month’s worth but maybe the UK functiona very different than the US on this. Thanks for reading 💕

[@embenard]

That would be really interesting! BTW the pound sterling is £ not lbs!

[@brookeshotwell9916]

Holy shit, this is literally a fraction of what it costs in the U.S. 😥 A fraction of what it costs JUST for the actual birth visit in the hospital, not counting ANYTHING else. 😭

[@claireh2200]

This is actually more than many spend in the uk. Ive had two kids and not paid for any parking or tests prior. There are also a few schemes available that offer grants for the baby stuff. After the birth most people are also eligible for child benefit so the government gives a weekly amount of money for every child until they leave full time education

[@aShadeBolder]

interesting. so, if we ignore time taken to conceive, it averaged out to about £303/month of extra expenses minus any "not drinking/going out" savings. that's still more than I would've hoped. conclusions: * it's gonna be expensive even with hand-me-downs & 2nd hand for most of the baby stuff * there are some areas to save (no one outside your very specific job needs 5 fertility apps, and gym/tennis are obviously optional quality of life things that someone who really wanted/needed to cut costs could opt out of), but I expect it'd be difficult to reduce to £250/month or less * uber was less than I expected. either there are no where near as many medical appointments as I think there are or you live within a 5-10 minute walk of the hospital (not judging if you do. I'm sure if the symptoms are bad Not Walking that distance would feel worth it) * I like my B cups far more now that I know what it costs to clothe large boobs * yay NHS!

[@tiny.raindrops]

Thank you for speaking about finances, it is so important but so rarely done openly

[@kso4104]

cries is American 🙃 i just got my hospital bill and WOOF. i’m thankful i have insurance through my job, but i wish it covered everything!

[@giulia4756]

I'm Italian and I've just realized that the name Bravissimo is a pun, cause "Bra-" is for...well, bras, and "Bravissimo" stands for "great, very good", so I guess they're saying they're really good at bras! Sorry, I had to share this.

[@bryonyw4739]

Omg I can't believe how much we spend on bit associated with babies! I've never put a figure on it before 🙈 I'd love to know your reusable nappy journey and how it's going? I definitely save A LOT of money not buying nappies and wipes all the time. I saw a stat saying you spend over £550 on wipes alone for 1 child 0-3 years. But if you invest in reusables although it's a high one off cost it save in the end 😮

[@sheriroyalty2042]

You tallied up costs here that I never even considered 😅 I could not begin to tell you what my costs to have a baby here in the US were (my son is about a year older than yours). I can tell you my out of pocket costs for just the birth were $4,000, because that is the max out of pocket for our (good!) insurance. My ultrasounds took place in the previous calendar year and totaled about $1,000 on their own. Most other prenatal visits are fully covered at least (they have to throw us a bone or two, right?).

[@janasrnkova653]

Here you get the medical cost for free as well, biggest issue is that you have reduced salary to 70% of your salary while you are on maternity leave, which is 6 months, and then or if you are unemployed or a student straight afret birth as well, you get only 77% or the MINIMAL (not your wage, the minimal wage, which here it is 16200 czk, which would make 577 pounds, so you get 444 pounds a month while at home with your baby) wage monthly. Said in other words, you have to rely greatly on your partner's finances and if you don't have one, you are doomed.

[@carolinaazevedo2088]

Hwre in Brasil we have SUS ( universal health system is portuguese) wich means that if you are visiting Brazil and enters labor you will have your baby for free. Even if you are not a citizen.

[@alhhbjtrdcnko]

Would love to see you talk about pregnancy costs with a non straight/cis person, like the recent parenting video with Jessica. Costs go crazy when making the baby is more complicated than consistent sex 😅 though at least they're working on a fairer fertility treatment on the UK for LGBT+ parents. Hospital experience differences (eg. treatment of your pareners) would also be an interesting discussion

[@cariiinen]

Love the detailed breakdown! So interesting to get a glimpse into people's lives through their finances. Thank you for sharing. So glad we were able to get almost all of babies things second hand, as that stuff really adds up! You also often don't know what your baby will like before you try it, and many things are only in use for a short (but intense) period.

[@LivvieMarshall]

I'd be interested to know how much is costs to actually raise a baby in the UK..I've heard friends paying over a grand a month in child care (per child) just so they can go to an office job. Think I read somewhere it's one of the most expensive countries in comparison to wages

[@meeganerose98]

You are so creative love it so much. Incredibly helpful 💛

[@intuitivelyeating6702]

This is so helpful thank you!! I'm currently thinking about how much I'll need to save to be able to have a baby in the near future, and while I live in another country I imagine the costs would be relatively similar.

[@KateHistoryMysteries]

Have you considered the savings from maternity/postpartum exemptions for things like dental/prescriptions?

[@els9559]

This is brilliant!! Thank you so much for being so transparent!! (Would you mind sharing the bouncer/high chair situation?)

[@gretabikelyte5640]

Any expenses on the pregnancy vitamins ?

[@LadyMephistopheles]

If you know your size, I recommend shopping at Brastop! They often do discounts (quite big ones, too). I got a tankini for my massive boobs (I've also got large underbust so there often isn't a lot for my size) on sale for 5 quid.

[@evieb6321]

i am absolutely not planning on getting pregnant anytime soon - BUT i love love love all of this content!

[@lalaillustrator6295]

Feeling greatful for the NHS!!!

[@YvaineFra]

I also only ever bought and used Bio Oil for my belly which turned out in zero stretchmarks!

[@TheAct10]

This was so interesting, so many costs I hadn't even considered like parking! Thank you for sharing ☺

[@valarya]

I'm crying in American right now. How incredible to have national healthcare 😭😭

[@Nelle4ever]

No, it's not. The system will always run at of money. You're trapped with your medical team and clinic, you don't have other options, unless you have money to go private. And I imagine Hannah pays a lot in taxes. It’s not really free.

[@Karincl7]

@@Nelle4ever i had 2 kids 20+ years ago , no costs, my favorite doctor, after a year my girl got sick, paralysed on the left, now 26 still going strong and a huge part is free healthcare .... if you wonna be selfish complain about taxes and pay all the lot yourself

[@Allietracks]

Very thorough! I do wonder in terms of pastnatal maternity care, what you thought of the community midwives home visits once you were discharged? Also, health visiting home visits. I think it’s a lesser discussed aspect of nhs maternity care that America for example, don’t get. X

[@SixtineLys]

Thank you so much, this kind of information is so important !

[@cottagebirder]

interesting video! only thing i can think not included was pregnancy tests x but that might be a bit personal to share if u were trying for a while xx

[@rosieposy8]

This was really interesting. Thank you for sharing. I certainly scrimped on some things and splurged on others- love a good facebook marketplace or ebay bargain. I am Expecting baby number two and at least we can reuse lots of things like the bassinet and buggy and car seat. I do love secondhand toys and books for baby. Jumperoo was the best thing ever.I think I would be horrified if I totted up all the little things I spent on but you assume babys need certain things from baby wearing wraps to tomme tippee machines and bottles. Definitely things like nappies and formula end up quite costly although breast feeding can also be expensive when needing lactation consultants,pumps, tongue ties cut all the extra support. It sounds like you did very well with a mixture of secondhand and new things. I'm not sure things like clothes for changing bodies should count as need to buy these things anyway.

[@mallorylischer]

My sister probably spent $3,500 us for a home birth. Midwife is a family friend so she gave her a discount. Traveling, prenatal vitamins, stuff for birth and baby. Really not bad. Hospital here are very expensive.

[@codename495]

For an actual Nurse Midwife for prenatal care/birth costs without insurance ( which would likely cover almost nothing for a home birth because they are idiotically dangerous from a legal standpoint at minimum) is around $12,000

[@sarahreddin9601]

I am currently at 12,000€ due to IVF treatment. and sadly still no baby :( 2 miscarriages and lots of heartache!

[@jennifers5560]

❤

[@annabeljones-vanboxtel4142]

I was expecting it to be more! I think because my tendency is to buy the prettiest new things for everything 😬

[@honeybee19892]

The maternity clothes amount seems low. Did you buy all 2nd hand? The Bravissimk bras must be pricey too..

[@jasperj.d.g.4147]

She did + gifts and things that still fit.

[@emmamcnulty9720]

Pregnancy tests & folic acid/ pregnancy vitamins too

[@kathyh8047]

that top (dress?) is so nice!

[@aaa-tb2he]

Hey what about the baby bath or sanitizer for bottles? Or you had other options for this?

[@agatablacha6602]

We need to stop saying that the healthcare in the UK is for free. We all pay national insurance and should demand that our government delivers health care that we pay for through this payments. I think this attitude change would help us all demand more from our politicians. Love mama from the UK working in the wonderful NHS Xx

[@lenausesyoutube]

I'm not from Britain hencewhy I ask. How is the NHS funded? Do you have to pay for that with your taxes or do you pay health insurance?

[@charl3963]

The NHS is funded by what’s called National Insurance payments/tax which is means tested, meaning only people who are working pay for it, the amount you pay is based on income and everyone else is still entitled to it despite not paying into this. On my current £32,000 annual salary ($37,000) I pay around £210 per month ($245) a month😊

[@MsMargottM]

What about folic acid/ pregnancy vitamins? Are those covered by the NHS?

[@georginakenna2428]

No, you pay for those yourself

[@franny5156]

I love that the subtitles equal torrie with horrid government xD

[@cristinatulielle7016]

Hi, expecting mum in the UK too. I would like to know which high chair you choose?

[@SamWest96]

Please please please just grab an IKEA one! Cheap as chips and unquestionably the best one there is!

[@cristinatulielle7016]

@@SamWest96 I'm looking for non plastic, high quality and durable. Something that we can use for years and years, even when it grows up. Thanks for the suggestion tho.

[@jasperj.d.g.4147]

@@cristinatulielle7016 they have some in IKEA made from rubberwood but Dream Baby used to have very durable ones. Don't know if they still do.

[@VeganMe]

Love this video. I'm not pregnant yet but have anyway spent a small fortune on pregnancy tests sadly. Did you do any prenatal / parenting courses (NCT etc) and if so would you recommend or say they were value for money?

[@sannecheney-steijger9393]

What happens to the reusable nappies?! 😅

[@iStacieN]

Really interesting video, thank you for sharing! Please may you share where your top/dress is from?

[@DroDro3]

Thanks for this video i wouldnt consider stuff like parking or gym. I was thinking way more. 10k or more but im glad I was wrong

[@AdaminaCarden]

I always found it absurd how they charge for parking at hospitals... I mean I'll take the free healthcare but it's still nuts to me... pretty sure they don't in NZ

[@CarolineJuneee]

Perhaps missed pregnancy test costs? And perhaps mentioning that we pay for health services through national insurance. Great video as always 😊 x

[@lemondrizzlecake7766]

yes but the national insurance is not related to having a baby. You don't suddenly get charged with more NI when you get pregnant, so it's not a baby-related cost.

[@CarolineJuneee]

@@lemondrizzlecake7766 Hi, thanks. I know that. For the benefit of non UK residents though, the NHS isn't 'free'. We pay for it through national insurance.

[@lemondrizzlecake7766]

@@CarolineJuneee I think everyone understand that public services are funded via taxes, so I don't see the need of specifying this in the video. It's not a uk-specific thing, any country with publicly funded healthcare works this way!! (also as a note: Americans also pay taxes that contribute to national healthcare, since they have publicly funded programmes such a medicaid and medicare. And yet they do not have healthcare that is free at the point of service).

[@CarolineJuneee]

@@lemondrizzlecake7766 OK, cool.

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[@sarar4901]

Are fertility treatments like IVF and IUI covered by the NHS? Or are they like transition care where they're theoretically covered but it takes forever and people usually end up going private? I'm in the US and often even good health insurance doesn't cover it and you're just out of pocket.

[@charl3963]

I believe you are eligible for 3x rounds of IVF on the NHS (free of charge), I’m unsure about IUI. I know the wait list a few years back for IVF was about 1 year with the NHS. You can go private for these treatments too if you choose and it is generally less expensive than what it costs in the US 😊

[@Louisyed]

It depends where you live and whether you meet the criteria. E.g. in many areas you can't get IVF if either partner already has children. You often need to have a BMI under 30. Same-sex couple often have to pay for many costs privately before they'll be considered by the NHS.

[@sarar4901]

@@charl3963 Oh interesting! Thank you. Yeah, I have been doing research, and here three rounds of IVF are likely to run us $10k without PGT or $16k with it.

[@sarar4901]

@@Louisyed Gotcha. I can see how that would be very frustrating if the criteria excluded you. Thanks for the info!

[@WeAllLovePineapples]

In some health systems in some parts of England, you can get IVF on the NHS, between 1 to 3 attempts. However it’s very difficult! You have to have been trying for a year, then have tests with your GP, meet some very particular thresholds, wait for a consultation and then go on a waiting list. I don’t personally know anyone who has successfully had ivf on the NHS, friends who’ve had ivf all had to go private in the end. We’re still lucky to have the NHS, but ivf treatment is massively restricted.

[@charliebradford4369]

I know that this was more of a side note than a point of the video. But there's so many more issues to the NHS then underfunding. There's the institutionalized racism. the medical abuse and neglect that's in no way related to funding issues, them spending more money by not treating issues instead of just helping people. For example the treatment of young chronically ill people, chronic pain and fatigue, mental health issues, lack of reasonable adjustments made, the pure ignorance, the lack of regulation around pharmaceutical companies actually having to publish all results instead of just the ones that look good for them / will make them money, doctors being allowed to have gifts (such as food, accommodation, travel, training) from companies that's proven to affect their judgement and prescribing, these advertisers commonly being allowed into medical staff only areas to promote their products with access to confidential information, the sexism, the treatment of trans people, the treatment of autistic people. They put DNR's on autistic people over covid without medical need, consent or even telling them. There was a guy who died of dehydration while on a ward begging for a drink that medically he could've had - he even called 999 begging for help. Some things I've experienced, I was told it was physcially impossible to have a seizure alert assistance dog and even if you could there'd be no point, this was the argument given by a paramedic refusing to let my assistance travel with me to hospital (required by the equality act 2010). My ribs have been broken and my shoulder has been dislocated to ''prove'' I was faking a seizure. I was threatened with a mental health section for refusing paracetamol, despite me being deadly allergic to it and my medical records saying this (he didn't know he could do it verbally and luckily I was able to escape before he killed me). I was assessed by the MH team 5 times in 1 day because they wanted to ship me off to psych so I wasn't their problem anymore. I was sent home by patient transport while in cluster seizures (they refused to drop me off at home seeing how bad it was and I got taken back to A&E and immediately patient transport was booked again). Part of my treatment plan is when I recognize I'm going into a psychosis episode I have a short 1-2 week stay in psych, this helps and reduces the length and severity. So I called to do this and was told ''it's not a free holiday''. 1 1/2 weeks later I was sectioned and was in psych for months including time on the intensive care ward. All because they didn't follow my treatment plan that they made (with me) and couldn't be bothered to treat me. I've had a nurse come over while they thought I was asleep with paracetamol to put it into my IV to try and ''prove'' I was faking to be able to ship me off to the MH team again. I've had staff write that I've said I'm in no pain when that's a blatant lie. I'm unable to get a hysterectomy, if I got pregnant not only would it be an immense amount of trauma but I'll die, it's also causing me a lot of health problems not having it all removed. Reasons for refusal, I'm under 35, not had 2 kids, not got my husbands approval (I'm gay and asexual I will never have a husband - when this was mentioned it was suggested I might change my mind). I had to fight patient transport for 3 hours to book transport to a hospital procedure that I was unable to get to myself (I'm unable to drive, public transport isn't possible when I'm fasting as I'm constantly fainting and seizing, taxi's were £150 each way), they didn't like that I was so young, and that I needed an assistance dog and Carer (I had to explain to the woman that humans don't smell seizures before they happen) and then on the day they lied and said I wasn't in. My front door was open - they physically couldn't have knocked without me knowing. I've experienced disability discrimination while stood next to a massive wall sign explaining the equality act and promising not to discriminate. I've been severely injured when they didn't listen to me during medical procedures (I need child sized tubes due to scarring in my throat, they didn't listen and tore my throat open). The gaslighting. I've been screamed at by paramedics. And every single time it's been reported to PALS (complaints service) nothing has happened. TW: r@pe I went to the hospital for help after I was assaulted, I didn't want police involvement because it's never helped before and was just more trauma. I was told I wasn't actually assaulted, I was lying. And I was sexually deviant and just wanted to be treated down there for my own sexual pleasure. TW OVER I can be thankful that the NHS has saved my life at times, while also being furious at the pain and trauma caused by it. More funding doesn't solve all the issues, yes it's desperately needed. But we need so much more change. And now. Because there's so many unnecessary deaths that have nothing to do with funding, I've nearly been one - multiple times. We need to be honest about all the issues. This isn't ok and while we continue to say the only issue is funding, harm will continue being done and people will continue to be needlessly traumatized and killed.

[@rachaelamber22]

You forgot things like maternity pads. I've bought two packs.. I'll probably need more.. I don't know

[@impossiblyizzy]

first thought: oh, that's not actually that expensive! second thought: I would spend WAY MORE on baby clothes than you

[@cheninblanc]

Only one 10 pound pack of ovulation tests? No pregnancy tests?

[@theaudiobookaficionado]

omg i had to google "pushchair" that's one i've never heard before!

[@nic3525]

Parking is free in Scotland and Wales at hospital.

[@HoneyBee57192]

Very different experience of the nhs I'm glad it went well for you but they literally caused my birth trauma

[@seallofapproval]

I'm so sorry you went through that ❤️

[@Karincl7]

It s with your dr not the nhs

[@dreaminbluu]

My C-section (with insurance) cost me $7k. Yay America 😅

[@CaseyCausley]

question: considering the fact that you are a content creator who earns a living from creating content about this, did you write some of it (I guess for example the outfits you talked about in a specific video) on tax?

[@XiXzXa]

Cries in American. To just try and conceive we paid over $30,000. I believe we spent $5,000 on just delivery for my son, and then around the same for my daughter who unfortunately passed away at birth.

[@rosianna]

WHY ARE PRAMS SO EXPENSIVE

[@morehannah]

You can definitely get cheaper ones but we went kind of bouji

[@mrmr3015]

I really don’t think that the disclaimer that we all love the nhs is always needed. It has a bunch of problems, one of them is underfunding. We would be worse off without it, but it is a service we pay for with our taxes not a charity.

[@julialunsford7071]

I’m just sayin, as an American, you should feel VERY blessed you have the NHS. The average cost of birthing a child in America is $12,000

[@mrmr3015]

@@julialunsford7071 mate you don’t need to tell me how I should feel, especially if you have no first hand experience. I actually have experience here and in a few other European countries and can tell you that there is lots wrong with the NHS. Criticising the status quo is the first path to improvement in any situation.

[@julialunsford7071]

@@mrmr3015 that is true. I did not discount that. I am just stating that you are very very lucky to have the opportunity for free healthcare. It is a privilege.

[@mrmr3015]

@@julialunsford7071 thanks for rephrasing your previous patronising reply. The sentiment is still just as unnecessary. I’ll just stay over here feeling how I feel about my healthcare system. Just look at philosophy tubes new video. People are dying in this system because of bigotry and lack of Care.

[@julialunsford7071]

@@mrmr3015 I do not intend to be patronizing, this is just based off of my experience with MY lack of free healthcare. Neither feelings are invalid. My sister has type one diabetes - her monthly insulin costs $1,000 WITH insurance! Hundreds of millions of people with illness and disease have BEEN dying in America because of NO governmental healthcare assistance whatsoever for hundreds of years. There are still opportunities to offer criticism of your government services whilst still accepting and understanding its privileges. Like it or not, you are very privileged. I can say I am also privileged to have certain things in America. But when it comes to free healthcare, your country rises above us in many aspects.

[@luciedvorakova2167]

Nowadays I find a little awkward how all Britons glorify their free universal healthcare as if it is something special. But today every developed (with the well known US exception) and even some developing countries have free universal healthcare, and many of them are even more funded with better outcomes than the NHS.

[@morehannah]

I don’t deny it’s poorly funded as I say in this video. One of the reasons I’m still keen to shower love on it though isn’t because I think it’s unique (because it isn’t, and shouldn’t be) but because there’s a real threat to it at the moment with many politicians wanting to privatise and I also want to support NHS workers 💛

[@luciedvorakova2167]

@@morehannah OK, I understand you now, the threat of loosing NHS is real, which would be a catastrophic step backwards. But I feel many British people (not you) are stuck in the 1940s still thinking that the NHS is a world leader which is no longer the case. Because of this attitude they’re blind to the 12 years of Tories successful NHS destruction.

[@Nelle4ever]

But I'm sure it's helpful for people in the UK to see.

[@superfrenchthellama]

Sitting here as a Canadian, think "Yeah our healthcare is free too!" and then you mention going to a private physio and it's like "wha... you mean usually it's covered?" Canada is such a weird hybrid of the European and American systems 😅