How much RAM memory do you REALLY need for music production

How much ram memory do you REALLY need for music production?I tested how much ram memory do you need for your DAW in Logic and Studio one with real music production projects.With sample based plugins you need more memory than with synthesizers.
Memory is only one of the factors to determine the speed of the best computer for music production, besides cpu and ssd hard disk.
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[@donharrold1375]

I just bought a new Mac and followed your guidance; maxed out the processor and went for 8 GB of RAM. Working like a treat so far.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

great! HAve a lot of fun with it!

[@ym3peat234]

Did u buy a Mac air or pro ???

[@donharrold1375]

Lil Mari I bought the Mac Mini. I7 processor with a large SSD. I do wonder if I should have gone with 16GB RAM as upgrading the Mac Mini is possible but expensive and realistically most people will need to get the upgrade performed at an Apple approved service centre.

[@MadelnMachines]

I've seen a couple of youtube videos doing tests with omnisphere and kontakt (with big professional orchestra libraries). With 16GB RAM you can get about 24 instances in Omnisphere and about 35 with Kontakt. Kontakt also has a purge function that saves you a ton of ram. I don't think i'd ever come remotely close to using that amount of RAM.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

thanks for your input

[@MadelnMachines]

@@DexxterClarkMusic It's still tempting just to have the 32GB just in case but as that is a custom configuration macbook pro 16 inch I can't get discounted 3rd party sellers prices. This means to get 32GB ram I would need to pay £640 extra (715 Euros). Quite insane!

[@emiljova4473]

@@bobafruti what laptop is that?

[@emiljova4473]

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[@emiljova4473]

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[@dean-marr]

Thanks for this video. I use ableton with 8gb mini m1 256 with 24 tracks and its phenomenal 👌 I don't need tons of plugins and use outboard gear going into tracks. I treat my computer like an analog 24 track and I like having limitations

[@joeyvpoisonfree]

Limitations are HIGHLY underrated in the world of music production

[@solodolo1037]

you make a lot of simple, relevant videos thats people dont really think of making lots of help thanks 👍🏾

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

I appreciate that! Regretfully they do not have many traction

[@ahmedbahubaishy8851]

This may apply but not with all genre. Orchestral music will take way more than you think.

[@kidsonicofficial]

I produce Drum & Bass and the amount of RAM needed may be higher as well depending on how much processing is used if not bounced out.

[@nairsheasterling9457]

This. Also, learning how to use a screwdriver and building a pc negates the whole "you can't upgrade your cpu" thing, and will cost so much less. Am slated to build a 5900x build with rtx 3060 12gb (I really don't need 4k gaming at this point in time), 3 tb nvme storage and 4 tb sata ssd mass storage, and 128gb ddr4 for less than 4 grand after tax, including sleeved cables, gpu brace, rgb bling, and a 360mm aio cpu cooler. Could I shrink down to 64gb and get a 5950x instead? Sure, and that's definitely a consideration. But yeah, it's 2022; I get using a prebuilt for the gpu, but at the very least buy and install component upgrades like ram (you can get 128gb ddr4 3600 cl-18 ram for like 620 usd max, and getting extra sata ssd storage is pretty damn affordable - 4 tb drives can be as low as 350 usd for 6gb/s sata III drives.) Unless you are a professional who literally doesn't have time or you are forced into the apple ecosystem (and even if you are forced into that, tbh) you are leaving performance for less money on the table. It's 2022, it's really not hard to learn to build or spec out a custom pc (unless you add custom water cooling, in which case, godspeed!)

[@pkwiva]

I'm upgrading my MacBook Pro: From a 2009 15" MacBook Pro with: CPU: 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory: 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 RAM Graphics: NVIDIA 9600M 256 MB Storage: 320 GB SATA HDD To a 2020 16" MacBook Pro with: CPU: 2.3GHz 8‑core Intel Core i9 Memory: 16 GB 2666MHz DDR4 RAM Graphics: AMD 5500M 8 GB GDDR6 Storage: 1 TB SSD I'm still waiting on the new MacBook to be shipped, but I'm on the fence about whether or not I should return it when it arrives and upgrade it to 32 GB RAM. Currently, I can't even use up the 4 GB RAM on my old computer even when I try to push it to its limit (at least for my needs). I produce music and edit videos, but I keep things pretty basic in my productions. To test my RAM usage on my old MacBook Pro, I ran 10 of my most used programs simultaneously (Chrome, iMovie, GarageBand, QuickTime, iTunes, and several other similar, yet less known AV programs) with each program performing various tasks, especially GarageBand which was playing a project with 25 tracks and 4 instances of Kontakt running (which is usually the most I do in my productions) and I was only able to use 3 GB of RAM with 24 MB of swapping to the HDD. I assume that I will continue to use the new MacBook in a similar manner, just with newer versions of the same software on a newer OS that could be more RAM-hungry than the outdated software I'm currently using. But still, I don't normally run 10 programs at once. I was only doing that to test a worst case scenario. For this reason, I'm fairly confident that 16 GB RAM will be sufficient for my needs, but it bothers me that I see so many people suggesting that 32 GB RAM is the way to go, which is why I'm still on the fence. Fortunately, going from 4 GB RAM to 16 GB RAM (in addition to the upgraded CPU and everything else) will probably feel so nice that I won't worry anymore. I suppose I'll just run the same test on my new MacBook when it arrives. I'll run all of my favorite programs all at once and see how much RAM is being used, and from there I'll make my decision about whether to upgrade to 32 GB RAM. Anyway, thanks for the informative video. You've given me some piece of mind, for the most part. I appreciate any tips or feedback you can provide regarding my situation.

[@pkwiva]

Update: I received my new MacBook Pro yesterday with 16 GB RAM. This new computer uses much more RAM because it has a 64-bit CPU. When the OSX is completely idle with no open programs, it uses 3 GB of RAM. When I use GarageBand with 8 instances of Kontakt (the most I'll ever use), it uses 13 GB of RAM with 100 MB of swapping. There are no noticeable performance issues even with heavy use of large sample libraries, so I think I'm gonna stick with the 16 GB RAM.

[@chaslinux]

Dexxter, right now might not be a bad time to buy RAM if you have the extra cash. RAM and storage are both pretty inexpensive at the moment. The price of RAM does tend to fluctuate pretty drastically (16GB right now is about 1/2 of what it was in 2014/5). All it takes is for manufacturers to have an issue with a factory or a "shortage" and prices go crazy for quite a while. That said 8GB really does seem to be a sweet spot for most tasks at the moment.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

yes indeed good tips!

[@martabubiak5768]

8gb is the absolute minimum if you make bigger projects you WILL run out

[@shan5445]

8gb is not enough you need 32gb

[@EliasJackson]

"You can always expand your memory later" *cries in Mac*

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

That's the Mac life, you need to think a couple of years ahead before you buy

[@harryzona1]

wow! a lot of info, but you made it all make sense ! Thanks much

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Jack-zc1qp]

Finally a straightforward explanation on ram for music production, thank you!!!!!!!!

[@Jean-dn9ii]

is 16gb ram and 512 SSD good for music production? I’m gonna be using common plugins like omnisphere, keyscape, electra x on fl studio

[@citrustimber6105]

16GB RAM is probably the sweet spot, 512GB storage is good I guess, but if your plan on getting a whole ton of plugins then you might wanna think about getting more than that. It also depends on whatever else you'll be doing on your pc. For example, do you do a lot of video editing? Play lots of games? Or just space for plugins? From here it shouldn't be too hard to decide, if you do lots of video editing, and play lots of games that take up a lot of storage, it's pretty obvious to go for a TB of storage or more. But you could need that much if you're really serious about how much plugins you plan on getting. I hope this helped, and if you have any other questions, all you have to do is ask.

[@yougave3867]

@@citrustimber6105 I need a information... Not about the storage... About the ram... Will 8GB ram be enough for omnisphere, Nexus, Keyscape, Fabfilter, and some more plugins on FL Studio 20?

[@yougave3867]

@@citrustimber6105 Please tell... And what is the size of omnisphere...

[@citrustimber6105]

@@yougave3867 maybe, but go with 16gb if you can, just to be safe

[@iiiiii2828]

I need some help. I just bought the 13”, i7 (10th gen), 16 gb ram, 512gb storage. I thought that bumping up my specs significantly from my last computer that I wouldn’t experience issues with CPU. Unfortunately, with only a maybe 10 plugins running and 10 audio files, the audio crackles and pops and the CPU on my DAW says it goes up to 47. Do I try to get a 16”? Is this an issue with the 13” only? Do I try to upgrade to 32gb or RAM? Or should I be looking to switch to Logic? It does get pretty warm too.

[@ALBERT-oh5wy]

damn i ordered yesterday the same mbp, what did you do?

[@pdubsouthwest]

I have a i5 6core and 16gb. Anything more than 3 vst's I get the same crackles and pops and around 40-50% ram usage. Im bumping to 32gb. Eventhough the daw may not use much itself other things on my computer are eating ram aswell. So as a whole ram usage is high.

[@rt-uh6mt]

I know this is 2 yrs old but unless you're just goofing around always do 16GB if you plan on running pro tools or ableton or else you'll be really limited by the number of tracks or plugins. Also, while RAM can often be upgraded every time you open up a computer you really risk that it won't ever work again. I've had two different computers have major problems after making very basic upgrades. Some kind of CMOS or bios issue one time and possibly static another time. It's awful when it happens.

[@DennisFeinsteinCEO]

I've got an Asus Vivobook 15... Ryzen 3-3500u, 4gb, 128 SSD I'm running Cakewalk and Neural DSP VST's... I can only record about 6 guitar tracks (buses) on a song without an audio dropout. It's served me well to get my understanding of recording and music production up to par. So I think I'm going for a Ryzen 5 -5500u, 8 gb, 256 SSD... Upgrade memory later on 👍

[@mostyles328]

Great video! I'm and IT director and always wondering what people are doing with all this RAM? I can run dozens of servers off 64gigs of ram in the virtual world. Extra RAM never hurts, but rarely needed. When it is needed, it's already time to upgrade your computer again. I think 8gig works for 90% of the population, 16g for 8% and then you crazy 2% will never have enough!

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

I think you are absolutely right.... I think that some even don't know how to start the task manager (ahum system monitor, sorry apple users) to check it.

[@jerryhill8281]

I'm have 8gb ram in my laptop and it struggles baaad with a few vsts running. Audio DI or micd stuff it can handle pretty alright. So really depends on vst or audio

[@Fredo.4400]

Not necessarily I upgraded i7 32 for recording and production now I’m limitless

[@MANS4ON-Ce137]

Some virtual instruments might straight up take 6 Gb of RAM simply when loaded, like some of the bigger ones for Kontakt.

[@eliasmadeline3054]

Thanks, this was enlightening 🙏🏽

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jerryhill8281]

Yeah with 8GB of ram I can barely run Superior drummer, a couple kontakt or IK vsts. One of the drumkits in SD3 expansion is like 6gb. I'd say get 16gb right off the bat so don't have to worry about it later.

[@nameinvain6]

I got a gaming laptop cause I figured if it can run games well at high settings it should be able to handle music production. 16gb ram and i7 processor. A hefty price but I think worth it :)

[@7hew0lv3r1ne]

I'm also looking at something like that. I'm considering 32GB RAM + i7 CPU, but now I'm wondering if I should look for one with 16GB RAM + i9 CPU?

[@Kalaxian80animations]

@@7hew0lv3r1ne doesn't sound bad at all :D I think you should go for the i9 for a faster processing

[@ElitePropertiesByJarel]

I got BandLab on my new iMac Pro I jus bought it has 8gb and for some reason it has Audio glitches with sound and stuff on BandLab. Do you think it’s the app? Because I got the computer today just for making beats

[@teleruin8686]

I have a laptop with 8 gigs of ram. I use Studio One, and Superior Drummer 3. I often come in the situation that if I dont mix down the drums to waveforms the drums wont trigger certain effects like sidechain compresion and stuff like that. I thought that it was lack of ram that was responisble for this, and was thinking about buying a new computer, but you think that is not the case ?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

doesn't sound like a ram issue to me. Look at your system monitor how much ram it "eats"

[@teleruin8686]

@@DexxterClarkMusic It was using around 90% usage ish when I had the project loaded. I shall be said that the memory usage even before Studop one was started was around 40%, so I guess there are some background tasks that could be disabled. The reason I thought of it as a ram issue as that I figured it didn't have the memory to mix down the drums in memory in advance or something. It didn't happen when the projects were small, only when they grew larger.

[@MannyWalks]

I'd say 32gb! Ozone is heavy , Kontakt Native Instruments libraries for orchestral stuff super heavy 🤔 Spire, Sylenth1, Massive, Serum, Ana, Diva etc are easily handled with a 16gb 👌👌

[@SakaNick]

Manu Bee kontakt make mensad hahaha

[@Official_KC]

It really, really depends on what kind of productions you're working on. If you're doing huge orchestral or cinematic music, then 16 GB at least, I'd say. But if you're working on a sort of indie rock or pop song, or most hip hop songs, I'd say 8 GB could be enough. I still think 16 GB is where it's at currently. But of course the CPU is the really important thing these days. They've been the bottleneck, along with hard drives, for so long! Having these 6-8 core cpus and solid state drives is such a big difference from the early 2010s

[@908two]

yo what about Omnisphere

[@cristiangongola8138]

Thank you for this video! (Takk for videoen!)

[@gurulifeline9479]

I read your article then watched the video lol I knew what you were going to say, thank you so much tho you saved me 1,500$

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

You can predict the future :) you are welcome :)

[@simplecountrydrummer]

Thanks for that. I got 32GB on my new desktop. I see that is going to be more than. As for processor that can be controversial. For PC you got your i5 and i7 however the i7s are generally under clocked because of heat especially in laptops where as the i5 you can get away with overclocking a bit especially on a desktop. Not quite that simple however given the choice between to to I would go with the i5 just because of the heat produced when it is crunching numbers. I would rather a slightly slower CPU that runs cooler than a slightly faster one that won't last as long. Whatever way you go one thing to not over look is you are going to need a lot of storage so I set mine up with a 1TB SSD for OS and programs only, a 2TB SSD for DAW samples and projects both video and audio backed by a 3TB HDD for storage of file not often accessed or completed coupled with a 2TB external drive for backups.

[@Eoj24]

I am looking at investing in a laptop for video production, as well as music production,podcasts and school work. Would 8gb ram be enough. would 16 even be enough

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

depends on what you want to do with with, just like a said in the video. Sample based instruments? more RAM!

[@roman2374]

Well if you want to work on video and be able to do even slight multitasking I would go for 16 GB. But unless you're doing complicated edits with 4k video or similar you shouldn't need more than 16GB.. I like working with lots of sample based MIDI and sometimes get frustrated with my 16gb ram but oh well...

[@MadelnMachines]

@@roman2374 What are you doing to max out your 16GB when working with audio - track counts, libraries, omisphere instances etc?

[@jokerlowk]

@@DexxterClarkMusic is 8gb good enough to record and mix vocals and also video editing at 1080p? Or would 16 be better

[@realSeanMcMahon]

If I’m looking to run a small band of musicians thru Loopy Pro (with AUs running) from an iPad, better to have an Air with the newer M1 processor and 8GB or go for 16GB iPad Pro with A12x bionic? CPU vs RAM?

[@brendanhoffmann8402]

I had a 2015 MacBook Pro with 8Gb of ram running Logic Pro. It struggled. I ended up getting rid of it and getting a Ryzen 5600x system with 16Gb of ram. It is much more powerful (Using Ableton 11). Real time effects work well but I need to turn the latency up. I just upgraded to 32Gb of ram but think I might get a new cpu soon too, a 5900x. I predominantly track rendered audio files and just a few midi tracks. With a large project (50+ tracks) the ram starts to become an issue.

[@AugmentedNick]

I always have to restart my laptop multiple times while recording a song (guitar). After adding 4 5 tracks, the sound starts to flicker and it just disconnects for 10 15 secs then comes back flickering again. I use cubase and have 16 gb RAM, i5 11th gen on my dell laptop. When I checked the memory usage, Cubase only took 882 MB but still there's this sound issue. Not sure if upgrading a RAM will fix this. do you have any suggestions?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Dell XPS by chance? those are notoriously bad for producers

[@AugmentedNick]

@@DexxterClarkMusic thanks for getting back to me.. Its Dell Inspiron 15 5518..

[@uselessoldman7964]

Maybe this needs to be revisited with Windows 11 Pro? Just bought Asus ProArt mobo 5600x and with 32Gb WIndows 11 reserves 8Gb all for itself before you start loading apps and samples etc. That still leaves a lot of RAM spare but its cheap, DDR4 32Gb 3600 was only £110 and DDR5 has significantly dropped in price since I upgraded. I would say RAM is now a none issue, just chuck 32Gb at your system and forget about it, unless your really going silly and yeah I guess 64Gb but seriously this would be an extreme case and exception.

[@sebastiancano3442]

Hello!, got a question, if I want to mix and master without problems, do you recommend more RAM or better processor? I want to buy a Intel Core i7-13620H with 32gb RAM

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

depends completely on what you want to do synths: more cpu sample based plugins: more ram

[@craigdaubbeats-rapinstrume9185]

I just got a cheap desktop with 8 gb ddr3 ram. I think it's 3.2 up to 3.6 MHz. That should work for now right? I also just bought the MPC ONE which is a hybrid standalone/controller so I won't be tied to the computer much. The specs on the standalone are a little weak which is why I bought the desktop to do more complex stuff that I won't be able to do with stand alone. I also figure having a desktop I can always upgrade some things as I grow. But mostly I'll be using the MPC 2.7 software. I'm actually making the switch from FL studio which I've been using the past year to MPC. I needed a change and was starting to feel like a robot making music. That and back in the early 2000s when I messed around for around 2 years I was using more physical gear and the music just sounded more natural and less computerized.

[@Kraflyn]

...aaaand then you load Shreddage3 guitar in kontakt or some heavy choir and it eats up few GBs alone :D

[@Canqwertz1]

If you do basic beats or are a amateur 8gb is more than enough. But if you want produce, mix and master your tracks in one project you need a good cpu and at least 16gb Ram. If you want to compose music with huge kontakt libraries (orchestral soundtracks ect.) you need at least 16gb (32gb or 64gb better) of ram and a really good multicore cpu with great single core performance

[@north7295]

Also im pretty sure mac and windows handles ram differently. My windows 10 tends to idle at around 3-4 gb without anything open so we must take that into consideration.

[@hunterprice3320]

Would 8gb be enough for just mixing songs and maybe some occasional midi

[@Canqwertz1]

@@hunterprice3320 depens what kind if work you do. If you make simple beats yes. If you use big Orchestral Libraries and make komplex soundtracks no. But its not a simple question nor a simple answer

[@SEge-tm8ei]

which laptop is best for mixing music with logic Pro X? is it apple or windows?

[@romualdkinimo1004]

Great video...I never noticed that Logic Pro was using 2GB of ram for my bigger project. But even though I have 12gb of ram I still get the “system overload” message....any idea why it’s happening?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

that's the CPU not the memory

[@ithethird6267]

That’s the main reason I’m updating my ram. You’re saying it’s CPU does that mean I’d have to upgrade something different from the ram ?

[@cun7us]

@@ithethird6267 CPU and Ram and two different things. Think of the CPU as the "brain" of your computer which does all the processing, and Ram (random access memory) is memory for handling data on the go. If your CPU is slow then it doesn't matter how much Ram you have, it will run slowly. It's possible to upgrade the CPU on certain machines but you have to check first and it's not easy to do on your own.

[@vndgkng]

I've used 4gb of RAM since 2015 and counting. I'm getting ready to get an Asus laptop with 20gb RAM. Is it worth it?

[@Official.Uncle.cpp0]

Hi, I just got a core i5 6th gen 16gb ram dual core processor laptop I want to begin my production career with fl studio don’t know if I could use it?

[@sofia-de2jr]

I'm planning on buying an M1 imac with the 8 core CPU and GPU, 8gb RAM, will this be enough for logic pro to run smoothly if I'm working with orchestral music?

[@zuz2366]

So I’m a 17 year old rapper and all my life I’ve been writing music and now i need to set up a studio. I was looking for a laptop online and I saw this Dell Inspiron laptop from Best Buy that has an i5 processor, 8gb ram, & 256gb of ssd storage. I’m just getting it so I could buy this one beat from this website. I’m also going to use it for future projects too. Is that any good??

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

depends a little bit on what you are going to do with it, just like I explained in the video. Be careful with the Insperion. Google the specific typenumber for latency

[@DREQON2005]

So what if I’m just strictly recording songs only and not producing do I need more than eight ? Just curious

[@pepperpig649]

Yeah I hear a lot of people say 16 gb of ram is too little but honestly I'm using 8 at the moment and I am more bottlenecked by my cpu tbh. I am going to upgrade to 16gb which i will not be able to upgrade but I think it will be enough to use until I get a new pc maybe after 7 years. I am a beginner btw. If I already was experienced I would have maybe opted for more but I think 16gb is just right for beginners and amateurs.

[@igorhui]

you are probably in need of processing.

[@pepperpig649]

@@igorhui decided on 32gb ram, ryzen 3600 and rtx 3060

[@diegoburgo1726]

Hey! great video :) please talk about the new Mac Mini with the M1... and MAXIMUM 16GB. Future proof? How about also live instruments and lots of vocal tracks? Cheers and thanks!!

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

I did a poll on the community tab and only a handful of people were interested, so I ditched the video idea. The M1 is the future for apple. Don't buy intel macs anymore. But there is not a lot of (DAW) software out there yet for these macs

[@lordwilksy]

Hi dexxter that's very interesting... So would you say an 8gb 256 MacBook Pro 2020 [using logic or a digital keyboard] would be ok?

[@kay7003]

thats what i wanna know because im buying one iswell

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

no, you can't expand. take the 16", not the 13" because of hte 16" has a better heat distribution

[@REFLECTIVEofficial]

I'm planning on using 8gb of ram with 256gb SSD for music production. Most of the time I'll only be having Adobe Audition opened up. No other program running in the background.Is that fine?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Audition is an Audio editor, not a DAW. You can't use midi instruments that can eat a lot of RAM for example. Real time effects might eat a lot of CPU, but I don't expect a lot of RAM. It has been 15 years or so since I used Audition (before Adobe bought it), so I can't say exactly. Depending on what you are going to do, but chopping up some audio, both 8gb and SSD are a huge overkill

[@lrks9830]

Would a Intel Intel Core i7-10510U Quad Core (1.8 GHz base frequency, up to 4.9 GHz base with Intel Turbo Boost), 8GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD + 32GB Intel Optane. Be enough for music production and plug ins such as bass and electric guitar mic and keyboard?

[@oozly9114]

8gb has been fine for me so far

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

yes indeed

[@BradDollar]

Great vid! The short answer: as much as you can possibly get. Rinse and repeat for the rest of your life.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Exactly! But that is not what most people want to hear

[@michivanhalen7086]

What would you recommend if I use Omnisphere and keyscape? Maybe later some orchestra stuff..?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

go big for sample based. some say 64gb.

[@Sincity89103]

I have the Asus predator helix 300 I7-10800H (8 cores) 16gb 3200 ram GTX 3060 When I run FB live and stream audio from abelton 11 to OBS to FB live I use about 50/60% of my ram I can use plugins that are open but once I try to open up say a waves plug in like an eg the moment I try to adjust the plug in Abelton will crash!!! Does this mean I need more memory maybe upgrade to 32 gig ram so abelton doesn’t crash? It only crashes when I have OBS, and FB live open all together at 50-60% ram usage. Cpu is only at 20% and video card less than 10% (6gb video card) it seems like 16gb of ram is the bottleneck responsible for abelton crashing????? Thoughts everyone????

[@north7295]

Mac and windows handles ram differently. Windows 10 idles at 3-4gb of ram usage for me without programs being open. Mac users might think 16gb is enough but for windows you might need more especially for music production.

[@ShriiDev]

Very informative video !! Loved it !

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Glad you liked it!

[@BenjaminKoloi]

Still producing with i3 4GB RAM 4 years already. This teaches me to use stock plugs, where 3rd party plugs use much memory capacity, it crashed my pc.

[@shanebanner9591]

Wait so if you don’t open multiple projects at the same time 8gb will be enough? Cause I have Komplete 13. I have it on my iMac 2019 but I wanted to get a Mac mini for when I produce on the go.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Kontakt sample based instruments are quite heavy on the the ram

[@johntorey1103]

So is 16gb good for do FL studio ? If I was to use it on Mac

[@dboucher26]

I have 16GB of RAM and my computer still borrows memory from my SSD. I do a lot of photo editing.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

then you need more ram :)

[@ianmccue1122]

Great video!...I can’t lie though - like many I just want to produce a bit of cool music in the bedroom with a half decent set up that might just be worthy of a release on a label . I would like to use Kontakt instruments occasionally for some of the sounds. That being said (and again like many) these instruments will be ‘now and again’ and hardly like those pros producing film scores. I use logic, so I’m ‘tied’ to Mac. And I’m sure those loyal to logic are all a bit perplexed with the M1/unified memory release that’s recently come out on the Mac Mini that I’m looking at. I may indeed go for the 2018 model for the fact you can upgrade the RAM. I should note that I also use analog lab software and and an arturia midi controller Simple question - Taking the above, are we saying 16gb will see this comfortably dealt with or is my soul destroying fear pushing me to 32gb something that I need to listen too? 😂

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

I would wait a bit on that M1 line of products until Apple ironed out the first kinks. I think you can come along way, but I'm not ignoring Kontakt can be pretty heavy on the ram .. and a lot of Kontakt instances ...

[@guitarplayer5235]

If you talk about Music Production you should specify in the title thats it's for MAC users ,which is a different world from a hand made comp windows 10 on .

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

thanks for the tip

[@enico8027]

how about a mac 8gb and 1tb fl studio 20 will my cpu be slow ?

[@oozly9114]

should be fine mac has good audio processing!

[@mistermartendj]

Thx for the info :) What do you recommend, macbook pro i7 32gb ram or i9 16gb???

[@rijulsachdeva3513]

From my opinion if you're getting a Mac then better get the M1 chip or wait for M1X or M2 chip. I think 8gb Ram also would be sufficient

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

8gb is not enough on a mac, because you can't expand later. spec it out to the max

[@mistermartendj]

Oke, thx for the info. I saw that the software companies didnt upgrade their software for the m1 chip... is this just a matter of time? And do you recommend to get an i9 or just wait all the time for the new m2 chip or something?

[@rijulsachdeva3513]

@@mistermartendj I'm gonna buy new macbook too Cause my bro just broke the last one though that was an M1 chip and I was fully satisfied with it. Yes, it has some irritating glitches and softwares aren't updated but as you said that's just a matter of time. So as I said I'm gonna get a new one. It's urgent for me to get a macbook. So I think I'll go with M1 but if it's not urgent for you get M2 or M1X whatevers going to be there cause it will be in 14" and probably the 13" will discontinue so it'd be a big loss to get 13" M1.

[@mistermartendj]

@@rijulsachdeva3513 allrightt, thanks for your point of view!

[@CroElectroStile]

so i have a windows 10 system 250gig SSD on C and another 1TB HD on partition D, Ryzen 5 /6 core processor, i want to buy a SSD for a backup, and one for my library, right now i have 8 gig or RAM can you please tell me if i need to add on 4 more or 8 more if i want to make big orchestral project with large kontatk libraries on Cubase. or will 8 gig be enough for that? and how will i know if it isnt enough what exactly happens! i would greatly appriciate your help, thank you! Edit: yeah i forgot to ask, what would you recommend for saving projects, to my D partition or external drive?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

orchestral is sample based

[@CroElectroStile]

@@DexxterClarkMusic yeah i understand, but i dont know how to calculate how much will i need, so kontakt that has spitfire libraries for example, working in cubase is 16 gig not enough for that?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

@@CroElectroStile go higher, 16 gb can be scraping the barrel if you are doing a lot of tracks

[@CroElectroStile]

@@DexxterClarkMusic if i utilize the DFD buffer size, that kontakt is using the SSD, red about it somewhere that it reduces RAM do you know maybe how much then is it recommended? so you would buy two 8gb RAm on top of my 8gig

[@shanmadawa2347]

I use recordbox 6 so the ram keeps filling and recordbox crashes I got a 16gb ram and i7 9th gen

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

Rekordsbox doesn't need 16gb ram. That "sounds" like a memory leak in the software

[@TElle-oo8kn]

I am not familiar with so many DAW's. I use standards protools for school. How does that compare please? Is it the same?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

yes I guess so. it is more the plugins that take up the most memory and CPU usage

[@Transentlove]

I have a m2 air 8gb and I been thinking of returning it for a 32gb i9 MacBook Pro

[@gangemol]

Hey, but what about having 2x 8gb ram? As I know, not every program can use both of the ram panels. So what if for e.g. ableton needs 9gb ram, can it then switch to the other free 8?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

computers generally don't see RAM modules as individual components but as a whole. Swtiching between RAM modules is something your Operating System (Windows) does automatically: your program asks for a chunk of memory from the OS. Your OS gives it to the program if it is available. It is very likely that memory of one program is on 2 separate RAM modules.

[@gangemol]

@@DexxterClarkMusic thank you so much for your answer!🤘 you're doing a great job.

[@DjR3aper]

I have a Dell inspiron 5th generation i7 (2 cores) processor with 12Gb of ram. Will a new laptop with 8gb ram i7 processor be faster ?

[@johntorey1103]

@@Key.Fantasy what about 32gb

[@avalancha08]

I record music using Reason 10 and ProTools as a hobbyist. I mostly do guitar, bass snd vocals and a few pluggings here and there. Would Surface Book 2 (8th gen, quad core), 8GB ram be good enough? Or should I go for Lenovo c90 with 12GB ram, 10th gen core? Thank you, your video is so informative.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

in terms of build quality the surface book. but the specs are a bit low

[@avalancha08]

Dexxter Clark Music Thank you so much for your response. I truly appreciate your video and input. I really want to keep the Surface Book, but I do think the C40 is better value. My heart is split, but I’ll probably go with what my gut says, and keep the C40

[@Fredo.4400]

You can get a i7 I run i7 7700 32 gb ram run flawlessly I can mix full vocals sessions with instruments and high gig plugins and samples

[@dylansitler2771]

What if I'm trying to have like 5-10 big plugins run at the same time?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

depends on your plugin. is it sample based or synthesized

[@ayangko744]

Will it work on 1gb ram?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

not with modern software

[@Ankitsingh-vf4mt]

I have only 2 gb ram in my computer, so can I use 1tb usb ram for running fl Studio... Plss respond

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

don't go that route. you are asking for trouble with latency, especially when you talk about usb 2 (which I think you use since you are talking about 2gb ram)

[@Ankitsingh-vf4mt]

@@DexxterClarkMusic but it's doesn't support my computer

[@jedeyemastar5648]

you can use 8 gig if you mix down every channel to audio which is not always pleasant for workflow. using library from output on 8 gig ram forget about it .

[@Fredo.4400]

lol man this is a pain in the neck cause if you want to rearrange or add you gotta redo it and re export maybe even change other sounds around lol

[@DFJ-qq3uf]

Its 2022. V13 wave plugins n mac software making 16g mem the standard

[@coolhandluke9987]

This exact question has been haunting me for days ...thanks for addressing this. All the tech stuff that goes with creating music really is not my specialty..I just want to know exactly what i need to run as much plugins as i want at once with no cpu overload & I can still hear my audio clearly before i export?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

In that case you should get your hands on the most RAM you can get, then you are probably safe. But I have to warn you, that is ridiculously expensive

[@riickbeatz]

Is there A DAW for a low end pc of 1GB RAM?

[@gertsfeltbeats]

what about ram speed? 2666 vs 3200, etc..

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

good one, I mention it in my computer videos, not here. It makes a difference, but I don't think many will notice

[@gertsfeltbeats]

@@DexxterClarkMusic oh ok, good point

[@PrateekGuptaOfficial]

When you render midi, you can disable plugins in Studio One to spare up more RAM memory. Also, freeze MIDI in studio one is more logical than in Logic Pro X somehow. LOL.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

you want prevent freezing because it takes a lot of time. Freezing in Logic is one click, Studio One is at least 3, I don't like that.

[@PORRFNK]

I think the video is missing some important stuff. In your case 12gig would not be optimal, you need dual channel with same specs. And capacity. Otherwise it may slow down your ram, this in done in the bios on a hardware level. Furthermore you are missing that some people use 2 or 3 adat linked up to one soundcard. In my case that is 28 channels of audio recording at the same time as processing with plugins in realtime with a latency around 4-6mS. Then I have the DAW which already contains sounds and additions VSTs and some software editors on the side for controlling the synths outside of the DAW, and then you add the OS, in this case Windows which can really be a memory hog, and you rather want to avoid using a pagefile. My conclusion is 32Gig like mentioned by others. If you are just using a few samples and a few VST's then 8 would be fine. But for a more professional setup, it wouldnt work at all.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

thanks for the feedback

[@flyaway6646]

I need 16. I'm a heavy sample user.

[@parasiteunit]

Then, (respectfully)... Adapt. Change your workflow. Sample preparation makes a world of difference. Used to own an old EMU hardware sampler - the memory was shocking... Maxed out at 128meg. Yes MEG. SO trimming the fat was a basic need. Case in point, do you really need a higher sample rate? A 192khz sample of something that has next to nothing above a 500hz frequency - like a kick drum? Excessive. I've sampled a kick in 22khz with a 16 bit sample... Sounds fine. There's the classic "fast taping" trick... Used to be used all the time with older hardware samplers... You have the sample playing twice it's normal pitch & speed (so a 800hz sound is playing at 1600hz for example and lasting 0.5sec as opposed to 1sec). That sample will use less memory when slowed down to play at its normal rate. If the sample is converted to a mono one also... Your memory needs are slashed. It's an effort to be sure, but it used to be an absolute necessity

[@prbrrrrrrrrrrr4424]

Is 4gb ram enough for recording voices for rap

[@smak8224]

Yes

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

for recording only, probably yes

[@darko8134]

@@DexxterClarkMusic would I be able to use pro tools tho?

[@8bitskyliner]

I literally just want a laptop to record guitar riffs for my band nothing more.. protools with 4 gigs would work?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

what a weird combi.

[@pkwiva]

4 GB RAM was the sweet spot a decade ago, but these days 16 GB RAM is the new sweet spot. It depends what kind of machine you're using. I have a 2009 MacBook Pro with 4 GB RAM, running Mac OSX El Capitan. This machine was optimized for 4 GB RAM back in the day, and generally, any programs or systems that would exceed its memory limits simply aren't compatible with this machine. The main reason for this differentiation is due to my old 2009 MacBook Pro CPU being based on 32-bit architecture (which can only handle a maximum of 4 GB RAM anyway), while newer processors have now upgraded to 64-bit, which in turn, consume more memory than their predecessors because they can handle infinitely larger amounts of RAM. With that in mind, this 2009 machine doesn't typically exceed its RAM limits even when I'm working with fairly complex music productions and running multiple programs at once. I never had any latency issues recording live instruments and little to no memory issues when mixing and rendering. That being said, newer systems are optimized for higher RAM limits. So if you're trying to get by with 4 GB RAM on a newer machine with a newer operating system, and trying to run the latest version of Pro Tools, you'll probably run into performance issues with only 4 GB RAM, as 8 GB RAM is the bare minimum these days when working with DAW's.

[@AS-hv5lo]

I got 128 gb of memory on my Mac Pro and Kontakt is gobbling up about every bit of that ram :(

[@quintonudink3538]

Wtf how?

[@Mope333]

@@quintonudink3538 that’s what I wanna know Lmao, he must be talking about ssd, it can’t be ram

[@DanielStaff_]

I open up my template to write a new song and its using 22.9gb haha.. all thanks to acustica plugins mostly.. some times more ram is needed hence todays upgrade to 64gigs.. goodbye memory errors!

[@CannedFunkMusic]

Studio One definitely don’t meet my s to Andra’s because of the memory handling.

[@shan5445]

You need i5 to i9 cpu and atleast 32gb of ram to feel comfortable. Don't just have enough and more than enough.

[@somerandomfatguy.3384]

Can some one just share their ideal build under 1000-1500$ having it mind that the build is also for some what gaming 144p

[@psychopsycho1797]

Thanks u for DJ Ebook

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

you are welcome !

[@elbora]

you forget to mention about limiters... when you oversample your project x8 or even more. (other plugins oversampling too but limiter is the most common scenary)

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

well, yeah, it will eat more memory, but also more CPU. And I don't get why it would be limited to limiters only. OVersampeling in synthesizers and saturation plugins etc will also eat more memory and cpu

[@elbora]

@@DexxterClarkMusic yeah i know i didn't want to be sooo specific on first commentary, but i wanted to wrote this because i was looking for someone who make a video who shows how much memory a professional needs.. but you forgot mention about oversampling... at least with limiters

[@YKCHAMPION]

Is a 12gb RAM good or nah

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

depends totally on what you want to do (as explained in the video). With a lot of sample based instruments, you'll probably run into trouble

[@tapansharmamusic]

you are using a mac, not the dame case in windows.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

explain why

[@tapansharmamusic]

@@DexxterClarkMusic os of macs is optimised and run faster, windows on the other hand are a bit slower and more background process than in apple, I guess.

[@testowykana1763]

@@tapansharmamusic "I guess" is not enough. Years ago I read comparison between Mac and Windows PCs, and Windows based machines could run more instances of the same plugins under Windows.

[@Kashfrmdaway]

I Have A I7 10th Generation 4 Core 8gb 512ssd and I Can’t Even Record With 3 Waves Plug Ins I’m About To Be Upgrading To 32 GB Ram and 1TB Ssd

[@teampyro911]

The Cpu matters very much also sir

[@Kashfrmdaway]

@@teampyro911 Ik That I’m Just Building A Whole New PC

[@dimem7ke]

8GB min, I recomend 16 and a i7 or i5

[@cleciorimas]

Subtitles, please!

[@takcus]

!6 or 32 gb? you can really answer this 8 minutes long? ;p

[@juliorocha2541]

Mac Pro 13 is the one ?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

which one?

[@svansy]

ableton and bitwig are quite heavy from my experience. i most often get to 10-14GB in an average project. it all depends on how your DAW operates and what kind of music you produce. e.g. light romantic songs with a single singer and a single piano will require much less than complex experimental techno or classical music.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

it is not you daw, but your plugins that require the most ram

[@wikkidselekta]

16gb in dual channel...8gb x 2.

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

dual channel even better :)

[@cardbored_]

Unless you have a good, quad channel motherboard. I'm running x299 and went with 4 x 4GB sticks initially and maxed out the 16gb pretty quickly running a few instances of Omnisphere and Kontakt. There's no "right" answer for how much RAM someone needs, the first question should always be "what do your projects look like, how many VST instances are you running on average per project and WHICH VST's?" using more than 16GB is pretty easy with larger, complex projects. I'm not running 8 x 4GB sticks and 32GB seems to work best for my uses.

[@rex_beats2617]

8gb ram? For Fl studio?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

its the plugins that eat up your memory, especially sample based ones

[@rex_beats2617]

@@DexxterClarkMusic I know but,can fl studio working on 8GB ram without big problems?

[@xostir5082]

would the macbook pro 13’ early 2015 still be good for music production? using it now in 2020???

[@kjubmusic]

which specs?

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

apple dropped support for the machine, I wouldn't go there.

[@kannigelspeelt680]

nederlander 100%

[@Insomnia_tic]

You can’t change memory on some laptops

[@kostasvapo69]

mortals dont use something other than windows 10. and at windows 10 os the programs work very differently

[@DexxterClarkMusic]

I can do the same tests on my windows mahine, I don't think it will matter much. I think we will have differences in KBs, maybe MBs but not GBs

[@caiusquiroz7453]

i3 8gb ram 😢, I hate my life