M3 MacBook Pro - How much RAM do you ACTUALLY need?

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How much RAM in a Macbook M3 do you really need? Is it worth it to overpay? Today we will tell you about how much RAM the MacBook M3 has, and how much you will actually use in 2023 - 2024! Watch the video until the end to find out!
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[@jeromescott2113]

So many KZbinrs forget how RAM intensive running a VM is. I have an M2 Max 16” with 32 GB of RAM because I’m using Parallels for certain programs. Not to mention a Docker container to run SQL Server Management Studio. Yes, 18 GB is a good baseline, but it’s not just video editing and music production that uses RAM.

[@rpaulseymour]

As a creative, I'm looking for stable diffusion ML image generation and LLM text models, as well as Blender 4 for occasional 3d renderings. NONE of these KZbinrs even mention mention these. These M3s seem made for these, and also real developer work... not simply video editing. I think the M3s have proven these "reviews" need real experts, not just random people hitting "run" for random benchmarks.

[@efrenamandy2594]

I want to run 3 parallels VM at the same time, do you know if this would work fine on an M3 Max with 36gb ram?

[@tsizzle]

@@rpaulseymourjust curious, are you able to do intense ML LLM training without nvidia GPUs and CUDA?

[@andersonfuller]

How much faster does your battery drain when running the VM? Plan on buying an M3 MBP 16" and running in coherence Windows Excel (I work in finance but love the Mac ecosystem), but was told by some techies that I'm buying a Maclaren and driving it in a school zone. I was also told that by simply running the VM, my battery will get crushed. However, I figured if I got the 32GB Ram option, I would be fine.

[@jeromescott2113]

@@efrenamandy2594 I usually run a single VM in parallels, so I can’t say for sure if 36GB of unified memory would be enough for running 3 concurrently in Parallels. My guess would be probably not. I would go with at least 64GB of unified memory for that.

[@DBX79]

8GB is a joke in 2023. I don't know why Apple would even try that with a system called the Macbook Pro.

[@Emir_helvacioglu]

They should of at least given us 10gb ram and give on upgrade option to 16gb of ram

[@andyH_England]

This is a poor argument as Apple still offers 16GB+ in the MB Pro 14. So your problem is not the lack of RAM, it is that you have to pay £200 more to upgrade to it. Apple says that their 8GB model sell over 60% of total sales of those respective models. Why? Because most people using it have no issues with 8GB. The upgrade fee is another question, nothing to do with whether 8GB is enough, and this misunderstanding leads to an unfair critique. Especially when you factor in that every other ultrabook in Windows-land also starts at 8GB; it becomes more about trolling and flexing on Apple rather than sensible debate.

[@Caonima]

cuz apple so gay

[@Emir_helvacioglu]

@@andyH_EnglandI mean personally I don’t really care about base model of any product bc I look always buy the mid tier model for this example MacBook Pro m3 pro and I’ll pay the extra however much it is cuz I’m going to use it for a long time, also the people don’t understand is that the m3 MacBook Pro is for people that need something more the a MBA and this product is more directed at college student and university not for main stream content creators, don’t get me wrong m3 MacBook Pro can still edit on premiere pro but simple editing not 8k so I don’t really have a problems and people don’t realise Apple is a company to make money

[@andyH_England]

@@Emir_helvacioglu yes, I agree with your sentiments.

[@retrofizz727]

I personally recently bought a used base model air m1. I'm doing some 1080p video editing, and simple photoshop and figma stuff, and it's doing fine. But it's also because I have a gaming pc I can rely on in case there's really something out of the ordinary I have to do. Picking an 8GB model was totally a conscious decision, and I know that in case I need to upgrade, I could just give it to my parents who only do browsing and mailing exclusively, or maybe some Netflix.

[@Tradefy]

Working since 2021 on my M1 mac book air with just 8GB and I couldn't be happier, I don't do too much power intensive stuff, except trading but what I can assure you that if you use your notebook lightly, 8GB is more then enough. In case you do power hungry stuff, I cannot imagine you need more then 16GB and an upgrade to 32GB is probably a waste of money. It really depends on your work and I think its an ego problem if you really have to upgrade the RAM etc and throw your money out of the window. 400USD for 18GB of Ram is insane! The new Macs starting from M1 are amazing machines! For disk space, I would rather buy external drives and cloud bases solutions and if locally needed and speed is the priority, build a PC.

[@NightSkyProduction]

Love those shout outs 😂 Great video explaining RAM needs.

[@DonutAgain]

64gb is good enough for me with two 5k displays vRam shared, another reason is that 64gb has more memory bandwidth than 48gb or 95gb variants.

[@robertdpilgrim1924]

Hey good day I just wanted to know if the M3 8RAM will work well with Serato Pro with stems features for DJs?

[@TheThaiLife]

Thanks for personifying the entire Apple product marketing ladder.

[@jeffcraft4440]

Your channel is great, you describe things I can understand.

[@yayayak]

Came from a windows Asus gaming computer but never gamed, as I use it to produce EDM on FL studio. Got the m3 pro 18 gb with 12 core cpu and my GOD this thing is a beast. Everything runs so smooth with all the multiple plug ins and the heavy cpu orchestral sounds. Added benefit it the battery life/ quietness I can produce anywhere I go.

[@rayr268]

Exactly the model and task I needed to know about, thank you

[@Trvpezoid]

I’m thinking about buying an m3 pro 36gb ram for producing on fl studio and djing, you think I should stick to 18gb ram instead and save me those $400?

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

Great video. Most people can stop watching at around 6:30 as anyone who is even looking at more than 16/18gb of RAM knows it and doesn't really need to watch this. But, fun to watch none the less.

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

All geez. Yeah, I ended up with a Mac Studio with 32gb RAM which is way over board for my use, but it was the same price than a MacBook Pro with double the RAM which will do me for a very very long time. Buy it nice or buy it twice. @@TheLoneCamper

[@StelmachsWorld]

Just got an m3 pro w/ 18gb and 1tb and it is great!. I hardly ever go past 14 gigs even while multitasking with lightroom and premier, safari tabs with youtube and spotify. The only time I encounter yellow memory pressure is when working with 4k footage in after effects, but I haven’t seen any swap so far.

[@janmajnik6889]

max or pro chip?

[@gsdlvr123]

I just bought this same - with the pro chip (assuming that is what yours is...I just need my laptop to do basic stuff, mail, web lookup, excel sheets, you tube and I'd like to send and receive videos to/from customers (I own a horse/sheep farm). I'm hoping I bought enough power.

[@hridgreximp6194]

I constantly have 200+ tabs open in chrome while running Premiere Pro and After Effects and I only have the 16gb model, I have not had many problems in 4 years…

[@conso1023]

I currently have the 2018 MacBook Pro with 8gb of memory. Trying to figure out what’s the best to get. I use illustrator, photoshop, premiere pro and after effect for motion graphics. I also play the fpv simulator to practice flying fpv drone. Most of the time I have either illustrator and after effect open or premiere pro also. What would be the best option for me?

[@TheSonyExperience]

My 16gb M1 Mac mini can even dig into swap just because I forget I have to many excel sheets and safari tabs. I couldn’t imagine 8gbs. Looking forward to upgrading to the M3 pro with 18gb

[@akennedy9367]

I’m thinking of either getting the M3 Pro 16” with 36gb, I want it for some light 4k video editing and photoshop, is 36gb an overkill? Should I just got with the 18gb with 512gb storage? Thanks!!

[@fernandoferraz4146]

Ir its just light work then 18gb Will serve you well

[@fatgezimbela7272]

I am in medical school now, but when I was a data Engineer/Scientist for the US Gov making huge ML/AI models, I worked with streaming data (so over 200GB of changing data, sometimes TB) and easily could have used 128 GB of ram.... I had 64 GB of ram, and I had to run some programs while I was sleeping so they could be done in a reasonable time. To give you a real life use case. When presenting my work to stakeholders with live demos, we usually had to use a subset of the data. but due to the nature of the work and how important it was to be 100% accurate, when really using it, we had to use all of the data.

[@TheMap1997]

Damn, I'm a student graduating soon. Would you recommend a laptop for me on working ML models? I don't mind something expensive

[@fanofmansbestfriend]

Why did you go into medical school from being a data scientist? I'm doing the exact opposite, i'm going from biomedical science into data science. At the moment my laptop specs is M2 max, 12 core CPU, 30 core GPU, 1TB SSD and 64GB RAM. Is this good enough for ML/AI modelling?

[@tacco6384]

Well with jobs like that you can afford to buy a computer that needs that much. For most people your situation isnt the case!

[@timdanyo898]

I just ordered the M3 Pro with 18 cores and 36 gigs of RAM. I feel it's the sweet spot for performance to price value.

[@mareksv1947]

Why you need all that? Making Video games or something?😅

[@johnroberto]

@@mareksv1947 Lightroom! I have the M3 Pro with 18gb of ram and I'm constantly using "Swap" around 3 - 4gb. I'm gonna return it and get the 36gb model.

[@Obikenobi93HD]

@@mareksv1947why always negative about it??

[@mareksv1947]

@@Obikenobi93HD Not negative, just seams like huge waist of money. But maybe it is necessary for him, who knows.

[@joejoe2452]

Isn’t it only upto to 16 cores only?

[@drkmagneto]

Cool video! I’m still researching which Mac I want, what chip, and RAM needed.

[@Doors_of_janua]

Did you decide?

[@drkmagneto]

Since the M4 chip is out now, the M4 MacBook Pro computers can’t be far behind, most likely October/November, just in time for me to get one for Christmas or just before!

[@Doors_of_janua]

@@drkmagneto i have waited since m 1 so have to bite the bullet

[@drkmagneto]

@@Doors_of_janua Theoretically, 5 maybe 6 months from now, give or take a few weeks, the M4 will be out. Sure, you can trade the M3 in on an M4, but why bother? Go for the gold, I say!

[@SatinMediaDetroit]

I have a macbook pro M2 with 24GB & 1TB HDD running FCPX,Motion Pro and Unreal Engine 5 without a hiccup. Love it! Pawn shop find for $700

[@mar_kie]

nice one.. thx bro

[@joe62845]

This was very helpful thank you. I'm debating on upgrading from an 18 gig m3 pro to 36gigs. I personally don't think I'll need it but my friends say I should consider it since I don't plan on replacing this laptop unless it dies or becomes unsupported like my current iMac.

[@TheSmkfts]

If budget is not a problem, then always go one step up than what you think you would need today. I have 32 GB (I thought it will be enough at the time of purchase) and just a few months later I actually fill it up fairly quickly when multitasking. I wish I had gone with 64 GB. RAM is like a glass bottle. You will find yourself filling it up until as much as it can contain.

[@joe62845]

@@TheSmkfts Thanks for tip! I did end up with the 36 gig. I agree I feel like I'll end up needing it. My work macbook pro has 16 gigs and there have been a few times where it wasn't enough.

[@danzambrana]

@@joe62845how is it holding up right now? on the verge of getting a m3 pro with 1 tb and 36 gb of ram i do heavy work for 400 dollars i could get the mad but its too much and i need it urgently

[@oakacc952]

I'm also living the same dilemma: 18gb x 36gb 😭 My current job is pretty much web browsing and with my zephyrus g14 2022 model (I know, Windows) 60-80% of my 16gb are normally used. In a very near future I'll start coding and - with a macbook in mind - my main fear is to run out of ram in a non upgradeable device.

[@TheSmkfts]

@@oakacc952 Go with 36GB for sure. You won’t regret it.

[@DanRichter]

Just ordered the M3 Max 128gb 16”. I’m upgrading from a 2013, which was finally starting to show its age. That’s how long I make these last, which is why I maxed it out.

[@Nimariel]

I have an M2 Pro w 32GB of RAM. I’ve run Parallels, Topaz, etc and so far barely topped 50% usage.

[@MrPoliarinis]

32 not 36

[@thebrayns]

I use Mainstage and Ableton at the same time to run virtual instruments in live music performance and running tracks at the same time in which I'd run many instances of very heavy sample based instruments in Mainstage to the point where I use to use up my 16 gigabytes of ram years ago so fast that it'd crash often, I upgraded to the i9 with 6 cores of 32gb of ram, after around 5 years I've started using up all 32 gigs and often do have issues with CPU overloads with audio dropouts using up pretty much all the memory, therefore, in the search for an upgrade I come to be torn between the m3 max with 14 cores and 96 gb of ram or 16 cores with either 64gb of ram or 128 because of my exponential usage of RAM with mixing and mastering projects with over 100 tracks per session of recorded tracks of up to 30 gb of length between each track, with a lot of virtual instruments, and video editing, and occasional streaming. Any thoughts or comments on my situation?

[@prodsk8miles]

intel is trash in 2024 And no, it’s not all about the RAM, the processor is important too. I recommend going for 64GB, and believe me, it will work well. I also use Ableton and several Kontakt libraries, and I have no problems with only 18GB of RAM in my M3 Pro. If you have the money, the more RAM the better; you’ll have a capable machine that will last a long time.

[@thezmanz28]

The old memory swap. In theory yes I say this makes sense. For 99.999999% of users will never have an issue with this as far as damaging you SD or ram.

[@ronlo8498]

What is your opinion on a MBP M3 Chip 8-ccpu 10-cGPU and 24 GB of unified memory to run a VM for just basic windows excel ect? Thank you for your response 🎉

[@TheSimMan]

I use Adobe Photoshop and technically the most advanced interaction I’ll have with it is Perspective warping and some general edits to make my work cleaner and crisper. I also intend to use After Effects for some relatively basic video work; multi-slide complications featuring panning video clips, some light transitional effects, nothing huge. While I intend to get the M3 Max chip, should I get 36GB (which I think will future proof me for what I do) or spend the $$$ and get 48GB??? Any advice would be appreciated. I haven’t bought a MacBook Pro since I was gifted one in 2009!!

[@Quirkiest]

I’m sorry that advice is waaaay too vague. Basically “buy lots of RAM on your M3 MacBook…if you think you need it”…Seriously? I think you guys need to do some more homework (benchmarking) before you release a video claiming to have the answers.

[@yuri.moiseyev]

you're right. This video is useless.

[@Teluric2]

Benchmarking doesnt test video encoding, dunning kruger spotted

[@asafrevivim]

Plus, he forgot to talk and show the most important issue we all have when it comes to ram: million browser tabs open..

[@arozendojr]

Do you know how you can clear swap without turning off your MacBook? On Linux it was swapoff -a ; swapon -a

[@smile.vfx7]

what about after effects on 4k projects with a bunch of effects 36gb ram is enough?

[@bravolatavera3647]

Hello. whats your eye glasses frameless brand

[@Justin-ww8xk]

I just bought a 14inch M3 Pro 12C/18C GPU, 18GB Ram, 1TB. Thinking about returning it for the exact spec except opting for the 36GB Ram. Can’t decide.

[@prabeeshsidhu]

What did you decide on

[@redfox05nl]

@Justin-ww8xk I had the same dillema. My old Intel one had 16GB, and Phpstorm always complained, and I was deciding between M3 Pro base 18GB and 36GB, but I think M3 Pro 36GB with 1TB is the right choice, even with the unified memory being faster already, its more future proof. And you never know what your needs will be in the future. Software Dev using VM's.

[@ssdwob]

Hello, I would like to use Parallel desktop on mac. How many GB ram do you advise in the MBP-M3 PRO. I would like to buy MBP next year, and i dont know how many GB rams to buy. THX a lot!

[@saturnotaku]

I have the 12 CPU/18 GPU/18 GB M3 Pro 14, and it has no problems running a standard Windows 11 ARM configuration in Parallels, which is 4 CPU cores and 6 GB of RAM with up to 3 GB for graphics. If you need anything more or are running multiple VM instances, then you should upgrade the RAM.

[@omarmansour4250]

@@saturnotakuso if i make ios development what will u recommend for me Macbook pro m3 24 gb ram or m3 pro 18 rab?

[@sdx15]

Can i edit 4k video in davinci resolve, right now using m1 air and it struggles alot in 4k editing

[@0LucasP]

Hi guys, i have an Imac 27, i9 10c. 128ram at 2111mhz, ssd1tb and i wish switch dor mobility, can someone tell me what macbookk shoud be similar with thats specs ?

[@cristianRE00]

So for complex 3d modeling and some rendering related. It’s better an m3 max 14/30 96ram or the m3 max 16/40 64ram? (around 5k budget)

[@MrMoto655]

If you have an external monitor and don’t need it on the go, I would spring for the 14 inch with 96 gigs of ram but if you do need it on the go most of the time and you think you’ll be unhappy with 14 inches then go for the 16 inch but I’d ask myself what I want more, 2 more inches of screen or 32 extra gigs of ram? Personally I’d say go for the 14 inch and get a 2k or 4k external monitor. If you’re dropping 5 grand on (what I assume is) your main workstation, an extra 500 is nothing.

[@toddmaek5436]

I just got my school macbook. and it is the M3 Pro with 18 gb

[@georgeantoniadis_6515]

I have the MacBook 2023 M3 chip 16GB of Ram 8 core CPU and 10 core GPU and I'm honestly impressed (Coming from a MacBook Air 2020 intel model)

[@noneofyourbusiness5626]

Thank you doing this video Who is the guy keeping you in check? OMGosh hilarious. I have to keep stopping to listen over because you get excited and talk quicker and quicker hee hee You remind me of one of those wind up torches, the more, you wind it, the higher, the brightness, but in your case, it’s talking about Apple MacBook Pro ❤

[@tld8102]

I have maxed out over 64GB of ram on my PC before. just once. i was 3d modelling on solidworks. it was not a fun time always on the fear of the system crashing loosing my work.

[@andredz4841]

For edit 600mb fx3 video , 36gb it's nice?

[@AC-lt5ro]

I own a 1st gen 2020 M1 MacBook pro 13" non "pro chip" as they weren't available at the time. One critical point most reviewers miss is the fact anything non pro only supports one external display.

[@stephandzachalletson]

M3 (non-pro) now supports 2 displays. In the MacBook Air unfortunately it’s only with the lid closed but it does work.

[@joshr961]

Oddly enough my new MacBook Air 3 days old. Is consuming 14gb of ram and has 1gb of swap used just opening safari tabs. No more than 20 tabs. I find it interesting they will use everything possible. But it’s very snappy and I love it. Thought about a 32gb m1 or m2 pro instead but think I’m gonna rock with my 15in m3 air.

[@alexblankenship7385]

I wish I could get the 48gb ram with the 12c M3 Pro configuration.

[@That_IT_Trainer]

I took my m2 MacBook Air with 16 gb and 512gb. The 256 gb would have been a mistake because it’s slower.For my work I also need windows 11 so I use parallels. It’s a dream to run. But with 8gb you would not get the same performance because of excessive swapping. In other words if you do anything else besides the regular user tasks take more memory

[@Fridu54]

I use always around 50 GB Ram as I run a virtual Windows 11 machine and a virtual Linux Machine on my MacBook. For this I have the Max with 128 GB Ram, so it never swaps.

[@thomashartmann5037]

It would be nice to know what you actually use your Mac for and in which situations the available amount of RAM is critical.

[@redfox05nl]

Dang! 128GB! And I was deciding between 18GB and 36GB. haha.

[@ecomwithTrevor]

You need at least 128gb, because of Chrome. Wish they made a 1TB ram option soon.

[@llennxp90]

Which MacBook Pro is recommended to make videos like this?

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

For folks running LLMs, VMs, along with heavy video and 3D work...it feels like 64 GB is the minimum, which unfortunately is *only* available on the top spec M3 Max chip. I wish Apple gave us the Max-30c with 64 GB as an option. The 96 GB is way too expensive of an upgrade.

[@mariotahtouh3031]

Which MacBook is more performant for video editing: MacBook Pro 13” M2, CPU 8-core, GPU 10-core, but with 24 GB unified memory, or MacBook Pro 14” M3 Pro, CPU 12-core, GPU 18-core, and only 18 GB unified memory? Thank you in advance!

[@megyalilaballad]

I like your RAM videos, man; but, please, timestamp the chapters in your videos. It facilitates getting to the main points or going back to review and knowing where your ads are.

[@jonathanholmes9219]

LLMs need a LOT of RAM. If you want to do inference on bigger models you need the RAM.

[@hardchemist]

I buy a high-end Apple laptop once per decade initially as a desktop replacement (which is what Apple silicon has given us in these MacBook Pros), then mid cycle (at the 5 year mark) a newer technology desktop will enter into the equation. Rinse and repeat, or at least that's how it's been for the past 3 decades, more or less on this end. Just got an Apple refurbished store (plus military discount) for a 14" M2 Max with the GPU bump, 64GB and 4TB. Saved $1500 just through the two discount mechanisms. Talk to you again in 2033.

[@yuri.moiseyev]

How much did you pay then?

[@hardchemist]

@@yuri.moiseyev $3590 plus tax

[@hamedizzy5137]

lol I just ordered a 128Gb version with 4TB storage. I don’t need it at all but having it makes me feel like a pro 🤣 yes I’m one of those guys

[@billx4266]

cool story bro

[@robert29ti]

you got scammed, it's people like you who keep this garbage company going

[@NetvoTV]

Would you hire me as a freelancer to help you out with something the ? I need some cash to get back on track in life and need a new MacBook Pro to replace my 2012 MacBook Pro

[@David_Dauncey]

Would 18gb ram be enough for music recording and light video editing?

[@flyguy6951]

for me, davinci resolve takes like 8gb worth of my 8 gigs unified. idk if this helps or not

[@tomscott88]

I’m a graphics designer and using photoshop illustrator indesign, lightroom and general productivity. Photoshop can use 16gbs easily in my experience. I smash 64gb on the daily and get ram low errors through istat menu all the time. So ye “I can’t think of anyone” who could use 96, I could saturate that with my workflows. If you’re a pro using your machine everyday you don’t shut programmes down because it takes time to get back to where you were. I don’t think I’m in the 5% but ram is ram and the more you have the more the system will use. Kind of sick of hearing this advice from apparent people who “know” what others need.

[@rdl1384]

Finally someone speaking pure truth! Same here man

[@kode3]

With a few Chrome tabs, Messages, Mail, and Spotify bumping leads to my base M3 Max to use over 22gb according to Activity Monitor. Happy I went with at least 36gb although the Max chip is overkill for me, I bought refurbished and saved some money.

[@martinrandyd]

I have a M1 Pro with 16gb. From a restart it is using about 9gb before I open any apps. I can hit 16gb with just some tabs open in Safari open. I have run out of ram a few times trying to create a doc in Canva. No way I would do less than 48gb when I upgrade.

[@joseteixeira5900]

But there is one more thing :D M3 architecture is way more different than the previous ones, and in one thing M3 is different than M3 pro, the choose of 18 and 48GB is because of amount number channels available. Do not paying attention of amount of ram itself, the memory channels ai its plays on memory bus as well. Valid for M3 max as well.

[@otozinclus3593]

Memory bandwidth and capacity have little to do with each other

[@Elsebas29]

People forget that there are other ram consuming tasks that video/music/photo editing

[@MikeFuryTech]

In memory databases use a ton of RAM. Far more than what's available on the Mac. A small deployment would use 768GB RAM, but it can go MUCH higher. What's an in-memory database used for? Real-time analytics mostly.

[@LongHornTexas]

8:51 What you smokin’?? Apple doesn’t give any free RAM upgrade. $300 is for the M3 Max upgrade to 16 cpu/40 gpu alone. However, that selection forcibly upgrades RAM to 48 gb, but this is not free either. It adds another $200 RAM fee to the total price. In effect, $500 more for the 16 cpu/40 gpu model.

[@Guironey]

thxxxx

[@JustAPersonWhoComments]

1:28 That's what I was thinking too. But for those who just use it for watching videos or doing note taking, this is a decent price for MacBook users, if u want to game on it, I don't think it may handle well with intensive graphics

[@1nvd]

Thanks for you input. I will aim for 18gigs but if there’s a better deal refurbished for 36 gigs I will aim for that

[@CelestialMage.]

I love how you explained RAM😊

[@TheMezaFamily]

I hope I get a response before this day gets started. I bought the 14inch MacBookPro M3Max with the following specs! 14 Core CPU, 30 Core GPU, 36GB of unified memory. I believe = max 300GB/‘s memory bandwidth. My question is this.,. I will ONLY use this laptop for editing 1080p and some 4k files (drone footage) maybe some 4k DSLR footage as well with a lot of 3rd party plug in’s for Final Cut Pro X like Titles, Generators, Effects and transitioning etc… should I return this product and upgrade to 64 GB of unified memory with 16 core CPU and 40core GPU? Which by the way would = Max 400GB/s memory bandwidth! OH and does 14” vs 16” make a difference with the same exact specs? Thank you in advance.

[@daanielllllllllll]

what did you do ?

[@TheMezaFamily]

@@daanielllllllllll I went ahead and bought a Mac Studio Ultra

[@daanielllllllllll]

@@TheMezaFamily did you find the m3 max to be insufficient ? I use heavy editing programs and 3d as well as DAWs I was thinking of getting the M3 you mentioned but I feel it won’t be enough So I’m maxing it to 96 gb I need a laptop as I move a lot and Im based on the apple ecosystem so getting a windows is not an option let alone building a PC What would you advise.

[@TheMezaFamily]

honestly I just kept the MacBook Pro as well... Since I take trips and sometimes I like to edit on the go as well. But it seems pretty slow compared to the Mac Studio Ultra... I mean, the desk top for some reason always seem faster. I threw everything I will possible I would do in an edit to test it, and it passed with no issues. As for the MacBook Pro I tried to do the same and it starts to get really noisy and hot. it still gets the job done BUT not as fast as the Mac Studio. So I'll just use the MacBook Pro for short edits and not too many transition etc. @@daanielllllllllll

[@jameysummers1577]

I got my wife an 8gb M2 Macbook Pro. She only uses her Macbook as an internet machine, to write papers for her doctorate classes,and prepare work for the classes that she teaches in high school. Zoom also. It's still considered light use. Her Macbook does use file swap. It's bullshit that 8GB is enough RAM. Total bullshit.

[@raw_pc]

128GB is the way to go if you are a graphic designer/3d modeler who is working in blender3d, photoshop, illustrator + windows in VM (Parallels) to run something like 3dsmax at the same time. I know because I'm one of those people. Multiple projects opened daily. Also 2x 4K monitors help a lot in this workflow but require additional resources. So yeah, if you can afford it and need it go for as much RAM as you can. You won't be able to upgrade later so choose wisely.

[@laxbeach2381]

Honestly though if I were a true “MAC”, power user, I wouldn’t be buying the regular M chip to begin with. MAX to ULTRA is where I’d see heavy users going. The M with 8 GB is ok, as pointed out, it’s just the unit has the wrong model name. In that case, I’d see more M2 Airs selling in similar spec. I got my first MAC in 2010, it was a 2010 MacBook Pro. Back then, it was easier to distinguish between regular and Pro. Their other lineups kind of do that. Why not bring that same approach back to MAC?

[@g1pu804]

Should I get 48 or 64? Im a video editer, business owner, and a daytrader. I don't know if I should get 64gb of ram because I feel like that's too much, but I dont wanna regret it later down the line, and i really dont wanna upgrade either. This is for the m3 max 16 core, btw.

[@MadScientist7]

I was under the impression you would explain on more technical terms how mac’s use ram

[@thomashartmann5037]

Why is that important? For me it is more crucial to know in which situations you will run out of RAM so the computer starts to use SWAP memory from the SSD, which will slow down the performance and also shorten the lifespan of the SSD.

[@andyH_England]

@@thomashartmann5037 "which will slow down the performance and shorten the lifespan of the SSD." This is a fallacy. Swap initially uses the MLC (dRAM) part of the SSD, which totals 2 modules X 2GB (512GB models). So an 8GB machine will have effectively 12GB of superfast swap. Add in compression and you are nearer 14GB usable before you need to touch the SSD flash memory. Anyone buying an 8GB machine and using more than 14GB of RAM have only themselves to blame as clearly they should have used common sense and bought the 16GB version.

[@thomashartmann5037]

@@andyH_England Thanks for your reply. Good info about the ins and out with SWAP files. My info is based on what other says in the matter, but I’m sure you are correct. Still you haven’t answered my question about why a more technical description would be beneficial, other than to verify if he really knows what he talks about. When it comes to how much memory you need, it all depends on what usage situation you have. Unfortunately most KZbinrs compares render and export times in video production, which could be important for some people. In our case working in Marketing with MS Office and Google Workspace files and doing some lighter video edits in Camtasia, CapCut, CreateStudio, it’s more important to avoid stutter and frozen documents.

[@fr3ddy1461]

Apple made it in a way where you say “might as well upgrade” M3 Pro with 1 TB of storage is the same price as the base 16 inch, which you can upgrade the SSD for just $100 more…

[@LeicaM11]

I am not a profi and my Mac Studio with 32GB RAM often needs to swap. I am recoding videos, stabilizing videos and attending 24/7 gridcomputing.😊 Right now, with UTM, I need to care much more.

[@abdulrahmanmustafa455]

Swap does not mean that the memory is full. Swap is a an OS decision. Sometimes you will notice 40% of the RAM is not used but there are 5 GB is swapped. it is more about to be safe when unpredictable workflow you are going to use. so do not panic until you see the memory pressure is yellow then red.

[@ducinguyen5510]

Where do i see when it swaps?

[@tamsaiming2003]

I wanna mention sth. else. It takes a lot of vram (not ram) for stable diffusion and machine learning optimisation, unless Apple debuts its own ml app. So, it is not much helping to talk about adding ram in this scenario

[@Tigerex966]

Many intel makes are still beast years later.

[@robertYoutub]

RAM is a problem, as shared Memory support is still weak. Meaning, if you got 18 GB, you 9 for CPU and 9 for GPU. Which is extremely low. Also the memory is super expensive. Same for SSD. Apple is doing it wrong, when selling Pro Laptops, that suddenly run out of memory because you didn’t wanted to pay the additional 400 for a RAM that would have cost a fraction of it. Apple driving us into a huge expensive experiment.

[@gr4zuoliuk4s]

@justjosh already explained about the ram in depth for macbooks, where it clearly says, 16gb myst be a minimum for everyone. Whatever you do with that piece of electronics. In addition if you short with money, why do you even look at apple (;

[@macbuff81]

I upgraded my old 2013 trash can MacPro to 128 gigs of RAM. Runs like a champ now despite it being over a decade old and the memory only being DDR3 at 1066Mhz. Still faster than a swap file on an HDD or SSD. It originally shipped with 12 which was already a joke back in 2013. Apple's pricing strategy is nothing short of extortion. Let's be honest here. The whole point of it is to push consumers to opt for a higher end machine which costs more.

[@LordBagdanoff]

Do you think the base model M3 pro specs 11 core cpu is good enough for normal usage and video editing?

[@MongooseOwen]

As someone who has just bought a 16 inch MacBook Pro I have been using windows all my life. I have never had it crash or had any of the problems people in the comments are saying. I bet most people bought a $350 Windows laptop and hated it then tried a Apple laptop for $1500 and comparing the 2 experiences. Considering 90% of businesses use windows you would expect the world economy to collapse if it was as bad as you are all saying. Can’t even use MacOS out of the box without it driving me crazy (rectangle app a must). The quicker you stop blindly following apple the harder they will have to work to sell you products and everyone wins. Believe me if everyone boycotted the MacBook for a year the next MacBook you will see would be the greatest thing ever made.

[@AlexPRO_TM]

Oh man, just shut up ... Most Mac users for pro tasks used Windows PCs in the past, and a minimum of them want to dive into this shit again. Stop posting comments after slight use.

[@Waltaere]

Arthuuur 😃

[@Tigerex966]

Audio editing can definitely use 196 gb ram.

[@NOCHILLPHIL]

So I am looking at the 16 inch M3 pro I am trading in my M1 air because it was good value but med school demands more ram at this point. I am little torn. Should I get the base 16 inch M3 pro or upgrade it the ram from 18 gbs to 36 gbs of ram or should I opt for more storage to 1 TB storage or neither and just stick to the basics

[@npc2k]

Ignore the storage as you can get external ssd. 36gb is only if you are a developer or frequently editing videos. Otherwise 18gb is fine

[@jochenretter]

So you are telling me I should buy more RAM if I need to? Now I feel smart.

[@txLALA]

I could only get 36gb RAM on my max pro because that’s the most Amazon had. So far it seems good enough though. I just wanted something that’d last at least 5 years, and hopefully longer.

[@moreofsandro]

is the m3 max with 36gigs enough for Videoediting?

[@hbualnkner]

I believe so. A video editing program that I recently applied to says at least 18gb minimum. Once again, 18gb on the light side. Probably 36gb for extensive work.

[@gerald1964]

Right now, on my 2019 i9 iMac with 40 GB of RAM is using 23 GB of RAM with no special productivity apps open. Interestingly, apps like Mail seem to take up more memory as time goes on until I close down the app and open it up again. It seems like RAM is not properly being deallocated in some apps. Upon reboot, somewhere between 7 to 12 GB of RAM will be in use but it grows from there. It seems that someone that uses the machine for pro like activities really want to upgrade the RAM. Folks who work in ML and data science seem to want at least 64 GB of RAM.

[@tonyscaminaci7959]

MacOS likes to keep everything in ram, even after you close a program, just in case you decide to reopen it. It’s difficult to judge whether increasing memory usage over time is a result of memory leakage or by design. The OS knows what it’s doing but users don’t necessarily know or understand how it allocates and deallocates memory. The most important takeaway from this video is that the more ram you have, the less swapping to the SSD will be necessary. This is extremely important for longevity since the SSD is not replaceable so more ram means less wear and tear on the SSD. Great video Arthur!

[@nathanhassani5366]

well put together video, but I can't agree that 16gigs is enough for anything, minus anything very intensive. ive had my m1 MacBook Pro with 16c gpu and 16 gigs of ram for 6 months now, trying to edit 4k footage from my mavic 3 in Final Cut Pro, and I get constant beach balls (literally two effects added ) no other programs open, codecs are all apple codecs, nothing from windows etc...did I just get a lemon...ram usage never goes into the yellow or red area when I monitor it...idk.

[@KC-lg8qf]

Ram is more important that the processor for me at this point. Apple isn't making any bad processors..... There's no longer a reason to prioritize the processor first IMO. Ram bandwidth is also something that has become important..... I think the top bandwidth is only available with the Max chips sadly. For M3

[@andyH_England]

They reduced the bandwidth due to using 6GB RAM modules rather than 4GB RAM modules. So each module has 50Gbps bandwidth, so 50Gbps multiplied by three modules means you now only need 150Gbps rather than 200Gbps with four modules (4X4GB=4X50Gbps in the M2). Why include 200Gbps if the max it will ever use is 150Gbps?

[@KC-lg8qf]

@@andyH_England well I'm no expert but I have seen the M3 pro chip underperform the M2 pro chip in certain instances (in reviews). It was theorized that the bandwidth could be the reason.

[@andyH_England]

@@KC-lg8qf more recent tests show they were false and it was just the lack of optimisation that affected those early results. Watch more recent tests that disprove that.

[@KC-lg8qf]

@amfrepo ok i will have to do that. Lack of optimization in the software?

[@thomassss88]

What about m3 16gb. Does it have 4x4gb with 50gbps. Should that be 200gbps bandwith?

[@Dry_cream]

I'm using Aftereffects (mainly making 2D motion graphics) and considering studying C4D. What would you guys recommend? MacPro14" M3 pro 18GB vs MacPro14" M3 pro 36GB

[@Mekaniii]

Get 32gb, I am doing after effects with 16gb of ram M2 pro, it works really well, but when it comes to some advanced projects and 4k video editing in premiere pro, it is really laggy sometimes. So I would recommend anyone 32gb of ram for advanced video editing.

[@Dream99972]

@@Mekaniiihey i will also go with 32gb ram mackbook pro but with m4 will that be good for video editing 4k ill use premium pro after effects davinchi resolve photoshop ?

[@Mekaniii]

@@Dream99972 im currently using M3 Max 48gb ram, im ussing after effects and premiere pro, premiere pro is working really well, but even with 48gb of ram in AE I have encountered situations where my computer used 60-65gb of ram (swap) so from my current experience for advanced projects in AE I would recommend at least 48gb of ram with a sweet spot to never get into trouble at 64gb of ram. Of course, it all depends on the level you are editing at, but I would always in the future take at least 64gb of ram so I never get in trouble with missing ram. For 95% of editors out there 32gb of ram on a Mac will do the work. So If you want to get future proof lap top and you in the future want your editing on a higher level I would recommend going with 64gb or at least 48gb. For me update from 48 to 64 was only $200 but I didnt get it because there was a 15 day waiting period for the upgraded version and I needed to leave the USA in the next 5-10 days so I had to buy it ASAP, I hope those 5 days will not cost me some trouble in the future 🙂

[@WadedaMinute]

Which is the best ram and m3 max for aaa gaming and is it worth 1 or 2tb ssd?

[@Ribbuns]

Gaming???? Triple A gaming?????

[@WadedaMinute]

@@Ribbuns I wanna play spider man and saints row

[@WadedaMinute]

@@Ribbuns yes as I just ordered Spider-Man and the new Mac should have ray tracing and better for gaming

[@Ribbuns]

@@WadedaMinute barely anyone optimizes their games for macOS, the only way I’d reliably game on my Mac is either with Minecraft or cloud gaming

[@WadedaMinute]

Has it been tested and what set up to use to play this and saint row?

[@dnlxl]

nah I do worry and as soon as you said that I had to switch to a different video

[@Juan-ws9sy]

This is just escalating to the most expensive one which is what already happens when I go on the apple store site

[@shawarma3066]

Some people just want a pro macbook but don't need the pro power. For example, me! I went ahead and bought a macbook pro m3 base model because I wanted the pro display, the pro speakers (which I use a shit tone), and a little bit more powerful of a chip. I also wanted a better battery life (as the m3 base model pro has the best battery ever in any macbook)

[@notwin69]

Atleast make us bye the 8gigs and upgrade option later even sell their own rams to change

[@WujoFefer]

I'm using M1Max with 64GB ram and... most of the time ram usage is around 45-55GB. This 48-64GB is nice for developers, especially those who are using simulators or VM. For some cases even those 96 or 128 would be useful especially for AI. Maybe I'm using it for 10-12h a day and I really need a lot of memory but I'm think that if you are user who don't like to buy new machine every year or even 2-3 year but you are like me and you are changing your workstation every 4-5 yer, you need a lot of memory to be futureproof. Think how much memory you need right now, double it and be happy for next 4-5 maybe even more years.

[@no_life_wth_leafras949]

you should have taken 256 gb bro, 64 is None

[@dreamyo5846]

im confused my mac has 18 gigs of ram and 18 cores and 1TB its a M3 why does everyone else have 16...

[@hollows5508]

More than likely someone chose the base $1600 8gb MacBook Pro and opted for the 16gb configuration for $200 on Apples website.

[@videofrat3115]

8:15, you will need it to run some Ollama AI models, unfortunately

[@pitbull4christ]

I currently have a 14 inch M1 Max MBP with 2tb SSD and 32gb ram. I’m gonna buy a 16 inch MacBook Pro with 8TB SSD, 128GB of RAM.