How Much Slower Is Using Assists On F1 2021?

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[@mohamaads]

Jarno gets world record Also jarno: “it’s not a perfect lap”

[@xvmichele_vx7911]

“That’s not ideal”

[@lunasilvermoon2283]

That is the right mentality though. You hear F1 drivers all the time saying things like ''it's never perfect, can always try improve here or there'' . never satisfied.

[@whitewolf8051]

Because it wasn't. Just because it's world record doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement lol

[@azhariharris2768]

Mamba mentality😈😈😈😈

[@charonder]

@@azhariharris2768 he has an MA and an MBA

[@anshumanazad836]

How are you so calm even after just setting the world record? Edit: Guys I didnt know that this times got deleted after the update. Sry abt that.

[@xvmichele_vx7911]

He’s the esport champ, how can he ever get excited for a simply world record?

[@chrismdb5686]

The game is still new, it'll keep coming down as drivers get quicker, better setups, etc.

[@jojaspero4636]

@@chrismdb5686 And I believe the times got deleted after last update

[@zenvious5645]

@Justin Y The Robber well it is an achievement for everyone but esports drivers

[@axiis1301]

times recently got deleted because of the update

[@Vagabound]

That´s cool to see in a clear lap. But it would be interesting to see how the assists effect the overtaking process. Early breaks from the brake assist wouldn´t help much I guess.

[@ladyxxmacbeth]

You have to adjust your options for overtaking when on full assists. Trust me I know.

[@ahmedalkhatibii353]

"not a perfect lap but good enough for a world record" says jarno opmeer with a straight face

[@pizzadriver]

all time trial times got deleted a few days ago when portimao released & cars got slower

[@ahmedalkhatibii353]

@@pizzadriver its not about what he did its how he reacted that just amazes me.

[@proHannuTorrekens]

Bro, I died

[@Sigman99]

Here is jarno beating the world record casually for a video

[@casimircarothers7388]

Not a great lap pretty solid but it’s enough for a world record

[@dudomagyula9261]

@@casimircarothers7388 wanna see you do better

[@matthewreed1764]

@@dudomagyula9261 if you watched and listened to the video thats what Jarno said

[@dudomagyula9261]

@@matthewreed1764 still he should shut the fuck up

[@pizzadriver]

all time trial times got deleted a few days ago when portimao released & cars got slower

[@jadensroblox185]

Jarno: how much slower if i turn on assist? Me: how much faster if i turn on assist?

[@joerivanderkamp7280]

Same 😂😂😂😂

[@uzumaki_uvindu7036]

Same man

[@rxjerseydesigner]

Same

[@Tobyw208]

“Not a perfect lap” 2:23 After he literally sets a world record.

[@pizzadriver]

all time trial times got deleted a few days ago when portimao released & cars got slower

[@tommy_dark2520]

@@pizzadriver yes but he did it last year too. Pretty normal for an esports WC

[@Giovannixx97]

As a racing line user it'd be really interesting to see you drive with it, probably gonna be bright red each corner

[@juan3450]

Why?

[@Giovannixx97]

@@juan3450 I base my braking points, minimum speed and ideal trajectory on the racing line, if I see Jarno use it I'll see part of why he's so fast

[@EL1TESHARK]

i’m with ya mate. i have to have lines on for corners in any racing game. so much easier to pick your braking,turn in, and apex

[@revirdkcalb]

I asked him this last year as well. He seems to think it wouldn't make a difference, but I'm pretty certain he would ve significantly slower if he uses the racing line. Probably somwhere between 0.3 and 0.6 seconds slower.

[@xeuxis8892]

@@revirdkcalb if he turns it on he probably would just ignore it though. He’ll take his normal lines using his normal reference points

[@FG-vp6id]

Can we just talk about the fact that he is only 0.001 seconds faster than 2nd place? 2nd placa must be so mad...

[@MioClettborn]

Not a perfect lap though😂 jarno could milk some more time from that lap

[@MihaiKrieger]

Learning to drive without assists was the best thing I've done in an F1 game. Not because it has improved my performance, but the level of fun and satisfaction I get from it beats anything assists could offer. And I've never even tried any of the assists at all. It took me 50 hours to learn, but man once I could pull a whole race, or even a whole lap without spinning, then I had the feeling I learnt a new skill.

[@juan3450]

Did you start with a wheel or controller?

[@MihaiKrieger]

@@juan3450 wheel from the beginning.

[@Simopssss]

@@MihaiKrieger So true! 👍

[@MitchWebb94]

I would definitely do this with a wheel, unfortunately I don’t have the space for such a setup and I really struggle to modulate the throttle/brakes with triggers (so need to use medium TC) - I also use the racing line but hope to turn this off in time

[@martimalloldescarrega4806]

i'm going step by step and i'm starting with no abs, i feel exactly the same when i complete a lap without a single lockup

[@hoeppelinho]

"not a perfect lap, but good enough for the world record" might be the Jarno´est thing i´ve heard here xd

[@Giorgos185]

Jarno: "I can't drive with ABS" Me: "I can't drive without ABS" 😭

[@gpetrakhs]

at the start it's a pain in the ass, but if you practice in 2-3 hours you will see major improvement. Do some research about trailbraking

[@oofer1278]

same

[@Linus-tz2tk]

​@@gpetrakhsBut how many people have 2-3 houres per day to play videogames when they still need to work and have a live?

[@gpetrakhs]

@@Linus-tz2tk i don't mean 2 hours a day. I mean a single session of 2 hours and you'll see the improvement I'm talking about

[@rickran35]

As a racing line user I think it would be cool if u turn it on and on the first run follow it, breaking where it says etc. Then next run do ur usual lines and breaking points.

[@jorgesinfitele]

Same for me! I Disabled all other assists, but the breaking points look the hardest to get used to. Even more to be consistent...

[@Ibrfatboi]

@@jorgesinfitele the way I do it is use the line and pay attention to where it shows the braking and find a marker in that spot then turn the line off and try to brake at that point. It takes a while to learn each track but stick with it and its very satisfying to finally get it

[@Sam-ls7xd]

Marcel Kiefer did a video on this u Seouls check it ngl

[@jessemorrenhof6892]

When it’s not a perfect lap for jarno but a world record

[@hiddeemmen]

Imagine training for weeks to get the world record on Mexico and then Jarno comes by and breaks it in 2 laps

[@brtt_win4714]

And u think he didnt train in this track

[@Amonieyt]

I turned off everything a few days ago. Switching to manual shifting was definitly the best change because my Williams in Career Mode without TC and auto shifting on mediums or hards is so unstable to drive and the slightest mistake spins you. Short shifting is just so much better to prevent spinning. The race starts are by far the weirdest thing because the auto shift stays in first gear up to like 120 KPH, while you could be already in second or third.

[@konradandrag845]

Portimao turn 8 has entered the chat

[@akhil5533]

You use controller?

[@jackloftus]

I’ve always wanted to turn off all assists but I struggle with manual shifting too much. I’m on controller and I found it too hard to press so many buttons while focusing on the road. Does anyone know any strategies to help with this problem

[@Ajs1777]

@@jackloftus i mean im also on controller, but you can get a controller w paddles on the back which might make it easier

[@jackloftus]

@@Ajs1777 I probably only have about 20 hours on the f1 games in total, so maybe with more experience it will become easier as well

[@marcokreutner1060]

You should try full traction control, abs and automatic gears as this is probably the most common setting.

[@jamesprinceton3817]

Mate, try medium. It’s relatively easy not to spin but much quicker. Even with full traction control I noticed you spin in the same corners as with medium. Medium is definitely good even as a beginner.

[@wildwilco]

Could you possibly make a video on how much difference there is between wheels? How much time you lose on a logitech g29/923/920 compared to the thrustmaster or fanatec, maybe even get someone in on controller to compare grip levels out of corners. I have personally noticed a massive difference between cheap logitech wheel vs expensive fanatec. And even controller seems to have a grip advantage out of slow corners.

[@danielson7723]

I see hundreds of videos a day, But i only truly enjoy watching Jarno

[@jasperscorematchtips]

Jarno gets wr Jarno: not a perfect lap

[@MrStereotypicalAsian]

A lap with all assists on: FLAT AROUND HERE FLAT AROUND HERE FLAT AROUND HERE

[@lilazzmudder_48fan6]

Are we not gonna mention how he got the record by 1 hundredths of a second?

[@Glitch315]

1 Thousandths*

[@_tgibbo8665]

Hey Jarno, what seating position are you in for your rig? Like is it more like a GT style, Formula style or a hybrid?

[@worbell656]

Been waiting for the other version of this. Was curious with the handling

[@joserico8449]

Jarno you could test the dynamic racing Lane and see how slower It is compared to the racing lanes you use normaly

[@Brad_Black]

“Luke, this is James”

[@snjfrahm]

Jarno: Literally breaking a world record most people would never be able to make Also Jarno “meh it’s not a perfect lap” lol

[@Tara-B-Jackson]

Love this video, I remember the one that was done for the 2020 game. 2021 vs 2020 figures: Braking assist High: +2.4 / +3.7 Braking assist Medium: +1.2 / +2.0 Braking assist Low: +0.5 / +1.0 ABS: +0.1 (-0.1) / +0.3 (0) TC Full: +1.7 / +1.5 TC Medium: +0.7 / +0.7 Automatic Gears: +0.7 / +0.4 All assists: +2.6 / +4.8 I think breaking assist should be removed, even as a complete noob to the game I turned that off after 1st trying it lol. According to your stats the assists I use I should be around 1.4 seconds slower plus I am using a controller from the mid 2000's and I am a good 3 to 4 seconds slower. :D I honestly thought using manual gears would be quite a bit quicker than auto gears. I would love to see the comparisons done again but on a wet track. :)

[@hridaymistry3733]

Do you feel any difference with the new update in the handling of the car?

[@spongy7x]

I don't think it's about speed, but about consistency. Yeah, you might be 0.4s slower a lap with TC but spinning/crashing looses you way more!

[@t-tech7797]

If you can handle tc it’s much faster to turn it off

[@laxly442]

But Jarno usually doesn’t spin or crash

[@mauriciolandos4712]

That's the point of grinding, if you get good enough TC off will make you faster. For us noobs tc is on is faster since we always spin

[@t-tech7797]

@@mauriciolandos4712 true like practice pays off over time

[@markstewart7002]

@@t-tech7797 on Co troller does turning it off make a difference as I turned it of and my delta out of corners wasn't any faster

[@Nugget_man7269]

Me seeing the world record is 1:13:6 Realising I got a 1:13:5 in my team Me remembering that the cars are faster than usual in my team

[@hyper8959]

Jarno should race 110% AI with all max assists

[@2wenty4our7evenperformance3]

F1 2022 they will have a Jarno difficulty 😂 I can only play 93/110 smh

[@akosfeher3095]

That feeling when jarno is faster with all assists on than me with medium tc and automatic gears

[@aggelouis87]

9:37 why did you leave more space there? 😧. I'm about to deal with bad nights

[@juanmanueldominguez827]

Can we talk about the consistency you must have to actually be able to identify that brake assist slows you exactly 2.4, 1.2 and 0.6 after 6 laps?

[@Trekkerfahrer]

Just wanna show something else... getting world record .... :D

[@Deanster101]

Me watching this and switching all assists off and torpedoing into the barrier at 200mph on the first corner.

[@silvi6eazy406]

Finally, a video we all have been waiting for!

[@rmyazid284]

So now we knew that Haas used high braking assist in every single qualifying sessions this year

[@mats_stm8141]

For going with an automatic gear box: Tapping the break before the apex of the corner will downshift. Just letting you know because you mentioned it is not shifting down fast enough.

[@stevenrobertson8866]

I'm glad you do these vids as I'm currently using abs with medium tc in my team with 95 difficulty with the g920. Last game I struggled but this year it's definitely better without full traction, your videos help my gameplay since following you last 2 years. Keep up the good work 🤘👍

[@floriandivis673]

Did he make It on purpose 22:21 to trigger us all

[@QuinnDonaldson]

should i try and take off ABS? i have it on because my Wheel and Pedals are the Thurstmaster t80 so its very very hard to have good foot control and i always lock up. should i just keep practicing with it off?

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

do what's more fun for you

[@kjmiller5023]

Dude accidentally beat the world record😂

[@SPRUNKBOY]

You should try it in the wet with assist on.

[@nikolasbraniotis]

Hi jarno can you upload videos for how to stop using abs and traction control off.Huge fan from the beautiful Greece

[@jacobchartier2831]

“The lap wasn’t perfect” *Sets the world record

[@proHannuTorrekens]

casually 2ns try world record 😂😂

[@Slazee]

Jarno can we maybe see you do a video with a regular steering wheel like g920 or smthing and compare time differences?

[@msxk6763]

YES! WE NEED THIS! NOW

[@MasterGynx]

Really interesting video actually. It's good to know you can improve your times by turning off TC and ABS and learn the control of the car more.

[@Lobstersarefabulouz]

I mean.. F1 cars are made to be driven without any driving aids in the first place. Makes sense that turning them on slows you down. On the opposite side are gt cars for example. They do have TC and ABS and are built to make use of them. In a GT3 car you will be slower if you fully turn off TC. Realistic sims like iRacing or ACC have settings where you can adjust TC on the fly and with 10+ strength settings. I usually have it set fairly low and once my tires start to wear i increase TC by one to counteract the loss of grip. I wish more racing games would implement settings like this. In FH for example the TC is way too strong and there is only one strength setting. But in the end ya gotta use what you feel comfortable with.

[@KayJblue]

I’ve recently been turning off all my assists. Currently No ABS Halfway Traction control Manual transmission. (And I’ve never played with any of the other ones lol)

[@TheKillingPerfection]

the most difficult one to play without is racing line :(

[@6Alexis8]

TC is easier than ABS to turn off in my opinion

[@karl343]

Look up some track guides, you'll get optimal braking points without racing line.

[@stefankortvely7619]

Jarno's intros then: Yoyoyo what is up guys😃 Jarno's itros now: 🪀

[@KonKarPinguin]

I stopped watching Jarno‘s videos for a while and now watched this again and given the moment at 2:23 I can tell Jarno hasn’t changed… He is still an absolute legend🔥

[@prodbybabygod7411]

Should you practice without assists anyways if you want to race competition races?

[@tommy_dark2520]

Yes because in esports for example, you can’t use assists

[@akshitshrivastava4827]

Next time please do tc+ automatic gear too And ABS + tc + automatic gear too Thanks for the video :)

[@alexmason7103]

In last year’s game I had auto gearbox but bound the downshift button for the engine braking (could downshift as I wanted). If it still works in this year’s game could you try that vs full manual?

[@damiane3290]

Would you do a video comparing Default balanced setup vs another fixed set up vs Full custom set up? Maybe for each circuit or some and explain set up logic for us plebs

[@fishingninja]

I used to drive medium tc on a controller on f1 2020 that i got this year and then i could drive without but when i bought my g29 i had to turn tc back to medium 😅

[@worstenbroodje6832]

If your brake curve was set so it would be 100% active in the first part of the pedal ABS would win easy. Just use it like it's a button, you can drive the same but just no chance of locking your wheels.

[@jorisfries7595]

Would have liked to see you driving with the racing line, just to compare your braking points etc to the racing line and also to see whats possible when you drive with the racing line on (like me)

[@pablodigrazia8352]

So how much is tc medium + low braking assists combined?

[@floydrespecter2483]

Dont use braking assist but medium TC is ok

[@thomashancock1462]

He beats the WR and just goes 'that's not perfect but it's good enough for the world record' This man...

[@gema6286]

So Haas 2021 got the assist on

[@mathijsvanvliet6796]

Me in top 1000: what A good lap! Jarno: not a perfect lap but enough for a world record

[@liamandxaviersrandomthings9084]

People get the advantage by putting the brake bias rearward 53 or 52 percent. They get super rotation

[@michaelswift7597]

Always nice when I see another video from Jarno P🅾️gmeer

[@m.r.8903]

but it should also be noted that with TC enabled it is possible to use a more oversteery setup (less rear wing) and better handle worned rear tyres...

[@sendit88]

Jarno using assists? JOG ON

[@mochagreen]

Jarno can you reach us how to transition away from assists?

[@oggy112]

Could you do a comparison between how fast you are on your natural line vs the ingame racing line?

[@danielson7723]

Jarno is Jeremy Clarkson..... but F1

[@mattdsoares]

Mostly get these results because simcade games (and even full sims most of the time) very poorly and unrealistically model real ABS and TC systems. If F1 allowed ABS or allowed TC again, every team would rush to implement it because it makes them faster and more consistent. There's a good reason that GT3 cars, for example, regardless of how talented the pro driver is, always use TC and ABS.

[@jameslee4519]

As someone that DOES use dynamic racing line, it would be very interesting to see you do a time trial with it on, just to see how close the game's line is to the one you take

[@felipesouza1445]

Good thumbnail maker you have, the thums are so good

[@GuagoFruit]

If you do this for f1 22, you should try racing line, specifically follow the braking markers and racing line to see how slow that is compared to properly knowing the track and car limits. Basically, driving like how a casual player would.

[@Slazee]

I see jarno I get up and watch then go back to sleep

[@christianstojanov]

Which track is this?

[@aimg_trompete843]

Jarno: How much slower is using assists of F1 2021 Jarno will set a time, oh wow, worldrecord xD xD xD

[@callumburton1287]

Good video jarno👍

[@deathmachineyt3254]

There's so many times he could have gone faster

[@ladyxxmacbeth]

I drive with all the assists on. I find it fun. My bf and I play and he drives without them on. If I get close to his time then it's a win in my book because I know I'm a lot slower generally than him. Cannot drive with them off it just makes the game disappointing

[@willsutton54]

you need to do 100 laps with each setting and publish your last 10 laps and then your data would be better,was going to put in a nasty comment but why do that...I guess social media is like that :-(

[@SuperMK1989]

I dont understand why traction control would reduce the lap time. Does it just keep the throttle that much below grip limit?

[@TheKanivalos]

i play full braking assist and nothing else plus auto gears , ive tried so many times to go down to medium braking and my car turns for no reason what am i doing wrong? braking should have no reason to make my car turn after, ive learend the wrong way i see everyone has braking off and left for TC last i did the stupid oppossite i guess

[@AntonyK48]

Jarno why you are slower with abs is because you are still trail braking while abs does trail braking for you so you are just not using the maximum brake pressure possible to go through the corner.

[@jonathanvega7523]

Lmfaoooo. If I have to I always retire my session on this track in My Team because I can't drive here for shit and here he is casually setting a world record

[@dimitrijebucalo4335]

He just beat the world record and be like „oh yeah nice“ and continues making the video🙄😂

[@fearr-5174]

Hallo jarno ik rij met controle zonder assist tractie gemideld en geen stuur asisst of brake asisst dat is dus voor beginners

[@LarryLooseman]

Imagine having braking assist on high and only being 2.4 seconds off WR

[@theodorearvidsson9938]

Wait, is this a reupload or what? I saw this video like a week ago????

[@tommy_dark2520]

Probably u saw the video he made last year on F1 2020, also in Mexico.

[@theodorearvidsson9938]

@@tommy_dark2520 oh yeah forgot about that, youtube recommendations fucked me

[@KNDCHV]

I removed ABS and I am so slow that it's insane...But I wanna learn without it.

[@iemand2234]

Gast hoe kan je zo rustig blijven als je nummer 1 van de wereld bent haha

[@garethstroud5586]

I have to use most of the assists otherwise I can't drive the car. I really don't know how to teach myself to get it right

[@snOOziie]

I can play with out most assists but without traction control I am constantly spinning out.....

[@aarnavkembhavi2820]

Advantage of ABS is that i can use 100% brake pressure

[@mister0relha]

you cant play on keyboard without trac control, its impossible

[@tim5983]

Can we just talk about how the man clearly has Microsoft Office but decides to use Notepad instead?

[@Irevoltnow]

I'm still doing sbinallas with full TC, help!!!

[@pattyboi228]

turn DRS assits on DRS is pretty OP because it turn its on straight away