How My $3000 Doberman Is Different From My $600 Doberman

[@southpawshooters2650]

My first dobie was a 500 dollar backyard dog. She ended up being a diamond in the rough. Grew to a hefty 100lbs, had the perfect Doberman pattern, never had any of the typical Doberman problems and lived a healthy 10 1/2 years till cancer got the best of her last month.

[@jasonreyna7615]

My girl passed at 2yrs old suspected to be poisoned. She was 103.1lbs

[@scottlyttle5586]

Sorry to hear about the cancer, but 10.5 years is a really good life for a Dobie!

[@cruithin4773]

Sorry to hear about the losses on here. I know how much that hurts. It doesn’t matter if you’ve had your Dobie 10 weeks or 10 years. That loss is there and your Dobie is greatly missed. I just passed the one year mark last week since I lost Tara suddenly while on a walk. And it’s been about 7 years since I lost Nikita. And I’m still hurting at the loss of each one. So spend each day as if it’s your last and never get mad at your Dobie. They’re trying to make you happy. And any mistake is on the owner for improper training. Yes, I’m biased. But I’ll say they’re the best breed out there.

[@joshuamoore8237]

Typical Doberman owner just falling in love with it more than they thought they could. 😆I had a similar example with my Zeus ( G.O.A.T.♥️). My boy came from a run down ex-cop that, or so he said. My buddy and I took all of my graduation money and for $450 I was given a dog that helped me grow and love in more ways than I should go into on a yt comment section ha ha. Greatest breed God ever designed was given to Mr. Doberman and then blessed the world with always worth every single dime!

[@rickall4773]

@@jasonreyna7615 Damn, that sucks! God will take care of the perp.

[@KrugerrandFarms]

My Dobie, sort of , was given to me by a friend from church. His mother was a pure bred Doberman named "Killer" and his sire was a German Sheppard from the next farm. I didnt have him cropped or docked so he looked like a hound dog with Doberman blood. "Franzie" was my best friend for 15 years. He weighed 95 lbs. and could run 42 mph. His fangs were almost 1.5 inches long and could bite right through a woodchuck. Best dog and soulmate I ever had. We could read eachothers minds to an almost spooky extent. It's been 30 years and I still miss him. Gotta. stop writing before I tear up....

[@a2thek914]

Cherish his memories as you already are.

[@aya9af]

R.I.P. Franzie 🙏🏽

[@Joooooooooooosh]

Doberman Shepherds are the smartest dogs I’ve ever seen. Love mine.

[@Seabang84]

My ex girlfriend had a dobie/gsd cross. One of the best dogs I've ever known

[@dsoule4902]

Yeah....

[@ms.pirate]

Cooper: I will grow in any condition Arlo: I'm allergic too tap water

[@DobermanPlanet]

Lol! Very accurate!

[@SLIk9]

What is your point? I guess you are one of those irresponsible breeder fans. Keep in mind Cooper DIED early because of poor genetics.

[@SLIk9]

Quite a disappointing response to a harmful comment for future Dobie owners.

[@co8008]

@@SLIk9 Please take a breath. It was a joke and everyone can see it was a joke. If you need to pick a fight go find a worthwhile issue.

[@mavel2038]

@@co8008 you forgot the free dog: allergic to the world and scared of their shadow.

[@Rachel.222]

I bought a backyard craigslist yorkie and 17 yrs later my yorkie still goes on 45 min walks with me like a champ, he still runs and jumps when he's excited. Never got him vaccinated and his only 3 vet visits were for tooth extractions/cleaning in these later years.

[@sharonsilva5858]

My doberman came from a backyard breeder. We have always said that the 300 bucks we spent on her was the best spent money! She turned 11 years old on August 31 of this year! She is beautiful, so smart, and so sweet! Our love! We pray we have her for awhile longer. But at 11 we know our time with her is running out! We were blessed by God to have this girl come into our lives. She was 7 weeks old.

[@gaminbeast1999]

11 years really spend more time with her as much as possible cut your personal life if necessary

[@gaminbeast1999]

Trust me

[@Gking239]

How did you discover the breeders?

[@co8008]

7 weeks is too young. It's wrong, not cute.

[@elizabethferguson7002]

@@co8008 7-8 weeks is the time all pups go. Pups start on mush at around 3-4 weeks old. The bitch only produces milk (even wild dogs) for 10 weeks. I think 6 weeks is a little early to remove from their litter mates, but 7-8 weeks is ideal.

[@Coste1072]

The BEST dog I've ever owned without a doubt was a backyard bred male Doberman that I bought in 1975 for $75. He died from a pulmonary stroke at near 11 years of age. I will never forget him.

[@OakwiseBecoming]

STOP calling loving HOME breeders “backyard breeders.” It’s BETTER to get a dog from a loving family pet that had puppies than the evil KC breeders who have ruined so many breeds! Just like this video says, the loving home bred dog is better in many ways because he’ll have come from lines of family pets so they are CALMER! Whereas KC or fancy expensive breeders are often working lines which will be SO HYPER or show lines which will have health problems. And just like this video shows, KC and other high end breeders are a major cause of INBREEDING due to use of a small number of studs siring all the puppies. Many home breeders DO test their dogs before breeding. So you can support a loving home breeder but choose one that has had their dogs health tested.

[@kindmoonmushroom2146]

​@@OakwiseBecoming ми так отримали обох вівчарок. Перший не мав проблем зі здоров'ям до самої смерті, другий активний і міцний і я сподіваюся, що він проживе ще довго ❤

[@rlight7666]

Cooper sounds like the best dog for inexperienced dog owners. He was chill, intelligent and had great recall.

[@PerfumeCognac]

No Doberman is a good dog for inexperienced dog owners, and no breeder worth their salt should sell a dobe to an inexperienced dog owner

[@lucypilkington7448]

It was pure luck. There are other breeders that are breeding for good pets, but still have good genetics behind them. the more expensive dog was out of working lines. 9/10times with a back yard breeder you will get a nut job that the owners cant handle. Those dogs are who are in the animal shelters. Well bred dogs pretty much never end up there and there is a reason for that

[@joanna0988]

@@PerfumeCognac How do you become experienced though? You need to own the dog, do the research and be open to expert help. I know someone that is "experienced" because he's had Akitas for 30 years but he never does proper training with them and has had a few of his dogs really hurt other dogs.

[@HALLAH408]

It's not that Cooper had higher intelligence or a better thinker. This was because he didn't have high drive and courage like Arlo. Arlo is more independent and thinks more for himself vs Cooper would like to be closer to the owner when in public and that's not related to recall work at all

[@HALLAH408]

@PerfumeCognac there is a Doberman Kennel called Ari Amaru Dobermanns in California and they actually offer lifetime genetic health guarantee plus lifetime obedience training with the purchase of their puppies

[@rose7777]

After keeping so many super expensive pure breds, now im so open to adoption and buying any low priced animal who needs help or who chooses us. Animals are beautiful no matter where they come from ❤❤❤👼🏼

[@airplane6098]

My Doberman that I rescued 3 years ago is almost 11 years old now and we’re still walking 4-5 miles a day…I thank God every day that I decided to rescue my main man Bruce! He has saved my life more than I saved his!

[@Keefer24]

🧢

[@lornajean7286]

Wow 4 miles

[@Shaggy_0213]

When you were going over the list of 600$ and 3000$ dog I was definitely leaning towards Cooper more imo. Calm and relaxed and already good off the leash.

[@kayemkm1703]

Same here👍

[@tcolley]

Do think that was the point of the video

[@alenamerklova9235]

but that's not really how dobermans should be. Arlo seems like a way better representation of the breed. I have a working bred border collie and most people would choose a BYB dog over him. But he is exactly what a border collie is supposed to be - needs tons of physical and mental enrichment, herds everything that moves (had to work on not doing that), extremely high-drive, can easily outsmart people, has to check everything on walks, is easily aroused etc. But that's how he should be. Not a calm family dog that won't even look at a sheep, lazes around all day and is happy with some trick training for a few minutes a day and an hour walk.

[@patrickmetcalf2165]

Best dog I ever had was $80 from the hood. They told me he was purebred pit, but he ended up weighing 120lbs and definitely had a good bot of mastiff in him. Best dog a family could’ve asked for.

[@ivyrose779]

My first dog was supposed to be a boxer-pit mix. I saw the mom and she was a regular looking maybe 55lb pit bull but I didn’t see the dad. He was a bit chunky but not too bad and weighed 130lb. I assume the “boxer” was probably a mastiff lol He was a great dog though.

[@Gee5425]

My best dog is my $32 pitbull from the hood. The guy was selling his pit puppies for $350 and $450, she was the runt, and was dying from a worm infestation. She was skin and bones, with a huge pop belly, hadn't eaten in 6 days, and was laying off to the side of the litter. The mom had just been picked up by the pound for biting someone, and he was talking about how my dog was depressed and he didn't think she was going to make it. It was obvious she had a worm infestation, so I told him let me have her. He said you can take her for $75, and I told him I had $32 and would smoke a blunt with him and he said alright. I took her, gave her her shots, dewormed her, and fed her by bottle for 2 weeks. She's 14 today, laying around living her best old dog life. Now I'm just trying to prepare myself for her end of life, I know it's coming soon, she's lived a long, happy, pretty damn healthy life. Cheapest dog I've ever bought, best deal I've made. She was well worth their original asking price, I just got lucky. 🙂

[@ericinfante1885]

Yeah ive had so many people say their pit is pure red and weight 80-120lbs! Pits are 45-60lbs max but I love em all. I actually like a pit with mastiff in it but not neopolitan cuz they get really dumb down on their athleticism. Never try to argue with them but there's nothing bad about having an xl pit, I have a apbt/amstaff mix at 18 inches at the shoulders and 60lbs. Love him but I wish I had mastiff in him lol. I used to be so scared of pits as a kid and now that I'm an adult I see them as they are, a medium sized dog, and I'm like "how did I think this was huge? Lol but they are still freaking tanks!

[@josephkimbrough6291]

Got my pit x rott for the same $80 from a homeboy on my 21st birthday. I had to get surgery for him to remove bladder stones last two years ago. Still has some issues here and there. He's been bitten by a rattlesnake in while hiking the Rockies, and to this day i count on him to teach my younger bull breeds certain protective qualities as we do security work together. He's 10! I'll probably spend more money on the tattoo I plan on getting after he passes on!!

[@c.costanza1145]

Yikes. No wonder every low life has one. I have underwear that costs more than that.

[@tajahutcherson1972]

My Doberman was free(a year old); came from a breeder who could not afford to ship all her dogs back to South America. She named him Phlee because he was the runt of the litter and ended up being the biggest at 120 pounds. Had the same qualities like Cooper and lived to be 14 years old. THE BEST DOG THAT I EVER HAD!!!!!!

[@juliafromwisconsin]

I have had three dobermans over 20+ years and they all came from rescues. They were all pure-bred Dobes. I urge people to check out the rescues before buying, most states have breed rescues. The good breed rescues will work with you to find the right fit. Each of my dogs needed a very small amount of working with, but it was not a great deal of work, and they became incredible dogs. For example, I adopted a two year old male that had been starved and was only 45 pounds with a curved back, but he put on weight, his back straightened out, and became a large, absolutely beautiful dog at around 85 pounds. All of my Dobes were/have been the best of dogs - true great companions. Please try the rescues!!

[@williamdavis9562]

I got a Kangal shepherd from a farmer who was a backyard breeder type. He essentially bred the working dogs for his own use to protect his goats and sold off any excess pups he didn't need. No papers, no genetic testing nothing. His pup grew up to be a fantastic dog for me.

[@savagestash4354]

The best thing I ever learned was if you have a great dog let it train your next dog. Really makes a difference having the alpha show the youngster how things work. 5 in a row over 30 years overlapping ages without fail.

[@toddpittman9709]

100% percent agree. Have 3 dogs and oldest help train all three!

[@ErikAndrew-q2p]

That’s that pack mentality! If Cesar Milan was good at one thing, it was introducing the problem dogs to his pack to smooth out their attitudes.

[@sayno2globalism]

Agreed. Bought my Olde English Bulldogge’s when they were puppies. My 12y Chihuahua was 10y at the time, she’s great with commands and tricks. She helped me teach the bulldogge’s a lot.

[@starlakelsey2782]

The Embark testing kit is one of the best tips you have ever shared with us. So glad I got both my dobes tested. My old girl (10 1/2 now) came in at 21% COI. She cost me $1,500. Her brother passed at 7 from bladder cancer. My newest male (now 3) was $3,500. His COI is 41%. I wish I had known about Embark for my first male puppy. Thanks for keeping us informed.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Wow what a difference! 21% is so low for a Doberman! There have been studies directly linking lower COI numbers to longer lifespans. So I'm super happy (but not surprised) to hear that she's still going strong at 10.5 years! That's great. I hope you guys have MANY long years still to go. I'm sure you do!

[@ivy_caine5302]

I would be angry with a COI% of 41, that’s like brother to sister

[@JacksonsDobermans]

You won't get a $600 dog from Embarked parents

[@Taureantiger888]

A solid breeder would have done this already. This man paid $3000 for a dog that wasn't tested..it makes no sense. They should also do a puppy test(volhard)at 8 weeks to test temperment to match appropriate families with the dog. There is no way this was a reputable breeder. A true reputable breeder will produce OFA and embark..amongst breed specific health tests. There is a reason you are paying in the thousands for the dog. I'm wondering if the parents were even involved I'm any shows or competitions or the breeder just marketed the term "champions" lol.

[@a-aron19]

@@Taureantiger888 Bingo. Paying $3K for a dog from a breeder that doesn't properly health test, etc means that you just spent $3K on a glorified backyard breeder. The DPCA's list of recommended breeders is a great place for anyone who is looking for a reputable Doberman breeder. Sometimes people are far too enamored by price & fail to look at the things that are much more important when it comes to what makes a reputable breeder. Also, this Euro obsession many are on (solely due to looks) is a huge problem. Amazing how many don't realize how much better bred to the standard most Americans are vs the Euros. Health testing & a quality/traceable pedigree should be much more important than solely focusing on price.

[@0292-q3l]

My first dog was a cross between Dobermann and GSD, we found her on the side of the road abandoned in a crate at maybe 8 or 9 weeks old, she lived until 15 years old, she was honestly the best dog I've ever had the pleasure of being around, the most loyal dog I've ever owned, always so loving and I could always trust her with my life, very protective but only when she needed to be. She passed away 7 years ago, it still feels weird not having her around, I know I'll never have the same bond with a other dog... R.I.P Cassie, we will meet again.

[@romans116blessed5]

I've seen the best and worst of both sides. My first Doberman was a gorgeous black and rust male, that I purchased from a family, who were not dedicated breeders, but owned male and female Dobermans and wanted them to have a couple of litters. I didn't have a large budget to work with at the time, so I was thrilled to see the advert for AKC Doberman pups for sale. I drove two hours to them, and was able to get pick of the litter. I'm dating myself here, but this was in 1983, and I paid $100 for this boy. Pretty sure the owners of the pups didn't know what they had. To this day, that remains the best $100 that I ever spent!!! Trapper ended up weighing 110 pounds, and was the smartest dog that I have ever had, to this day. The next Doberman that I purchased, was from a dedicated show breeder, and I paid $800, in '85. Unfortunately, he developed wobblers syndrome at four years old. At the advice of my veterinarian, I contacted the breeder, since this is a genetic disease, and of course was told, none of her dogs were ever diagnosed with it. I said all of that, to say this:. I became involved in AKC conformation shows, became a breeder, and I have seen it all! The good, the bad, and the absolute worst, from wanna be back yard breeders, show breeders and all points in between. I learned that a mom n pop breeder can have beautiful healthy dogs with excellent temperament and conformation. I learned that show breeders can have dogs with health issues, temperament issues, and conformation issues. I learned to trust my gut when picking a pup, and not just my eyes. I learned to ask for genetic health test results on adult breeding dogs. I learned to ask questions, and I learned how to listen. It takes a special kind of person, I believe, to live and breathe dog, and we're probably all a little crazy 🤣. I would also add, that the Doberman is not a breed for everyone, so if you are looking for a Doberman pup, don't be surprised if the breeder asks you alot of questions. My journey started with a $100 Doberman named Trapper, who was my beloved companion for 12 years. He was, and still remains, the best dog I have ever had!!

[@rudywatkins1312]

@ Roman's 1:16 Blessed What great advice. I'm pretty smart but just did not think about asking to see the parents tests. Your awesome! 🤗🤗🙂

[@oneoflokis]

👍👍

[@Starry_Night_Sky7455]

So you tell all of your dogs about Trapper? I would! ❤❤❤

[@yyg4632]

I would honestly be so mad. They gave you a sick dog for so much money.

[@HolidayTasch]

Great reply, and so true.. I bred for a little while only because of a contractual agreement unfortunately because I too was trying to save money on a dog. I love the breed.. but my best dog I got for $50 from the shelter, she lived to be 13 I got her at 2 yrs, best Doberman ever and I have had plenty. God bless you and I'm glad you're doing what you're doing keeping the breed pure but mixed enough so their genes are not screwed up because of what some breeders have done unfortunately. God bless and keep up the good work.

[@4vinylsound]

I purchased a $4000 German shepherd puppy and I also in the past got a German shepherd puppy from the animal shelter for free both dogs had their own personality there was no reason why to spend that much money when I can get one for free at the animal shelter and save a life. Huge mistake paying thousands for a dog when I could save a life for free at the animal shelter.

[@jmc8076]

🙌🙏

[@laurentead65]

My first Doberman was I discovered after I bought her from an accidental breeding from a byb. She cost $600 but developed an autoimmune disease that was expensive to figure out but once in remission she did great and lived to be 14. She was an amazing dog the best I ever had. When I was ready for my second dobe I went to a very well known longtime breeder and official in the DPCA. $3000 for my pup. His temperament was very different from my female. He was much harder to train. I never got to take him very far in his training before he became sick before he turned 4. I spent thousands trying to extend his life after we got the dreaded DCM diagnosis. I only got 4 months after his initial seizure. I spent thousands on vets and medication trying to buy time unsuccessfully. His heart failure ripped my heart apart. His brother the only other pup I had contact with from his litter died 4 months after I called his owner to warn her to get his heart checked. Over a year has passed and I still cry everyday for my boy and his brother. I thought erroneously going to a big time famous breeder would afford me some protection against dcm boy I couldn't have been more wrong.

[@mlackey9812]

Tears come easily when thinking about the loss of such a good friend. I too know.

[@cruithin4773]

Sorry about your loss. That suddenness of DCM hurts like nothing else. It shocks your entire system. It’s like a bad dream. I’m really sorry.

[@DobermanPlanet]

That's so sad, Lauren. We are mourning his loss with you. What a tragedy! You are certainly right that paying top dollar for a dog doesn't guarantee him a longer lifespan, unfortunately. Both your male and female Dobermans, obviously, were wonderful dogs and very special to you. Our condolences.

[@andreil1313]

Dobermanns are unfortunately riddled with genetic issues. Love them but I’d never own one.

[@caraanam2744]

Dobermann originally is a breed from Germany. A man named Dobermann was the Original breeder. He lived in the east German state Thüringen. In Germany it is now strictly forbidden to cut the wag and ears (to avoid inflammation of the ear) from the Doberman. But nevertheless this wonderful dog looks quite beautiful. I myself have a male not castrated. He is by now 10 years old weight 43 kgs and since I got him I definitely had no chance to go to toilet by my own 🤣. These dogs are really extremely wonderfull. I love him like crazy. Thx for you nice channel about these wonderful dogs. Greatings from Germany

[@chrisspringer614]

I think you made a very good argument that your $600 doberman was a much better dog: calmer, thoughtful, great with kids, intelligent,

[@sonjacoclet573]

He presents training in 7 days. Each of 7 items are commands that he believes a dog should know. They are presented in part ii of the book kzbin.infoUgkxK8-VQWpYThx4IC6MiIvb6VS1ebTzzdxq . The parts of the guideare divided: part i know your dog part ii the seven commands part iii cures for 7 behavior problems. Each chapter presents a topic, a dog's story, and a "what to do". It was written simply and you can jump from chapter to chapter to review anything as needed.

[@RachelS-pq8rr]

I just bought a 600 Doberman puppy. I am waiting for the embark test in the mail. My first Doberman, Ruby was amazing and sold me on the Doberman breed. She went everywhere and did everything with me. I miss her terribly!

[@drudru5992]

All my problems began when I upgraded to professional GSD breeders. Went back to rescue dogs and my dog health related problem improved. Crazy.

[@kayemkm1703]

All these health issues are really discouraging me from buying and getting close to a Doberman. It's very good to be educated on what to expect though.

[@izzypfutzenreuter]

It’s because American breeders ruined the GSD for aesthetic making it more prone to hip dysplasia and other genetic diseases. The American line GSD is so much different from what we have here in Germany. Even the Doberman and the Rottweilers are so different in the US.

[@drudru5992]

@@izzypfutzenreuter 100%. Would also add that vets in the U.S are now insisting that dogs get fixed at 7 months which has exacerbated the problem.

[@Purplesquigglystripe]

A lot of “professional breeders” are just glorified puppy mills, even more so with popular dog breeds like German shepherds.

[@FATFERSEV99]

adopt, dont shop !

[@monp.4903]

My friend's son got good working line GSDs and wanted to breed them but he went through rough times and his mom (my friend) took care of the dogs. Lo and behold she had puppies, she always had fixed dogs so she just didnt think of it. Well, I took 2 of those GSD puppies for free, she just wanted good homes for the pups. And they are incredible, smart, beautiful pups. I am very lucky to have them.

[@Fatboy53]

Got a rust from pound 16 m old. Wouldn’t get off floor. Worker was like- u still want him? I said bring him out to the sun. Dog was ecstatic. We took him. Smartest dog ever. We moved and had to sell him. I was very careful. Sold him to a single Mom with a 12 year old boy who needed a friend. She grew up with Dobies. We still talk. Dogs, like us, can be saved and teach us so much good. Great vid

[@clearresultsfitness]

Great video. I've been following you since Cooper. I had $600 American Dob a long time ago. Now I have a $3k Euro Dob. The obvious differences are size and temperament. The American was vocal and very excitable. The Euro is quiet, chill, has only barked 5 times in 3 years, and uses better judgement on many occasions. Both were great. Just highlighting a few differences.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Very interesting! It's cool hearing different people's experiences, not only with the two variations of the Doberman breed, but also with the dramatic differences in these prices. Thanks for sharing!

[@fmui]

I feel the same but I have a different breed. They are both Chinese Crested. The one from a proper breeder (who did genetic testing) is just much quieter and calm and easier to train.

[@syrus1233]

Our $600 Rottador barely barks and is very calm and chill but the only issue we have is that if you run away from him he chases and barks at you. Somewhat aggressive multiple barks other then that he’s super quiet happy and a really good boy. He always rolls with his belly up to greet us.

[@clearresultsfitness]

@@syrus1233 that’s very cool that it’s the only issue you have with him. I’d like a little “stance confidence or slight growl” from my dobie at some point. Mine is so passive and chill though.

[@SuperAga24]

This comment told me more about both breeds then the video … thank you for that

[@bernadotheosmy617]

treat them equally with love no matter how much more expensive one is then the other

[@frankklimko9058]

I have found its not how much you pay, because each dog has its own personality. If you're working with a breeder, tell them what personality traits you are looking for in a Dobie.

[@DobermanPlanet]

So true! Each dog has his or her unique personality!

[@Orangeshebert]

I’ve always been a bit afraid of Dobermans…. Stumbled upon this video and learned a lot. I’ll keep watching and get myself educated.

[@lolajoker]

First Dobie we got was from a couple that came into my Dad's bar with a blue doberman puppy looking to give it to a good home. My Dad took her in. She was approx 4 to 6 weeks old. No DNA test (this was in the 80's) but her body conformation showed that she was most likely 100% doberman. She grew to a rather large female at 72 lbs. She was sweet, protective, intelligent, loved kids, not overly active but always ready for anything. She became the best dog and made me fall in love with the breed. She lived to be 12 and was healthy until the the last few weeks. I have never paid for any of the other dobermans I've had. They have all been rescues. There are just too many unwanted dogs out there to justify buying from a breeder. Of all the rescues I've had (10), I haven't had a bad one yet. Except for one that got a brain tumor and died at 5, they've all lived relatively long lives (11 - 14), just never long enough!

[@marthacano4841]

I rescued my Dobie too 🫶🏽

[@Greekkitty]

All of my Dobies have been rescue dogs as well. ❤️

[@trishasylvester7659]

Agreed! There are SO many dogs that need loving homes. That need has dramatically increased with inflation. Unfortunately lots of irresponsible owners thinking how "fun" or "cute" it would be to breed their dog with thought it's "easy" money. Too many great prospective pets being euthanized.

[@kathrinejenssen1589]

Definitely adopt if you can! 👏🏻

[@dtcdtc8328]

That's where I'm at , thinking of rescue. My last dog was a Giant Schnauzer I waited a year for his parents to be bred then to be born and to be 8 weeks. His mom ( damn) had 10 generations of Czech Police dogs and his dad( sire) had 10 generations of East German Police and border patrol dogs, 4 of them actually Patrolled the Berlin Wall. Anyways , he was $1200 in 2000. Mam on man we had a total blast , even happened upon a Police officer in distress , fighting with a dude and pretty much losing, I asked if we could help and he said YES! LOL , my guy was 4 and fully protection trained , I only had to give the dude 1 warning I'd release him if he didn't quit resisting and he dropped face down in the dirt. I absolutely love the working line Giant Schnauzer but I'm worried I'll compare and put unrealistic expectations on a another new one. So much so it's been 5 years since I had a dog and at 53 , I think previously the longest I went was a year.. But Im ready , and, I'm thinking I'm going to go your route and seek out a Dobe rescue place . It's refreshing to read you've had so much success with good dogs and man it's heartbreaking to see sooooooo many dogs needing a good home.

[@bronwynecg]

My uncle had one (along with a German Shepard) when I was a baby/toddler. I used to pull on both of them , as babies do , and never got growled at as far as I remember… Ahhhhh good times ✌🏽

[@cindyborbely9674]

My Canadian dob was 4500.00 and came with ears cropped and tail done. We had to look after his ears but they turned out great. Every time he is walked people say how beautiful he is. He won the best photo and people's choice award at our fair. We love him.

[@1980mikemore]

Where in Canada did you get him. I’m starting the process of getting a dob and looking for a breeder.

[@cruithin4773]

Our current Dobie is now our third. We paid $4000 Cdn and I don’t regret the cost. We also get compliments all the time on her coat. And she’s our best trained. That comes with experience. Please understand the work needed for a Dobie. I know someone with an 8 month old male and she didn’t realize the work involved. Now she’ll need to rehome him. That’s heartbreaking. To me, the extra cost goes into checking the genetic down the line. You don’t want to have DCM being more common than it is. In the end, Dobermans are amazing dogs. If you’re committed to train and spend time with them, you cannot go wrong with the breed. Truly amazing.

[@zekehu7701]

Great to know he's Canadian..Lol 👌

[@cindyborbely9674]

@@1980mikemore my breeder doesn't breed anymore. She got to old to keep up. She bread for 20 years. Her last litter were 2 females and they had 17 pups. They sold fast. All over Canada some went on planes. Our dog is so shiny and beautiful. He is not aggressive. He doesn't run to the door or jump on ppl. He's great with other dogs. We love him.

[@DobermanPlanet]

That's so great to hear, Cindy! What a stunner he must be if people are stopping you to compliment him on a regular basis. Congratulations on winning those two awards, too!

[@daluladesigns8366]

I have never owned a doberman but ive had an experience with “backyard” breeders. Our dog Duke was an black English lab that was the best dog I’ve ever had. His mom and dad were both AKC that the family decided to have one litter out of his momma before fixing and we spent $600 on him. He was calm, loyal, never growled or snipped at anyone, smart, and could be in our front yard without a leash. He lived 14 years until we had to put him to sleep (cancer). That guy barely looked old at his age and was a puppy until we had to let him go. Our other lab was a champage lab we got from a first time breeder. Both parents were silver labs and i raised him as a puppy. He had a cyst on his eye we removed that grew back, he was hard to potty train, and at 1.5 he started to show aggression out of nowhere towards people. He was healthy so there wasnt a reason for him to act that way but we were able to rehome him to my brother that doesn’t have kids (he started to not like kids). So ive had both sides of i guess back yard breeding. One was great and I’ll never forget our Dukers and the other was not so good where we still are a little more scared of dogs because of his aggressive behavior. Needless to say you never know

[@lynnlawrence834]

I got my dog several years ago from the the humane society. I got her tested and she's exactly 50% Treeing Walker Hound and 50% Doberman. She's looks just like a Doberman minus and cropping or docking. She has always been partial to Dobermans to play with at the dog park but is very friendly with all of the other dogs as well.

[@Greekkitty]

The Doberman bow is classic. At the dog park my Dobies tend to play with other Dobies as well.

[@Starry_Night_Sky7455]

With that 50% Treeing Walker in the DNA, squirrels dare not venture through her territory all too relaxed 😄.

[@neilreid2298]

We've had freebie rescue pure bred Dobies and one expensive Dobie from a well known breeder. All were great; it kind of depends on the dog- from inexpensive to expensive, they each have their own temperaments and intelligence. We loved every one of them. Paying top dollar doesn't necessarily result in the best one- or most favorite. A lot of care, nutrition, and training go into each of them.

[@mysticangel1110]

My first Dober (she taught me soooo much) was from 2 dobes that wandered onto my sister's Farm and surprise a litter was born. My last Doberman was $2,500 (plus the shipping) in 2005 and she was so very different coming from a working lineage. My next Dober is coming around January of this coming year and I've carefully checked out the health testing on both parents. Stuff can still happen and I'll have him health tested (genetically) as soon as we pick him up but, I am wanting to compete with this one so am stacking the willingness to work in our favor. His cost is $3500. Wish us luck.

[@kiiiburn]

I got a $600 italian greyhound from a backyard breeder in NH. 9 years later, this is one incredible dog and gets more attention than any other dog in the area wherever we are. I got offered $3000 cash randomly from a guy at the gas station, and he wasn't joking around. He has zero health issues and runs like the wind.

[@wcofwnc4902]

Thanks for the video! Im the one who asked the question about the differences 🤙 Sorry to hear about Cooper, I lost my best buddy to cancer but he still lived to be 15 years old, he was a redbone hound mix. For a doberman I had been doing research on breeders and finally found one that keeps track of pedigree and seems to be careful on diversity, longevity and temperament etc. One thing I would say is always visit and meet the sire and dam. I went to a breeder who actually had a good reputation but to me personally the dogs did not represent the breed very well. I hate to say it but they looked bred down and not very healthy. Im not looking for a working guard dog but more of mix of family pet and protector kind of like yourself. So hopefully if all goes well we will have a new member to our family in a couple months!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Congratulations on finding a great breeder and on the welcoming of your new puppy in the near future! Fifteen years old is a long life for any dog - kudos to your family for providing him with a wonderful, loving home. Hopefully you will have several years of enjoyment with your new Doberman!

[@MrThunderpoint]

o9oo.😊😅😅😊 9ô😅😊😅o😅😅😊😊😊😅😅,ooOOO 😊😅ooooooooooo999999999 !

[@DobermanGeneticProgram]

Anyone breeding any dog without having information on pedigree, health test, or COI is only risking offspring inheriting genetic diseases/disorders. You may be stuck dealing with & caring for. Not to mention the heartache and emotional distress of witnessing such issues. Professional breeders are producing dogs for the Betterment of the Breed. The price of a dog reflects the amount of money invested in that breeding program. It cost over $600 to crop a Dobermans ears at a veterinarian. How is a person selling that same dog for around that price? Because they spend the bare minimum on each puppy from 0-8 weeks old. Quick List: Whelping Supplies - Whelping Box, Collars, Rags, Towels, Cleaning Supplies, Medical Supplies, etc. Bedding - 8 weeks worth Puppy Food - 8 weeks for Mom & Puppies Milk Supplement - 2 weeks Dewormer - 2,4,6,8 weeks old Vaccination - 6 weeks old Puppy Registration - AKC or UKC Cleaning Supplies - 8 weeks worth Heat Lamp/Heat Mat - electricity 8 weeks Humidifier - electricity 8 weeks Air Filter - electricity 8 weeks Vet. Check for Mom - 7 weeks pregnant & Day 3 after Delivery Vet. Check for Puppy (3 days old) Tails Dock & Dewclaws Removed Care Supplies/Staple Removal Vet. Check for puppy (7 weeks old) Embark DNA Test - 4 weeks old *not to mention little things here & there. Like advertising, for example… There is so much more I have missed! I also did NOT mention ANY investments made on the Dam or Sire of litter. Both dogs should be fully tested as recommended by breed Club and visit a veterinarian as scheduled. This all cost money and is not cheap. Hip X-Rays cost us close to $500, you have to pay OFA to submit. That’s just 1 certifications and you MUST submit multiple results for each health issue. I can list expensive for days if you are producing dogs in an ethical way and respecting the art to better the breed. Without doing ALL you can, you are NOT bettering the breed ONLY making things worse. There is value in everything. Every dog is not produced the same and it makes a huge difference for the breed. It is impossible to truly Care for a Litter of Puppies without compensation to recover what was invested.

[@CrownedImperialPocketBullies]

That is 100% correct 👍

[@patrikgyurcsovics7826]

So why do you exactly mutilate the poor dog? For the bettermen of the breed? Gtfo

[@dudedabsworth8023]

I got a Doberman and German Shepard mix from a shelter as a puppy. She is all Doberman in looks and behavior. Currently 13 and going strong. Doberman mixes can be amazing too.

[@pizzajesus8139]

I have adopted a European Doberman. The owners were not Breeders, but they were EXTREMELY knowledgeable + they cared about their animal's health etc. It really doesn't have to be a big breeder to be able to adopt a nice and healthy young pup! Honestly, my gut feeling just felt so right. (I went through a big list of questions and checks on the pups' behavior etc.) I also have a Tiny apartment with a garden. Don't let yourself down and think they need huge space. They require their exercise, and they will be happy wherever you might live.

[@mavel2038]

If they bred their dogs, they are breeders.

[@654Tennis]

That's awesome and good to know that they can thrive anywhere! I'm hoping to get one but am moving into an apartment and unfortunately so many of the apartment complexes I am looking at ban Dobermans. It's truly a shame! Yours sounds great though!

[@LagusLykamo]

My Backyard Dobbie was $150, she lived to 14 y/o, never had health issues, was still quite active although couldn't run for long anymore, but was still playful and would go on long walks with me. She died suddendly early this year, woke up with anal bleeding. Vet ran all tests, everything came perfectly except for the pancreas, he said she probably ate something with lots of fat in the previous days, but we didn't feed her anything like that, we were hopeful but she didn't last the day.Heart breaking 😭.

[@arod077]

I agree 100% price does not matter. I got my Doberman from craigslist. I know it sounds horrible. What happened was they had a warlock show dog champion and their next door neighbor Dalmatian jumped over the fence and got with her. They really did not want to keep the puppies so they were giving them away. He is AMAZING. He is so good. He is 14 years old now and still kicking. The only issue he had was he got this weird immune issue with his teeth. I had to get rid of all his teeth. :(. Other than that he has been a really healthy dog. :)

[@amgooder]

A Dobie with spots who knew...

[@neilreid9005]

Our first Dobie was a $2,500 pup from a breeder. Really great dog, highly trained; died of heart failure at about 4. All our Dobie's were pure bred including four rescues. The last two are still with us and they are incredible dogs. Our perspective: it's more about temperament, matching their energy to your family's, and the luck of good genes than about the price tag. All of our rescues were/are better rounded than the DPCA Doberman. All Dobie's love and need gentle, positive reinforcement training.

[@mjnewman3422]

Looks like they had very different energy levels, which is an individual thing. I'd say the most important aspect of buying a purebreed is finding out what genetic ailments are common to the breed, then making sure that wherever you get the puppy from, the breeder can provide the parents' genetic profile so you know what potential health risks you're taking on. You should've got that up front for 3K, if you ask me.

[@owezzel]

Got ripped off 😅 cooper sound like the better dog to me. Idk why the backyard breeders underrated.

[@alexkane84]

The 3k dobermans are bred from working lines that's why they're so hyper.

[@andreil1313]

True! The least is to provide all the health testing.

[@mavel2038]

@@owezzel yeah, we should definitely be supporting poorly bred dogs from people that dont care about their dogs health or producing stable temperaments.

[@johnblah1234]

@@mavel2038 what does that even matter tho? Theyre just pets

[@Gee5425]

We showed and bred Doberman when I was younger, by far our best Doberman was our first, she was from a backyard breeder, cost us $250 in the 80s, she lived until 14 years old, she had cancer twice, and ended up dying from breast cancer at 14. She was the best dog, and she was a lot like how you described Cooper. In the 90s my parents decided to go into showing and breeding, because my grandmother was already doing so. We had one that died at 9 months, 170lbs, he ended up with a very rare type of cancer in his brain, and it was what caused him to get so huge, he was great with us kids, but wanted to eat grown men alive. My dad was the only man that could be around him. He was like $5k, awesome to us, but not worth the $5k now that I'm older. Then we got Joker, his parents both champions through Westminster, he was stupid expensive, a lot like how you explained Arlo, and ended up breaking his leg in our sand box at just 1 year old. We ended up only showing 2 of the Doberman that we got, one championed, but not at Westminster. Then we got into other breeds after Rosie; our family pet Dobie passed away.

[@jilliandickason8729]

I have a $250 Doberman I got from a rescue who got him from a backyard breeder bc he was born with a missing front leg. A month later he turned into a $12,000 Doberman because of emergency intussusception surgery & 24 hour care afterwards. But he’s amazing and worth every penny.

[@dzungphan2665]

You had him for a month and you’re willing to drop 12K ? You must’ve loved him maybe too much.

[@ritakonig1891]

😂 quick increase in value. Faster than house prices go up these days. 😂 like your humour 😂

[@normanseaholm811]

My first Doberman was a pure European Doberman, also named Cooper! I didn't pay attention to his genetics. He was huge and intimidating and full of love. But he came from a one time breeder and he passed at 5 years from DCM, abruptly. Couldn't stand life without him. SO, my new Doberman, Arya is also European and I spent a great deal more for her, but I also know her parents genetics in detail and from a more knowledgeable European Doberman breeder. She is also much more energetic and is very unruly UNLESS I exercise her routinely. Easier to do on weekends which means my wife struggles with her mischief during weekdays. The working breed line definitely shows more with her!

[@DobermanPlanet]

So interesting to read, Norman! It sounds like we've had a lot of similar experiences with Dobermans. Thank you for sharing!

[@ricks.1092]

Vets can now test for DCM via a procedure using some sort of sonar machine. The dog does need to be put to sleep for the procedure. I did my Dobie just 6 months ago. Abby just turned 4 and no sign of DCM. My vet charged $50 for procedure. But with sedating it came to like $100. Well worth it. If you do this procedure annually, it could be a world of difference.

[@chonky2129]

Did Arlo dirty with that bubble popping exposé. Lmao 😅

[@fbmimpy]

ps. if you have a large enough yard, our Dobbies loved laser pointers at night to burn much of their energy nightly (they'd chase it like a cat but at sprints)

[@fbmimpy]

just be careful if you have fence... one of our girls hit the fence rather hard a few times lol, she was the more sensitive but less aware one.. obviously 😆

[@jennasaisquoi73]

My Doberman (3 yo next month) has been getting his zoomies out this way for a year and a half -he is obsessed! 😂 I quickly saw the potential for him to injure himself, and taught him to stop on a dime with a sharp, “Whoa!” It has saved him from crashing several times when he’s too hyped to pay attention to obstacles. 😅

[@DobermanPlanet]

That's a great tip! What a fun and easy way to get some exercise in!

[@RipnRev]

A great way to make your dog light reactive, I would find another outlet for the prey drive, like a flirt pole.

[@jennasaisquoi73]

From the AKC website: “Many dogs continue looking for the light beam after the laser pointer has been put away; this is confusing for your dog because the prey has simply disappeared.” I understand the theory, but I think Dobermans in particular are smarter than that. I let my buddy invent new rules for the game, and he knows that when I put the light away, game time is over. I have also used the game to hone his obedience skills: perform a command (or even a string of commands!), and he gets a zoomy course around the yard. Maybe it’s just a matter of how thoughtfully/carefully a dog is trained.

[@fjautobot]

Thanks for teaching me about genetic diversity! We have a 10 month old Boerboel - a breed that likely has more g.d. than a Doberman. I feel so blessed to have purchased our dog from a backyard breeder for the same amount I paid for his DNA test that confirmed his purebred status.

[@jah5391]

I think the biggest difference is that ethical breeders plan their breedings based on health, type, temperament, and function. They also really care about their puppies so they ensure that they don't end up in bad situations at any point in their lives. I haven't heard of a single ethical breeder that doesn't have written in their contract that they'll take the dog back no questions asked. I have two whippets that I got from ethical breeders. One was pet quality and was absolutely fantastic and the other is show/breeding quality who I have just started showing so they were very different price points, but both had parents that were genetically tested and shown. I'm surprised you needed a test to know your dog's inbreeding and your dog's genetic testing though if you got it from a breeder. Most breeders have their breeding dog's genetically tested for common problems for the breed track the coefficient of inbreeding. My dogs coefficient of inbreeding are 7.74% and 6.97%

[@brentfrancis9187]

John, we went through our second bout of DCM with Eldric (7 years, 355 days) in 2022, our first being with Roscoe in 2013 (6 years, 3 months). In the timeframe between the two boys getting DCM was AMAZED to see how much research was being done to help the Doberman breed fight this. Eldric was 300 as a pup, Roscoe was rescued at 5 months and was 185. They were both great dogs and healthy otherwise. NC STATE Veterinary Hospital really has some useful information still. I hope and pray that Arlo hangs in there and does not have to go through it. One side note is that about 6-8 months before we knew they had DCM their fur started to get course and wavy, like a Lab.

[@Starry_Night_Sky7455]

I think the biggest reason to go with the "pricier" breeder is for better health outcomes. I'm not all sure what issues Dobies have. In my case, with Labradors (field bred type), its critical for these dogs to come from parents that have good or better elbow and hip OFA evaluations. A BYB might get lucky without doing OFA evaluations but why risk it? That's cruel to create a litter that might suffer hip dysplasia. Its also really expensive to do hip replacement surgery. That's why I say don't support BYB's that don't take their future litters life quality seriously. Can you get a healthy dog from a BYB? Yes. I surely have! Twice! Sort of. My last dogs were purebred Retrievers. Both lived past fifteen. Neither had any issues. Both trained exceptionally well! Anyway, health is the biggest factor for selecting a reputable breeder. Usually Pawprints is the genetic testing lab I know of (Its like Embark). Reputable breeders will do testing to know if a dog is a carrier of a known inherited disorder. A carrier can still be bred, just not to another carrier. Another reason some particular people may choose the pricier reputable breeder is to find a dog with a specific drive type. Like in my case, I sought out field labs from known titled dogs. There is much more than I can mention here as to why someone should go with the "pricier" breeder. I hate saying "pricier" because really the reputable breeder pays plenty in time and money as an investment cultivating their vision of whatever type of dog they intend to create. I hate saying all BYB's are bad. Not really true. Its just that if BYB's aren't doing genetic tests known for their breed, or if they skip OFA evaluations for hips and elbows on their breeding pairs, that's bad. Having said that, there are great dogs that come from everywhere. Actually if someone isn't fixated on a particular breed, I say have fun looking at "rescues" that are who knows what. There are plenty of fascinating mutts out there. Ive had them! Ha ha, Embark breed tests? Most fun ever for any shelter mix adopted dog. I'm not sure if I could handle getting a Dobie. Ive known too many that have had them. They seem to have short life spans 😭😢😥. Usually I hear of Dobies facing cardiac issues. But I completely understand why Dobies are so appealing! 😍😍😍 Personally I like Dobies with natural ears and tail left natural. Beautiful dogs, they are!

[@pugdad2555]

Just ban breeding. And all those former breeders can work with children in our foster care system.

[@okgroomer1966]

It's the "pro" breeders that have so many breeds inbred beyond repair. If your breed requires genetic testing, it's a inbred bloodline.

[@Starry_Night_Sky7455]

@@pugdad2555 As if they just seem perfectly suited to being knowledgeable and caring to children as if they are Mary Poppins? Highly unlikely. Very funny of you to suggest a nightmare idea. They probably would sell them off into human trafficking. Many humans should be banned from being within 300 feet of children, dogs, cats, and other people of all ages. Sadly too many unfit humans breed without any real thought or commitment to the children they carelessly create.

[@lilrocnine6658]

My one and only Doberman was a backyard bred red and rust colored amazing, unbelievable, incredible, fiercely brave hands down best four legged friend I’ve ever known in my entire life. He only lived nine years but it was nine wonderful years. He died in 05 and my entire family cried. Best hundred bucks I’ve ever spent.

[@toadtoad7200]

I bought my gsd for 190usd and she always stayed by my side without learning re-call. Simply sleeps all day if she can. She is a purebred, though I also knew a gsd who was ale pure but total opposite. So I think energy is about the individual dog overall cx

[@joerod5933]

I have fostered or saved 12 Dobermans over the past 20 years. 4 of them became our family dogs. I never paid anything except an occasional pound or Rescue fee. They have all been magnificent ambassadors for the breed. I lost 2 of my own to DCM. My first rescue Kabahr lived to be 14 years old, the last two that passed Chesty and Max (2 weeks ago) passed from DCM. It’s heartbreaking to lose them- but the happiness, loyalty,and joy they bring when they are with us, rivals everything else.

[@luisr6377]

I have a Plotthound mix I swear he’s mixed with Doberman. He’s a great dog , protector, active, fast as any dog I’ve ever owned and high energy. The traits of Doberman seems to be in em, but my next dog will def be a Doberman

[@sharonmontano4924]

Lucky you! Pllott hounds are hard to find!

[@beckyshell4649]

My Doberman was a free dog,some one dumped her off on my aunt. She was my favorite dog ever . She was so smart and well behaved and would have messed up someone trying to hurt me but was calm and non aggressive otherwise. I didn’t really need a serious working dog type . She looked to be full blooded but I don’t know or really care . She lived until around 12 years old .

[@jeanpernarelli846]

Dogs and money shouldn’t even be said in the same sentence…. Dogs love unconditionally no matter what their price is. Your dog is your best friend and companion,he will never,willingly leave you for someone else.. Dogs are actually angels in our lives.. Does not matter the breed or what cost what.. just love them…

[@thepostofficeprince8819]

Dogs cost money though

[@MiVidaBellisima]

That’s cute and all but not realistic. Sometimes people buy dogs to serve a purpose. For example, a service dog is not free despite deserving all the love

[@jonigarciajg]

We have an almost 6month old rescue $120 adoption fee which included spaying. We got the embark testing and she 40% great pry, 26%akita, and 34%german Shepard. She's beautiful and so sweet, and already over 50lbs.

[@Hi_Im_Akward]

Typically what you should look for in a breeder when you decide to pay a higher pricetag, you should look for what they are doing with their dogs. Not only matching dogs up for personality, balance and genetic diversity. But also what they are doing with the puppies. This includes genetic testing, health testing (which is not the same as a vet exam or genetic testing. It will test for common disorders in the breed its super important), but also socializing and desensitization. This can include exposure to "puppy playgrounds" like ball pits and ramps and things like that. But it's also very early life handling. The sooner they are handled, moved around, touched everywhere and learn that human skin is more sensitive than dog skin. Temperment testing is also a very big one. Puppies go through a lot of stages but there is professional temperment testing that can be done. They test loud noises, strangers, strange dogs, food guarding etc. These are early signs to a breeder what the temperment of a dog is and a good breeder will take this into account when homing a dog, but will also pull a dog and not sell it if it turns out to have an undesirable temperment and they will not breed that dog. In addition, they should be keeping their puppies longer. 8 weeks is honestly the minimum and its a bit too early. It's right after they've been weaned and they should honestly stay with the breeder until about 10-12 weeks. This gives them A LOT more socializing and practice with mom and siblings and is SUPER important for puppies to learn bite inhibition from them. There are just some things that only mom and siblings can teach and puppies taken too early are at an even higher increased risk of reduced bite inhibition as an adult dog. This means that they are more likely to use their mouth to bite and tell people and other dogs they don't like something with a bite instead of using body language or growling. And they are more likely to bite without warning. This goes for ANY breed. I dont know that breeder specifically, but 3k sounds kind of high, especially since they didn't do genetic testing and let the dogs go home at 8 weeks. Idk what else they are doing with their dogs. Its worth asking in depth questions like this. It will tell you the value of the dog and breeding program more so than the price take. A good breeder can cost anywhere from 800-2000 from what I've seen. They will prioritize different things depending on the breed. (For example a hunting dog might be desensitized to gunshots from an early age). It can vary also if there are more medical expenses or a rare color or something. But it's important to know the breed standards. You can go by ACK or UKC. UKC is a bit more leanant on color. For example parti poodles are accepted in UKC. There is no genetic problems with parti color but AKC finds it "undesirable". However some breeds should not have meral coloring and double meral can cause a lot of genetic issues so if a breed doesnt carry meral and someone is selling that breed in meral their breeding program might not care about genetics or the dog is not pure bred like they say. It's super easy to get scammed so do your research. As for back yard breeders, I agree don't automatically discount them but it can also be a bit of a gamble. Look at the parents, look at the siblings, look at the behavior, and try to get dogs from someone who lets the dog go home AFTWR 8 weeks and at least has gotten a check up and first round of shots. Its the bare minimum honestly.

[@mateicristi2524]

Their friendship is priceless

[@proclivities460]

I knew about heart probs with Dobies but the liver thing and the genetic testing thing I had no idea about! So great you added that info. And really sad about the death of Cooper. You're probably saving a lot of little dobies lives by letting everyone know about that though

[@dottyk1637]

Copper hepatopathy, affects the liver, copper levels build up in liver and causes toxicity. Treatment, especially if early diagnosised, may prolong life.

[@RevoltingRudi]

my dad got a pure breed giant schnauzer for 300€ with full papers and very good rated parents. basically a steal. got cancer on the paws but made it to 11. rip "little mouse"

[@johnhead2633]

I have 2 female German shepherds exact same parents and 2 years apart. They are probably as differnt as your 2 if not more. Both are protective but one is so much more intense. One likes to play alot more the other plays but not nearly as much. They just have 2 differnt personalities.

[@lauraacosta413]

Sorry for you loss cooper awesome doggie

[@turbolag98]

Best $20 dollars I’ve spend was buying my first dog on a road trip to Oregon. She lived 15 years and weighed 105 pounds. RIP SNOW WHITE 😘

[@osiris654]

$20? Wow. More stories for us please?

[@loneranger5349]

My free Akita best one I ever owned I've paid up to $3,500 the cheapest was $500 he was my favorite. High price is a scam ask yourself how much you worth or the price difference between your kids.

[@disneymumau]

I'm saving up for a doberman. Just an amazing dog. Very protective which is a reason why as a single mum of 2 young kids I decided go go with this breed for many reasons.

[@Emmms-kf4rl]

Just bought a 300 doberdane at 11 months he is well trained walks on my hip, and doesn’t go further than 10 feet away. Such a loving and loyal breed

[@terrymoser2028]

I truly don't believe that the personality of any animal can be determined by price. That goes for humans as well!

[@DobermanPlanet]

So true, Terry!

[@lenitaa7938]

A number of breeds have show and working lines! They look somewhat different! The working lines, typically have longer legs, slimmer, shorter hair, much more energetic and stronger prey drive, or whatever their breed was created for! The show dog line will often be stockier, calmer, not as driven, etc! Better as a Pet! English Lab vs American Lab, is a great example! The Labrador, German Shepherds, Spaniels, etc all have these divisions! Typically, a breeder will either breed a show breed dog or a working breed line dogs! You can find the videos on KZbin talking about this!

[@h4l414]

Have a $300 gsd that I would not trade for a $30k gsd. Her dad was papered, mom not. Great Dog.

[@ErectkyleDysfunction]

I've only known of Dobies as security dogs lol. Update - I made this comment about a month ago but sure enough I met one yesterday. Big, strong pure bred Doberman by the name of Tyson. He let me feed him treats, and licked my hands for 5 seconds and then backed off like "ok thats enough licking for you". The experience was as amazing as an impromptu bucket list check-off. By the way I did not pet Tyson; Tyson petted me 🥴

[@Balboni12345]

I'm about to buy my first Euro Dobie this weekend from a backyard breeder and hope and pray he lives for a good while because I just had to put down my 12yr old shepherd due to DM and it was the most heart breaking experience of my life 😢 . I'm still depressed from losing him so I hope my new Dobie brings me blessings on blessings for years to come

[@georgiamarasco938]

Thank you for saying exactly what I have been saying for sooooo long. I too had a doberman from a "small" breeder who loved the breed and only wanted to breed their dog twice. And I now have one from a reputable breeder who charged me $3,800 and I saw EXACTLY the same behaviors in my dogs that you mentioned. I actually preferred the first one's calmer personality more than the one I have now. My first one lived to be ten years old by the way. I stated this comparison on a couple of doberman groups and got sooo much mean, negative responses from "reputable" breeders but I'm sticking to my opinion. So make sure that the breeder cares about the breed, doesn't over breed for the money, and for gosh sakes, make sure that they are not puppy mills and don't turn away from the "small" breeders. Both of my dogs where wonderful family members.

[@eeroala5132]

I agree with you. What he described in the video made the $600 dog seem like a much better dog than the $3000 dog.

[@lorawhite4958]

The dufference you described is a personality changes

[@durere]

So basically what you're saying is the difference was their zodiac signs.

[@Dad_at_50]

Ya I feel a lot of what he is saying could be chalked up to their personality not their breeding or price. I’ve had 2 back yard dobies and both completely different personalities and genetics issues 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ritakonig1891]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bikeenjoyer977]

Genuine question: Why don't people just rescue dogs? You can get a cool pup for like $100

[@die4be1]

I have always watched all your videos with great interest and you did a really great job, but this disappointed me a bit, the character difference between Cooper and the current one is not in the price, even in a breeding puppy in the same litter there are working puppies, for show, and for family, it is up to the breeder to recognize and consequently sell the puppies to the right people, for the rest it is always correct to buy from a breeder, to keep the breed under control ..... PS in italy with less than 2000 $ you can buy the son of the idc world champion 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Niafytb]

I bought a German Shephard/Pit Mix on Craigslist for $650. He was only 6 weeks so small and I wasn’t even sure if he was the breed the claimed. 4 years later he has grown into a lovely playful and energetic gentleman. He’s good with kids, dogs and stranger with barely any training, never showed any signs of aggression ever. Not to mention he trains super fast and is very intelligent. He’s about 85lbs rn and he’s still playing like a puppy. I love my baby Oreo best $650 I’ve spent yet.

[@judywillis7985]

Price really doesn’t matter, every dog is different even if they’re the same breed. It’s up to the owner how the pup will turn out. Also when you get super fancy purebred dogs they’re wayyyyy more likely to have genetic issues. I’m a huge fan of mutts lol, sometimes you can get the best traits of several breeds!!

[@jeffk464]

Or the worst, my brother adopted a mutt puppy that is the sweetest dog every. Unfortunately he is plagued by health problems. Allergies and bad joints mostly, severe under-bite. Seems like lots of skeletal problems from the parents being very structurally different dogs.

[@triggerhappy9483]

Mutts are extremely unpredictable and are more likely to end up in shelters. Honestly we need to stop breeding mutts & mixes and just stick to ethical purebred breeding.

[@mavel2038]

It definitely does. So does health testing. So does lines. So does how they're reared early on. Breed traits are genetics. Hundreds of years of selective breeding. No, "super fancy wellbred dogs" are not more likely to have health issues. A 3k "European" hypertype is going to be just as unhealthy as a 1k BYB dog.

[@dogzentraining]

Nothing wrong with saying “budget dog” 😂 we’ve got 3 dogs: a FREE rescue Italian stray, a €50 rescued Belgian Malinois x tal-fenek (pharaoh hound), and a £2500 Czechoslovakian Wolfdog from an ethical breeder. The Czech wolfdog is by far the healthiest of the 3. The free Italian stray has the best temperament of any dog I’ve met, after working professionally with dogs for 10 years (though he suffers from occasional seizures)! The Malinois x is one of the most temperamental and troublesome dogs I’ve ever met (sent a housemate to hospital for stitches within a month of adopting him). We do love him, but he has temperament issues. He’s improved massively since adoption, but good training can only do so much with a poor temperament. Make sure you choose the right dog for you! The Czech wolfdog has the right genetics and a good upbringing, and is the fastest learner and most adaptable of the three! Even though wolves don’t typically like changes to their environment, with the right handling he was able to adapt to us very quickly. ❤ I’m so sorry to hear that you paid $3000 for a dobie with two copies of the DCM gene! That seems quite negligent on the breeders behalf!! Especially for that price 😢 We won’t neuter our Czech boy because neutering has terrible effects especially in male dogs. The other two were already neutered when I adopted them. The Malinois was neutered at 6 months (way too early!!) and I believe this had a big effect on his overall temperament.

[@petedog9581]

Did Arlo have another dog in the home when you got him? Having another dog in the house definitely helps a new dog become well-adjusted quicker and understand the role in the pack. All dogs do have unique temperaments and personalities that are from genetic factors, for sure. Sorry for your loss of Cooper.

[@Aloysius_OHare]

I feel like money has no say in this. Dogs just have their own personalities.🥺 but they so cute

[@dooglitas]

I just have to shake my head when I hear you say that $600 is a budget dog. I could not afford to pay $600, let alone $3000. My Doberman was an abandoned dog who just showed up at my house in the country. I have no idea where he came from or his genetics. He does get a skin condition every year in the spring/summer. My dog is chocolate brown. I think they call that color variety "red" for some reason. He has no papers or anything, but I love him just the same.

[@forrestbondurant1911]

In the 90s got my Doberman pup from Kimber tall Kennel. He was everything one could want in a Doberman.

[@scottgriffin2005]

My only doberman was a cheep backyard dog but she was loyal, sweet and her health was fairly good. She lasted about 6 years. BTW I have had a least one dog in my home for about 60 years, and my Doberman was one of the best.

[@sheilagarza7179]

I've had 4 Dobermans. The first 3 were given to us for free. The breeder was a friend. The current Doberman I have was bought from a person that was trying to start up a Doberman breeding business. She didn't know anything about the breed and she only had 2 puppies left from a litter of 9. The rest had died. They were kept outside in the cold without much shelter. She thought that because they were big dogs that they would be okay outside. Plus she never got their tails docked and dew claws removed. I was able to talk her into selling me a puppy for $100 as that was all I had in my pocket. The puppies were sick and not socialized. As soon as I got the puppy I took her immediately to the vet. She was half the weight she should have been and infested with parasites. It took over a thousand dollars and several weeks to get her to good health. She is now almost 10 years old and very content with her life. She loves children and loves to socialize with people. Only one of my Dobermans died before they turned 13. She caught a illness that took her life at the age of 4. Still miss her.

[@dobermanfreak2a112]

Still don’t understand how you continue to brag on your breeder being Arlo has a 48% COI as well as being lied to about parents being DCM clear. Just blows me away.

[@rconn4501]

I've ONLY had mixed breeds. They're the absolute best! Always healthy, smart, active & loyal!

[@uncannycanislupuslovlygzk7230]

This video probably made a lot of people want to buy a puppy from a backyard breeder. 😂😂😂

[@juliorosenberg2222]

When I was 18 I purchased 2 supposedly great genetic doberman pinschers from 2 different breeder's in 1988. I raised and bred them they were excellent family guard dog's what was what I sold the puppies for at $950 each back then. I always had more buyer's than dog's

[@fooshpoof]

Guys keep in mind these are living beings who have their own personalities lmao not everything is due to pricing they are literally individuals

[@swampduck2609]

My German Shepherd was from a backyard breeder in Chicago and he is almost 10 and is an amazing dog. I couldn’t ask for a better friend

[@ChristineJump]

Thank you. I've had 4 dobermans and your video was still very informative for me. My current dobie was just diagnosed with DCM. In the future I'll do genetic testing. I was oblivious about the importance of genetic diversity. I've subscribed and look forward to learning more from your channel.

[@carlosgonzales2394]

A big part of the cost associated with a well bred dog is not just their genetic makeup but how they were raised those first 8 weeks. That time is a very important period in the life of a puppy. It takes a lot of knowledge, time and energy to ensure a whole litter of puppies are set up for success in life.

[@jwreagan]

My first doberman was from a very reputable breeder. We drove all the way to Quincy, IL to go look and be interviewed. I did not pick my first doberman, she picked me. All the pups running around the yard, and the one in the blue collar walked up to me and followed me around the yard. I went looking for a male, but the breeder even noticed it. She wound up selling me the one she said she had intended to be her next dam, and worked up a pet contract for her. The follow up surprise visit she nearly cried that she made me spay her... said she wished she had just put provisions for me to breed (was not interested, I was 16, the dog was a gift for getting moved out to the sticks middle of high school) She cost $600 back in the 90s. My second doberman was a gift. A friend who had got a doberman BECAUSE of my first doberman being such a good ambassador for the breed, decided to breed hers to fill the doberman shaped hole in my heart. It worked a little, my second doberman was amazing as well. Now, I have to try to find a doberman breeder that is not going to want an arm and a leg (although they are worth it) Here is link to a video with my first doberman in it (she walks funny, lots of surgeries after a nasty spider bite :( but she survived) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaa5kJpubLJ5ns0