How Narcissistic Abuse Transforms Your Spiritual Beliefs

[@vicki_nelson3]

You are one of the few that really understands this kind of abuse and mixed with faith

[@hewhofightsforgodeveryman3942]

Molly Baldwin founder of roca 😨👁️👁️👉🏼

[@orangecat1672]

@@vicki_nelson3 Agree. You’ll never find more narcissism than in the church. My father in law is a pastor & he takes the cake. Now I fully understand what Christ meant when he spoke of wolves in sheep’s clothing . God be with you .

[@shaeholden1743]

Oh my goodness! Every word you spoke is what I experienced. The pastor's wife told me to be a martyr for Christ. 😐 At the point of considering suicide, I finally started using the brain God gave me to leave my narc ex. Yes, I have such deeper concept of good and evil now and my walk with Christ has matured. My goodness, you are good - THANK YOU! 😊

[@valerieriggins3184]

They Practically Teach You Out Of Using Your Own Mind....They Want Control Of IT. YOU Be Confused Listening To Them.

[@GoFishOffice]

Thank you for all the videos you do to help us

[@koolbeans8292]

I didn't realize I grew up with narcissistic abuse until I was 59. That was eight years ago. What a revelation! I've been studying these KZbin narcissistic channels, since then, mainly the comments. I realized at that time anyone that got up and walked away from the family gossip table were talked about. I quit going to AA meetings because the rooms are filled with those personalities. That was my own demise. Now I'm back in there and stronger because I know who they are! I have a eliminated lot of those personalities including siblings and parents out of my life the last eight years. And I am not nice about it. I have embarrassed myself doing it. All I want in life mainly is a nice lady to take care of. But I have this angry streak, stemming from that neglect from narcissistic abuse as a child. When we are young, we tolerate that because we're not sure what it is, and can throw it over our shoulder. Not now, not ever, in my presence,

[@rubybegonia7052]

Right on ! ❤

[@nick8252]

Wow, extremely insightful! You have definitely awoken. I agree 💯

[@carlenewozniak5225]

I started Hating... And I didn't like the way it made me feel! That's when I had enough!

[@mageeherman784]

You're telling my life's story.

[@LindaStokes-ff2kv]

Thank you for this message I really needed to hear this ❤

[@ahhfshealthandwellness3056]

Thank you for talking about God and faith. ❤

[@jentbotbfa]

This is refreshing. This exact topic has been on my heart since I left my ex AND my church. There is so much more in the bible than Jesus is love and turn the other cheek…

[@divinelightlounge]

I truly understand this battle with faith that results... beautiful message 👑

[@dardalyn6374]

Kevin, you kicked it out of the park today! The answer you gave me regarding Cain murdering Abel! You confirmed my journey a lot today thank you. No more a man pleaser for sure. I set my own table and am very careful whom I ask to join. Blessings forward You rock!

[@JoshuaMitchek-ur4jt]

Wow, you are spot on! I was married to a narcissistic woman that i met at a christian conference. After 3 years of abuse i finally had enough and got mad and questioned everything. Left mans religion, found my Hebrew Roots, began developing my relationship with The Most High, and eventually got a restraining order against my abusive wife. My life was pure agony, and now I have peace. HallelYah! Shalom

[@Elijah_DBRM37]

Very much on point 💯 Daniel and friends refused to bow down to the narcissistic king of Babylon, and yet they gained the king's favour. This is why it is important to study both the old testament and the new testament to have an accurate understanding of what God's love is. Love doesn't always mean tender, sometimes it has to be tough and with the iron fist too.

[@Sub_901]

Justice and love go hand in hand. People shy away from "Mean Ol' Testament" God and much prefer the artificial prosperity "god". Jesus isn't some hippie in Birkenstocks telling us to chill. We cannot have peace without justice and love without discipline. It took me way too long to grasp that lol!

[@Sub_901]

When I delved into the Bible's context - especially with Heiser's studies, I was absolutely blown away. So much gets glossed over and misinterpreted. But if we truly intend to KNOW the scriptures, He will actually help you understand more. It's a beautiful, intimate connection that no church can provide.

[@jatins4966]

100% relatable. Stayed away and ran from all temptations all my life and then got stuck with a narcissist. All because of those crazy teachings in church.

[@elizabethgassman5387]

Can’t place your trust in what people say, includes church. It is up to each individual soul to read the Bible and pray for wisdom. It is also our responsibility to question if what is said doesn’t seem to agree with the Bible….

[@valerieriggins3184]

Once You Catch On To The EVIL Devices.....Can Pretty Much Use Your OWN Common SENSE To Decern Between RIGHT vs Wrong. Because The Bible Is Written By Men And Tampered To Fit Certain Selfish AGENDAS 💯

[@jatins4966]

@@elizabethgassman5387 When you are young, you need mentors. Even prophet samuel when He heard the Lord's voice needed Eli's experience to understand what that was. Now when I am grown, I need counsellors and not mentors. Now I know the word with clarity and can discern. Back then it was like, how can I challenge the authority of the one whom God had appointed over me....

[@Birdie-m8o]

💯 ​@@elizabethgassman5387

[@koolbeans8292]

Normalizing abnormal behavior in our younger lives!

[@Avashaw-s6v]

Amen to the zero tolerances... I practice the same principle's...

[@BR-cd2cl]

Kevin out of the park! Thanks So glad to see the ancient Jewish texts a source of life being studied and used to guide !

[@pamelakenny248]

I can still hear my Grandma say “Jesus says to turn the other cheek when someone is hurting you”, every time my brother picked a fight with me when we were little. My family helped create a covert narcissist. My whole life I have been dealing with my brother’s narcissistic abuse until I went “no contact” 3 years ago. And I know Jesus is not mad at that! Thank you Kevin for another great message!

[@shaeholden1743]

@@pamelakenny248 may the Lord continue to bless you. 😊

[@orangecat1672]

@@pamelakenny248 Good for you !! No contact is the best way to peace ( if one is able to) ❤️

[@victoryamartin9773]

Good words. I am going through a crisis of faith right now, having been hijacked, terrorized, threatened, and overpowered for the last 9 months by self-declared "Mature Christian Ministers" I let come into my house as guests.

[@lo-ul8nq]

So very True 👍

[@koolbeans8292]

Narcissistic personality is the same personality of the gang, and the bystanders that put Jesus on the cross!

[@editfarkas333]

Typically ans sadly antichrist spirit.

[@lisamarie62525]

It was because of alcoholism and narcissistic abuse that I found faith. My sponsor and I worked the 12 steps through al-anon. It was the best decision I made on this path to recovery. My ex husband was very upset that I even attended those meetings.

[@valerieriggins3184]

Well NARCS Don't Want You Delivered That's For SURE!

[@aseasonalname1421]

This sounds similar to what I experienced. I began to drink heavily to cope with the relationship and when I finally decided to quit and it finally stuck, I went to AA meetings. I didn’t tell my husband I was going right away. When I decided to tell him I was going he got angry with me about going and not telling him I was going. He continued to bring in alcohol into the house, drank every night and said he didn’t have a problem it was only me who did. I started going back to the roots of my faith and he eventually told me he was sorry for who I became and said I was going down an “unhealthy path” believing in conspiracies. Called me a Bible thumper etc. I finally got out of that marriage but the divorce has been dragging out because he wants to make my life miserable I guess. At least I don’t live with him anymore.

[@lisamarie62525]

@aseasonalname1421 wow that sounds about the same for me as well. I'm just grateful to be free and have peaceful home now. Sorry to hear you went through this or are still currently going through it.

[@rubybegonia7052]

@@aseasonalname1421More power to you .

[@monaj33]

Love that you are so passionate and caring...❤ thank you so much 😊

[@rosalynzografos]

You have helped me understand and work through decades of narc abuse. Thank you!

[@editfarkas333]

Jesus was humble and meek yes, and told us to be like him, to learn from him that He is meek and humble, yet he didn't let Himself fooled by hypocracy and fakeness of the religous leaders, He saw through them and spoke against them. We must have discernment and follow the Spirit of God.

[@onyinyeojiako8578]

I was just going through this right now and your page Poped up.

[@feliciawashington6385]

You’re talking to me.

[@rooneytn]

Oh wow. I needed this.

[@SheynaVVV]

I'm living proof

[@kathiehamerik3063]

Amen Kevin💕

[@staciehulm4595]

My experience with the narcissist strengthened my faith in Jesus as my Savior. I chose to be with the narcissists in my life despite my better judgement. I knew deep down something wasn't right, but I ignored that stirring of the Holy Spirit because I loved the initial flattery. I was a people pleaser. I became addicted to the ups and downs and the magical thinking. The narcissitic abuse pattern only works if you choose to actively participate in it. Eventually, I could see this pattern as exactly Satan's strategy in the Bible. Satan is the Father of Lies and the Author of Confusion. He is the ultimate narcissist wanting to replace God, winning people with flattery and half truths then using our own narcissism against us. If Satan exists, God exists and we need to be saved from Satan and ourselves. Only One offers the free gift of salvation from these things through His victory over Satan, sin and death: the Messiah, Jesus Christ. If Satan tried to get me to doubt my faith by attacking me with narcissism, he failed completely. God redeemed these trials in my life as part of my sanctification. I once was blind, but now I see.

[@Sub_901]

It's interesting that we understand wholeheartedly what Evil is and does. But, we are always asking "Is there a God?" I guess that is the point though. To question His very existence, let alone learn to rely upon Him, is exactly what the demonic wants. But, you are so right: The devil is a big fail. And he knows it.

[@LeslieGonzalez-t5z]

Another amazing insight from Kevin here!!👍👍🙂

[@koolbeans8292]

Same narcissistic crowd that put Jesus on the cross

[@charlenerhoda2024]

Thank you Kevin for a very needed video. Everything you spoke of was spot on and so similar to my own experience. My faith was broken apart as I began to learn how I was in a toxic relationship with my mom, but God was faithful to teach me His ways. I’ve been enjoying the freedom in Christ movement, including Andrew Farley -Grace Church and Matt Mcmillon ministries. God Bless you Kevin

[@vivianeprudentiabuelens9142]

I can’t take this no more Kevin ! I been having panic attacks and in Belgium 🇧🇪they don’t understand what I am talking ABOUTH! Thanks for all the input bu😊t everyone is turned against me ! 3:13

[@777cieloazul]

So happy to see *REBUILDING* in today's title. Hope you will do more related to this challenging phase of the journey. Thank you! ❤

[@editfarkas333]

Thank you, Kevin. God bless you.

[@nick8252]

Excellent video!! 👍 Spot on! My personal notes... 6:15 11:30 12:08 2:45

[@annai3394]

I was very religious but after years being married to narc I became depressed anxious and almost possessed. I guess some narcs themselves are possessed by devils. And I have theory that through sexual act they affect us in negative way, maybe somehow they devil is spreading their darkness on you. I used to feel that, don’t know if other survivors can relate.

[@Sub_901]

I relate! Thank you for sharing. We know about spirit ties, so it's not a far stretch to assume that ill intentions find their way into what we think are loving, intimate moments. What a cruel and insidious invasion. I hope you are healing.

[@SweetE1403]

Wow I need to listen to this channel more

[@saviano12]

Well said

[@vivianeprudentiabuelens9142]

It. Is critical ‼️ 12:10

[@krystal3822]

Thank you

[@gloriacoleman7012]

You find yourself stepping back ,no one knows what you are going througth , Iwas told I was exsagarting ,had not got over the past I did not have a high intelligence, but Ifelt the holy spirit with me as Ido this day,the devil can not read minds but God knows the hearts of men. He that is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

[@rudolfvanooijen]

The question that I had yesterday was, will God The Father will be angry with 'me after going no contact with my narc parents and family...

[@auditat]

Good

[@treelover1050]

CHURCH CAN'T HELP US WITH THIS.

[@americawaters4257]

We are the church. 👍🙂

[@franmcdonald4702]

The church refused to help. they just said, "keep loving him." The abuse continued.😢

[@lo-ul8nq]

​​@@franmcdonald4702I got the same thing from Pastors from different churches. all they told me is to pray, to love them, and to deal with it. I done all that . I still get abuse from Narcissists.

[@staciehulm4595]

If you're a believer in Jesus Christ, you are the Church. Use your knowledge to strengthen your brothers and sisters in Christ. They need you.

[@americawaters4257]

@@franmcdonald4702 I'm guilty of that. Friends came to me a lot for comfort and advice. I didn't go to church but I was close to God and read my Bible for years and years. God showed me beautiful things and I shared it with those around me. I was married to my first love and he talked about God and we seemed close, to me and to others, so they trusted my help. I always said, "God hates divorce, so please try to work it out". I wasn't cruel or heartless. I didn't condone bad behavior, I just wanted them to try working on it. Now, I know that there are actual psychopath's all around us. They can even appear as light. After 35 years my husband started slipping up and a mask fell off. He lost it when exposed. Admitted that he never wanted to live for God every day and that love is basically stupid. He had been robbing me blind behind my back. I had to start all over. I'm still not divorced, I just protect myself now. I don't want anyone else, so I'm good with my real Husband, Jesus. I pray that God helps him. It's right to keep loving, but do it from afar. I'm really sorry that happened to you. I didn't know better.

[@elisabethwyndaele5912]

Normal I 💭

[@elisabethwyndaele5912]

You’re so wright😅

[@treelover1050]

RIGHT.

[@melliecrann-gaoth4789]

Therapy abuse i lost my faith while living in an intensely covert abusive home.

[@susancarter3864]

Yeah, God does NOT want us hanging around devils, unless you’re trying to convert them into Christianity otherwise turn away from them. 2 Timothy 3-4

[@jeanette5301]

You can't believe everything you read and hear or see on tv... Try looking at everything then decide for yourself

[@orangecat1672]

I’m curious Kevin , how you worked this out with your wife ? I have gone NC w my in laws since February.. basically my husband attends the obligatory visits to them ( mostly holidays / birthdays not too often ) on his own now wo me. He won’t admit it , but I know it’s awkward for him. A part of me feels bad .. but he fully realizes how messed up they are & doesn’t give me a hard time for staying home . But quite honestly , I would love nothing more than for him to go NC too. I question if I’m being selfish .. I’m just to a point now in life that I won’t sacrifice my peace of mind for anything or anyone. Still though , it makes navigating the holidays difficult when one spouse is still in contact , & the other isn’t .

[@jointhefun4]

Please talk about misogyny and narcissism is the same

[@fionagrant2023]

Kevin l wish we were friends ❤

[@kat-75]

I can't really say that I lost faith, even in people, I'm not thinking I ever had any faith in people. Some whistleblowers is about it for faith that they know what is wrong. My faith is fully intact in Jesus Christ and his Holy Angels. They have no idea of the strength he has regardless of my damage.

[@luvbug7179]

❤❤❤

[@katyasehryn8810]

What do you go though when you grow up in a Narc home that is also Christian?

[@monika44k78]

Watch Kris Reece

[@snarkysunshine]

For metaphors and see description in chatgpt 1. **Narcissistic Black Hole**: - **Nature**: Consumes the emotional energy and validation of others, similar to how a black hole pulls in light and matter. This relentless consumption can deplete those around them. 2. **Empath as the Sun**: - **Nature**: Provides warmth, support, and emotional light. This makes them vulnerable to the black hole's consuming nature, as their open and nurturing demeanor can be easily drained. 3. **Dark Empath as the Black Sun**: - **Nature**: Has a complex emotional makeup, blending warmth with detachment. They understand and may manipulate emotions but do not offer the same level of direct validation as the empathic sun. This complexity makes them more challenging for the narcissistic black hole to exploit, as their emotional responses are less predictable and more guarded. 4. **Spiritual Empath as the Universe**: - **Nature**: Possesses a profound inner depth and sense of interconnectedness. Their expansive, self-sustaining inner world provides them with resilience and a strong sense of self. This makes them less vulnerable to the narcissistic black hole’s attempts to drain or manipulate, as their fulfillment and strength come from within and are not reliant on external validation. In summary: - **Narcissistic black holes** thrive on the emotional energy of more open and validating individuals (the empathic sun). - They find **dark empaths** challenging because of their guarded and complex emotional responses. - They cannot easily overpower or deplete **spiritual empaths** due to the latter's expansive, self-contained, and resilient inner universe. Black hole is powerful but remember black hole can't consume all entire of universe.. So we need to create universe inside us in our spiritual journey..

[@hewhofightsforgodeveryman3942]

Molly Baldwin founder of roca

[@andron967]

Of course my beliefs changed. They are models and not perfect truths. I will resist seeing beliefs as truth. That includes religions, cults and my own perception.

[@vivianebuelens9512]

Thad is interesting ……! 12:11

[@Birdie-m8o]

How do we move forward during V2K & does it ever stop?

[@Birdie-m8o]

😢😮

[@ZOELIFE23-365]

INDEED. THEY SHOW ME WHAT I DO NOT WANT TO BE- NO DEMON. I WANT TO BE LIKE MY CREATOR... BECAUSE THATS WAT IS ALL ABOUT-LOVE AND HELPING HUMANITYSO THANKS NARC, LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO CRUCIFIED JESUS, THEY DIDNT KNOW THAT THEY WERE ELEVATING HIM, FULLFILLING PROPHESY... THEY ARE NOT ONLY HATERS BUT CRASH DUMMIES Psalm 110:1🔼 Of David. A psalm. The LORD says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”