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#Negima #AnAkamatsuJoint #ScrewFunimation

[@TheDigitalApple]

Can’t wait for Snakes future video of *How not to write a story* (stares at NRS writing)

[@BusinessZeus]

How not to structure a review *NOSTALGIA CRITIC* oh god

[@TheDigitalApple]

@@BusinessZeus Great now I have To Boldy Flee credits theme in my head.

[@BusinessZeus]

@@TheDigitalApple no problem

[@DontStopMeGaLo]

@@BusinessZeus *GENIUS*

[@BusinessZeus]

@@DontStopMeGaLo no

[@hbhbhbgiuhihdsvdvdvs3050]

never in my life did i expect to see a video about negima without actively searching for it. sat here in shock for like 20 seconds seeing this in my sub box

[@legionbeast]

This feels disturbingly similar to the adaptation of Kinnikuman Nisei. For context, in the original Kinnikuman storyline, one of the earlier arcs involved Robin Mask (a british wrestler wearing a knight's helmet) gaining something of a Heel persona because he "lost by fluke" to Kinnikuman and notably, got his helmet damaged with a massive gash in it during said fight with Kinnikuman. It was seemingly written off later since Robin Mask and Kinnikuman became friends later on. However, in Kinnikuman Nisei, a series focusing on the children of the wrestlers of the original Kinnikuman, Kevin Mask ends up in the wrestling championship and is set to face Mantaro, son of Kinnikuman. Kevin feels the "grudge" of Kinnikuman vs Mask was never settled and the Mask family was "shamed" since they never won another wrestling championship. Now in the manga, Kevin and Mantaro fight and Mantaro is cocky because he's "always pulled out a win" often seemingly through dumb luck or his opponent underestimating his buffoonery, but it was actually because Mantaro showcased friendship and compassion, which is the source of the Kinnikuman bloodline power; fighting for someone other than yourself. In the fight with Kevin, Mantaro couldn't get over his petty emotions with Kevin from much earlier in the manga and Kevin takes advantage of it and ends up winning the wrestling championship by beating Mantaro. Kevin, however, feels hollow and isn't sure this was what he was supposed to do, and it's only when he sees Mantaro struggling to get back up and he goes over to help him, ignoring his pride and the family grudge that he sees that the feud was all in his head. THIS is important as it sets Mantaro straight on needing to realize how important friendship and kinship is to the bloodline of Kinnikuman, but feels he let everyone down, not because he lost, but because he wasn't a real friend to everyone who needed him. In the anime, which went through development hell, they erroneously changed the outcome of the fight to have Mantaro beat Kevin with a move he didn't use until much later in the manga, and Kevin doesn't forgive Mantaro or the Kinnikuman bloodline, and only drops his grudge when Warsman (a family friend to the Mask family) basically spells out the history of the two families and then the anime ends there. By having it end that way, Mantaro is not shamed the way he was supposed to be to be put in his place and Kevin isn't given a resolution to his grudge, making for incredibly unsatisfying finale.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Fuck I need add Kinnikuman Nisei into my future reading list.

[@legionbeast]

@@shadowclaw7210 It's really good, though I'm personally glad the writers are going on to do a sorta semi retcon back with OG Kinnikuman continuing after the Scramble for the Throne arc.

[@abadidea5984]

There was a point in time where Negima was my absolute obsession. I never did finish it (I dropped off at some point while the series was making the slow transition towards the Magical World), but I did love every bit of it that I read. Which is why I was *glad* to know that skipping the anime was a good call. There used to be debates about which anime was better between Xebec's original Negima and Shaft's Negima!?, and people would *defend* Xebec's Negima for its "accuracy". Granted, Shaft's Negima!? chose to go in a COMPLETELY different direction, but to say Xebec's Negima was "true to the source material" is an outright lie, considering how badly volumes 4-6 were botched, as well as the "Asuna Fucking Dies" filler ending that rushed out to give every single student a Pactio at the last moment. People also insisted that Xebec's Negima had "more fanservice", which was ALSO plainly untrue; even the ecchi scenes they lifted STRAIGHT from the manga were so watered down that you'd find more spice in a bar of soap (naturally, being Shaft, Negima!? was also superior to Xebec's Negima in the fanservice department). Of course my obsession eventually did lead me to the Negima Live Action J-drama, and *oh boy*. I only lasted about 5 episodes before dropping that one for good. You couldn't miss the mark HARDER than the live action show did, in terms of Negima's energy and spirit. For one thing, the lighting and the set they used for Mahora Academy was REALLY dull and depressing-looking at all times, and there was at least one person crying in EVERY episode (I dunno if that's just a thing with J-dramas???). Fuck, there was even an episode about Kaede and the twins, and THEY start crying in the middle of it.

[@The4thSnake]

"This doll was discarded by it's owner. I cry."

[@Rough_Estimates]

You should tackle the Yakuza franchise specifically 4, 5, and the ending of 6

[@DrakeVagabond]

A friend of mine was into Negima and from watching the anime I could not for the life of me understand why. Reversely, he couldn't understand why I was into Ikki Tousen from watching the anime.

[@The4thSnake]

Honestly, I did too, somehow. Fortunately, the manga is way better.

[@Prince-Shogun]

Wow! That's a great analysis snake!

[@hatoru17]

Well now thanks to this video I can't tell which anime adaptation that completely divulge from the Manga version is worse: Rosario Vampire or Negima.

[@bobjeezorham7658]

Oh my God I thought I was one of the only people that saw this anime. My brother always had some volumes of the manga but I never read it since I never learned how to correctly read manga. This will be an interesting watch.

[@Xertaron.]

I have absolutely no idea what you were talking about for the last 10 minutes. And i enjoyed every second of it :D

[@Ineedgames]

We will never get an animated Negi vs Rakan.

[@The4thSnake]

Was it not in the last set of OVAs?

[@RavensEagle]

Always heard about negima but never really took the time read it. Kinda feels like I missed out ngl.

[@gryffehondor4236]

It's actually a genuinely interesting manga 'cause the author got ropped into making a harem slice of life while he really wanted to do a battle manga... and he eventually gets his way, with one tournament arc leading to the next until a harem of super-powered highschool girls fight demigods to save multiple worlds and timelines. ... Yeah, it gets absolutely ridiculous by the end and it's nothing you've never seen, but the strange mix of ingredients bring a lot of spice to the dish - and it's also very competently written and some of the sceneries are gorgeous.

[@Random30276]

Big relate. I actually did read Love Hina for the plot and not the plot

[@damienlarson4145]

another bad anime adaption is berserk "2016 and 2017" this anime cuts out a lot important arcs from the manga. for example episode 1, this episode adapts the black swordsman arc and skips the lost children arc. they cut scenes from the black swordsman arc like guts killing the female apostle who was the one killed corkus and the other members of the band of the hawk, cutting out the count apostle, the first interdiction of the godhand and guts relationship with Griffith, removing the relationship between guts and puck, and over all how guts is betrayed in the anime. next is episode 2, which adapts a chapter from the manga that came after the lost children arc. okay, listen to this, so Farnese and Serpico appear in the manga and the anime and their after guts in both manga and anime but, with the lost children arc removed Farnese and Serpico don't mean anything in the anime. meanwhile in the manga they have a reason why they're after guts in the first place, because in the manga they were after him because he killed demon children and they thought he was a child murder. there are other plot points from the manga that were removed or were in the anime, but were placed in a different spot in the anime. if you want to learn more about this dumpsters fire of an anime check out cvit's review on both 2016 and 2017. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX6zgqSPdqarnZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ61iGena62FZ68

[@Smackmate]

At least the OP fucking slaps

[@ABSWest]

By the nine divine am i seeing a video talk about negima in 2020?

[@OtakuJuanma2]

I watched both Maho Sensei Negima and Negima!!! as a teen, but i barely remember anything... Except i had a bit of a crush on Evangeline. I remember it getting worse and worse as it went through, and Negima!!! Was just nonsensical "fun" I remember the end was some sort of huge fight against a demon after time traveling. And there EVERYONE makes a pact with Negi out of nowhere.

[@huytungnguyen119]

All in all, this manga didn't have a good record with adaptations.

[@justrashaad3963]

When I first watched the anime I actually liked it but I was young back then and Nodoka was the only thing I cared about in this show, maybe the ghost girl, the vampire chick (I think she was a vampire), and that robot girl as well but that really it. Now that I know Nodoka actually kisses Negi in the manga makes me want to read it now! All I have to say is Nodoka's best girl!

[@GiubileiFernando]

Chisame was the best girl in the manga. Although Nodoka and Yue were also great friends and love interests.

[@justrashaad3963]

@@GiubileiFernando Yikes😬🤣lol TeamNodoka all the way my guy, but I respect your opinion

[@antmane7]

No way I remember these anime’s lol. Watched em in 6th grade

[@julzbananz]

[Insert Otacon quote here]

[@DontStopMeGaLo]

I wish to make my own comics about my "cyber-universe", but everytime, where it comes to thinking about characters and their development, good story and universe itself, I'm getting worried, that I'll ruin everything (just like NRS ruined their stories in Mortal Kombat and Injustice games).

[@MaggotCupcakes]

The promised day have arrived!

[@StarDragonJP]

This makes me think of Black Clover, though it didn't remove anything as far as I can remember, but they definitely started ruining it immediately at the start. The manga initially comes off as generic, with most of the characters feeling like characters we've seen in other series, but the manga succeeds by it's tight pacing, good story & characters. The pacing of the manga is one of it's best points, it's probably the only manga I've ever read where nothing felt extraneous, everything was either furthering the plot or showing character development. The 1st episode literally starts with some filler bs about 2 of the characters as babies & the priest being like "they will be something in the future". Then go onto the 2nd episode where they stretch a single page flashback into half an episode, & then the 3rd episode is completely filler. They seem to use the filler a lot to exaggerate character personality traits making them feel more one dimensional, like when they go to the Witches Forest & they add in a few minutes of Finral flirting with every women they see, while they're running for their lives. So the anime ends up ruining the pacing & characters making them both feel more generic overall.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Yunaaaaaagh

[@TheInfiniteAmo]

I'm sorry, the Negima anime may have been trash, but it was MY trash - and I DID watch it for the fanservice at first. I guess this is a good excuse to go back and read the manga

[@Bigreddog89]

I loved Love Hina. Its my favorite Manga

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Huh. Actually hard to learn from the mistakes of something that makes me want to get a Diffuse Mega Particle Cannon and incinerate it.

[@krystaLuvin]

It should be noted that Chao isn't asking where England is, she's correcting someone else about where on England Negi is from. She's saying WALES England because someone said they liked Whales in response to him saying he's from Wales.

[@saito1001]

And for some reason it's fine to watch UQ Holder when the prequel barely finished.

[@ragingningen6318]

I just noticed MK11's greatest mistake: It doesn't have My boi Tremor #Tremor4MK11

[@michaeldunlap1032]

I think another "adaptive difficulty" episode should be on the novel adaptation of transformers war for cybertron video game known as "transformers exodus" seriously, they changed so much, that it's hard to tell if they're from the same continuity. At least the PRE-war stuff is compatible (espically since they adapted chapter 12 - 15 into a war for cybertron prequel comic.), but the stuff that takes during the war... I'm sorry, but why change certain details, like zeta prime's boss or trypticon's boss?

[@redwolfcorprevamped8266]

Ultimately, this is why I don't watch anime, subbed or dubbed. Period. You can't expect the people who make these shows to honor the source material. I love the first two arcs of Sailor Moon's manga, but I also know just how much the anime in the 90's was botched. Animation errors. Filler Episodes. Blatant Censorship. The abduction of Mars, Mercury and Jupiter in the second arc of the manga is one of the leading motivations for Usagi to stop the black moon. The girls are locked in a veil of darkness, kept as hostages by the black moon to lure Sailor Moon into their base, where they plan to kill her. The girls aren't rescued until about 5/8ths through the arc. In the anime, this abduction scheme takes place over two episodes, Crimson Rubeus abducts all of the girls in one fell swoop instead of each of them being captured in their own separate act (Venus is also captured, even though she doesn't in the manga), these episodes happen BEFORE the sailor guardians head to Nemesis to confront Demande and Wiseman (which has implications because Mars, Mercury and Jupiter don't get to learn that Chibi Usa is Usagi's future daughter in the manga, they do in the anime because the abduction scheme takes place over two episodes), and now, everything is screwed up and I wouldn't watch this trash in a fucking bribe. (Or any other anime for that matter). If it can happen here, (in this case Negima!), It can happen anywhere. Don't buy the dip!

[@whooh]

Wasn't there another Negmia anime? I remember seeing it and liking it better I also remember it looking brighter the the old anime.

[@Wright805]

Yes there was.

[@RandomManIncorperated]

The Shaft Version

[@trainerredcharizard7982]

Thoughts about the ninja war arc in shippuuden? I mean.. it has great points but also a lot of wanted potential.. and even bs filler throw in

[@MusicoftheDamned]

Having had no interest in this franchise or other "harem" anime besides _Tenchi Muyo_ long ago, I feel like the most important thing I learned from this video is that Negi is Welsh. Huh.

[@kyshowman6847]

It really does make a difference in what’s going on for some jokes and plot points. Negima was better written than I expected.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

@@kyshowman6847 Noted. To be fair, despite my lack of interest in harem anime, _Negima!_ is also basically the only one that I have never read or heard anything bad about (until this video about its apparently bad anime). It also is the only one does seem vaguely interesting despite being a harem anime. So maybe I'll finally look into the manga. Regardless, I was surprised to hear that Negi is Welsh or at least a native of Wales since I legitimately can't think of any other modern media with Welsh characters at all, much as main characters, outside of that _Torchwood_ show with Ianto Jones. Even then, unlike Negi, Ianto isn't the protagonist--he's just in a relationship with him. I won't pretend to really know anything about Wales, but it's basically like if I heard there was a manga or hell any story were the main character seemed to randomly be from Uzbekistan or a similarly ignored country: I would do a mental double-take.

[@hiddensage1218]

Can we get a video on that ninja war? XD

[@cypher5875]

ahh Negima, the first ever manga i actually read....

[@The4thSnake]

Same.

[@GiubileiFernando]

I still hold up Negima as one of my all-time favorite manga. UQ Holder is also great, although I get annoyed with the extreme fanservice.

[@batspidey7611]

Any chance you'll do a video about Marvel's Spider-Man (Spider-Man PS4)?

[@GiubileiFernando]

Please do more Negima videos

[@nikolasfaraday9934]

Ha! You think this is bad? One of my favorite manga's is To Love-Ru. Despite being a harem anime it's also incredibly funny, has some amazing fights and at times can get very emotional. So what did the anime adaptation do? Literally thow 90% of the plot and introductions to the characters into the garbage and replaced it with more or less terrible filler episodes. It was a travesty! Thank god they changed studios after this and the later seasons of the anime are more or less 1-1 adaptations. I really hate when this happens! Yes I didn't care about the main plot just give me filler, said no one ever!

[@The4thSnake]

Watching the anime without reading the manga must be tough, seeing how stuff like Celine's introduction got skipped over between seasons.

[@nikolasfaraday9934]

@@The4thSnake This! This bothered me so much like how can you just skip this? And in the next season she was just there in her human form no explanation, no nothing wtf....

[@WhiteDarkness3113]

@@The4thSnake not to mentioned they skipped over with Oshizu (a ghost) getting her own body and Celine appearing out of nowhere with no explination and yes i know the whole read the manga but coudn't they put on the main anime not the OVA

[@DudesPlayingVidGames]

I own ever manga for this series and loved it to the very end, never watched the anime. Not once, saw negima neo as the manga adaptation of the anime, read through bits of that, dropped it and never paid attention to the live action version.... just read the manga on this one.

[@ElricSowrd]

Yeah, the Anime adaptation was disappointing. Kodanshia should have waited until Volume 16 was made at least.

[@millabasset1710]

Kodansha didn't care

[@ElricSowrd]

@@millabasset1710 Why not? The Anime would have been a lot better that way.

[@millabasset1710]

@@ElricSowrd Negima sold a respectable amount, but not enough for Kodansha to really sell it after two botched anime attempts.

[@sirrealgaming6913]

I'll be honest The anime is how I experienced Negima It was absolute nonsense and the next series was super confusing to me Funny to learn that it suffered from the Freezing & Kampfer curse

[@MechaG]

What curse curse would that be?

[@sirrealgaming6913]

@@MechaG The anime adaption's fanservice over encompassed the actual plot making a mess of everything

[@RyuNoZero]

Oof! that reminds me that I watched every of the mentioned Series': Negima!, Negima!? and Negima Parallel and now to get told that it is all garbage.. it's just beautiful xD I have no hard feelings though.. for me Negima was the better version of Harry Potter, with that I mean: Negi is 11 and has to pass one thing to be a fully educated Wizard, Harry is 11 and just gets into a School of Magic.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Ugh I feel your pain. Lot of stuff from my favorite Light Novel often got context stripped from its adaptation. Then reduced to mostly fan service and flashy action.

[@The4thSnake]

Railgun?

[@shadowclaw7210]

@@The4thSnake I was more talking about its main series “A certain Magical Index”.

[@The4thSnake]

@@shadowclaw7210 That's the one I meant. I guess Railgun supplanted Index in my mind because it's so much better.

[@wakkaseta8351]

Well yes, but fanservice, so your points are invalid, so says the council of Wapanese.

[@WhiteDarkness3113]

I hope you do a "Lost in Adaptation" on the Zatch Bell anime adaptation since while I love the anime exclusive mamodos for adding the 100 sent to watch (along the Tie in movie and tie in games) but man was it botched with a lot of unesisary changes that I feel like they only did it for comedic moments (which for the most part take away from the memorial and serious moments)

[@sonicdihedgehog1]

The dub for FUNImation is great. What are you talking about?

[@lyvekis8824]

I agree with this video. But the manga story wasn't really that better in the end. I read the manga and left it unfinished. In the end nothing makes sense anymore. Characters pop up and disappear, too many characters, side plots occur and lead to nothing, no real end goal except " we have to defeat them because..." even so Negi had no alternative plan to save Mars (he even says that to Fate when confronted), Negi becomes an one man army and basically makes the whole pact partner thing pointless and many, many more things that are 100% illogical. I could rant about the story for hours. It kinda became like Bleach in the end. Ken Akamatsu acknowledged that the story had to be rushed in a later statement.

[@millabasset1710]

He isn't a one man army at the end of the manga, Mage of the Beginning can end him in a few minutes, even weaker villains like Poyo can beat him.

[@MissYoonyul]

*I agree with everything except 2 things:* *1-* In the manga, Konoka awakes her healing magic because Setsuna is severely injured, she then made a pactio with Negi to save him but the power was already there *2 -* Just saying two girls kissing = porn for teenage boys sounds very 2000..? why when it's 2 girls it becomes sexual all of the sudden..? i'm sure it was a light joke but idk it was a weird part, just pointing that out there Other than that great video, made me realise the importance of the Kyoto Arc and how contextualising a story might seems obvious but is still a huge part of an adaptation's success

[@GinraiPrime666]

Ahhhh I remember love Hina, was among the first dvds I imported from the US years ago. Its been awhile since I saw it but I do remember enjoying it. Also yeah, funimations dubs have ALWAYS been hot garbage!

[@that0nedegenerate]

But the OST goes hard.

[@The4thSnake]

lol

[@elijahrollins9293]

did NRS take your family hostage and tell you to make dated jokes so you would get less views?