How ONE MATCH Got Flashlights NERFED

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Ardetha

Ardetha

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@darkthunder5097
@darkthunder5097 Жыл бұрын
There is *nothing* like seeing the creator of DBD getting relentlessly destroyed by trolling survivors.
@pegeta
@pegeta Жыл бұрын
Gave me a raging boner
@Manofwar701
@Manofwar701 Жыл бұрын
Needs to happen more
@Leejohnas
@Leejohnas Жыл бұрын
While running relenting
@pyroronnie2473
@pyroronnie2473 Жыл бұрын
Needs to happen again
@cagethelonewolf
@cagethelonewolf Жыл бұрын
It's something that needed to be seen to believe. You think it's just skill issue untill you try literally everything to get around it
@EliteKnight97
@EliteKnight97 Жыл бұрын
It should be mandatory for the devs to play at least 10 public matches a week as part of their contracts
@JérémyAdrian-l3b
@JérémyAdrian-l3b 11 ай бұрын
Completely Any game director should have some sort of moment being forced to listent to high ranked player to how balance the game
@ahromantic
@ahromantic 11 ай бұрын
Lord, this a million times. 😩
@ems8717
@ems8717 11 ай бұрын
100%
@mae-mx1rt
@mae-mx1rt 11 ай бұрын
As someone in the industry, devs 100% already do. Way more than 10 matches a week.
@ahromantic
@ahromantic 11 ай бұрын
@@mae-mx1rt "Public matches" should also mean in public lobbies and also where everyone can watch. lol
@popthypickle1726
@popthypickle1726 Жыл бұрын
The survivors when they bullied the dev: 😄 When they realize now they're also the reason instablind is gone: 😦
@popthypickle1726
@popthypickle1726 Жыл бұрын
@Lobo The Main Man I think that was just a random match he loaded up on public match. So that group of survivors was just the general player base lol
@xsad7250
@xsad7250 Жыл бұрын
@@ShittusThinkus it was a random match they would’ve had no way who they were facing unless they had his stream running before hand all be it was pretty funny
@eantropix
@eantropix Жыл бұрын
@@popthypickle1726 Considering the size of the event and the likely fact that there were many people playing in close proximity to him, it was very likely he could have gotten stream sniped
@Daikamaitachi
@Daikamaitachi Жыл бұрын
This match also got Hag buffed immediately.
@orestisgeorgatos6725
@orestisgeorgatos6725 Жыл бұрын
@@eantropix yeah. it’s crazy easy to stream snipe in dbd apparently
@jollyrancher8727
@jollyrancher8727 Жыл бұрын
13:35 "Alone in the woods...as a killer." I died xD I just imagined a blood-covered killer with the most brutal weapon in hand, clutching it to their chest and hyperventilating, trembling, and jumping after hearing the scuttling of survivors in the bushes all around them. Cant believe this game actually was like this at one point.
@based344
@based344 Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious in many ways🤣🤣🤣
@SilentHotdog28
@SilentHotdog28 9 ай бұрын
It really wasn't fun as a killer back then. I haven't played for a while, when I left it was alright, but still in survivors favour, I hope the game is in a much better state these days.
@shawnmorris9175
@shawnmorris9175 9 ай бұрын
at high level play it is but mid and low level survivors get absolutely annihilated unless they SWF@@SilentHotdog28
@Yadokaritwintailsan
@Yadokaritwintailsan 6 ай бұрын
That's why so many survivor mains complain the game is killer-sided now. When the game was actually Killer Bullying Simulator for years, it probably feels killer-sided now that they can actually, y'know, kill.
@nicejoke4074
@nicejoke4074 3 ай бұрын
@@SilentHotdog28you should definitely come back!!! Nowadays we have so many more killers with insanely cool powers, and the balance between survivor and killer is insanely skill based. There’s plenty of gen regression and pacing perks, and it slows games immensely and allows any good killers to Catch up. Survivors are still pretty strong in groups, but definitely not Like they used to be. I extremely recommend if you return to start using doctor or huntress, and then work your way into more fun killers like the licenses etc. as you get better
@Phantom_Kraken
@Phantom_Kraken Жыл бұрын
I never knew it was a RANDOM squad he went up against that’s just makes this more hilarious😂
@jfmsnation
@jfmsnation Жыл бұрын
Yeah same. I somehow always thought he was playing against the panel that was there with him. It being just a random match really makes it even more impactful.
@benhayes5396
@benhayes5396 Жыл бұрын
@@jfmsnation tbf I think he was snipe by that squad. Still mad though
@asain3586
@asain3586 Жыл бұрын
@@benhayes5396 He deserved that though. That's what you get for ignoring community's complaints. Now he learned the pains
@GenericUserName443
@GenericUserName443 Жыл бұрын
@@asain3586 no he did not. He is a “censored word” that only did something when it happened to himself, not when it was happening to others and called out. If he had actually learned, then things maps like mothers dwelling would have been cut in half, nurse would been nerfed and loops been made mindgamable instead of ridiculously safe.
@EonofAeon
@EonofAeon Жыл бұрын
Yeah, most everyone I know from early days thought it was a korean pro team from the early days of comp DBD not...randos. Thats hilarious. And even more fitting and sad.
@crukih7527
@crukih7527 Жыл бұрын
I was less triggered by the instblinds and more by how slow that trap setting speed was 😳
@The_B_Button
@The_B_Button Жыл бұрын
Hag's add-ons could do that, plus her trap setting speed was buffed in a patch far later than this.
@richt7525
@richt7525 Жыл бұрын
That little bump to all killer action speeds they gave us was nice enough that this whole video felt oddly sluggish. The pallet break animation was eternity.
@Nitrous0x
@Nitrous0x Жыл бұрын
@@The_B_Button bro, you know how long it took Hag to get buffed from release? Years.
@Daikamaitachi
@Daikamaitachi Жыл бұрын
@@The_B_Button 2 weeks after iirc.
@JRDeBo
@JRDeBo Жыл бұрын
IIRC Hag got buffed "shortly" after this match for some "unknown" reason. (just like the flashlights getting nerfed)
@Synnabelle
@Synnabelle Жыл бұрын
As much as I felt a little bad about Matheiu getting straight disrespected in-game. I think the absolute brutality of it probably helped humble some people at BHVR and maybe helped them grow a bit more in-touch with the players. Cote is a pretty cool dude.
@Ardetha
@Ardetha Жыл бұрын
He was a good sport and handled the event well, even with the hosts saying some fairly unprofessional stuff to him. Definitely came out of the event liking him more.
@ComradeCheeze
@ComradeCheeze Жыл бұрын
Weiner Jammer
@gabrielfrost9134
@gabrielfrost9134 Жыл бұрын
No he's not!.
@VortexDBD
@VortexDBD Жыл бұрын
They prob all got banned afterwards
@Synnabelle
@Synnabelle Жыл бұрын
@@DnR_2018 you say that like we didn't just get several updates finally doing changes and things we've been asking for. And what I was saying it was just a stepping stone. That doesn't take away from him also just being a good guy He's very active with the community.
@DaemonPrince
@DaemonPrince Жыл бұрын
13:40, It's nice seeing a heavily requested balance update to help killer that was being completely ignored for a very long time get fixed because a dev actually *played their fucking game*
@no_n4m352
@no_n4m352 Жыл бұрын
What I've learned in this video:Make the devs play the game with high level survivors to see what's balanced and what needs a buff or a nerf the same thing can go with a high level killer
@weskintime4177
@weskintime4177 Жыл бұрын
So punish all players for the sins of the top tiers?
@javisopa
@javisopa Жыл бұрын
You cant do it otherwise, giving more to bad players keep them as bad players because they wont learn the basics, but if you give more to good players they will just get better because they already know the basics
@yukioacumora4430
@yukioacumora4430 Жыл бұрын
@@weskintime4177 once you get decent at the game, not even top level play but even just moderste level, problems can still unfirl. Doesnt take a top tier to abuse inherently bad design/balence.
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff Жыл бұрын
@@weskintime4177 "sins" lmao
@weskintime4177
@weskintime4177 Жыл бұрын
@@yukioacumora4430 it would still need a full SWF to abuse shit the way this was. I mostly play solo queue and a two-man using a controller.
@Joeyisagonnawin
@Joeyisagonnawin Жыл бұрын
This really was the biggest problem with the game. The developers themselves clearly didn't play the game, or at least not as killer. It absolutely destroyed any hope of mine that the game would be saved.
@persimmonss
@persimmonss Жыл бұрын
It really shows they don't really play killers much
@jinxapphic
@jinxapphic Жыл бұрын
It shows they still don't play, Eruption and Brine needed a tweak but they got fukkin tanked like Ruin and at the same time they add another gen rush perk, and now Singularity having base kit spirit fury and fast vault speed after each teleport. Shits all over the place lol (not even gonna mention how it took them over a month to fix a simple bug on Eyrie, they have yet to fix Any Means, and now Wesker is killswitched too lol)
@legit6353
@legit6353 Жыл бұрын
devs: this game is perfectly balance with no flaws whatsoever devs: *get rekt by random player* devs: gonna nerf survivors next patch
@alexanderwaver1057
@alexanderwaver1057 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the one gets a bit disadvantage depending which side has better skills. He played the worst hag players Ive seen in the game, Im confident to loop him the entire game and still escape. He couldnt even tell which lunge is hit before a pallet and doesnt shrug blindness by looking upwards. No add-ons and no perks against survivors with full perk and held items. He's just as bad as a newbie killer, prolly the worst ive seen so far
@thenekokatze1141
@thenekokatze1141 Жыл бұрын
Nerf Pig
@GotCMilk
@GotCMilk Жыл бұрын
Nerfed survivors the next 10 patches
@buttlord2223
@buttlord2223 Жыл бұрын
Most devs nowadays outside small indie devs don't even play their own games.
@Austin-you-not
@Austin-you-not 7 ай бұрын
No fuck it we gotta nerf The Pig again
@manatipowa
@manatipowa Жыл бұрын
This is why is important for either the developers to have a persistent and reliable QA team or them playing the game by themselves.
@gorkskoal9315
@gorkskoal9315 Жыл бұрын
So a company other than BHVR.
@manatipowa
@manatipowa Жыл бұрын
@@gorkskoal9315 Literally almost no AAA company has a QA team nor has devs that engage with the community or play their own shit. Reason why literally 70% of all new AAA releases are shit.
@Polygonlin
@Polygonlin Жыл бұрын
Well, say what you want but Mathieu actually accepting the Challenge and taking into Consideration what they were saying AFTER he felt how bad it felt to be Bullied like that, was pretty big of him. Wish the Developers would play more of their own game, more often!
@bluemyst42
@bluemyst42 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, how is it not a requirement to play the game? I would have thought game development studios would have the opposite problem and would have to chase them off the game all the time. Maybe when you code it all day, you dont want to see it anymore? I dunno.
@tophatsntales
@tophatsntales Жыл бұрын
@@bluemyst42 Personally disagree. after coding for literally 8-12+ ? yeah 'ill still wanna hop on games and test it or just hop on and have fun on an earlier build thats public. idk wtf is up with BHVR but i guess were just that passionate and they aren't 🤷‍♀
@paulodelima5705
@paulodelima5705 Жыл бұрын
Most game devs don't play their games.
@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106
@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 Жыл бұрын
@@tophatsntales that's what testers are for!
@tophatsntales
@tophatsntales Жыл бұрын
@@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 Exactly
@davidpotts7116
@davidpotts7116 Жыл бұрын
Surprising, how much a dev can learn about their own game by actually playing it at all tiers of play
@tipsy09
@tipsy09 3 ай бұрын
It’s so ridiculous. I’ve been playing this game 7 years. Killer is extremely difficult at higher level matches. YoU have to really focus. But as survivor at higher level Matches sometimes I can literally snooze to victory where missed skill checks wake me up from dozing off lol. Not to Mention I only use trapper and Michael so it’s even harder. Before the anti camping mechanic I had a camping strategy with myers that would destroy teams constantly. But I can’t camp anymore. I really don’t understand why Michael isn’t built in such a way that makes him the strongest killer in the game. It seems that survivors, myself included, actually have fun in matches against Michael even when they end up dying because at least Michael still retains the horror aspect of the game with creepiness and jumpscares.
@jakeholmes1119
@jakeholmes1119 Жыл бұрын
That wesker DCing mid flashlight save was hilarious
@Justmonika6969
@Justmonika6969 Жыл бұрын
His 7 minutes were up lmao
@KY_100
@KY_100 Жыл бұрын
it was a W move
@Thatraiderswagkid
@Thatraiderswagkid Жыл бұрын
It hurts and is something I always wanna do but I just go to the basement and go AFK
@smackedpickle
@smackedpickle Жыл бұрын
@@Justmonika6969 I'm deceased 💀💀💀💀💀
@bell5248
@bell5248 Жыл бұрын
Could have just disconnected
@undertalebob3207
@undertalebob3207 Жыл бұрын
This patch came out 2 months after I started DBD. It molded me into a monsterous killer through many nights crying and turning off my nightlight in fear it would blind me.
@StarrChild.
@StarrChild. Жыл бұрын
I will never feel bad for Matheiu getting destroyed in the game. The devs were LONG overdue for some humbling after they patted themselves on the back for so long when listening to the survivor praises. They admitted they don't play the game so don't have any actual gameplay experience. The old DbD was a joke and while the current one is far from perfect, at least the devs seem like they're "trying" I do, however, feel bad about the unprofessionalism of the event. The hosts seemed cruel with their mocking but Matheiu handled himself super well in the face of it all. But then, maybe he needed that double kick down before something would be done about it. Who knows. Still don't like the dude tho. This is still the guy who told his player base to "play another game" and shouted "what do you want from us?" when the community mentioned all the issues with his game.
@ALE199-ita
@ALE199-ita Жыл бұрын
I agree, I don't feel bad for Matheiu getting bullied in game and by the event host, if he wasn't going to wake up, then the community would make him wake up to the fact that his game is balanced like shit. Sure the hosts were mocking him but I think the point was to humble down the dev, to put him off his high horse and into the mud like the rest of the players, it's obvious when the host says "You see, that's how the killers feel"
@NewSirenSong
@NewSirenSong Жыл бұрын
He didn't say go play another game as though there were no problems, he said if you're feeling especially frustrated with the game or feeling burnt out that players should play something else for a while to cool down. Stop taking everything reddit says seriously, it's the world's worst game of telephone on there
@BlockwizardGaming
@BlockwizardGaming Жыл бұрын
If I had the game community Matheiu had i would want them to leave for another game too.
@asain3586
@asain3586 Жыл бұрын
@@NewSirenSong Dog, if they paid for it, they can say and play whatever they want. And devs are obligated to balance their products and responds to customer's complaints. And the change is long overdue and its funny how one humiliation changed the game. Stop releasing millionth feng min skin and instead balance the game bruh
@NewSirenSong
@NewSirenSong Жыл бұрын
@@asain3586 obligated? No no no, they are in no way fashion or form obligated to rebalance or change the core gameplay in any way to format yours or any other indivuals beliefs. The point in question here though is something entirely different, they may have paid for the game but they didn't pay someone to spout misinformation to them regarding what a developer said regarding the policy that if they're feeling frustrated that maybe they should take a break instead of feeding into that cycle. Don't put words or meanings into other people's mouths because you can't read or don't care to understand the point or topic being presented to you in a digestible manner.
@1starfalco1
@1starfalco1 Жыл бұрын
not only did they nerf flash lights after him getting bullied they also buffed hags trap placement speed . Cuz in the vid the hag was placing traps WAYYYYYYY slower than she does now
@Mr.nesser
@Mr.nesser Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, bullying devs brings results
@deyontemyers4109
@deyontemyers4109 Жыл бұрын
So...should we get one to fight a nurse main...or is that overkill Edit this is a joke ik nurse is hard to play I don't mind fighting a nurse it's just a joke about how the community complains about nurse
@Theragtagna
@Theragtagna Жыл бұрын
"Can we get a comically large spoon melee? I want that." -some heister
@deyontemyers4109
@deyontemyers4109 Жыл бұрын
@@Theragtagna ...you forced my hand friend (Inhales) WULULULULULULULU
@Mr.nesser
@Mr.nesser Жыл бұрын
@@Theragtagna You're right, I didn't even think of that. We now have 2 instances of this working already
@esteban2
@esteban2 Жыл бұрын
"YOU HAVE NO MANA" incident, now paid back with buffs to all ADCs mana stats
@hangrypeko2034
@hangrypeko2034 Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure that was the first and last time Matt Cote actually PLAYED the game. This is so hilarious i watched it twice.
@OmnipotentGoggles
@OmnipotentGoggles Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how quickly BHVR moves when one of its devs is publicly shamed. If you haven't already, consider covering the history of color blind settings in DBD. One chap made a daily post on the subreddit for AGES saying "X days of me posting without BHVR implementing colorblind settings" until the infamous Almo incident. Up until then people thought he/she was just being annoying. Then they got completely vindicated. What happened here with Cote I can look back on with fondness, because it is pretty funny and he ate crow with grace (and he wasn't bullying disabled people.) The latter incident ... not so much.
@om3ga109
@om3ga109 Жыл бұрын
What was the Almo deal?
@VoermanIdiot
@VoermanIdiot Жыл бұрын
@@om3ga109 He addressed the whole lack of color blindness options thing with absolute apathy and basically said that annoying them about it isn't gonna make it come out any faster. If you write DBD Almo Color Blindness you'll find a 39 second or so video of his statement regarding it. If it's the thing I'm thinking of at least, @OmnipotentGoggles might be talking about something different. It could be referring to the time when Almo was hard struggling to see a Doctor skill check because he couldn't see the skill check "cursor".
@limitedgaming9265
@limitedgaming9265 Жыл бұрын
@@om3ga109 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX_an595f65lgrc&ab_channel=DeadByDaylightArchives
@caldw615
@caldw615 Жыл бұрын
@@om3ga109 He stated they weren't a top priority and for the community to stop asking for them. This was soon followed by known twitch streamer Steven Spohn (who is a disabled gamer himself and a huge advocate for accessibility options in games who has organised a lot of charity work) basically calling out Almo and BHVR for it saying if they were tired of always being asked about it, then just imagine how tired the actual players unable to play the game due to lack of accessibility options. The tweet blew up, and articles started being written. BHVR feeling the pressure then within a few hours announced that a colorblind mode was already in the pipeline for months and showed an example mockup of it. This was something players had been asking for since launch with either radio silence or just dismissal but the moment their public image was actually in danger from it they suddenly acknowledged it and had all this supposed work completed in the background.
@victor_hensley8748
@victor_hensley8748 Жыл бұрын
@@VoermanIdiot don't forget that he made toolboxes op because he was annoyed that he wasn't getting enough skillchecks for archive challenges, so he made toolboxes give 5x more skillchecks, aka, 5x more great skill checks, leading to the overabundance of toolboxes today.
@Wonderland_Afters
@Wonderland_Afters Жыл бұрын
While he was playing on the couch, the original commentator who made the joke about balance said, "He has to experience this so he understands."
@jjking8577
@jjking8577 Жыл бұрын
It’s fucked up how they set him up but Matt had to learn the hard way
@loIipop
@loIipop Жыл бұрын
I hate these comments that say they removed everything fun about the game. Its not true. Instablinds, vaccum pallets, infinites, etc. All of those HAVE to go. They were toxic and not fun for the killer at all. The people saying that was fun where the people bullying the killer when survivors had everything and were in there prime and unbalanced. Not saying killer didnt have anything like old ruin NOED etc but these game mechanics had to get removed
@Thurkzs
@Thurkzs Жыл бұрын
Then killers need nerfs too
@spinnyboi9951
@spinnyboi9951 Жыл бұрын
@@Thurkzs their nerf was their actionspeeds on release lmao
@Thurkzs
@Thurkzs Жыл бұрын
@@spinnyboi9951 boiiiiiiii
@rosaparks6479
@rosaparks6479 Жыл бұрын
@@Thurkzs X is much stronger than Y, so X needs a nerf. Y does not need a nerf because X got a nerf, because X was stronger than Y to begin with
@michaeldombrowski2833
@michaeldombrowski2833 Жыл бұрын
@@Thurkzs Interesting pfp
@seeinred
@seeinred Жыл бұрын
14:56 It is 100% cause and effect. The truth would never be said directly tho, even if Matheiu for some reason wanted to do something like that.
@Boney_McBonerton
@Boney_McBonerton Жыл бұрын
The Funniest defining moment in DBD history will always be how the main shift in balance towards the killer's favor was because Mathieu himself joined a random public match and immediately got hard bullied by a 4 man ochido fanboy squad XD Honestly whoever those survivors are and wherever they may be, thank you
@NuggyPoundy1
@NuggyPoundy1 Жыл бұрын
thanks for shitting this dev...
@soacespacestation8556
@soacespacestation8556 Жыл бұрын
Killer gen regression perks be like:
@elian958
@elian958 Жыл бұрын
the game balance is not killer favored Thats just what survivor cry babies main say
@nocthemedic2951
@nocthemedic2951 Жыл бұрын
@@elian958 Well the thing is the game has to be balanced in killer's favor in order for it to be fair just by virtue of the fact that there are 4 survivors and they're capable of communicating with each other. You are right though, survivors are just cry babies. If the killer is capable of getting even one out of the 4 of them the killer is too strong. Bitches
@elian958
@elian958 Жыл бұрын
@@nocthemedic2951 but if its fair then its not killer favored i agree most people at low levels swf and at high levels it doesnt really matter cause survivors are super good (so are killers btw but they changed their tactics a bit)
@wendigomaneiro8892
@wendigomaneiro8892 Жыл бұрын
Quick! Make Matthew play against a high level Nurse! This will save DbD
@Stroyoo_03
@Stroyoo_03 Жыл бұрын
I love that you have natural captions in your videos. I’m not hearing impaired but I know everyone who is or struggles with it is immensely grateful! Thank you for your work Ardetha :)
@sobbingacorn6375
@sobbingacorn6375 Жыл бұрын
Hearing impaired person here, and you are very right. Creators adding in captions is absolutely wonderful, since KZbin's captions tend to be terrible
@Sky-lm1vg
@Sky-lm1vg Жыл бұрын
Another hearing impaired person here to also agree.
@indrast5203
@indrast5203 Жыл бұрын
Not hearing impaired but captions can be really helpful for people not very accustomed to the language spoken at the video.
@Justhideme
@Justhideme 11 ай бұрын
@@sobbingacorn6375cry
@mitchsz
@mitchsz 8 ай бұрын
It's good for me too, english is not my first language
@Ramxenoc
@Ramxenoc Жыл бұрын
I remember when this happened because of hating the flashlights and then seeing the match of him getting destroyed and then the nerfs to the flashlights and it was hilarious
@lanathebeholder9813
@lanathebeholder9813 Жыл бұрын
The unfortunate thing about game development is that changes like this need someone to push for them. Something like flashlight balancing was probably marked as low priority even when they knew it was an issue so unless someone in the company or at least close to a dev is regularly asking for updates, it's not something that would get done that quickly.
@TheJacobbridges25
@TheJacobbridges25 Жыл бұрын
"Being alone in the forest as a killer" lmao such a funny sentence 🤣
@darkron288
@darkron288 Жыл бұрын
I always heard from my survivvor friends that "The dbd devs only do what killers wanted look at the fun thing they removed after the dev had that one match" THIS is what they are talking about? Jesus christ this looks so unfun to go agasint and i'm glad this was longggg dead by the time i started dbd
@Wizardbeard91
@Wizardbeard91 Жыл бұрын
The devs don't do ANYTHING for killers loool the ONLY reason flashlights got nerfed is cause a top dawg at bhvr got bullied
@weskintime4177
@weskintime4177 Жыл бұрын
@@Wizardbeard91they have been nerfing stuff on both sides like crazy, not just ignoring killers. Killers have also gotten a few decent buffs. Only one that I can say got shafted in any way was the Nurse and that was especially deserved after all the shit she ruined.
@Duothimir
@Duothimir Жыл бұрын
@@weskintime4177 And yet the power disparity is still incredibly frustrating. Most killers are still pressed hard for time, necessitating top tier perks if you want to get anything done. It's hard to do anything fun or off-meta.
@NameIsDoc
@NameIsDoc Жыл бұрын
@@weskintime4177 yeah let's see before the update where they nerfed survivors meta it was DH ds unbreakable and borrowed time with zero incentives to use anything other than Gen rush or second chance perks . Now it's DH ds unbreakable and off the record. With zero incentives to use anything other than Gen rush or second chance perks. Such a change in meta. Hell now they have 6 information perks and a second chance perk basekit. Meanwhile killers meta went straight into the trasg
@CrimsonHeart3
@CrimsonHeart3 Жыл бұрын
The amount of issues back then are hard to list, be grateful you started recently for sure
@Jj-xl3xg
@Jj-xl3xg Жыл бұрын
It helps comparisons when they are both on screen so they can be instantly easily compared, instead of having multiple very similar or identical features repeated over to muddle things from the points that actually contrast.
@ЛюблюПиццу-р2ю
@ЛюблюПиццу-р2ю Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you show the message "noob killer" in the post-game chat😭😭😭
@creepei518
@creepei518 Жыл бұрын
It's really interesting to see how the game director (and other DEVS of DBD) feels and reacts to frustrating situations, they should play public matches more often.
@misterhyde408
@misterhyde408 Жыл бұрын
Godamn that trap setups speed 😨
@ShittusThinkus
@ShittusThinkus Жыл бұрын
Back then lunge range and speed was based on Killler speed too, look how pathetic the Hag lunge attacks were. It was a nightmare back then. Atleast we had Billy.
@terryfries
@terryfries Жыл бұрын
@@ShittusThinkus instasaw billy 😋
@TextualDeviant
@TextualDeviant Жыл бұрын
The way they turned the killer from a frightening predator preying on a group of humans alone in the woods into the killer being alone and afraid with a group of humans in the woods is amazing.
@Max_The_One
@Max_The_One Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought brightness of the beam meant faster blinding speed?
@zandromex8985
@zandromex8985 Жыл бұрын
No, you aren't. TIL lol
@furydozer344
@furydozer344 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I did too
@Antarctide
@Antarctide Жыл бұрын
You're not the only idiot of the village, no
@iwantmmore
@iwantmmore Жыл бұрын
yes you are lol who tf would read that and think it meant faster blinding speed LMAo
@pyroisafemboy6994
@pyroisafemboy6994 Жыл бұрын
@@iwantmmore Perhaps we can ask your mother and the men she's staying with at the downtown Brothel what they think.
@djkenway4871
@djkenway4871 Жыл бұрын
Tbh devs need to go against top tier killers and survivors like this more often to see how frustrating it can be on both sides especially with the killers that people have complained about so they understand the frustration some players go through
@thanotosomega
@thanotosomega Жыл бұрын
The issue there is most people aren't top tier, so balancing around that will likely kill off lower level play which will kill the game, never Ballance around pro level play,
@DajesOfficial
@DajesOfficial Жыл бұрын
Name a game where you won't be absolutely destroyed and frustrated after going against top players. Thats probably a shitty game. So gtfo
@kelet1724
@kelet1724 Жыл бұрын
Thats what happens when devs actually dont play the game they made which is almost confirmed at the end.
@youtube-kit9450
@youtube-kit9450 6 ай бұрын
They only play survivors on the bottom ranks, it's clear as day. They don't play killer (otherwise they'd notice a fucking unkickable gen) and they especially don't play anything remotely ranked higher than bottom considering Freddy, a killer that was complete shit but good at killing n00bs who didn't know how he worked got butchered to high hell. Also shows in how much they reference irrelevant or misinformative statistics to justify their extreme survivor bias.
@jR0xas
@jR0xas Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that following this they not only removed insta blinds but also all double pallets from every map.
@rainerlutcha
@rainerlutcha Жыл бұрын
If i played the game at that era I would just get Lightborn, it didn't even fully make you immune to blinds and made your screen darker but that would be my sacrifice.
@NuggyPoundy1
@NuggyPoundy1 Жыл бұрын
yea why not just use lightborn with better killer?
@Loldino897
@Loldino897 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing is until 28th of July 2020 Lightborn only made it harder to be blinded not immune
@coffinboy556
@coffinboy556 Жыл бұрын
@@NuggyPoundy1 probably because it takes up a valuable perk spot, survivor main.
@termiiinuss
@termiiinuss Жыл бұрын
@@coffinboy556 the meta back then in 2017 was so simple. sigh
@nonyabidness8676
@nonyabidness8676 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it also made your screen darker meant that you'd be walking by survivors all the time. They wouldn't need flashlights, you just wouldn't be able to see. Also, it used to make your screen *darker* as you got rarer versions of the perk, meaning you probably only wanted the baseline version at most.
@tristanbrady8663
@tristanbrady8663 Жыл бұрын
I just got back into Dbd after like a one year pause and I totally forgot about this channel in the mean time. So happy to see you doing well! ❤
@DavidLucian
@DavidLucian Жыл бұрын
"I think we did a pretty good job so far" - Mathieu Cote ☯️😁😅👌
@lobo2367
@lobo2367 6 ай бұрын
People are making fun of the dev, but in reality he's one of the VERY RARE game developers that actually plays his own game and took the challenge presented by the hosts. He got educated and changed the game. It's a FEEL GOOD story, not "stupid dev" story. Also: The survivor wasn't nodding at the end for good luck... look at that head bobbing movement again...
@Afterasilence
@Afterasilence Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad flashlights are more balanced now because Jesus it felt so unfair.
@paulodelima5705
@paulodelima5705 Жыл бұрын
More balanced? Medkits and toolboxes are way better then flashlights now. The killer must be really bad to get blind saves.
@godfrey4461
@godfrey4461 Жыл бұрын
​@@drypotato6990the clown above u has zero clue what he's on about.
@EmiWi
@EmiWi Ай бұрын
@@paulodelima5705 that's the way it should be, flashlights shouldn't be something your entire strat relies on. It should serve for niche situations.
@EE-us9we
@EE-us9we Жыл бұрын
This is why the creators of their game need to play them. So they can experince what the playerbase is experincing
@tripodnetwork2804
@tripodnetwork2804 Жыл бұрын
I always have to watch your videos multiple times because I get so invested in the game play I miss what you are saying. Brilliant and I love it.
@epicevan7495
@epicevan7495 5 ай бұрын
10:52 there was a video basically celebrating how far this game has come with the track "daylight" playing in the background and when playing some famous clips like animators and stuff, it played this part as well which I thought was a little random but.. now I get why
@theotv5522
@theotv5522 Жыл бұрын
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: DBD is simply a game where 2 sides try to agitate the other side until they become the most toxic gamer on the planet.
@speedofsoundgaming7693
@speedofsoundgaming7693 7 ай бұрын
The Korean girl in the background yelling TEABAGGING OOOOOOOO is my favorite thing ever holy shit.
@vucongat5802
@vucongat5802 Жыл бұрын
That match at Korean chat show is absolutely legend. The Director finally tasted his own medicine.
@francescocaterino2694
@francescocaterino2694 3 ай бұрын
Killer: gets bullied Entity: "Disgraceful defeat"
@Totallynotkyubey
@Totallynotkyubey Жыл бұрын
The fact that the devs don't play their own game (not in public matches, at least - the real game) was all but confirmed through DbD history. They've gotten a tiny bit better over the years but glaring issues still take way too long to resolve, nerfs are handed out seemingly at random (probably depending on which dev's kid got bodied by which killers/perks) and the latest killer shows that BHVR still have issues anticipating how impactful killer abilities and perks will be in their game.
@nicholasgerry8247
@nicholasgerry8247 Жыл бұрын
"It's over Anakin! I have the high beams!" Me, moonwalking towards the survivors: "You underestimate my power!"
@n.p.8055
@n.p.8055 Жыл бұрын
You should talk about the trapper evolution! I remember how he was able to camp hooks like no other since traps took 10 sec to disarm and he could set up under hooks
@NotOnlyMagicMan
@NotOnlyMagicMan Жыл бұрын
Homie at 13:20 was legit speaking for the entire killer community
@Justmonika6969
@Justmonika6969 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a good point that sometimes really negative events can help smack people back into the reality of the situation. Had these changes not gone through, the game may have died due to the game running out of killer players willing to handle this torment without switching to Nurse. I remember playing back then and it was a nightmare even without the instablinds. The vacuum pallets and infinites HAD to go to get DbD to survive to the present day as well. All of it combined was just too bullshit to take in.
@xrad3269
@xrad3269 Жыл бұрын
I know some people quit the game cuz the devs nerfed dead hard😂.
@asain3586
@asain3586 Жыл бұрын
@@xrad3269 Those people are stupid then and not willing to learn. Personally i thing dh now is better and balanced. No more evade deathslinger shot
@Justmonika6969
@Justmonika6969 Жыл бұрын
@@asain3586 Yeah it's even debatedly stronger in the hands of a skilled player because new DH grants a speed boost if you pull off the timing, making it stronger than old DH if you were in a deadzone.
@bezel95
@bezel95 Жыл бұрын
Wait, was Hag seriously that slow in setting up traps before?
@bubu.D.28
@bubu.D.28 Жыл бұрын
Ye
@MrAgmoore
@MrAgmoore Жыл бұрын
Before they gave her crystal meth
@g80gzt
@g80gzt Жыл бұрын
With certain addons, but yes (it's a red bar, so it was being slowed down from its native speed at the time) Killers were seriously that slow in general. Trapper had to wait 4 years to be able to not lose his entire power from some toolboxes, or to reset a trap without picking it up first. It used to be something like 5 seconds to set a beartrap. And you could only carry one at a time, basekit. And BNPs were just press button complete generator. And you saw how slow it was to break pallets? Killer just *looking* at the pallet for a solid second before actually moving?
@MrAgmoore
@MrAgmoore Жыл бұрын
You used to need a torch, to see her scratch markings. I have no idea why they nerfed that.
@victorjozek5384
@victorjozek5384 Жыл бұрын
*BHVR developper after playing a killer game in 2023* Patch: Dead Hard removed, boon totem removed, medkits removed, RPD removed, pallet spawn reduced, Cloadette removed.
@Aquilenne
@Aquilenne Жыл бұрын
That's going to be hard to sell to the balance team when their stats show a 60% kill rate.
@benebersole3038
@benebersole3038 Жыл бұрын
bro really just said we need to remove claudette💀
@torei9261
@torei9261 Жыл бұрын
I think the game needs a punishment system for toxic survivors as well. Unhooking when the killer facecamps was a good first step but nothing is more annoying then toxic survivor. When a killer facecamps you know at least 2 if not 3 survivors escape. It's kind of a trade for being annoyed by a facecamper. However there is no downside to being a toxic survivor aside from maybe having one person less on a generator. Excessive tbagging, flash light clicking and fast vaulting far away from the killer should be limited or faces with negative consequences
@aroace7913
@aroace7913 10 ай бұрын
Just don´t get baited by that and keep a cool head, if people do that I just move to the next gen or chase them but lead them to gens and chase the people there than.
@d.m.darkmatter8286
@d.m.darkmatter8286 Жыл бұрын
A dev needed to get shit on just so we can get a good update
@chelseahuddle557
@chelseahuddle557 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE how informative your videos are. So good. I joined the game a little after the age of bully squads but I hate playing like that anyway. I like to be sweet to the killer, it pays off more than you would think XD
@SuperGDPWYL
@SuperGDPWYL Жыл бұрын
Instablinds sound crazy, as someone who only picked up the game in 2022
@mylife1221
@mylife1221 Жыл бұрын
omg getomerdya sh
@benebersole3038
@benebersole3038 Жыл бұрын
as much as people complain about the balance, it has only gotten better over time
@xxprototypexx5056
@xxprototypexx5056 Жыл бұрын
You think that's nuts? Look up insta-generators. Back in DBD's early years, Brand New Parts add-on would repair gens completely from 0 to 100% the very frame you used it. You didn't even need to do skill checks, it was truly instant. You can guess really easily what a squad with 4 of them would look like.
@SuperGDPWYL
@SuperGDPWYL Жыл бұрын
@@xxprototypexx5056 Yeah BNPs were also incredibly busted, and so were keys and moris. Old DbD sounded like a chaos fest where everything was incredibly OP
@meme_lover.69
@meme_lover.69 10 ай бұрын
10:21 Evil Riot Games be like: *playing jungle and realizing how over tuned and giga busted the role is, impacting 95% of the matches than any other role in the entire match*
@BeastGamingHD
@BeastGamingHD Жыл бұрын
cote was like: "you make a mockery of me with your flashlights in front of thousands of people... I'll destroy the flashlight for those thousands of people watching. this one's on you"
@TemplarBlonic
@TemplarBlonic Жыл бұрын
This also happened when he played Hag and got wrecked bad. They buffed Hag in a month after that.
@JamessssssssssSupra
@JamessssssssssSupra Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic history! Love this series mate. Thank you
@JS-my4jw
@JS-my4jw Жыл бұрын
I love this story, and I will never get tired of hearing it. It really shows how BHVR were completely and utterly out of touch with both their community and their own game back in the day. They were unwilling to do anything at all about insta-blind flashlights and just content to let killer players suffer through it. UNTIL the lead game developer himself was humiliated and bullied into oblivion with the very thing the community was saying was problematic in front of both a live and online audience while trying to promote the game; RIGHT AFTER saying that the advantage it provided was negligible. And what do you know? The very next patch, it's immediately addressed. I'm glad that they learned from this and that in 2023, they're actually listening to the people who play their game.
@GenericUserName443
@GenericUserName443 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day? They are still entirely out of touch with the game and it is suffering ridiculous issues that anyone with half a brain would notice and deal with right away. Boons and incredibly safe pallets in droves to mention two.
@sosig6445
@sosig6445 Жыл бұрын
The problem is positive change is only happening AFTER he personally get's fucked over so what now? do we need a dedicated "troll team" and drag his ass to fight against them just so they finally fix unballanced characters or perks and infuriating bugs or exploits?
@vsevolodbielchev3852
@vsevolodbielchev3852 Жыл бұрын
Damm, that seem to work, maybe he should now play as killer against SWF with no slowdowns? Maybe it would work this time as well
@Montoya1371
@Montoya1371 Жыл бұрын
First video of your i see pop up on my home, and it's so well done and narrated that I'm looking forward to viewing your entire library and your future videos
@HambinoRanx
@HambinoRanx Жыл бұрын
Love your video's! you keep me loving this game and the lore behind it. keep up the great work
@deiniall2951
@deiniall2951 3 ай бұрын
I want to see this type of games more often. The creator and the devs doing a live event where they play their own game.
@readysetgameover9977
@readysetgameover9977 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know man, I’ve run into my fair share of flashlight users these days. Both the non toxic and toxic varieties.
@cptcolgenltmajor9246
@cptcolgenltmajor9246 Жыл бұрын
Toxicity will always endure however .4 second blinding flashlights are a thing of the past
@readysetgameover9977
@readysetgameover9977 Жыл бұрын
@@cptcolgenltmajor9246 This, the reality is that even if there was only one survivor to play as and items didn’t exist, there would still be toxicity. Same goes for killers (looking at you hitting on the hook, face camping, and tunneling at 5 gens.)
@jacobwright8652
@jacobwright8652 Жыл бұрын
Bro I feel so bad whenever I watch Mathieu's game here cuz it's just so sad watching the games director be made a fool of in his own game. He felt a fraction of the pain us veteran killer players felt at the time.
@MikeNoob101
@MikeNoob101 Жыл бұрын
Every Survivor main when they saw the match against the dev: YOU IMBECILE, YOU DOOMED US ALL
@WolfieSilveira
@WolfieSilveira Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just got to show the devs of a game, the struggles people face in everyday gameplay, to understand the flaws
@sewak7142
@sewak7142 Жыл бұрын
I love you iconic quote " things needed to be changed"
@thatfishguy4991
@thatfishguy4991 Жыл бұрын
The way Hag used to spend like twenty minutes to set her trap.
@VernulaUtUmbra
@VernulaUtUmbra Жыл бұрын
Man, I never knew that gen was bugged. I always thought Matheiu tried kicking a completed gen.
@XxP4P4D0CxX
@XxP4P4D0CxX Жыл бұрын
I remember this time. I have always mained killer and during this time the game was a nightmare when you got to high ranks. This crap happened every match so running lightborn became a necessity to try and buy you a little bit of time to not get insta-blinded. Lightborn btw was not what is was today, it didn't make you immune to flashlights, it made your resistance to being blinded increased and your recovery was also increased but it dimmed your field of view. Ironic how a tool that shines light brought upon a dark time for the game.
@prometheanrebel3838
@prometheanrebel3838 Жыл бұрын
The brightest lights cast the longest and darkest of shadows.
@Plain_Delta
@Plain_Delta Жыл бұрын
Good to see developers experiencing what their players have to go through every match
@arcticafrostbite617
@arcticafrostbite617 5 ай бұрын
Man, that dev went from "dang thats a long blind" To visibly "why the fuck did we do this?!?"
@RamlinG1728
@RamlinG1728 Жыл бұрын
I knew Mathieu was bullied in our country and it brought killer buffs, but I didn't know it led to flashlight nerfs as well. Nice job, brothers.
@mole1640
@mole1640 Жыл бұрын
omg u legend... the background music i wasent ready for that nostalgia hit
@szymonkubizna8532
@szymonkubizna8532 Жыл бұрын
Now we just need him to be camped at 5 gens by bubba or tunneled out at 5 gens by blight/nurse/spirit so he has a balanced understanding of both sides.
@segasov
@segasov Жыл бұрын
When you’ve been playing for so long, it feels like insta blinds were just there yesterday
@jun1orbaitor44
@jun1orbaitor44 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention: Back in the day, killers pick up animation was SUPER slow, combined with the crazy fact that survivors could flashlight during the animation AT ANY TIME! They didn't even need to time it, as long as they blinded the killer PERIOD during the pickup animation, they got the save....
@Thunder-Chief
@Thunder-Chief Жыл бұрын
Great vid! I know you were highlighting differences with color, but perhaps putting them side-by-side on the screen at the same time would be more helpful. Thanks!
@ConnorKrohnicles
@ConnorKrohnicles Жыл бұрын
Your video presentation is always incredible. Even though I haven’t played DBD in over a year I find myself coming back to this channel
@zaydengames513
@zaydengames513 Жыл бұрын
He was kind of asking to lose because he was the Hag with his only perk being a yellow unrelenting, but I do see how that would be so frustrating and it makes sense why they nerfed it
@goldenstraw-hat3069
@goldenstraw-hat3069 Жыл бұрын
It was very funny seeing a developer getting destroyed by a swf 😂
@christofferengevik8
@christofferengevik8 Жыл бұрын
Imagine killers had been enduring this abuse for tens even hundreds of games and complained to BHVR about it. No action taken. He endured ONE game of this and immediately nurfed the whole fucking game lol
@maverickdarkrath4780
@maverickdarkrath4780 Жыл бұрын
Back when lightborn almost became killer base kit
@aflyingstarly5535
@aflyingstarly5535 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see this again and see how little they can do against the survivors now a days that are even better than before.
@AvernusDO
@AvernusDO Жыл бұрын
Ardetha can you make a video about the downfall of keys, when the hatch spawns according to the gens popped, swf would gen rush with bnp then 4 man escape with keys when there are 2 gens
@TheGamerFreddie
@TheGamerFreddie Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Cote was put into a position where he HAD to play that match. As soon as that match ended, BHVR was in a lose/lose in terms of what the player base would think on next patch. If we assume that they had the changes being prepared, either A) they waited on those changes to avoid the suspicion and risked Killer players being (rightfully) upset or B) they did what they did and let Cote be made fun of for the greater good of balancing the game. If they didn't have it planned, well, certainly that match was an eye-opener for Cote, and I'm sure he would've been like "We need instablinds to go, the Killer players have been complaining for far too long and they were proven right when I got brutally bullied live." and if there was resistence from the Balancing team, I'm sure he would've played the "Then how about you all go play Killer as well, see if you actually think instablind are healthy for the game." and then we got the removal. Regardless, I still think that we should shame the Devs into playing DBD in high skill settings more often, especially as Killer, because Survivors have a much louder voice in the community than Killers, and I think that the Devs have a bit of a bias because of it.
@thomaswerner7489
@thomaswerner7489 Жыл бұрын
You can really see the amount of effort put into this video. Amazing job.
@OrloxPhoenix
@OrloxPhoenix Жыл бұрын
The dev before the event: DbD is fun and balanced. The dev after the event: wtf are these flashlights!?
@shoul1
@shoul1 Жыл бұрын
7:42 "Back then"? Dude, they still are.
@fallenangel9614
@fallenangel9614 Жыл бұрын
That’s so funny that this was a public match 😂 I mean he likely got stream sniped but gah damn it really took them getting crapped on in a normal game for them to do something this is probably why they have skill based matchmaking now too lowkey
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