How One Oversight Changed Resident Evil 4’s Future Forever | SwankyBox

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@SwankyBox
@SwankyBox 5 жыл бұрын
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@SouSporting
@SouSporting 6 жыл бұрын
No Merchant, Verdugo, Salazar, Dr.Salvador or Luis Sera? Nah i'm more than happy with how RE4 turned out.
@kevgmei
@kevgmei 5 жыл бұрын
That's a bold opinion about my second favourite Resident Evil character and a sinister one-off villain.
@hasjjwan4739
@hasjjwan4739 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevgmei "I jaaacked dii Line Mr Kennedy"!
@EnterJustice
@EnterJustice 5 жыл бұрын
Salazar was pure camp. Looking back on it, a lot of characters in RE4 were, though.
@raiseanothermanskidsforlov4920
@raiseanothermanskidsforlov4920 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pretzelcoatlus Salazar is a funny little dude
@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr
@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr 4 жыл бұрын
Ruthus I wish they did a similar ada side campaign story for him.. would of shed some light on what he was up too during the events of the main campaign story
@50Bellic
@50Bellic 6 жыл бұрын
So basically Nintendo killed Wesker.
@marlonbonnici
@marlonbonnici 6 жыл бұрын
In the black fog version Leon was infected by "Something" And was slowly turning into a Bio weapon himself with the "Ghostly" Aspects being explained as hallucinations. Remember reading that in the gamecube magazine back when the first trailer for this RE4 was released.
@vaellyth
@vaellyth 6 жыл бұрын
That something was The Progenitor Virus
@oshikiri999
@oshikiri999 5 жыл бұрын
I totally still have this issue, even has pictures of like a impish smoke thing that definitely wasn't the tentacle monster they mention.
@AlphaWasSpotted
@AlphaWasSpotted 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like the E bacteria in Re7
@punctuationman334
@punctuationman334 4 жыл бұрын
Николай Русев because technical limitations, and re4 is great anyways.
@abyssstrider2547
@abyssstrider2547 4 жыл бұрын
@Николай Русев I wouldn't have liked the supernatural resident evil 4 though. the game would have been a flop as well cause the 3 games before it were about zombies so it would lead to less sales overall
@BadAssMacmillan
@BadAssMacmillan 7 жыл бұрын
I would've loved see to how the original version would have played out but i'm not sad about it because the RE4 that we got turned out to be one of the greatest games of all time.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
BadAssMacmillan -/ at this point I just want to know the story of the game. The full story. It was supposed to be the end of Umbrella and that was the story all RE fans were waiting for!
@fallensurvivor21
@fallensurvivor21 6 жыл бұрын
I'm recently replaying re4 but without running around and killing everything. Taking my time playing it and enjoying th atmosphere and it really makes you jump. I hate people that feel they're too "tough" to jump cause of a game. I don't think the genre killed itself. It's people like that where the genre is slowly dying.
@t_man7259
@t_man7259 6 жыл бұрын
BadAssMacmillan they say 7 was a make up for what was mentioned here
@Thetoastedwaffle5
@Thetoastedwaffle5 6 жыл бұрын
I see that they were trying to aim for continuing the zombies with something new like new bosses or enemies for re4 and what we see today as re4 is a new type of game, makes senses?
@Tailsofthecryptid
@Tailsofthecryptid 5 жыл бұрын
You can't correct someone's opinion
@Gabbycatty
@Gabbycatty 6 жыл бұрын
The early builds of 4 kinda remind me of what RE7 is. It's like they took those unused concepts of Leon seeing "ghostly" apparitions and changed it up slightly.
@vali4real
@vali4real 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking friend! Im glad someone else thought about this! And now that re7 introduced this whole "Paranormal Ghostly Virus" concept, (which turned out to be a success), I only pray to God that they encompass and bring back the entire story of re 3.5 and rename it "re8"...
@southofheck
@southofheck 4 жыл бұрын
If we got the Black Fog version we might of never gotten classic lines like the bingo bit or "your right hand comes off!?"
@stevenkimdmd
@stevenkimdmd 6 жыл бұрын
What you are describing is not called "oversight". It's called "technical limitations".
@Crowback354
@Crowback354 6 жыл бұрын
No it was an oversight because they had already completed most of the game expecting their creature to work.
@Bowiiihowdy
@Bowiiihowdy 5 жыл бұрын
Which is funny because RE4 was a beautiful game and was ahead of its time graphics wise
@punctuationman334
@punctuationman334 4 жыл бұрын
Chase Janus re4 still looks ok, still think re5 will hold up for far longer though.
@Iionsong
@Iionsong 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bowiiihowdy well it *is* Resident Evil
@brandogg
@brandogg 6 жыл бұрын
This wasn't the reason the game was changed. The issue was that they essential had to render two "worlds" at the same time because Leon would hallucinate and see the "ghost" world at any given time. So, it was a technical limitation, but it wasn't because of the "fog monster". Having said that, Capcom said they just couldn't fit the entire world into the GameCube's memory, which means it was simply too ambitious for any console at the time, since the GameCube had the most RAM of any console from that generation.
@MakaveliDior
@MakaveliDior 6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Booth Damn I thought the PS2 was stronger than the Gamecube
@Daniel-fx1hb
@Daniel-fx1hb 6 жыл бұрын
itanimulli I think the PS2 was the weakest out of that generation
@Halo3machenima
@Halo3machenima 5 жыл бұрын
@@MakaveliDior The PS2 was never built for power. The specs were on the low end. The Gamecube had far more power than the PS2. And the Xbox was around twice the power of the Gamecube.
@MrRager-mh5gf
@MrRager-mh5gf 5 жыл бұрын
@@Halo3machenima to think that if xbox didnt screw up that meeting, re4 would of probably ended up like the original version then. Lol
@playerone6995
@playerone6995 4 жыл бұрын
@@MakaveliDior No, Gamecube was significantly more powerful than PS2.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
You have to peel back the onion more. The real issue was not the monster. The real issue was the hardware. They had more trouble having two environments (real and ghost world) and getting it to work more than issues with just the monster. The game got delayed so much that Milano had to step in and just do a total rehaul of the series.
@-youtubePRISONER
@-youtubePRISONER 5 жыл бұрын
He kind of implied that. He said the console wasn't powerful enough.
@pepijn23
@pepijn23 4 жыл бұрын
I can see where some of the characters of Re4 would’ve come from. Ganados = Zombies Miltia or Cultists = Human soldiers from Umbrella Los Illuminados = Just Umbrella Saddler = Wesker Regenerator = Tyrants Wolfs = Cerberus Ashley = Sherry So, I think Capcom used the original ideas for the new ideas
@holeeshi9959
@holeeshi9959 Жыл бұрын
Saddler is Spencer, Oswell Spencer, Osmund Saddler.
@Unholy_Mango
@Unholy_Mango 6 жыл бұрын
Going through a castle to defeat an old man while a shadow monster is chasing you? Sounds like Amnesia
@kevgmei
@kevgmei 5 жыл бұрын
I actually love how the game turned out. I think it was well worth every hour of work as well as every screw-up, frustration and compromise because it all shaped the game into my favourite Resident Evil title by far with an atmosphere that appeals to me perfectly, as well as being a good segue towards future titles.
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@561wolf2
@561wolf2 7 жыл бұрын
Boom Butterfly Effect.
@apassionatepotato
@apassionatepotato 6 жыл бұрын
561Wolf You remind me of another horror game... I wonder which one it is... *Whispers* Until Dawn.
@AkiraZack15
@AkiraZack15 6 жыл бұрын
I hate it x_x
@tejaspathak6196
@tejaspathak6196 5 жыл бұрын
Steins gate , isint it?😂
@mollyflogging8402
@mollyflogging8402 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean... Broken butterfly effect? 😎
@jerrickhenderfredjr9178
@jerrickhenderfredjr9178 4 жыл бұрын
“The Black Fog” is a really badass name, sounds like a squad of ghost soldiers or some shit....
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 7 жыл бұрын
how interesting it would have been with the fog included in the game I didn't even think about all the ramifications until you brought them up with Spencer and Jill
@kjb1998
@kjb1998 7 жыл бұрын
+SwankyBox thank you so much for making this video. I love Re4. It was and still is my most favorite game of all time. In fact it was the first Re game I ever played. To know that there was a different version tested in the past was amazing. I love this game to fanboy extents. Thank you.
@Xrueo
@Xrueo 7 жыл бұрын
Keegan Braden Great video! I love it.
@UC559
@UC559 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you bring light to this Re4 beta although there is tons on story you left out on the beta, For example the first Re4 beta after devil may cry was the fog virus castle build which weskers team had brought to the castle to ambush Leon and his whole team in the begining of the game and Leon would remain the only survivor of this attack witch also means he survived but got infected...This virus was found under Spencers castle through excavations, The interesting thing about that is in the official Re4 you can find a note that says the plaga was found under salazars castle through excavations aswell so things weren't fully scrapped you see. Going on this version wasn't scrapped but moved over into the hallucinations build were after being infected the virus would begin mutating leons arm and would soon give his arm a special ability This was leaked through the voice actor... And in the end he even reveals Leon would die from the virus from it being so powerful and so painful, but they didn't like that too much so they scrapped that and would mean no Leon in Re6 Also the original plot was for Leon to rescue Sherry birken trapped in the castle, and along this journey he would face many enemies bows and hallucinations, from the progenitor virus side effects weskers team rushed into the castle ambushing Leon and his team in the beginning of the game. and he would also battle this fog virus throughout the game
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
FearlessFoxX thank you! I also find r interesting it was to take place at almost the same time as CV(X).
@phatash187
@phatash187 7 жыл бұрын
Funfact: Played more than 500 games in my entire life til now. Own 350+ games myself. And RE4 is my most favourite game of all time. Completed it 16 times on 2 consoles. Maybe this shows you how good it is. Great video dude.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
Der Typ - I think I am at 8 - 10 times but this is also my favorite game and my favorite series.
@phatash187
@phatash187 6 жыл бұрын
Blaine Alexander Nice
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
Der Typ nudes?
@phatash187
@phatash187 6 жыл бұрын
Blaine Alexander What?
@phatash187
@phatash187 6 жыл бұрын
Blaine Alexander Well. This escalated quickly
@TJX295
@TJX295 7 жыл бұрын
The Resident Evil games may have never turned into a full blown action game (RE6) if we had gotten the original version of RE4.
@LionofDawn
@LionofDawn 6 жыл бұрын
That's not true. The series became more action oriented mainly because the idiots at capcom saw the success of the Call of Duty games and tried to get in on that, thinking that action sells better.
@shelbyherring92
@shelbyherring92 6 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but then again, if you fight the monster, it is action and if you run from the monster its horror.
@samses5397
@samses5397 6 жыл бұрын
@EpicSonicSkillz "Call of Duty does not and has not ever owned “action” All of you are just to god damn pretentious to admit that you enjoy or are envious of call of duty’s cliche action movie success year after year" Oh fuck you. People are just mad because their favorite games and many new games in general have been turned into action-oriented, watered down and simplified "muh powerfantasy" money making pieces of shit. That lore explanation is also bullshit, RE was always survival horror and the lore was only there to give a vague explanation to why the monsters are in the game. The newest RE7 title is survival horror, thus further pointing out that you're full of shit. Get your finger out of your ass, jump down from your high horse and realize there are people who actually just don't like COD and/or what's going on currently. -Edgy boi
@trashaimgamer7822
@trashaimgamer7822 6 жыл бұрын
CoD wasn't even mainstream before modern warfare and that came out years after RE4... In fact most RE games before it were already much more successful than the CoD franchise at the time.
@destroyall6597
@destroyall6597 6 жыл бұрын
How unfortunate
@commonengram5258
@commonengram5258 6 жыл бұрын
Capcom should finish the old version of the game with the black fog and make it a non canonical game just so we can experience it
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 4 жыл бұрын
I would love that! I totally agree with you
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 4 жыл бұрын
Our consoles can handle the game now
@poemboigenesis4435
@poemboigenesis4435 3 жыл бұрын
I would play it if that happens, but I'd have to get a PlayStation console first, because I chose the Nintendo Switch over it
@As_Asa_PhD
@As_Asa_PhD 5 жыл бұрын
What I like about the Resident Evil series is that it's always set in a creepy ass place like a haunted mansion, underground laboratory, derilect ship, or Africa.
@Sgtnolisten
@Sgtnolisten 5 жыл бұрын
You know, hearing about how many times they had to go back to the drawing boards for this game reminds me of similar circumstances with Dark Souls. The fact that both went on to game culture shaping status makes me wonder...
@GearShotgun
@GearShotgun 4 жыл бұрын
God I love behind the scenes info and creator commentary. Sometimes the story of how something is made is just as interesting as the end product
@ghost_3695
@ghost_3695 7 жыл бұрын
Wow really loved the video and can't really imagine the game being any different with either ororboros or a more super natural approach to the story but in I would like to see what they would have been like could have there been other good and memorial characters that never saw the light of day because they couldn't be intergrated into the world of the game and maybe even different variations of enemy's friends and slight story changes nonetheless it's pretty interesting hearing how different a game could have been if even one thing changed and I never have really thought about it like that anyway thank you for the good video swanky box and stirring up my brain
@jaydennis1999
@jaydennis1999 2 жыл бұрын
This dudes presentation style and vocal phrasing is hypnotic, which is perfect for the content.
@flyinggems1863
@flyinggems1863 7 жыл бұрын
Good to know even when the internets dying we can still rely on u swanky boc
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
Flying gem S - eh. He has some facts wrong though, but to casual fans of the series I can see why you would like this video.
@holeeshi9959
@holeeshi9959 Жыл бұрын
it's kind of cool how Resident evil repurposed previously abandoned concepts. black fog became Uroboros, hallucinations became Evelyn and Donna
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639 6 жыл бұрын
Once again, processing power (literally) changed the game.
@emergencyyadav3573
@emergencyyadav3573 3 жыл бұрын
I just love when somebody talks about resident evil.
@RaKeLN.
@RaKeLN. 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that they moved away from the paranormal stuff tbh, RE4 is good as it is, I just wish it had more puzzles.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
Raquel Navarrete I agree. That paranormal stuff looked stupid as fuck to me and didn’t belong in a RE game. But the first reveal of the game is the game I wanted. Though at that time the gameplay was super stale thanks to so many RE releases in such s short time.
@Ez_I_Dd
@Ez_I_Dd 6 жыл бұрын
Raquel Navarrete it's a horror/action game. Go play The Legend Of Zelda or something if you want more puzzles.
@lucascrass4531
@lucascrass4531 6 жыл бұрын
Blaine Alexander really dude ? It wasn't supernatural, those where hallucinations
@doranmitchell1700
@doranmitchell1700 4 жыл бұрын
RE4 technically had a decent amount of puzzles. It's just that most of them were easy except for the Ashley puzzle maybe.
@ranmouri5648
@ranmouri5648 5 жыл бұрын
For me Revelation 2 have a Silent Hill vibe in it, the creature, the flashlight, scene with barry and claire in the hospital, natalia part of gameplay, the lighting and environmental
@ashemabahumat4173
@ashemabahumat4173 7 жыл бұрын
Part of Resident Evil 4 became DMC...? Holy fuck...
@illmatticx
@illmatticx 5 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if they released early demos of Resident Evil games as remasters on current gen consoles. Like RE 1.5
@Philbatrom
@Philbatrom 6 жыл бұрын
I play lots of games and love them all but always come back to RE4. It was a big part of my childhood. It’s all I did when I go home from school in 7th and 8th grade
@thatguyontheright1
@thatguyontheright1 6 жыл бұрын
I dunno, they could have done the black fog, just made it similar to Evil Dead's Force, it does it's thing in first person with like a black haze in front of the camera.
@lazer_31
@lazer_31 5 жыл бұрын
One other thing that was changed, that could have changed the entire series was the character Sherry. In one of the early scripts, Wesker would have kidnapped Sherry, and it was Leon's mission to rescue her.
@patriciohernandez977
@patriciohernandez977 6 жыл бұрын
Shinji Mikami had this plan for the original version of RE4, unfortunately thats why he left Capcom due to them not accepting his fucked up horror, yet that is what Resident Evil is, thats why he decided to make his own and create The Evil Within.
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't know that no wonder why the evil within reminded me soo much of RE4
@Mike-ix5sv
@Mike-ix5sv 5 жыл бұрын
Late to the party as your RE4 vids are a few years old, but I love the content and love this game/series. 1 and 2 are still my favs, but 4 is a ton of fun and best of the action/linear RE games. I do a play through of 1, 2 and 4 atleast once a year. Thanks for the great content!!
@Fahmi4869
@Fahmi4869 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how's condition of Raccoon City this time? Is it destroyed completely by the nuke, or the zombies are even mutated because of the nuke radiations?
@PancakemonsterFO4
@PancakemonsterFO4 7 жыл бұрын
Fahmi4869 mutations only work on living organisms since a forceful mutation happens when the DNA-sequences of any type of cells get destroyed or altered due to ratiation or poison exposure. Because the cell acts differently now it can obtain new abilities or most likely disabilities while giving their DNA structure on to new cells. A Zombie however is a dead organism so there is no way cells reproduce or even work normally, those zombies would act as radiation sponges at max killing people through radiation poisoning
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing. After 20 something years at this point something would have been brought up in the games. As it stands now, I can’t see CAPCOM going back to Raccoon City anytime soon.
@killertofu586
@killertofu586 6 жыл бұрын
@brainbot What you're saying makes sense, but you forgot that the t and g viruses do in fact reanimate many cells while mutating certain areas of the body. Zombies will hardly have their cells regenerate though, and only essential parts to keep them "alive" will continuously "live" in that case.Those parts could mutate further with radiation, but I doubt any of that would matter because the US Army or other forces most likely were sent in to clean up everything anyway
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
You guys do realize this is a video game and CAPCOM is shit story tellers and does not give a shit about the lore right?
@johnathanmaturino1208
@johnathanmaturino1208 6 жыл бұрын
No zombies, just super mutants and deathclaws.
@leonardo-ed9kk
@leonardo-ed9kk 5 жыл бұрын
My childhood would be way different
@retrobear9367
@retrobear9367 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they would finish the alt RE4 and release it. The game looks awesome.
@tidepoolclipper8657
@tidepoolclipper8657 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the actual reason for that build of Resident Evil 4 being scrapped was that switching between two worlds real time would have been too much even for the GameCube's RAM.
@hbkjose1
@hbkjose1 6 жыл бұрын
The 20xx joke earned my sub
@randomdudewalkingdownthest8158
@randomdudewalkingdownthest8158 5 жыл бұрын
I don't get it
@johnsorrow1987
@johnsorrow1987 6 жыл бұрын
I love Resident Evil 4 just the way it is. I still want to play that beta version.
@Xrueo
@Xrueo 7 жыл бұрын
Great video I love it and keep up the good work
@jameswinchester5423
@jameswinchester5423 5 жыл бұрын
We got the merchant so I think it’s an even trade
@snazzybagpipe7037
@snazzybagpipe7037 Жыл бұрын
I think a re show like “what if…” would be awesome with story’s like the old re4 builds or even a re4 directors cut with the old story
@codsamanta
@codsamanta 5 жыл бұрын
A dear friend and role model of mine told me that Success = The sum of the failures + 1. And you know what? It IS true. Everytime you mess up, you are a step closer to doing great things, because you learn what not to do. I personally can't even begin to imagine things differently because they are so good the way they are. I bet they were so upset and frustrated when things didn't go the way they originally intended them to go but, in the end, they didn't give up and it truly paid off.
@whitejayz4655
@whitejayz4655 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the original vision of re4 to be made, maybe as a spinoff or something
@TheHuskyGT
@TheHuskyGT 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best and most influential games of all time would have never been born (RE4). Just stop and think how many games have been inspired by RE4... All those game would have not existed.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
TheHuskyGT what sucks is how RE5 and 6 copies other games, forgetting that those games copied them. I blame this on the main RE producers/directors leaving to form platinum games
@TheHuskyGT
@TheHuskyGT 6 жыл бұрын
I feel the problem is that RE4 was so unique, so groundbreaking and near perfect in every aspect, that besting it was pretty much impossible. Capcom hit a wall, and the only way to get it right again was revamping the whole series. Thankfully they did, and despite a lot won't agree, RE7 is that rebirth or RE. It took me a while to like RE5, but it ended up having a lot of replay value, and it's tremendously fun in co-op. RE6 was... not good. Except for the Leon chapter.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
TheHuskyGT - I thought RE6 was much better than RE5. RE6 should have been RE5 but with the a different story. I am glad the revamped RE with 7 but I feel it should have been a complete reboot and not a soft reboot.
@fallensurvivor21
@fallensurvivor21 6 жыл бұрын
All the titles are good! ^__^
@MakaveliDior
@MakaveliDior 6 жыл бұрын
King Maximoff Nope
@imbetterthanyou3088
@imbetterthanyou3088 5 жыл бұрын
So RE7 is what Re4 should have been?
@legatelanius88462
@legatelanius88462 3 жыл бұрын
RE4 turned out perfect and if those alternate timelines had come to pass, I dont think RE would be around today. Best game of all time.
@phil_matic
@phil_matic 6 жыл бұрын
If we're going back to early 2000's, the year would be 200X, not 20XX
@wisemansagetheunknown171
@wisemansagetheunknown171 5 жыл бұрын
the situation with jill and chris could of still happened but chris had to retreat and spencer used the B.O.W. to turn into the fog as a means to survive they then sent leon in to investigate only to find the fog and kills it......would make for a great prequel to RE4....and could explain why he was already in the region.,,,
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the RE5 flashback where Wesker kills Spencer and Chris and Jill fought Wesker as well as the Lost in Nightmares DLC was based on what RE4 was originally going to be.
@Yoxiv
@Yoxiv 6 жыл бұрын
It probably was a precursor to Ouroboros given that RE4 was meant to involve the progenitor virus, and even see Leon be infected by it. Leon getting infected does seem to have at one point been a big thing with Capcom, as he's apparently infected/replaced by the monster in the non-canon Gaiden game on Gameboy Color, and was originally set to appear alongside Claire in Code Veronica, which may have led to him being infected and dying like with Steve. Of course, a lot of plot threads changed over the years, given Leon originally made the rallying cry to stop Umbrella in RE2, only to then mostly just play messenger for Claire in Code Veronica and train up to become a secret agent.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
Yoxiv I feel like the writers really want to kill off Leon but CAPCOM never lets them
@Yoxiv
@Yoxiv 6 жыл бұрын
+Blaine Alexander That's what I said, it feels like they were setting up Leon to be killed off at some point, but then chickened every time (replacing him with Steve, the GBC game being both non-canon and unclear if the real Leon is still alive, the plagas infection in RE4 being removed before it got too serious).
@lokalnyork
@lokalnyork 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad instead of one game in predictable setting (spoopy Umbrella castle!) we've got two great stories: one in non-Umbrella castle and other with this cool enemy in Africa.
@jaycutlerfan666
@jaycutlerfan666 4 жыл бұрын
Considering that Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 have now been remastered, I’m curious to see if they will remaster Resident Evil 4, and if such is the case, would they be willing to release the original planned Resident Evil 4.
@jeromyperez5532
@jeromyperez5532 5 жыл бұрын
The black fog could have worked on the Gamecube, but it appears that they didn't want to sacrifice graphical fidelity. I feel confident that a few particle emitters blasting black smoke and fog textures would have sold the effect just fine for that era, and the tendrils could be done in under 500 Polys for sure and still be presentable as a non-cutscene model. It's more likely that that's just an excuse. Particle handling on the Gamecube was decent, it couldn't compete with the original Xbox of that time, but it could simulate hundreds of particles at a time, though most games stayed under 50ish at any one time. Even that for a gamecube game is pretty generous to accomplish a bunch of tentacles cloaked in black fog. But from what I've read and seen, it appears that it wasn't just the black fog creature. There were several enemies that were intended to have dynamic light sources and translucency with minor displacement to give the effect of being ethereal. It appears the whole game was going to be more graphically demanding with Leon's jacket having dynamic windforce physics, and feature more interconnected rooms before having to deal with loading screens. TBH, the Gamecube was the holdup, but I don't think it's just for graphical reasons. The gamecube was also a struggling system that tightened up the timeframe to develop the game, the window to experiment was pretty brief and Capcom wanted to get RE4 to market as soon as they could. Especially with a lot of assets and team members being assigned to the production of the first Devil May Cry, it's no wonder. I think I get the point of the video though, the black fog was a hangup, but more relevant to the video, is that it's a hangup that affected the plot going forward. Which is interesting to think about. But eh, the gamecube could have easily handled the black fog.
@TheBic4
@TheBic4 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they didn’t do the black fog. Sometimes resident evil games goes too far with the monsters and makes it hard too suspend any disbelief, which In turn makes it not a scary game and just an action one.
@thomasdevlin5825
@thomasdevlin5825 5 жыл бұрын
The more supernatural elements honestly could have worked if they did it right, in the final version of re4 when I first saw suits of armor jumping off their pedestals to attack me my first thought was something supernatural, but then you shoot off their helmets and see that they are just being controlled by a massive plaga (easily my favorite enemy btw) when I saw the evil dolls in that clip it instantly reminded me of those armored plaga, so maybe their explanation could have been something similar. That coupled with leon hallucinating could have made for a believable story
@gsp3987
@gsp3987 5 жыл бұрын
We got hallucinations in RE7... Can you say Evie?
@eclipse9304
@eclipse9304 6 жыл бұрын
most games with long standing franchises are designed around the limitations of the time, really it's nothing to get too bummed by.
@lover0099
@lover0099 4 жыл бұрын
I think that if this game was released, many people wouldn´t know the saga, i definietly wouldn´t, it was my first RE and i was fascinated by the gameplay and story, it´s one of the most popular games not only of the saga, but in the gaming world.
@roughy762004
@roughy762004 6 жыл бұрын
What I want to know, "Did Wesker have his way with Jill while she was under his control?"
@Cr1ms0nRav3n
@Cr1ms0nRav3n 6 жыл бұрын
I remember reading in the resident evil wiki that Albert Wesker is asexual. He has absolutely no interest in sex or rather he cant. His brain doesn't operate with that function like ours. He's just an evil genius who manipulates people around him for his main goals. Excella in RE5 showed him affection but he just brushed her off and eventually injected her with Ouroboros, to stop Chris and Sheva, since she served her purpose and was no longer needed.
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
Cr1ms0nRav3n - the wiki is by no means canon. They just made that shit up to explain why he wasn’t getting laid like a badass. The way I see it he was banging Excella and he also raped Jill.
@roughy762004
@roughy762004 6 жыл бұрын
Cr1ms0nRav3n but Wesker's SON is a main character in RE6
@blainealexander5091
@blainealexander5091 6 жыл бұрын
roughy762004 - exactly!
@DARKHEARTEDWICKEDNESS
@DARKHEARTEDWICKEDNESS 6 жыл бұрын
hope one day they remake the first version of RE4
@mr.bootleg424
@mr.bootleg424 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like we can thank the 3.5 prototypes for both Uroboros and the E-Type Mutamycete.
@Chuckyboy85
@Chuckyboy85 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was scrapped. Resident Evil 4 is a masterpiece.
@neon_plaza9693
@neon_plaza9693 4 жыл бұрын
Ger Re3.5 could also be a masterpiece.
@Reaping21
@Reaping21 6 жыл бұрын
capcom should make a new game with the supernatural aspect
@Tekirai
@Tekirai 4 жыл бұрын
The original story that I’m pissed off about still is that the story had Leon going to save sherry from wesker like wesker’s report was to be a ‘prelude’ to RE 4. Hence Ashley was originally supposed to be sherry
@pumpkemm-5124
@pumpkemm-5124 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it worked out the way it did back then. However, right now I want more psychological suffering intertwined with the gameplay in the RE games especially with main characters like Chris or Leon. Now is a good time to bring back ideas/elements considered in the original scrapped RE4 game. The heros like Chris, Leon, Jill, Ada have spent their lives attempting to survive what is a living hell, the RE universe. There should be a lot more trauma that doesnt just vanish by the end of the game/movie wrapped up in a pretty little package. In RE6 there is certainly a lot of emotional suffering with Chris but its (1) not enough a part of the gameplay (2) it ends up being wrapped up at the end of the game in a pretty package solved (3) it isnt enough emotional trauma considering RE universe is living hell. I like the idea of original re4 involving leon haunted but i think it suits chris more as a character. Krauser could have been perfect for this but now I think Chris could become something along the lines of a harvey dent, where the bsaa's golden boy finally breaks or becomes an aware yet evil bow himself or is haunted or whatever variant. With Leon it would be cool to see that his infection during RE4 has done damage to his body under the radar & he starts having physical health problems which interact with gameplay somehow. If capcom wants to make the gameplay more scary because their leads seem too strong, making chris emotionally crippled &/or leon physically crippled could be nerf ideas esp. since story line seemed to be headed in a more dramatic/serious direction in re7. It looks like ReREV3 is going in that direction though with natalia.
@ChillNx2
@ChillNx2 6 жыл бұрын
A paranormal RE would've been so GD DOPPEEE!!! :'D
@repghost9481
@repghost9481 Жыл бұрын
it was a blessing in disguise i wouldn’t have the game any other way
@brotatochimp
@brotatochimp 6 жыл бұрын
feels like the supernatural resident evil story and design became the evil within.
@wtfgus93
@wtfgus93 6 жыл бұрын
imo the biggest factor was detroying umbrella offscreen in the intro of 4
@warmac88
@warmac88 7 жыл бұрын
Great video bro!
@eftihisbalomenakis2501
@eftihisbalomenakis2501 6 жыл бұрын
Your point with the gamecube not being able to handle the fog seems good, but I heard that they scrapped the old RE4 and turned it into Devil may cry. They felt that it was not realistic, Leon was having those hallucinations because of the Virus. So it explains the Supernatural things but they still didn't make sense. it was like a different game. Thats why i heard that they dropped it. and began anew. Love from Greece!
@melvin5096
@melvin5096 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, while you're right about the black fog/alpha uroboros. The reason RE4 v2 didn't work was because RE has never been a series about the super natural, it felt completely out of place. But because the game was about 60-70% finished they just retooled the whole game with a new protagonist . . . Who else from capcom has his first game in a castle fighting supernatural things? ? . . . Yeah, Dante. RE4 v2 Hookman version was retooled to be Devil May Cry, it's why his model in DMC loosely resembles a Leon with a red jacket and white hair. And why the first DMC has the Fixed camera angles *just like* RE 1, 2, 3 and Code Veronica. While Hookman RE4 could've been interesting, just as you said them not going with it and instead handing it over to another studio to retool it, got us the best of both worlds. RE4 Final which completely renovated 3rd person shooters, gave us the usual Leon and Ada cycle (2,4,6). And also gave us the best hack and slash game series ever made until Platinum made bayonetta and basically perfected the genre. So yeah, somehow through all it's trials RE4 ended up giving us an amazing sequel and an amazing series on another genre.
@Ma121Hunter
@Ma121Hunter 6 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you on them not recycling the black fog or similar enemies that were featured in a previous game. Every game up until 4 has recurring enemies and bosses. Truth be told, Re4 is perhaps one of the better games to point to in regards of having the most unique creatures in general.
@Sammedi1
@Sammedi1 6 жыл бұрын
They really shat on the Game Cube, first they promised RE 4 would be a GC exclusive and second the PS 2 version came out with extras the GC community never got.
@ratonynavaja3739
@ratonynavaja3739 6 жыл бұрын
It would have been better perhaps not for the game, but for the franchise as a whole because RE4 itself is almost perfect except for the main enemies being spainyards, but the acceptance and praise of the game with the ganado spainyards gave capcom a green light to create more enemies like them such as majinis from RE5
@scotto3199
@scotto3199 6 жыл бұрын
Just like with Half-Life "Betas" - it's interesting to see every universe's development splitted by the success on some early stages, hell, could you imagine Leon with white hair in a red trench coat with sword fighting Albert Wesker in his weird BOW-ish parasitic armor and his Ultra Violet sword in Spencer's castle? How weird it is that I somehow can, but would never trade this or any other fate of that game for the real existing one.
@VichyGlitterGun
@VichyGlitterGun 6 жыл бұрын
I love resident evil 4! But but but, the original direction sounds so awesome!! And if it would have changed the future games even better, they should start over after resident evil 4, the 5 and 6 never happened resident evil 8 takes place after 4, 5 and 6 is a prediction Chris has, to stop everything from happening he takes contact with Leon and they pursue Albert, Jill teams up with them, the bring Barry, Ada and Claire along and has a plan to prevent the future we know from happening, man that would be cool, maybe they would be able to change Albert to join their side. I don’t know the 5 and 6 story makes no sense so I just want a reboot after 4 haha
@ahmedmurad5552
@ahmedmurad5552 5 жыл бұрын
This video = Me when I unnecessarily overthink something over and over and over
@mech-dragon1445
@mech-dragon1445 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I was Wesker. We all wish we were Wesker.
@Levanaell
@Levanaell 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have only one observation: if fog ver. and hook man ver. would ever happened, RE would be really Silent Hillish... and we saw issues with this, when early RE7 was showed as the Kitchen demo. And we need to ask ourselves - in one of the versions, Leon was supposed to be infected with progenitor virus. Question is: would it be the same type of infection that led Wesker to be super-human? And maybe it would change Leon's overall charcteristics - maybe he would became power hungry villain. That would be an epic plot twist! :D and the whole series would drastically change.
@neon_plaza9693
@neon_plaza9693 4 жыл бұрын
Levanaell Leon was infected by Fog
@Theottselmaster
@Theottselmaster 6 жыл бұрын
I wish they would bring back that first version even if its not resident evil it looked so damn cool.
@PaintedZeus-
@PaintedZeus- 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else want them to finish the original builds or atleast modders to find them and make them playable
@CadenPlays5000
@CadenPlays5000 5 жыл бұрын
In all honesty though, I hate that 2nd Oroboros boss fight. So difficult. I'm planning on doing handgun only and uploading!
@robotpolice2042
@robotpolice2042 6 жыл бұрын
Just with Resident Evil 2 remake around the corner I can only imagine years later down the road whenever Resident Evil 4 it gets every master think about it?..🤔crazyy...😰
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 4 жыл бұрын
Re3 Is getting a remaster it comes out in April hopefully they remake RE4 as well that would make me so happy
@shelbyherring92
@shelbyherring92 6 жыл бұрын
Didnt someone create a horror game about a black fog mold spore or something? It takes place in like a polar research center in Alaska or anarctica?
@Paladin_Zero
@Paladin_Zero 6 жыл бұрын
Wait the ghost guy was part of RE4? On gamecube? I've never seen this
@nonope4390
@nonope4390 6 жыл бұрын
"Wesker's spell"
@mojojoji5493
@mojojoji5493 5 жыл бұрын
The game we got looks way better then the paranormal stuff, having it only zombies and creeps, lol, grounds the game into a more “and I’m really stretching here for this” believable world
@neutralhero999
@neutralhero999 6 жыл бұрын
I always assumed beta RE4 was supposed to be Evil Within, what with the lack of actual B.O.W.s and appearances of paranormal entities.
@SamJDH
@SamJDH 6 жыл бұрын
A console's hardware should never hold back the creative potential of a game. What a fucking shame. I love RE4 but I also would have loved to see what Shinji Mikami's original idea would have created.
@FlamingBallads
@FlamingBallads 6 жыл бұрын
If the Gamecube couldn't handle the Black Fog then could the PS2 or Wii? We know that the game was first ported to those consoles after the Gamecube's success. If not then we would have to had waited for the HD version of the game to see the Black Fog introduced.
@walmartian422
@walmartian422 Жыл бұрын
Im so glad they did what they did re4 is one of the greatest games ever made.
@burnur8526
@burnur8526 7 жыл бұрын
If re4 was different it would not be my favorite game of all time
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