How One Pilot's Greed Killed 71 People | Brazilian Disaster

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Mini Air Crash Investigation

Mini Air Crash Investigation

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@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
you might wanna turn on captions from 0:32 to 0:45 oops!
@gregmhastings
@gregmhastings 2 жыл бұрын
I reallywish you would cover World Airways 30 in Boston. Its an intriguing crash and includes 2 missing bodies. I hope you can cover it
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
Added to the list
@ScottDLR
@ScottDLR 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I missed all that. (Thumbs up anyway!)
@bytesback.
@bytesback. 2 жыл бұрын
Needed a new set of ear drums anyway ;)
@arnaudt3935
@arnaudt3935 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprising.. but we all know this is exceptional !
@AlanTheBest97
@AlanTheBest97 2 жыл бұрын
Im Brazillian and this accident just shocked the whole country for many months. This team was living its peak, they came out of nowhere and just started to win everything. Their hometown was minuscule and they were on a hot hot winning streak at the time of the accident, a complete tragedy. In fact, you forgot to mention that the captain had an actual financial stake on the company, he was one of the owners I belive.
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 жыл бұрын
It was a feel-good sports story that ran into the greed and callousness of the flight crew and the company for which they worked (and as one of the commenters noted, had an ownership stake in).
@abhilasdas2838
@abhilasdas2838 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, saving a few litres of fuel through cut-throat measures will bring the company out of the abyss
@cornvilleconsigliere966
@cornvilleconsigliere966 2 жыл бұрын
Ok and now that makes sense. I couldn't understand why the pilot would be motivated to skimp on fuel but having a stake in the company shows it was greed. Thanks for the addition to the story..that must've been awful for that area. Gambling with people's lives is absolutely abominable and anyone in that company who was complicit should be in jail. Thanks again man ..✌️💪❤️
@johnthompson457
@johnthompson457 8 ай бұрын
It shocked the whole world.
@camila8031
@camila8031 2 жыл бұрын
Brazilian here 👋 most of the chapecoense football team and staff didn't survive and the survivors/their rescue stories is very shocking so it turned out a very big case here.. the captain was one of the owners of the company so the first office just went along with it and he didn't declare emergency because he knew if authorities discovered he willingly didn't get enough fuel the consequences would be big so somehow he thought it would be okay to risk all these lives (guess he was certain he could get away with it) it's a very sad and angering case that Brasil will never forget
@psicaiomantese
@psicaiomantese 2 жыл бұрын
Not only the soccer team boarded this plane, some sports journalist were in the flight as well, and perished as well...
@thomashind4835
@thomashind4835 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this explaination- I was trying to figure out how the pilot’s “greed” had anything to do with it as in the title. It makes perfect sense if he was an owner
@crp5591
@crp5591 2 жыл бұрын
May want to re-edit and re-upload the video.. Can't hear you in a section of the video.. Can't make out some important details of what is going on.
@gregandkaruna6674
@gregandkaruna6674 2 жыл бұрын
It's only 13 seconds and if you have headphones you can still hear what he is saying
@sabbottart
@sabbottart 2 жыл бұрын
Subtitles lol
@pahvi3
@pahvi3 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sabbottart many of us are just listening
@crp5591
@crp5591 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabbottart Oh Yeah! Subtitles! Derp!! I always forget that feature exists!
@SuperNuclearUnicorn
@SuperNuclearUnicorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregandkaruna6674 that still shouldn't be necessary
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
Another classic example of “if you think safety is expensive, try having an accident.”
@NoName-sb9tp
@NoName-sb9tp 2 жыл бұрын
From 0:32 to 0:45, the sound of the jet is so loud that it overpower your voice. Still, a nice video, thank you 👍
@MagoLP
@MagoLP 2 жыл бұрын
Jets are loud, what did you expect? 😂😂😂
@jomofo42
@jomofo42 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagoLP I would expect the title of the video to be "Super Loud Jet with Barely Audible Mumbling Underneath"!
@bepowerification
@bepowerification 2 жыл бұрын
@@jomofo42 because of a 13 second mishap in a 10 minute video? Get a life
@someguysomewhere6988
@someguysomewhere6988 2 жыл бұрын
@@bepowerification nothing wrong with putting out good quality
@NoName-sb9tp
@NoName-sb9tp 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagoLP “I CAN’T HEAR YOU, WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING AND CRYING AT THE SAME TIME!!!!?”
@murray871
@murray871 2 жыл бұрын
I have worked in the air charter industry for many years. To me, none of this behavior was shocking. This mentality is omnipresent in the world of air charter - executive, passenger and to higher extend in cargo. The smaller the fleet, the more "hands-on" management types are working the cockpits or dispatch. If you can avoid any monetary costs you will do that - you sold the flight for a fixed rate, often in a fierce competition, and have next to zero chances to recover anymore funds from clients once the flight is done. This is a very global problem and in no way limited to any region.
@molly9582
@molly9582 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, before I read about it I just assumed airlines weren’t working on a very thin profit margin. Not a defense for all their many failings, but I just didn’t know the expenses, problems that can arise with scheduling, etc. All cost-cutting measures and bad workplace practices flow from there.
@johnrroberts7900
@johnrroberts7900 2 жыл бұрын
A company must get out of the industry if it has to operate like this. Competition is obviously not always healthy. I don't like monopolies either, but the blood shed by the dead and living must ensure safety trumps at all costs. If it is a non-profitable route for which the government feels there is a need, tender out to have one carrier fly it with the government subsidising fuel costs through tax reduction, etc where necessary.
@Uldihaa
@Uldihaa 2 жыл бұрын
But in this case, not getting enough fuel is foolish. It's not like any excess fuel goes to waste. It just means you don't need to pay for quite as much fuel for the next flight.
@andyprem
@andyprem 2 жыл бұрын
but that additional fuel is not a loss is it because you can use it for the next flight?
@PedroPaisPP
@PedroPaisPP 2 жыл бұрын
@@Uldihaa that’s not exactly true. If your plane is heavier it will increase fuel burn. So fuel reserve you carry has a fuel burn penalty. And this adds up over time
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 2 жыл бұрын
If u have to fly to another country to catch ur charter flight, coz said charter company isnt allowed to fly in ur country - take that as a HUGE hint to find a different charter company! That said, this made headlines for weeks over here in Europe too. Such a tragedy and so avoidable. RIP.
@dout0rm942
@dout0rm942 Жыл бұрын
They were allowed to operate in Brazil. What they weren't allowed to do was fly between two foreign nations, without going through Bolivia, where they were registered.
@Mark13091961
@Mark13091961 2 жыл бұрын
Any aircraft accident where lives are lost is tragic, but I think these which are entirely preventable with basic airmanship and procedures in place are perhaps the most tragic
@OwlRTA
@OwlRTA 2 жыл бұрын
There was also something here that made the crew think that they would have enough fuel for the journey. They did this a bunch of times, with this fuel amount, but in the reverse journey. However, the reverse journey takes less fuel, as Medellin is higher in elevation than Viru Viru.
@anhedonianepiphany5588
@anhedonianepiphany5588 2 жыл бұрын
One of the pilots almost certainly manually disabled the CVR. I don’t think anyone would argue against this if they’re being objective.
@molly9582
@molly9582 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The only other examples of anyone in the cockpit deliberately doing this that I can think of are suicide/mass murders by pilots/hijackers like Tsu Way Ming of SilkAir 185 or Auburn Calloway of FedEx 705. The captain of this LaMia flight wasn’t murderous, but it tells you he was about just as ethical.
@martinkirugi254
@martinkirugi254 2 жыл бұрын
The pilot was also one of its owners thus the copilot had a fear to correct his boss. Then they were given a more direct route in-flight and the captain saw no need for landing to refuel. They accepted to hold for long before landing probably for fear of questioning and eventually used up the fuel they were short of. It was a sad tragedy for the football family.
@fredrickthuo7263
@fredrickthuo7263 Жыл бұрын
A Kenyan gets it because this is the corruption we have to go through every day of our lives
@FinnishLapphund
@FinnishLapphund 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always a bit amazed when hearing about pilots who gets sucked into a dangerous behaviour by their company, and management. I presume it's something they got gradually desensitized about, but it still feels weird that a pilot's self-preservation sense doesn't prevent them from taking off in an airplane with barely enough fuel to get them from A to B, and zero room for any hiccups on the way.
@hxor
@hxor 2 жыл бұрын
First thing they should've done was declare an emergency.
@streettrialsandstuff
@streettrialsandstuff 2 жыл бұрын
It's just that you get used to risk. That's human nature. Happens to me as well (not as a pilot, which I am not).
@AttilaAsztalos
@AttilaAsztalos 2 жыл бұрын
Their self preservation sense is dead and buried after the very first time they got away with it. It's basic human nature. The takeaway for 99% of people is "see, not such a big deal at all", only 1% go "shit this could have went so much worse, I better not do this ever again".
@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA 2 жыл бұрын
Someone said in these comments that the captain was management - was in fact the owner. But I don’t know. Edit: Yes, according to Wikipedia the captain was co-owner of and instructor for the airline. Fox guarding the henhouse I say.
@mikes4163
@mikes4163 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly the human nature bit (for males at least) is just pride. "I'd rather die than admit I got it wrong." More prevalent in some cultures where status has a high profile. I really feel safer with an all female cockpit crew (I'm male).
@lindakate3239
@lindakate3239 2 жыл бұрын
Thank-you from Australia!! 🇦🇺👋 I rarely ever comment on YT - but your content is exceptional, so thanks for doing what you do! - Warm regards from a Qantas crew member & huge fan of your work x
@preferableyoutuber5481
@preferableyoutuber5481 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, now isn't that an actual hottie and not just some triple coded bot ☕
@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock
@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock 2 жыл бұрын
With hosties like this, Australia truly is the lucky country 💕
@kenwaldron8548
@kenwaldron8548 2 жыл бұрын
I’m reading the comments and it’s the first time really hearing how an accident affected the country. I’m in the United States and an accident will be in the news for 24-48 hours and then nothing
@MrBrno
@MrBrno 2 жыл бұрын
This particular plane accident involved an entire football team about to play an international championship final. Imagine that as if it happened with the Golden State Warriors or the Red Sox. It would be a major tragedy and a sad loss for the world.
@kenwaldron8548
@kenwaldron8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrno most definitely ! When an ex president son died in a plane crash they ran that story forever
@oreoornithomimus2454
@oreoornithomimus2454 2 жыл бұрын
Also if i remember, the flight was supposed to leave 1 hour earlier but one of the team members stopped the flight to retrieve a video game from their suitcase in the cargo hold.
@CG-ej8nu
@CG-ej8nu 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you mean 11:07? 💀
@pissant145
@pissant145 2 жыл бұрын
That only delayed the flight with about 15-20 mins. Besides, no matter what, the "scheduled stop" was planned to take place AFTER the cordihja airport closed anyway.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 2 жыл бұрын
@@pissant145 The pilot could have still landed at Cordihja Airport even if it was closed.
@pdog547
@pdog547 2 жыл бұрын
@@pissant145 Delays are very common - there's no way that could have led to what happened. Even a layman like me knows that planes are required to carry extra fuel in case something like this happens. This is all on the pilot, and the 1st officer who is supposed to be a failsafe/backup to errors by the pilot.
@pissant145
@pissant145 2 жыл бұрын
@@redblade8160 sure, but why? They would not have been able to refuel anyway.
@Pit1993x
@Pit1993x 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how a part of the video feels like it was recorded on location. :P
@trent3872
@trent3872 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a special on this on ESPN, they did a documentary about their success and how much they were loved by the town. Horrible tragedy.
@jiyushugi1085
@jiyushugi1085 2 жыл бұрын
The term is: 'normalization of deviance.' When deviating from safe practices becomes normal behavior bad things happen.
@Kudzai2010
@Kudzai2010 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fantastic content as always man. I also wish you a speedy recovery with your throat as well and we are very grateful you took the time to give us more content 🙏
@hack1n8r
@hack1n8r 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why the pilots did not declare a low fuel emergency, was because that doing so would have exposed the pilot & his company's shady, and possibly illegal practices. The exposure would have been the "final nail in the coffin" for the company, and for the pilot's career. It would have been FAR BETTER for that company and the career of its pilots to have died first -- at least these people's lives would have been spared. Instead, they were killed as a direct result of the criminal actions of the struggling company. Hopefully, the company's executives were sentenced and thrown in a federal penitentiary for their crimes. I know I'm making an extremely strong statement. To be clear, I'm not against companies trying to make a profit. But when a company has a blatant disregard for people's lives, that company must be shut down before lives are actually lost.
@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock
@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you don't need to apologise to imaginary anti communist police
@danniballecter7936
@danniballecter7936 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the Captain was one of the co-owners for the company.
@boozypixels
@boozypixels 2 жыл бұрын
This pilot would've been a prime Aerosucre candidate had he survived
@pdog547
@pdog547 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - sometimes cutting corners is fatal. So sad 70 other people had to die because of it.
@LuluDrakonite
@LuluDrakonite 2 жыл бұрын
Out of interest (and sorry if you mention it after I posted this) if they declared "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday. Low fuel" who would have gotten priority landing between the fuel leak and the low fuel?
@nonna_sof5889
@nonna_sof5889 2 жыл бұрын
It is very possible in todays environment. Greed isn't going away anytime soon, which is why it's important for regulators to remain vigilant to prevent it getting in the way of safety.
@roderickcampbell2105
@roderickcampbell2105 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nonna. Agreed. Human behavior including greed is not going away. One of the elements in these stories is that those making these decisions are taking their own lives at risk. Hubris I suppose.
@nokiarave
@nokiarave 2 жыл бұрын
Love you!!!! Thanks for your work!!!!
@camillabrifjord727
@camillabrifjord727 2 жыл бұрын
Of course they stopped the CVR.
@steveedward5074
@steveedward5074 2 жыл бұрын
Running out of gas in a plane is really stupid.
@OKingSizeTv
@OKingSizeTv 2 жыл бұрын
This one hits close to home. An absolute tragedy.
@mauricedavis2160
@mauricedavis2160 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and informative episode Sir, thank you!!!🙏😢🛫
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your work. Thanks for making great content.
@ahronrichards9611
@ahronrichards9611 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful content, as always. Keep it up. It's important to save money as much as possible, but not at the expense of the life of a person. In this case it was 77 (only 6 survived). No amount of money could ever be worth the life of a person and to see and know that because of efficiency and cost-cutting that so many people lost their lives is, in my opinion, criminal. And to make it worse, the pilots tried to cover it up. Sad.
@tamahagane1700
@tamahagane1700 Жыл бұрын
Fine visuals and script. These concise videos are more apealing to me than some well established big-bucks production documentaries featured on cable TV, which I regularly watched for more than a decade.
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
This is nuts. In the US, and here in Australia I’d imagine, if you hit final reserve fuel, it is an automatic mayday declaration, and I believe upon landing the CVR breaker must be pulled as a final reserve event requires FAA etc. investigation.
@AtomicMiz18
@AtomicMiz18 2 жыл бұрын
You're awesome man
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
youre awesomer!
@AtomicMiz18
@AtomicMiz18 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation I have what I think may be a really good idea for a video / city of series. You want to hear it?
@AtomicMiz18
@AtomicMiz18 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an FAA certified uas operator. I do some work for the DoD and a couple other government agencies. I'm not just a random person I have some insight into things. It would take a while to type so let me know if you're interested
@AtomicMiz18
@AtomicMiz18 2 жыл бұрын
Video series**
@AtomicMiz18
@AtomicMiz18 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation not interested?
@asteverino8569
@asteverino8569 2 жыл бұрын
I accepted the short segment where the sound effects drowned you . It's okay, MACI.
@988nightwatch
@988nightwatch 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video, but I have one small problem. In the beginning of the video, the animation of the engine, the noise was over loud that it was hard to hear you. That's all, can not wait for the next one.
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
As for the CVR being disabled, I can reasonably say *maybe* but it depends how long they were gliding. The CVR and FDR have multiple sources of power. One is from the 110VAC 400Hz bus (there are probably at least two of these feeding the recorders, but don’t quote me), but the other is from the 28VDC bus, which is battery-derived, although the battery is mainly used for APU starting. In an emergency, it is guaranteed to provide enough power for emergency systems for a minimum of 20 minutes. Basic avionics, basic flight controls, emergency lighting in cockpit and cabin, and the recorders. I can’t imagine these planes having a ram air turbine, so once you lose all engines, you’re on battery. But the recorders can be powered from the battery, yes.
@danniballecter7936
@danniballecter7936 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he says the CVR stopped working before the plane ran out of fuel. Which leads me to think that the captain did pull the circuit breaker.
@theresacaron4238
@theresacaron4238 2 жыл бұрын
When greed is involved in any aircraft operation, the eventual result is death as greed overrides safety all the time. Self-preservation is ignored by the crew in those cases and innocent lives are lost.
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 жыл бұрын
This is why certain industries need a lot of oversight.
@fabianzimmermann5495
@fabianzimmermann5495 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this crash happened. A few days after the crash, newspapers were hailing the captain as a hero for dropping fuel before trying to land. I was very sceptical about that story, because it made no sense to me, that the captain would want to drop fuel in an emergency, before landing at his target airport. Why would he do that? Weight wouldn't be an issue and in an emergency, you need to get to the ground asap. Unfortunately, that was at the beginning of my interest in plane crashes, so I didn't know enough to argue against what the newspapers said. (This plane can't even drop fuel in the first place, but I only learned that later unfortunately.) But when I heard later, that the captain fucked up, I was quite satisfied with knowing, that my instinct on the matter had been correct. Ironically, at the exact time, this happened, we had a class project, doing some short stop motion films. The one my group did was about a plane almost crashing and being saved by the pilot.
@Persian-Immortal
@Persian-Immortal 2 жыл бұрын
Never trust the newspapers and media in general. According to them planes flap their wings.
@theurchin65
@theurchin65 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. You have a great voice for these videos. 👏👏
@maxtornogood
@maxtornogood 2 жыл бұрын
The footbal player wanting his game is what broke the camel's back after the airline's all around mismanagement!
@Worldopain
@Worldopain 2 жыл бұрын
They def didn't have a nafety for safety.
@TheFULLMETALCHEF
@TheFULLMETALCHEF 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, everything was intentionally done by the pilots.
@melglobus
@melglobus 2 жыл бұрын
That is really dark that the pilots turned off the CVR - kind of implies that they thought crashing was a significant possibility… but I agree, they totally turned it off on purpose
@pdog547
@pdog547 2 жыл бұрын
@@melglobus They knew they screwed up big time, seemed like they were more concerned with their reputation than the lives of the passengers. Really sad story, totally unnecessary.
@larrybaker5316
@larrybaker5316 2 жыл бұрын
and that's why i don't fly today, your life is totally in the hands of a pilot or mechanic that might do something stupid, ain't gettin' on another aluminum death trap
@cowsgoloka
@cowsgoloka 2 жыл бұрын
You are a realised soul. The aluminium death trap is designed so nicely, all the rats love to get inside and try their luck out. I second your comments. It's all about money
@tomdavis3038
@tomdavis3038 2 жыл бұрын
Statistically it’s the safest way to travel. I don’t fly due to airport inconveniences and unruly passengers. Cheers
@robertfitzjohn4755
@robertfitzjohn4755 2 жыл бұрын
But you'll travel in an automobile, even though that's been shown to be one of the riskiest of everyday activities?
@phuketexplorer
@phuketexplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos, but the constant cheesy questions, asking for comments, is getting a bit tiresome! 😉
@maraudx
@maraudx 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, suggesting interactions to “bump the algorithm” does get annoying for sure. It’s not like it’s a live feed.
@mauricedavis2160
@mauricedavis2160 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the voice recorder was disabled on purpose by the captain, unfortunately!!!🙏😢🛫⚖️
@tomdavis3038
@tomdavis3038 2 жыл бұрын
Ya think?
@mauricedavis2160
@mauricedavis2160 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomdavis3038 absolutely scandalous, deadly scandalous!!!🙏😢🛫⚖️🤔
@gusmc01
@gusmc01 2 жыл бұрын
Senseless loss of life. Despite the terrible decision to take off without enough fuel, they still could have landed safely if he would have just declared a fuel emergency.
@PauperJ
@PauperJ 2 жыл бұрын
We're one day closer to seeing MACI's 200K live-stream flight from Tuxtla (TGZ) to Lincoln (LNK) with his TU-144.
@canfly737
@canfly737 2 жыл бұрын
As mentioned below, please check your sound thanks 🙏.
@SVnerd
@SVnerd 2 жыл бұрын
I've never felt so enraged but such negligent, nay criminal action by the pilot.
@yakacm
@yakacm 2 жыл бұрын
Press C to get the captions in the bit where the engine noise is playing.
@dclemen123
@dclemen123 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the pilot unplugged the voice recorder.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching a video on the safety statistics of general aviation. I pointed out that the statistics don't really tell you much about your actual chances of making a safe flight. Statistics are good at telling us what to expect when randomness plays a large roll. But randomness doesn't play a large roll in general aviation. This branch of aviation is dominated largely by human factors. That is, the behavior of humans involved plays the largest part in the safety of any given flight. Statistics will tell you that there will be an accident for every X number of hours flown. But if you are a careful pilot, checking the weather and making sure you never get into weather that is too bad for your plane. You get and maintain your training and keep that training up to date, ensure your plane is properly maintained, and you establish good safe flying habits, and you never go unless you are sure you can make it you could go much much longer than X hours and never even have an accident. If on the other hand, you take chances. If you get and continue bad habits, if you sometimes fly when you have been drinking, or you ignore the weather, or you overestimate your abilities you could find yourself sitting in a smashed airplane on the side of some mountain with your membership card in the being alive club violently revoked much sooner than X hours. These pilots took off thinking they could make it, but they certainly weren't sure they could make it. They were depending on luck to get them there safely. But luck is a fickly bitch, who never lets you know ahead of time that she isn't going to be there for you this time. They bet their lives they would make it, along with the lives of 69 other people. I'm not sure, but I'm willing to bet those soccer players would not have agreed to bet their lives on the pilot getting lucky.
@Monothefox
@Monothefox 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be the first time that a pilot disabled or erased the CVR to cover his own butt.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 2 жыл бұрын
Monothefox Are you referring to the "black box" that is brown?
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh, just horrible.... 71 people in one go😔 Don't think it needs any further input... always superlatively outlined by MACI. Under trained, unprofessional pilots working for failing airline operating on a shoestring. And yes, the pilots definitely pulled the circuit breaker they knew exactly what they were doing in the same way they continued to push their luck with the low fuel situation by avoiding putting out a Mayday call so as not to trigger an investigation and its associated awkward questions which may well have blown both the airline's cover - and theirs.....
@phantomf4747
@phantomf4747 2 жыл бұрын
The pilot won't do that again.
@alanrain8408
@alanrain8408 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this explanation of the accident. Truly tragic. A small point on your English: if something is illegal, it's illegal. That's enough. Saying it's "very, very illegal" is meaningless. Also, the drowning out of your voice near the start of this video is not a good sign of things to come.
@Bearrrrrrrrr
@Bearrrrrrrrr 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the AUDIO CHECK!!! Really loved Ground crews sound perspective
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta screen your videos dude.
@alice20001
@alice20001 2 жыл бұрын
When they were given instructions to stay in a holding pattern, couldn't they have issued a pan-pan or asked for another airport to land because of the low fuel?
@justanotherjezebeI
@justanotherjezebeI 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo... Love your videos but you may want to re-mix the sound on this one because the sound effects are drowning out the narrative in a couple spots.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 2 жыл бұрын
Your headline would be more accurate if changed to "Company culture killed 71 people".
@acoldite2035
@acoldite2035 2 жыл бұрын
Small question, 9:56 what's with the Indian Flag on the tail of the aircraft?
@TheMrsSaito
@TheMrsSaito 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t hear you when those engine sounds kick in…had to use CC to understand you!
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that my sincere apologies
@TheMrsSaito
@TheMrsSaito 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation It was still a great video, it was only at the beginning bit 👍
@lsrose
@lsrose 2 жыл бұрын
Such a sad story. Greed over safety is never good.
@drevil2675
@drevil2675 2 жыл бұрын
It was very sad story. These airlines shouldn’t be existed in the world .
@tomdavis3038
@tomdavis3038 2 жыл бұрын
The more price pressure passengers put on airlines the greater the likelihood
@AntCooke
@AntCooke 2 жыл бұрын
Problems with audio on this one. Regardless, that crew almost certainly pulled the breaker on the CVR. They were trying to cover their arses but shouldn’t have been put in that position by company in the first place.
@dodoubleg2356
@dodoubleg2356 2 жыл бұрын
Engine sounds were WAY too loud, couldn't hear your voice. Had to turn the CC on which I hate doin. No worries though, still a good vid as always. 😉✌️
@JNET_Reloaded
@JNET_Reloaded 2 жыл бұрын
endurance limit wouldnt of been much of a red flag at all, as they didnt know how much fuel was already onboard!
@vitaly6312
@vitaly6312 2 жыл бұрын
Endurance takes into account the fuel already onboard.
@TheeSSLandingThing
@TheeSSLandingThing 2 жыл бұрын
Recommend making a video about air canada flight 624
@mdashraf1245
@mdashraf1245 2 жыл бұрын
Please increase the voice level in your upcoming videos.
@wwvette
@wwvette 2 жыл бұрын
Is Anybody Having To Much Bass On The Audio? Or Is It My Stereo That I Can't Control The Mix Level, I Don't Have The Remote To Adjust The Bass/Treble Level?
@machenka
@machenka Жыл бұрын
Why did they want to refuel at that particular airport though? I feel that’s an important part that’s being missed in this video. Was the fuel much cheaper there or? Otherwise it makes no sense to burn more fuel on an extra takeoff instead of just having enough fuel to begin with!?
@hillcrestvideoprod1
@hillcrestvideoprod1 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great, unique video!
@blakhorizon915
@blakhorizon915 2 жыл бұрын
I can't put any blame on the guy getn his video game. The pilot had like 10,000 options to change the outcome...
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 2 жыл бұрын
Blak HoRizOn. Don't exaggerate with the numbers and of course the guy with the video game had nothing to with the crash.
@blakhorizon915
@blakhorizon915 2 жыл бұрын
@@redblade8160 I can use hyperbole to get the point across.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakhorizon915 Now you are being dishonest
@BlueAirways
@BlueAirways 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Video
@b.t.356
@b.t.356 2 жыл бұрын
I am disgusted and disturbed that this happened. Thank Goodness that LaMia is defunct now.
@lisablack2389
@lisablack2389 2 жыл бұрын
Your audio in the beginning of the video is messed up, the jet engine noise drowns out your voice’
@ulrichraymond8372
@ulrichraymond8372 2 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure should be given to passengers before any flight is boarded. I would pay a little more to an independent agency to check fuel issues.
@RDSAlphard
@RDSAlphard 2 жыл бұрын
I know driver being unwise & don't refuel until it almost run out, but I didn't expect pilot can be such unwise.
@timelwell7002
@timelwell7002 2 жыл бұрын
If I were a pilot working for an airline which prioritized saving money over safety, I would resign from that company the moment I discovered this. It may well be that some pilots had indeed resigned from this company for exactly this reason.
@ryanfrisby7389
@ryanfrisby7389 2 жыл бұрын
This story makes me mad!
@davide4731
@davide4731 2 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of the Superga Air Disaster, will you ever cover that?
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that video game was worth it. 😞
@AlwaysBolttheBird
@AlwaysBolttheBird 2 жыл бұрын
0:32 plane go BRRRRRRRRRRRR
@irocker350
@irocker350 2 жыл бұрын
The ONLY reason why a pilot would disable a CVR is if he planned on doing something illegal / dangerous .
@chrish5791
@chrish5791 Жыл бұрын
If this airline was this cash strapped that they were scrimping on fuel what must their maintenance procedures been like?
@smileyeagle1021
@smileyeagle1021 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that always confuses me in these stories of pilots intentionally pulling risky maneuvers... do these pilots not realize that they will be among the dead when things go wrong? I understand that they have the "it will never happen to me" or "that's only something that happens to other people" mentality, but in the grand scheme of things, how is it not worth it to spend just a little bit extra on fuel just to be safe? Another question that I've got, and this may now be something that is done, but why is fuel level not something considered when approving a flight for departure? If it's not something that is considered, it really should be. So many of these crashes that you've discussed could have been prevented just by having airport personnel verify adequate fuel before the tower clears them for take off.
@Robocopnik
@Robocopnik 2 жыл бұрын
"maximized profit over safety" That's how capitalism works, yeah.
@Knirin
@Knirin 2 жыл бұрын
Economics forgetting about ethics or morality is nothing new.
@hrdley911
@hrdley911 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, safety is so much better in socialist countries, like the USSR.
@Robocopnik
@Robocopnik 2 жыл бұрын
​@@hrdley911 Look at any industry honestly and you'll see the same thing - the sacrifice of anything and anyone for the sake of stock prices. It's undeniable.
@hrdley911
@hrdley911 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robocopnik I agree. Greed is inherent in humans, and I'm fully OK with some government oversight, and civil accountability. Otherwise, our cars would kill us and planes would fall from the skies. I just get a little tired of the evil capitalism mantra. Corruption and incompetence are hallmarks of socialist and communist countries, so I wish someone could point to a better existing alternative. Sorry. Rant over.
@Robocopnik
@Robocopnik 2 жыл бұрын
@@hrdley911 No, I understand why you're bullshitting, don't worry about that.
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo 2 жыл бұрын
0:36 I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
Oops!
@BoloH.
@BoloH. 2 жыл бұрын
If the company doesn't have enough money to run an airline route, it should not try to run an airline route.
@lightningstrikestwice6302
@lightningstrikestwice6302 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't catch it if it was mentioned but you didn't say whether the pilot and copilot died in the crash. If they did not they and the management of the company should be in prison!
@milakowalski4539
@milakowalski4539 2 жыл бұрын
I never believed this version of the accident.
@pahvi3
@pahvi3 2 жыл бұрын
This was such a thriller that I wish the ending wasn't described in the title. Otherwise it's a pretty good and descriptive title though.
@PJay-wy5fx
@PJay-wy5fx 2 жыл бұрын
If the plane had a FDR, would that not show the reason for the CVR to have stopped working?
@sumanthkris777
@sumanthkris777 2 жыл бұрын
No money or airlines or anyone can give back life .... only 1 He did .. sad !! RIP
@NXTangl
@NXTangl 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck is this not a mayday or pan pan call? Like, they should have given a pan pan to say "hey, we're not going to fall out of the sky just yet, but we're really low on fuel..."
@pobinr
@pobinr 2 жыл бұрын
Jet engines so loud i can't hear you at one point
@kdpak
@kdpak 2 жыл бұрын
Why do I see an Indian-looking tricolor flag below CP-2933 @ 10:10?
@tyrotrainer765
@tyrotrainer765 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. All it needed was a mayday call before they were put in the hold.
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