The Pilots That ACCIDENTALLY Landed Their Boeing 737 In A Field | Air Europa Flight 131

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@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
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@atzuras
@atzuras 2 жыл бұрын
-Hey guys your wings are trashed! - Birds - Your engine cowls are full of holes! - Nah the painting is weak - You have 3 lamp posts and several antennas stuck on the plane - They were already there when we got the plane.
@redshirt5126
@redshirt5126 2 жыл бұрын
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@thatfeeble-mindedboy
@thatfeeble-mindedboy 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the Bart Simpson defense. LOL … “Those approach lights tangled up in the landing gear? Those aren’t mine … I don’t know how those got there …this isn’t my plane … regular guy called in sick, and I was called in to cover the flight at the last minute. … they said they had already done the pre-flight… I don’t really work here … the autopilot kept taking over … I was just trying to save fuel, man … is that a crime?? Somebody put something in my coffee … I think some chinese hackers got into the autopilot’s software code … like terrorists, man … it’s not my fault …”
@petrairene
@petrairene 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatfeeble-mindedboy Those light poles attacked us, honest to god, we barely got away with our lives! LOL
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 2 жыл бұрын
“Do you think they’ll notice the damage to the plane?” “Just don’t say anything.”
@anhedonianepiphany5588
@anhedonianepiphany5588 2 жыл бұрын
“Don’t ask, don’t tell.” Isn’t that the mantra of aviation safety, or am I thinking of something else?
@c.erikwilkinson4218
@c.erikwilkinson4218 2 жыл бұрын
And stop calling me Shirley.
@John_W
@John_W 2 жыл бұрын
"it was like that when we got it"
@ayub_mohamed
@ayub_mohamed 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@UrikKane
@UrikKane 2 жыл бұрын
5:12 Them not telling the ATC reminded me of how I felt like a kid if broke something and didn't wanna tell parents 😄
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah except there's no one else they can blame for the damage to the plane.
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 2 жыл бұрын
Like denying they ate all the cookies when there's chocolate all over their face
@MA-kr6yv
@MA-kr6yv 2 жыл бұрын
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS that’s figuratively literally what happened 😭😭
@maxmackinlay618
@maxmackinlay618 Жыл бұрын
Blame the damage on hailstones
@gracelandone
@gracelandone 2 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in our ongoing training. If any passenger has a can of white spray paint, please visit the cockpit as you deplane.
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability! - Happy Gilmore.
@kenhansew7892
@kenhansew7892 2 жыл бұрын
Pilot “Hey, there’s the runway way up ahead!” Capt. “Just drive over to it. Save some fuel”
@commerce-usa
@commerce-usa 2 жыл бұрын
It'll just buff out, let's taxi to the gate 🤣. There is a reason this was funny... They lived, nobody was seriously injured and the captain wanted to ignore they landed so short of the runway. The 737 can be an awesome plane. 👍
@margarita8442
@margarita8442 2 жыл бұрын
planes , trains and automobiles !!!
@trekaddict
@trekaddict 2 жыл бұрын
In the 70s, a high-jacked Lufthansa 737 landed on and started from what was a strip of sand between two runways because those had been blocked by the locals to keep this mess from becoming their problem.
@usaturnuranus
@usaturnuranus 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt! Another amazing 737 story - per the Wikipedia article: "TACA Flight 110 was an international scheduled airline flight operated by TACA International, traveling from Belize City to New Orleans. On May 24, 1988, the flight encountered severe thunderstorm activity on its final approach to its destination. As a result, the brand new Boeing 737-300 suffered flameout in both engines while descending through a severe thunderstorm, but the pilots made a successful emergency landing on a grass levee adjacent to NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility, with no one aboard sustaining more than a few minor injuries, and with only minor hail damage to the intact aircraft. Following an on-site engine replacement, the jetliner took off from Saturn Boulevard, a road which had previously been an aircraft runway at Michoud. The aircraft was subsequently repaired and returned to service." Serious butt clenching was pretty much the extent of injuries.
@MultiJoe11111
@MultiJoe11111 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome without a runway only if there are no trees 😇
@kdawson020279
@kdawson020279 2 жыл бұрын
@@usaturnuranus More impressive is the TACA captain pulled it off with impaired depth perception if memory serves.
@ravismcromarty5600
@ravismcromarty5600 2 жыл бұрын
"I just want to tell you both good luck, we're all counting on you."
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 2 жыл бұрын
alright boys, let's take some pictures.
@ravismcromarty5600
@ravismcromarty5600 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddsmith8608 When Kramer hears about this the shit's going to hit the fan!
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravismcromarty5600 looks like I picked the wrong day to quit ______.
@sabbottart
@sabbottart 2 жыл бұрын
Captain: “Attention all passengers, if you’re going to tell on me, then I won’t let you off this plane”.
@8o86
@8o86 2 жыл бұрын
you win the internet sir
@JohnnieHougaardNielsen
@JohnnieHougaardNielsen 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the surprising thing is not so much that they pressed on with the landing after the first touchdown, but not doing the basic aviate task of being aware of altitude, and ignoring repeated warnings from the airplane about sink rate and "pull up". I'm no pilot, but keeping an eye on altitude and speed should absolutely be a given.
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 2 жыл бұрын
Quite. Like yourself, not being a pilot, when I even merely hear during the course of these videos the strident "Terrain! Pull UP! Terrain! Pull UP !" it gives me the heeby jeebies, never mind would that one to experience it in anger while actually flying a jet! It occurs to me that sometimes it may be that pilots can be TOO experienced when the significance of such warnings are lost by being so familiar with them... a sort of aviation "boy who cried wolf"....
@822PaPa
@822PaPa 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 l
@billcallahan9303
@billcallahan9303 2 жыл бұрын
Johnnie, you would've made a great pilot. I can tell by your comment you have a wealth of common sense. That's 95% of what makes a great & safe pilot!
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 2 жыл бұрын
The pilot’s union, Competency is the last thing on their mind. Job security is first, regardless of capability. The industry is a wreck. 100 years from now people will look at this and say we were in the Stone Age
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 2 жыл бұрын
These are basic flight maneuvers. As a pilot myself, I can see that these guys actually did not know how to fly an airplane manually. What a disgrace. If you want to commit suicide but you want someone else to assist you, go flying on an airline.
@pawelgrott1278
@pawelgrott1278 2 жыл бұрын
The plane was carrying Polish soldiers coming back from a peace keeping mission in Lebanon. It was chartered by UN. The accident was kept secret by the authorities here in Poland and elsewhere called 'a minor incident during landing phase'. Never got into any headlines. The approach was carried at around 3am, so it was completely dark outside. A minor remark to your visual of the story. Anyway, thanks for bringing it in.
@AnimeSunglasses
@AnimeSunglasses Жыл бұрын
Wow! ...good grief...
@alexmiller7721
@alexmiller7721 2 жыл бұрын
Captain: I'm getting fed up with this flying thing. First Officer: I know. Let's drive a bus instead!
@andresvillarreal9271
@andresvillarreal9271 2 жыл бұрын
This looks a lot like my landings. The difference is, that I play in a simulator on my computer, and have had no training whatsoever. I have not even read the manual of the program.
@jack002tuber
@jack002tuber 2 жыл бұрын
And you never mention it to the ATC in the sim either. 🤣😎😎
@delstanley1349
@delstanley1349 2 жыл бұрын
Pilots used two approaches to landing, blending the old with the novel: (1) SRA- The Skip-Rock-Approach (works well on water!) Kids just love bounce planes (just as much as houses)! (2) ILS- (if you run out of skips to the landing surface, and can't hopscotch it and frustration sets in then he employed ILS (I'll Land the Sonafabitch) anyway I can. "Hey captain YOU fly it," said the FO! As they say any flight you can walk away from....😁
@yowtfputthemaskbackon9202
@yowtfputthemaskbackon9202 2 жыл бұрын
a good pilot occasionally has to go around. a bad pilot *will* get it on the ground first try.
@Exodus26.13Pi
@Exodus26.13Pi 2 жыл бұрын
I was half listening then heard the pilot play off a plane crash basically. It's a slow burn but worth that one moment. Commentary ✔️
@11017545
@11017545 2 жыл бұрын
When you touch the ground and likely have broken something, it's reasonable to stay on ground - or check out China Southern CZ3456, they bounced hard on the first landing and did damages to the airframe (which led to ineffective control cable movement), they decided to go around but eventually crashed on their 2nd attempt.
@alanngli
@alanngli 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about it.
@JackieO_LAX
@JackieO_LAX 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa! I just looked up that crash and read the translated CVR! That was nuts! The plane broke apart into 3 pieces and caught on fire which killed 1/2 of the people onboard and completely destroyed the plane!
@cr10001
@cr10001 Жыл бұрын
Or PIA 8303 - came in far too fast, with the wheels up (probably because the captain selected 'gear down' above the maximum permissible speed so the aircraft refused), scraped both engines on the runway damaging the fuel pumps - at that stage, with hindsight, they would have been safer staying down, but they went around, engines stopped for lack of fuel and they crashed in a suburb of Karachi.
@Eric_Hutton.1980
@Eric_Hutton.1980 2 жыл бұрын
They broke the airplane, and airport equipment. Yeah. I think someone will notice that. I also suspect that these pilots were swiftly out of a job in the airline industry.
@DaveJOHAZ
@DaveJOHAZ 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly hope they both lost their jobs and licenses!
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 2 жыл бұрын
@Eric Hutton, they didn't break it, they were just testing its durability.
@patriciaramsey5294
@patriciaramsey5294 2 жыл бұрын
I would hope they got the asses kicked!
@brucevrooman6107
@brucevrooman6107 2 жыл бұрын
They were just hired by United without an interview, yesterday, with several other offers at the same time. And at 3x the salary. Hard to get pilots now you know................
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucevrooman6107 It’ll be fine. They’re bright enough guys. They won’t make the same mistakes twice.
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 2 жыл бұрын
I think they elected to stay on the ground because they assumed the damage they were taking rendered the aircraft unflyable.
@anhedonianepiphany5588
@anhedonianepiphany5588 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that’s a completely reasonable thought, though these weren’t particularly reasonable pilots.
@briant7265
@briant7265 2 жыл бұрын
Fair thought, but I think they just didn't have the first idea what they were doing.
@rolfen
@rolfen 2 жыл бұрын
That's one good decision.
@usaturnuranus
@usaturnuranus 2 жыл бұрын
Young man, your episodes have improved considerably since your earlier days. Much better these days!
@dd-nj8wu
@dd-nj8wu 2 жыл бұрын
This was the most humorous episode in a way, hope no one notices a few bumps, it's like a teenager taking a car for a first drive and crashing it then coming home and quietly parking hoping the parents don't notice in the morning
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 2 жыл бұрын
That will buff out... That's factory error... That thing's _supposed_ to be on fire.
@BengalsBillsFan2015
@BengalsBillsFan2015 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Always educating us on Crashes that we forget about and Crashes we didn’t know existed or wasn’t featured on Mayday Air Crash Investigation ❤
@John_W
@John_W 2 жыл бұрын
also on incidents that don't result in crashes. we learn so much from those without such bad consequences
@AlwaysBolttheBird
@AlwaysBolttheBird 2 жыл бұрын
“Hey whys the airport broken? “Nah man wasn’t me” Those pilots probably
@Volodimar
@Volodimar 2 жыл бұрын
"Dog chewed our checklists" 🤥
@mattwilliams3456
@mattwilliams3456 2 жыл бұрын
Well built aircraft and landscaping crew.
@Oferb553
@Oferb553 2 жыл бұрын
The captain "I think we hit a bird! " Accedent investigator: "well, this bird built her nest in a huge tree, I guess ".
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 2 жыл бұрын
We may have hit a bird... and it may have been an ostrich.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 2 жыл бұрын
Now we need one on the Cornfield Bomber and/or the 1989 Belgian MiG-23 crash. I've been to Kortrik, and know exactly where that MiG hit, both are spooky. Makes me wonder, as a side note, how easy/often unpiloted planes land, the Cornfield Bomber, everything lined up perfectly for that plane to land, the forces changed just enough for it to skid to a halt in a field and stay there
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 2 жыл бұрын
Many planes - especially small general aviation aircraft - are stable; let go of the stick and it’ll go level. In WWII, a Me 163 landed on a field. Almost no damage to the plane. The pilot, however, was dead … a tiny bullet hole in the rear of the head. So that sometimes happens …
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 жыл бұрын
B-24 Liberator, named "Lady be Good," April 1943. Crew couldn't find their airfield in North Africa in the middle of the night. They bailed out. The plane landed itself, the tail was ripped off in the crash landing but the hull, including cockpit and main wings were intact. The crew perished in the Sahara.
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 2 жыл бұрын
@@AudieHolland Yep, they overshot the coast on the return and followed the reverse bearing from the radio beacon. They "knew" they still were over the sea and decided ditching was worse than jumping as their fuel was close to running out. Unfortunately they were wrong and died. Tragic and sad. There are ways to find out which side of the beacon you are on (turn ~90° to the bearing for some minutes and observe the bearing change, also gives you a good idea of the distance). Unfortunately they did not do that.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 жыл бұрын
@@advorak8529 The reason why I did not say, 'if they had stayed in the plane they would have survived' is that noone would bet his life crashing a plane in the darkness.
@rilmar2137
@rilmar2137 2 жыл бұрын
Thatnk goodness the area they mowed through was relatively empty. Had it been an airport like EPPO or EPWA, they would have crashed into the city, resulting in many deaths
@ironlionzion1380
@ironlionzion1380 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Royal Air Maroc pilots who thought that nobody (including the passengers) would notice that they thumped down hard on the sea twice before landing, and excused the heavy damage to the airframe as "bird strike".
@cadillacdevile
@cadillacdevile 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, As the story went along, I just knew this was going to have something to do with intoxication, but this was just a pure lack of communication and situational awareness. Thank you!
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 2 жыл бұрын
EGO
@cadillacdevile
@cadillacdevile 2 жыл бұрын
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS exactly
@anhedonianepiphany5588
@anhedonianepiphany5588 2 жыл бұрын
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS So, another kind of intoxication.
@markevans2294
@markevans2294 2 жыл бұрын
By contrast TACA 110 demonstrates that it is possible to land a B737 "off field". Even without engines
@okankyoto
@okankyoto 2 жыл бұрын
And it was far less damaged too!
@Banom7a
@Banom7a 2 жыл бұрын
@@okankyoto and with an impaired vision, too lol
@Dave_McKansas
@Dave_McKansas 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with staying on the ground, especially with the TO warning. It's on the ground and nobody is hurt. Why try to take off with what might be a damaged plane? For me the measure is the safety of the passengers and they accomplished that. They didn't save any money l, tho.
@7ebr830
@7ebr830 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. 🤝
@R8andGT3Fan
@R8andGT3Fan 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking!
@Oferb553
@Oferb553 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. After such a large ground impact, it's safer to stay on ground, since you don't know how many airplane parts you ha shaded off.
@mattc.310
@mattc.310 2 жыл бұрын
Once they were on the ground it was best to stay on the ground with the topography being what it was. Getting back in the air may have caused even more problems. I'll bet some words were exchanged once the airport realized what happened. ATC probably thought that was a pretty short tasi for a 737.
@blackmusik109
@blackmusik109 2 жыл бұрын
FO: Field in sight Captain: Continue Also captain: WTH. I thought said you had the field in sight FO: I never specified which field, just a field
@robertshepherd8543
@robertshepherd8543 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your clear language (and analysis). Weather is always a concern. Even with all the advances -- there are limits to instruments, radar, etc.
@kcnairnair7299
@kcnairnair7299 2 жыл бұрын
Hope the captain saved his fuel. And hope that got him in the good books of the Europa. The damage to the plane was inconsequential. And if a few lives were lost, well, that too is not worth the fuel saved. It is good Europa doesn't operate in my country though we have some similar types here too.
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they all lived
@TheLastPhoen1x
@TheLastPhoen1x 2 жыл бұрын
Should've told ATC they broke the airstrip equipment, then blamed it on the windshear.
@alangarland8571
@alangarland8571 2 жыл бұрын
Windshear not really plausible in a situation where the airfield is fogbound.
@christopherchilders1049
@christopherchilders1049 2 жыл бұрын
Good informative one as usual! I’ve never flown in a plane but threw you and mentor and fell as I’ve been threw hundreds of crashes
@BullCheatFR
@BullCheatFR 2 жыл бұрын
"Nobody's gonna know... They're going to know! How would they know?"
@ederss7
@ederss7 2 жыл бұрын
Saved fuel but damaged the plane. Those pilots deserve an award.
@borisbadaxe9678
@borisbadaxe9678 2 жыл бұрын
The pilot was absolutely correct the first time, the weather was "Just enough to get the plane on the ground."
@XIIchiron78
@XIIchiron78 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think staying on the ground was the worst idea... No guarantee you're anywhere close to airworthy after a "landing" like that... The weirder decision is to just keep rolling all the way in while running over lights and antennas, potentially starting a fire, and risking running into a big ditch somewhere out there collapsing the gear.
@alejandromut
@alejandromut 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine flying on a flight numbered 911…
@dirtycoffeecupp1321
@dirtycoffeecupp1321 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel and appreciate your knowledge! Have a great day!
@hotsoup1001
@hotsoup1001 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the teenage me the first time my dad let me borrow his truck. Thankfully the truck fared much better than the plane in this video.
@John_W
@John_W 2 жыл бұрын
been there
@nowavenyone
@nowavenyone 2 жыл бұрын
Nice pronunciation of katowice... Some would slaughter it... Great work!
@JimDean002
@JimDean002 2 жыл бұрын
"been through a combine". I grew up around my uncles wheat farm so I can relate to that comment :-)
@hannamiros
@hannamiros 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this one, I love it and the vid is great, too. I'm from Poland and this story sounds like the typical russian/polish story 😂
@briant7265
@briant7265 2 жыл бұрын
Three pilots on the flight deck and nobody flying the plane. This wasn't just atrocious CRM. They failed to communicate, failed to plan, and failed to follow basic protocols. They must have known how badly they effed up too, to just pretend nothing happened and hope nobody would notice.
@XIIchiron78
@XIIchiron78 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Captain went straight in hoping that the weather wouldn't get worse quick enough to stop them, more than fuel concerns
@hairsiluet
@hairsiluet 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video 🙏🏻 🛫 I fly many times with Air Europa. 👋🏻 Greetings from Spain 🇪🇸.
@Aeshr
@Aeshr 2 жыл бұрын
i have a theory. they knew that the damage was bad. without knowing exactly HOW bad the damage to the aircraft is, they would rather stay grounded than preform a go around and potentially not being able to land safely again.
@aroopghosh1381
@aroopghosh1381 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder what happened to the crew . It's great no one got hurt .
@dawsonje
@dawsonje Жыл бұрын
Flight 911, the most unfortunate flight number ever assigned in the history of commercial aviation
@HweolRidda
@HweolRidda 2 жыл бұрын
Mini Air explains states quite clearly that they were not supposed to land on that runway with that visibility. The obvious solution was to not land ON the runway. Land somewhere else and taxi over. Innovation is a thing to be admired.
@buttersPbutters
@buttersPbutters 2 жыл бұрын
Not a good idea to attempt a go-around after landing a big jet on an unprepared surface. You could have damage to both engines, the leading edge devices, hydraulic leaks, fuel leaks, pitot tubes, who knows what else. If you try to get that back into the air, you're no longer an airline pilot, you're a test pilot. At that point, what's done is done. Don't make a bad situation worse.
@cr10001
@cr10001 Жыл бұрын
Classic example: PIA 8303. Wheels-up landing on the runway, damaged fuel pumps, went around, engines failed, crashed.
@robertdowns9534
@robertdowns9534 2 жыл бұрын
My way of thinking would be if we hit something on landing then to take the plane back up might be disastrous upon second touchdown due to possible damage to the landing gear or engines.
@cr10001
@cr10001 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Check out e.g. PIA 8303, damaged the engines (wheels-up landing), went around and crashed when they failed. I think as a general rule it's always safer to go around *unless* you've already hit the ground and potentially damaged something significant.
@bushgreen260
@bushgreen260 2 жыл бұрын
*I think they kept it on the ground because they knew the plane was damaged, so they didn't want to go airborne again because then plane may crash because of the damage done to it.*
@markwales3630
@markwales3630 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if, in the past, they had failed to follow procedures and nothing bad had happened. If so, could it be that they had gotten into the habit of not following procedures, leading to this accident?
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they stay on the ground? Because, with pilots like these, the air isn't safe.
@jamesstuart3346
@jamesstuart3346 2 жыл бұрын
Given the degree of messed-uppedness of the approach, this could have had a brutal ending. So cut the crew a bit of slack
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 2 жыл бұрын
_cut the crew a bit of slack_ What? The only reason this was not a fireball and a mass grave was sheer luck, nothing else. The reason it came to that situation at all was the actions of the crew - nobody and nothing else! Stupid deductions from not flying a standard approach in miserably bad weather to not going around to not watching their instruments to completely ignoring automated warnings. The crew should be bladder they were not charged with hundred-plus cases of attempted murder.
@alen.p95
@alen.p95 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting channel, I would like, if possible, to make a video about the 1976 Zagreb midair collision between dc9 and trident aircraft
@mikemoreno4469
@mikemoreno4469 2 жыл бұрын
I think, having already touched down twice and with the take-off-config warning going off, they decided it was safer to keep it on the ground, especially as they could see they had the full length of the runway in front of them.
@johannesbols57
@johannesbols57 2 жыл бұрын
ATC: hi, guys, good landing? Pilots: sure, ya... see ya. Investigators: WTF happened? Pilots: We pledged to land and our plane stepped on a bee.
@thessalonician
@thessalonician 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect that the pilots understood obviously that they've touchdown on the field and hence, this would induce some damages to the plane. Perpahs they thought to keep it on the ground due to the damages that the plane has already suffered. Trying to hide though this CRASH incident from the ATC is not only unprofessional but also INSANE!
@tom201090
@tom201090 2 жыл бұрын
Confusing I think. I mean I am fairly sure some warning lights may have come on in the tower about some lights being out of action. And anyone seeing the plane is surely going to think 'maybe I should let someone know...?
@thessalonician
@thessalonician 2 жыл бұрын
@@tom201090 have you seen the damages on this plane? Obviously these were not made from the clouds. Thus, it's obivious that even if no one has seen the lights or the plane rolling out on the ground, this fact by itself would immediately raise questions.
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 2 жыл бұрын
Denial is the first stage of grief.
@tom201090
@tom201090 2 жыл бұрын
@@thessalonician I was meaning 'confusing that the pilots thought they could get away with it and no one would notice!' I haven't personally seen the plane post accident however so I could be wrong.
@ronnieince4568
@ronnieince4568 Жыл бұрын
Any landing you can walk away from.is perfect in my view .!!!
@robertdickson2319
@robertdickson2319 2 жыл бұрын
Th ultimate "any landing u walk away from..." Works for me any time. Imagine pilot's mind, sumpn like, "fuck go round, we ona ground Now..."
@JoshuaNicoll
@JoshuaNicoll 2 жыл бұрын
I thought one crew handing over to the other crew when landing, switching from mostly instrument to mostly visual flying was done since having the same pilot do that can cause confusion and errors, it's actually safer for the other pilot to take over once the runway is in sight.
@briant7265
@briant7265 2 жыл бұрын
I think the FO just knew he was going to crash it and hoped maybe the Captain would pull off a miracle.
@Nobilangelo
@Nobilangelo 2 жыл бұрын
The captain's day-job was mowing grass. He forgot that he wasn't on a lawnmower.
@robby206
@robby206 2 жыл бұрын
This story is so surreal and yet funny at the same time. One can actually feel that you find it quite funny, too, by the way you are commenting the events 😁
@ahronrichards9611
@ahronrichards9611 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's said that people do crazy things and this is definitely one of them. Glad that everyone walked away, but these pilots playing with people's lives man.
@BillyAlabama
@BillyAlabama 2 жыл бұрын
Another good episode!
@jamesgraham6122
@jamesgraham6122 2 жыл бұрын
Not what one would consider a stabilized approach. Hopefully, these guys are now flipping burgers, (though I'd be reluctant to eat one), FYI. A 'sink-rate' alert doesn't mean that the aircraft is too low, simply that the rate of descent is too high. As for the minimum weather conditions allowed for the approach, in Europe, the 'minima' has to be met prior to the approach being commenced. However, once the approach has been commenced and the aircraft has passed the 'outer marker' inbound, even if the tower informs us that the weather has deteriorated below minima, the crew are entitled to continue the approach to their published minima and if possible, land or if the runway environment has not become visible, then to execute a missed approach. I hope this helps.. well done and many thanks for posting.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 Жыл бұрын
This speaks well for the durability of the 737.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 жыл бұрын
Just from watching this series and the tv series "Mayday/Aircrash Investigation" even I know that trying to catch the glideslope from above never ends well. I would not just have this flight crew fired but banned from ever flying an airliner again. It's like overconfident/incompetent people thinking, "I may risk it," before jumping into the void. But if you're responsible for the lives of dozens or hundreds of people, you should never fly again.
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 I knew you were going to say "go around" but I really wanted you to say "stomp on the left peddle and turn the yoke to the right", because forward slips are fun.
@ryanfrisby7389
@ryanfrisby7389 2 жыл бұрын
That’s different lol! Great video!
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, there was a story much more like the title to your video implies... It happened in the city of Kirov (former Vyatka, a far-northern Soviet mining town)... A plane attempting a non precision approach in thick fog took a neon sign on the edge of a highway for the extended-centerline lights of the runway, resulting in a crash into a muddy snow covered marshland... It seems, that on the flat tundra, being the only plane of the day, he did not expect the airfield to be cleared of recently fallen wet snow (it was summer, so the snow-trucks were unmanned)
@jkryanspark
@jkryanspark 2 жыл бұрын
Most airports don't have what amounts to a 'pre-runway.' If this were, say, LaGuardia, the plane would have been in the bay. In a perfect world, runways would have miles of flat solid land at both ends of their runways to allow for mistakes.
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 2 жыл бұрын
Love love love your videos and it would unfortunately appear that just because aviation gets incrementally safer, doesn't make it perfectly safe. Methinks you will have material well into the future.....
@jtveg
@jtveg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻
@emilysmith6897
@emilysmith6897 Жыл бұрын
Taking off may have been worse. If they suffered critical damage like damage to the wings making them aerodynamically unsuitable for flight (or many other possibilities) going around after they already landed may have been worse.
@dougw860
@dougw860 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, but there's more to this ridiculous story. I skimmed the final SCAAI report which you obviously used as source material, but then I read air Europa's formal response. It's an interesting read. Obviously a corporate CYA document, but they defended some of the crew's actions. A few items I didn't hear in your video (maybe I just missed them from being stunned by this air crews actions!): the autopilot was fully engaged until impact and air Europa claims that the pilot's actions to arrest the excessive sink rate was thwarted by the autopilot. Not sure how the 737 AP works, but mine resists my inputs with such authority that I know for certain it's in control. Having two pilots in the cockpit rated as "commanders" caused bilateral difference (each Captain thought the other was in charge) and, finally, my favorite item, the crew didn't purposely conceal damage to the airport and aircraft by leaving the airport without reporting it to anyone as they thought the damage was obvious and didn't need reporting. None of the pilots were fired. They were put through a training program. I assume at least one of them is still flying today.
@dougw860
@dougw860 2 жыл бұрын
edit deference, not difference.
@Mediamarked
@Mediamarked Жыл бұрын
In the moment, the pilots freezing is just a human response. As an example, I drove my moped off the side of a steep hill once. Drove along at night, nothing to note. Deer, 30m-10ft in front of me. Braking, no way I'd stopped in front of it- steered off to the side. Went off the road, onto the grass, when I just froze up. Had the entire scenario played in my head many times, " just swerve", "jump off when shit goes wrong". Freezing up, I just went down that hill. Didn't do my moped any good, didn't break anything either. Anyway. Anyone wants to be the moviestar. The badass. Untill you hit that moment, and then, the scene writers just gone off on lunchbreak, and you are left with your instinct. Those pilots froze up, as they saw great harm coming, and rode out their ride. Got lucky, nothing more, nothing less. It's just how humans react to situations like that, there are very few people who can learn to act in a defined manner to these situations- and the lessons learned can still be the wrong ones, depending on the case. Glad their actions turned out well.
@ozonejunky2187
@ozonejunky2187 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, as usual. Audio still too low tho. Needs turning up on all your videos. You're very quiet.
@derp8575
@derp8575 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so good that I turned on bell notifications. Only the best of the best get the bell notifications.
@southpakrules
@southpakrules 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were afraid that they sustained catastrophic damage in the fuselage or engines when they touched down and decided not to go around. That's kinda sound.
@hassanmuhammad3258
@hassanmuhammad3258 2 жыл бұрын
Flight 911......😕 that alone told me EVERYTHING was going to go bad
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 2 жыл бұрын
I'm tryin to get my head around that crew and actions. I just....I can't. Did Air Europa not teach CRM at all or was it a langauge/culture issue with the to pilots not being effective at all?
@John_W
@John_W 2 жыл бұрын
trying to imagine being a passenger on that flight... the airline must have gotten thousands in drycleaning claims
@gregorylenton8200
@gregorylenton8200 2 жыл бұрын
Just UNBELIEVABLE
@BlueAirways
@BlueAirways 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Video
@geoffedmonds6507
@geoffedmonds6507 2 жыл бұрын
Um my guess in keeping it on the ground was they had no idea how to fly in the first place so they where just happy to be on airport grounds???
@mattym8
@mattym8 Жыл бұрын
"5.6 dots" high isn't really a thing. It's referred to as "full deflection" as in the instrument is showing the plane so high that the needle is off the screen. The glideslope is pegged. But it's interesting to me that "5.6 dots" appeared in the report. I wonder why they noted it that way. Nice job on the video.
@whiplash8277
@whiplash8277 2 жыл бұрын
As a non-pilot, if the plane is firmly on the ground and has suffered damage from the messed up landing, the LAST thing I want is to be in that plane and have it go airborne. At least they were on the ground in one piece, and a go around may not have had the same result. The wing's leading edge was damaged, so no guarantee it would fly properly.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine that. The uneducated... the entitled... telling everybody else what to do.
@cr10001
@cr10001 Жыл бұрын
Also, no guarantee vital control surfaces or engine parts hadn't been damaged. Going around with e.g. a flap torn off would not be a good thing.
@imnotagamer5327
@imnotagamer5327 2 жыл бұрын
Maby the reason why the capten on board did not try to recover is because of worries of fuel consumption why else Btw
@trnguy6137
@trnguy6137 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 2 жыл бұрын
WTF are vids?
@adeleadeje18cheesecake
@adeleadeje18cheesecake 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly, love all your content and appreciate it. Can I ask why the audio is so low compared to other videos? I always have to increase the volume. Is it a stylistic choice? Does anyone else have the same problem?
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is very quiet.
@j700jam4
@j700jam4 2 жыл бұрын
You said they applied full power and touched down 3 times. I think they were better finally deciding to stay on the ground, who knows what could have happened had it become fully airborne with unknown structural damage. The plane annunciator warned they were not in the take off config and the stick shaker activated. Had the crew even set flaps for landing? You asked why we thought they elected not to go around? I think it was because they couldn’t and staying on the ground was out of pure luck and was actually the best option all round. So how and to who did the pilots finally fess up to?
@RossNixon
@RossNixon 2 жыл бұрын
It is a pity that the glide slope can by flown through without detecting it. Some tech advancement needed here.
@blackduckfarmcanada
@blackduckfarmcanada 2 жыл бұрын
Takeoff config alarm from the spoiler deployment. Easy to stow and go around
@budwhite9591
@budwhite9591 2 жыл бұрын
This is like Hot Shots where the fighter wing lands on the carrier before the mission except Washout lands in the Vegas Strip
@GemmaLB
@GemmaLB 2 жыл бұрын
I bet those pilots are now working for Aerosucre.
@cheaterman49
@cheaterman49 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're now part of the ground crew: with their fuel economy mindset, the company figured the best job to give them would be to refuel airplanes...
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