How Paul DePodesta Ruined the Browns

[@evanschris103]

Finally! Holding DePo and the Browns accountable; Giving the spotlight where it needs to be shined

[@tyrelljackson872]

This is why you’ve become my new favorite Browns channel and one of my favorite YT channel overall. You are motivating me to re start my podcast itself

[@Berlography]

Yes, he's without a doubt the best Browns content creator out there 👏🏼

[@joericottone]

Appreciate that my dude!!

[@CupOfJoes]

The worst thing about being a Browns fan right now is … we just don’t even know who’s making decisions. Berry? Depo? Jimmy?

[@MinisterManDan]

Anytime you don't know who is making the decision, you actually do know: it's the owner. Strong orgs with clear chains of command have people taking credit. Orgs where the owner makes all the key decisions have a smoke screen and tons of people with different job titles to mask the owner's involvement to avoid blame. This is Jimmy's show. It has been since he bought it. He's deeply stupid.

[@someperson8151]

Moneyball was about saving a cheap ass organization money and hoping that the product they put out could win. The NFL has a salary cap and puts every team on an equal, financial footing. DePodesta isn't a good fit in the NFL.

[@OnHisDime]

your color grading is top tier.

[@Berlography]

Do all teams have "chief strategy officers"? Yes, dump Paul and see what we can do..

[@KingOfAllBlunders]

One minute in and automatic thumbs up just for the headline. I already agree

[@colinmckinley5405]

THIS MUST BE THE PLACE I’ve never met another human that knows this song

[@isaacrubin9291]

You know who finds value late in the draft? Brad Holmes.

[@roblegend6715]

You hit the nail on the head, sir. Good stuff. Good pick on the Talking Heads song!

[@tyrelljackson872]

About damn time someone has held this Bozo accountable. I’ve been screaming from the mountain top for YEARS. NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNTIL HES OUT OF HERE. He’s Jimmys right hand man. The “devil” in his ear

[@mariglizzy5781]

you’re one of my favorite channels rt now for the browns and i would like to see you and Quincy Carrier maybe collab somehow lol get it done!!

[@ricks8102]

2 words Jalen Milroe

[@1Poseidon3]

Wait, does DePodesta have this much power? Quincy Carrier Always says he is only in charge of hiring and firing front office people and nothing else. I didn't know he had this much power.

[@joericottone]

Well he fired Alex Van Pelt, or at least lobbied to other people to do so which undermines Kevin Stefanski - a coach historically sets his staff up himself, so it’s a massive overreach. A lot of what I’m saying is me inferring, but that bit is 100% true

[@billosters8162]

Just last year this team was viewed as a Super Bowl contender. But the Watson gamble blew up and Chubb was injured. In reality the Browns made one bug mistake in Watson, a gamble that Atlanta , Miami, and others were willing to take. Now fans want to fire everyone, blow up the team, and start yet again. Yes the team has holes, but it's also loaded with talented players. Retool, certainly. Clean house, hell no!

[@joericottone]

Definitely don’t clean house

[@codydorco6751]

Preach brother

[@MLB1212]

I wish it was as simple as Joey R maintains. Yet, Browns and 13 other teams pursued DW. 14 of the 32 nfl teams made same mistaken analysis

[@James-e3m4x]

Rumor is Berry is the main one that started pushing for Watson that makes sense he’s obsessed with black QBs .

[@aaronbjork3445]

the one obvious thing NO one will talk about

[@MLB1212]

🥱

[@MinisterManDan]

This feels like cope because deep down you know the actual problem is the owner, but he's not going anywhere.

[@joericottone]

I wouldn’t call that a cope, its definitely true though - if you can’t knock off the king you go after the ones who have his ear

[@mkl5448]

You're really only partially right, it all comes from the owner. The owner is 100% to blame for everything, he makes the decisions, he signs the checks, he has the responsibility. And this owner stinks and is clueless on how to run a football team.

[@MS-1]

The Ivey Cult has to go (Depotestical, Dingleberry, and Preventski).

[@markbowman5515]

Why do we have moneyball in the AFC north? Never understood depo's role

[@neilschaefer6597]

Wait, the Browns weren't "ruined" prior to Paul DePodesta being hired??

[@KregActual]

Football is not 1s and 0s. It's Xs and Os. Look at Dallas and Cleveland and compare them to Detroit. Ownership who think they know football and are overbearing vs a football guy like Dan Campbell. Who knows the game. Kevin knows the game, let him do the thing.

it was the Watson gamble that put the Browns into this position. If anyone person in particular...... Watson

[@rickzwolinski]

You can analyse all you want. Depodesta has been here 7 years? Haslam 12 years as owner , I wonder where the problem lies.

[@georgeyoung7041]

How do you ruin something that has been a disaster since 1999? Speaking as a season ticket holder. They haven’t been good since the return. A decent year here and there, nothing else.

[@TheCountofToulouse]

The Browns are a cursed team. When Cleveland got a new team, the LAST thing they should have named it was the "Browns". I know to someone in Cleveland thinks that the most absurd thing they've ever heard but it's true. The Browns were named after Paul Brown...who was fired. He left, went to Cincinnati and created the Bengals, using the same colors. The only time anyone EVER saw Paul Brown cry was when his team BEAT the Browns. He was personally offended that they kept the name. That team went on to struggle and eventually left, changing the name and moving to Baltimore where that team is GOOD, having won a few titles. The city of Cleveland has NO claim to that name as the Brown family STILL owns the Bengals. I know, next you'll say it's a "tribute" or something stupid like that but it's pale in loo of how TERRIBLE this team has CONSISTENTLY been. The team needs a complete BRAND change. They should have named them anything...frankly, I think the Cleveland FIRE sounds better or the Cleveland ROCKERS...anything but the Browns.

[@bryan-still-a-poker-player]

Gtfoh, I grew up on the 1980's browns. A cleveland team not named the browns? Get outta here. The city and the people in it, even surrounding cities, people from rival cities all fought so that we could keep the name, colors and records here. Where they belong. All the real browns fans feel the same. I feel sorry for other fans that don't have the same type of connection to their team. We are generations old, it's in our blood, born and raised and that's how we like it. Do not tell us what our team should be.

[@TheCountofToulouse]

@@bryan-still-a-poker-player I'm just telling you the truth, as I stated, I didn't expect you to accept it, so, you will continue to suffer.

[@bennibrisco84]

Facts!!!💯💯💯💯

[@calebcohen5055]

This whole video is conjecture

[@joericottone]

Life is conjecture

[@Itsalwayscloudyincleveland]

100%. All conjecture. And misrepresenting certain aspects of DePo’s tenure and decisions. Disappointing to see such wild conjecture calling for someone’s job. My man Joey just became another Cleveland sports fanatic hovering over the big red button every single week.

[@joericottone]

Tell me where the conjecture is - other than the areas where I openly admit that I have nothing to back up what I am saying - he fired AVP, he continually talks about process, continually talks about “finding value where it isn’t apparent to others” - I’m sharing my opinions in this, and at least my outlandish takes are interesting, you won’t find someone else who made the Hatteberg/Watson comparison, if I was like the others id be saying the same things as them

[@Itsalwayscloudyincleveland]

@ this is just the first five minutes bud - “DePodesta has made the bulk of the macro decisions in Cleveland.” No backing for this. - “DePodesta fired AVP.” Breer made it clear that DePo AND ownership were unhappy with Deshauns progress. We have no idea how the decision took form. - “2023 wasnt about the analytics or Depodesta’s 5 year plan.” I think building a roster deep enough to carry an QB to a playoff run despite a plethora of key injuries is part of the plan. - “2023 was about the coaching.” And who was it that banged the table for the Browns to hire Stefanski back in 2019? - “DePodesta hired Dorsey.” Havent seen any reliable reporting to this. - “Depodesta’s philosophy running a football organization is built off a baseball organization.” Brother, this is just “analytics bad” jargon. Assuming one of the most influential minds in modern sports doesnt have the ability to understand the difference in football and baseball organizations is lunacy. Actually read Moneyball the book. See the thought processes that go into these things. - “DePodesta fails to grasp NFL contracts and player life cycle.” How? How has he shown he has failed to grasp that? Just insinuating on your part from nothing. - “Development cannot be prioritized when constructing a roster.” Im sorry, WHAT? Lol thats asinine my guy. Am I to believe that the Chiefs are drafting every single player expecting them to contribute year 1? - “MLB is more predictable.” Baseless conjecture. Because everyone predicted the youngest team in the league Cleveland Guardians to make the playoffs the last two years. Because the Angels won all those penants with Trout and Ohtani right? - “Process does not work when drafting NFL players”. Conjecture. - Pinning Schwartz solely on DePodesta. Complete conjecture. Like teams dont take a flyer on speedster receivers all the time.

[@anibalrodriguez2626]

​@@Itsalwayscloudyincleveland Ok man, you say he's misrepresenting aspects of Depodesta's tenure so could you at least explain what Depodesta does to counter claim that what Joey says? Because I legitimately don't know what he does for the team to be completely honest

[@Itsalwayscloudyincleveland]

Oof. This is a swing and a miss brother. Saying DePo “ruined” the Browns? We dont even have a clear understanding of what his influence is lol We do know it wasnt influential enough when it came out he was pushing for Browns to hire McDermott instead of Hue. We do know he wasnt influential enough to stop Dorsey from hiring Kitchens, DePo actually wanted Stefanski that first go round. Then we finally get to hire Stefanski and it works out. This has all been widely reported. Nah brother, this aint it. Also I recommend actually reading the book Moneyball and not just watching the film where liberties were taken due to it being a movie and all. Great film, but not an accurate representation of who DePo is and his thought process

[@joericottone]

His influence is significant, the head coaching decisions went to a vote so no, he could not completely get his way - however, he absolutely was a key figure in firing Dorsey and AVP and the latter has absolutely negatively impacted the team - additionally, he 1000% believes (and enjoys) finding underrated talent that hasn’t been fully recognized - that’s my argument here - trying to build a winner through identifying the “hidden gems” is not conducive to success - furthermore, the belief that being a consistent 9-7 or 10-6 isn’t the answer is ridiculous - that mind is what is building the frame work for this teams approach and that is why they’re inconsistent - tell me what part is wrong in what I just said

[@Itsalwayscloudyincleveland]

@ so lemme get this straight. You think that losing Alex Van Pelt, the guy who (checks notes) is “killing it” with the Patriots is what derailed this team? Replaced with the guy who (checks notes) you yourself said was going to be a great hire and mesh with Stefanski. And EVERY team believes in finding underrated players. If they didnt then nobody would have draft picks past round 3 lol thats not a negative point bud. That is how good teams are built. Find cheap, young value to fill out your roster. Sometimes the most obvious answer is the right one. The acquisition of Deshaun Watson is what set us back. As of now we dont have a clear answer of who is responsible for that, but according to Jay Glazer and PFN the owner with a history of making QB decisions with this organization was the responsible party. If you wanna fire DePo cuz u think he was the reason we got Deshaun, fine. I understand that opinion. But this weird bashing of simple team building philosophy isnt the slam dunk takedown of him you think it is lol

[@neilschaefer6597]

@@joericottone Name some non 1st or 2nd round picks who Dorsey hit on with the browns.

[@gordonwilson4072]

All 3 need to go. Give it to vrable maybe beinemy as OC. I really want Haslem to give Peyton Manning old Tennessee alum part ownership and hand him the keys to franchise.

[@TheWillikerz]

I really think you should go back to looking at DePodesta's real job. Look into everything he's sais regarding his job. DePodesta's merely a scapegoat.

[@chad_k1029]

How about you just get people in the front office that know how to recognize a football player. Stop with the finger pointing. Make sure you have the best scout/talent evaluators in the business. Line up and play

[@drewferd2720]

Force Jimmy money bags to sell the team

[@antoniocurlee1181]

Always talking around Kevin Stafanski any other team in the nfl would have fire there head coach. Prime Example Bill Belichick. Only in Cleveland fans dance around the head Coach.

Depo helped the Browns go 0-16. That is all.

[@Diglett-fc4bl]

I was unaware that DePo controlled injuries? Feel like this whole video is a reach.

[@Diglett-fc4bl]

AVP shitting the bed in NE, Flacco shitting the bed in Indy, cmon yall be so for real

[@UncleGabe216]

Haslam mad these decisions, it's totally on him

[@robertjones144]

Get him out

[@adamgraybill55]

Look I agree that DePodesta sucks and should be shitcanned, but you can’t say he ruined them, they already sucked.

[@joericottone]

Sure, but after clawing out of the dumpster he made multiple moves that sent them back (firing avp)

[@joericottone]

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