How Penguin's Hidden Easter Egg Sets Up Batman 2! - Scarecrow Explained

[@ramakblog]

With Scarecrow, Penguin, Riddler, Sophia, Joker, Clayface, the Court of Owls, and Robin, it'd be a 5-hour movie.

[@funkyrumble0455]

Fine by me lmao

[@Dr.Megladon]

It needs to be a showdown between Batman and Condiment king.

[@rokimduaempat]

i see that as an absolute win

[@dburton1999]

I think it is part 2 and 3

[@e3m88]

and we're still missing mr. freeze, poison ivy, catwoman vs harley, robin's origin, alfred's death, joker's escape, venom's knightfall, no man's land, and the long halloween.

[@mike4999]

The Joker is played out , lets give him a rest... New villians make better stories

[@itzknighto5482]

They should just make a series set in Arkham, where Scarecrow, Professor Pyg, Zsasz, Hush, are all set up too he main villains or side villains, while Joker is just in the background pulling strings or just genuinely as a side character.

[@devanman7920]

Agreed

[@Earboo]

Why is the next main villain even a question it’s so clearly going to be penguin

[@devanman7920]

@Earboo penguin only has like 5 scenes (Colin Farrell said this) so he's only a side character for the next film

[@Earboo]

@ sure

[@nrgao]

James Spader as scarecrow would actually be insane. The monologue on fear would be award winning.

[@ryans7721]

I think Julian Rush is going to be a grounded version of Jarvis Tetch "The Mad Hatter". The therapy with the red light, hypnotizing people, bliss, idk feels more like they are leading to him.

[@OptimusTOM]

He has no star power. He won't be a villain in a big movie.

[@Man.Of.Obscurity]

I like that theory. Mad Hatter doesn’t have to be a big villain… he can just exist in this world as a minor side villain…

[@KyleWillLivingston]

I thought about that too :).

[@ryans7721]

@OptimusTOM the way they showed Jarvis Tetch in "Gotham" was a start I think they could bring him into this batman universe. Will he be the big bad? Definitely not, but as a secondary villain, maybe

[@ryans7721]

@@Man.Of.Obscurity Exactly. He could just be a minor villian that may appear or exist.

[@MomFearsMyMusic]

I want my Matt Reeves Mr Freeze story. He's the most epic villain for a grounded Batman series.

[@londonwilliams2754]

My biggest worry about a Matt Reeves Mr. Freeze story is how he would be able to do it in an ultra grounded Gotham. As far as we can tell, there aren’t super powers or crazy technology. So how could Reeves suspend our disbelief enough to create Mr. Freeze?

[@ghostme1635]

​@@londonwilliams2754yeah I just can't see it being done right in this grounded version... some people are out here saying manbat ...freeze...and Killer croc are the choices they want. DO THEY NOT REALIZE THAT THEY WILL NOT FIT HERE.. its like they didn't even watch the Batman. Lol

[@mr.j410]

So batman Tas mr freeze then?

[@Man.Of.Obscurity]

@@ghostme1635 In fairness… the noir style of The Batman, mixed with some fantastical elements would be a great way to utilize Manbat and Clayface as villains… A “horror-noir” type movie.

[@anthonykarnes6804]

No

[@KamPrada]

With *The Penguin* setting up Oswald’s rise to power and the shocking reveal of Scarecrow lurking in the shadows, *The Batman 2* has the perfect setup to explore a Gotham that’s more unhinged than ever. Penguin might be tightening his grip on the city, but Scarecrow’s introduction could flip the script, bringing chaos that even Oswald can’t control. I’d love to see Batman trying to navigate this mess-juggling the fallout of Penguin’s takeover while also dealing with Scarecrow’s fear toxin spreading paranoia and turning the city against itself. It’d be great to see Bruce pushed to his limits, questioning if he can really fight fear itself, especially with Gotham spiraling into madness. The stakes should feel bigger, with Bruce not just fighting villains but also the growing distrust of the people he’s trying to protect. Throw in some eerie visuals of a fear-ridden Gotham and the court of owls, and you’ve got the perfect setup for an intense sequel

[@RobStevens64]

See, now you have me wondering if the memories Sophia or Oz's mom experienced with Rush were REAL memories or implanted by Rush.

[@maineymonroe8225]

Seeing as how she asked about her mom’s death - which is what got her sent to Arkham in the first place, before meeting Rush. I doubt it. Her mom’s death was real.

[@RobStevens64]

I'm not saying everything we saw was faked, but I think it stands that it's possible those memories could have been manipulated to some degree.

[@Barefootjiggy]

Nah I think you taking that too deep

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

This is what I want. With Gotham being under martial law, the Penguin's rise to criminal power, the class disparity and the residual effects of the flood waters, the citizens of Gotham's fear would be naturally high, and Scarecrow is the perfect antagonist for the sequel. If Julian Rush is this universes equivalent to Johnathan Crane or if he just changed his name for some reason, all of this set up with bliss being the precursor to the fear toxin could pay off. The only problem is that Matt Reaves has recently said that the synopsis for The Batman II will have "Bruce not wanting to be Batman anymore" and that it's still going to be during winter. Maybe it'll be The Batman: Frozen In Fear.

[@charmiking4767]

Actually there could be a plot twist that Julian Rush is a former prisoner of Arkham so he changed his name to hide it

[@samuelcook2641]

I want a Court of Owls adaptation so bad.

[@369frequencyandvibration]

Animated

[@samuelcook2641]

@369frequencyandvibration Batman vs. Robin!

[@devanman7920]

I bet you they will be the main overarching villain of the trilogy and will be the main villains for the 3rd film

[@samuelcook2641]

@@devanman7920 Really hope so. I think they're such an interesting concept and they can give us a break from the normal Batman villains.

[@USMCKong0311]

Both the Gotham Knights show & game scratched that itch for me.

[@MisterW99]

This is very similar to how I see Part II. Except I’d replace Scarecrow with Hugo Strange. Scarecrow can be mentored by Strange though, growing to become Scarecrow in Part III, carrying Hugo Stranges legacy which would tie in with the Arkham horror idea.

[@gr8handsftl]

I think that they should utilize Scarecrow in the next movie and we find in the 3rd movie that Scarecrow was a tool of Hugo Strange and the Court Of Owls, Hugo being a member of them.

[@anthonykarnes6804]

No

[@MisterW99]

@@anthonykarnes6804 you don’t have the ability to come up with anything better

[@scionoforion]

I was getting the feeling Rush was going to wind up being Hugo Strange

[@MrAjCalderon]

The drops packaging always looked like the Scarecrow was involved as well

[@nickohhh]

oh yeah!

[@jonnyquezt1651]

I’M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PANTS!

[@robrussell7828]

pads* but yeah

[@imranfazal6495]

Aura loss lowkey but alright

[@WedMakeMillions1]

So close…

[@inthecloudz1272]

Wtf are hockey pants lmao.

[@gametime2227]

Swing and a miss!

[@rjk537]

Scare crow gonna scare the crow

[@Colex_ykf]

Dude I seen that on his desk, thought about the Arkham games and then completely forgot about that shit . Holy hell that’s insane

[@AwesomeStuff1983]

The Julian Rush character was originally supposed to be Jonathan Crane right. The mask and glove could be a misdirection or something confiscated by Rush. Several things could have changed after Reeves met with Gunn to make sure they weren’t going to step on each other.

[@RobStevens64]

Well, they changed Oz's name, too. Not as much, but a bit.

[@dburton1999]

I believe it’s a misdirect too

[@mr.j410]

Screw james gunn

[@zeonmx]

Good. Julian Rush doesn't fit the character at all. Him being a simp to Sophia also ruins the character build-up as well. Scarecrow as a character could be linked to Julian Rush.

[@comeagain....8050]

It would be cool if the “clayface” is what he calls himself because when he’s on bliss he looks at his own face morphing when he looks in mirrors

[@dburton1999]

Yeah that would be great

[@tobelikegodnow]

And he's a great actor, so he can dissappear into his roles. Those all be good attributes for the grounded realism.

[@EricGoebelbecker]

How do you talk about Clayface without mentioning the character named "Karlo" that doesn't just dress in disguises, but is wearing one in the Penguin finale? Really?

[@fitzofpassion]

Yeah. I was also waiting for them to relate it back to Eve, but it’s a theory-time video, so they can imagine whatever version they want. I’m just here for the discussion. It’s fun to guess and get hype out this universe. :-)

[@NeonDemonsMusic]

Omfg FACTS! I will never understand the people that work on this channel, like it seems like the are doing clayface as a female, the way she pretty much shape shifted throughout the whole season, the way she looked literally just like his mom at the end, like not just looked like her but had the same mannerisms, it honestly makes me sooo mad that you’ll have a KZbin channel like this that pride themselves on being comic nerds yet they pretty ignore people in the comments especially when they find or point something out they didn’t find or voice first, and even just this dude and the way he talks in such absolute, like you don’t know anymore than any other fan, in fact in this case it seems like even less.

[@thunderfreeze1544]

It’s cause the people running channels like this, New rockstars, etc aren’t real fans. They just see what’s on Reddit or Wikis and turn it into videos

[@TooSt3p]

I'm willing to bet she won't be Clayface. I for sure pray that isn't the plan.

[@fitzofpassion]

Man, I need to retract my initial comment, because I am not with this angry pitchfork wielding mob in these comments. Yes, I was excited to hear a theory about a clever twist on Clay Face being a sex work who morphs his/her physical being into what the client wants, but it’s not an indictment of the channel or the people working there that they didn’t come up with the exact same theory as I did.

[@RanaldMcDanald]

I would love to see Egghead and Condiment King team up. I bet that’d be a lot of fun.

[@katelynkaboom]

With all the villains being introduced and put in close proximity to each other, seems like a good setup for a Hush-like storyline

[@evolve5527]

This was the best video on this topic by far. Very creative. Great ideas.

[@juancortes5274]

Dang y'all that does sound like an amazing story!

[@StressedRuby]

julian was created as a character for the show from what i heard he was gonna be scarecrow but they rewrote him in to this character instead and kept the scene in as a easter egg supposedly

[@FeloniousGru20104]

We need some lesser known Batman villains to deserve recognition like Ventriloquist, Calendar Man, Professor Pyg, etc.

[@wingman-1977]

Excellent work Screen Crush.

[@waynegrayson2904]

Oscar Isaac’s would be a PERFECT Harvey Dent

[@ghostme1635]

Yeah I agree

[@nicko8605]

Or Bradley Cooper

[@whhhhhhhhh]

@@nicko8605 or Gary Cooper, the strong silent type

[@MrGriff305-d3u]

This show was insanely good. Bravo to the actors, writers, and directors

[@GhostCultMag]

Far and away the best Colton-led video to date! Top tier Hannibal and Succession references.

[@Paddy504]

The Clayface idea is intriguing. A hint of AHS Freak Show would be spooky in this world

[@maineymonroe8225]

It’s not a hint. It’s not that deep. Julian Rush was originally going to be Jonathan Crane. They scrapped it. The set stayed the same. Julian Rush will never be scarecrow unless they pull a retcon out of their ass that it’s not his real name. End of story.

[@BullseyeBobE]

I've been thinking about the idea of Hush and Clayface getting fused into one character. Curious what other people think about that idea

[@tangerinemisfit]

WHERE IS RYAN?!?!?

[@bendidio8720]

^^^

[@mpac3602]

With your mom

[@tangerinemisfit]

@ I’d be totally cool with that

[@theMerovingianMan]

I scream this literally everytime

[@ericxsweat4599]

WHERE IS HE?!?! 🦇

[@billallen7775]

What if clayface DOES get changed but can't form shapes. He has to sculpt his features to impersonate someone that's cool right? He could still appear monstrous if someone sees him on the fear drug or if his sculpting job gets damaged like T2.

[@gr8handsftl]

In the Penguin, Eve's last name is Karlo, just like Clay Face's last name. I'm wondering if they are related or if she will be "Clay Face" because she uses the different costumes to become "different people", like acting like Oz's mom. She would have her girls at her disposal since they all have each others backs, and she knows secrets of others in Gotham, like Oz covering for Carmine and that Sophia isn't the Hangman, etc. What other secrets does she know that she could use?

[@frankenviews4069]

I like the reimagining of "Clayface". I want to take it a step further and make him not just a master of disguise but a master spy. Well trained special forces Black Ops soldier than can match this Batman in hand to hand combat. He can disguise himself as Batman and Bruce to discredit/frame them both in the public eye. He could find out Batman's secret identity while investigating him.

[@thenumberonebeaner2211]

it'd be real cool to see Shades cross over to the DCEU and digivolve into a bigger Villian. Maybe Cottonmouth will make a cameo!

[@DecVeryOwn]

This was a great video. Love your ideas. I hope they see this video and bring you in to write the script. Your ideas can shape this to be the greatest super hero trilogy ever.

[@Rianme1ster]

I think Scarecrow will make Bruce relive his experience with the death of his loved ones, including Thomas Elliot which will introduce us to character.

[@BlutigeTranen]

Consider that Reeves has not been bashful about changing characters' names up. Oz Cobb, for example. Riddler being Edward Nashton despite everyone only knowing him as Nygma. Calling him something other than Jonathan Crane means very little.

[@Colex_ykf]

Maybe crane was a patient there that rush was treating with the bliss and the light . Crane wanted to take it to the next level and starts weaponizing the bliss and the light

[@Jacksuhn]

Love the catch! It looks to me to be more of a trophy situation the way he has them displayed on his desk. Regardless of what it turns out to be, I love that it's in there and hope we do see another great take on an incredible villain.

[@saltandlight2379]

I like how you just used Hannibal clips for the theoretical Scarecrow lol

[@GustavoLopez-xt2kg]

To everything you said: YES! That would be a great trilogy.

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

I don't know if it'll be the right idea to put Johnathan Crane, the Riddler, Joker, Harvey Dent, Penguin and Clayface all in one film. That might be a bit too much. I can see how Oz would unknowingly employ Dent once he sees that he's a bit unstable with his anger, and I can see how Crane would want to talk to Riddler to get a sense of who Batman is. But putting the Joker and Clayface in here might oversaturate the plot. But if something like this does happen, then I pray that it'll be rated R.

[@gr8handsftl]

If Harvey Dent is in this movie, I doubt that he will be Two Face in it. I know that they were discussing a Harvey Dent court room drama series, Which could be good between part 2 and 3. At the end of the series, I could see someone throwing the acid in his face to make him become Two Face

[@Josuerobles11202]

I think the scarecrow gas will be what creates the chaos and I think the court of owls will be revealed and it will show that Batman’s parents were apart of it

[@honoramongscars649]

Honestly, a lot of this video is just making me feel like we're getting Hugo Strange instead of Scarecrow as a "big bad." It helps that Scarecrow's fear toxin originated with Strange back in the Golden Age comics.

[@369frequencyandvibration]

😅 that Adam West clip 😂 perfect Timing!

[@Returned2Flourish]

This was a great video!

[@Sabacc]

Fun video! I’ll admit though, every time you talked about the addictive nature of Bliss I was waiting for the segue to an ad for Fum or something.

[@Matthias2019]

I like the idea joker escapes in the riot and uses bliss to create his laughing gas

[@Matthias2019]

And they could use the fear gas to have man bat and killer croc like clay face

[@jeanvazquez1832]

What a great movie this would be , awesome video!!

[@andyvaldez7025]

Great video!

[@Oderus_Urungus]

11:23 I only noticed this in this video. The club has the same red lights used in the Penguin. Is there some connection there?

[@ctkook6477]

I’d love to see Julian as Scarecrow working for Hugo Strange as the head of Arkham. I wish they would use B D Wong as Strange again. He was so good

[@pratikraut6354]

There are so many great villains in batman’s rouge gallery. I mean there is professor pyg, victor zaz, deathstroke, poison ivy, and so on. We don’t want the villains which have already seen the big screen.

[@BissUNC]

I think Rush becomes Mad Hatter. That's a villain about mind control and Reeves seems to be willing to go with lesser used villains.

[@Tkg100gaming]

Or clay face can partner with crane and the fear toxin can make ppl see the clay monster thing which would make it realistic enough to fit in Batman movie

[@nckgmz83]

I enjoyed this presentation. What a take. What a show. Wow!

[@marcrichardson517]

I like it all… More major writers should watch these channels…

[@aaronbrown9110]

It'll never happen, but I'd love Mister Freeze and Man - Bat. If Matt Reeves gets five movies or two more series, I'd love Black Mask, Deathstroke, and Red Hood🔥🔥🔥

[@nwatt23]

The Batman 2 should be turned into an HBO mini series like The Penguin. Have the Reves-verse on HBO and the Gunn-verse in theaters.

[@Michael_H_Nielsen]

it makes sence. good analysis :)

[@DUBSandChubb]

I can absolutely see this creep ball as the scarecrow!! what is this guy eternally trapped in the tv talking about?!

[@GCOMradio_Lyfeblood]

Great ideas! How everything rolls out especially the crescendo of Batman 3 ending in the Court of Owls. I would hate to be writer’s handling Batman/superhero movies! You guys are good!

[@LilWrenchhh]

I know this is to early to say but i hope after this trilogy we can get another trilogy Matt reaves is a genius and everyone involved make the batman and the penguin so fun to watch

[@jaymezdean2007]

Great assessment bro!

[@rick7401]

I personally do not want to see another scarecrow. Or ioker. Batman has such a large villain base I would love to see more

[@cosiodesign9202]

I kinda feel like it's going to be more of a mind control thing, More like "The Mad Hatter" Rush didn't seem to ride the fear wave on the show, so if there is a Scarecrow, hes probably a coworker of rush or maybe even another Dr. in Arkham.

[@whitey00112]

I mean the end already answered that question. I want to see a good version of Freeze.

[@CA_Refugee]

Dam bro. Just write the movie and submit it! Awesome work!

[@matthewmoore3167]

Brilliant breakdown and potential storyline! I can't wait to see how the joker plays into all of this.

[@rinanicole2174]

I think the true villian could either be "The Mad Hatter" or The Mad Hatter imposter I think the scarecrow stuff in Rush office could be proof The Mad Hatter is controlling scarecrow like in the comic. I think having the Mad Hatter as the lead villian makes more since especially with how t h ey set Rush up his behavior is more in line with this character. Rush could use the red light to implant memories into his victims in this world. Whether he is the real Mad Hatter or an imposter the real Mad Hatter comes after would make things much more interesting. The thing with The Mad Hatter is he can also be a behind the scene villian manipulating and controlling from behind the curtain.

[@kcm2188]

Spot-on video!

[@X0_O7X]

Why are we forgetting about the dialogue between the joker and riddler at the end of Batman the dark night. There is no way they would leave them out after that dialogue that literally says they are escaping and teaming together

[@Gnathus1]

What happened last Tuesday?

[@RiverRusso-lm2bj]

I see the 2nd movie having the Court of Owls as its main antagonist. Penguin and another tbd villian (Scarerow? Mr Freeze? Hush?) will act as secondary antagonists. Harvey Dent and Selina will act as side characters for Batman in this movie. While we’re waiting for the Batman 3, Harvey will probably get a show along with a second season of the Penguin and maybe a Catwoman/Sofia Gigante spinoff. The third film is when Gotham will implode with Two Face, Penguin, and Riddler serving as main antagonists. Joker can finally be set up at the very end.

[@ghostme1635]

Sounds perfect. I like this theory alot. I was thinking the same thing.

[@ctkook6477]

I feel like they might be setting up Gotham City Sirens with Sophia, Selina, and Eve as a version of Clayface.

[@stevekincaide2651]

you just couldn't resist fan casting

[@mikeysmunchies2175]

Vic’s coming back as Mr Freeze lol

[@ctkook6477]

I also think they might introduce Mr. Freeze who’s trying to cure Ozs mom as a creepy Nora stand in

[@Nedmac]

I know this is a stretch, but I thought that with the Mr. Freeze rumors maybe Penguin could sorta become him. Maybe he tries to keep his mother alive by freezing her (instead of his wife like with Mr. Freeze) and then when Batman comes for him Oz decides to use the same freezing method to get rid of him.

[@anakin-is-panakin]

We did not get enough scarecrow in Batman begins. Julian was compelling enough

[@sleepyboient]

I like the set up shows for Batman. Build clayface for a season after a true intro in Batman 2.

[@gregariuss]

12:41 I have been wanting to hold onto this theory in my back pocket for a while longer, but check this out. I think Basil Karlo may end up being the kid of Eve and Oz in this universe. Eve Karlo it’s already shown to be somewhat master of disguise. She changes her look, depending on the role or the man paying for her time. I think that idea is gonna carry on to our official clay face character in-universe. Maybe I’m wrong and it could even be her after Oz screws her over. But I have this feeling that she will bring that character into the world somehow. Maybe it’s not child but relative.

[@BartSkatez]

The fear aspect would really work with Batman and scarecrow but the next movie is gonna be snowy and cold and rumored to be connected with Xmas, I feel like it’s pointing towards freeze, u also got the penguin going to be in it and the 3rd film

[@RedAnimal100]

If I remember right Gotham had a pretty decent live action “scarecrow”

[@JulioG84]

Don't forget about Hugo strange. He is an O.G. character and is sometimes partnered with Scarecrow.

[@Sirbobo619]

Killed all the theories wow. strap in were in for a riddddeeee.!!!!!

[@GeorgeVidal]

Has no one talked about the Owl gargoyles outside the Penguins building during the last shot of the season.

[@oddnmacabre1825]

Rush as the scarecrow would be a shame. It is crane

[@lovetodrawstufff3644]

I don't think scare crow will appear they said that Julian was originally written in the script at the start as scare crow but they changed it along the way I'm pretty sure I heard that was a prop left there incase they decided to change it later in episodes but they didn't they just made him Julian

[@Jjamesmiller86]

I love the idea you have for Clayface!

[@diamondminddynastyinc.2389]

I think eve is gonna be clayface. She already plays whatever role is needed for the situation

[@jasonhendricks67]

That is a good theory and everything all connected for the batman 2 and 3 the matt reeves version is going to be amazing and good

[@redomagnus4762]

Question for me is whether that is rush, or actually Sophia. if you look at the mask in the arkham games, theres a noose around the neck. i also think that was in one of the animated shows/films? Could be a great twist and keep Sophia in the story.

[@BigMuff520]

I still can’t figure out if the memories induced during the EMDR sessions with Julian were real or implanted by Julian or perhaps heavily embellished by Julian.

[@xandersmith7775]

If Eve Karlo turns into a version of Clayface later down the road I'm gonna be sooo jazzed!

[@AB-xd5gx]

I don’t think Julian Rush is going to work with Oz. Oz put Sophia back in Arkham who Julian is in love with. If anything Sophia is going to get Julian to go after Oz.

[@josephmowitch5551]

I really don’t think scarecrow and bliss are connected. Highly doubt, but I do like the video here

[@JROTCBALL]

I read they originally wanted him to be Crane but changed that during the writing phase.. so I highly doubt any of this comes true and it was just a throw away Easter egg from their first draft

[@nickohhh]

ok but when does bats get vengeance for vik!? 😭 this vid was amazing by the way