How Powerful Are the Warframes?

[@enderskunk7644]

The thing is when you see a warframe it is pretty likely that there are three more in the area...

[@neitherlink6612]

I think the moment you put a spartan against someone capable of creating anti mater at will, the winner is quite obvious.

[@detonater7441]

neitherlink guardians

[@kierancc9095]

Also limbo who can STOP TIME. Granted only in the rift but he can use cataclysm while in the rift so it’s 100% safe

[@detonater7441]

Kieran c C guardians can stop time

[@famthemper973]

And for valkyr that just goes invincible for all the time she want? Halo can do that?

[@neitherlink6612]

@@detonater7441 if you are talking about Destiniy’s guardians, I suppose you mean specifically Voidwalkers. Nova would just be able to teleport before the Nova Bomb hits, teleport back, and obliterate everything. Skipping the fact she can not only harness it, but control it, so she is immune to it in the first place.

[@thetruth2258]

Warframes are extremely OP. People dont realize they are roaming around with an ending scenario being, with each and every Warframe being used 🤣

[@jamespaguip5913]

@THE TRUTH Except that forunners from halo would destroy them easily because forunners have weapons that can destroy solar system and the entire galaxy plus side forunners can create ships the size of planets and they can create life and destroy life also forunner can time stop also they have slip space technology I assumed you never played halo.

[@thetruth2258]

@@jamespaguip5913 Eh no. Halo has no chance against the Warframe universe. From the looks of it, you still didnt understand my comment. Each and every Warframe has abilities that could destroy, bend time, create life at will and so much more that could potentially cause destruction in the known universe. Halo spartans are like ants compared to Warframes lol.

[@Everydayartist12]

@@jamespaguip5913 nova warps space. Limbo can banish it to a dimension he has complete control over . Theres a time warframe aswell

[@TheDragonfriday]

@@jamespaguip5913 I played a Halo since halo 2 I never seen or heard of this....

[@TheDragonfriday]

@@jamespaguip5913 limbo literally can easily avoid the rings by not part of the world... explain how the Forunners can touch him?

[@falseprophet1415]

So, let's break down the barebones basics. Speed: anywhere from 50-60 kmh running, depending on mods and specific Warframes. Strength: Able to swing around large, dense, heavy hammers, axes and Great Swords. Single sword swings sufficient to cleave armored enemies in half. Leaping height of around 7 meters in the air, straight up, without mods. Reaction Time/Reflexes: Can deflect bullets/plasma bolts, varying on weapon and modification used. Durability: Can endure HUNDREDS of round of equally leveled enemy fire before being incapacitated/neutralized. And this is all WITHOUT the Warframe's individual Powers. Atlas? Literally punched a meteor into fragments. Ash? Deploys quick, unblockable dopplegangers that kill instantly. Nyx? Mind control someone into serving her. Rhino? He STOMPS the ground and causes a 5.0 Ricter scale earthquake around himself for 8 meters. Volt? Blasts lightning like a magician flicks cards from his sleeve. Excalibur? Mag? Vauban? Mirage? Hydroid? No chance. Don't even get me started on Wukong or Nekros. The ONLY two warframes any Spartan has a chance of having a square fight against is Baruuk and Yaereili. Edit: Forgot to include the ONE Warframe a Spartan can legit fight against: Inaros. I'm sorry/not sorry, he's just trash.

[@digitalhomic8155]

barruk can legit doge incoming fire and put ppl to sleep only yaereili and i think even she could give them a hard time

[@possiblymisha]

Baruuk can literally circumvent damage and but bro to sleep. Respectfully, Chief ain't winning that. Second, Yarleli became fairly viable after buffs. Her razor ability cuts through grineer armour, and her water currents are strong enough to restrain even the heavier units. Chief's only equal opponent would be Teshin, and considering that (in lore) he's implied to have put up a fight against the Tenno during the War Within, even that would not be an easy fight for Chief.

[@lucasbrav131]

not even. the basic grineer lancers, the weakest in the game, wear hundreds of pounds of armor, and the armor itself is not an power armor, while also being able to lift small vehicles. and then... a warframe slices them in half with a single sword swing. nah

[@ThatChalk]

Baruuk can erase a platoon with a single punch what are you talking about

[@manunova5929]

Uh... Baruuk is one of the most powerful frames. He has access to 4 layers of damage reduction, can dodge bullets standing still, put his enemies to sleep and has access to one of the most powerful exalted weapons. He could punch or kick one guy, break his entire skeleton, and with the shockwave of the same hit kill everyone around.

[@RenzorTheRed]

I like to think of grineer as marines in power armor. Strong enough to terrorize and dominate a system and decimate normal people/combatants. And the warframe are likewise able to decimate the grineer. Nowadays in warframe, with endgame builds for steel path, warframes going into normal star chart and relic cracking missions are basically invincible.

[@mrtree7201]

Another thing The grinner don't use power armor they use just heavy armor So they have to luge around this canonical over 10000 pound armor while doing everything else

[@mrtree7201]

Even more is that's just the basic Lancer the heavy and nox are even worse

[@enderskunk7644]

Death battle did calculate the parrying speed of excalibur and the punch force of atlas and both are ridiculusly high...

[@enderskunk7644]

Excalibur can swing at 9.4% the speed of light and Atlas can deliver 46 Gigatons of TNT in one punch...

[@enderskunk7644]

Excalibur (a warframe) can swing his sword, the skana, at 9,4% the speed of light. Atlas (another warframe) was able to pulverise an Asteroid as big as the one that wiped out the dinosaurs with a single punch.

[@X20Adam]

AKA: Atlas Solo's

[@Mario.1997]

If I'm being quite honest, the Grenier can be compared to the Halo Spartans directly, albeit budget Halo Spartans.

[@crackalackin3877]

On the contrary, Spartans wear power armor that help enhance their performance, and they weigh in about half a ton. That goes for about every spartan. The lowest ranked cloned grineer wear armor about the same weight, extremely dense. The fact that there are many ranks in the grineer faction with even tankier armor begs the question if kuva liches are casually walking around with several tons of weight on them

[@neonclips4717]

What’s a grenier

[@deleteduser3455]

Kuva Lich vs any other unit the covenant or forerunners have wouldn’t be a contest

[@jackallett8236]

Isn't that because they're immortal unless mercied with a specific mod sequence.

[@deltaprimis3045]

Hey dont forget in the plains when the greneer drop from there ships they are sitting on the side of the ship that same ship that just left hyperdrive...... how strong are the grineer anyway......

[@thetruth2258]

Grineer's are tanks, they are just fodder to us because we are using extremely OP beings like Excalibur Umbra for example.

[@danielallen839]

If the Tenno where a faction in 40k and you replaced the void with the warp the Tenno would be extremely powerful and the imperium would consider them a serious threat but they probably wouldn’t go to war because as the Tenno go they are a small but potent faction but they would excel at fighting orks the nids and chaos

[@xenogorwraithblade2538]

Not saying I don't agree, but I feel like the Tenno would be more wrapped up in their own shit. Kinda like the Tau in that regard, but vastly more potent.

[@lucasbrav131]

Tenno are mostly benevolent, so they wouldn't fight the imperium itself. HOWEVER, due to the way they are justicers/etc, they will try (and succeed at) overthrowing the current imperial regime. they are also incredibly good spies and some are even able of mind control, so the public eye/the imperial forces wouldn't even notice their advances before it's too late. they'd all be doing that for good reasons, though The tenno would also probably just vanquish ALL of the non-human factions if they think it is necessary. Dark Eldar, Nids (comparable to the infested, which might be superior in terms of adaptation), all Chaos War Bands, Orcs... all gone.

[@arandomthingintheabyss2062]

tldr they be a faction smaller then the tau but they be a faction full of demon princes/primarchs tho that probably low balling it

[@albertoramirezlerma716]

Lo que hace especiales a los Tenno es su vinculación con el vacío ¿porque quieres cambiar eso? Además, la Zariman tenía dimensiones inmensas y suficiente espacio para la menos 40 millones de personas aproximadamente, así que si lo piensas detenidamente bien deberían haber como 12 millones de Tenno y eso no es precisamente un número pequeño teniendo en cuenta lo que pueden hacer cada uno por separado.

[@thejuggernaut1793]

If u just offer them something of interest they will fight with u and they are always help both allies and enemies if they offer anything of value

[@llemonshop]

24:17 well since you asked The closest thing to a slipspace weapon was removing the slipspace drive from a frigate, using it as a sort of bomb to remove a sphere from the center of a corvette. This can not be directed however, and being within the radius would instantly not only kill, but destroy everything. Not exactly a viable anti-personnel weapon.

[@pettyofficer1192]

I like reading fanfiction that deals with thing like comparing like the Tenno to the capes of Worm. I love seeing people's take on power scale. It's pretty cool.

[@pettyofficer1192]

Things*

[@jamespaguip5913]

Forunners would easily beat the orokin because they can turn people into data and they can destroy solar systems and the entire galaxy, forunners can create life and destroy life easily.

[@dominictan9696]

@@jamespaguip5913 besides the destroying galaxies, the orokin pretty much did all what you listed. If you think about it the Orokin can destroy galaxies if you consider they where able to warp reality itself and was able to terraform gas giants into a water world and a frozen planet. All life with in the sol system is already artificially made. There is no natural plant and animal life left since the orokin created life in order to make some recemblace to old earth. (Silver grove quest.) They created the grenier, the Dax and the infested. The sentients as well that grew intelligence aka life. Turn people to data. Chephalons. Simari's Sanctuary. He literally sends us to datatize living organic creatures. With what you listed I can tell you dont know or fully understood what the Orokin had accomplished.

[@StartledGhost]

@@jamespaguip5913 the Orokin do the exact same thing, plus they have the Dax army and Warframes. And depending on what time period they also had the Grineer in the past and the sentients in the future along with the warframes. Orokin owned the entire system for a reason and anyone that tried to do something got destroyed fast.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@StartledGhost foreunners are far above the orokin. Magnitudes more powerful, it's not a contest

[@SenseofNoneYT]

Great video. A few therories and stuff I noticed in WF I want to mention too. (A bit long I'm sorry.) I don't think you can count the Orbs for all the Corpus tech. IIRC it's an exclusive tech developed by Nef Anyo to keep Venus right in the palm of his hands. It's probably one of the few weaponry that even the Grineer cannot possibly deal with. Taking down the Orbs require a more surgical attack.Which the Grineer doesn't really do. The Grineer simply overwhelms the Corpus. What they lack in brain-power, they make up for with sheer force. They clone themselves to the point where the latest generations have physical deformations and mental degradation into dumber but more violent behaviors. But the tactical intelligence side won't matter much if you equip these countless clones with heavy armor and weaponry. And also, I'm quite positive the original Grineer were genetically modified to be literal builders for the Orokin. I think they might have innate physical strength way above the average Corpus unit. I think that's why they can wield such ridiculous weapons and armor single-handedly. Lastly, I've noticed that the usual difference between the planets colonized by the Grineer and the ones colonized by the Corpus are the bosses. The Grineer usually have similar units and technology across the different planets they occupy. And that each planet is run by 1 Grineer that is in a different league from the rest. Vay Hek, Kela, Tyl Regor, and so on. But the planets that the Grineer can't seem to occupy are the planets where the Corpus managed to develop certain special types of weaponry. The bosses aren't 1 Corpus unit. It's a type of unit they can keep making and that the Tenno has to sabotage. Like, the Grineer prolly couldn't take Venus because of Jackals and Orbs; Pluto because of Ambulas; Europa because of Raptors; Neptune because of the Hyenas. If you don't compare these weapons to Warframes, they are ridiculously lethal by themselves. And it makes sense that the Grineer could not take over those planets even though they have been winning the war for like a century. God bless you if you actually read all this. Have a good day.

[@soniaserval8655]

Yeah the Grineer were completely created by the Orokin. I also think that a Halo Brute is stronger than three Grineer.

[@deleteduser3455]

Grineer are tactical but they do use brute force too

[@FerunaLutelou]

Grineer were indeed made by the Orokin, but not just to build things. Most of the hard labor was handled by slaves, and Grineer were simply made to be the perfect slaves. As for their strength, that's mostly just cybernetics and prosthetics.

[@lucasbrav131]

The Kuva Grineer forces could probably overwhelm the system if it weren't for the Tenno. Their access to Kuva and the Continuity it grants basically give them copy-pasted Warframes

[@howardyoo4070]

Another thing that has to be said is that the vacuum of space plus all the extreme temperature differences and radiation from stars just don't really bother them

[@grimm_lord]

Also the grineer are practically budget Spartans and the Warframe decimates them. So no way in hell is master chief, as much as I love the guy, will be able to hold his ground with any Warframe. Warframe will mop the floor with him.

[@Vyt3x]

Actually, kela's orbital strike gets you out of void mode dealing about 100 dmg. Probably not lore accurate, but noteworthy

[@RenzorTheRed]

I always deal with the strike portion of fighting her by going into void mode. Haven't noticed any adverse effects.

[@Mausyboi]

How doesn't this video have more views the content is amazing

[@MurakumoVance]

I deeply appreciate the praise! It means a lot to me. Unfortunately the answer to your question is KZbin algorithms. They've been very poor since 2018 and to make matters worse the site unsubscribed 500+ people. I'm not the only person this is happening to, but I surely am affected by it in a very harmful way :/

[@Mausyboi]

@@MurakumoVance thats such ashame, KZbin can be so dumb sometimes

[@Kacchi90]

yoooooo sup vance, happy new year to you. Wondering how is your daughter doing? also nice vid man

[@MurakumoVance]

Just getting by, waiting for court in February to see my bundle of joy. Sad holidays without her. Happy New Year, and thanks as always!

[@Kacchi90]

@@MurakumoVance damn thats rough man, would be nice to have your daughter next to you to end this decade strong. Keep strong man

[@blackmib]

gameplay versus lore for warframe are night and day in my opinion for instance inaros covered a planet in sand in game hes a tank with pocket sand and if you look into what most warframes manipulate they could wipe out planets espescially saryn the middle finger to the geneva convention

[@Penitten]

lol, well said xD

[@yodagaming5905]

Saryn could wipe out a planet's population though

[@Penitten]

@@yodagaming5905 A Tennis ball size portion of anti matter could destroy the Earth. Then there's Nova...

[@yodagaming5905]

@@Penitten I know nova's stronger, but I'm thinking about how saryn ability to make diseases

[@Penitten]

@@yodagaming5905 True dat 😉

[@SkyEcho751]

So I will say there was a slight error. The Kuva Guardians are Not "Immune to all damage except void", rather they hold an 'immortality granting weapon' which can't be disarmed except through void dashing through the guardian. Normal forms of Disarming in-game do not work, so unless you have a character that can literally become a ghost, disarming the Kuva guardian isn't possible.

[@sheepersouls9898]

Volt is faster than gauss in game and lore but in lore they are the fastest two frames, only like 1 or 2 frames here and there can fight superman, BUT them in their charged forms are absurd

[@limboprime4008]

For fastest frames in game are titania and nova, this 2 frames are S tier Whiles Gauss and Volt are A tier Even lore wise Nova manage to get that bandit in a fracture of a second whit her wormholes I would say Nova is probably the fastest frame in the WF universe

[@limboprime4008]

@@OldZilla yeah i know, but because of her teleportation she is the fastest

[@prophecybydefault4708]

@@limboprime4008 that's not speed, that's teleportation. Speed us respective to how you move through the world/space relative to time. Not just jumping to a set location.

[@limboprime4008]

@@prophecybydefault4708 like i said because of her teleportation she is faster as well as titania whit her flying Running is not the only thing making a warframe fast

[@prophecybydefault4708]

@@limboprime4008 no- you're missing my point. If we are talking about lore speed, volt and gauss are still faster. It's like time is slowed down for them. They are FASTER in terms if being able to MOVE and REACT to things faster.

[@someonewhoseesthings]

One of the difficult aspects of scaling Warframes is that their abilities alter reality rather than operate within its rules. Mag's second ability is a magnetic field that redirects--not bends--light itself. That's not physically possible; magnetic fields would have to get into the billions of tesla to "kink" space itself, far exceeding even the highest magnetic force ever observed in the universe. So if we applied Mag's ability to a scientifically accurate universe, then at level 1 with no mods she could still strip the event horizon off of a black hole, expose the naked singularity beneath, and mold it into an infinite multiverse. But that's not happening in Warframe's universe. It's far more likely that Warframe abilities are like "wishes," and Warframes are like genies that use "energy" instead of contracts to grant those wishes. One Warframe differs from the next simply in what kind of wishes they exist to grant. They are literal manifestations of "power fantasy." The powers they posses are themed on the trauma that creates them; a power they fantasized about having as their sanity shattered. So yeah, it's difficult to scale a Warframe to other media because they don't have any built in limitations. They are the storytellers of their own reality, able to make retroactive edits and produce phenomenon that would be impossible even to one who wields infinite energy and mass.

[@limboprime4008]

The Grinier are scary and powerfull But whit recent updates we have seen the corpus are starting to catch up, and there newer units are more modified to deal whit a warframe But unlike the grinier they havent reach that point of yet i would say For like guardians they are killable, by removing the stuff from them, the kuva on it keeps them immune But if you remove it they won't be anymore, in game this is done by using void blast. But i recon anyone can do it by using some kind of close combat technik Oh and you forgot the amalgams the corpus sentient hybrids They can fought off a warframe and surely are difficult to take down As well as make a copy of there enemy and enemy weaponry as well as abilities and fully regenerate making them quite formidable As well as that one amalgam that boost the fighting cability as well as tankinest of its alias

[@jamespaguip5913]

Covanant would easily glass them because covanant has ships the size as moons also they have scarabs and locusts also silent shadow covanant ships are durable enough to resist nukes.

[@limboprime4008]

@@jamespaguip5913 maybe, but a warframe is more powerful than a simple nuke And the grinier and corpus ships are quite formidable themselves

[@jamespaguip5913]

@@limboprime4008 Forunners themselves can destroy orokin empire and the warframes easily, forunners build ships the size of planets that can destroy solar systems also their ships has slip space technology, forunners has weapons that can destroy anyone in a molecular level forunners can create life and destroy life they made constructs that can destroy life in a galactic scale, also they can turn people into data and can time stop and they have an army of super soldier that can destroy entire armies.

[@limboprime4008]

@@jamespaguip5913 they could destroy the warframes if they can find them Warframes are pretty stealthy and undectable + their orbiters have stealth ships that are great at influtreathing enemy ships or surfaces and once they get detected it would be too late Also the orokin as well can turn ppl into data or ai, this are chephalots that can hack a lot of shit, depending on the Forunners firewall i dont thing their planet size ships would be much of a problem if a cheplalot can hack it, that is if everyone on board wasn't killed by the warframes already They might have super soldiers that can kill armies, but don't forget warframes are beyond that, they are like gods

[@jamespaguip5913]

@@limboprime4008 the problem with orokin is that they dont have ships the size of planets yes I do agree that orokin are powerful but they only as powerful as ancient humans, the forunners has access to advance AI they destroyed gods like the precursors and their ships can travel to other galaxies, they have access to slip space their ships can destroy entire systems and can destroy entire stars forunner like I said is galactic scale threat and they can turn stars into black holes the orokin can't travel around the galaxy and can not destroy solar systems orokin doesn't have galactic scale weapons warframe maybe powerful but halo has the most powerful figures.

[@nukedpyro]

Dude i feel like the star wars universe would crap itself when the tenno show up. I mean the force is broken as fuck already, but theres a few warframes that can do damn near the same shit, then you have limbo and nova, ones fuckin with dimensions and the other can rip ATOMS APART, also they dont die 😂 cut em up, blow em up, shoot em to swiss cheese. They're just gonna come back after a bit and itll probably be buddy you killed earlier

[@pdfoltin5076]

i even think that you might have slightly underestimated the corpus and grineer

[@soniaserval8655]

This was a really well made video and I loved it. But while Warframe is one of my favorite games Halo is another. I wanted to remind you that Spartans are absolutely insane aswell.

[@citizenvulpes4562]

I'mma be straight up, spartans have no chance against what's basically a demi god. Like at most if you put 30 spartans in a room with one frame I honestly think the frame would at most walk out with a few scratches, while all the Spartans would be massacred.

[@soniaserval8655]

@@citizenvulpes4562 I do agree that Warframes are on a whole nother level, but I don't think that 30 Spartans would get destroyed by a Warframe. It appears that, based on the new war cinematic, Warframes are only as durable as a Spartan. In a fight between the two, I think it all comes down to what frame, what generation of Spartan, what armor the Spartan has on, and numbers. I'm gonna start by talking about Loki vs. a Spartan II with Mk6. 8 out of 10 the Spartan would win. Loki doesn't have something that could overpower a Spartan, nor outwhit a Spartan. However, Rhino vs. a Spartan II would probably be a reverse 8/10 Rhino would win. Rhino is comparable to a brute chieftain it seems (in the Halo lore it takes the combined fire of a squad of 10 marines to break a Brute chieftain's armor). A chieftain versus a Spartan seems to be around 6/10 for a Spartan II if they are within sprinting range? But Rhino is more intelligent than the average Brute. So 8/10. It gets extremely complicated if we talk about what frame however because we are never told the limits of a frame (since energy and shit is just a gameplay mechanic).

[@silentsinner6672]

@@soniaserval8655 Ok I don't comment a lot but if you're aware of the Second Dream you would know that when a Warframe dies as long as it's connected to a Tenno it will rise again. The 4-6 revive limit is simply a game mechanic for the sake of balance so even if anything from the Halo universe wins the initial fight the Warframe would get back up and make it a fight of attrition so the answer to kill a Warframe is to kill the Tenno slight problem. First even in their own world the Tenno are a little known secret even you yourself don't know till the Second Dream. Second in the newest quest the New War the player's Tenno is stabbed through the heart with a great sword and their lifeless body is yeeted into the Void then an unknown time later the Tenno simply reappears so even killing the Tenno is a temporary solution in the New War we also learn that the source of the Tenno's power is a deal they made with an Eldrich God known as The Man in The Wall who likes to mimic the appearance of who it appears to. If this doesn't convince you then I'll gladly go on about frames Loki and Rhino aren't even close to the strongest frames in the game and even then you underestimate them only going by their defensive stats. Loki can not only go invisible but he can also make the weapons of all nearby enemies disappear with a literal wave of his hand. Rhino can buff himself with his Iron Skin and essentially give himself another health pool you have to get through in order to damage his health and shields he can also use his Roar ability to drastically increase the damage his weapons deal.

[@soniaserval8655]

@@silentsinner6672 Yeah I know that stuff but I'm talking about a fight till the first KO. Also, Spartans don't need guns at all to kill, they can quite easily take out foes at close range. They also have motion sensors. I also meant that Rhino with his iron skin, is like a brute chieftain. Also I was using examples of simple frames and I thought I acknowledged that most frames are insane.

[@soniaserval8655]

@@silentsinner6672 Also, for not commenting alot, your comment is very well made!

[@yokai1235]

excalibur exalted blade or any weapon that can hit a object in multiple dimensions can hit the tenno

[@MurakumoVance]

Not true. As of LAST NIGHT. A clan-mate and I tested the effectiveness of amps and other powers on Tenno cloaked, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING penetrates the void enough to damage them.... As it is (currently in game) there is nothing that damages them. They are outright immune to all incoming damage, even damage intended to strip standard void immunity. Is actually absurd!

[@yokai1235]

@@MurakumoVance its on the lore and happens during the sacrifice quest maybe they never bothered to program as you can't use the operator on conclave

[@limboprime4008]

@@MurakumoVance in the quest umbra 1 shots you whit the javline ability Let alone the blade Then again umbra is probably more equipped or build to kill sentients and tenno

[@soniaserval8655]

@@limboprime4008 Oh my god it's Limbo Prime. Sorry I've been selling you like a slave dude.

[@valor1omega]

That's why I never use finishers on the pre lich enemy and let them die by bleed out.

[@nicholaskalani2793]

Watching this in 2024 is sureal. The Tenno have only become stronger since this video.

[@user-mg9ol5bf2m]

24:20 Slip space bombs: am I a joke to you

[@Aros-pr2xr]

I love how someone finally used Nyx in a thumbnail

[@SpamorammA]

If you play like a new player id say youd be on par with a spartan, an astartes would stomp you. But once you get a hang of the game and get decent gear you would have a fair chance of taking on a squad or unit of either. But tryhards, man those guys could wipe out entire divisions and chapters. Hell, a squad of tenno would very well stand good a chance against a primarch or a didact ore maybe a maker. I think thats what theyre called, its been a few years since I read all the halo books.

[@deception180]

Batman would need 10 days of prep time just to beat Excalibur

[@deception180]

High dif

[@deception180]

+the justice league

[@ParagonGoetia]

Arguebly this would be like when the Joker obtained 4th dimensional powers but worse, as if Perpetua on steroids was doing it. In other words, my man bats aint really prep for this one.

[@absolutleynotanalien8096]

Warframes are faster than Master Chief so it would be dificult for him to fight them att range so even tho most of their abilities are close range they would still be able to use them and i dont think Master Chief would expekt them to be able to do what they are able to do unless this is some scenario where he has seen them or ben told about them from someone but they all have different abilities so even if he has seen a recording of a battle he still probably wont know what he is upp against and they have different stats to and can canonically do more than they can in game Mag is supose to have complete kontroll over magnetism but in game she clearly dont but even in game i dont think Master Chief could deal with someone who can yeet him around and compleatly incapasitate him and crush him but with spartan time he will be able to keep track of her while bullet jumping so thats something.

[@enderskunk7644]

The warframes weren't even bringing out the big guns like archwings, archguns, necramechs or railjack Artilery.

[@LUNA-zj5gy]

A better foe for the warframes would be the guardians from destiny and even then I don’t think a Warframe stands a chance against a guardian considering guardians turn gods into weapons and armor but I’d be a bit more fair because I believe there are things in warframe that can keep up to some degree with stuff available to guardians

[@silentsinner6672]

I agree the Halo universe doesn't stand a chance against the Warframe universe and Destiny is a much more fair comparison but even then I've played both quite a bit but I will say in fairness Warframe is the game I quit Destiny for so haven't played Destiny in 2 years but from what I remember I still think the Tenno beat the Guardians if we're being honest we both know the Gods in Destiny are weak I'm certain the Tenno could also beat Crota and Oryx and whoever else the Guardians have fought I know mine could at least. The Tenno and Guardians are much more comparable both have strange powers and some degree of immorality granted by their respective Gods. That being said the Warframes are much faster and more mobile than the Guardians by a longshot nevermind the fact that 2 different Frames have full on Super-Speed so the Tenno and their Warframes win there. Well durability? There are several frames that can take way more punishment than any Guardian to all of the powers I'm about to list here keep in mind that the popular Mod (the name of upgrades that are put on Tenno's gear) Hunter Adrenaline gives the Warframe energy they can use to cast these abilities when they take damage to their health. Trinity can almost instantly heal herself and her entire team. Rhino can use his Iron Skin to create essentially a separate health pool that you have to break before being able to damage his health and shields. Limbo can at any time enter the rift a mirror plane where others can see him but can't interact with him unless he brings them in as well and in the rift he can control time using these things together he can easily divide and conquer. My personal favorite Nidus has no shields but instead has rapid health regeneration and A LOT of health in addition he can link himself to an enemy or ally for a full minute when he does so to an enemy they enemy is stunned and 90% of the damage Nidus takes is absorbed by the enemy I'm still not done with Nidus in addition to all that the when he uses his 3 other abilities he gains mutation stacks that make his abilities stronger and with his passive ability as long as he has at least 15 of these stacks (which aren't hard to get) he simply ignores any damage that would bring his health to 0 and instead becomes invincible for 5 seconds and his healthbar refills fully this has no cooldown unless you use a certain mod that in exchange for increasing your cap of 100 stacks to 300 it gives this a 30 second cooldown (a lot of people don't use it for that reason but if you have to rely on that ability every 30 seconds you clearly don't know how to play Nidus) There are several other nearly unkillable frames but these are the ones I'm most familiar with and clearly they're more durable than anything in Destiny so Warframe wins there as well. Ok spoilers for the Second Dream and New War in this section but also probably the best reason Warframe wins. What happens when you kill a Warframe? It rises again as long as it's connected to a Tenno in game this is represented by the 4-6 lives you have in each mission in lore it's infinite but yknow game balance and all that so the only way to kill a Warframe is to kill the Tenno that controls it which first off isn't easy they can become intangible and invincible with little effort and can teleport but even then in the New War the player's Tenno is stabbed through the heart with a greatsword and their lifeless body is yeeted into the Void yet the Tenno simply remanifests an unknown time (if I had to guess 1-5 years) later so it's shown this is a temporary solution. The source of the Tenno's power is a deal they made with a Lovecraftian styled God known as The Man in The Wall who likes to appear to people as doppelgangers of them he appears to live in an unknown location in the Void. Conversely the Guardian's source of power The Traveler is a large machine that was damaged by a nuclear strike from the Warmind Rasputin showing it can be damaged also in Destiny lore itself the Ghosts that are responsible for the Guardian's immorality can be destroyed buy gunfire not to mention the Tenno's superior vehicles and weapons if it came to a full on war between the two (only way I'd see that happening is if The Man in The Wall order the Tenno to destroy The Traveler) my money is on the Tenno.

[@LUNA-zj5gy]

@@silentsinner6672 the reason I say guardians are a very good match for a warframe is because of their powers, the light is significantly more powerful than anything a warframe has to offer I don’t believe a inaros can tank a Nova bomb to the face which in lore is compared to a black hole collapsing in on itself and considering guardians also fight armies without feeling fatigued, hunger, or anything any mortal person would and they’re hard hitting attacks and if you’ve ever played Mayham in destiny it’s said it’s guardians with no restraints or holding back their power and if a guardian gets his hands on prime weapons and infused them with the light they’re gonna be significantly more powerful the light is an anti logical or paracausual power which means it doesn’t abide by the laws of our reality and can cut holes in our universe in used correctly and going back to warframes vs oryx or Crota you couldn’t be more incorrect Oryx in the warframe universe would win overnight there isn’t a single foe in the warframe universe that even comes close to his level of power he can control the will of anything in his presence so the tenno would be taken their frames would be taken and pretty much everything would be under Oryx’s command in no time the only thing i see being a threat to some degree is maybe hunhow but even then he’s been shattered and isn’t at full power but even then oryx would just take his sentients oryx has quit literally been around since the early days of the universe he’s significantly more intelligent than anything in the warframe universe I’m sorry but considering it took a tremendous amount of light and 6 guardians to kill him I don’t think any Tenno stand a chance and let’s high ball a warframe real quick let’s take limbo who can just banish oryx out of the universe right easy win, well wrong because oryx’s sword can cut holes in reality and simply walk out of it and be immune to it because the darkness will give him the answers he’s looking for (tablets of ruin) and all crota has to do is touch the surface of the planet he’s on and the whole thing is being whipped of life and drained of light which is how he was able to kill an army of guardians and I could go on but I’d be willing to have this conversation over discord or something I’m tryna do some fashion frame rn lol

[@gaiofattos2]

​@@silentsinner6672 Bro, how Crota and Oryx are weak ? Crota couldn't be killed by the guardians unless they followed Crota's universe own rules, same for Oryx both hive gods that have their own dimension because they are powerful. And the traveler was never hit by nuclear warheads from Rasputin, thats headcannon and all damage to it was from the black fleet and from it own wake up in the red war.

[@StartledGhost]

@@LUNA-zj5gy warframes cant die nor can the Operator, they can bend reality and control the Void. Regardless if you destroyed the frame and somehow the Operator. The Operator is attached to the Paradox. They will just be reborn again and again. You couls kill them in the paradox and they would still come back. But a Guardian is limited on how much they can do we saw that during Forsaken with Cayde 6. Sure you may kill some warframes but if you kill one that just means the operator can either revive it or summona different one to take you out without even having to show up. The entire Hive would have been destoryed fast as hell along with the Cabal and the forsaken and the vex. Guardians arent God's yes but they have beaten Gods well they have beaten things who assumed they were. Warframes and Operators are Gods.

[@ak0097]

A warframe could kill the entire tower of gaurdians and thier ghosts with ease. ONE warframe, ONE.

[@Noir-Force]

Great content!

[@Zawaito]

If warframes were scps they would be classified as keter

[@limboprime4008]

Keter? They will be classified as XK world ending scenario We can litery nuke worlds whit out full strength at cost of our lives Look up protea or inaros quest They mention well how after this frames used they full power they got damaged to the point of no return

[@Zawaito]

@@limboprime4008 the thing is that they depend on the will of another being that, at the current moment, is meant to show no harm unless attacked (the tenno) but is almost impossible to contain

[@limboprime4008]

@@Zawaito depends The umbra frames have independence while the others were build whit more restriction, to there free will And the tenno whit ease could level a world if they want Like Alad said in the second dream, "you almost erased an entire civilation when you were fighting whit the sentients"

[@lihzzahrdspeed6631]

They pose no danger and it would be impossible to contain most warframes so they would be keter because keter doesn’t mean dangerous even though most keter class scps are very dangerous

[@Zawaito]

@@lihzzahrdspeed6631 that's the whole point, like, the only one that would really pose a treat is umbra cause it have a mind of its own, but his kit is, of them all, one of the least dangerous.

[@biomegamechdude]

wow never thought u would do such a vid since as u told me quite a while back u do not even really care about Warframe story so either thats changed or ur bored XD

[@TheRagnus]

I'd probably put most of the warframes at around the same level as Ultramarines from Warhammer 40k. That may not seem like much for non-Warhammer fans, but to put it briefly, Ultramarines practically fightly near godlike, highly advanced demons, chaos gods, aliens, etc., on a daily basis. They certainly don't always win those fights, but that fact they're strong enough to pose any sort of threat to foes that powerful is testament to their level of power. One could argue that the Ultramarines are probably one of the most overpowered military regiments in fiction. Maybe not at the top, but definitely up there. On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is Halo Spartan level and 10 is Warhammer 40k Ultramarine level, I'd probably put most warframes between 6-8. The stealth warframes would probably fall between 4-5. (I'm factoring in the powers of the Tenno alongside the warframes themselves).

[@MurakumoVance]

As you'll find with part 2 of this video. Currently (cannon to lore) the Tenno are even FAR BEYOND what you just gave them credit for. I really don't wanna spoil it for you, but the next video is going to contain EXTREME cases of complete reality manipulation. The tenno powers are about to get even crazier than MOST VETERANS in warframe realize... You're in for a real treat. Keep an eye out in 2020.

[@MurakumoVance]

@UCNhGeE91d9NcR_yD4b-G7TQ Its alright, I don't argue as long as its healthy debate, but there's a lot of information we CURRENTLY have access to either via gameplay, trailers, or lore that shows the Tenno are FAR more capable than that. They're outright immune to mind control (as shown with War Within questline) they can bend the laws of time (as shown with the Duvirir Paradox trailer) We can decimate Sentient gods of war (as demonstrated in the Second Dream) Even with just a FRACTION of our power, not fully knowing who we were or what we were capable of we broke Hunhow in half. And this is just the Tenno as children. They have yet to grow up and do battle with "The Man in the Wall." AKA Void Demons. The Duviri Paradox also showed the Tenno becoming adults which suggest they can now do supernatural combat since they're in another dimension manipulating time. But don't take my word for it, I cited all of my sources in this comment. I'm not a Warhammer 40k fan so idk if Space Marines have anything to combat enemies of Tenno magnitude, but I know 1 thing is for sure.... Goku & Super-Man won't be able to put down an experienced adult tenno much less "MY Tenno."

[@Mariuslorca]

Warframes are not simply super powered humans with guns, they arent even comparable to what warframes and thier operators can do as stated by the game's lore.

[@sliccthedestroyer1881]

I read some of the lore and man even the humans are op well the ones with psychic powers atleast but damm that universe is crazy

[@yokai1235]

funny the warhammer 40k Fandom put the tenno on the on the same level as unit called harlequin

[@X20Adam]

Bit if perspective: Most games measure damage per second/shot, or kill/death ratio. Warframe players measure KILLS PER SECOND lol.

[@miguelregil4517]

Can a Warframe survive the Flood?

[@MurakumoVance]

I would say so yes. The operator states in dialog that they are immune to the technocyte virus (which is the infested) but they'll still try to kill them. The infestation seems to have nearly the exact same capabilities as The Flood. Able to infect technology, able to mass Infested structures as big as capital ships... Even taking over an entire planet known as "The Cambrian Drift." So if a warframe fares very well against all that the infested have to throw at it. I think its a safe bet to assume they'd slaughter The Flood just the same!

[@arcadeinvader8086]

@@MurakumoVance The flood is way more intelligent than the infested

[@MurakumoVance]

@@arcadeinvader8086 intelligence can't overcome the raw planet busting power of the warframes. I say again, they are immune to infestation outbreaks, so their intellect is a mute point. 100% of the things thrown at the warframes has failed. We killed a sentient god of war in our most vulnerable state. Do I believe that the flood have anymore chance against the tenno than the sentients? Hell no.. In fact I'm sure the sentients could wreck the flood too!

[@soniaserval8655]

I would have to say. Nothing can survive the flood since it cannot be killed conventionally. And as well, Warframes need some sort of atmosphere to live. The flood can spread through air, and the spores could then quite possibly take over a Warframe. Even if not. All it takes is one mistake and then they could be controlled by an infection form, since the infection form takes things that have a central nervous system. Even then, there's the logic plague. Which could easily destroy everything that a cephalon has access to, anything a computer system has access to, etc. Even a Warframe needs a ship and coms.

[@Everydayartist12]

@@soniaserval8655 no they dont archwing missions literally have your warframe fly around in space with a jet pack. Warframees dont need atmosphere now the operator who controls then does. So theyd have to get them that way

[@OPTIMUMELITE]

How string are the Warframes. At the least I'd probably say string enough to pick you up by your neck and break it. Also weaker frames are probably capable of impaling you with their bear hands literally turning you into a pile of meat I'd assume based on how powerful the Finishers and hits can be. Strongest Warframes. Well you just DISENTIGRATE!

[@JKgyaru6969]

All warframe in general have super strength.

[@Yeard-bg6gh]

Who can beat Nidus tho?

[@localoxalem7767]

Level 40 corpus/grineer

[@neitherlink6612]

Yeard 1980 lore wise, who can beat Nova? She could blow up an entire planet if she wanted to.... while wearing leg warmers.

[@detonater7441]

neitherlink guardians

[@kierancc9095]

Nah wisp has portals to the sun and other dimensions how can you beat her?

[@danielendless]

@@neitherlink6612 She controls ANTI MATTER, the planet is the nothing 😬

[@-Xever-]

Woah slow down gauss

[@Rhino-Prime]

No he should speed up and hit me full force

[@klmtiptoptiptop474]

For the fact of Warframes are stronger than the ennemis of Halo You have to think of what is in the lore and game mechanics when you go out with tout operator if you an active power you will take damage even if they are reduce and you are invulnerable when not activated You use the grineer Armor as exemple and for the most of the game i m agree but using the Armor of the grineer during endless mission or above lvl70 is not good because some weapon are fire rocket or anti vehicule and they doesn't die For the kuva guard it s firstly give a reason to use the operator form to disearme ans destroy massive sentient It s more logical to think kuva guard are far better than the majority of the grineer troops but they are juste using a spécial weapon and they are just taller than the other (cause of cybernetics améliorations ) and have a better Armor For the kuva lich de are agree they are much stronger than other grineer even kuva guard (able to kill tenno ans ne a treath for many alien in Halo/human) cause of the cybernetics the power of the Warframes and the Kuva and they are dangerous cause of Warframes powers but the fact of there are not able to die with out the good combinaison is due to game mechanics for grillding And thé only reason they survive against us is due to kuva but they will be dangerous in Halo univers For the corpus i m ok it s just for the orbis With profite taker it s an hybride technologies sentient corpus and give the adaptability of the sentient and Shield technologie of the corpus So for the orbis it 's a bit special Ah and two things for the grineer most of the weaponry are similar of actual World (fireweapon and metallic armor) the unsc or convenante can pass out there Armor (maybe our technologies ) And second thing Mastery Rank do not represent the skill of thé gamer or is fire power just the how they past Time at building weapon/Warframes and reach level 30 That all i Hope you will answer and happy New year

[@jamespaguip5913]

Forunners can easily destroy warframe

[@klmtiptoptiptop474]

@@jamespaguip5913 yeah vert plausible

[@jamespaguip5913]

@@klmtiptoptiptop474 forunners are a galactic scale feat also they can destroy entire solar systems turn stars into black holes and they have advance ai forunners build ships the size of planets that can destroy solar systems also orokin doesn't have galactic scale weapons forunners can create life and destroy life forunner constructs can destroy life entire galaxy.

[@klmtiptoptiptop474]

@@jamespaguip5913 the orokin are advance as the forerunner they don't have Interstellar Travel and weapon to wipe out the galaxy but very powerfull in there own fied each. You know i don't like the comparaison for this vidéo those are not good

[@salondubois4303]

@@jamespaguip5913 war frames are universal scale

[@gangarthethief]

4 tenno squad vs 4 squad of spartans is just unfair because the warframes with achron sherd, buffs and incarnon, acranes and super high quality modifications, powers that makes them literally a living walking mass destruction just one glance of the Warframe well just make the spartans collapse before they even see them lol they wont even see it coming i love halo as well but sorry warframes versus Spartans is just a unfair advantage

[@Alexus00712]

This was released over four years ago.. This was pre new war, pre duviri, Zariman.. Hell, even pre Deimos.. We still had the pre deadlock protocol corpus ships back then.. Kuva weapons had Just entered the scene, with Gauss and Grendel being the two most recent Warframes.. This was back when railjack mods were still called Avionics and were 🔶 shaped.. Where you had 15 Avionics slots on the same screen with three for battle and three for tactical.. All using up Avionics capacity.. When there was a separate endo variant for RJ mods called Dirac that was gained through scrapping or completing railjack missions.. When there were new and separate railjack names for elements.. Back when there was only three proxima regions.. The Warframe of 2020 is not the Warframe of 2024.. Lmao

[@Alexus00712]

But even back then we were insanely strong.. Oh yeah, this was also before The Steel Path, primary and secondary arcanes, and galvanised mods.. xD

[@KeonHall]

3:40 Ish starts the video

[@ericjuarez8922]

Cool video

[@reapordeath]

So, to compare the corpus to the covenant is highly incorrect. Their hierarchy both might have religious undertones, but even the most dangerous corpus Mook is about as dangerous as the grunts from halo are. Proof? The corpus never fight their own battles, they are traditional merchants, even most of their weapons are designed for mining or fixing stuff, and is just kind of effective as a weapon. It's comparable to the nail gun, it's purpose is for building but it's kind of effective at killing someone too. Anyway, the elites. Canonically in halo, elites had no real issue in killing Spartans. And Spartans are heavily armored AND shielded. Like if a corpus dude was wearing grineer armor with a shield. So no, I have no doubts that a single elite would absolutely demolish a number of corpus grunts. They are slow, not even really decently armed, nor armored. Even the robotics that the corpus employ aren't even really combat oriented for the most part. That said, elites also have different shield strengths based on their class. Elite zealots for instance have really strong shields and are really aggressive. They will absolutely chew up the corpus minions. *reminder that Emille who was armored and shielded got lifted like a doll out of the cockpit of a tank by an elite single handedly*

[@soniaserval8655]

I wanted to also point out that the Covenant isn't using plasma as much as it's using star-essence. Since correct me if I'm wrong but I distinctly remember that the Covenant harvest their plasma from forming stars.

[@reapordeath]

@@soniaserval8655 not that the source of the plasma is relevant, since plasma is just a state of matter. In the sense that we are using it, plasma is hot, even "cold" plasma (which we humans use in some degree) still runs hot enough to burn the crap out of your skin. The kind of plasma science fiction uses, like the Covenant and Corpus (some of the Corpus use plasma-based weaponry) The difference wouldn't matter since it's still the same kind of matter, and it's still incredibly incredibly hot. Edit: logically speaking, plasma is simply just plasma. But given the technology is beyond our current understanding of it, it's probable that the Corpus or the Covenant could somehow have "hotter" plasma with their weapons, but after a few thousand Kelvin the difference between a few more or a few less Kelvin isn't going to matter a whole lot.

[@soniaserval8655]

@@reapordeath Ok makes sense.

[@salondubois4303]

This all goes to shit when you realize the corpus is slow way stronger in lore lol one swing from a corpus grunt and it’s over not to mention the robots that they have

[@AnthanKrufix]

While I agree with the overall result, I'm not a fan of including inexplicable game mechanic stuff in lore discussion. Especially if it's taken to far more extreme levels than what actually happens. Stuff like the Kuva Lich becoming immune to a stab in the gut is fine and all, or immune to fire, or immune to electricity, etc... but immune to blowing up the planet is a stretch.

[@MurakumoVance]

That's just high balling a speculation. Its basically implying that we don't know the upward capabilities of Kuva Liches in lore. Sadly they're never confronting worthy adversaries... They're always confronting Warframes which are VASTLY over-powered. Take for example a judgement of Krillin (post tournament of power) from Dragonball Super. While he is undoubtedly the strongest human of all time in the series, the power gap between him and main characters like Vegeta, Goku, Gohan and Trunks are entire zip codes apart. that doesn't mean that Krillin is weak though. He resisted a full power Kahmehameha from an SSGSS Goku fresh. He was not able to tank it completely, but that at least shows that he's on par with the previous tournament shown in the Super series. He could no doubt stomp Kaba, and Frost. He may even be able to hang in there with Hit before inevitably succumbing.... And if I'm going to analyze your critique and do some debunking of the debunking... If your super power was "ultra adaptation into immunity." Wouldn't it be fair to say that if I dropped an atom bomb on your ass, whenever you die and resurrect, you'd then be impervious to zar-bamba tier atomic blasts and the radiation discharges that come from them? So theoretically, its not that large of a stretch. I'm just applying the same logic from Super-Man's "Doomsday" into the Kuva Liches. Last thing I want to point out is that Digital Extremes have said that there's storyline purposes for many of the in game mechanics. I don't always agree with those sentiments. Such as that in the case of Alad V being able to be revived an infinite amount of times if you don't kill his companion before it revives him, BUT there are some instances where the game mechanics make sense from a lore perspective, therefore I'd never showcase features I didn't believe were lore accurate. That being said, I quit this game a year ago and no longer have very good opinions for it, so its merely a thought exercise for people who under-estimate the Warframes from a story standpoint. Hope you enjoyed regardless. CHEERS!

[@jakebatty530]

Depends if you only go by gameplay, as in lore, the warframes are far more powerful, such as atlas destroying a large asteroid with a punch That kind of damage out out would decimate nearly all enemies we face in game But if we literally had one ounch man in Warframe it wouldnt be good gameplay I can't see weaponry being the same when comparing warframe guns to halo imo especially when mods are considered

[@TheEXGamemaster]

Would you ever do a Warframe vs Destiny video? Like Tenno vs Guardians

[@MurakumoVance]

I quit Warframe some time ago. After all of the poor decisions the devs have made, I'll likely never return. So the short and simple answer is no. It's not in the cards. I've moved onto writing my own lore. There are two novels I'm getting set to publish here soon.

[@ZzzarieL]

​@@MurakumoVancei thought u were talking about destiny 2 for a sec there lol

[@AnxiousCinder]

Aight so the warframe verse is connected to two cosmologies buddahnism, and Christianity But the rift is basically the cosmolgy and limbo controlled it

[@xteel1013]

... Guardians are even more OP they make Warframes look like a joke🤷🏾‍♂️...

[@thrilltasticboy2733]

You wish 😂😭

[@lazyvoid7107]

​@@thrilltasticboy2733 You wish you making my day right now

[@xteel1013]

​@@thrilltasticboy2733...You are right I was wrong 😐the Tenno are more powerful than I initially realized...

[@patrickempson7366]

Our weapons are so much more powerful… but really cool debate

[@jamespaguip5913]

You forgot to mention dax soldiers.

[@jakebatty530]

Ypu say ot takes 2 squads of frames to take out a orb boss bit thats not true, both gameplay and lore I can destroy the pylons for the profit taker and kill it myself And in lore, frames like atlas destroy an asteroid that could wipe out a planet with 1 punch, and im fairly certain if atlas can obliterate an asteroid, he can obliterate an orb boss even with shields Also, when comparing weapons, you also having to bear in mind advancement in technology and material science, while the braton etc are your typcial fodder/basic weapons, the type of gun powder etc they use will be far better and so will the materials and design of bullets, warframe if thousands of years in the future

[@MurakumoVance]

You made a lot of valid points here. Some of which are correct, so I won't address them. I will simply only address the one that's incorrect. It DOES in fact take TWO squads to take down the Orb boss battle. They literally made a cartoon animation that I showcased in the video itself to illustrate that. If you pay attention the to the dialogue spoken in game, there is an off site ORBITAL shield relay, and it takes a squad of Warframes to knock out those shield generators so that the Orb will be vulnerable. Otherwise no form of attack actually damages the Orb. And even when the shields are down, it's still a tough opponent. Atlas being able to 1 shot an asteroid is of no relevance to your point.

[@jakebatty530]

@@MurakumoVance if the grineer can kill a profit taker with a ship then atlas absolutely can, the shield a profit taker has doesn't make it immune to absolutely anything otherwise you could throw it in the sun and it would survive

[@SpartanOli]

I love Halo. And I breathe spartan because they are my favorite sci-fi soldiers. But agaisnt Warframes? Yeah they are getting destroyed. But as seen in another comment, it depends on the Warframe because some frames doesn't have any offensive ability so it comes down to the weapons, which could go both ways

[@possiblymisha]

Im going to be honest, the master chief would struggle to oppose just about all the Warframes from a weapons and skill perspective. Safe for just being incredibly slower. Also the whole MR 8 can't beat a nightwatch content was borderline retarded. I think we've all played the dumb alerts with nightwatch grineer. They get slaughtered just like the rest. If you're going to claim you're referring to the in-universe lore, id like to remind you that, in universe, Warframes were used to destroy an empire that woukd effortlessly subjucate a UNSC system. There are warfranes used to punch extinction event causing asteroids out of existence, Waframes that can trap you outside of time, warframes that have to be killed several times over, and Warframes than can literally wield anti-matter. Most of those frames can be attained before MR 8. Hell, when i moved to Xbox, I beat the New War at MR 8. And went about my business unlocking SP and Arbs. Remind me what in Chief's kit compares to the Nataruuk? The same bow that obliterated sentients... as though they were mere decorations...

[@tellmeninetails5819]

You left out the bosses.

[@stubbornspaceman7201]

Actually those red energy sword wielding elites were part of the silent shadow they were the best of the best when it came to stealth ops and assassinations. So they shouldn’t be compared to the average spec ops elite.

[@limboprime4008]

Still i doubt they can go against a warframe or a nightwatch or even a lich (soon the sisters of parvos the corpus version to kuva liches)

[@stubbornspaceman7201]

@@limboprime4008 Agreed, they’re good, but warframes and the enemies they face are on a another level.

[@limboprime4008]

@@stubbornspaceman7201 the reason they won't manage to kill warframes after they have strike once is they lack the same powers as warframes If they go against limbo number 1 they won't be able to touch him because of his rift, and after they alerted him he will put them in the rift and kill em whit stopping time Octavias music makes enemy's go crazy and attack the roller as well as her going invisible (they won't be able to get close to her) Saryn whit her diese spreading would not only show there location, but kill em And there are frames that cheat death, like revenant when he activates his second ability, they won't be able to damage him (he can get nuked and it won't scratch him), rhinos iron skin would would stand there stealth attack, wukong can cheat death 3 times before you can kill him, hildryn has a shit ton of shields for them to kill her, inaros can probably tank it, sevagoth will go in his shadow form Now they can kill some frames in an extreme stealth like loki, ash, lavos or other frames that have no stealth or AOE dps ability But then comes the nechramech this have to deal whit If the tenno can't located and kill em whit the warframe or the weapons he is using at the moment, then they will summon the nechramech, that this guys can't just go behind it and stab it (its an immortal machine made to come back from the death after all) And if this tenno has summoned voidrig specifically well there are no chances they are surviving, specially when the tenno would use the cannons from him They may manage to take down a few frames, but there are others that would do a quick work from them The liches would just come back unless they use the parazon and the right order of requem mods And fornnightwatch well they would probably suffer high casualties, but would probably kill em, if there is one thing about the grinier is that they never give up

[@stubbornspaceman7201]

@@limboprime4008 true

[@jamespaguip5913]

The banished from halo wars 2 would be a power threat against the corpus and grineer.

[@grimm_lord]

I’m interested in joining your alliance. Rank 7 shadow clan.

[@thorshammer7883]

How about the Forerunners vs Warframes?

[@MurakumoVance]

That would be a very good fight! I know the forerunners to some degree had a bit of control over neurophysics. So if anyone could figure out a winning recipe against the Tenno, it would be them!

[@thorshammer7883]

@@MurakumoVance They also had their own combat skins that are pretty physically strong. Forerunner metal is quite durable. Though I am curious about your current views of the strength of the Techno. Last time you seemed to think they were universal to nigh omnipotent.

[@MurakumoVance]

@@thorshammer7883 Well... As you may or may not know... I quit Warframe shortly after the Railjack update that allowed us to have npc crew onboard. I had many reasons to leave, but that's a different topic for a different time. The biggest take away from my departure is the fact that my "current" knowledge of the Tenno's abilities are limited to what I know about them before my departure. That being said, I know that they are NEAR omnipotent. I know that they are multi-dimensional. I know that they have galaxy busting weaponry, and I also know that they're incredibly resilient to damage as they have several ways of outright negating physical harm, or the innate ability to recover very very rapidly from it. If I had to hazard the guess on which side would prevail, I'd have to take a look at a common foe that they have faced and scale them to that foe. For the Tenno, it's the Infestation. For the Forerunners, it's the Flood. Now we could sit here and debate which is more powerful, the Flood or the Infestation, but truthfully I don't think that debate would go anywhere because I strongly feel like the Infestation is equal to the Flood minus the vast amount of intellect. Since we both know that The Forerunners ultimately succumbed to The Flood by building Halo rings which destroyed all life in the galaxy, yet The Tenno are still EASILY surviving the Infestation, and are outright immune to it's effects as stated in dialogue, I believe the Tenno would likely win, albeit the fact that it would be a difficult hard fought battle. Now I know what some might say. The Forerunners underestimated The Flood and didn't react quick enough, otherwise they could've contained them. That's still a very mute point because The Forerunners were never immune to Flood attacks like Tenno are. I'm confident that in no matter what phase of evolution the Flood are at, the Tenno could wipe them out with relative ease. I mean... Even just a singular warframe would be GREATLY effective against The Flood. Ember Prime... Prime example. Pun intended.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@MurakumoVance Uh... near omnipotent would not make much sense. Especially with how you painted them as if they are outerversal gods like what the heck? And what ways does one mean they are multi dimensional in powerscaling sense and how does that translate to power? And what are those galaxy busting weapons and what is said and consistent about them?

[@thorshammer7883]

@@MurakumoVance Another thing too... numbers. How many Tenno are there? Because the Forerunners are a entire galactic sized empire with over three million worlds and a huge powerful navy. They have built alot of super structures which can warp dimensions. Like have an interior shield world bigger on the inside then the outside.

[@juggjuggernaut3345]

Well Ultras are the tankiest elites they take more shots....

[@limboprime4008]

Can you tell me how many exactly?

[@juggjuggernaut3345]

@@limboprime4008 this is a year old comment I don't remember and don't play this game anymore so it's probably not accurate anymore

[@jtta7919]

Kuva guardians an issue? God no. i tanky nidus.

[@wynnnnnnn5227]

gotta love that conditional immortality

[@demonkingx2821]

Are you on PlayStation or Xbox?

[@jamespaguip5913]

Elites or the covanant would beat the corpus, in lore elites are masters of melee and they as strong as spartans its just that spartans have better reflexes elites have better agility and strength they also have different ranks elite zealots are also very strong they can take down corpus also elites are bery skilled dont forget covanant has a large arsenal of vehicles including locusts.

[@jamespaguip5913]

Bruh this is the bad comparison because their not the same also destiny and warframe compare because both of them have immortal beings that have space magic.

[@jamespaguip5913]

Why dont you just compare destiny and warframe why halo, halo is much more different than warframe plus halo doesn't have space magic.

[@roxkstarluv7373]

I play on ps4 could I join ?

[@MurakumoVance]

I quit Warframe last year; kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIvXfJ2IbZJkfLc

[@pathsafer7828]

the mastery dont matter i am mastery and i can defeat a squad of kuwa guardians whit wukong prime, but the rang of the weapons and the warframe is the think that matters and also remenber that the warframe also are immortal like the kuva lich

[@limboprime4008]

Other than few who can cheat death most aren't immortal and we have seen in cutscenes and lore that warframes can die Like even immortal frames like inaros can get destroyed, compare to the liches the requre the right requiem mod config

[@YokaK80]

I do think some warframes could beat superman or Goku, those being Limbo, Grendel and Wukong.

[@xteel1013]

...I sincerely doubt that 😂🤣a paracausal guardian maybe but Warframes are too weak to take on superman or Goku...

[@YokaK80]

@@xteel1013 nah fam, Grendel is basically a living black hole, Limbo can become invincible and can stop time, and Wukong is literally immortal

[@xteel1013]

@@YokaK80 they don't stand a chance against superman and goku stop being a fanboy....you have no idea what superman and goku are capable of they are easily universal to multiversal level threats with the attack potency to match...a more interesting match up would be the guardians in destiny due to their paracauslity making them extremely powerful and formidable against universal to multiversal level threats like Oryx.....nothing in Warframe comes close to universal or multiversal level power or threat level stop the 🧢 cap....😂🤣

[@xteel1013]

@@YokaK80 even guardians manage to bypass enemy invincibility with the paracauslity of the light and superman and goku have been able to bypass invincibility with sheer power and attack potency the Warframes are parlor tricks nothing these characters haven't dealt with before🤣😂....

[@YokaK80]

@@xteel1013 damn I need to catch up on that lore ig

[@urmomaho1110]

Bruh wdym I’m a mr7 and I have a build on the broken war that after 9x blood rush hits almost constant red crits

[@jamesspuzzillo1217]

Exalbuir Umbra could

[@possiblymisha]

Are you just bad at Warframe? Kuva Guardians are not a challenge at MR 14-18. You're lowkey insane 😂

[@MurakumoVance]

Oh no! Not another pointless internet flex! Wow! Whatever will I do? -_- If you want to take the word "challenge" literally, then be my guest. Universally across the board, it requires more effort from everyone objectively to kill a Kuva Guardian. They aren't just slapped like fodder. Therefore I'm trying to describe it for people who would not otherwise know any differently. Clearly this video was not designed for the likes of you. You with your advanced intellect and MLG sweat skill. Hence why I compare Halo cannon to Warframe, so casuals have a very slight hope of understanding. This video was also very old, and it's design was to build intrigue for newer players. All of this was done before I quit. Before I lost my passion for the franchise.

[@possiblymisha]

@MurakumoVance I play the game at a casual level, so your mockery doesn't really work. Most of the people I play with made less progress in the game and never complained about Kuva Guardians being a trouble. They're people who played the quests and stopped there. They dashed through them and blasted them, and then they moved on. Aside from that, you claim an MR 8 player would fall to Chief. In lore, Gauss can move at the speed of sound, and Volt is (in lore) supposed to be faster. Volt is available far earlier than MR 8. Chief is getting blitzed. If you're going to put videos on the Internet, prepare to deal with the criticism instead of crying about it like this. Your lost passion and love for the franchise are irrelevant. If this is something old you'd like to forget, then don't reply. Forget it. Private the video. Delete it. But don't deflect from it 💀 To say It requires "more effort" is disingenuous considering you hit 5, dash, hit 5 again, and return to mindlessly slaughtering enemies. The additional effort is so insignificant that it's forgettable.

[@MurakumoVance]

@@possiblymisha Boy if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black. You tell me to be open to criticism while at the same time having an issue with my "mockery." Remind me again.... Who are YOU to give ME advice? In case you haven't looked at the rest of my page. I've been doing this for a very VERY long time. I actually love criticism. Therefore, I'm not going to outright reject what you're saying. That being said.... How many mastery 8 players have access to Gauss or even want it? The trouble with making a video like this is it has to be simplified for others to understand, but there's always going to be somebody who will push up their glasses with their buck teeth exposed and say; "Well actually." Congratulations. You are that person here. I'm aware of everything you're saying, and yes it is the exception, but that's also rhetorical and therefore not worth further discussing. I think you set your sights on me personally. And truthfully, that's YOUR PROBLEM. Do not flatter yourself. I do not have an issue with you or anything you said, because I don't even know who you are. I'm responding because I WANT TO. Sometimes I just enjoy the debate/argument. Furthermore, if you're of such a credible position of knowledge & advice, why don't I see videos on YOUR KZbin channel? Hmm... Quite possibly because you rather not deal with the relentless barrage of ignorant comments on a daily basis, or something deeper than that. Like you can't be bothered to conduct yourself in a progressive and efficient way throughout an explanation? I'm going to quail your quarrels with this statement. "I never said my videos were perfect. You are one of the only ones coming to my page expecting perfection. If you have something so terribly wrong with you that you have to passionately fault my content without proper justification, then your words may as well fall upon deaf ears. Should you ever develop the balls to become a content creator yourself, you will see the pattern of frequent critiques who have zero credibility attempting to condescend to you. And while I do always say that a contrasting opinion is a healthy one to hear, I will also add that there is still a human being on the other side of that screen who is receiving your message. It costs you NOTHING to refrain from being a dickhead for the lolz. Do unto others what you want done unto yourself. And at last, if you have an issue with me; "Why are you here?" If you don't have an issue with me then; "Why are you on the attack?" You don't have to answer. I'm not NEARLY as bothered as this response makes it seem. I'm simply engaging because I'm in between difficult tasks, and this for me is a decent intermission. I instructed you not to feel flattered earlier in this comment, but in truth, you are somewhat special. Because of AAAAALL the comments I've recently received, I chose THIS ONE to be facetious with.

[@possiblymisha]

@MurakumoVance you defeated your own argument many new players have and can attain Volt (canonically faster than gauss) instantly or before MR 8. That aside, you were not targeted personally because I do not know your channel well nor care much about it. I simply commented here because I like and understand Warframe. And yes, you clearly need the advice if you're writing silly essays like that. But also, I'm just someone who's always received and dealt with criticism. It's not hard to ignore none constructive comments, and it's often easy to understand and work with constructive critiques. That aside, I've made content before for fun. I don't care what people say about my videos because I don't make them for anyone but myself. I released music on several platforms, and I made a separate channel to upload random talks. Secondly, you're mocking me as flexing. Killing kuva Guardians isn't a flex. You're just objectively bad if you struggle with them... at MR 18+. 9 times out of 10, Warframe is a brain-dead game you beat by mashing the win button. Now, why comment if I don't take an issue with you personally? Because it's the Internet, and I can share my thoughts on any public thing with a comment section. But also... you misrepresent the capabilities of Chief and the Warframes without much evidence for your claims (like the idea that they could beat MR 8 players or the idea that MR 18s struggle with Kuva Guardians). But anyways, since pretending I've never put anything out there gives you comfort... you can find my low tier music under "Misha Does Stuff Topic," chats are under "Actually Misha." You can even find trash teenage art on b3stg1rlm1sh4 on Instagram. Go mock it to your hearts content. Anyways, I got sleep to enjoy. When you're done having your "I'm an Internet influencer" ego trip, write a more to-the-point reply. I'll get to it sooner or later.

[@MurakumoVance]

@@possiblymisha Oh no! No no no! By no means am I an "Internet Influencer." You have no idea the level of hatred I have for that culture, and TikTok and the like. So let's not jump to false pretenses. My comments to you were intended to be witty cheap humor. I don't reject what you're saying, but I am very critical of it because I doubt the credibility. The comparisons I've made in the video are accurate, but it's not a linear progressive topic. It's modular. So if you change the circumstances slightly then yes, everything you say holds weight too! I think we can both agree that at mastery 8 is HIGHLY unlikely for any Volt player to have maxed out all the mods it would take in order to out-pace a Gauss. Nevermind the fact that a full speed build is not meta. So even if the mods needed were present and accounted for, not a lot of people would be utilizing them since it's not practical in a real combat scenario. But even if it was, Mastercheif still has tools to deal with that. The climax of Halo 4's campaign is a great demonstration of what could counter speed blitzing. So my notions withstand your objections. But to say that I'm insane, or imply that I'm objectively lacking if I struggle with Kuva Guardians (which I don't.) is pretty asinine. Clicking 2 buttons as opposed to clicking one IS ACTUALLY, OBJECTIVELY more effort than standard 1 button to win. The same can be said about 3, and 4, and so on. You've taken everything I've said in the video FAR TOO literally. I'll say things in a broad generalized fashion in an effort to help people understand. See that's the difference between you and I. You make your own content for you. This video specifically was made for others. So I would purposely saturate my own experiences in order to give someone a glimpse of what it's like, or what to expect. It was always a given that their experiences wouldn't exactly hit the mark, but close to it. From a gamplay or lore perspective. Again, that's from my personal progression. The game itself is ever changing because the devs relentlessly alter things on a whim. So maybe Kuva Guardians are just easier than they were previously. (I wouldn't know. I've long since quit that game, and care no more for it.) It's not a debate worth having for me... I have nothing to prove to you either. In my days with Warframe, absolutely NOTHING challenged me. That's one of the reasons why I'm so indifferent now. Because I feel like a god just casually flicking multiversal threats out of my way. There is no sense of accomplishment for me to gain anymore. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevant. Again. I don't have to prove myself or my worth to you. I'm unbothered. You claim I negate my own arguments. Well that's your opinion. I have no obligation to your limited view of me or the things I preach. It's false, I know it is, and it's as simple as that. You see my points as contradictory... Is that a failure to comprehend on your part, or a failure to communicate on my part? Who knows? Who cares? If I were a bit more invested in the discussion I might clarify to clear up the confusion. But I really don't think you're interested in that, so neither am I. Do you even want a reason as to why I write essays? If so, here it is; #1 it's a disorder. I have type 1 Autism, and therefore there's a lot of mental traffic in my mind. I take an otherwise flaw, and turn it into a strength. So I jot my thoughts down and express them. I suffer through a lot of trauma that people inflict upon me because they're too stupid, and too lazy to read what I have to say. Giving credit where credit is due here, at least you read it. And that's why I'm still engaging with you. I won't give up on people if I feel as though we're progressing toward something. But I can't help but wonder what the resolution will be, what your intentions are, and if it's worth getting to that point. #2 it's also because I am a writer. I delve into detail because context is king. I also aspire to inspire before I expire. Even if it seems as though I am pretentious, if as little as ONE person can be affected in a positive way by what I've said, then I have succeeded. I want people to love fiction as much as I do. Yet another reason why I still engage with you here despite it likely not being worth my time. If you want to shamelessly plug your own content, then you might as well find me on a different platform other than KZbin, and opt to give me those links via DMs. Respectfully though........ I don't need your advice. At least not on that topic specifically. I have a large tenure on this platform and a lot of introspective. More than most. So I'm very well satisfied with how I interact with others. Of course there's always room for improvement, but I'm handling things now 100x better than I did 10 years ago, and in another 10 years time, I'm sure I'll handle things another 100x better. I've been on KZbin doing this for a very long time. If you want to see for yourself, my channel is there. That's my portfolio (among other things such as DeviantArt) If not, then it's like I said. I don't require your validation because the lion does not apologize for the killing of the gazelle. I am working on far greater ambition projects. So if you are opting to provide constructive criticism, then you'll follow me to those future endeavors. And if not, then you'll fade into obscurity like so many before you. People are very superficial. So I do not even look at them as individuals. It's quality over quantity for me. Ultimately, you'll prove your worth to me, as I will prove mine to you if you stick around. As it was said Biblically... "This too shall pass." Is this sufficient closure, or is there more yet to be said? Regardless, my time in the comment section is fleeting. If you wish to continue, I'm easy to find, but I will not remain here. Best of luck!

[@bellomori9944]

Can my clan of 1 join?

[@MurakumoVance]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIvXfJ2IbZJkfLc

[@bellomori9944]

@@MurakumoVance oh dam I'm sorry to ask after not seeing that

[@bloodboss4139]

They can’t beat space Marines and Warhammer

[@step1saysomethingcontrover320]

Jugram victim 🥱