Warframe | What We Learned About 1999 Is ...

[@thebatman7347]

Is anyone noticing that the tenno, our tenno are taking a background sit here? The stalker, arthur and the protoframes... something is being cooked and will blow up in our face (the tenno)

[@PenOfEvil]

Indeed and I can't wait

[@dustinvaladez9868]

It's gotta be a build up to the big face off with Wally. Then we'll probably break the universe in the process lol

[@zoron8952]

@@dustinvaladez9868 apparently it's currently in "the void war" arc

[@gustavonomegrande]

Time travel guide for tennos: 1-Make sure that there's a warframe in the desired time stretch. 2-Transference. 3-For Profit.

[@PenOfEvil]

@@gustavonomegrande FOR PROFIT!

[@-8enthusiast41]

Do you think Major Neci Rusalka would be a proto frame? Wouldn't be surprised if she took the place of Saryn

[@-8enthusiast41]

Also what romance option are you going for?

[@PenOfEvil]

@@-8enthusiast41 I actually didn't think of that but I don't think she could be a protoframe using effervo as I'm pretty sure it kills the technocyte virus. As for romance Aoi all the way. What about you?

[@-8enthusiast41]

@@PenOfEvil Nyx (Can't remember her name) or Aoi for me

[@_pyza_]

Dunno why but somewhat doubt it Not saying I don't agree but I'd more feel she's like parvos or other npcs Speaking to us nothing more Maybe o boss fight with her

[@Elchocolatepansy]

@@-8enthusiast41definitely Nyx, she my type even tho she a mind reading potato at the moment

[@_pyza_]

Well warframes are designed to be void attuned or something like that So saying that the infestation has a deep connection to the void is not far fetched And as we know The Strands of Khra are nothing more than the void manifesting a timeline So maybe the infestation has some way to ignore the laws of time And traverse the timeline or timelines as it seems fit Also we see that the infestation stadium from 1999 is in the present In other words I cannot wait for more lore :-)

[@PenOfEvil]

Honestly that theory was a shot in the dark, but the more I looked into it the more it made sense. I think the helminth may just be creating Warframes but if I am correct, the infested are way stronger than we thought.

[@yokai1235]

Warframe time travel doesn't work like that you can only create different timelines inside the void the conventional reality timeline stays the same no matter what and will correct itself by overwriting part of the new timeline over the existing one that is why the drifter and the operator cant be fiscally present at the same time but can change position at any moment

[@ΤζώρτζηςΠαρασκευόπουλος]

As far as I understand, the timeline and reality is one, and everything just coexist. Through the void, we can redder a new timeline, but this is still in the same reality. The palimsest of spacetime events can be rewritten traces of the original still persists. As we saw the stadium in our time, it's a rewrite, but our reality is the same. My personal opinion is that the warframe universe is just a soup of possibilities coexisting, not exactly multiverse stuff. Its all as one.

[@PenOfEvil]

Parts of what you say is true, through the concept of eternalism that we learned in the new war. I wanted to break it down in this video in a much more digestible way though. Eternalism is a complex concept in itself, so when explaining all time exists all at once it gets way too confusing.

[@Wandering_Joe]

The Helminth strain carried by Albrecht is improved, not perfected. the protoframes are living on borrowed time. They will go from protoframes to Full warframes at any point when we will come across them. that might change through story but right now, they talk about possibly having to deal with each other if one of them "turns" and loses their humanity much like original warframes did.

[@PenOfEvil]

@@Wandering_Joe Yes I agree if that is true but you have to admit it was the original intention of ballas for Warframes to be that, hence why I call it perfected.

[@Wandering_Joe]

@@PenOfEvil It cant be perfected if the original intention of entrati was for them to *keep* thier humanity. he laments in his notes that should they lose control, he can do nothing more than tell them that that was the deal they made together. it is not consolation of intended outcome but acceptance of unwanted effect.

[@PenOfEvil]

@@Wandering_Joe I mean sure with what entrati was aiming for it isn't perfected but ballas would have loved it lol.

[@Ryuzaki280]

The protoframes are going to be the vessels

[@The-No-one]

​@@Ryuzaki280Vessels for the drifter to use according to Loid

[@Joezone619]

5:50 where did it state it was the indifference that controlled arthur's hand? I thought it was albrecht himself, trying to get arthur to meet him for testing his new helminth strain. We know arthur and albrecht are atleast on speaking terms from the whispers in the walls quest, he and arthur recorded a message and a blueprint of the gargoyle for us. The indifference doesn't have much reason to make someone else find albrecht, the indifference already knows.

[@PenOfEvil]

@@Joezone619 I didn't show it in the video which I should have but it's the exact same hand that pops up in duviri and on the zariman when the deal was made so I'd be shocked if it wasn't wally. Perhaps it could be Albrecht but only time will tell.

[@Joezone619]

@@PenOfEvil I see, well that is certainly possible but given how kalymos didn't immediately attack arthur, i'd say its more albrecht's doing then the indifference. take that, and add in the fact both albrecth and kalymos pointed arthur into a specific cave, with a specific infested organism, that created a specific warframe, and that arthur is the only one of the hex that was directly contacted. I'd say albrecht was using arthur to test if he's perfected the infested yet. After all, we do know from loid that "albrecht has used people in the past".

[@PenOfEvil]

@@Joezone619 that's an interesting take. I don't know if I would take what loid said in those moments as fact because he was in an emotional state. He felt abandoned even though Albrecht was trying to "protect" him and everyone else. I am open to the fact you may be right in stating that Albrecht could be behind the infested. I have a theory that he created a paradox by bringing the infestation back in time. Maybe Albrecht and wally are now one and the same.

[@zaviki7819]

​@@PenOfEvilThat's the lotus's hand though, it's probably something we are going to hear more about in The Lotus Eater update

[@gustavonomegrande]

About the time travel thing, due to eternalism, all of them exist and you can literally walk there, time travel doesn't split timelines, they're already split, the path is already there and you just go there, we just need to make sure that that timeline influence is not bad on ours, afterall, when you look into the abyss, it looks back.

[@dracko9809]

I think infested are like symbiontes hive from marvel like in venom movie and comiks they are already such a huge mass of hive minde that they can communicate with others of ther species, from across time and space or enable data transfer. Tey all dont need to be conected if they want or note.

[@PenOfEvil]

Venom is my favorite antihero in marvel and I am a massive marvel fan. So this analogy makes me very happy!!

[@dustinvaladez9868]

Anyone else realize that the baby is basically half angel (jade )and half demon (stalker)? Im excited to see what it becomes.

[@aldeonuwu2634]

But they are not angel or demon they are warframes

[@marenjones6665]

I'm pretty sure a key point of the Duviri Paradox/New War was to show that time lines aren't isolated from each other, at least as far as the Void/Wally are concerned.

[@Trihard_From_France]

who is wally?

[@marenjones6665]

@trihardfromfrance7063 It's a common nickname for the Man in the Wall, the Great Indifference, whatever you want to call him.

[@permeus2nd]

6:00 I don’t think it’s wally as that meeting spot leads Arthur to us the player character, mainly the drifter according to Rebecca on the devshort after tennocon, they use Excal but when we play it live it will be whatever frame your using at the time, after the clash of swords we take control of us and that’s how we interact with 1999. I don’t think the man in the wall would have directed the Hex to us arriving as he seems to be working with the infested for some reason and the Hex and by extension us are working against them both. Also they seem to Hate Albrecht thinking that he is responsible for the invention in the first place, others seem to think this means that Albrecht and the indifference look the same I think it’s possible that they are even sharing the same body?

[@PenOfEvil]

I got the interpretation that the Hex's relationship with Entrati is complicated to say the least. I don't know if it is that he saved them but inadvertently messed with something else much worse? That's my guess.

[@lordnul1708]

Warframe's time travel is indeed measy. Lua missions (especially Pavlov, the best place to see a limbo because of his immunity to environmental detectuon hazards that aren't cameras, with only one vault having camera drones and the rest using lasers) use Back to the Future time travel (or perhaps Crono Trigger). Anything related to the Drifter is based in Eternalism and Parallel Universe time travel, aside from Duviri which is a time loop. And we have no idea yet which version of time travel we're getting from Warframe 1999 just yet, but it is most certainly based in the Void.

[@PenOfEvil]

I agree, I'm just at the point in which I no longer want to theorize because from my perspective we can end up anywhere with no rhyme or reason. I need more info lol

[@KSJP01]

I love a good lore video. New sub😊

[@PenOfEvil]

Welcome aboard!

[@permeus2nd]

2:38 so based on some of the stuff both Elenor and Lettie (proto trinity) says I willing to guess that some of the others that got “”saved”” progressing into advanced technosite monsters, this could be what happened to on line as the band lead looks to have a similar head shape to Loki? Maybe this is where the other prototype like Rhino, Loki and Ember ended up, maybe Albrecht didn’t get to them soon enough so instead of saving them and turning them into protoframes they took the Loki strand and when full mutation into the infested Liches?

[@The-No-one]

I doubt the infested are creating warframes since Arthur calls the Excalibur a devil which could insinuate the Tenno since they're called that all the time. Plus the Excalibur was obviously curious instead of instantly attacking like the Mesa on the Eris junction does. The drifter not attacking instantly in a situation with a unknown person is completely in character so that helminth throwing up the Excalibur could just be us arriving in our warframe which I assume is going to be forced into Excalibur Umbra since players would have Umbra at that point (obviously)

[@akumaofthereddeath]

All I can say is I want albrict’s trenchcoat for my drifter

[@gustavonomegrande]

My prediction on the framebaby: The baby will grow and mature fast, we will get a quest playing as him and will get a diagram for a copy afterwards.

[@testdep]

10:22 'Albrecht was Kalymos the whole time' 😨 Yes! I knew it! PS. Loove how comprehensive and coherent your vids are because I'm one of those ppl who play the game but don't understand what's going on.

[@PenOfEvil]

@@testdep We all were at one point in time to be honest lol. Thank you for watching!

[@robinchwan]

multiversal time travel don't have any of the paradoxes what so ever! which might be why entrati actually decided that it's safe to atleast try and hide from the man in the wall in the past.

[@PenOfEvil]

Correct but at the same time we have no idea how exactly the timeline works in Warframe cause it was never explained.

[@dwaynebrice1697]

So i genuinely think what happened is this. Entrati meets the man in the wall in our timeline that we play the game in the timeline we get saved from rhe zarmin. He runs, but i dont think he ended up where he thought. I think he ended up in the dimension where we were not saved. Our tenno is still locked on the zariman. I believe that when he tried to use the void again for what he believed was time travel it was dimension hopping, and he was destroying and creating new dimensions not timelines. Kind of like how the man in the wall ALMOST made the tenno a singularity across time. I think the tenno can see outside of time. Like doctor Manhattan. The 1999 that we are going to isnt OUR 1999 ours is balas probably creating haden tenno. Entrati probably went to a different dimension AT a different time causing the death if that dimension. He used the protofrsmes to alter its future creating something thst we might not understand just yet. We might meet a third version of ourselves that was never on the zariman because theyre already part Warframe. And in thier augmented reality body modification is normal and the helminth in your ship is probably what live like just like the Unum but pretty. I jist want to know why they javent been seen in the void. And when are they going to find themselves there.

[@reganlau8080]

it will be really hard for DE to pull this through while keeping players fulfilled. The New War had some negative comments on how it felt rushed

[@PenOfEvil]

Yea I'm even more skeptical because the lotus eaters teaser gave us nothing

[@memoryfoammatressstuffedwi8876]

13:20 havent we known since forever that the infested are a hive mind? I thought thats all mutalist alad v talks about.

[@PenOfEvil]

Not exactly, a "temporal connection" means serving as an anchor in time to one another and that is a much larger scale than just a hive mind.

[@aldeonuwu2634]

Did he compleated the sacrifice? Warframes are infested indeed

[@bazukata3734]

"Eternalism" you learn that in zariman af the new war this is the this is what is it

[@ministerjlupine]

(Unrelated) The truly best time travel story with absolutely no plot holes is 12 Monkeys The sci-fi series... not the movie.

[@PenOfEvil]

I might have to check it out!

[@nemesisastraea6659]

Warframe 1999 would be the best way to bring back Hayden Tenno in some fashion in his Proto-Excalibur glory. Lol

[@PenOfEvil]

Absolutely, I actually enjoyed Dark sector all those years ago!

[@leonst.7471]

Like I am new to warframe and the whole lore ingame is badly told like idk who I am and why I exist I just know I have to kill.

[@akumaofthereddeath]

I want a ivara protoframe and the ghost girl protoframe

[@akumaofthereddeath]

I feel like the ghost girl might be a goth and ivara would have a ton of tattoos

[@The-No-one]

Ghost girl?

[@TreyThomas-uw6hk]

ak 47 + ax 52 = 99 which is 1999

[@donalds4506]

Ayo that's actually pretty cool

[@TreyThomas-uw6hk]

@@donalds4506 thanks but this is a stolen comment (I'm going to jail soon)

[@PenOfEvil]

lol

[@akumaofthereddeath]

I Ligit have the pager neer my controll room funnily enough just incase it does something interesting one day when I log in

[@joshuathomasverghese1341]

I say the moment we get the knowledge and his understanding of Wally, we take Albrecht and Tagfer behind a dumpster and let Tagfer take care of business.

[@PenOfEvil]

Lmao word Tagfer deserves some closure

[@grimstrife4338]

I dont like tagfer so im slipping a kinfe in him while he is distracted.

[@andry6164]

Can someone explain what is this game a stand alone new war frame or just the new expansion? Or even a new start of warframe WTF IS THIS

[@PenOfEvil]

@@andry6164 Warframe transforms so much that it's hard to catch up if you haven't been following.

[@andry6164]

@@PenOfEvil I mean if it’s a new stand alone start for warframe where you can play it separately from the warframe we have now it’s basically a new start or it just a new story but you need always the same old account and gear to be able to do that? I am an old veteran lost my 3000+ hours when they switched account from steam now I need to start over but I know it’s insane so if it’s a new start maybe I give a chance

[@PenOfEvil]

@@andry6164 Yea it's actually a continuation of the story so I'm sure new players have to get through a good bit of quests to access it. Which is your position now I'm assuming.

[@MrDpepper]

Entrati is stuck in 1999 forever

[@PenOfEvil]

I don't even know if he is still alive

[@ksxxed]

6/10 on the clickbate for the title ngl cover art calm

[@MSF_Ankhor]

I proceeded to eat when I heard you would not speculate. Next time you say that, act like it.

[@PenOfEvil]

@@MSF_Ankhor my fault I really tried lol

[@DyingDarkStar]

Nah, there's no alt timeline. cuase if you get a virus on a computer, then the coda spawns.

[@PenOfEvil]

Tbh that was a theory, my bad for the lack of clarification. I could be very wrong lol

[@damorioncleavland2003]

It’s just ur slow minded if u can’t understand the game just period!!!!!😪🤣

[@PenOfEvil]

lol troll

[@marksmith4399]

This will be boring another sanctum. No new war, no new story or villain. I’m not really impressed over 1999. De would of did better making it a seperate game

[@PenOfEvil]

Your opinions are welcome but whereas some may find it lackluster, others might like it and that's ok. We all love Warframe in our own ways and want it to do better.

[@marksmith4399]

@@PenOfEvil for now the ones will like it. But then it’ll get old and they move on to another game. Warframe is a good game but it lacks omg content. That’s why it’s not to many people playing the game. Just new people then they quit. And the veteran play it from time to time.

[@The-No-one]

It's gonna show us the man in the wall more, I'm pretty sure since that's the entire reason we're going back in time. And it's pretty obvious that man in the wall is the current bad guy or long term antagonist

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

1999 is overhyped. Also the mall area during tennocon was the biggest over hyped empty box I’ve seen yet not to mention stalker hate’s warframes so DE changing the lore because they’re running out of ideas is just toxic. At this point DE should make an akimbo dual WAR sword because not following lore is a recipe for absolute DISASTER

[@joelrobinson5457]

He hates them because of what they were made to be,

[@PenOfEvil]

I will admit that 1999 feels a bit disconnected, like it wasn't planned from the beginning. And Albrecht having a time machine that no other Orokin knows about makes zero sense. Despite that I still think it'll be a fun update.

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

@@PenOfEvil sure it will probably be fun just hope it doesn’t follow the DE Event motto of grind one mission for a month. Very boring.

[@_pyza_]

I agree with the whole overhyped But knowing DE it still will be worth the wait And I too would like the missions to not be a grindfest Cuz i understand it's that kind of game But it would be nice of them to make it worth ones time And fun even after repeating the same thing n-times over

[@lowryder1387]

​@PenOfEvil in deadlock protocol we found out Ballas knew of entradi begin able to time travel because he gave parvos protea. Ballas says the entradi violated time an I violated them

[@170skeith]

Trying to keep up with the story can be confusing but I gotta say I love that I can still play through each story instead of having content sunset like destiny does. I took a break from destiny 2 for a while and when I went back there was full storylines I couldn't playthrough because they were removed so I had to skip a bunch of stuff it was so infuriating and I ended up getting into Warframe instead