How Project 2025 Targets Atheists (and Non-Religious Americans)

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

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[@John-sl3lu]

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[@4D_yeah]

@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic no

[@zeev]

bro ive been watching you deprogram yourself on display for an audience for sometime now, really from your first couple videos. -----you know ,and we know that you know, your entire society is corporation hacking your addictive brain to isolate you into a pattern of radical individualism and consumption. society is beign cracked open from its foundations by social dominance strata of megacorps controlling your so called political system. and this is where you go? to this end of politics? i side with elon musk in his sentiments against censorship and the meme he sent recently , and send that to you. you are a so called 'hyper-rationalist' who doesn't appreciate the reality that we cannot make a better world without acknowledging mankind is irrational and choosing NOT to abuse ourselves and one another, but to acknowledge a higher prupose and reason for respecting one another and choosing to rememdy our irrationalism. your hyper-rationalism is raw machievellian abusiveness. i not only question your personal motives at this point, but the algorithms excessive promotion of your garbage platform. 4 + years of giving you the benefit of the doubt. UNSUBBED.

[@Nope148]

Among others, they want to abolish the DoE, legalize all forms of discrimination, criminalize "racism against whites", and criminalize ALL porn, full stop.

[@bbelindamorris6384]

🤣

[@muadeeb]

Remember: this is what they felt COMFORTABLE printing

[@therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar]

Yes. And wtf is in the FOURTH PART THING?

[@Beautyargentina6]

Yea I’m terrified of religious people I have no doubt that the worst evil possible is religious evil

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

@@treesoul00 It probably goes back all the way to the days of the Confederacy, tbh. Andrew Jackson believed that slavery was ordained by God and that he "Maketh men to differ" therefore he put his own personal grievances aside to serve what he thought was God's will... He was also very strange with his piety, ritualizing even mundane things like drinking glasses of water, but that's a tangent :P

[@jacob18310]

Remember: Ensure that you’re registered to vote & try to vote early if your state allows it

[@rio5347]

Good, now seethe harder

[@chibbersthesquirrel6189]

"Freedom of religion" also necessitates freedom FROM religion, because it is impossible to truly have freedom of religion without being free from the tenets of every religion that you don't believe in. This separation of church and state protects atheists and theists equally.

[@Zoki4444]

The MAGA death cult of Trump think "freedom of religion" means "freedom to force Christianity onto non-believers".

[@Baby_ghost__b]

That's why I love how the french take the laïcité. It's to separate any religion and the state. I saw many Americans saying that it was stupid and horrible but that's the only way. People need to understand that the laws should be prioritised over your beliefs. The laws are for everyone.😊

[@flowerflour5257]

​@@Baby_ghost__b the US is a laic state

[@fuzzymandrake]

tenets*

[@orionx79]

Sure as long as religious exceptions still exist, otherwise there is no freedom of religion. ​@@Baby_ghost__b

[@svandergaast1]

I think it’s important to note that this isn’t just against atheists and the religiously unaffiliated but also religious individuals who aren’t Christian:Jews, pagans, Hindus etc.

[@riseofdarkleela]

And eventually the “wrong kind” of Christians too.

[@christinanicholson1980]

That's cuz only Christians have been COMMANDED to love ppl... so only Christians deserve rights

[@59master60]

Dang

[@dragondancer1814]

As a Wiccan, this is a HUGE reason why this country flipping red and enacting Project 2025 terrifies me-my non-Christian religion would immediately make me a target!

[@leonardpaulson]

It doesn’t take clairvoyance to see how this will ultimately apply to everyone who isn’t in their ideological bubble… and even many who are. The Evangelical political movement calls the shots in the GOP, particularly when it comes to social policies. Once they secure their authority, Catholics like Matt Walsh, Mormons like Mike Lee, conservative Jews like Ben Shapiro, mouthy broads like Marjorie Taylor Green, sleep walking gay men like Dave Rubin and woo woo theists like Jordan Peterson will realize one day that it’s now their turn to experience Christ’s loving embrace.

[@victoriafuller4148]

Every Nazi belt buckle said “Gott Mit Uns” which loosely translates to “God’s on our side.” Dang right that kind of rhetoric can be dangerous!

[@karlscher5170]

That belt buckle was a tradition from the Prussian monarchy, which adopted it in 1810. The belt buckle feom the Waffen ss red "unsere ehre heißt treue". "Our honour means loyalty". Moustache man was very critical of christianity in a nietzschian sense and really fond of lslam

[@theseustoo]

@@karlscher5170 'Moustache man' was a Roman Catholic and even an altar boy. There's an adorable picture of him in his cassock and cotter, aged about 10. He thought he was doing god's work... he says so over and over again in Mein Kampf. And there's a very famous photo in existence of him shaking hands with the then pope (I think it was Pious XII at that time). His very first treaty was the Reichskonkordat in which he agreed to recognize the rights of Catholics to freedom of worship without persecution, in exchange for the RC Church refraining from interfering in German politics or publicly criticizing him for his treatment of the you-know-whos... And the RCC NEVER DID!

[@karlscher5170]

@@theseustoo Are you a musIim or a whitey trained to hate his own culture? That's the only reason for you ignoring the alliance moustache man made with the leader of the people later to be known as paIestinians and his expression of respect and admiration for the lslamic ideology.

[@JulianDulay-m8t]

@@theseustoo Do not let this distract you from the fact that the Nazis proceeded to take a dump on the Catholic Church anyway. After signing the _Reichskonkordat,_ what did the German government do? Pretend like it doesn't exist. Clamp down on any Catholics trying to save Jews from their impending fate. Silence political opposition from the Church hierarchy. Stick it up Rome's behind. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge

[@Yi65193]

@@theseustoo Lateran Treaty? aren't you thinking about Mussolini?

[@justbaqirr]

It's not only Americans affected; other countries might use this as an excuse to implement similar laws.

[@unicorntamer2207]

Do you want religious pharmacies instead? Go to a faith healer, I guess.

[@one-nu2dh]

​@@youtubehatesfreespeech2555 lmfao, go eat garlic or something

[@jaclo3112]

@youtubehatesfreespeech2555 wtf is atheistic science?

[@richardh8082]

@justbaqirr Absolutely! There is no such thing as a 'harmless' religion

[@cheshireket3132]

​@@youtubehatesfreespeech2555 it's on you that your comment makes no sense.

[@lisreads4872]

Separation between church and state has blurred so much with current politics. It scares me.

[@Maria1000G]

be scared

[@n0etic_f0x]

Can’t separate the two if the Church is the state. Now that’s just good thinking.

[@blackgreyfox242]

@@Maria1000G Why go with fear when you can use defiance?

[@thedrowforjehovah1589]

We will always be a Nation Wit Jesus First!

[@WolfyboiRTCT]

It never was like that in the first place. Lol​@@thedrowforjehovah1589

[@greenland_shark_2009]

please don't ask why I'm crying about other people's rights being stripped away in a country built on the idea of freedom.

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

Bro this is everybody's rights. Like people seem to forget that when they say they will only come after one group, _they're really just coming for everybody._ *For example: If people don't have the freedom to not engage with a specific religion, **_that religion will only keep getting more specific._* Like it won't ever stop because suffering is the point. They want you to be Jesus on the cross regardless of what sins they say you committed. They want to be able to punish you literally for just existing while you turn the other cheek and continously beg for forgiveness because the state dedicates all it's energy to making the rest of your life a living hell. They want a system that doesn't function for even the most morally perfect of people while explicitly expecting EVERYONE to meet that standard regardless for the sake of it. *It doesn't matter what you do and don't do, it's purely about hierarchy and those who arbitrarily have power just being better than you for the sake of it.* *_They literally just want others to suffer more than them._*

[@mcdylster6678]

I'm right there with you. They don't even respect Christianity. How can someone freely choose Christianity if you force it upon them? How can we say we walk in love if we are lording over others? My religion has been co-opted by Individualistic Capitalists... who don't really care about those who don't share the same sentiments as them... We gotta get out and vote to keep this from happening.

[@Tukeen]

More like collectivistic corporatists​@@mcdylster6678

[@lowbarbillcraig3689]

@@mcdylster6678 JESUS supposedly gave you free will so you could choose & love JESUS freely [1] but Christians don't have to care about what JESUS wanted. [2] except for that little thing about coercion by threat of eternal, infinite torture

[@greenland_shark_2009]

@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty I agree with you but I don't live in the us

[@timseguine2]

The biggest red flag for me is the denial that he knows anything about it, and then in the same breath saying that he doesn't agree with the ideas. Which is it? Both of those things can't be true at the same time.

[@evangedeon2194]

Wait, wait, run it back. Project 2025 is horrible for obvious reasons, but... Why the HELL do they have a problem with clean water?! We need to stop this supervillain plot immediately!

[@lavendarcrash2941]

"EPA overreach has put too great a burden on American industry" is the official GOP party line. Project 2025 prescribes replacing career bureaucrats & experts/specialists with political appointments or cutting the division altogether.

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

It infringes on people's right to sell unclean water. And that's worth more than people's right to not being poisoned to these people.

[@mattjones5105]

The nestle guy must have a hand in it lol

[@dragonhealer7588]

​@@Spencer-wc6ew Of course you can sell unclean water. I can buy almost all I want. It's billed as "Non pottable water" We don't need the EPA to say you can't sell unclean water as pottable water, we have laws about injuring people, false advertising, etc.

[@trappedinamerica7740]

@@dragonhealer7588leave it up to lawsuits you say… suffer and THEN seek compensation IF you can deal with expensive corporate lawyers.

[@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters]

Repeat it for those in the back: "Even if Trump loses, the plan will still move forward" Don't just vote and forget.

[@pleasestopscreaming]

Yep, I think this is important. We can't just stop worrying about this after this election.

[@aglassofmilk5779]

Deus vult

[@UnderdogSMO]

it may but it will be a LOT harder, Most of the plan demands Loyalist to do anything. there counting on Trump appointing even more Federalist right wing Judges (there is a lot of cross over with people in MAGA, Federalist society, and The Haratage foundation) Its going to be a lot harder if Harris puts in more moderat or left leaning federal judge's. More so if they actually strengthen shit like labor laws (wich seems to be Welz whole thing)

[@alexrogers777]

@@aglassofmilk5779 easiest way to identify a terminally online christian: they post "deus vult" LARP

[@OutsideSometimes]

The video's point that this is not just a one off thing, and is an everyday part of the struggle against people who want to curtail freedom, is a good one.

[@autumnjacaranda106]

Project 2025 is terrifying. What’s more terrifying is that they’re just going to make a project 2029 after this…

[@HungryWarden]

It’s a supervillain plot in real life.

[@thedude9941]

Yes this is only the start, and it's been in the works since the 80s going back to the Council of National policy.

[@mythicdw7826]

Exactly. 💯 After all the hard work they put into creating this 900+ page fascist manuscript and developing bonds/alliance s with like minded people, there's no way they're gonna give up after the 2024 election. They'll just move on from Trump onto the NEXT Republican presidential candidate in future elections. 😨💀😨

[@MrGrumblier]

And the Democrats want to create the People's Democratic Republic of the United States of America. At least the Far Right lets you know what they are wanting to do.

[@ARandomDonut]

Hopefully Trump will die before then? He's a master at spreading lies, I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone else to replicate that. They would still have the plan, but they wouldn't have an effective spokesperson.

[@ellewilliams9424]

I’m a Christian. I’m also a veteran and recognize the absolute necessity of protecting the values and rights of my fellow Americans of all stripes. We are a constitutional republic and secular society that allows for all to worship as they please or not. I’m horrified by Agenda 47 and will not vote for the GOP.

[@Savedcitytitan7118]

Please dont claim to be a christian

[@Non-religiou]

You say you're a Christian, do u know the belief system you serve are all based on lies?

[@DR-JOHN-DEJAVU-1984]

Faith has no evidence.

[@AdventurousDiscoveryVlog]

@@DR-JOHN-DEJAVU-1984And that’s why that bill targeting you atheists because of comments like that

[@sypherthe297th2]

​@@AdventurousDiscoveryVlog While the comment didn't need to be said, it is objectively true. Fascists like you, on the other hand, should be in prison for the rest od.your natural lives. We've seen what happens when your kind gains power.

[@tiffanyekwonna2573]

Project 2025 also targets poor and middle-class families by setting out to force public school students to take the Military Entrance Exam while exempting private school students. Furthermore, *Assistant Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife are members of the organization that wrote Project 2025, The Heritage Foundation.* EDIT: I made a video about it on my channel. I plan to talk about how this manifesto negatively affects military members, too.

[@Mich6961]

It's amazing how soo many conservatives think their party is against the elite.

[@fuzzybuzzy3159]

This is the most obviously hateful thing I have ever seen. Putting social stratification in law!

[@TubularCeaser]

Not to mention Project 2025 also purposes a fixed tax bracket which will result in the poor paying more and the rich paying less overall in taxes. This whole manifesto is insanely targeted against poor and middle class Americans.

[@tiffanyekwonna2573]

@@fuzzybuzzy3159 It's cheesy movie villain levels of hate.

[@Wud-f2r]

@@tiffanyekwonna2573 It’s codifying the privilege that people like “bone spurs” have always enjoyed. They intend to increase average prosperity by sending all the poor people off to war.

[@arahman56]

"Freedom to pray" from the same people that blow a gasket when they notice Muslim students using an empty classroom to pray 😅

[@colinguo5855]

It's freedom to do what we consider is good.

[@mistressofstones]

I'm Australian and I don't get this issue. I can pray anywhere, in my head. There's no need to yell prayers AT people or FORCE others to pray the same way as me. It's just bizarre, it's impossible to stop people from praying.

[@xXEGPXx]

@@colinguo5855 What YOU consider good, your policies which are famously unpopular. Look at actual polls about conservative policy, none of them have any higher than a 30% national approval rate, the vast majority of them hovering around 15%

[@BasuraVidz]

​@@colinguo5855my god, get over yourself. America is built on the idea of RELIGOUS FREEDOM for ALL... Not just your specific religion.

[@ecab992]

@@colinguo5855 and you don't see anything wrong with that?

[@stilltoomanyhats]

Remember when the founding fathers said "It's theocracy time" and theocracy'd all over the constitution? No? Me neither.

[@bartolomeothesatyr]

Article 11 of the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, ratified unanimously without debate by a Senate full of the founding fathers of this nation and signed into law by President John Adams, unequivocally states "[t]he Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

[@1Orderchaos]

@@bartolomeothesatyr Let me add a few more so you can better defend against people like that. “The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or Mohammedan Nation.” John Adams (American statesman, attorney, diplomat, writer, Founding Father & 2nd president) The 1st Amendment's Establishment Clause prohibits the government from making any law, “respecting an establishment of religion.” This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion. Constitution Article VI Supreme Law - Clause 3 Oaths of Office "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." This means nobody is ever required to swear on the Bible, or any other religious book for an oath of office. They may choose a religious book, but none is required. “...the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion." -Treaty of Tripoli - June 7, 1797. Signed by President John Adams & Ratified UNANIMOUSLY, by the United States June 10, 1797 ....only a few times in history the Senate unanimously agreed on anything. “This would be the best of all possible Worlds, if there were no Religion in it” -John Adams )Letter from John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 19 April 1817) "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -Thomas Jefferson (Letter from Jefferson to John Adams, 11 April 1823) "The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason." -Benjamin Franklin (Poor Richard's Almanac) “The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion....and as this is the case with Christian theology, it is therefore the study of nothing.” ― Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason (1794)

[@RebeccaOre]

The first country to recognize the United States was Morocco. US political leaders reassure both Jewish communities in the US and Muslim communities outside it that we were by no means a Christian nation, but everyone was free to worship privately if they wanted. No established religion means no established religion, less we descend to the lynching over theocracy that New England had.

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

​@@bartolomeothesatyr The more I hear about the founding fathers, the more I'm impressed.

[@marcpatton5207]

@@bartolomeothesatyr I'd double check this. I've heard that this phrase doesn't actually exist, and I didn't see it in the translation of the treaty that I read. That said, I can't read Arabic so must rely on such translations. EDIT: To be clear, I'm not saying that the United States IS a Christian nation, just that this might not be the document to point to in order to prove it.

[@dlanorsoved]

that is why Seneca wrote: "Religion is true for the commoner, false for the wise, and useful for the politician."

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

He lived in the days of gods invented at whim, don't forget.

[@rayhall5280]

Picture this a business owner who is an atheist telling Christian people he won't hire them or do work for them. How fast would this Supreme Court shut this business down? 🤷

[@jacindaellison3363]

In a New York minute!

[@headphonesaxolotl]

Probably not. It would cause a stir on social media, though.

[@calandratelemnar5413]

I agree that they shouldnt be discriminated against because of their religion. As long as they work and do well I could care less what religion they are.

[@Sephiroth144]

You mean someone who does NOT have a religious reason (since Atheist is not a religion)? Struck down immediately... And no, claiming the other's religion is a problem, when YOUR religion isn't in play (because, again, not a religion) its not the same. Now, if you changed the Atheist to someone from a "heathen religion"- say, a Hindu, Wodinist or even a Satanist, it'd be harder to dismiss out of hand (without weakening the law in general).

[@rayhall5280]

@Sephiroth144 🤣🙄 All those other examples of religions are exactly as real as any other religion. That was quite a big post to say absolutely nothing. 🤣

[@AskMarkieMark]

Here’s where I would love to see a discussion: Direct comparison between Project 2025 to the German Nazi Nationalists programs and publications. I think people need to see this for what it is. A rewrite.

[@lolnopleaseno]

Yes, and the comparison needs to be talked about more. I really really wish modern European history would be covered well in North American public schools; I studied it under an amazing prof in university and it contextualizes so much of what project 2025 is.

[@Thomas-uc4sg]

so many people are so oblivious, they think anyone not waving the flag and worshiping Hitler isn't on a nazi path. I'm not calling people nazis I disagree with them, I disagree with them because they're nazis

[@katyungodly]

We need to reimplement denazification. It clearly didn't take the first time around.

[@n0etic_f0x]

@@AskMarkieMark They're The Same Picture

[@riseofdarkleela]

The Venn Circle

[@jamesbest9038]

“When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”

[@HungryWarden]

An actually true prophecy.

[@miskatonic_alumni]

Just as it was in Italy, Germany, Spain, Hungary, Romania, Vichy France, etc.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

And holding a bible.

[@opalopal-g8q]

I never thought I'd see the epidemy of the deep south if project 2025 gets through.

[@hokusman100]

More like fondling a flag and selling bibles

[@pollymccall5938]

What horrifies me the most about most home school "regulations" is that there is no attempt to find out if the parents are abusive. I am afraid to think of how many children are being abused and concealed from mandatory reporters

[@CorwinFound]

Absolutely! It's similar to sex ed. Kids who receive age appropriate, comprehensive, evidence based sex ed are significantly less likely to suffer sexual abuse. But the religious right is against that as well. The harsh reality is that many of them see children and youth as property to do with as they will. They see parental rights as superseding children's rights in every situation after birth. Not that I'm saying every Evangelical abuses their children but homeschooling and ignorance around sexual issues certainly makes it a lot easier.

[@BuddyHoyt]

Well stated. Their goal is religious supremacy, not religious freedom.

[@sageex3931]

Exactly

[@gdubs276]

Wow we could live in an age where skepticism is illegal

[@shrekiscool4743]

farenheit 451 reference real

[@TheGreyShaman]

And if you ever find yourself in those 3D moments via this 4D construct of time then you have gotten exactly what you wanted and have lost the game. Thank goodness we live in a multiverse or else we would all be stuck with the same reality.

[@GiftigeBalspuwer]

And then they call the people on the left fascist 😅

[@livinglandmine4374]

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." Liberty or ☠, everyone. This should be our rally cry.

[@mrfigaloopierre9610]

The most anti-gun leftists after reading project 2025…

[@evanwademan5602]

Ok trump cultist

[@dengar96]

​@@mrfigaloopierre9610 if you think actual leftists aren't armed, I have some news for you

[@AntonioTheTurtle]

Oh there are options that aren’t guns. I have dangerous acid for a reason.

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

@@mrfigaloopierre9610 Not all leftists are anti-gun, you know...

[@mrcxx8694]

"1984" + "Handmaid's Tale" = "Project 2025". Yay! This is what a fascist blueprint looks like.

[@mantelumgamingloilol123]

dont forget a sprinkle of austrian painter

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

I Guess Sooner or later the American Flag will be a Bundle of Rods wrapped around a certain Cross ✝

[@__-tz6xx]

I am amazed at how many people are so delusional and try to control others lives and think they are in the right all the time yet don't recognize how delusional they are.

[@christinanicholson1980]

Anarchy- cuz i don't need Laws to tell me how to be a good girl Satan# Commandments are not why i LOVE

[@ErikWithBrain]

Absolute certainty is both addictive and comforting.

[@stevenknight6756]

One could also argue that people are already controlled monetarily. I'm not necessarily in favor of Project 2025 as a whole, but cutting the fat from wasted government spending could potentially free many Americans. Unless you think someone working 2-3 part time jobs is freedom.

[@philosotree5876]

It's not all delusion. Some of them are just sociopaths.

[@AnnonymousPrime-ks4uf]

​@@ErikWithBrainAnd absolute uncertainty is how idiots are kept in check to be used by the powerful who are certain of their agenda.

[@Greksallad]

As someone from a very irreligious country, this is honestly hard to really grasp. I can't believe there are actual people who actually want to implement this fascist theocracy. It feels like some bad joke, my brain just can't accept that these people are real.

[@alexrogers777]

Spend an hour or two talking to people in a small town in a flyover state, they are very real and completely opposed to compromise

[@solar0wind]

I'm German, and my dad is parroting a lot of these things without understanding the implications. He's also constantly talking about wokeism, marxism, and judeo-christian values. I've known for some time that he parrots talking-points from conservative American politicians and Christians fundamentalists, but now I know that he gets his information from people who support Agenda 2025, and that worries me. I know that he doesn't want a totalitarian theocracy, in fact, he wants the opposite, but he would totally read all this and think it's good because he lacks the knowledge about American culture and the necessary understanding to see behind those phrases or understand their implications. But since he has an IQ of 140+, he's able to sound smart and convince people. I'm scared that if there are more people like my dad in Germany, these policies could come here at some point.

[@musiccer7446]

@@solar0windas a fellow German, America and we are VERY different in regards to religion, I think if we have to worry about autocracy it will be completely unrelated to religion, unlike the USA. Quite a statistically unlikely IQ score, sounds rather strange for such an intelligent person to simply parrot talking points rather than analysing and coming up with own opinions

[@just_tired701]

I wish it were a bad joke.

[@solar0wind]

@@musiccer7446 If those things are implemented in Germany, they won't have religious justifications, but right-wing parties are already buying into this rhetoric. And also, the IQ-score is not unlikely, it's just uncommon. He's extremely smart, is extremely educated, and holds a PhD in a science. But, as he himself quotes a lot: "Intelligenz schützt vor Dummheit nicht.". He's smart but seems to me extremely gullible. And he talks about many things with the same certainty in his voice, doesn't matter if he's an expert or just read articles from his apparently partially extremist sources. For someone that doesn't know him like I do, he's extremely convincing, and took me to get to my mid-20s (what I'm now) to see through it. This behaviour seems to be driven by narcissistic tendencies and a lack of empathy. He's not a bad person, and he wants the best for people, but he literally cannot comprehend life experiences he didn't go through, so he dismisses them.

[@anastylos2812]

This will also target Christians that aren't evangelical Christian nationalists. And sooner or later it will also target Christian nationalists who are not fanatic enough. Promoting homeschooling and private schools sounds bad enough, but they will revoke that when they realise they can indoctrinate children better in public schools once they have changed what is taught.

[@w_7337]

@@sarahyoon3069 christian nationalism is very real and already exists. not that you would believe it, considering you are very much a nazi!

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

Fascism can only survive if you keep the country in constant state of paranoia. To achieve that you need "enemies". You get rid of one group then you move on another one. In the end no one is safe

[@sageex3931]

Yeah

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

This is One World Religion. Nonbelievers aren't the ones disapproves these movements.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

I’ve never heard of a movement like this going after their own for not being extreme enough.

[@str8inPilot]

I was born in Papua New Guinea. Even as a child going to Sunday School, I could see that it was not okay to be telling the Papuans that they should be Christians. The various tribes in Papua New Guinea had their own beliefs before white people went there. If the Christian god was what they said it was, it would already be known by the beautiful Papuan people who were just fine the way they were to me.

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

Actually good comparative religion studies do show that things which resemble Christian gospel ideals show up in various indigenous religions. The Christian missionary should be seeking to impart focus, not fog, to such peoples, by understanding the beliefs of the peoples and explaining the improvement in perspective that the Lord brings. That's why a classic missionary song goes "We've a story to tell to the nations." It's often not the ideals that are so bad; it's the lack of a solid back story to believe and the consequent spiritual weakness, despite the ideals, in trying times. So why care about the Papuans if they've got some small clue? Well even on earth getting a bigger clue is better, but also on earth is the stage whose losses and victories will project into everlasting life. This is like restoring an artwork. Part of it may be gorgeous, but part of it may be quite worn away. The restorer will make the whole thing look great.

[@conlangknow8787]

This is literally like the "Sharia law" everyone was so scared about

[@viponlymusic5790]

Ah so they cheated on their homework....sounds about right

[@katyungodly]

Christians have been advocating for Christian sharia in the US ever since Reagan, and very openly in fact. I'm extremely surprised people are only just now finding out about this. I grew up in the church and heard them talking about getting Christian extremists into government for literally my entire life before I left the church for their extremism at age 18.

[@flickwtchr]

These Christian Nationalists are indeed the American Taliban. They have envied the Taliban for decades.

[@Ryuujinv01]

​@@viponlymusic5790 To be fair they also wrote the test. The extreme religious right didn't take over in the middle east on accident. Our government paid their right wing extremists to hunt anyone left of center during the cold war then later our far right partnered with the remainder because of how much they ideologically agreed which lead to the inevitable leopards eating faces nine eleven.

[@Asvnaro]

No, Shariah is far worse. I lived under it for a time and have seen it in action.

[@iluvtacos1231]

It's honestly impressive that no matter how bad something I hear about Project 2025, there is ALWAYS something buried in there that is so much worse.

[@sageex3931]

Facts

[@jamesdownard1510]

Project 2025 is also interlocked with a widespread network of culture war extremist authoritarian theocrats, most notably the secretive Council for National Policy, whose membership is knee-deep in the formation of modern Christian Nationalism, creationism and such things.

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

It's so bad there's no way it isn't a distraction tactic for something else horrible.

[@jacindaellison3363]

@vitriolicAmaranth makes you wonder WHAT ELSE is being made in the shadows that will out of nowhere spring? First Roe v Wade reversal, and now this. What's next-oh God, I don't want to think about it!

[@jamesdownard1510]

@@jacindaellison3363 It is not impossible for creationists to finally push through a state restoration of creationism for schools, and Trump Supreme Court to dust off Scalia's dissent to overturn Edwards v Aguillard 1983 and allow that in science classes.

[@Widkey]

Project 2025 might as well be called Project Fascism

[@Eelainer]

Projekt 1933

[@aouyiu]

it's even worse than that, more like the foundation to Orwell's work.

[@pufffincrazy5275]

Um…America’s already fascist dude.

[@Reed5016]

Project 1985.

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

​@@pufffincrazy5275True, a corporate facism, but this will seal the deal and make it far worse

[@timghilks7666]

Basically the christian version of Sharia Law?

[@mrmusiclover4178]

Excellent video. I am a liberal gay atheist (one of the very few white non-Republicans, and probably the ONLY local atheist) living in a small Southern town 100% ruled by the Far Right. Democrats don't even run for most races. The Southern Baptists rule this corrupt little town and control the town and county governments. BTW, I am 83 and have no choice about living here. I despise the place, but I am stuck. Thank goodness I have You Tube. It is great to be able to see and hear folks like you. I am frightened about the prospect of another republican president and Project 2025, especially living here. Keep up the good work! By the way, I am constantly chastised for not attending church services!

[@markgibson7123]

I'm in a small, rural Alabama town. Clearly divided, by race as well as politics. Evangelical/fundamentalists have been in charge forever. It's like a time warp; it's 1924 instead of 2024. Everyone wants things to be like the "good old days" of grandma and grandpa. They live in a fantasy world of their own creation and reinforced my the propaganda/media they consume.

[@cindyfrye3026]

You have my sympathy.

[@kellidetring2698]

I am evangelical christian, against christian nationalism, and would gladly be friends with you and not force my religion on you.

[@savaialaddams6273]

I know how you feel. My state is so red it bleeds. People so isolated within their own counties, not to mention the state, that they blindly follow any Republican with a megawatt smile. Doesn't mean crap if they don't follow through, either; SAVE THE UNBORN regardless of the incubator's health or needs, regardless of what will happen to them after they are out in this world. I live in a valley a half mile long, with three churches interspersed within, and none of these people in any of these congregations have any loyalty once you leave the church of their choice, no matter how long you attended, tithed, or gave. Neighbors turned into cancellation. I have nothing but contempt for the average Christian, because my mother actually walked the talk, and now she only has me because her church collapsed and now no one gives a flying eff about her. Literally 40 years of giving into a church and a community just died with the worst pastor (pray away the gay), and the United Methodist Church dividing over whether or not to include gays into the effing church... WTF. And, BTW, my mom NEVER cared about sexual preference even though she had one herself. She's 89, and more tolerant of things than a lot of others a quarter of her age. I hate what religion does to people. Turns your brains into mush. The very second money stops being a major part of religion is the very second i start to take an interest. Effort is worth more than money.

[@BusltinNinthies]

That's the typical Christian way of that cult behavior especially in the South.

[@Delaterius]

They state in the, uh, family planning section of their manifesto that their goal is to create "a well-ordered society." Just let that sink in.

[@somexp12]

Their rights are being infringed on by having to witness you living in a way that fails to validate them in their values. They have a right to feel good about themselves, and that means you have a duty to publicly pretend to approve of their values.

[@Delaterius]

@@somexp12 You give them too much credit. Their actual claim is that someone living in a way that doesn't validate their values is literally destroying society, so it needs to be outlawed to maintain order

[@vhopine3776]

Get those Handmaiden garments ready!

[@EdwardM-t8p]

A "well-ordered society" where women, LGBTQ+ people, racial, ethnic, and religious minorities, the disabled, and the poor are put in and know their (our) place.

[@somexp12]

@@Delaterius Well, that's just their rhetoric. Even if they believe it, they're not sincerely afraid of anyone actually destroying society. That would require a sense of altruism, which they do not possess. The motivation that actually moves them, the one that caused them to invent this "they're destroying society" rhetoric, is the bruised ego they feel when they see someone not doing what they said they should do.

[@ichaukan]

I'll always refer to Project 2025 as the American Taliban Manifesto.

[@PhotonBeast]

You could also go with the various theocratic states as examples (Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Vatican City, and Yemen) of what they're looking for in practice.

[@yelir64]

@@carter-ny1kz Christian nationalists and the taliban have way more in common than you might believe

[@MrPromethium0157]

I call it the MAGA Carta.

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

Bib-aliban ChrIStIS Other examples...

[@EdwardM-t8p]

I call it The Televangeliban and sometimes ChrISIS.

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

Not being able to force religion onto people is discrimination to them.

[@Leith_Crowther]

Eh, let them think that. They’re wrong, but if that’s discrimination, then that just means discrimination is sometimes good.

[@costelinha1867]

just a classic example of "To priviledged people, equality feels like oppression"

[@bificommander7472]

It reminds me of a cartoon where a torch wearing mob is telling the person they tried to the stake "Quit wiggling, that's oppressing our religious freedom."

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

​@@bificommander7472 😆😆🤦

[@davidradich9342]

Yeah, I have seen enough tik toks of insane marxist teachers (whom I thank God I never had to deal with when I was a teacher) where these people brag about how their role is to brainwash kids into their own orthodoxy. PROJECTION!

[@Merriwether-w8k]

I was targeted by a Catholic family for being an atheist and for being queer

[@Faygo2215]

Im surprised they didn't target you for being a child.

[@FactStorm]

Catholicism is literally fascism

[@ColinWrubleski-eq5sh]

Bully for them. You had two-fold offended them...

[@alexrogers777]

Cases like this are what what make me laugh whenever christians claim they are "tolerant" and that others aren't. Like, instances of christians attacking people simply for being different are so common that people don't even get outraged about it because it's so normalized, people expect it of them and if they don't do it they get a pat on the back for doing literally the bare minimum

[@micromagic3874]

@@ColinWrubleski-eq5sh shut up dawg

[@Robynhoodlum]

14:25 We legit had a bible study "club" at my highschool even though we were not in a very conservative area. You know what was more popular? The Gay-Straight Alliance and Anime Clubs. The KNITTING club was more popular than bible study. No one is banning prayer, we're just not mandating non-christians to pray anymore.

[@RebeccaOre]

@darkstrifequeen1458 I grew up in South Carolina where the most sadistic teacher would ask most Mondays if we'd attended Sunday School and Church.

[@coolsceegaming6178]

@darkstrifequeen1458I think the point was more that knitting clubs are usually kinda niche, so to have one be more popular says a lot about how no one gave a shit about the bible club.

[@MrMarineBro]

“I’m sorry sir, our police, EMS, and Fire only respond to Christian houses” . Wait for it, it’ll happen.

[@drewskee284]

that’s so scary holy fuck

[@CorwinFound]

Already happening with cops and the justice system, just reversed to the negative. Police departments consistently over-police, sometimes brutally, marginalized groups. The justice system metes out significantly harsher penalties to minorities. Could Project 2025 make it worse? For sure. But make no mistake, it is already happening and has existed for literal centuries. Look up how policing started in the US if you want some horror.

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

"We are sorry Sir, but You are sentenced to Death for having an affair with another Boy" Wait for this to happen

[@antoinejenhickey5135]

The homeschooling thing is a BIG one. I live in a state with practically zero homeschooling oversight. All that accomplishes is protecting child abusers. I essentially had no schooling under the guise of “homeschooling”. I have young elementary age kids now and it sucks that I basically don’t know about anything they are learning. I was never taught any of it. Homeschooling protects abusers from having their kids in front of mandatory reporters. I understand there are some situations that it is in the child’s best interest, but I know from personal experience - that is not the case for most of us.

[@bartolomeothesatyr]

"Homeschooling protects abusers from having their kids in front of mandatory reporters."

[@neowild]

I am sorry for your experience, nonetheless, that is a very strong statement, and as someone who is homeschooled I have seen the opposite myself. I was homeschooled because I kept getting abused in the public school system and they covered it up because "there was nothing physically overt therefore it wasn't actually abuse". The public school system was holding me back and I was homeschooled and I excelled and was ahead of my piers. Plus I have heard of many cases of abusive parents who still send their kids to public school where the abuse is not seen. I am sympathetic that abuse sucks, and that your parents withholding education from you is another form of abuse, however, that points to a problem with the way homeschooling is observed not with homeschooling in of itself just like how my experiences do not mean the public school is invalid in of itself.

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

​@@bartolomeothesatyr Is the OP trying to generalize every one of them? I reread the comment, I don't know which one specifically, they don't write which position within a group.

[@luiginumbers6268]

@@davidarvingumazon5024I mean yeah kinda. OP makes generic enough statements that a valid counter argument is not only acceptable but necessary to avoid echo chamber thinking.

[@RebeccaOre]

NC has (or had) a rule that home schooled children had to pass basic achievement tests annually. That has some merit. West Virginia said that all that was required of home schoolers was two more years of education than the child's age. I've known of some home schooled children doing really well, and others not so much. Many home schooled children want to go to public school in adolescence since that's where band classes, football, other sorts, and hanging out with friends are.

[@weirdwilliam8500]

Is their religion so weak and fragile that they need to protect it from questions, criticism, and doubt? My beliefs don’t need that protection.

[@Leah-Heala]

They were top dog for many years. Now all of their aggression against people, hobbies, and ideas they don't like isn't being coddled so they get very very angry. They're basically entitled Karen's, except they have kinda large influences still so it's hard to uproot them.

[@sageex3931]

Facts

[@RebeccaOre]

People who don't use a religion to bully others are far more convincing by their practice than the door to door people who try lying to get you to open the door so they can insult you for being an agnostic.

[@twhimsy]

The answer is yes. Their religion is that weak and sad and goes against humanity. Their religion is not what I call Christianity, however. They worship death and pain and fear. Those things go against what Jesus and his heavenly Father are. 🤷 We need to start to calling them out for what they are.

[@NickLinke]

Any religion based on fear isn't actual spirituality

[@nerdoftheatre]

8:50 Libraries are also one of the only spaces where people can just exist. Where there is no barrier to information. You should be scared when people are wanting to close all libraries and jail anyone who works at a library.

[@sherryobar5750]

And banning books :(

[@a420triggerman.]

If you actually read instead of listening to hyperbole, it bans pornography from school libraries, not those in the town square. Same as they are going to get rid of the Department of Education, only in D.C. and not the individual states. Once again reading comprehension isn't being exercised here they're cherry picking and giving a false interpretation.

[@lamarw7757]

@@sherryobar5750 * Pornography in school libraries.

[@Dakumun640]

@@lamarw7757 * pornography as in transgenderism, lgbt, medical books, according to the people parroting 2025 as America's saving grace.

[@jmanners]

@@lamarw7757 Do you think they're handing out Playboys in school libraries? Do you think kids are getting centerfolds from the Scholastic Book Fair? Where is the porn in school libraries? Because throughout my entire public school life, I never saw anything worse than what you could find in a Spongebob movie. Where's the evidence for your claim?

[@reedclippings8991]

As an AZ teacher, I can't emphasize enough how spot on this man is about our voucher scam. Thank you for using your platform to shed light on this.

[@riseofdarkleela]

Even when I was a Christian myself, I warned people about the weirdness of trying to impose religious based laws. I asked them if they read all those 600 plus commandments and adhere strictly to them. (Check AJ Jacobs, *The Year of Living Biblically*) No matter how insane you are, you probably won’t be able to comply and thus will be in danger when they move the goalposts to something even more Iron Age. First they came for….

[@sageex3931]

Facts

[@tankerbruja]

They don't want to just throw the sex offenders in prison. The document also calls for child sex offenders, i.e: lgbt ppl in public spaces, or teachers teaching sex ed to minors, to be put on death row. see edit. edit for posterity: death row under project 2025 will also have little to no waiting period once convicted.

[@costelinha1867]

Meanwhile the only sex offenders they won't throw there, are the countless pedophile christian/catholic priests out there, you know, REAL SEX OFFENDERS?!

[@ivorminecraftstorymode]

holy fucking shit.

[@nerdetcurieuse]

That's one cute little take on "religious freedom".

[@drift7rs]

yup. as a transgender person, my mere EXISTENCE will be made illegal. i fucking hate life

[@user-wi9hv2pb2q]

but not Actual offenders like felon dump. because now those victims can be termed jezebels and child brides.

[@flyingdart9819]

I thought America beat the Nazis in 1945.

[@icantcomeupwithnames469]

Nope, we embraced them as defenders of capitalism.

[@Deridus]

Well, we defeated their government. The problem is after a while you start to resemble your enemies through no fault of your own.

[@Spyderinagourd]

Operation paperclip my guy look into it

[@Deridus]

@@flyingdart9819 lol. KZbin deleted my comment on this.

[@sassylittleprophet]

As Steve Rogers said, "They're in the building."

[@RIP_Texpert]

the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" and Jefferson wrote about the "wall of separation between church and state" to make laws based on religion isn't very conservative of them now is it

[@Adrak-Hiano]

That's not even conservative, that's regressive.

[@dengar96]

You just said the same word twice

[@darkstarr984]

@@dengar96Less extreme conservatives would want to stop further changes, not change things dramatically to make them less free than a century ago.

[@xXEGPXx]

@@darkstarr984 There is no such thing, all conservatives are violent, bloodthirsty, extremists who want nothing more than to make the USA into an all white, all straight, male run theocracy.

[@christopheriman4921]

@@darkstarr984 If you want to stop further changes then you need to know what changes you are trying to stop otherwise you end up with a completely disfunctional way of implementing policy, which ironically is change, as such they are always regressive because they see current trends and try to regress those trends.

[@thedude9941]

Conservatism is regressive in nature, seeing as the whole concept of conservatism is maintaining status quo.

[@electrofonickitty823]

There is also discrimination against the learning disabled community as well. Kids with disabilities will be put back into a room and shutter the special education programs as well within gutting the education areas. It would shutter programs that helped me as a kid. I am worried because special education is not a choice, the limitations are now placed on IEP (Independent Education Program). I had to explain it, and also the problem with private schools, special needs kids suffer worse because their needs are ignored.

[@Deerjason]

Sorry, these kids are viewed as “sinful” by republicans in a similar manner as those who were born as lbg. If you are not a perfectly born Christian, sorry bud, it’s your problem. Blame the Bible and god; if only more Christians realize that the Bible was written thousands of years ago and would be completely different if Jesus was alive today. If god really viewed being gay as sinful, then why the heck did he born gay people in the first place!? It is clear that the Bible had a lot of human influence instead of direct translations of Jesus.

[@badpiggies988]

It’s only a matter of time before they decide that we neurodivergents ourselves need to go and make a serious attempt at it

[@ShinyGolduck5]

Right also disabled adults both mentally and physically will be severely affected.

[@electrofonickitty823]

I don't want to go back to those days we had with Willowbrook, it took a journalist and doctors to break that cycle. And yet there are people who want us to go back to that hell? What do they hope to accomplish? Project 2025 is going basically kill what accomplishments that were achieved

[@CubicApocalypse128]

@@badpiggies988 When they get tired of killing rainbows, they're coming for the spectrum.

[@Account81658]

I'm so glad they published their evil masterplan. And that people are talking about it!

[@Colddirector]

Yeah as scary as this is, they definitely got overconfident and it’s backfiring pretty hard.

[@katyungodly]

And this is just what they're comfortable saying in the open! Imagine what they say behind closed doors!

[@elainelouve]

​@@Colddirector it might be a plot to get people accept less drastic changes. Like often happens in politics: a party says they want to eliminate modern art. People get outraged. Party seems to listen, and they'll only cut some financing from art institutions. If they went with "we'll cut financing from art institutions" to start with, that would cause outrage, but if they propose something wild first, people are easier satisfied with the "lesser evil".

[@Colddirector]

@@elainelouve I don’t think that is the case here. Vance is tanking trumps campaign pretty hard, and if this was a long con I think they’d choose someone who knew when to stay quiet like Pence.

[@Account81658]

@@katyungodly Shortly before you said this some training videos of theirs were leaked. I saw some of them, it's vile

[@kinsumandal2467]

Religion used to be one of the most terrifying thing, looks like it's going back to it's prime with project 2025.

[@JesusChristDenton_7]

They were just waiting for the right moment to Crusade.

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

They are Preparing for another Crusade to Wipe out Other Religions, LGBTQ+ and Atheism from America in the name of Jesus 💀

[@someguy9370]

They want to stop sex ed in the name of children, but ignorance creates vulnerability. Education gives protection against predators.

[@ceoofthefluffkhonesship]

no wonder why they worship Trump who’s friends with the creator of Epstein Island

[@RebeccaOre]

Acquaintance of mine in rural Virginia did home education to pregnant teens. Most of them if not all of them were from hyper religious families who taught girls to be submissive except for that.

[@cl5470]

The men at the top of this movement are well aware of that. There is a reason so many conservative men end up having sexual abuse scandals.

[@headphonesaxolotl]

If they want to lower teen pregancy rates (and indirectly make more people wait until marriage) not doing sex ed seems counterproductive to say the least.

[@rhokesh4391]

@@cl5470 Yup. The people making those laws are the predators.

[@CraftingMenace]

Ah 2025. The ultimate example of "We're opressed" while stomping on everyone else. Did I have to say this? No, but a comment will help the video.

[@riseofdarkleela]

Lol, same with my comment (and this reply as well tbh)

[@barbaralepping5886]

In comparison with their glory days they are opressed. They are scared they have lost religious and cultural hegenomy and lashing out, because the extremists are incapable of changing.

[@roland228]

In the Metal Gear: Revengeance game, its libertarian villain Senator Armstrong rants about how he plans on creating a land of the truly free. His major project is to kidnap children and turn them into cyborg slave soldiers, making it clear that one freedom he wants is freedom to oppress.

[@Koifin3]

Lmao there is no “in comparison”, they are objectively not oppressed and probably never will be.

[@MugenHeadNinja]

This is entirely the whole M.O. of Abrahamic faiths, they all have an inherent persecution complex despite being the most widely practiced religions in the world for hundreds upon hundreds of years. These peoples haven't been truly oppressed since the Roman Empire reigned before the split and establishment of Byzantium.

[@HortenseCraneback]

I have always been an atheist, I think due to growing up in a non-religious family and having non-religious relatives, and because I've always wanted to know about the proof of existence of things. I've never hated anyone for having religious beliefs where I have none, but it baffles me that some atheists are threatened just because of their lack of belief. I think anyone can believe in whatever they want, and we atheists have as much right not to believe, because it's not wrong to not believe, and neither is it wrong to believe. And I've been hearing many atheists being questioned "if you're atheist then what's stopping you from committing r*pe and murder?" This isn't what being atheist even means, and you don't have to be religious to know right from wrong.

[@julianstone1192]

You respond with “so the only reason you don’t r*** and murder is because your afraid of being punished?

[@stylesrj]

@@julianstone1192 To be fair, isn't that the motivation for a lot of people? At least in the murder part? Because there are those who wish they could cause pain to someone in traffic or in a line or spouting hatred online... but the consequences of doing that make it not worth carrying out... Which is why you have criminal organisations doing stuff like killing people to check if a gun is loaded... because they don't fear punishment. And some of these folks are highly religious too yet they don't fear punishment from their supposed higher authority...

[@julianstone1192]

@@stylesrj Unfortunately yeah there are probably a lot of people like that, but as you said even if there religious they do some mental gymnastics to avoid it

[@PeteOtton]

Well if they start getting their 2025/project47 through maybe a little unaliving of its proponents is in order, after all Jefferson said the tree of Democracy requires regular watering with blood.

[@omahabrowneyes]

Yeah ngl, it's weirder if religious ppl say their God is stopping them from doing despicable acts, because it means that their own morals don't stop them, it's only because their God wishes it

[@jensmoons]

My mother spent my entire childhood telling me I would never be allowed to move out. She has spent my adulthood trying to sabotage my life to get me to move back in with her. She basically wants me to wait on her hand and foot. I know that the reason she supports Trump is because she believes he will make it so I can’t afford to live on my own. But the thing she keeps forgetting is that if we go back on civil rights as far as she thinks is needed to get me back home with her, she wouldn’t have the right to force me home. My father would be in charge of me. She hates him and he would do the opposite of what she wanted just to piss her off.

[@brentwalker8596]

As an atheist guess I''ll be drinking in the "Non-Christian" fountain.

[@HungryWarden]

Hope you don’t die of lead poisoning while the Christians walk away unscathed.

[@stylesrj]

I doubt they'll put any budget into making separate fountains. Or bathrooms. Because they'll be using all that plumbing money hiring folks to check for suspicious bulges outside of women's restrooms.

[@Deerjason]

Yeah, and there’s no way to convince them otherwise because if they think something is a “sin”, like being anything other than a Christian, it’s final since they believe that’s what god wants.

[@EggdogGuy]

same. guess im going on the "non-christian" seats at the back of the bus as well

[@stylesrj]

@@EggdogGuy Assuming that they haven't got rid of all the buses because everyone should have a car or something?

[@gloriousgal9958]

All of these things suffocate religious people too, because promoting one religion over another, it would force people to practice a religion not of their own or that goes against theirs. That directly goes against constitutional rights of EVERY person! Will lead to more discrimination of other religions and atheists.

[@thedude9941]

If you read the project 2025 contract part of it is doing away with denominations, and having one state church like Christian Nationalism promotes. This means churches would not just be able to teach whatever they want like currently, and these people from what I understand don't even want regular people to be allowed to read the Bible. So nobody is winning here except for big businesses and the government.

[@riseofdarkleela]

I found this stuff suffocating as a Christian too, and it was rearing its ugly head as early as the 1980s if you went to an evangelical church. (In my case Assemblies of God)

[@darkstarr984]

What’s worse is the realization this isn’t even the beginning of the US government undermining the first amendment…

[@Parrot5884]

And what the Christians who vote for this don't seem to realise is that _their_ beliefs will also be constrained. If you're a Christian who doesn't share the very specific interpretation of the bible that the government does, you're also fucked. The penny will drop at some point, but only when it's too late. It'll be the post Roe v Wade "I'm prolife so I voted prolife but now I'm dying from my pregnancy and can't get an abortion, who would've seen this coming???" stuff all over again.

[@AlbinoMothDragon]

This is likely done in this way to cause religious rebellion against the Christians, so that they can say "hey, look at how they're acting, we need some emergency powers to control these people" and then enforcing their authoritarian goals with said emergency powers.

[@monikalovescola2101]

I'm a christian but even I agree that the church and state should remain separate. it never ends well.

[@Leith_Crowther]

I’m happy to stick with you long enough to accomplish a thing we both agree is good, and then we can argue about the god thing later. Or perhaps even simultaneously.

[@Pokejas]

I live in Greece and the good (both in economic and social matters) that church-state unification have brought cannot be understated

[@jamesbest9038]

​@@Pokejas thought you're voting for Trump. Is he running for president of Greece too?

[@Colddirector]

I mean you should. The thing with the church being the state is what if they decide your sect is bad? These people are blatant power grabbers, any sense of ecumenism will fly out the window once their hold is solidified. If you’re not 100% with them you are the enemy.

[@Pokejas]

@@jamesbest9038 If you don't know don't talk, I have American citizenship since my mother was born there.

[@TimothyJCraft79]

Drew….I’m loving your work and I’m incredibly grateful for your work to protect future LGBTQ+ peoples individual freedoms. You are awesome. Thank you so much for everything that you do!!!!

[@SaurianStudios1207]

Being religious in the 21st century is starting to feel out of place, especially with the technological, scientific, and social advances, not to mention morality, diversity, and people changing to become more inclusive. What project 2025 is doing is not only ridiculous as it violates the freedom of religion (or lack of religion), but it will cause more division and regression, something that i do not want for this country or world.

[@Shark-pj8in]

Just ask yourself what religion has done to people.

[@SaurianStudios1207]

@@Shark-pj8in Lot of both good and awful things, it is simply a complicated construct that can bring people together or divide and destroy people.

[@dumby2175]

Yeah, especially since every single time science proves something wrong about religion it automatically is a metaphor

[@Shark-pj8in]

@@dumby2175 lol fr like Noah’s ark or even Adam and Eve which is still apparently debated. Also things like hell in the Bible aren’t actually fire and pain, it’s a metaphor.(Ik that last one is not related but everything is like a metaphor lol)

[@s-nooze]

​@@Shark-pj8inreligious fundamentalists don't believe the bible is metaphorical

[@sprinkdesign7170]

"Be afraid. Be very afraid."

[@DanielSanchez-wv2lg]

Love your play on words, reminds me of them “angelical creatures saying , be not afraid “ hahahahah my religious trauma

[@nerdetcurieuse]

Wendesday Addams reference. Got it ;)

[@TheJonathanNewton]

Don’t be afraid. Exercise your rights to vote and protest and do not be intimidated by those who try to take tour rights away.

[@thedude0000]

I downloaded the whole thing and spent several weeks reading through it. That was two months ago.... *i'm still in DISBELIEF that they put it in writing*

[@osobaum]

It serves them in that it can be used to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. And the longer this conflict brews the more the document will serve it's purpose.

[@alexs6746]

It’s 900 fucking pages. The people voting for it don’t have that kind of patience. It’s like the terms and conditions

[@cobrasys]

Now remember that Project 2025 is what they felt _comfortable putting in writing_ ... imagine what was left unsaid/unwritten.

[@WaterKirby1994]

I finished it in July & I don't want to live in Airstrip One. Orwell's 1984 is a must read as well in addition to the 900+ Page Plan.

[@justaalien7086]

Read the first page and the four pillars of Project 2025 on their website about a month ago, legit thought it was a joke just how extreme and wild some of the plans were. Then I realized that this is real, now I'm terrified. 1984 type shit fr.

[@vonneely1977]

I miss the old days when Hydra was only interested in hijacking helicarriers and not entire governments.

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

And We had Captain America to defend America from Policies like this, Sad Cap Retired......

[@costelinha1867]

Remember when they say "freedom to pray", what they really mean is "freedom to stop believers of OTHER RELIGIONS FROM PRAYING".

[@Colddirector]

All you have to see to know what they mean by “freedom to pray” is how they react when satanic monuments go up.

[@nerdetcurieuse]

@@Colddirector Or muslims, lol. Or wiccans...

[@ceoofthefluffkhonesship]

@@nerdetcurieuseor Pagans

[@fishytishy5953]

So they say it is absolutely essential that families have the freedom to choose what school to go to, but simultaneously, women should not have the freedom to make decisions decisions about their own body. Right...that makes total sense.

[@CurtisRooney]

Worth remembering, this is from the party whose agenda also includes abolition of the Dept of Education, and potentially, the end of "public schools" as an institution. Brother-in-Law's a teacher, said the "choice" of schools would become a matter of, "Is there one nearby which our hypothetical family's credit, tax bracket, and overall finances, are good enough to send the boys to? If not, then the only education will be found at a job, at a parent's knee, and at some sunday school somewhere."

[@alexrogers777]

@@CurtisRooney "If not, then the only education will be found at a job, at a parent's knee, **and at some sunday school somewhere.**"" That's the ultimate goal, make all other options shit so they can force kids into religious "schools" without having to lift a finger

[@Darca1n]

Oh they completely support the right for choice. Ya know, as long as it's the kind of choice creepy republicans want. If it's choices they don't like then that's clearly a problem they need to stamp out, make illegal, demonise, etc.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

​@@CurtisRooney And with Red states passing permissive child labor laws, they intend to inflate the price of elementary, middle and high schools and then end the vouchers programs.

[@DrgnZip]

Families making decisions in this case means the dads, women and children aren't people and don't get a say in anything.

[@cathyfink5284]

The president of AA is so well spoken; I enjoyed this interview very much! I joined AA in 1988 and some years I’ve been more engaged more than others. This video has me pumped to do more now. Thanks.

[@christianmalone3495]

I'm a proud Christian and I can't for the life of me understand why every one of us doesn't want a secular government that respects people of any faith or none at all. The FFRF is an organization that everyone should support, but should have been obsolete the day the 14th Amendment was held to be incorporated against state governments. Get your government out of my religion, and your religion out of my government.

[@christianmalone3495]

AA obviously falls under that as well when they're standing against government entanglement and trying to privilege religious groups

[@dumby2175]

As a proud non-religious atheist, I couldn't agree with you more.

[@patrickmcelrath4962]

One supreme god with a supreme cosmic death threat is a hell of a drug

[@christianmalone3495]

​@@patrickmcelrath4962 I'm not an Evangelical, I'd agree with you

[@Colddirector]

The “fun” thing is that the inhuman freaks that wrote project 2025 probably hate you as much, if not more than non Christians.

[@darthplagueis13]

The truly idiotic thing about the whole "branding all distributors of porn as sex offenders" is: It really fucking dilutes what someone being a registered sex offender actually means. I mean, you'd flood the registry with millions of people who produced and distributed anything from artistic depictions to consensual pornography, and somewhere in those millions are a few thousand individuals who actually assaulted someone. I don't know about you, but I think the public should probably know whether someone is a child diddler or if they were written up for something that is deemed socially acceptable in every civilized country on earth.

[@julianstone1192]

They already do that with people who take a leak in public

[@entwixed3406]

Casual reminder that there are far more religious sex offenders than there are queer, and trans sex offenders.

[@amazinggrapes3045]

​@@julianstone1192and people who take pictures of themselves

[@loganmedia1142]

Unfortunately it was diluted long ago when they started putting people on the list for various minor and petty offenses.

[@lauriesmyla5376]

How astute of you!! I think you figured it out! Remember some of these fundamental Christian church leaders found guilty of child abuse and molestation!

[@drpallus]

As a Christian, this some of the most bs i have ever seen. They say they uphold Christian values but they dont, not really seeing the love thy neighbours and love your enemies and .... i could probably go on forever but it sickens me to see those amounts of hate from a religion that should be preaching love and peace.

[@christinanicholson1980]

As a Christian it's actually easy to understand- We were soooo filled with Hate that God had to come down here To personally tell us to Love eachother- but we still suck so bad He wants to kill Himself

[@alexrogers777]

I agree with you and I'm glad you realize the insanity of it but at what point does this start representing actual christian values? 99% of all elected republicans in congress are christian and at least 82% of republican voters are christian according to Pew research. Project 2025 is what a majority of American christians want, it seems like a no true Scotsman fallacy to say these aren't real christian values

[@aetherkid]

Your religion has eternal punishment for thought crimes and slavery. It's not as "love and peace" as you think it is. Historically, Project 2025 is more Christian than you are.

[@Deerjason]

U clearly are not a devout Christian 😂. You have to interpret the Bible literally instead of realizing that the Bible was written thousands of years ago and had a lot of human prejudices instead of being an exact interpretation of Jesus.

[@christinanicholson1980]

@@Deerjason your Clearly not a Follower of Christ if you think you need to read the bible to be a Christian. Only the truly simple minded believe reading the Bible makes you a Christian .. anyone can say Jesus died for them... Without understanding that the Spirit of Christ lives in us ALL -do you need to be "Commanded" to Love?

[@RayCamacho-m2e]

One thing is for sure. If businesses deny services because a customer's beliefs do not line up with theirs, that will not go over well very quickly.

[@seanmiller6747]

People who vote for this would all have their lives negatively impacted by this policy. That is the message that needs to be spread. Your idea of a "Christian nation" is not where this madness ends.

[@aetherkid]

Conservatives love when they suffer. Their whole religious and sociopolitical worldview is built on being miserable then whining about how it justifies being a bully. If you tell them this will make their life worse, you might make more Republicans vote for it.

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

This is terrifying. This is a supervillian plot you'd see on The Boys. Vote them out this November

[@chemquests]

Agree but please remember these ideas will linger long after the election. Many of these concepts were articulated back during the Wilson administration.

[@Evan-k]

Voting won't do anything, both parties are one and the same

[@kel7444]

As a Christian, project 2025 is totally ungodly to me. To me, The entire point is that God wanted us to have the right to choose our beliefs! I am sorry to everyone on behalf of Christians. It’s so shameful

[@aglassofmilk5779]

First commandment

[@chloew925]

​@aglassofmilk5779 The 1st Commandment can also be read to imply that other gods exist.

[@alexs6746]

@@aglassofmilk5779free will

[@damianjblack]

​@@chloew925 plus the mosaic law was for Jews not Christians

[@RebeccaOre]

They're not Christians.

[@Recasual-n6u]

My college professor gives extra credit if any student joins her bible study. It’s not like she is forcing, but she keeps repeating that there is no extra credit in the class. On the other side, she says that students can get additional credit by joining her bible study, and I feel like it’s unfair to other students. ❤

[@tealkerberus748]

Sounds like time to join her bible study group and start reading aloud from the bits of the bible she'd prefer you didn't read aloud. Reading the bible is well known to be a leading cause of atheism. After that, taking it to college admin would be the next step. What she's doing sounds illegal.

[@karenkalweit6018]

Don’t forget disabled people when it comes to the discrimination.

[@stacyrosa6672]

Yes! Trump believes that people who are not cognitively or physically able to care for themselves, should just be "allowed" to die. This is a move straight out of the Nazi playbook.

[@sageex3931]

Yep

[@Hugh3rd]

I have Cerebral Palsy so not sure what they would do to me!!

[@ceoofthefluffkhonesship]

And farmers too

[@amazinggrapes3045]

​@@Hugh3rdtake away any disability income, food stamps and health insurance :(

[@sherlockholmes6990]

I've heard that the Project 2025 documents are easier to understand in their original 1930's German.

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

What specific item do you object to? State one specific policy stated in this project.

[@user-some_failure]

@@Theo_Skeptomai the obliteration of my rights, duh (also the destruction of the administrative state which means mf's can start selling lead bug burgers and shit and also banning anything vaugly sexual)

[@gahelo]

​@@Theo_Skeptomai this is literal clerical fascism

[@EmeraldCraft0]

​@@Theo_Skeptomaiif I have to talk about only one it'd be the ban on pornography. first of all: do you really wanna give the state enough power to rule over what you watch when you aren't hurting or supporting the harm of anyone? if you believe that pornography is sinful and thus harmful then I'll reiterate: do you want to give the state the power to rule according to their own interpretations of religious texts? do you think such a power is waranted? and do you believe that we should take people's freedoms for months over watching pornography? wouldn't that set a precedent for the state to start passing laws about emprisonning over so much stuff according to religion that life would become significantly harder for everyone?

[@tricitymorte1]

​​@@Theo_Skeptomaisee, the problem is that they worded everything in the manifesto to sound appealing, but what these actions would actually do is cause harm to a vast majority of the population. It would take away quality education and dismantle public schools, making it so only the wealthy would be able to afford to send their kids to school. Then, that education would intertwined with the flavor of Christianity the people in charge decide should be taught as fact. It would turn a lot of people in this country into criminals due to things outside of their control, and make millions of Americans homeless and unable to find work due to legalized discrimination. And then the homeless population would be put in prison. California has already been putting their homeless in prison, rather than address the disparity between cost of housing and low wages. Most of their homeless people work. Some work 3 jobs and can't afford a place to live. When they get arrested for being homeless, now you're taking those people out of the workforce, too, and taking otherwise law-abiding citizens and given them a criminal record that will make it even more difficult to get a job or a place to live. A system like this will eventually turn every American into a convicted criminal. Do we want to have our entire populace in prison, being forced to work for no pay?

[@wintra8848]

Nobody expects the American Inquisition

[@AdelTheForsaken]

Truly intelligent people knew this didn't stop at the Salem Witch Trials okay! we knew it wasn't over.

[@aglassofmilk5779]

Lol

[@omahabrowneyes]

Thank goodness they informed us of their presence

[@alexs6746]

@@omahabrowneyeseverybody expects the American inquisition!

[@omahabrowneyes]

@@alexs6746 nobody expected the American inquisition!

[@grimbutfunny714]

“I don’t care about your goddamn religion!”

[@roeliethegoat]

Thank you for covering this! I'm European and the news isn't covering this very much here. Makes sense, not our continent. But as an ex-vangelical that was heavily influenced by the American version of it, this interests me a lot.

[@Andre-zw5kl]

I'm form France and here the media isn't covering this whole project 2025 bs. It's too bad because I'm in a long distance relationship with my girlfriend form the US and I'm invested in her wellbeing

[@roeliethegoat]

@Andre-zw5kl I moved to France recently (originally from The Netherlands). My boyfriend is French. He's always shocked to hear how state and church are so mixed in my country and the US. It's like the French don't even grasp that something like 2025 can be a real thing. The seperation of church and state is one thing that France does very right.

[@Andre-zw5kl]

​​@@roeliethegoatWait what? I always believed that Netherlands it's just a better version of our society. You guys really have an issue with the separation of the church and state? I'm shocked

[@roeliethegoat]

@Andre-zw5kl Yes, we really do. Our law makes it possible to open schools with an ideology. There's many Christian schools and even one affiliated with a a political party. We have 2 Christian political parties, one even banning women to be a member because the Bible.

[@roeliethegoat]

@Andre-zw5kl it took a 7 year legal battle for them to change their policy, since 2013 they allow women. Our law enforces a great freedom of religion. And according to the state that freedom is bigger than any discriminatory laws. There was a preacher not too long a go who blamed gay people for covid and other things. He was sued, but went free because he's allowed to say this under the guise of religious freedom. It's sad.

[@witebatman]

My parents forced me to go to a school where most of the teachers were their church friends, specifically so they could make sure I didn't learn anything "atheist" religion should be a banning factor, not a required one.

[@alexs6746]

I went to a Catholic high school. It was the worst experience of my life and I am now atheist. No child should go through that

[@AW-EV-and-FTM]

I understand your position. However, I think that all religions should be equally covered in social studies courses. That’s what my school did for me and it was helpful in shaping my worldview

[@alexs6746]

@@AW-EV-and-FTM it should be taught from an outside view, it’s part of history, but the teachers should not be pushing it on students

[@AW-EV-and-FTM]

@@alexs6746 yes. I agree. Tell the stories of the Bible (and every other major religious text) but teach it for culture and history not philosophy! That’s my take anyway

[@witebatman]

@@AW-EV-and-FTM teaching religions from a historical, sociological, or anthropological aspect absolutely. Not when they genuinely believe it, and are teaching it as objective truth.

[@3ch1dna07]

Besides freedom OF religion, we need freedom FROM religion. No one religious group should be allowed to write laws. IMO Edit: An example of a religion writing a law: attempting to ban trans and gay people because "it's against your religion." WTF cares? Your religion doesn't get to determine who has rights. Simply being an American citizen should guarantee those rights.

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

Is there a religious group that is allowed to write laws currently?

[@Im_The_Immortal_Snail]

​@Theo_Skeptomai bro the only reason abortion is banned in some states is literally religion.

[@3ch1dna07]

@@Theo_Skeptomai Project 2025 is literally a "Christian" group trying to write laws for EVERYONE

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

No one religious group should be allowed to write laws? So do you mean religious churches? If so, what laws and how are they writing such laws? And if you mean religious people in general aren't allowed to write laws, then you are infringing on their freedom of religion.

[@_Sloppyham]

@@xx_amongus_xx6987I believe they mean writing laws for religious reasoning

[@Taylor-vz4ot]

Thank you! The FIRST person I've seen talking about this!

[@simonwillover4175]

It's the attack on children / teenagers once again. Agh, why do some people hate effective education so much? I know a lot of highschoolers joke about school being like a prison, but some of these proposals actually make school comparable to a prison. Come on man!

[@stylesrj]

I think it's an American thing. Schools in the US seem to be designed as prisons at least whenever I see them on TV. Here in Australia I can't imagine metal detectors being at the entrances to school grounds...

[@BoecifusJones24]

It's a long con. They take funding from education and add rules that make it really difficult for the teachers (like increasing class sizes), then they get to scream "look how public school is failing! ", then they hand out vouchers and discounts for private (religious) schools that are free to teach, or NOT teach, anything they want.

[@avsystem3142]

Knowledge is the enemy of religion.

[@cl5470]

They hate education for several reasons. Educated people tend to vote democrat, aren't happy with jobs of servitude to the rich and they also tend to become athiest/agnositc. Basically, people who are educated are harder to manipulate, subjegate, and control.

[@theumbreon1.0]

stupid people are easyer to lie to and trick

[@KeldonA]

It's batshit crazy that this doesn't turn enough people away from Trump and the current nutjobs in the Republican party advocating for this.

[@saada2102]

Trump distance itself and criticized it

[@dmsdad6866]

Did Trump or anyone paid by Trump concoct Project 2025? Sincerely. I haven't found the connection besides a conservative think tank put ideas down in a 900+ page document. If you know of the Trump connection, I could really use that

[@crisdekker8223]

@@saada2102 There's no good reason to believe him on that.

[@AC-lq4zw]

Trump publicly disavowed it. regardless of how you feel about him, claims that trump supports project 2025 are dishonest.

[@Blankphotograph5799]

​@@saada2102 and in his rallies he promises a number of the ideas presented in project 2025. So excuse us if we don't believe him. You can say all day you don't back something and still back it by your actions and words.

[@1cr19]

I’m a transgender atheist, sex educator and musician. My family came here on the Mayflower. They’re talking about banning people like me from public spaces and even killing me for thought crimes. Everything I am is anathema to their beliefs, and I have never been represented in our government nor do I feel safe in this country.

[@axuranna]

they arent your family

[@Andre-zw5kl]

Feel sorry for you mate. You should try to get in touch with a community for at least help you feel included into a social group. That's the least you deserve and believe me I know how frustrated you are from feeling like everyone's against you

[@Boneless_Wolf]

​@La_Plata-u2f what an odd way to admit you don't care about human rights

[@lucyferos205]

​@La_Plata-u2fThanks for admitting that you're only interested in hurting innocent people.

[@lil_mocha3772]

@La_Plata-u2f weirdo

[@elseby]

I don't understand how even Republicans can be comfortable with this happening. Giving the president the ability to choose the Federal labor force is the opposite of what America is.

[@headphonesaxolotl]

The Republican party has changed. Most of the non-radicals left because they couldn't tolerate Trump and the MAGA crowd.

[@axuranna]

forgot to add how it also effects people without kids

[@tricitymorte1]

Yeah, I'm 39, no kids, and about to be surgically sterilized due to reproductive issues that leave me in agony and unable to work. But they don't care about that part. They just see a woman of childbearing age with no children and lose their fucking minds over it.

[@alexrogers777]

@@tricitymorte1 It's a scary time but it is funny to think that they triggered over the mere idea of someone like you simply existing

[@darkstarr984]

@@alexrogers777They’re too small-brained to understand infertility exists at all.

[@psych3verse]

⁠@@tricitymorte1this is insane and so hilarious. out of everything they couldve freaked out about it had to be a female with no kids 💀

[@AdelTheForsaken]

​@@psych3verseyou can't control a woman that does not have liabilities...

[@yonosukemihata8270]

Project 2025 is actually great because it has made me 110% sure that I'm absolutely justified in my discomfort with the people who peddle this kind of ideology. I've tried to stay "centrist" and "open minded" about policy in the past but that becomes difficult when the conservative movement is writing up a document that, if used as a basis for passing law, could directly lead to my own suffering, discrimination, or, in the worst case, death.

[@Nichrysalis]

For being written by a think tank, it's not thought out. The cruelty is the point.

[@Deerjason]

It’s because of religion; since republicans feel that is what god wants, they refuse to be open minded because they believe they will be rewarded in the afterlife. Let’s face it, democrats and republicans is not a battle of politics, it’s a battle of religion. The USA is more polarized than ever simply because there are less devout “strictly by the thousands of years old Bible” Christians than before.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

The sloppiness and vagueness are also the point; vague laws give them even greater freedom to interpret and bend them however they want, and change that interpretation at their whim. That's why vague laws are usually not allowed to be enacted.

[@Ajattaro]

Thanks for Blinkist discount! This was just in time, since I wanted to have it again. It was a free service back in 2018 RIP

[@AmberyTear]

It targets all human freedom, dignity and safety. Even if someone is Christian, this would harm them.

[@TheJonathanNewton]

As a Christian, I second this.

[@headphonesaxolotl]

Christian nationalism isn't really Christian so much as it is "only I am correct" nationalism. Even the Reconquista movement (a movement trying to bring the Presbyterian Church USA back in line with Biblical teachings and avoiding over-liberalising it) would likely face opposition in a Project 2025 world if, say, they weren't doing the exact things those in charge wanted.

[@Duskbound]

So glad more attention is being drawn to this plot

[@PariahPsypomp6775]

P2025 is to LWrs what Satanic Lizard Conspiracies and Flat Earth are to RWrs.

[@Abcde7213]

Hi Drew. After hearing yet another sermon after attending a Christian funeral I’ve been thinking about how my family would likely default to a religious service apon my atheist death. I would hate to have my demise turned into another warning about knowing god before your death and have been thinking about what might be the alternative. What kind of atheist message could be shared at my funeral that could still give my family comfort. lol. Like don’t worry he’s not in hell! It’s all made up “what does an atheist funeral look like? I think it would be a very interesting topic and would love to possibly see a video from you about this in the future

[@_Sloppyham]

An atheistic funeral is just a funeral with the lack of religious undertones. It’s a time to reflect on the life of the person, who they were, and the (hopefully) good deeds they have done for other and the world at large. It is also a time to reflect on ourselves, as this is our one and only life. For the person being lowered into the ground lived life how they wanted to, with few regrets. Will we do the same? Have we been living with few regrets? When death comes for us will we cower and look back on our choices with self-loathing? Or will we follow their example, grab death by the balls, and say “I am ready”?

[@Ajhcr]

It’s a celebration. Of your life. Of the person you were. About how people were affected by you. At my atheist funeral, there will be loud dance music. Obnoxious Singing and laughing. Lots of Good food. Telling stories. My people comforting each other. Then, everyone gets a bit of my ashes (if they want) to spread anywhere they have fond memories of me.

[@Mielipuolukka]

There's a lot of options for an atheist funeral. My family is all atheists. At my grandpa's funeral some years back, we had music and speeches and a slideshow of photographs from his life. He was a musician and a lively guy, so there was quite a bit of humour sprinkled in as well. My father gave a speech and talked about the way grandpa's children and grandchildren all resemble him in different ways - basically how he lives on in us. Dad also mentioned in his speech how our indigenous religion would have viewed life and death before christianity took over, which was interesting. I think it was a good choice, because even though my family doesn't share a religion, we do share a culture, and in times of mourning it's important to point out that you're not alone, you've never been.

[@rachaelb9164]

I’m now an atheist but I went to a Christian high school. I consider myself very fortunate that the academics at this school were excellent and I got a good education that prepared me for college. My biology teacher taught everything except evolution (though I think she skimmed over the basic concept of it). I’m very aware that many aren’t as well rounded or even accredited. I graduated in 1994 but I distinctly remember there being a push towards the school voucher system back then as well. I shudder to think what will happen to kids that live in low income areas without a public school system in place. Yeah private schools won’t have bus service or free lunches. They probably don’t even have mandatory reporting of child abuse either. I mean, they believe every child should be raised by the people that conceived them so obviously they don’t care if that child is in an unsafe environment. The whole thing churns my stomach and it’s surprising how many people have never heard of this.

[@riseofdarkleela]

The word “think” in think tank is doing a LOT of heavy lifting!

[@IstasPumaNevada]

They're thinking a lot. It's just that both their goals and their methods are stupendously indefensible. Cruel, selfish, ridiculous, immoral, and unconstitutional. Fascism never makes logical sense. It relies on incessant lies and fearmongering.

[@Liatriss]

Way back before social media was a thing at all, I had a girl ask me in a public high school (as she asked everyone in class) if I believed in God. I told her no. She hounded me asking every question invading my beliefs for the rest of class since we had a free day after a test. Later that month, a guy approached my car, leaned in my window and in a very threatening tone declared "so you dont believe in God? What give you the right?" I had my window down because I lived in the deep south, in high humidity high heat and no working A/C. I luckily had a few people with me in the car, but clearly this dude was waiting for me to say no. In retrospect I said not exactly to which he came back with "so then you think he left and is coming back" to which I replied "sure" before catching sight of that same girl off in the distance behind him. He asked me to let me into my car so he could fight a friend of mine for saying something while we talked. Mind you this kid didn't even live in my part of town nor go to my school. A few days later when I went to my car I hand found it had been vandalized and the catalytic converter stolen clean from the underside. I can't fully connect, but the dots lining up like this was too coincidental. The hate some of these people have for anyone who doesn't share their belief is insane, and in this modern age I only believe this guy would have been praised by these fascist weirdos for approaching a woman in a threatening manner. Of course they'd blame the fact that I am a cat mother and don't have human children or a husband.

[@Evan-k]

That's cults for ya

[@Theoneandonlytster]

As a European we are horrified that people in your country are trying to restore laws, mandates and ideas which we for centuries envied and admired you for rejecting . The United States was for centuries an example of freedom and the separation of powers and most of all church and state this was true from the revolutions of 1848 to the Democratic constitution of Germany a century later . It is with deep sadness that many of us on Europe now see that the light your country was for us ,is starting to fade .

[@RebeccaOre]

It's always had this streak. My maternal family had people who'd fled Europe on both sides of a major religious divide. Kentucky had anti-Catholic riots in the early 19th Century.

[@Theoneandonlytster]

@@RebeccaOre I am aware of said riots in Kentucky, Bloody Monday in particular, but what streak are you alluring to ?

[@karlscher5170]

Was für ein braver, gutgläubiger protektoratsbewohner :)

[@Theoneandonlytster]

@karlscher5170 Was war den damit gemeint ?

[@karlscher5170]

@@Theoneandonlytster Churchill sagte: "The germans are either at your feet or your throat." Und Du bist offensichtlich immer noch auf Bodenhöhe um den Amistiefel zu lecken. Amiland war ein von Anfan an gescheitertes Experiment, dass sich nur soange gehalten hat, weil es einen freien Gratiskontinent plus Resoourcen zu vergeuden hatte.

[@TheDanielsherer]

Thanks for exposing all of this.