How Qatar Became the World's Mediator

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Qatar, known for its wealth from natural gas, has emerged as a key diplomatic mediator. This video explores how Qatar leveraged its resources to become a significant political player, especially in hostage negotiations and global conflicts.
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[@jonathanbelfire]

For those confused about the conversation about Qatar being a Superpower. TLDR's original title was about along the lines of "How Qatar became a global superpower". They have updated the title as many people (including myself) expressed confusion with this take.

[@jonathanbelfire]

@thierryparte2506 I don't think there's ever been 1 definition for global superpower. However, generally what's accepted is. - Superpower - A country that is capable of of being the most powerful country anywhere in the world, economically and militarily. In addition, this country must be able to project that power anywhere in the globe. IE, if the US decides to get involved in Asia, it is the dominant power there. If the US decides to get involved in Europe, it is the most dominant power there. During the cold war, the US and USSR were considered superpowers as both could project military and economic power anywhere in the world and could only be countered by the other. - Regional Power - A country that is the economic and military power in a specific region. Generally they hold huge sway over the nearby countries and are generally only checked by united effort by neighbors or by a global superpower. India, Iran, and Russia are examples of this. They can't really project power but they dominate their local region unless checked by a coalition or a global power. China is still technically at this level but as it's military modernizes it's likely going to be considered a superpower. That being said, different groups have different definitions which is why you get different lists claiming their list accurately portrays the power of nations accurately.

[@nickvdk11]

Qatar is like Petyr Baelish in Game of Thrones. Playing both sides against each other and everyone knows it but cant do anything. In the end if you dont pick a side, a wrong move will have you stabbed in the back and you dont know who

[@dwaynekeenum1916]

@thierryparte2506social economic and military power

[@sayidadam3728]

​@thierryparte2506click bait, common video' name in yt.

[@organizedchaos4559]

yeah being the global mediator doesn't make it a superpower. it can't project it's power

[@DanielGalimidi]

7:43 "Qatar was the first Arab state to establish ties with Israel". I'd love to hear the reasoning for which Egypt, who has had diplomatic ties with Israel since 1979 and Jordan, who has had them since 1994, somehow don't count.

[@jackyex]

I suppose that's because there was no treaty between both like it happened with Egypt and return of the Sinai and Jordan and the give up of the West Bank, but yeah they made quite a big mistake

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@DaemonCcope harder

[@JokeShinet]

I was wondering the same thing too

[@Sarge-at-Large]

Egyptians only recently expressed possibility of signing the Abraham Accords (before the recent Hamas-Israel war)

[@emptyhad2571]

@@DaemonCA lot of Egyptians are Arabs and some aren’t. Egyptian it self is more of a nationality term rather than an ethnic one to describe someone from Egypt or have family from there or are from there themselves.

[@underratedbub]

Stop calling every dang country a superpower!!!

[@lemmerelassal2795]

Mark my words. India will be a super power by 2000! Wait. 2010! Wait. 2020! Wait.

[@EggsBenAddict]

New Zealand is a superpower

[@finn6492]

@@EggsBenAddict of sheep shagging

[@nurulhudavijapurwala4936]

​@@lemmerelassal2795wait 2047

[@hasinabegum1038]

​@@EggsBenAddictNo Singapore is!

[@okman9684]

Tldr making super powers for fun now. Next videos: How Yemen is a pirate super power, 🇾🇪 how mexico is a drug superpower, 🇲🇽 how north Korea is a cyber crime super power 🇰🇵

[@kalizec]

I wish @TLDR would stop abusing the term Superpower. The term is clearly not applicable to Qatar. These days its not even applicable to Russia. Below Superpower there's Great Power. Which criteria Qatar also doesn't meet. So that leaves Qatar as the worlds smallest Regional Power.

[@abhijeetraut6427]

Who according to you are Superpowers currently?

[@kalizec]

@@abhijeetraut6427 I believe that currently only the US meets the criteria of being a Superpower. I would argue that China, India, and the EU have the potential to become a Superpower. And finally I would argue that Russia still has the potential to regain its Superpower status.

[@icephoenix5466]

Just Google the definition :) its about arms capacity.

[@DanielGalimidi]

They really love using that term. I remember when they said Poland would be a superpower just because it was spending more on its military than they used to.

[@kalizec]

@@DanielGalimidi I remember the same. Had a similar discussion at the time.

[@theglobalgambit]

This is a decent start. But please, do not utilise the term 'superpower' to refer to Qatar. It is a small-state with an effective and well polished diplomatic toolkit. But its a 'superpower' - that is a specialist IR term reserved for, well, superpowers - the Russia's, China's, India's, Brazil's, Indonesian's (all these have caveats obviously. Qatar is major 'non-NATO ally' too, but that doesnt then elevate its global reputation and influence. The summary is also quite simplistic in terms of what is motivating Qatar's posturing and positioning. If people are interested, l spoke with the fmr Qatari Defence Attache to the US on the Gaza War and why they Qatar is doing what its doing - we expand significantly on what is outlined here kzbin.info/www/bejne/honNfGBsiJeCoqs

[@jonathanbelfire]

I agree that Qatar shouldn't be classified as a superpower. It's overall influence is pretty small and is most well known for their State TV (Al Jazeera) and for their State Airline (Qatar Airways). They've largely used these to become relevant without being overly offensive. Al Jazeera Arab and Al Jazeera Global are quite different from each other as they cater to different audiences. However, Al Jazeera Arab is banned in many ME countries as it's viewed as a propaganda tool by neighbors. The Hamas situation following the negative attention brought about by the World Cup have largely hurt Qatar's image. I disagree with your assessment of other Superpowers. Currently, I would argue that the US is still the only superpower but China is close to being a superpower itself. A Superpower should have the ability to wield power anywhere in the world at a moment's notice and China isn't there yet. It's economic influence is massive and it's military is growing rapidly. Once it gets over it's economic issues and builds up it's navy/air force more, I would view it as a superpower. India is in the position China was in ~10-15 years ago and could be classified as a strong regional power. Russia and Brazil are also regional powers but perhaps not at the same level as India. I don't think Indonesia could be considered a regional power at this point as it doesn't really exert influence on surrounding territories.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Russia, china, Brazil, India, and Indonesia are not superpowers. By the original meaning only the USA and USSR were, and the USSR is gone.

[@RosscoAW]

"Gaza War," implying it's not objectively and legally an ethnic cleansing of a stateless, occupied people by a colonial settler apartheid. uh huh

[@alex_zetsu]

Yeah a mediator is not a superpower. A mediator has the trust of many countries to facilitate cooperation because they believe the neutral party is well... neutral and won't be biased towards a certain side. A superpower can be a mediator and act as a neutral dialogue facilitator between multiple groups saying "we don't care what you agree on, but if you come to an agreement we will enforce it by economically supporting parties who stick to the agreement and give free weapons to cooperators if someone cheats." A superpower can also directly intervene and just pick a friendly -puppet- leader to support.

[@kiinmaskovich4108]

Semi-accurate as always. Take everything with a grain of salt

[@beowulf2772]

Yeah because it's TLDR, probably got no time for nuance

[@shahrukhkhan8307]

tldr guy is pro israel but can't openly support them anymore.

[@karankapoor2701]

Ironic to have never seen Al Jazeera talk about democratic backsliding in their own home country

[@LeoDas688]

Qatar citizens do not want democracy, and Qatar does not care about expats.

[@nurulhudavijapurwala4936]

Because that's not democracy , it's shariyah , and modified shariyah is batter than democracy. We can differentiate both Sweden and Qatar

[@this_is_3bdo]

People don't breathe democracy People in Qatar don't seem to suffer from their current government so no.one cares really

[@extrapolate]

Because they’re the propaganda arm of the repressive Qatari regime that actively represses lgbtq people and women. They’re also responsible for the thousands of murdered slave workers that were made to work in inhuman conditions to build Qatari blood stadiums and other buildings.

[@krisdaschwab912]

Shhhhhhhhh, you're not supposed to say the quiet part out loud

[@asha8443]

Qatar is not necessarily closer to Europe than the US as stated in the video. Texas (where a lot of LNG comes from) is ~6500 nautical miles from Germany while Qatar is ~6800 nautical miles from Germany.

[@kumbaya69421]

Lol cap

[@Ballardian]

I think perhaps you should have mentioned that the US have 10,000 military personnel in Qatar.

[@marcushen3751]

Sorta comes with being a major non-nato ally mate

[@Ballardian]

@@marcushen3751 Indeed.

[@RosscoAW]

Weird, it's almost like the US has thousands of personnel and permanent commands and infrastructure situated throughout the entirety of the Arabic-language region wherever they can possibly situate such assets. You also don't get to be a NATO ally without accepting the emplacement of the global hegemon's long imperial-military dick inside your borders, that's how global Empire works bud, everybody knows this.

[@TheGnom1]

Qatar also has a lot of softpower via al jazeera.

[@ThePuppetearOfficial]

Check out this awesome video exploring "6 Ways How Qatar And The S.I.Ners Run The World." It's not just informative; it's a downright eye-opener! Trust me, you don't want to miss uncovering the secrets behind Qatar and the S.I.Ners' impact on our world.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmmyhnd-a5unm7s

[@jameshallahan4376]

Qatar? The ones that are harboring Hamas leaders. The missile fired from Yemen are hurting income from Egypt’s Suez Canal, the ones that at least allowed weapons to flow into Gaza

[@slax4884]

Qatar also has the brookings institute to influence policy as well

[@EverettBurger]

Awaiting TLDR's videos about Think Tanks, the consultant class, and the beltway policy makers.

[@nishantsingh7235]

TLDR getting Qatari money 😂🎉

[@toyotaprius79]

Did we just forget the absolute failure and conflict of interest from COP 28?

[@jonnyashley6013]

That's the UAE though... Not Qatar

[@krandeloy]

Also, can not underestimate the leverage that Al Jazeera has built as well. Al Jazeera's unstable symbiosis with it's host nation is a major strategic choice by Qatar that is continuously paying heavy returns in the form of dramatically stable and increased access to information/investigations outside of Qatar. Information is of course not to be underestimated in Diplomatic negotiations.

[@nurulhudavijapurwala4936]

Every terrorist organisation head quarters living in Qatar , hamas one of them and Israel foreign minister Shake hand with Qatari shaikh 😂😂😂😂 it's hypocrisy of them 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@FNA27601]

Nah lots of terrorist organizations are headquartered in Lebanon too specifically armenian and kurdish terror groups.

[@mariolis]

Im from Greece In 2023 we surpassed Qatar in GDP (we had $242 Billion and Qatar $235B) While our population is a lot larger and therefore our per capita GDP is a lot lower , you seriously cannot call either us or Qatar a "superpower"

[@deltadaggertm4011]

Title should be "World's Smallest Bandwagoner"

[@khlaps]

Superpower might be a bit of a stretch 😂

[@mohammed44_]

Super small power half the size of new jersey

[@khlaps]

@@mohammed44_ That’s still small and usually the population and other factors are much more important then land

[@mohammed44_]

@@khlaps population is small, around 2.7 million, and if you count only arabs by blood, it becomes even smaller, talking about less than a million!

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Switzerland, but your neighbours hate you.

[@timoth7paul]

I noticed you did not say that senator mendez was a democrat. Only pointed out who the republicans were. thanks for the bias.

[@theconqueringram5295]

Qatar is gaming the system and they're playing their game very well.

[@Jonas_M_M]

TLDR abuses the term "superpower", it hurts !

[@mikeatfreo2112]

Qatar is hardly a Mediator if all of the stories are true. Qatar appears to have been the financier for Hamas. So, without Qatar's support Hamas could not have committed the October 7 atrocities. In previous similar situations the Israelis have backed off. So, in order to protect its Child, Hamas, Qatar then tries to mediate.

[@mrtickleuk]

"...which reduces transportation costs" (4 mins in approx). Or, "transport costs" as we actually say here in Britain.

[@jonjohns8145]

Hosting Al-Jazerah News Organization Also helps increase Qatar's soft power thanks to that wide spread and Highly respected Media service which has stepped in to provide a counterweight to the Euro/US centric News Organizations like BBC in the Global south.

[@rmmvw]

In reality, Qatar would be greatly threatened by the peace deal that is to be brokered between Saudi and Israel. Trade routes from the East + Global South would be administered through UAE and Saudi through Israel and eventually Europe, which would greatly threaten Iran and Qatar vying for regional power, which is why Hamas attacked in the first place. If there is no conflict to be had, then Qatar loses its standing.

[@toyotaprius79]

Not to omit the close (fossil fuel) ties between UAE and UK

[@rmmvw]

@@toyotaprius79 yes. With the way Qatar is operating, they risk getting discarded by the west because of how they try to play both sides. Pakistan was discarded after helping the Taliban and Turkiye is being discarded by assisting both Ukraine and Russia. When you can't trust your ally, you plan to leave at a moment's notice when possible.

[@houseplant1016]

Indeed, yet our leaders still fall for it. 1 summit without these "altruistic negotatiors" and most problems would be solved.

[@rmmvw]

@@houseplant1016 but the leaders know that in order to ensure they're not putting more money into these other groups that are harmful to our existence, it's better to have them keep funneling money through the West. It's an entirely different game.

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@houseplant1016they are meditators because they are a “neutral” party. The fact they are not devote Allie’s is the point

[@TheJalipa]

Qatar was humiliated when Military Wing of Hamas broke the November Ceasefire by refusing to hand back some of hostages, as had been previously agreed by the Political Wing of Hamas. This inadvertently revealed that although Qatar might have financial leverage over the Political Wing of Hamas, they had none of over the Military Wing. It also demonstrated that Hamas is divided. During the talks it was shown that Egypt had leverage - because they threatened to close some ‘secret’ smuggler tunnels into Gaza, that are actually still open. Because Qatar has lost it’s leverage, is why the subsequent Israel-Hamas talks have taken place in Cario - not in Qatar. It is also why the Houthis started their attacks on then Red Sea…..Israel is not the Houthis Target…Egypt is the Target. Egypt is loosing $ Billions from the Houthis attacks.

[@Davy_Blaze]

Interesting theory.

[@EbonySaints]

See! Now this is a cool theory!

[@Munkie]

But that's just a theory, a game theory!

[@HShango]

Never knew Qatar was involved in DRC and Rwanda diplomacy

[@FNA27601]

Those gulf states have hands in every corner of the world they have crazy soft power through investments

[@thenamesianna]

Weird how the world is ignoring Switzerland when talking about mediation.

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

Qatar is the Singapore of the middle-east

[@mtaufiqn5040]

Isn't that title belongs to kuwait?

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

@@mtaufiqn5040 the Hong Kong of the middle east then

[@rustix3]

7:46 What about Oman? I though that it was kinda goto neutrality country of the Arab World

[@niranjanramjee3037]

Just like Pakistan double crossing friends and foe alike

[@hasinabegum1038]

But Qatar don’t beg for money

[@slax4884]

Video says superpower and title says world mediator why?

[@michaelgreen1515]

It took ages for most of the west and social media to notice. The ignorance of this was deplorable especially after 7 Oct 23 when long after their rise many nations went to talk to the previous powers long after they had passed. Oddly people should have noticed not only their role in Lebanon, but Saudi being pee'd off, but also having a major media station. Oddly one of the biggest shifts was buying the World cup but not backing down on middle eastern values.

[@TheFlyingDogFish]

Superpower? You guys need a dictionary.

[@renaatsenechal]

I have written a uni paper on this subject 3 years ago, so its definitly been going on since before the ukraine war

[@fernbedek6302]

New Switzerland?

[@Roro-tr5yz]

This report is not neutral And very suspicious 🤔

[@extrapolate]

They’re getting those Qatari petro dollars like western universities and push whitewashing the genocidal Qatari regime that funds Islamist terrorist organizations worldwide

[@Uneducatedopinion57]

Short answer : Money

[@zrizzy6958]

I don't understand why countries are signing long term deals on gas, insted of developing renewable energy sources/investing in them.

[@miguel5785]

I thought AlJazeera would also be mentioned as a source of soft power.

[@narvuntien]

Europe is goign to regret those long term contracts because they will no longer need gas that long

[@imonbanerjee2997]

By exploiting migrant labourers

[@ruZsiaNa-C]

I was stationed there.. a nice country but has all kind of organization there.. literally.. even terrorist group 😅

[@jerry3790]

Ah yes, the negotiator

[@Plasfoxxx]

Stop leaving 2 mins for your own ads your channel already has ads on it!

[@niamhturner1451]

even if they werent monetized by youtube there would still be ads if you prefer just use an adblocker

[@laudsrealm188]

A Superpower is a term used to describe a state with a dominant position in the international system and the ability to influence global events and project power on a worldwide scale. This dominance is often characterized by a combination of strong military, economic, technological, and cultural strength. Superpowers are typically capable of influencing or projecting power globally and may have a significant role in international affairs. Now for the last time the US is the ONLY Superpower on earth. Before that it was the US and USSR, before that the British Empire. Can you stop with the clickbaity BS now. I'm not even gonna watch the video for that reason. I came here just to correct this foolishness.

[@zandyzain6241]

Well Played, Qatar

[@bmckelvy5717]

I feel like the word “superpower” is being thrown around a bit liberally nowadays

[@Pureepat97]

Qatar is the new Switzerland

[@hasinabegum1038]

Singapore will be more perfect

[@Pureepat97]

@@hasinabegum1038 Singapore can't even negotiate between ASEAN members. Let alone superpowers😂

[@TripleAAA787]

Anyone saying Qatar is supporting Hamas ,don't know nothing about diplomacy, Qatar also host US military base as well and is a close patron of US. By hosting political wing of Hamas, Qatar is trusted by Hamas to make a peace deal if the need arise in future between Israel and Hamas. If there is situation if Hamas trust no one if they are not hosted by any country, peace deals will be very hard, and US knows it thats why US still supports Qatar's hosting of Hamas. I mean look at the hostage deal last month, it was mediated by Qatar, and if there was no Qatar, it would not have been possible.

[@lemmerelassal2795]

Great. Now make them withdraw the jihadists from the Sahel. Thx.

[@extrapolate]

Exactly. They’re the biggest terrorism supporters in the world. Qataris repressive and hypocritical regime is disgusting.

[@FirstLast-fr4mx]

People bring up the slave like work conditions that are present in Qatar which is a valid concern but they seemingly forget the devices they use to make that comment was made by slave like resources gathering and sweat shop factories.

[@FirstLast-fr4mx]

Whatever Qatar is doing inhumanly the west has already done it to a larger scale. It’s just hypocrisy at the end of the day. Some of you feel jealous when you see arabs living a far higher quality of life.

[@iihamed711]

Selective activism.

[@DingleberryPie]

Pretty sure it's pronounced "cutter".

[@FakenameStevens]

Only Arabs say it like that

[@chillxxx241]

You guys use “Super Power” way too often.

[@mum2jka]

Nah, it was hosting FIFA World Cup 2022. Soccer is the answer to everything international.

[@jamesbackstar8285]

Pite-sized power-house

[@shahafanglister5360]

When talking about Iran's support for hamas and hezbollah its important to remember that they are pretty much proxies of Iran as they get all their funding and weapons from Iran

[@JokeShinet]

Al jazeera is the reason.

[@ThunderApache]

What is that rattling noise?

[@Alperentrg]

I would rather use the word "global player" than "super power"

[@VTh-f5x]

The qataris are writing cheques that their ass will have to cash one day.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

Your a$$ bounced sweety

[@SORENA_FAR]

It is persian gulf

[@ivessandiego1545]

Good vídeo

[@ryanbland4267]

Where the rich bad people live

[@DrFunkman]

Qatar: The answer to the question “What would a modern day slave state look like?”

[@mohamadsufihaziq1692]

While there're a lot of things that Qatar did horrible but I do think we need more mediator countries

[@toyotaprius79]

TLDR is creating a disservice to very often discuss gas/oil/coal reserves of a given country of subject; but very rarely bring up the current climate crisis There's a concerning lack of videos on climate collapse and fossil fuel power in the role of geopolitics

[@jonathanbelfire]

People talk about the climate crisis all the time. The role fossil fuels play is well known by the public at this time and has lead to the public pushing for greener energy. Solar and Wind are the 2 primary energy producing industries pushed atm with Nuclear being a taboo subject for many people. That being said, unless you are advocating countries around the world turn off all their electricity, Oil, Gas, and Coal will still play a role. This will be the case until green energy can overtake population consumption.

[@RosscoAW]

Indeed, failing to acknowledge the extremely outsized impacts that climate change, especially the increasingly prevalent and constant nature of mass climate migrants/refugees (which is a non-trivial and plurality component of most of the last few decades of mass migration, as well as the root cause inciting many armed conflicts in underdeveloped regions leading to additional migration and refugee crises), and especially the *MF'ING EXTREMELY OUTSIZED* impacts that will be occuring in the next 10-20 years is a gross disservice and makes it all the more clear that TLDR is painfully, *painfully* neoliberal in it's worldview/value system.

[@miguel5785]

I think they are still living in the economicist developmentalist growth paradigm. A few months ago they were saying that food prices must continue their neverending decrease despite the current bumps. And they often discuss the importance of growth and the importance of fossil fuels for growth (well sure! but the elephant in the room...)

[@GarethPW]

Difficult to praise Qatar for anything given their total disdain for human rights including LGBT rights. Frankly I don't care if they've been a mediator. If they want to be seen as anything more than a stain on the reputation of our species, they need to focus on themselves first.

[@fj103]

I humbly disagree... They fund these troublesome groups across the world then they have leverage Hardly a neutral country (which is mentioned in this video)

[@thomaschristiansen5133]

Qatar drivers are the worst I have ever had to deal with. They all drive like they are late to a car crash.

[@trueordrue]

I think the US shouldn't just bomb but export their laws as the UK did they didnt only colonize but also gave to colonies the laws and practices to which natives could adjust

[@davidstevens8122]

trueordrue--- The USA is fading, falling, and failing faster than Qatar became wealthy. They are SO close to civil war that this very year, 2024, could be when the chasm opens, after their Supreme Court rules concerning Trump's eligibility to be on the ballots of certain states. America has been a failed democracy for decades and decades, if not from their inception. This year those who bother to vote will decide whether or not they embrace fascism. Do NOT expect good things on the global stage from the USA.

[@hasinabegum1038]

​@@donmabTime has over. Not possible now

[@FirstLast-fr4mx]

Liberals love to force their values down other peoples throats very ironic.

[@mappingshaman5280]

​@@donmabbetter than a 7th political ideology.

[@Farhia007]

Are you stupid or what? First US or western countries has nothing to offer as when it comes the law. No value, no religion, no justice etc. We’re muslim and we have our own religion teaching as the law. FYI. No muslim country will ever follow made up fake law.

[@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp]

A truly awful awful country. I considered working there until I actually visited. A de facto slave state.

[@NoName24-s6i]

I do not like how the presenter keeps labeling Islam as " Extremist" That is ignorant 😒

[@explodingwolfgaming8024]

Commenting 4 algorithm

[@sudaiskhan-y6f]

Qatar❤

[@gigachadsitler]

Qatar 🤮

[@Charlie-ii5rr]

It looks like Qatar is playing its cards quite well. I can't say the same for the Europeans; they've obviously learned nothing.

[@RosscoAW]

Westerners in general just think America is the good guy, capitalism is unironically a good and effective and moral system of organizing everything, and they can just do Galactic Empire shit wherever, whenever, however, and to whomever the fuck they please and will suffer no negative repercussions or consequences for the enforcement and maintenance of their global imperial hegemonic military-industrial apparatus and the socioeconomic-ethnic hierarchy it exists to serve. Utter lack of class consciousness, is the problem.

[@ChinnuWoW]

More countries should be like Qatar! Except for the slave labor part.

[@WilmaRuiz-x7f]

Qatar the shart of the world. Qatar also has the brookings institute to influence policy as well.

[@lawrencefrost9063]

So from being beholden by Russia to being beholden to Islam...Europe is fucked.

[@dwaynekeenum1916]

Most of Russian population is in Europe lol and Finland is just a fake version

[@dwaynekeenum1916]

Lol you were stanning netanyahu you’re a Zionist and not Christian you’re atheist / Jewish which is fine but don’t lie

[@lazyboy9304]

First :D

[@readisgooddewaterkant7890]

congratulations

[@FakenameStevens]

No you weren’t lol

[@BernasLL]

"As well as Palestine and HAMAS". I really feel separating the two is artificial. You don't separate Israel from their far right leaders, China from the CCP, for a reason; it's just never done on broad approaches like this. If you want to deep dive on Palestinian politics, be my guest. But don't change the rules to the game, that's politics not journalism. If you do this, then do it for all anti-democratic governments, or for none at all.

[@mappingshaman5280]

You dont separate china from the CCP or israel from the far right government because they are one entity within another entity. Hamas is a de facto separate entity from palestine. The palestinian authority which is the internationally recognised government of palestine controls the west bank whilst hamas controls gaza. Hamas even fought a war against the palestinian authority to take gaza over. Claiming that hamas and palestine are the same thing, is like claiming iraq invaded syria because of ISIS. It simply isn't logical. In both cases we are talking about separate entities which fought the government before deciding to attack another nation.

[@callmefleet]

Hamas doesn't run all of Palestine brother

[@BernasLL]

@@callmefleet So, we agree it runs a big part of Palestine. So, stating Palestine separately as if it was not partly ruled by HAMAS is misinfo? Usually, news outlets say "Palestine Authority and HAMAS". This particular choice makes sense, since HAMAS was ousted from that body, though it remains in close contact. At most, it'd be truthful to say "Palestinian West Bank Authorities and HAMAS".

[@BernasLL]

@@mappingshaman5280 That's right. One entity within another entity. HAMAS is an entity within Palestine, its government controls a huge chunk of it. It'd be like saying "North Korea and Korea". Except HAMAS is represented by the Palestinian flag as well, so even more messy. No one is claiming they're the same thing. If a complex situation requires more complex wording, then it should still be CORRECT wording. They're surely not SEPARATE things, to be named separately in the same category. If you're talking about "logical", then you must understand this logic. A - B = B is only true if A is nothing. In the "Palestine = Palestine - HAMAS" formula, HAMAS is not nothing or negligible. It controlled the whole of Gaza before retaliations, ruled a huge part of palestinians resources, people and terrain to do what it wanted. And, as is often in stable authocratic regimes, the Gazan people were fine enough with it as long as they were allowed happy lives. Why we helped make it stable as it launched deranged attacks on civilians is now beyond me. We have seen so much horror from the Kissinger / Cheney types, that we even cannot fathom letting horror regimes fail, for humanitarian sakes.

[@mappingshaman5280]

@BernasLL no the palestinian government does not control gaza. And isis controlled large parts of Iraq, you would never say "Iraq invaded syria" you would say "ISIS invaded Syria." Hamas is not an entity within another entity because unlike the ccp or the Israeli far right, they are in direct opposition to the palestinian government. Everything you have said applies to Iraq and isis yet nobody claims Iraq invaded syria, and it would be equally silly to claim Palestine invaded Israel because just like in Iraq and isis, the terrorist organisation and the government are not in cahoots.

[@KhalidAun1]

Qatar always brings everyone together ❤️🇶🇦🇶🇦

[@extrapolate]

Especially jihadists and their petro dollars huh? Or slave migrants and inhumane working conditions? LGBTQ people and oppression? They sure love to bring those together

[@VTh-f5x]

Thats why all terror orgs have head office in doha.

[@bluehammer1245]

Like the thousands of migrant worker slaves that died making the Stadiums for the world cup.

[@beowulf2772]

hell nah

[@iihamed711]

@@bluehammer1245not that lie again 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Onwabile-uc8sm]

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