How RAGING was Tauros ACTUALLY? - History of Tauros in Competitive Pokemon

Tauros Remake is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Tauros in competitive Pokemon!
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0:00 - Intro
0:42 - RBY/Gen 1
6:05 - GSC/Gen 2
7:29 - ADV/Gen 3
9:49 - DPP/Gen 4
12:52 - BW/Gen 5
16:10 - XY/Gen 6
17:46 - SM/Gen 7
19:15 - SS/Gen 8
21:05 - Outro
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[@Mr.Sax.]

If Tauros wasn't a Gen1 pokemon there's no way he would be able to learn thunder, blizzard and fire blast

[@dungeonmaster3464]

Furret learns all of those moves too, and I'm pretty sure Slacking learns them.

[@youtubeneedstochange4414]

Yeah, really weird that they gave those moves to so many Pokemon.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

@@youtubeneedstochange4414 normal type privilege. It gets surf and whirlpool too

[@lynxfresh5214]

Many Normal types can summon otherworldly spirit energy (shadow ball) and even use telekinesis (psychic). There's nothing "normal" about them at all!

[@dungeonmaster3464]

@@ultimaterecoil1136 To be fair, Dragonite, Nidoking/queen, and Guarados got them too. It wasn't just normal types.

[@HarveyMeadowlark]

Dragon Types: "man, adding fairy type really nerfed us. Getting nerfed feels terrible" Tauros, literally every generation after the first: "cry me a fcking river"

[@Puki9117]

Did you forget about Gen 3?

[@lynxfresh5214]

Articuno: "I literally got stoned to death after gen 3 yet that overrated fire lizard gets all the support smh!"

[@thecommenter6773]

@@lynxfresh5214 Yea, but apparently after becoming british, articuno got pretty good

[@shellnut8224]

@@lynxfresh5214 Gen 1 articuno was getting stoned to death since gen 1 tbh, it's ok in RBY OU but it wasn't really great until it decided to start drinking tea.

[@baszko6152]

I mean it was pretty deep dive but its still pretty amazing in lower tiers witch is a lot more than many gen 1 pokemon can say. Besiedes as seen i actually got pretty nice thing along the way so it's not forgoten or anything.

[@thejuic3b0i64]

Now Tauros grazes in the meadows, knowing that his time in the spotlight is up. His spends time with his wife and kids now, a truly happy ending.

[@blackmantis1511]

So, Tauros fulfilled the dream of Viral from TTGL then?

[@jju00]

I don't know why, but I imagined Tauros with a Miltank wife and a Bouffulant child.

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@jju00 They should just introduce a new Normal-typed baby calf Pokémon that evolves into either Tauros or Miltank depending on the gender, and with good enough Attack, bulk and Speed for at least a decent LC performance.

[@jju00]

@@cintronproductions9430 Lol :D

[@kabelguy70]

@@cintronproductions9430 Call it Mooby

[@kazuYoshi_]

Pokemon in borderline: "I'm too weak!" Pokemon when they drop to a tier of butterflies and ice types: " *Unlimited power!!!* "

[@user-os6gb9bq5v]

Raptor in uu is a monster

[@sleazymeezy]

@@user-os6gb9bq5v hell with good support it can be great in ou

[@carnage0685]

THE IMPRESSION OF GEN 1 WILL NEVER RETURN. YOU, HAVE LOST.

[@Grongle4]

Unless you’re electivire

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Look at it this way. It was too good for those lower tiers to the point it had to be banned.

[@WowSuchGaming]

The one and ONLY Tauros "Bouffalant stares nervously"

[@DarkSaber22]

for the longest time I thought Bouffalant was an evolution to Tauros before I realized one was a Buffalo lol

[@Gojira_uz]

What? Bouffalant isn't Tauros! Right?

[@Nebula6874]

Surprised no one has replied to your comment yet. Note: I put this comment before I saw the two comments above. Also I love Tauros even though it has a simple design.

[@cintronproductions9430]

Tauros is a domestic bull and Bouffalant is an American bison! They're not meant to be related! XD

[@Duskool]

Still miffed those aren't related via evolution.

[@jg1404]

“I was the king of OU!” -Tauros “Okay grandpa, let’s get you to bed.”- Bouffalant

[@zan7838]

LOL

[@Ryu-qk1kx]

Tauros is the "Back in 'nam" Grandpa

[@ausername3391]

"Back in my day, the crit rate was based on speed and not some gosh darn rng luck!"

[@yaboi5932]

@@ausername3391 Ok grandpa that's great. Why don't you go talk to Uncle Gengar. I'm sure he's got "fond" memories of when shadow ball was physical and not special. Remember to take your dementia pills.

[@Sageknot]

aw, that's a cute interaction

[@snuffysam]

“Body slam couldn’t paralyze normal types in gen 1” “You could skip hyper beam’s recharge turn with a KO” The more I learn about gen 1 the more I think the programmers just transcribed the game’s code from some ancient runes and hoped for the best

[@m_e_nere]

@yossarian yeah but some stuff was just kinda dumb and made things unbalanced

[@m_e_nere]

@O K i never said i wanted them to somehow pull back the games and fix the glitches. All i said is that there were some odd stuff that made the game unbalanced

[@m_e_nere]

@O K i got what you meant man. You didn't have to continue. I have a brain

[@quinn7427]

@O K your argument is "they cant fix everything" and "the game would be unbalanced even without the weird broken glitches that are central to competitive play".. wow

[@stragmar]

That's the plot of YGO kinda

[@acc3209]

Strange how literally a bull with 3 tails has become so iconic

[@louayker4249]

Probably the most naturally looking pokemon ever.

[@Discooom]

He's also got dots on his head

[@mastermystery4020]

If a literal cat pokemon can why not a bull

[@snivyland2878]

a HERO that doesn’t know what protect means there mostly doing there oldest reviews that are two generations Behind I think it’s fine

[@ramdelure]

I have my own Tauros from Pokémon Sun

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

Tauros: Boy I was amazing in gen 1, I hope I can continue to be amazing in gen 2 Gen 2: *special stats split, Skarmory's (and the steel type as a whole) existence, everything has leftovers, Hyper beam nerf* Tauros: Oh dear

[@shadowtitanx3962]

Gen 2 onwards Powercreep: Yeah. Let's replace the Bull with Garchomp, Landorus-T, Keldeo, Greninja, Tapus, UBs, and Dragapult

[@cintronproductions9430]

I was using a Tauros in showdown and I literally named him "Put me in OU", yet the people I was fighting never seemed to care. XD

[@Kisarez]

@@cintronproductions9430 Don't worry, there are those who like shenanigans like those

[@HannibalKantter]

I think it's kind of underrated. I sometimes use kind of gimmick teams, like taking 6 RU tier (or below) Pokemon to OU and try to win games with them, and Tauros is always the MVP of the team.

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

@@HannibalKantter I take mons from PU and ZU and use them in OU and one of them mons usually carry me. Doesn't mean that mon is any good though.

[@trainergold1773]

Gen 1 Tauros: nothing can defeat me, I am inevitable. Opposing Tauros: *Are you questioning my POWER?!!!*

[@shellnut8224]

lax and cloyster give it tons of problems, imo lax is better than tauros since it is so much safer due to Rest and Reflect allowing it to heal up and shrug off damage.

[@sadykdanny]

@@shellnut8224 Tauros is effective because he limits your answers. The speed + crit rate play a huge role in this. Lax is sorely missing this, as such he doesn't threaten as much and can be picked off by faster pokemon in a pinch, whereas Tauros can sweep if given an opportunity. While Lax can reflect + rest to heal up, doing so is a risk considering the high crit rates in RBY, unless used against slower pokemon such as opposing Lax. I wouldn't consider this combination a reliable check/counter to Tauros.

[@shellnut8224]

@@sadykdanny To break Lax with reflect up it takes 2 crits in a row, that is a 1/25 chance which Tauros is not banking on. Furthermore, the ability for lax to pressure stuff without fearing Thunder Wave or any chip at all makes it much more applicable in my opinion. Tauros is bloody good don't get me wrong but I find lax is better due to how much more freely it can come onto the field.

[@sadykdanny]

@@shellnut8224 @Shellnut You're not wrong, Snorlax comes in and out of battle with ease if it is rest/reflect. The only problem is when your opponent is taking advantage of your Lax by burning sleep turns on their Zam or Starmie during opportune moments and safely switching to their Lax, resting up and repeating. You can lose serious momentum against teams that do this, especially when these psychic beasts wake up and terrorize your team after Eggs has long blown up. Not to mention rest/reflect takes 2 moveslots leaving you with either body slam/eq or body slam/ice beam, which ice lax takes advantage of the former and gengar takes advantage of the latter. There are also other tricks like baiting ice beam from ice lax onto your switch to Lapras. God forbid your opponent has both and gets mix up opportunities that get them in for free and start causing trouble. Fortunately, neither are common, but it should be noted. Tauros will not stand for these tactics, however. Get Tauros in for free on a sleep turn and you will be rewarded. With high attack power and speed, most things have to be able to take 2 hits, and that's not including crits or para. Against Snorlax, you get to fish for crit, which gives you a chance to remove an important threat. Everything else can get paralyzed and hacked. There is no other pokemon that can threaten everything in the pokedex like he does, whether it be with crit body slams/hyper beams or its perfect coverage options. If he comes in, someone has to go down. That level of threat is mandatory for a team to function.

[@shellnut8224]

@@sadykdanny I do agree Tauros can definitely deal more damage it gets in, the problem is that it is scared by paralysis and can't heal, so it can't come in as often as Snorlax can which limits how much damage it can do overall. As an example, if there is a paralyzed Chansey at 78%, I can't use Tauros to punish since it just twaves my Tauros and cripples it, but I can punish with lax since I am not crippled by Thunder Wave and can heal up any chip it does for later. It is the ability to bring Snorlax in over the course of the game so much more readily that allows it to have more overall impact on the game in my opinion. Yes, Rest can be punished by the opponent but you can read those punishes and attack them as they come in. It probably comes down to preference, but I prefer a pokemon which is able to have a consistent impact in the early and midgame since it can come in often and do its job and them more rather than a pokemon which gets immediately crippled for the rest of the game when the opponent predicts right and twaves me on the switch. ps: ice beam on snorlax sucks, no reason to use it when everyone and their mother spams cloyser nowadays lol.

[@allenkeettikkal3149]

"It was the worst at being the worst, as it wasn't even bad enough to drop to UU." Usually, that would be a compliment, but for the former OU King, that hurts waaay too much.

[@adammunkhzaya3577]

Being the worst among the good ones is more accurate.

[@AndrewMagnificent]

You know the powercrep hit Tauros hard when he is forced to run Fire Blast with 40 base special attack stat lmao

[@azelfdaboi5265]

It's actually pretty good

[@AndrewMagnificent]

@@azelfdaboi5265 yeah, the sheer force is a blessing

[@The_Vanni]

i think it would help a LOT if they gave mons such as Tauros and Rampardos a boost in special attack so they can better run their ice beams and fire blasts with sheer force, i would rather them have a better mixed attacking stat than some mons that get mixed stats when they will realistically never use it, like why the hell does Crawdaunt get 90 spatk??

[@Wreckbot_]

@@The_Vanni if i had to guess why crawdaunt has a high special attack despite not needing it, it's probably because the physical/special split hadn't happened yet in gen 3 when crawdaunt was introduced and both of its stabs were special

[@ActualTrash8]

You know rampardos sucks when it has the attack of rayquaza but uses its 65 special attack

[@acemerceramv8561]

It's still surprising to me how amazing Tauros was in Gen I. In the sense that he isn't an legendary or anything special, just a normal pokemon

[@jaschabull2365]

Literally.

[@slipknot95maggot]

He most certainly is a legend

[@snarls3760]

@Oxnard Darcy dratini is pseudo js

[@Oscarus4250]

Some "normal" Pokemon like Garchomp and Aegislash went to Ubers, because how dangerous they were. Also some "common" Pokemon were very good in OU for many generations, like Chansey or Tyranitar. The same situation was with Tauros - it was practically the most used and fearsome Pokemon in OU - because of high crit rate, Hyper Beam being OP (and Tauros gets STAB from it), and the fact Fighting-type sucked in Gen 1 (mainly due to lack of good Fighting-type attacks). Only few select Pokemon could defeat him

[@snarls3760]

@@Oscarus4250 garmachomp and tryrantiar are pseudues not reguler mons

[@EdmacZ]

First Tauros video: “Man, I used to be so good.” Remake Tauros: “I may not be OU anymore, but I’m still pretty damn good!”

[@afiaahmed7591]

My buffalo wings I’m eating: *u sure bout that bro?*

[@imagorll]

Hey man if a mon is pretty good in A tier, id say its a good mon

[@fledbeast5783]

Yeah I like how Falseswipe pivoted from talking about how terrible non ou-pokemon were to talking about how good they were in non ou tiers.

[@guildmasterri5995]

his old videos aren't really that accurate and doesn't talk about niche or usage in lower tiers so this is a good step

[@Zekana0]

used a tauros in sun and moon and dear god was he the mvp of my team. practically soloed the elite 4 with just him alone.

[@afiaahmed7591]

Tauros in gen 1 be like: *Hippity Hoppity, OU is now my property*

[@shellnut8224]

lax is better imo

[@nrr620]

"Tralarí tralará ahora OU es de mi propiedad"

[@thecriticalghost4626]

@@shellnut8224 - lax - better XD

[@Lrizu]

@@nrr620 lalalí lalalá agora o OU é minha propriedade

[@BromanderInChief]

The year is 20RBY. Everyone plays Tauros at 2000 ladder levels of perfection. Because of this, the winner of a match depends solely on which Tauros gets the first body slam paralysis on an opposing Pokémon. The fourth move slot metagame has evolved to ridiculous levels due to it being the only remaining factor to decide matches.

[@youtubeneedstochange4414]

The year is 9XXXXXXXXXXXXX. Wynaut with Counter and Mirror Coat has become the only usable Pokemon.

[@aceclover758]

It was one of the many reasons OU gen 1 was just terrible and not fun.

[@shady8045]

ik this is a joke but like this is just pokemon after like a year lol

[@shellnut8224]

The fourth move slot is irrelevant in the Tauros 1v1, Hipmonlee made a program to calculate Tauros 1v1 odds and the optimal line of play every time is bslam->bslam->hbeam unless you are in the opponents Hyper Beam range in which case it is optimal to hbeam.

[@Rodmantis]

I thought RBY was fixed into normal types not being paralyzed by Body Slam

[@wardskidoedels512]

How GOOD was a DOUBLE UPLOAD ACTUALLY?

[@joshuaduran6993]

Very good

[@emojifr...]

people always say this its a "clever" way to get likes when a double upload happens

[@T1MB05L1C3]

Too weak for UU, too good for RU

[@Espeon804]

Gen 8 has made me afraid of hearing the stat-increasing sound effect ever since I accidently activated Weakness Policy and Anger Point.

[@andreivaldez2929]

That wouldn't be that useful sunce Weakness Policy can't get you over the +6 Anger Point puts you at.

[@acemerceramv8561]

@@andreivaldez2929 yeah, if anything it should be Focus Sash

[@roberte5192]

How did your Taurus survived a supereffective move with a crit hit? He would have been ko'ed.

[@dearogabrielxd8566]

That Tauros is max HP man lol

[@silverhetch3383]

@@roberte5192 double battles hit it with the icy breath move or whatever its called - always crits

[@luirromenjivar1390]

Imagine RBY's critical hit mechanics on something like Regieleki with that 200 base speed lmao

[@danielsurvivor1372]

How big that crit rate would be?

[@thisrandomdude2880]

@@danielsurvivor1372 If we consider the 200 base speed of regieleki, and that the formula for crit rate in RBY is X*100/512 for a normal move and X*100/64 on a high crit rate move (i.e Slash, Night Slash, Razor Leaf etc.) where X is the base speed of a pokemon, Regieleki would have a crit rate of 39.0625% with a regular move, and a crit ratio of *312.5 fucking percent on moves with high crit rate meaning THESE MOVES WOULD CRIT ALL THE TIME.* Thankfully for the RBY metagame, Regieleki is faaaaaar away and doesn't have high crit rate moves anyways. A 39% crit rate would still be INSANE though. For comparison, in gen 1, the pokemon with the highest crit rate is Electrode with a 27.34375% crit rate off of a base 140 speed stat.

[@Woofrie]

Persian's Slash and Victreebel's Razor Leaf were already 100% crit

[@thegamingwolf5612]

Crits wouldn't get the damage boost from buffs tho

[@shirshobanerjee7751]

@@thegamingwolf5612 If Regieleki was in the game that wouldn't matter as it doesn't get a way to boost its attacks anyway

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

Tauros got the Pokemon equivalent of blue shelled.

[@NeonWasInUse]

I hate how accurate this is.

[@jaschabull2365]

Lapras: If it makes you feel any better, this blue, shelled pokémon didn't get it so good either.

[@hallowed4570]

Profile pic checks out. Nothing out of order here.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

@@jaschabull2365 Lapras fell all the way to PU by the time of Gen VI. But then Ice types usually don't fair well in competive play.

[@RoyGuyManDude]

It's more of a blue shell > lightning > red shell > bullet bill combo in MKW

[@jonathandarvill8757]

End note: Tauros eventually dropped to untiered thanks to crown tundra power creep but got banned to PUBL in the first wave of quick bans. That’s incredible.

[@BladeTNT2018]

Plus, it currently resides in NU

[@AverageHandle_]

Tauros dropped to untiered? Sure he’s good in NU now but bloody hell that’s rough even if only temporary

[@choreani]

@@AverageHandle_just a part of the tierhopping experience

[@AverageHandle_]

@@choreani definitely tier fell holy

[@neptuniamarina4924]

I really do like giving a lot of older pokemon that fell into the lower tiers a remake, It allows for Foresight into how they worked in the lower tiers. Never liked how old False Swipe just looked at the Pokemons OU career and that's it. If it was absolutely amazing in UU that didn't matter cause it wasn't good in OU. So these vids are welcomed.

[@aceclover758]

Yea and the fact OU is overrated and was a boring meta game (I left at gen 5)

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

OU is a horrible tier anyway

[@neptuniamarina4924]

Guys call it by what it really is nowadays, Ubers 2

[@Blazecap]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6uVd61mhLRrl8k

[@e.t.1947]

UU is my favourite

[@pekorisa]

16:10 *UNFORTUNATELY* "hey there it is" He's becoming sentient

[@gideonantonissen6275]

Its hilarious how he says it at that point since he normally start at the beginning or an generation later.

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

I've seen variations of this exact comment on the past 10 videos alone.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

He's already been sentient. he's alive after all. You mean "self-aware" (which he has also been for a while) Now if the UNFORTUNATELY became self-aware, it'd be saying "Hey, here I am!"

[@sosams]

If you watch today's Hypno video, he says it too but he's not aware.

[@shady8045]

i mean he constantly made jokes about it, also thats a very rude way of wording that btw you are implying he someone isnt a conscious person and like a mindless automaton

[@m0sterious]

The king of gen 1 returns! To show us why he was king, and a great example of power creep.

[@MakoShiruba]

More like importance to not give a Pokemon maxed out all stats.

[@gamingpolice589]

He was fine but he needs some buffs

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Ah, the good old days where a pokemon that was "basically okay" would rise to the top. How far we've strayed.

[@Drakorre]

Tauros Is truly the definition of Power creep

[@shellnut8224]

the changes to gen 1 hbeam are one of the most disappointing changes made since hbeam not recharging on KO's was super interesting and made it a high risk, high reward move which rewards skilled players able to read their opponent.

[@jabarithegoldenlucario8841]

Tauros’s record: A former champion that’s still hitting hard today. He used to rule the world. But as the game grew, he fell. But, he was NEVER done. He has seen a lot of tiers. Some good some bad. He was raging then, and some would say he’s still raging now.

[@brandontan2335]

"You can only get a remake if your consistent between OU and UU" Tauros: Signs can't stop me cause I can't read

[@Fiji_]

I wanna see a remade Venusaur one so bad. I feel like I’ve learned more about it from other videos about it’s competition like Vileplume and Victreebel

[@ethanc.1443]

All the Kanto Starters need remakes, they probably would have 30+ min videos because they have a lot of different roles in almost each generation, a Charizard remake would probably be longer than the Scizor remake

[@shady8045]

i want to see gengar personally, it was kind of insulting that haunter was chosen before a gengar remake even though i liked that episode personally.

[@maromania7]

@@shady8045 the remakes are on a different schedule entirely. he does all his videos on a very regular schedule picked by patrons and subscribers. the remakes come out as EXTRAS done on top of them, every time we get one it's in the middle of the week or on the same day as a main release. Haunter was done because it was new. the remakes are slowly done in the little time he has between working on mainline videos.

[@chaosbreaker657]

@@shady8045 Don't worry. Think of the Haunter video as a hype for the eventual Gengar remake.

[@bullymaguire6388]

@@ethanc.1443 oh how right you were about the Charizard remake.

[@DBZMacky]

That title is very unexpected, but I'm predicting and hoping using other adjectives than "Good" in the title will become the norm after this.

[@jaschabull2365]

I think the norm is for remakes to use different adjectives, as the original video already used "good". Dragonite got "great", after the original "How GOOD was dragonite actually" was released earlier on, for instance. I'm still praying for a comeback of the likes of "champ or chump?" or "king or peon?" anyway.

[@MorganKing95]

@@jaschabull2365 Remember when all the titles were different? We had "Did Charizard actually suck?", "Most consistent starter? (Venusaur)", "Blastoise is not that great?", and "Top tier for every generation? (Starmie)" I get that "How GOOD was X ACTUALLY" is kind of a trademark, but I miss some variety in the titles

[@TypoHouseGames]

@@MorganKing95 it's also an algorithm thing, if all the titles are similar they reccomend each other, the variety in titles made it harder to get views.

[@Sageknot]

Well do i have GOOD news buddy

[@jjc4924]

Man. Tauros has got to be one of the most experimental Pokemons I've ever seen competitively. He started off great in Gen. 1, butchered in Gen. 2 & 3, got back up in Gen. 4 & 5, went down again in Gen. 6 & 7 and than rise back up in Gen. 8. This Pokemon has it's rough. But in the end, it came off pretty decent. Now I wonder how it's Gen. 5 counterpart will do.

[@taiyo_NY]

It was legit top 5 in gen 6 NU and was viable in gen 3 OU.

[@GamerGrovyle]

My understanding of Bouffalant is that it's too much of a Glass Cannon to ever work. Or would that be a glass battering ram?

[@carnage0685]

@@GamerGrovyle 95/95/95 bulk isn't bad.

[@bryanc1772]

@@GamerGrovyle it’s not that bouffantlant is bad but damn that base speed sucks bad

[@dankestranch8738]

Its been NU since gen 4 its not decent

[@rajt9996]

Tauros: Who are you Tauros with an afro: I'm you but funkier

[@IschmarVI]

*uptown funk starts playing*

[@bladewingmcowl5842]

Imagine Tauros with Swords dance or Bulk up and an attack buff to 110 at least, it would've been great in UU and having a small niche in OU at the very least

[@aceclover758]

Swords dance likely wouldve been enough. But any status allfiction can cripple Tauros. IT would likely, this day in OU or UU, be a late game cleaner. Also, many things are as fast or faster now Until gen 5, having a speed of at least 90 was considered awesome. Above that was a bonus so long as your other stats compensated.

[@sayvionwashington1939]

And let it have Quick Attack again. It got it as an event move in Gen 2

[@bladewingmcowl5842]

@@sayvionwashington1939 Imagine Tauros with both Quick attack and Sucker punch, if it learned Quick attack on it's own and learned Sucker punch in Gen 4, it wouldn't struggle against Ghost type Pokémon like Gengar for example and having a priority move to finish off Super dangerous Pokémon with high speed is supremely good like stopping Shell smash Cloyster after it survived with a Focus sash.

[@aceclover758]

@@sayvionwashington1939 Why not extreme speed instead of quick attack?

[@bryanc1772]

Tauros needs a few things still like a secondary STAB , something like Flare Blitz and Shadow claw

[@hirocoldy6023]

Tauros: *MAN*, Gen 8 is such a nice gen! Luxray: Y-Yeah... a very nice g- gen... Also Luxray: *Lays down on the floor while Unwavering Emotions starts playing*

[@larrychilders6599]

Ooof

[@cintronproductions9430]

Lux really, REALLY needs 114 base Speed or something.

[@larrychilders6599]

@@cintronproductions9430 nope base speed 90

[@Puki9117]

The worst part is that Tauros was once good

[@owo4288]

It need a good physical electric type move and better speed.

[@ArxGaming67]

Relentless Charge: If a move that would require a charge knocks out an opponent, that charge is not needed. Sounds like fun.

[@The_Vanni]

That would be awesome, but I don't think gamefreak would do something like this which is a shame

[@bewill5121]

Th rom hack Pokemon Inclement Emerald actually made an ability called Rampage that does this. Of course tauros gets it, and typhlosion also does to spam blast burn to its heart's content

[@takeda6516]

@@The_Vanni >Coalossal

[@The_Vanni]

@@takeda6516 does he have that?

[@bryanc1772]

Anyone remember Cipher Admin Eldes's Tauros in Orre Colosseum? That thing was a monster to check in Pokemon XD along with his Latios and Latias

[@M3rtyville]

and it only knew 3 moves

[@tyranitararmaldo]

@@M3rtyville you mean it only NEEDED 3 moves.

[@Puki9117]

He had an Excecutor too,I don't remember his other Poke but is another RBY OU Poke

[@bryanc1772]

@@Puki9117 Snorlax Gengar and Metagross

[@bryanc1772]

@@tyranitararmaldo Eh Fire Blast could have been useful for Skarmory and Foretress

[@acetrainerben]

Ok I was literally JUST staring at some Tauros in the Isle of Armour and went "hmm y'know maybe I should train one of these guys"

[@SproingBoing]

The poor Raging Bull mellow'd out over the years, now he's more like a Miffed Cow 🙁

[@0rbeez]

Miffed cow is my favourite band name

[@GigaLordShinyMudkip1]

I misread your comment as Milfed Cow

[@cuchococh4977]

@@GigaLordShinyMudkip1 I haven't even noticed before I read your comment... Darn we need to check our eyes

[@jaschabull2365]

How about a Surly Steer?

[@jasonfox6932]

Tauros reminds me of a star athlete in a sport he helped to pioneer that kept taking licks as he watched the sport around him slowly change from what it started as.

[@carlosjesusperezfelipe3479]

Me: How many Pokemon got Close Combat in this generation?! Game Freak: YES

[@lynxfresh5214]

Luxray: "What about me, I can learn Superpower but not Close combat?". Game Freak: "No!" Staraptor: "At least you made it into gen 8" Luxray: "Yeah and I'm untiered yet again... :/"

[@tommyortega7796]

@@lynxfresh5214 sad

[@nousername191]

I still want an explanation for Close Combat Sharpedo.

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

@@lynxfresh5214 staraptor : Finally a dream that has come ture I’m untied ( sort of )

[@rike971]

@@lynxfresh5214 Electivire : And the saddest part here is that me neither I can't learn Close Combat.

[@PapaNierForReplicant]

Tauros in gen 2: *I am inevitable!* Literally every steel type: *And I am Iron Man.*

[@2022irons]

Tauros vs Tauros Ah, yes; the most important battle in Pokémon history

[@andressotil4671]

Not more than Metapod v Metapod

[@2022irons]

@@andressotil4671 METAPOD?!?! Oh, the indigni- nah I’m just kidding

[@joolsmacgrools1288]

@@andressotil4671lol

[@epsreborn9718]

*Paldean Tauros have entered the chatroom*

[@ZorXicott_]

True doe

[@sonnenblume4]

Imagine having this bull charge at you, with threats of spitting fire, summoning a blizzard and shooting lasers. Man, the pokemon world is a dangerous place for farmers.

[@soully9568]

He may not be OU anymore, but Tauros' Paldean relatives are doing well in UU right now, and aren't too bad in OU!

[@sayvionwashington1939]

"Tauros got 3 new forms? And 2 of them are Fire/Fighting and Water/Fighting? Ah man, Sheer Force boosted Flare Blitzes and Liquidations are gonna be swe-" *Hidden Ability: Cud Chew* "My dissapointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined."

[@excalibur493]

Man, Tauros sounds so good in Gen 1 that it should be put in Gen 1 Ubers. Imagine a bull being as busted as a genetic abomination of poke-jesus.

[@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214]

I think the problem is that RBY Ubers is just way to strong so it would suck there probably

[@thunderphoenix256]

@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 it’s stated in the video that Tauros did well when used in Ubers

[@joolsmacgrools1288]

This. It wasn't likely to come out on top much of the time versus the likes of Mew or especially Mewtwo, but it was still a threatening presence.

[@splitsee2526]

Glad Tauros got a remake. NOW IT'S TIME FOR SNORLAX AND SALMENCE'S TURN!

[@carnage0685]

why Snorlax and Salamence? Especially Salamence

[@splitsee2526]

@@carnage0685 because, their videos are really long ago. And also they don't do enough justice for them.

[@Theofficialtino]

Gengar as well

[@dhruvhosali2416]

and tyranitar lmao

[@justinnzamora5366]

Let's just say that the existence of Skarmory and Forretress ensured that Tauros would not be usable in OU after Gen 1.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Meanwhile Blissey:"Steel types?, catch these flamethrowers and fire blasts while I safely hide behind my wall of hp".

[@Sintra4]

Maybe someday it'll get flare blitz

[@erikreeds3836]

skarm and forretress were nowhere near tauros' biggest issues in gen 2. fire blast did solid enough damage to them and it outsped both of them. the greater issue is actually that its physical prowess was so reduced by the lowered crit rate, hyper beam change, and the existence of leftovers. it can't threaten snorlax very well, gets scared out by the electrics, generally struggles with gengar, can't take status, etc.

[@luissilva1954]

it can do great in gen 3 tho

[@bryanc1772]

It’s not like UUBL is a bad position though in Gen 2 and 3. It does a lot better than most Pokemon would ever hope to do. Tauros isn’t definately what it used to be in Gen 1 but it can still be dangerous in Gen 2 and Gen 3

[@ApocolipticMonkey]

hearing about tauros absolutely dominating gen 1 makes is feel so legendary

[@NovaContext]

Conclusion: Tauros is a prime example how power creep can catch up to it Other examples: Change in game mechanics, stats, abilities, and addition of items and the steel type Edit: I see the argument, and I guess that the addition of EVs and IVs helped

[@Peepohold]

Claydol and tauros: *power creep is my passion*

[@kanibelazy0585]

Exeggcutor got it worst. It got nerf every gen

[@joshlemmy8663]

@@Peepohold I've seen claydol doing better on Gen 8

[@achievedchair17]

@@joshlemmy8663 kinda like golurk where it got worse and worse, but gen 8 saved it

[@joshlemmy8663]

@@achievedchair17 Gen 8 got very curious changes for a lot of mons

[@bronzeagehuman]

Red had a Tauros in Stadium 2 and it was a nightmare to deal with if you wanted to beat the game without the transfer pak. I highly recommend doing the rental only challenge in that game by the way. As far as I know, it's the ultimate offline Pokemon experience in terms of difficulty.

[@johnwheeler3070]

Hey, False Swipe Gaming. I listen to your videos when I’m grinding Pokémon to higher levels. Y’all are so entertaining and have expanded my horizons on competitive Pokémon. Keep up the good work! (P.S. You covered Ninetales, my favorite Pokémon so thanks so much)

[@xavierashford9072]

Tauros is the Smash 64 Kirby of Pokemon.

[@Rarest26]

Kirby would be more like Lapras though, since he wasn’t the best

[@TAKirbyStar]

@@Rarest26 Tauros was SSB64 Pikachu Lapras was SSB64 Kirby

[@Rarest26]

@@TAKirbyStar That's what I mean, fellow poyo

[@rossduncan9516]

@@TAKirbyStar Golem would be Ness then. Ness went from top 3 to bottom 3 in Smash 64; Golem went from OU to NU in RBY.

[@TheOriginalEwan]

So basically it was the king of generation 1 but the newer, tankier, faster and harder hitting Pokemon dethroned it? *Cars 3 in a nutshell.*

[@Puki9117]

That's the story of many Pokemon

[@poopidkwhy5929]

Lmfao i realised

[@carlosmartinezcaballer8203]

Normal Pokemon fans: "Ash cought 30 Tauros, so cool!" Hardcore fans: ACTUALLY...

[@reuenqad818]

I was literally wondering earlier today if you'd remake this one. Gg

[@leonardobarbosatelles2779]

Did FSG really predict Tauros’ signature move’s name???

[@notshockwavedemon7543]

Took them until Gen 9 to add that move A stronger brick break that is Normal type but the type is different if used by Paldean Tauros

[@ch0mpd136]

Now that Tauros has its Paldean Fire form, it has returned to OU with a vengeance

[@AffyMoon]

And now it's fallen down again, but not by too much

[@bluebaron6811]

@@AffyMoon NU, anyone?

[@Eriorguez]

If Miltank was a gen I Pokemon, double cattle may had been an OU stample.

[@dhichicpop2531]

Happy Hindu noises

[@Dragrath1]

I still lament that GF decided to start deleting moves Pursuit was one of the few things keeping some Pokémon in check Rock climb was actually a nice move though it would have been better off as a rock move and that doesn't even get started on how many mid to early game moves were removed for seemingly no reason as many of those literally leave a type with no offensive stab options prior to end game. At least Tauros got some new move options....

[@getthegoons]

Ah well at least we got some seriously high quality animations out of it right? Like I bet that dog pokemon turns super smoothly and all the pokemon have unique move animations and all that.

[@coolguyc4sey]

Have watched the vid yet but expecting 10 mins for Gen 1 and everything else is 8 minutes total

[@nicoexelby8508]

Every generation after 1 starts with UNFORTUNATELY

[@ethanc.1443]

5 minutes for Gen 1 and about 15 minutes for everything else

[@slipknot95maggot]

I'd have guessed the reverse; Gen one meta: ALL HAIL THE KING Every other gen: Funny story..... Here's the thing: - ........

[@midnight-fox7456]

I love these remakes. Not only the quality is up, but you also go in much more detail about pokemon in question, their role in each gen, and their achievements. If I remember well, original video was only 8 minutes.

[@hogusbogus7685]

I just imagine that Tauros now sits at bars along with Exeggutor reminiscing about the good old days of Gen 1 OU

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

Gen 1: Used Body Slam Gens 2-7: Used other normal STAB Gen 8: Back to using Body Slam We've come full circle.

[@SHAM_WOW]

Gen 1 tauros: Death incarnate, terror of all Every Gen after: Punished by the gods, a shell of his former self. Waiting for the moment his undeniable power is restored

[@ethanc.1443]

At least Tauros gets to dominate in the lower tiers, way better than being a BL mon

[@Rarest26]

Basically Meta Knight in a nutshell

[@matiasrivas1692]

Tauros, doesn't have hands. Also Tauros, learns throat chop.

[@dawnsbuneary]

It could chop with its horns.

[@matiasrivas1692]

@@dawnsbuneary No, horns can't chop, they stab. I hate it when Pokémon are carelessly given coverage with no regard to their design or theme. Power Trip and Brutal Swing would have been more appropriate if less useful if not unusable.

[@eclipse9727]

@@matiasrivas1692 I mean... I always thought they could cut. They're sharp. And throat chop would be them just swinging their horns to slash at the throat. Not the best explanation, but one regardless.

[@2022irons]

Gen 8 Tauros: *Hippety Hoppety, Close Combat Is Now My Property*

[@NanaKyoto]

With how many bans/unbans Tauros has gone through, it's really like trying to tame a raging bull.

[@joshlemmy8663]

I love how unlike the first version this had a more optimistic ending

[@ethanc.1443]

They got more high quality when they started talking more about the lower tiers

[@hecatia666]

I'm so glad that Tauros always had been an important part of the competitive scene because it's one of my all-time favorites. Man... Mega-Tauros would be so nice...

[@larrychilders6599]

Oh you mean Bouffalant

[@hecatia666]

@@larrychilders6599 What a weird way to write Tauros

[@165hy9]

@@hecatia666 what a weird way to write bouffalant

[@hecatia666]

Of course I mean Tauros

[@chaosbreaker657]

My idea for Mega Tauros: Normal/Fighting: HP: 75 Attack: 140 Defense: 110 Special Attack: 10 Special Defense: 110 Speed: 145 Ability: Sheer Force Based off of the Minotaur.

[@shyguysquad5231]

Spoilers: it's all downhill

[@cartspark]

just like yamcha

[@shyguysquad5231]

@@cartspark I do not know what this Yamcha is, but it sounds disappointing

[@PansyPops]

When you start off on a high, all you can do is fall.

[@justinnzamora5366]

@@PansyPops Hight?

[@PansyPops]

@@justinnzamora5366 thanks for pointing it out, mistake. Autocorrect is broken. When you don’t need it- it’s there, when you do- it breaks. 😆

[@beanburrito4405]

This was definitely one of the videos that most sorely needed a remaking. Great job as always, FSG! Your production quality has improved so much since then :)

[@MrJavmastermetaloq12]

Unexpected remake, but seeing "Raging" on the title, I knew something would be different, especially for Tauros.

[@pocaitul78nr1]

Alakazam: I'm one of the strongest pokemon in gen 1 Tauros: *Step aside peasant*

[@j44son]

Yea gen 1 dragonite sucked

[@pocaitul78nr1]

@Mahati One of THE

[@pocaitul78nr1]

@Mahati ok then,lemme edit it

[@pocaitul78nr1]

@Mahati Alrighty then,i'm not really good at gen 1 pokemon but besides tauros only Alakazam can count,maybe Starmie but i'm not so sure about it

[@pocaitul78nr1]

@Mahati I wish that Tauros could at least be a bit better in the future

[@FatalGecko58]

I bet the remastered video of Tyranitar will be an hour long bc of how good it is.

[@thel-iteralone4592]

It's amazing to see how much more detail is put into discussing a Pokemon's performance in the lower tiers in these remakes of older videos!

[@sirhigglesworth]

Been waiting on this one! Great episode lads!

[@theflintabletc]

Bringing back gen1 hyper beam mechanic would be backbreaking to all metas, since I'd assume it would apply to giga impact, frenzy plant, and the like. Probably best to leave that as a relic of the past.

[@CharroArgentino]

I don't think they would be that great, in Gen 1 there wasn't much that resisted an Hyper Beam, and if they do, they got a free hit and that's it. In current gens, mispredicting an hyper beam means something will set up in your face and potentially sweep your team, the risk is much higher. Not to mention many pokémon have moves that hit harder with less drawbacks and they aren't broken at all, same for pokémon with absurdly high atk/spa like Hoopa Unbound, who's not even close to Uber material.

[@rajt9996]

Tauros- the only pokemon that made 40 special attack viable

[@NovaContext]

Well it had 70 special in gen 1, which was not bad for its time

[@IschmarVI]

@@NovaContext it started using fire blast again after it got sheer force and actually made it work, because sheer force + life orb is perfectly balanced and extremely well-coded. :)

[@NovaContext]

@@IschmarVI This is true

[@NovaContext]

@Magnus Von Braun Swellow has 75 special attack with scrappy + boomburst Nidoking has Sheer Force, making his special attacks hit harder than his physical attacks (especially being paired with Life Orb, in which it doesn't take Life Orb recoil with moves that are effected by Sheer Force)

[@sandshrew-alola]

.....once it was discovered that WHAT? Body Slam doesn't paralyze normal types in gen 1?!!!

[@IschmarVI]

fun fact - pokemon stadium 2 actually gave a hint on that one. Something about "secondary effects usually don't take effect on a pokemon whose type is the same as the moves in gen 1" and gave thunderbolt vs. an electabuzz as example.

[@radley3924]

So if Tauros has been done, why not its Gen 5 counterpart, Bouffalant?

[@artje90]

cause that thing has never been good tbh

[@radley3924]

@@artje90 well yeah, it's a slower bulkier tauros with a little bit more power but like it's slow lmao

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@radley3924 Which makes no sense because bison in real life are actually very fast and they can jump a few meters high sometimes. But then again, when has Pokémon ever made sense? XD

[@radley3924]

@@cintronproductions9430 For real LOL like I never thought a Barnacle Fossil pokemon would have the same speed as an acrobatic electric stag beetle (yeah 43 speed apiece)

[@Igorcastrochucre]

Because much like a lot of things in Gen V, it's a worse version of something we had in Kanto. Bouffalant is a worse Tauros, Audino a worse Chansey, Throh and Sawk are worse Hitmons, the list goes on.

[@sliced8669]

I never thought Tauros would’ve gotten a remake before the starters or gengar or something

[@goGothitaLOL]

also Arcanine, Gyarados, Snorlax and T-Tar

[@lemonadogirl4082]

0:24 RUMOR COME OUT: DOES FSG IS PREDICT GEN 9???

[@lancevandertooth1810]

Thank you for showing the special split again. Keep it up for ALL GEN 1 pokemon.

[@bookerlee8079]

Wow, two new videos from False Swipe Gaming in one day? That's a nice surprise. Keep up the good work! Always love these videos!

[@assemblyrequired7342]

The reason that Tauros is no longer OU definitely has something to do with a combination of not having an ability that kept his critical hit rate, recharge rate, and lower special attack. I'm hoping that Mega Evolutions are not done for good, because I think that while Tauros might be too overpowered if he got a normal evolution, a mega evolution would be a fair upgrade. With his stats, I still think that power creep would have affected Tauros, what with the increasing number of Fighting moves and priority, although how much is hard to say.

[@sketchydude8431]

That, and Normal Types have gotten kinda worse over time The reason they were good in Gen 1 is because fighting types were practically a non factor, mainly due to being really bad (the best fighting type, Machamp, was still pretty bad) But in later gens, Fighting types became more and more prominent, while the normal types lack of resistances and, at best, niche immunity became more and more clear

[@mrtrollnator123]

​@@sketchydude8431fr

[@mcdonnell-douglasdc-1056]

I found it fitting for Tauros to be the king of Gen 1 OU, since that metagame is the Wild West of competitive Pokemon.

[@bryanc1772]

Snorlax Exeggutor and Chansey have something to say about that

[@juanfigueroa8591]

I watch ur channel faithfully. amazing work 👏👏

[@KamiChrisy]

Two gen 1 pokemon on the same day. False is giving gen 1 pokemon the love today

[@Matt-ub5yc]

How i'd buff tauros 1.ATK100

[@Steve_A93]

This video popped up on my recommended and made me think about how we need a re-remake now that Tauros has gained 3 new forms :o

[@lexi3312]

Its nice to see Tauros seemingly come back to higher tiers in gen 8. That's rare for old Pokémon like him.

[@Yeshua_Kristos]

That Raging Bull joke in the first few seconds _really_ confirms that BKC writes these. XD

[@Giaroscope]

I can't imagine what else they'd add to a mega taurus. It would have to be a 3 headed demon minotaur or something. The thing is already beefy with three tails and a mane

[@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS]

35 to speed and 65 to attack and wonder guard please

[@thenerdbeast7375]

God the Gen 8 section, every time Isle of Armor/Crown Tundra is mentioned I wanna smash something because we had a chance for an interesting Meta before they reversed Dexit to allow power creep back in.

[@donovanmc3227]

I know most will say it's been downhill for Tauros and that's mostly true, but honestly gen 8 has been a start of a recovery for him imo. Gaining Close combat and throat chop was great, I hope he's given more attention as time goes on, but i think gen 8 is the start of a recovery for him. He was dominant in NU at one point and even banned to RU i think like midway into Isle of Armor

[@TheYoshiman222]

Gen 1 Hyper beam mechanics should return tbh. The move is virtually useless since they were removed. It could also make for some interesting plays since if the opponent swapped to a good enough wall it would cost the user a turn which could be devastating. #makehyperbeamgreatagain ...though in Tauros' case, this would be Giga Impact instead of hyper beam. I'd also give a BST boost of +10 to attack and speed just to help keep up with the power creep.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Imagine Roar of time spam in ubers?

[@TheYoshiman222]

@@lynxfresh5214 my point still stands, since there will be pokemon who can easily avoid dying to it. such as certain special walls and steel types

[@Igorcastrochucre]

I dunno, something like a Power Herb equivalent to recharging would be a good compromise.

[@zyella277]

@@TheYoshiman222 aslo fairys are imune to it. Also i dont think speed is needed for taurs ,attack buff would b welcome but its already fast at 110 and its speed isnt really its issue for higher tiers more its bulk(so take hit if its slower) and not quite enough force to get ko's it woul want

[@Harmless_Music]

hyper beam is a great option in VGC though, Porygon Z uses it for DMax Strike and as a late game cleaning option, as well as several other mons making rather good use of it

[@mihneaiordan1813]

Indeed, a video about Ash's second Tauros

[@TryClyde3]

I just watched the original and got confused when I saw this video saying I didn’t watch it

[@togakhan1274]

Damn, i was just thinking today in the previous vid, " I would love to see a tauros remake." I was so surprised to see this. Thanks FSG.

[@Chucky_Martinez]

Tauros was such a dangerous threat , it stampedes through the competition