How Railroads Paint Their Locomotives

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[@davidbarnett9312]

Good stuff. Never thought about that. My experience was SP so there wasn't much thought in paint schemes in my day. lol. Check that! As a kid, the big, yellow "Sunbeam" steam engine and passenger cars were fabulous to see. Big D to Houston Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and return Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Of course, there was also the Texas Eagle [MoP]. Not todays' TE.

[@kens.3729]

Earl Schieb, Any Car, Any Color, $ 29.95. 😬👍

[@Trains21]

I remember that name and slogan.

[@kens.3729]

@@Trains21 Thanks AC! 👍

[@LetsGoRailfanning]

@@Trains21 I had a car painted by Earl Schieb... wasn't awful... 😉

[@lukebonagura5265]

If the Railroads washed them, the paint would last longer. Talk about image??

[@Trains21]

Some railroads do.

[@jaimarwagner1223]

Off topic question but what’s the difference between a ES44AC and the ES44C4?

[@Trains21]

The AC has six powered axles while the C4 has four powered axles.

[@dallasspotting]

Where are UP & BNSF's shops located?

[@johnandersonjjr]

I don’t know what the quality of epoxy primer is in the US but in Canada government edicts have robbed them of any real ability to resist rust/corrosion.The prices have not reflected this lower quality however,it’s grab every dollar we can for this inferior product.

[@lucmarchand617]

Cp locomotive need good wash I live calgary alberta I saw my own some ge locomotive dirty like hell some people call head office in calgary are cheap there are pass true downtown calgary hauling freight with lead engine dirty.

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

SP never and I mean NEVER washed their locos. UP,,,after taking over SP has continued the tradition.

[@dennisb-trains23]

Neither does CP.

[@Trains21]

Yep, I watched them for four years out on the Sunset Route in San Antonio, TX back in the early 90s.

[@DansRailroad2011]

Fantastic topic to discuss!

[@Trains21]

Thanks Dan!

[@Bob.W.]

CP should just spray their GE's with tar or asphalt since they never wash them anyway.

[@caprature]

But their gp20ecos look super sharp. Haha

[@rickiemckillip8124]

Doesn't look like UP does Either

[@chuxtuff]

Maybe a chip seal finish with a small gravel topcoat!!

[@illinoiscentralrailroadfan6015]

Illinois Central used the Paducah shops until the end even after they became VMV and Woodcrest

[@davidwilliams26]

Always something new to learn most informative video. Have a safe and healthy end of November.

[@Trains21]

Thanks David, you as well.

[@franks471]

I wonder, while other roads were deferring maintenance on track and rolling stock, the n&w must have been thinking... what's the cheapest paint scheme? The script herald scheme, too costly. The hamburger scheme, too costly. I know, lets get rattle cans of black whatever, as long as it sticks and we'll just use our reporting marks. Oh, and don't worry about doing it the same way on every loco either. that takes too much time. :)

[@alcopower5710]

Great stuff AC

[@Trains21]

Thanks!

[@bobbysenterprises3220]

Thanks for video. Interesting. Especially since I was a ppg tech rep for a automotive and commerical jobber before being a full time auto painter.

[@Trains21]

Thanks for watching, Bobby.

[@taylorbaggarleyunionpacifi3409]

Place visit my freind is little Rock on the union pacific and bnsf many others

[@Trains21]

Hopefully I'll get that opportunity.

[@erict5234]

Side note... UP's heritage locomotive fleet was painted at (WSOR) Horicon, WI shops.

[@Trains21]

Thanks, that's interesting to know.

[@michaelnotigan7796]

Well researched and presented, as usual, AC. The costs breakdown show how monumental the NS Heritage Unit program was to NS. One then begins to question why an NS could not run those units in the wash whenever they were shopped; which has the side benefit of giving longer life to those expensive 2 part paints. On another front, I began to wonder what Progress Rail did or did not do when those Heritage units like the PC, the Reading and DLW began to flake off in big chunks......inadequate prepping of the primer before top coating?

[@Trains21]

Thanks for watching Michael. Yeah, Progress Rail painted HUs didn't hold up well at all. Enola Yard would usually wash the HUs when they came in for servicing or whatever. I might do a video about that.

[@ChainsawNW1218]

ChainsawN&W1218, real interesting I know NS painted there 10 GE ES44AC HU and EMD painted the 10 SD70ACES!👍🛤🚂

[@Trains21]

Yep, that was the point behind my little "Do the math" stab toward the end.

[@JohnSmith-bk9iz]

You need to update your map… Chattanooga hasn’t painted locos for over 5 years.

[@iusetano]

Thank you AC. Now I know. Interesting. Excellent video.

[@Trains21]

Thanks Hans.

[@arthurmatthews9321]

As someone who has painted many locomotives, I can say it is a very satisfying job. It’s hard work and not for the faint hearted,and there is a lot of health and safety involved. But when you see the locomotive finished , looking stunning, it’s all worth it.

[@irish00011]

A.C.: Some railroads, in my opinion, don't keep the high-level look of their locomotive paint jobs up to snuff, which I absolutely don't understand. The exterior painted quality of the locomotive exterior is, indeed, the 'public face' of the railroad company. Two of the biggest offenders are Canadian Pacific and Canadian National. There are others, but these two, are top-tier 'A' level concerns.

[@railfan100]

CSX...always looks neglected! NS always ...for the most part takes pride in their look!

[@7171-Ws6]

They don’t care!

[@Trains21]

I've heard that CP doesn't look after their engines which surprises me because most of the CP engines that I ever saw looked in at least "decent" shape. CN also surprises me because I've been in and on many of their locos and if nothing else, they have most of the bells and whistles.

[@7171-Ws6]

Yup. Csx paints right over the rust on their rebuilds

[@MoodyBlue42..]

#1073 P.C. sure could use a new paint job for sure!! Love the channel brother 👍

[@Trains21]

I agree, most of the Progress Rail painted units didn't hold up well. Thanks for watching.

[@Blaze06]

When I first saw this video was uploaded my mind immediately went to the new UP scheme lmao

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

Cool Video. I love watching train painting timelapse video but they are rare so its cool to get the 411 on information behind the topic

[@markfisher1392]

Ha! I had to listen a few times at 1:22 to figure out you were saying "Bombardier" -- I was used to the Americanized "BOM-ba-DEER" pronunciation. But since they are a Canadian company, the French pronunciation makes sense! There's even a KZbin video explaining how to pronounce it correctly! Never too old to learn ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHnKd2djiJWSr5o

[@Trains21]

Thanks Mark, I'll check it out.

[@garyolsen3409]

No one says BOM-BOD-EEE-AYE, if you said that to someone no one would understand you.

[@chuxtuff]

Another excellent video!! So let's say my old Jeep loco needs a new sprayed on corporate image (Heritage scheme) in the original company colors. So if I bring it in for a standard paint job (labor & materials) what can I expect to write the check for and we're out the door?? The material bill alone seems like it could be huge.

[@Trains21]

Thanks again Chux! I'm not sure what a automotive paint job would go for in 2023, but considering the staggering inflation of today's dollar, I'm sure you'd be looking at more than 5K easy.

[@brianfalzon6739]

Awesome stuff

[@UltraMagaFan]

I had no idea Sherwin Williams made industrial coatings. I thought they just made house paint.

[@RailfanNetwork]

I use PPG Paints myself.

[@Trains21]

That's interesting, Tony. I didn't realize you did vehicle painting.

[@RailfanNetwork]

@@Trains21 I don't (at least not on purpose.) They alsio produce a professional line of commercial paints.

[@matthewarentzen7465]

Great research and education from a future legend in rail vids!

[@Trains21]

Thanks Matthew!

[@matthewarentzen7465]

@@Trains21 you are welcome, my friend!

[@dennisb-trains23]

Better get MAACO! 🤣🤣. Nice idea for a video. Uniqueness peaks interest. 😁👍⭐

[@Trains21]

Thanks Dennis.. BTW, you forgot to say "Uh-oh" first. LOL

[@DJinNJ08830]

Thanks AC. Very informative about the paint 🦃🎁🎄

[@Trains21]

Thanks for watching DJ.

[@kevinb9327]

Exceptionally interesting! 👍

[@railfanjk8964]

nice video

[@Trains21]

Thanks

[@davidmorris7696]

CSX Huntington!!!

[@andrewpalm2103]

Heh. Primer, color, and clear coats. Just like my HO locomotives. My acrylic color paint is about ($4/17 ml) x (3785.4 ml/gal) ~ $890/gal, but I don't need more than 17 ml per loco. 🙂 Cheers from Wisconsin!

[@arthurmatthews9321]

As someone who has done this job for many years. I can tell you that there is nothing more satisfying than painting a railroad locomotive. It is hard work but when you see the locomotive finished, looking stunning it is worth all the effort.

[@richintalent]

Is there a reason why NS has the blue Sonic Bonnet and the yellow and red bonnet colors on their locos?

[@Trains21]

Mostly the different colors represented different types of rebuilds. In the case of the AC44C6Ms 4000-4005, the colors represented the shops that rebuilt them. The red stripe was Roanoke, the blue stripe was Altoona and the gold stripe was Dansville, NY.