Being a CGI artist I can say this to every person saying that Tarkin and/or Leia look bad - you have no idea what you're saying and are basically bashing people who made probably the best effort to recreate a person. Good job ILM. And on a side note - I need that movie in fullHD and in as high bitrate as possible - it looks amazing even on KZbin.
@gandralf8 жыл бұрын
Westworld, Ant-man, Cap 3. All WAY better than Tarkin.
@Cinnamon10808 жыл бұрын
Adam K Eh. That's a weak position. It can still look bad whilst a huge amount of work went into it. There are parts of Paul Walkers CG face in Fast 7 that look 100% convincing. There are others where it is super obvious and bad. Doesn't mean I am discrediting the world. It's hard work making a convincing human.
@matthewrevell27068 жыл бұрын
Its called the uncanny valley. Effort alone does not make something good.
@milkytoad83888 жыл бұрын
Adam K The thing is, this is brand new technology. It may look fake at times but it's still astonishing to see how great they have it so far. Imagine how well this will be advanced 20 years from now.
@DarkModeStudio8 жыл бұрын
Using that argument, a lot of work when into things like the Tacoma Narrows bridge, but was it good? No. it collapsed. Effort doesn't trump result. For all the effort in this, (and i have done digital modeling) this is a bad result that needed WAAAAAAY more time to get right. They missed the mark. I didn't watch the movie with advanced knowledge that there would be this level of digital work or even resurrected characters and soon as it popped on screen i cringed. It was like watching the Final Fantasy: Spirits With movie. Just not good.
@jessreyes50308 жыл бұрын
i actually had no idea the actor was dead until someone told me he was all CGI... i think it looks superb... what DEAD EYES are people talking about? bullshit... looks amazing
@devilskind928 жыл бұрын
It's confirmation bias. People know the actor is dead so they know what they're seeing on screen is fake and therefore can't bring themselves to believe it. Every little flaw will be extremely acentuated because of that.
@DarkModeStudio8 жыл бұрын
not true. I had no idea the scene was going to happen and any older characters were going to be a part of it, and as soon as that scene happened, i felt something wasn't right and I was right. I went in a blank slate and that part was just unbearably bad.
@devilskind928 жыл бұрын
steven andrew Well, it's not the same for everyone. Some people do find it easy to notice it's CGI than others. I am also an "exception" because I knew he was dead and it was CGI, and it still blew my mind and I thought it was amazingly well done. The thing is, "knowing it" does have an influence on most people.
@DarkModeStudio8 жыл бұрын
Bruno Bessa Im sure it does. It just took me by surprise and I felt it was off from the first moment. There was something inhuman about motions and expressions. They even had good reference material and it still fell short.
@devilskind928 жыл бұрын
steven andrew It's a very hard thing to do. As it is said in the video, we just know humans too well, so any "fake" human has to be incredibly convincing to trick us. We're not there yet, technologically. But Tarkin was, without a doubt, the best CGI human ever made up until this point. Maybe with time they will remaster these scenes as technology advances. Who knows.
@henryscott3708 жыл бұрын
This is goddamn amazing. People apparently cant appreciate anything...
@henryscott3708 жыл бұрын
True.
@kerravon86668 жыл бұрын
For certain more people would have bitched if they had used different actors as some are suggesting in these comments. Just look at the whining about Han Solo...
@jean-francoisjoanisse14458 жыл бұрын
It's not a question of appreciating things. It's a question of making it right. When the technology is there. Few years back you could tell when ships were CGI and looked fake compared to models. Now, they don't. They are as crisp and real and as sharp as models. So I'm all for CG in this case. Now CG humans today look bad if not terrible in most scenes. Specially in close ups. Get it right, THEN use it. Before that, lay it to rest. It takes the audience out of the movie experience. Its like "LOOK HERE! A FAKE DIGITAL CHARACTER" in the middle of a great movie. Now...ten years from now, an ethical question will have to be debated if we should or should not use CG humans...risking the downfall of actors.
@jean-francoisjoanisse14458 жыл бұрын
***** Aren't we all expressing opinions? But in some ways...it's like debating colours. Some point out a red colour others will nah...it's more like an orange. Some point a blue colour and someone will say nah...it's more of a turquoise...so is this fact or opinion? I would also add that...if it doesn't move or look realistic. How is it not terrible? How is it not bad? While on the other hand, who ever said the ships is Episode 4 back in 77 didn't look real? Who ever said that Frank Oz's puppetry of Yoda in Empire Strikes back looked bad? We all bought what we saw on the screen as real. And it's something that sometimes CGI fails to do. That's a fact. But when it does look seemless and real, it's movie magic at it's best.
@dkwan17508 жыл бұрын
Jean-Francois Joanisse You know there's little opportunity to get something right without using it, right? Everything needs to see some light of day in order to improve. And you clearly have no idea what you're arguing for and pulling points that you THINK make sense. The casualty of KZbin comments... research. There's absolutely no way that CGI will threaten real actors, as CGI is quite hard and expensive to make. Regardless of technological advancements in the next 10 years, you will need an artist behind the wheel to create the CGI. Technology may make it easier to make it look realistic, but in no way shape or form decrease the actual workload of creating such graphics in the first place. It's not a easy task to even bring CGI to the `bad` that you claim Rogue One`s is. As an artist, I'm astounded by the fact that you don't even attempt to show some respect towards towards these talented artists. But, guessing by your comments, I doubt you would appreciate art in general either. If you want to make it right, ask yourself - right to who? you, or someone else? Also, as a programmer, you do know that no one will spend time (useful to actually improving it) tweaking technology that won't be used. It's equivalent to sitting around doing nothing. Human CGI is a completely separate deal from ship/object CGI, you can't use only one in the hope of a completely-different technology to improve. It's like saying developing cell phones will improve your desktop computer. As to the ethical question, I suggest you better consider if it's ethical for machine self-learning computers to replace literally every job that a human can occupy (which will possibly be able to create CGI replacing humans on its own, but at that point, every other job on the planet will be at risk already.)
@643eddie8 жыл бұрын
I don't see how creating CGI versions of characters because the actor/actress has died or is too old is an insult to the person. I doubt Peter Cushing is turning in his grave.
@SgtZima8 жыл бұрын
It's an insult if they're using that person's likeness to do things they wouldn't have participated in if they were alive. Like using dead actors to sell products. It's an insult to their legacy, not them personally, that's why they need permission from the actor's estate before they're allowed to do this.
@SgtZima8 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Audrey Hepburn wouldn't be honoured to be used for selling chocolate.
@SgtZima8 жыл бұрын
I'm not talking about Tarkin specifically, as I'm sure he would have participated if he could have, but you said you didn't see how it could be an insult, and I was giving you an example. If, say, they'd had CG Peter Cushing dancing around naked and performing other indignities, then yeah, I'm sure his family would be horribly insulted.
@SgtZima8 жыл бұрын
In the case of Tarkin it's fine, but it's a slippery slope and shouldn't be done without careful consideration. Hepburn's family was probably happy just to get money.
@jasperabibas8 жыл бұрын
It's an insult if they recreated someone in CGI just to sell products. Rogue One on the other hand needs Tarkin because he's a huge part of the Death Star Story.
@shannonhunt10885 жыл бұрын
If Carrie Fisher herself loved the result, then nobody can complain about it...
@alphabroncotwozero3925 жыл бұрын
So something is immune to criticism just cause someone said so? Ok lmao
@RobertAngle8 жыл бұрын
I was amazed. I didn't realize Tarkin was CGI at all and thought they found a near double to play him. Princess Leia on the other hand looked like she jumped out of a PS4.
@rawritzcat72988 жыл бұрын
Robert Angle She looked like an Xbox avatar :/
@flyingpenandpaper61198 жыл бұрын
Robert Angle I disagree. It looks like Tarkin jumped out of a PS4, and Leia jumped out of a PS2.
@ktmridmcy73367 жыл бұрын
Robert Angle Vlogs it was the opposite for me
@Scripture-Man7 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to have seen what you're talking about but this video doesn't show a single clip of Leia, despite the video title suggesting this is all about Leia.
@jwickjedi8 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that THREE people I spoke with who DIDN'T know who Peter Cushing/Tarkin was.....did NOT notice the CGI..however they were asking me about Carrie Fisher..."how did they do that". I think if you KNOW something is CGI, you are going to say "it's not good enough", etc. I think ILM did a fantastic job of bringing back both Tarkin and a young Leia to SW fans.
@Xiox3218 жыл бұрын
My brother knew who they were and thought that they were look alike actors, he had no idea that they were CGI. I thought they were incredibly well done as well, made the movie so much better to see them again and match so well to A New Hope, even though I knew they were CGI at first glance, it was still great.
@bumbledouche33237 жыл бұрын
I think it's partly a generational thing as well. Having grown up during the early boom period of CGI in movies & video games, people of my generation (early 30's) have been almost trained to spot CGI. We've grown up watching that gradual evolution in technology & we've seen it succeed in some cases & fail in others, making us all the more sensitive when it comes to noticing when something isn't quite right because we know what to look for, we expect it & we actively look for it. Older people don't necessarily think like that & it therefore doesn't occur to them that an actor on screen might be anything other than what he or she seems & certainly not the reanimated features of someone who died more than 20 years ago...
@michaelfjmusic6 жыл бұрын
I am just getting into Star Wars. When I watched Rogue One, I didn't even know that Peter Cushing had died, let alone that his character was re-created using CGI. Now that I know, I am VERY impressed that this kind of technology is even possible.
@efnarios8 жыл бұрын
people are too nitpicky I thought the CGI faces were incredible!
@Tw1s78 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@skywalker63558 жыл бұрын
I agree. They are awesome. They did an even better job than the CGI effects they implemented for the character of Renesmee in Breaking Dawn/Twilight, which were considered cutting edge as well.
@CatsAreRubbish8 жыл бұрын
Maybe you need your eyes testing then. I mean, it's certainly impressive but it still doesn't look real... his wrinkles and folds under his eyes for instance look painted on and his skin overall seems to have the elasticity of a teenager.
@efnarios8 жыл бұрын
***** I know it wasn't real from the moment I saw it for the first time but I was impress of how close it is for Peter Cushing and a real human being!
@skywalker63558 жыл бұрын
There were some people (as annotated in the video) who watched this and weren't aware it was CGI. I think we're unconsciously looking for differences because we know they're deceased actors. The job they did with the technology and lighting was, honestly, stunning.
@ConnorRentz8 жыл бұрын
Love the work they put into this. Tarkin looks incredibly realistic.
@Sukuraidogai8 жыл бұрын
The lighting in his eyes, and other small details of is face are off. Including the animation. It's still very recognizably uncanny valley. But as they've said in this video, making realistic CGI humans is one of the hardest things to do. They got pretty close, but the difficulty curve to complete realism is exponential in scale.
@Arkatox8 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares that it wasn't perfect. It was _believable_.
@killboggins8 жыл бұрын
No. It has to be perfect. If you noticed anything wrong with it then it failed. You're crediting hard work and not the result which is completely backwards. I can spend all day making a shit painting. You gonna praise me for that?
@thezantgeneral6778 жыл бұрын
+killboggins But it didn't fail. It was not even noticeable to Me. Not to mention that even if it wasn't perfect, You'd still not notice it thanks to the lighting.
@thothheartmaat28338 жыл бұрын
The Zant General they will just say it's because you're stupid that you didn't notice and they're so smart because oh they noticed. never mind the fact they went in already knowing it was CGI.. oh but they're so smart.. cuz they knew beforehand.. that's like if i tell you a stock will increase so you bet on it then you go oh look at me im so smart.. no you're not.. it looked as close as fake can be and complaining about it is really stupid. why not complain about every puppet and CGI ever used in star wars? or just shut your mouth. it didn't look "terrible" it looked "amazing". why does everything have to be pass/fail? oh I barely noticed a little tiny something so fail.. oh I noticed a shitty puppet that didn't look real in episode 4 so the whole movie is a fail.. it's a movie bros...
@thatscousedude8 жыл бұрын
Cushings estate approved it and the head of his estate said she thought it was great - whats the issue?
@censor19348 жыл бұрын
Bumblebert Star Wars fanboys losing their shit is a tradition that has existed since the Holiday Special. They complain about insignificant things to make them feel smarter and better even if they come off as raving lunatics.
@thatscousedude8 жыл бұрын
And as a horror loon I thought it was great to see "him" again!
@Nemoticon8 жыл бұрын
Because some people just love to bitch and moan...
@actionthatsucks8 жыл бұрын
Obviously a few bad apples which is all it takes to create a stink.
@WWJimbo8 жыл бұрын
Cushing also stated multiple times that he wanted to be in the sequels.
@clydo6215 жыл бұрын
mannn at first i thought they just had someone who looks like carrie fisher as leia in rogue one
@HemiJB915 жыл бұрын
The cgi was so good I didn’t find out Marf was dead before this shit lol
@rowandax61898 жыл бұрын
Went to see this with my mother and she had no idea Peter Cushing was cgi. She didn't believe me when I told her he's been dead for more than a few years. While I could tell Tarkin was cgi, young Leia was nearly perfect. Keep raising the bar ILM your hard work is much appreciated. And Tarkin did look amazing.
@b.m.778 жыл бұрын
My mom didn't even notice it was CGI 😂😂😂
@OkiDingo7 жыл бұрын
B. M. Your mom is old and no longer see week or in normal framerates.
@bliczb87727 жыл бұрын
Well, say what you want, but I didn't notice that Tarkin was CGI until I saw his face up close. Still, it's very impressive technology, something that we could only dream of in 2007, let alone when original trilogy was released.
@jerkel7 жыл бұрын
same, i knew leia was cgi but didn't even notice tarkin was too until i rewatched the scene.
@gaminglegend7 жыл бұрын
srsly???
@giannisampo43777 жыл бұрын
the darkside of the force clouded your mothers vision my friend.
@MyNameIsND8 жыл бұрын
" and it´s the groundbreaking visual effects that have everyone TARKIN" 0:38
@400TX8 жыл бұрын
this guy gets it
@sebastieno.16148 жыл бұрын
MyNameIsND lol
@OttoMattak8 жыл бұрын
MyNameIsND Now you're tarkin!
@wakandasprincess16858 жыл бұрын
Hah 😂
@Captain-Palsy8 жыл бұрын
this would've been a hilarious line
@SecretAgentMan008 жыл бұрын
The CG work was better on Tarkin than on Leia.
@devin7tm8 жыл бұрын
They had more reff for Tarkin.
@shipwreck91468 жыл бұрын
Tarkin was more of a main character. He was there throughout the entire movie, whereas Leia only had about 30 seconds. So there was more purpose to do well on Tarkin.
@neil78b8 жыл бұрын
They both look like garbage but Leia was far more realistic, even the guys who worked on it said that as they put way more work into her...
@Fairpoint3748 жыл бұрын
SecretAgentMan00 I can agree on that
@francoochoa31768 жыл бұрын
SecretAgentMan00 probably because Tarkin is older and requires more work on his face probably. and because he was in the movie more.
@nil5258 жыл бұрын
When I saw the reflection in the glass of the Star Destroyer, I thought, "Hey, it's a character that looks like Tarkin", and then he started talking and I had a major geek-out. Yeah, you could still tell he wasn't human, but the performance had the nuances of Cushing's clipped, uber-cold original acting, the voice was definitely passable, and the thing was done well enough and charmingly enough as a bone to fans, that enough suspension of disbelief to not be cynical about it was easy. This was way better than coming up with a lame reason to not feature Tarkin, or having a character written to replace him.
@iamhawkeye31628 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could tell it was CGI but it still looked amazing. Sets the bar very high.
@magnetmac18 жыл бұрын
Bringing back an old popular actor to a young age or a dead popular actor back to life with CGI technology will always draw viewers' attention and scrutiny no matter how good the job is. If the actors were unpopular, then chances are that you wouldn't have known it was a CGI work because this particular job was well done.
@iamhawkeye31628 жыл бұрын
magnetmac1 that is true. That's something I forgot to mention. If you're completely new to the Star Wars universe, you'll probably never notice it is CGI.
@Wade_Fucking_Wilson7 жыл бұрын
IAmHawkeye316 Cgi paul walker was better
@CoinOpTV8 жыл бұрын
Great featurette hope they include it on the blu-ray
@sebastieno.16148 жыл бұрын
CoinOpTV Hey coin! And I agree 😃 Love your channel
@coleschubert98687 жыл бұрын
CoinOpTV nope they didn’t ugh
@0reo538 жыл бұрын
Imagining Carrie Fisher watching the final scene and looking at her young self, it's just heart-melting. RIP Carrie Fisher...
@KentKaliber8 жыл бұрын
Tarkin and Leia looks INCREDIBLE ! Everyone in the Theater CHEERED when they came out !
@Wade_Fucking_Wilson7 жыл бұрын
And everyone cringed when CRYlo ren took his helmet off
@sancheezzzy27128 жыл бұрын
Honestly if you can make a movie where you can bring back someone back to life through CGI you should get a pay raise because this is one of the hardest jobs to do. Its truly great on how filmmakers can do this.
@Triangulove8 жыл бұрын
Moff Tarkin looks like the real Peter Cushing till he moves too much, then he looks like a robot almost. Mostly with the eyes. If they had given him less movement people probably would have been more wowed.
@da5idnz8 жыл бұрын
Agree. If we'd seen a glimpse of him, it may have been enough. Having said that, in the glimpse of Princess Leia at the end, I didn't think it looked very life-like either. Maybe they should keep the eyes of the real actors they lay the CGI on top of.
@Triangulove8 жыл бұрын
da5idnz I'm not saying that he shouldn't have been on screen as much as he was, just that his screen time might have been handled with more subtlety and his movements could have been slower, he blinked too much in a couple scenes.
@Triangulove8 жыл бұрын
For example at 2:39 he looks pretty damn close to real, because his movement is much slower and there's not as much eye movement.
@orbitalchiller8 жыл бұрын
You are right, animators solely are responsible for the fakeness of the final product. The model and texture look great.
@x340x8 жыл бұрын
the eye movement always gives it away
@arthurmorgan93505 жыл бұрын
“And Lucasfilm is owned by Disney” we really needed to know that
@chriswbaty5 жыл бұрын
They really wanted to get their name out there. Typical Disney
@maxgoesracing5 жыл бұрын
How do you think they got that access?
@hexyko48505 жыл бұрын
Lucasfilm was destroyed by Disney. Shame By the way, ABC is owned by Disney too.
@scifikoala3 жыл бұрын
They legally have to say that because the network this ran on is also owned by Disney
@heyrobert83378 жыл бұрын
first time seeing Tarkin my response was "wow", I loved it, no issues with me. People against the "resurrection", stop watching movies then of actors that have passed.. because they're gone.. people had no issue with his appearance in the clone wars animated series... He's part of the star wars universe, and he just like Carrie Fisher, will always remain.
@tekjansen66868 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they use the actor they had? He looks just like Peter Cushing. Only some prosthetics and make up would have been necessary... :/
@dimitri-petrenko8 жыл бұрын
That would probably even more obvious, since he had to look exactly like Peter was in Ep4
@tekjansen66868 жыл бұрын
Dimitri Petrenko No, he did not have to look exactly like Peter. He did however have to look like a human being. For me, CGI-Tarkin does NOT cross the uncanny valley, and it's not very immersive, but irritating. :-/ Still, kudos to the artists involved!
@dimitri-petrenko8 жыл бұрын
Tek Jansen But he actually has to look EXACTLY like Tarkin in EP4 because the movies are at MOST a day away from eachother...
@JurassicCollectables8 жыл бұрын
Tek Jansen yeah I think a replacement actor would have been fine. After all Ewan McGregor becomes Alec Guiness. Whats the problem
@dimitri-petrenko8 жыл бұрын
JurassicCollectables How is that not a problem? did you even read my comments? did you watch the movies? the story flows into eachother the same day, it would be a little fucking weird if a different face shows up if you would watch it in story order...
@kwaminaessuahmensah89208 жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to acknowledge the fact that Disney owns almost every shit that comes on tv?
@AlexYBITW8 жыл бұрын
Ernie Essuah Mensah They are taking over the world ... Slowly, but surely ... The Empire will rise !
@colinaskey37337 жыл бұрын
I do not mind, as long as they do not ruin our childhood with remakes and give me mickey ears :v
@ytubegmailusername6 жыл бұрын
Ernest Essuah Mensah Welcome, now you are less ignorant. Disney, News Corp, Comcast, and Time Warner own almost everything we consume. 4 massive media conglomerates that can be dangerous if not checked.
@ZeroTwo-gd5nq5 жыл бұрын
Didn't even knew Disney owned ABC until the end of the video
@Elias62338 жыл бұрын
"The original plans for the station I kept there..."
@SCHEFFyt8 жыл бұрын
"...are they not?"
@sebastieno.16148 жыл бұрын
I forgot what character said that Argghhhhh
@rawritzcat72988 жыл бұрын
Sebastien O. Tarkin said that
@rawritzcat72988 жыл бұрын
The Scheffinator "Well, yes.."
@Elias62338 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you, couldn't figure out the last part
@VoiceNerd8 жыл бұрын
I do love what they did for each character. As for the ethics of CGI deceased actors? I would say it's a case-by-case basis. Sometimes people will give their approval and sometimes it serves the story and more than just an ad for Twinkies. It honestly depends on "who" and "what."
@gandralf8 жыл бұрын
Now the marketing department tries to convince us that such job wasn't a PS4-level animation.
@nerfgod3148 жыл бұрын
Ikr funny that Disney owns ABC and they are doing a report promoting how advanced ILM's (also owned by Disney technically) effects are
@Agivsman8 жыл бұрын
Totally agree though I am currently being flamed in comments for stating the same as a 3d artist ..
@isaiahdaniels56438 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean a ps4 hardware level render? The animation of a 3d model has nothing to do with what hardware it's rendered on. You obviously are totally ignorant as to how computer graphics in film are created. Blindly cynical. To respond directly, no, they didn't re-create Tarkin in Little Big Planet and After Effects it in.
@dragoxphere33418 жыл бұрын
Stop whining. A PS4 would never be able to render them in real time. Please do some research before trying to act competent in the field. They looked fine, and most people didn't even realize that they were full CGI
@reaktorleak898 жыл бұрын
I almost think they should have hired Naughty Dog to do the facial animation. Uncharted 4 has the best facial animation I've ever seen, game or movie.
@Pete4.8 жыл бұрын
You want makeup and prosthetics? They already tried that back in Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith. Young Tarkin in that movie was played by Wayne Pygram. Now I just don't get how everyone is complaining about the Tarkin CGI when it is 10 times better than this: vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/5/5b/Young_Tarkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20071027053245
@Pete4.8 жыл бұрын
...Odo is that you?!
@gabriel.moreno81738 жыл бұрын
Peter Miller cause people are dumb.
@therealjuralumin34168 жыл бұрын
I don’t see why they can’t just use a new actor. It solves the issue of crappy makeup, and the creepy uncanny valley feeling of a CGI face (no matter how well made it might be.) Sure it means the character will look a little different from the original, but it’s really no different to theatre productions where many actors portray the same character over time, and that never bothers anyone. Much like theatre they can just recast the role to someone who fits the description, in fact the guy who played the stand-in for the CGI Tarkin during filming already looked a lot like him, and they used his voice in the film too. So why bother with CGI?
@Lostavar8 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, is that if you don't try it like this first, you don't really push the technology behind it. We kind of need to go through the uncanny valley before we can perfect the art of it
@Sukuraidogai8 жыл бұрын
It's actually not. At least with a real human actor, people used to CGI can tell there's actually a person there on screen. Even if he looks different from the original, at least he looks real.
@AmyEdwards19868 жыл бұрын
Those ILM artists are really geniuses at what they do. When I watched the movie and all those familiar faces coming back to life, I was stunned. That's truly an exceptional work ILM just did. They never disappoint.
@SceneComparisons8 жыл бұрын
on the small screen Tarkin looks flawless, Leia not so much
@VoiceNerd8 жыл бұрын
Really?! Interesting. I feel the opposite. Although I did like Tarkin's appearance some of the scenes were jarring. But I thought with just a couple seconds of Leia they did really well!
@SceneComparisons8 жыл бұрын
Voice Nerd I'm talking about watching him on my smartphone. In the big screen is more noticeable.
@VoiceNerd8 жыл бұрын
Dimitri Bitu ahh gotcha
@henryhill928 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile on the big screen, seeing Tarkin next to real people was jarring and took me right out of the film. Absolutely bizarre that they didn't just cast someone else and use proesthetics and CGI.
@ReghalMihn8 жыл бұрын
Henry Hill I felt the exact same way. I could tell something was off while watching the movie. His movements were "smooth" across the screen.
@mattzelonka11898 жыл бұрын
These artists did a amazing job given he has been gone 20 years. I knew he was part CGI and could care less, the effort was not missed! Bravo!
@Jckuz1man8 жыл бұрын
What percent, like 2% have said the cig is bad? It's great
@jeckerdoesvids51668 жыл бұрын
Its not bad CGI, its just noticeable. it through me off when i first saw it, and I was more distracted trying to figure out if it was actually CGI than focusing on the story itself.
@chestosneakoinc8 жыл бұрын
Marriage is bad!
@Guderian28 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Ecker, yeah it was definitly noticable, especially when you have a "CGI"-character that has rather many scenes. It was still exceptional work and i did love to see Tarkin again. (obviously)
@davidlape89008 жыл бұрын
Chestosneako Inc Divorce is worse.
@millennialretcon83078 жыл бұрын
Not everybody has the same ability to tell the difference between real humans from impostors. Disney will probably be able to replace their screenwriters with next gen chatbots in a few years and only a few will complain.
@SNAKES6008 жыл бұрын
i think peter cushing would be happy about this. i think he would feel honored to be brought back to the screen after all these years. most of us once we die only our families will remember us but this is a way for his memory and legacy to live on in the minds and hearts of people.
@cliffkrahenbill59718 жыл бұрын
Amazing effects. not going lie tarkin and Leia fooled me. I know I forgot about his death.
@Agent_31418 жыл бұрын
Man I love star wars. Just seeing how passionate they are about having the actual looking tarkin and leia on screen instead of replacement actors shows how amazing star wars is
@RJcookiee8 жыл бұрын
I was blown away when I seen them both in the movie, I think they did a fantastic job with the CGI. the only reason some ppl didn't like it and thought the CGI was shit, is because they knew the person is dead or now old so The CGI stood out more. that's what i think
@unitruth8 жыл бұрын
I stayed away from spoilers before I watched this movie.When I saw Tarkin and Leia my jaw dropped. ..... That was the desired effect and it worked. I loved it. Absolutely fabulous job ILM!
@m138jewski8 жыл бұрын
People just want to find something to bitch at. They did an amazing job
@a.jthomas61328 жыл бұрын
These ILM guys are amazing. Bringing people from the original trilogy to Rogue One had thrilled me in everyway. Star Wars has always push the technology further then what's done. in the past.
@ObiWanKenobi8 жыл бұрын
The answer is the Force
@krispyskywalker74494 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan Kenobi ahhhh General Kenobiii
@ethanrehmann68146 жыл бұрын
I did notice that Leia didn't look like a real human, but the CGI on Tarkin flew right over my head. Well done.
@Mortal91ify8 жыл бұрын
If their families didn't have a problem with them being recreated in CGI then no else should have a problem with it as well. End of story!
@kraftcomics26368 жыл бұрын
my mind was blown. The first time we saw Tarkin in theatres, my friends and I were like: "Psshh. he's not gonna turn arou- Holy crap, he turned around!" And then when we saw the back of Leia, we were like: "They're not gonna show us th- Oh my god! She looks amazing!" not even joking, I cried. And this was before Carrie Fisher passed. I cried because it was Leia.
@death-king18348 жыл бұрын
To quote Darth Vader: ''Impressive. Most impressive.''
@peachieeekins8 жыл бұрын
I was sooo ecstatic to see cushing and fishers appearances in Rogue One... and blown away visually. Knowing this takes place before the original film we NEEDED to have this homage to some of the original cast. Its beautiful and shows great pride in the actors that they do not want to replace their performances with another face....
@filipenunes7168 жыл бұрын
It looks great and during the movie in theater where you can't pause or go back to nitpick if you didn't knew he already had died you couldn't tell it's CGI. I know friends who had no idea the actor had died way back and thought it was a real person.
@AugustBreak7 жыл бұрын
I felt that Tarkin got better as the movie went along. The first shot of him kept making me think of Spy from TF2 for some reason, but as it went on it became far more natural and the last shot of Tarkin looked full on real. All in all the effect is groundbreaking and ILM are continuing to show us why we trust them with our most beloved franchises. Props to all the CG artists working at ILM. They've officially resurrected the dead.
@leodelarosa67818 жыл бұрын
Tarkin, Gold Leader, Red Leader and Princess Leia!!! 🙌👏👏👏
@jean-francoisjoanisse14458 жыл бұрын
Red and gold leader weren't CG. Just used old footage to drop them in there. Fantastic tie in tho!
@leodelarosa67818 жыл бұрын
Jean-Francois Joanisse well, yes, but for me watch Gold and Red Leaders was a fantastic surprise, makes me jump in the cinema!!!!
@gingeralex40098 жыл бұрын
Also, Pignose and Scott
@leodelarosa67818 жыл бұрын
Pacmanman you mean Evazan and Ponda Babba?
@gingeralex40098 жыл бұрын
I remember HelloGreedo calling one of them Cornelius. Any truth in that or is it a joke that's lost on me?
@RCrosbyLyles8 жыл бұрын
The exhilarating experience of seeing Peter Cushing brought back to life is to me the absolute definition of "movie magic." It was astonishing to the point that it was a little scary. Resurrecting these characters with such incredible precision was essential to tying Rogue One into the larger story. The technique seems to have limited acceptable use so it's probably a good thing that it is so difficult and time-consuming to accomplish.
@phantomstrider7 жыл бұрын
Holy crap.. I think we're finally in "the future"
@LepidopteranLiliumoth8 жыл бұрын
When I first saw Tarkin, I honestly thought it was just a really good look alike, finding out he was a digital recreation blew my mind. I'm glad to see that the star wars movies keep pushing special effects in movies like they always have.
@NoblesseOblige-177 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that was CGI. Well done.
@esshoul7 жыл бұрын
U dumb?
@PraxusUK7 жыл бұрын
He's been dead for two decades, surely that should have rung some alarm bells?
@gabriel.tostado14817 жыл бұрын
Noblesse Oblige Nigga
@abyssalrayz94997 жыл бұрын
It kinda looks fake too
@BEaNie_1157 жыл бұрын
“Well then you are lost”
@martagalli97508 жыл бұрын
Just amazing... when I was watching the movie and I saw Tarkin and then Leia I was shocked... my mouth remained open wide for minutes *-* Star Wars continues to be the future of the cinema
@robertslipek73118 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. After the rubbery faced shit from Tron Legacy I had no idea we were even close to this kind of stuff yet.
@376548 жыл бұрын
Obviously not close enough yet.
@robertslipek73118 жыл бұрын
Han Solo well since it's a matter of capturing human expressions that's obviously very subjective. some people didn't even know he was a cgi character.
@Blckztr8 жыл бұрын
say what you want but they did a really good job wig Tarkin
@timefilm8 жыл бұрын
As someone who works with visual effects and strive for realism every time I can tell you now -this work is superb! The complaints are simply ignorant.
@Plumbdoggg8 жыл бұрын
I thought Leia looked 10x more realistic than Tarkin.
@Litcott8 жыл бұрын
Joel Cardona - I got uncanny valley vibes from Leia as soon as she appeared but for whatever reason hadn't questioned Tarkin at all, maybe because his scenes weren't as brightly lit? idk but I find it interesting how different people react differently to the recreations. Pretty soon they'll have cgi people who're 100% indistinguishable from real actors.
@DerHerrMitR8 жыл бұрын
As a German singer-songwriter once wrote: Art is more than just the craft, art is magic.
@unhelpfulrevelations79897 жыл бұрын
I could tell Tarkin and Leia were CGI after just a few seconds, but dang, it still looked so good. Better than the best videogame graphics. There's definitely room for improvement, but I can't see anything topping this for a good 10 years. There is of course the whole 'ethical' question, but I think these are done in good taste. There will have to be some rules set in motion once this kind of thing gets common, though.
@kennysmith19257 жыл бұрын
There is no cgi in the world or in existence that it is so good it looks like a real person. This is probably the best we have
@noahwayne70958 жыл бұрын
Half the time Tarkin CGI was good, the other half it just looked off. The Leia CGI was pretty bad though. I suppose because it was in a well lit background.
@TheForeverSocks8 жыл бұрын
in the theatre i saw it at i didnt even notice Tarkin was animated and i had suspicion princess leia was
@Solarstar108 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work. Watching this both Leia and Tarkin look even better than I remember. I really don't understand the negative complaints.
@fenixdorigami8 жыл бұрын
ILM is really awesome :D
@LeShark758 жыл бұрын
Having avoided anything and everything to do with Rogue One, in an effort to avoid spoilers, my jaw hit the floor when I saw Peter Cushing on screen again. Infact, I'll hold my hands up here, I nearly wept as the waves of nostalgia washed over me. Amazing effects.
@MCLegoking48 жыл бұрын
Actually thought tarkin was alive watching it for the first time..
@StephanieLærkeAndersen8 жыл бұрын
Aww, bless them both. We miss both Carrie Fisher and Peter Cushing. Peter Cushing would've been thrilled with the result had he been alive today. I think it's a fitting tribute to Peter Cushing. Actors no longer with us will always be immortalised on film, and I think it's great that we can bring them back this way. For all the people that complain about the fact that they look a little artificial, look at the tremendous work that has gone into making these CGI characters. It's quite astonishing.
@FMFvideos8 жыл бұрын
necromancers!
@LLEntertainmentChannel8 жыл бұрын
If Peter Cushing were alive to see this? I think he would 100% approve. No one else in the world actually looks like Cushing and the last time they tried makeup, we got that awkward looking cameo in the Revenge of the Sith. I loved every moment of Tarkin's role in Rogue One and I loved all the other CGI recreated characters. Great job, ILM.
@Winchester-xw8uy8 жыл бұрын
Wait....Disney owns ABC??
@dericjames20188 жыл бұрын
Shakheel George Yes and also ESPN I think.
@emperorpig48378 жыл бұрын
and marvel, the muppets
@Wade_Fucking_Wilson7 жыл бұрын
Deric James yo
@Ntyler01mil5 жыл бұрын
Disney owns everything.
@okdenisse8 жыл бұрын
Why are people hating? The fact that they got Leia and Tarkin too look so flawless was so incredible. It's genius!
@Mythic28278 жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT FACT: John Knoll: Inventor of Photoshop :D
@Physionic8 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice either were CGI, they did a great job.
@CarlaGobatti8 жыл бұрын
ACTIVATE THE SUBTITLES PLEASE!
@Keice3708 жыл бұрын
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@CarlaGobatti8 жыл бұрын
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@CamGold8 жыл бұрын
execute order 66.
@bernardjr.68818 жыл бұрын
This is why don't complain about CGI, so much time and work go into it, you just gotta respect it.
@falleneldor8 жыл бұрын
while this was certainly Impressive, I don't want to see this become normal. Let the dead R.I.P. I'd hate for them to think they can do this with Carry Fisher for Episode IX...I'd rather they change whatever story they have planned and morn Leia's off camera death on film. It would be cathartic...Digital resurrection just seams inappropriate to me. Even with the family's approval, that doesn't mean anything if people are just going to "cash in" on their dead families. (not implying Cushing's family did this, just that others will inevitably) I wouldn't want anyone digitally resurrecting me, putting words into my mouth. It's disrespectful. We are people, not digital effects. A long dead actor once famously said, "We are not machine men, with machine minds'... All that said. The technology is extremely impressive. From an artistic POV, I can appreciate what they have accomplished.
@Howl148 жыл бұрын
they probably wont CGI Carrie Fisher in Episode 9 but if they did it would probably just be one scene and the technology would have improved by then
@theebigda8 жыл бұрын
How about the young Arnold in the last Terminator movie fighting the real older Arnold? I thought that was done really well!!
@Ghosty64647 жыл бұрын
Shawn It was only really done because it was a prequel. Tarkin is 100% absolutely vital to the creation of the Death Star. Not mentioning him would be really unfulfilling for Rogue One. I can see the grey area because he's dead, but his character was very important. I don't see it any different than another actor playing his role. Having another actor would be almost the same thing, as the actor would wear makeup and clothes to seem like Tarkin.
@Rushes998 жыл бұрын
The studio has done a marvellous job on creating CGI characters, thumbs up from me! :)
@Tomtycoon8 жыл бұрын
1:58 what the hell?
@ndps978 жыл бұрын
Tomtycoon deleted scene maybe?!?
@Harrib238 жыл бұрын
Screen test
@tommyboi19798 жыл бұрын
Sorry? Whats going on at 1:59 - there is a scene with Tarkin & Leia but it looks like it was filmed for Rogue One?
@garystuart23338 жыл бұрын
I want them to CGI me after I die and put me a Star Wars movie! That would be Awesome!
@ms.talmania49058 жыл бұрын
what these tech geeks have done is absolutely incredible. people say "you could totally tell they're fake." Like what do you want? a Charlie Brown animation of one of the most legendary character ever in this professionally made movie? I think it's awesome that Rogue One brought Tarkin back to the big screen. It was refreshing. I can't say if I want them to do the same with Princess Leia in Episode 9, but we'll see.
@JR-he6fn5 жыл бұрын
Don’t Star Wars own the likenesses to these characters? Like every young Obi wan looks like Ewan mcgregor. All Han recreations in video games or toys look like Harrison Ford etc.
@Skulldetta5 жыл бұрын
It's different when it's a live-action movie with the digital recreation of a dead man. They had to ask permission from Cushing's estate to go forward with the idea.
@IngolfLau5 жыл бұрын
@@Skulldetta How is it different legally? Have you read every contract the actors signed?
@jerp13675 жыл бұрын
@@IngolfLau I don't think you have. He DED. Even if they had the "right," I don't think they have the MORAL right. they did the right thing by asking first.
@mere97015 жыл бұрын
Have you read the credits when the movie ends?
@JohnnyBeane8 жыл бұрын
Amazing job ILM and this was the best Star Wars film since Empire.
@ArchoniusXXVII8 жыл бұрын
Those who object are idiots. They brought an actor and his character back to life in a film adding to the story where he already appeared. I don't think of this process in this application any different than using prosthetic makeup.
@da5idnz8 жыл бұрын
I don't object. I just didn't think it was believable.
@shipwreck91468 жыл бұрын
I thought it was believable at first, but then after the movie I was like, "Wait, that actor should have died of old age by now, wow, he was totally CGI.
@MarshmallowHatChicks8 жыл бұрын
I think it's great that they're doing this. It's like extra appreciation for the characters we loved without using them to sell items or stupid things like that.
@SethMcFartlane8 жыл бұрын
Should have just hired two actors that look like them. It would have been far cheaper and it wouldn't have looked fake.
@darkpro00318 жыл бұрын
dude there is no such thing, even if they had! they would need his voice actor too.
@SethMcFartlane8 жыл бұрын
diogo santos How can you say there's no such thing and in the same sentence say the voice actor, Guy Henry, exists. They didn't hire him purely for his voice. A *real* person who looks close enough is better than a CGI creation that doesn't look real.
@DeyemensionTV8 жыл бұрын
Close enough is not a standard in professional film making. People tend to want to get immerse with the story and character, and if they hired a "close enough" looking guy to replace the original actor in a previous movie, all you're gonna get is people complaining about why is the person different and ETC. Plus, these kinds of CGI work help push the boundaries of our CG technology. It's good to have challenge and to learn new things to keep progressing anyway.
@martinh13098 жыл бұрын
SethMcFartlane the star wars saga is all about continuity, if tarkin had been a completly different man 2 hours before we again see him in a new hope it would have been far worse than actually recreating him digitally in a very good way
@SethMcFartlane8 жыл бұрын
Eugene Miller Yeong "Close enough is not a standard in professional film making." It very much is. All the more evident under a video of a "close enough" CGI recreation of an actor. The original Palpatine was played by two different actors in Empire and Jedi. There are tons of examples of different actors playing the same character in different movies. People will get over it quickly. What they won't get over, particularly in a handful of years, is awful CGI. This film will fate as poorly as the effects in the prequels.
@Grytvanten8 жыл бұрын
Peter Cushing aka Grand Moff Tarkin was amazing back in his days, as with todays DA work, bringing him back to life, made me drop my jaw to the floor. I knew Grand Moff Tarkin would appear in Rogue One as a CGI character, I knew he would be, as many of you call it, "fake". But I choose to accept it, to see the great art in the scenes. I was surprised to see GMT appear in such many scenes, I was, before the Rogue One, convinced that he would just appear brief as a "fan service", but, he actually played a main role, and he did it brilliantly.
@J2Bman8 жыл бұрын
Best CGI human to date, still a huge fail...
@AlanBondFilms8 жыл бұрын
Just being a Joe Public movie fan, I was blown away on how Peter Cushing was recreated for this movie. It was simply amazing. As one who appreciates the work that goes into special effects from Méliès to the latest effects, I can't see why that eventually the great movie stars of the past can not be recreated as well. I find absolutely nothing wrong with it.
@gabrieleriva6518 жыл бұрын
I had preferred to see just Guy Henry in makeup, honestly.
@shipwreck91468 жыл бұрын
I guess it's all a matter of opinion. I greatly preferred the CGI version.
@jimhughes59358 жыл бұрын
james wasda the eyes were just a bit off
@jmorales098 жыл бұрын
Gabriele Riva This takes place just before ANH. Having a different actor wouldn't make sense.
@gabrieleriva6518 жыл бұрын
Joe Kerr Suspension of disbelief. Hundreds of characters had different actors, nobody ever was hurt fo rthat.
@jmorales098 жыл бұрын
Gabriele Riva Yeah, but the prequels took place decades before the OT.
@PlanetCalvin8 жыл бұрын
Even though you can tell it is a CGI character, it is the best recreation I've ever seen. After seeing this I feel like it was only so good because they found that old cast of the actor.
@allluckyseven8 жыл бұрын
"Seamless"
@allluckyseven8 жыл бұрын
***** Except it's not.
@thezantgeneral6778 жыл бұрын
+allluckyseven it is.
@allluckyseven8 жыл бұрын
If it were... People wouldn't have noticed it is CGI.
@thezantgeneral6778 жыл бұрын
allluckyseven If people didn't come into the movie knowing it's CGI, or knew that Cushing is long dead, they surely wouldn't notice.
@allluckyseven8 жыл бұрын
The Zant General The X-wing fighters that were added from deleted scenes of the original movie still look real because they act like real people. Tarkin in RO doesn't. He barely moves. If you compare him in RO against the real Tarkin in ANH, you'll see a huge difference in performance. His model can be very accurate, but the animation isn't lifelike.
@ericscottstevens8 жыл бұрын
When I saw the young Lea (FIsher) at the end of the movie, all the sudden I was transformed to the summer of 1977. I felt 7 years old again.......for a moment.
@paulknight99988 жыл бұрын
Even the still picture of Leia looked fake
@bluepizzacats4life717 жыл бұрын
Honestly I was to distracted by everything else about the movie to notice if anything was "off" about the CGI. It's amazing to see the work they put into this. Maybe one day they'll be able to make it look completely real.
@mksongbird8 жыл бұрын
still using shots that didn't make it into the final cut.
@atxjazz12828 жыл бұрын
I had no idea he was CGI, tbh. That was truly phenomenal work.
@lesryglrhfohser8 жыл бұрын
people from the future i'll tell you we did not think those effects looked good in 2016, don't believe this video!