How Sauron Corrupted Numenor - Middle-Earth Second Age Lore DOCUMENTARY

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Previously in our series on the world of Tolkien, the world of the Lord of the Rings, we have talked about the First and Third ages of the Middle-Earth, covering the entire of the Third Age and the war of the ring ( • War of the Ring - All ... ), the rise of Morgoth in the First Age ( • Rise of Morgoth - Midd... ) and his fall ( • Fall of Morgoth - Midd... ), as well as the economy and the societies of the Middle-Earth ( • Economy of Middle Eart... ). Our new season will describe the Second Age of the Tolkien's creation. In the first video, we saw how the humans, elves and dwarves tried to rebuilt in the aftermath of the War of the Wrath in the First Age and sinking of Beleriand ( • Second Age Begins! - M... ). In the second episode, we will see how Morgoth's lieutenant Sauron managed to replace him as the Dark lord by creating the Rings of Power and the One Ring to Rule them all ( • This is how Sauron Rep... ). And while Sauron was gaining power, we will see how the proud island kingdom of Numenor was slowly getting corrupted through pride and avarice, and how Ar-Pharazôn came to power ( • Numenor: Pride, Hubris... ). Sauron used the hubris and pride of the Numenoreans and when they took him hostage, he managed to corrupt them even further, leading to the Numenor's failed attempt to launch the invasion of Aman. In this episode we will discuss why and how Numenor was sunk by Eru Iluvatar.
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[@cpltrickie]

Apparently, one can simply walk into Mordor, if you have a large Army from Numenor.

[@Lokrio9]

Maybe that is what Boromir implied: simply walking into Mordor caused Nummenor's destruction...

[@MM22966]

@@Lokrio9 Never even thought of it until now, but maybe it was a Gondorian saying/bitter pithy curse of the Third Age, when most of the power and glory of the Western Men had gone. Something along a half-spoken phrase of "One cannot simply walk into Mordor...anymore".

[@Lokrio9]

@@MM22966 it could be that, too.

[@CromlixQuartz]

Sauron is such a goat of a villain. Two steps back, three steps forward.

[@myriadmediamusings]

Sauron's triumph over Numenor was so great that it required full divine intervention and changing the very shape of the world itself. Not even Morgoth did something so drastic that it required an Eru Ex Machina.

[@gregrenox9644]

​@@myriadmediamusingsTrue, the fact that Valar and Eru himself doesn't give a single shits about War of Simarillion and Morgoth action. But instead furious too Morgoth right hand man and Numenor, just by attempting to invade Aman. Is such a funny and kinda show the duality of a characters of Valar and Eru himself. But personally i think i know trully why Morgoth is content by just rulling Middle Earth and doesn't antagonize Valar and Eru in the first age. Sauron knew this too and instead of him directlly antagonize Eru so instead he use Numenor as a proxy, to prove his theory. And we knew what happen next.

[@MyHandelsMessiah]

@@myriadmediamusings"Eru Ex Machina" is hilarious 🤣

[@lalallallagunwolaaaa]

@@myriadmediamusings Well he actually did, Eru also intervened against Morgoth at end of First Age. ''We read that he was then thrust out into the Void.(10) That should mean that he was put outside Time and Space, outside Ea altogether; but if that were so this would imply a direct intervention of Eru (with or without supplication of the Valar). It may however refer inaccurately *to the extrusion or flight of his spirit from Arda.''

[@lalallallagunwolaaaa]

@@gregrenox9644 The Valar did not intervene against Morgoth for much of First Age because Arda would be destroyed, they waited for him to weaken himself. Tolkien explained it ''If we consider the situation after the escape of Morgoth and the reëstablishment of his abode in Middle-earth, we shall see that the heroic Noldor were the best possible weapon with which to keep Morgoth at bay, virtually besieged, and at any rate fully occupied, on the northern fringe of Middle-earth, without provoking him to a frenzy of nihilistic destruction.'' The reason why the Valar did not help the Ñoldor was because that was precisely the plan.

[@dominiccarone948]

5:01. Ar-Pharazon simply walks into Mordor. Nice vintage meme reference!

[@ALIKN1-1]

I am happy I am not the only one who heard it 😂

[@fgtrhwu2]

5:00 "Ar-Pharazon was able to simply walk into Mordor" See Boromir, it can be done

[@senpainoticeme9675]

To be fair to Boromir, by the end of the 3rd Age, that tale must have been considered a myth if any history of it remained in the archives of the Dunedain.

[@nohbuddy1]

​@@senpainoticeme9675 It's a joke dude

[@SymphonyofPower]

I simply love the "Ar-Pharazon was able to simply walk into Mordor" line at 5:00 :D

[@richardthomas9497]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Isildur stealing a fruit of Nimloth the night before it was cut down, even suffering grievous wounds from the Guards. Isildur would later plant the seed at Minas Ithil (later Minas Morgul), until Sauron invaded and cut the tree down. However, while escaping with his wife and children, Isildur would once again rescue a seedling of the white tree. I hope to see this in the next Second Age video.

[@DaHuuudge]

“One does not simply walk into Mordor.” Ar-Pharazon: “Hold my beer.”

[@laabitres]

Sauron is the definition of "Im not locked in here with you, You're locked in here with MEEEEE!"

[@myriadmediamusings]

In sinking Numenor and changing the shape of the world, Eru Illuvatar unintentionally created a new, annoying threat and pest: Flat Arders who are insistent that Arda always has been flat.

[@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

no no no the Arda globers who are insistent that Arda always has been a globe everybody know that Arda used to be Flat first before it was a globe after all it's just science (i think?)

[@oguzhanenescetin5702]

@@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS This is wrong tho. According to later writings Arda was ALWAYS globe it was just a legend among elves and men that it was flat... So flat earthers are canon in lotr

[@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

@@oguzhanenescetin5702 oh my ERU the elves are flat earthers and they look like such good peoples it's like i don't them anymore

[@leeboy26]

ONE ENT, TWO TOWERS

[@Enerdhil]

​@@oguzhanenescetin5702 It is true that Tolkien changed his mind about the shape of Arda in later writings, BUT he never went back into the lore to fix everything he had to fix. For example, the Undying Lands are only visible from Numenor because the world is flat. Also, when Fëanor lit the Teleri ships, they were only visible because Arda was flat. These kinds of things you can't just write off as a misunderstanding of the Elves and Men. Tolkien did not rewrite anything affected by the changing of Arda to always being round.

[@royouyong2131]

The video wrongly shows the Great Armament sailing from the east coast of Numenor to Aman. In reality it was constructed and launched in the west

[@nooshoff]

@@davidgoldman1452agreed

[@kelukandu9871]

Hmmm...

[@michaelfisher7170]

Yes this is correct. By the time of the gathering of the great armament the king had commanded that the faithful remove themselves from the west of Numenor to Rommena in the east. The fleet was supplied znd mustered from those ports. Rommena was an internal exile for rebels.

[@Rdude4444]

If you like pointing out lore inaccuracies you should watch the rings of power

[@LDW12887]

Lol "in reality" in a fictional world.... the state of tryhards.

[@wedgeantillies66]

Sauron’s capture and transfer to Numenor is the last straw that broke the camels back. As making use of the corruption at the heart of the kingdom, he pitted poison in those already morally bankrupt and led them to the moment, where their own destruction and that of their isle would be unavoidable.

[@MM22966]

I was suprised in this and the previous videos. Most histories I have read before this seemed to lay the blame mostly on Sauron for ruining Numenor and twisting them, but they had apparently done most of the work themselves. The bastard must have been chortling in glee when he finally laid eyes on Al-Pharazon and his courtiers.

[@wedgeantillies66]

@@MM22966 Agreed, the corruption and evil had already taken route at the heart of Numenor and especially amongst those of the king's men. All Sauron had to do was to give them the final push over the edge of the abyss to destruction and ruin, through instating worship of Morgoth, practice of human sacrifice and assault on the west.

[@thespyingeyeofmordor]

I hope we can get Isildur's infiltration of Ar-Pharazon's court just to grab a fruit of the White Tree.

[@richardthomas9497]

Isildur was such a badass to rescue a fruit of Nimloth, even suffering grievous wounds in the process. I was surprised it wasn't mentioned here.

[@pathfinder2reality]

Great video as always. You should've shown Queen Miriel climbing the mountain of Meneltharma as the giant wave approached and swallowed both her and Numenor. I always imagine that picture when reading about the Downfall of Numenor.

[@johanlassen6448]

The Valar and Eru were both a-holes for that though. Miriel was loyal to them and still was not spared.

[@TA-yw7ce]

Then she should have goen with elendil Numenor was rotten to the core

[@davidwhitfield6025]

Yes I was surprised she was not at least mentioned and her bid to reach the high point and failing by just a few steps. Damned for loving a man so evil and staying with him when she should have left. I suppose Tolkein saw her as an example of Lot's wife. Just a theory.

[@karthago1469]

In most cases where gods intervene, innocents die too. That's why they did not intervene in the 3rd age

[@davidwhitfield6025]

@@karthago1469 Agree, that's why they sent the Istari. The Gods destroyed the land they came to save to capture Morgroth. Direct intervention was not possible although really it was also not necessary as Sauron, for all his intelligence and seeming power was still just one fallen Maiar who (unless he got his ring back) was even at full strength. All it took was one Istari, Men, and couple of Hobbits to bring him down.

[@USBearForce]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that the War of the Last Alliance wasn’t simply a battle of Good VS Evil. It was a grudge match. The Faithful in their Kingdoms-In-Exile had a score to settle.

[@jonbaxter2254]

"One does not simply walk into Mordor" Ar-Pharazon: Watch this drive...

[@jackoboyle7749]

Inspiring work, it really gets me riled up when you see such a virtuous Kingdom like Numenor be brought low by its own weakness! Did tolkien ever write a detailed account of the Dagor Dagoreth for it would be awesome to see the Great Armament redeem itself against Morgoth and Sauron. Oh P.S. I know I'm a pain, but when is the next alt history releasing. It's the most enthralling thing I've seen on this channel. The writing is so authentic. Cheers.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Because some people just don’t appreciate what they have. Not until it’s gone

[@mennorach]

So we don't know how large army Ar-Pharazon had, but he must have had more than ten thousand, when he simply walked into Mordor :)

[@ben5056]

"Was able to simply walking into Mordor" I see what you did there ;)

[@Arashmickey]

I love how in the ME:CCG you can still visit the remains of Thangorodrim even after it sank in the first age, it always made me wonder what Numenor drowned would look like.

[@CloudSephiroth]

If I was a numenorean- I would be super chill and just teach other men dope ish. It’s called the “undying lands” because the folks that live there don’t die, not because when you touch the land you become immortal.”

[@MuratKeremOzcan]

This is my favorite channel because of the Tolkien coverage. Can't wait for the next video.

[@__Sauron_]

Will we get a full second age breakdown later in the future like how you made a 4hr video about the first age? Hope we do because that 4hr video was amazing

[@RuinsOfGondolin]

bro these videos are so good produced it demotivates me

[@KsieciuZla]

Ok so if Ar-Pharazon and his army are waiting until Dagor Dagorath to be called upon then which side do you guys think they will take?

[@myriadmediamusings]

They’ll attack both because Ar-Pharazon is just that petty and arrogant.

[@fipse]

Since Tolkien ever had a positive outlook, on the side of the Valar. If Feanor can redeem himself after the Dafor Dagorbath so can Ar-Pharazon and his men.

[@boneless_chicken1]

Unintentionally they did become immortal

[@Wolfeson28]

I’m guessing it’s a similar situation to the Dead Men of Dunharrow. They will have to earn their redemption and final rest by fighting for they side they were always supposed to but turned away from.

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

Well, not on Morgoth's. They don't hate the other Dunedain as much as they hate Sauron for tricking them.

[@MJC1891]

Great early Christmas present. Thank you

[@bobthepervyuncle]

Boromir: "No one can simply walk into Mordor." Ar-P the G: "Beg your pardon?"

[@Davout86]

Merci de ce beau cadeau ! Joyeux Noël à l'équipe ainsi qu'à tous les spectateurs !

[@mikemodugno5879]

Awesome video. Merry Christmas, Wizards and Warriors.

[@user-sd7ri9fy4i]

Nice work dude thanks

[@WhoIsCalli]

Really enjoyed this series. Great stuff as always

[@Michaelkayslay]

Sauron and palpatine... knew they couldn't win by sheer force. So corrupted and played them to their own downfall

[@jedimaster6673]

Excellent Video 😎👍

[@PiscatorLager]

So some people do just walk into Mordor, after all.

[@robbabcock_]

Wonderful video!

[@eugenebraxton2987]

Amazing as usual

[@MonkehMike]

I love the universe which Tolkien created! And another universe that I like almost, if not just as much, is The Elder Scrolls. Thank you for making these videos :)

[@Radonatorr]

Despite his arrogance and eventuall downfall, the might and prowess of Ar-Pharazon was such that even the later Gondorians, descendants of the Faithfull, had to recognize it. They remembered the landing of the Numenorean fleet in Umbar and Sauron's defeat and humbling at Ar-Pharazon's hand with pride and in memory of that event constructed in Umbar a monument called the White Pillar. It was a great pillar of white stone with a crystal globe set on top. The globe absorbed the rays of the Sun or the Moon and shone like a star that could, in clear weather, be seen far out to sea or even upon the south coasts of Gondor. The White Pillar stood in Umbar, in honour of Ar-Pharazon, for centuries. No matter if the city was at the time controlled by Gondorians or the Black Numenoreans - descendants of King's Men - it remained undisturbed. That changed only around year 2951 of the Third Age, 9 years after Bilbo returned from his adventures with Gandalf and the dwarves. That's when Sauron returned and Umbar was captured by his servants. Sauron couldn't stand the sight of such memorial of his humiliation, so he ordered the White Pillar destroyed. This kinda shows that Ar-Pharazon was not such a white-and-black character, and parts of his legacy were celebrated by the "good guys" and hated by the "bad guys".

[@user-rc4xf2cm2d]

When it will come the next video? Awesome job so far :)

[@JS-we2et]

Would be awesome if you could do a history of the “Forgotten Realms” ! Elminster saga or R.A Salvador’s “ Drizzt Do urden “

[@talamioros]

Just a comment here to say--please cover the Malazan Book of the Fallen! Even just the Chain of Dogs alone is already chock full of fantastic battles, much less the 10 books combined!

[@PenguinofD00mxxx]

love this series

[@ihtashamafzal5678]

Please upload video of First Law World 🙂

[@Zantides]

Sauron, the early Grima Wormtongue.

[@robertshaw1793]

Love all of the videos! Now i can say i know a bit more of Tolkien's work. You guys should check out Warcrafts lore!

[@primetime3422]

U should do a videos series on Avatar the Last Airbender

[@saratmodugu2721]

That is dead ass such a good idea❤

[@richardthomas9497]

I would like to see that too. It was my favourite cartoon at the time. Imagine how W&W would show their journey across the world of the Four Nations. Including the set piece battles of the Northern Water Tribe, Giant Drill and the Day of the Black Sun, etc.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

I hope Rings of Power S2 could improve a lot.

[@crabberdabberye]

It will cover the war of the elves and sauron.

[@elizabethtaylor8428]

I am really enjoying the content of this channel. It seems the theme of the Second Age was based on both jealousy and foolish pride.

[@johnmitchell4043]

brilliant

[@atanubiswas8201]

Next video...Grand Admiral Thrawn?

[@silverchairsg]

Grand Admiral Thrawn, of the fleet of the Valar that sailed to Middle Earth and made war against Morgoth for the sake of the Elves.

[@SeNs3NoEviL]

Still waiting for the follow up video

[@marlonbascombe3427]

Simply walk into Mordor 😂😂😂

[@joshcoleson8707]

When do new ones come out!?

[@ewok40k]

One doesnt simply walk into Mordor. Except Numenorias at peak power.

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

Well, he had more than ten thousand, that's for sure.

[@basilisgkotsis4042]

Sauron is the Ultimate Chaos Dark God and Dark Lord of Middle-Earth

[@Subninja2012]

Man, how terrible it would have been if Amazon just made this story lore accurate. Lol. But we Guy-ladriel instead. Girrrrrl power!

[@Enerdhil]

It is unfixable at this point. Their dumpster fire is about to go nuclear.🔥🤯

[@shintownalley]

This story should have been the Amazon series. (Instead of letting A.I. write it. Lol)

[@HorizonsleatherBlogspot2012]

Right? lol

[@Enerdhil]

McCay and Payne clearly have artificial intelligence.🤪

[@SKOceanicFE]

When are we getting more Cosmere ? 😞

[@henrikg1388]

Good video in general, but there are some key points that I will constantly disagree on. Firstly, you state that it was the greatest army since The Host of Valinor in The War of Wrath. I would say that this Numenorean army was superior to the one led by Ëonwe and his force, that consisted mainly of elves and perhaps many Maiar, including himself, but there is no evidence of any Vala participating. If not for the fact that Numenor had surpassed even their siblings, but even their parents at this point, not in the least because of the hints of their level of technology, but also mastering sorcery, you will have to take the sheer numbers into account. Elves and even Maiar leaders along with their ranks and their ancestral Edain, never counted in more than the numbers of tens of thousands. Numenor is said to be the home of about 15 millions of long lived super-humans, possessing less of the flaws of their middle man cousins, but at the same time being physically stronger and more martially prone, plus the previously stated technological advantage and level of sorcery. They could field an army of millions, and still possessing some things like steel bows and ballistas, flying ships and unknown magic. The small remnants of what they could do is evident in the construction of the Argonauth, Orthanc and the defensive outer wall of Minas Tirith. I would say that they were superior to The Host of Valinor at that point and would have defeated it, if not by sheer numbers alone. They would probably be able to crush Mordor's forces as well, but would have been unable to deal with an unkillable Morgoth, even if captured. I say that they were the mightiest army ever fielded during the three ages, period. They were just unable to deal with the Valar, who had specific powers of doom and prophecy and were "unkillable", in a sense. Any force of arms posed against them in their attack on Valinor would have easily been swept away, with the exception of beings like Manwë and Mandos who held exceptional powers over prophecy, doom and foresight. THAT is the main reason that they laid down their lordship and called for Eru to intervene The Numenorean forces would have wreaked havoc in the Undying lands, even if they could never have "won". Secondly, your statement that Sauron's forces by 3220s were miniscule and could have been taken on by the elves of ME (with the dwarves and loyal middle men), just doesn't pass the smell test. He tried that 1500 years earlier and would have been successful, if a not a much smaller Numenorean army hadn't come to the rescue. By this time he held most of ME under his sway, with a huge force of orcs and trolls, plus the men of the East and South as allies. He hadn't yet suffered death of his body and he had his Ring. He was arguably the most powerful Maia to ever have existed and the mightiest servant of Aulë and Melkor himself in the past. He was at the peak of his power, and still all his forces abandoned him in terror and fear. Sauron, the master of domination and terror boosted by his Ring. It wasn't a calculated move at all. He was shocked by what he was facing and his armies reaction, but wisely and quickly devised a strategy of infiltration instead of running away, but it was by no means a pre-calculated move on his side, and it ultimately failed since Numenoreans played a key role in defeating him shortly after, and ultimately defeating him for good some three millenia down the line. If he ever had the power to crush them through sheer force, it would logically be his best move and Sauron wasn't stupid. The Valar wouldn't have intervened, such as they never did in favor of mortal men. They always royally fu*ked things up and always played favoritism towards the elder children. In fact, this is the single most morally dubious event in the Tolkien Legendarium, that reflect the worst part of the nihilistic and genocidal god of the old testament, most distant from the Christian God. They first give them a long lifespan and a realm that is within sight of the Undying lands, but they cannot go there. Only the other way around. They just have to kiss immortal asses and be content with it. And when they finally and understandably get pissed off about the situation, without any good explanation, the one true God decides to simply murder untold millions of women and children, that presumably didn't have a say in the matter. A god like that, doesn't deserve worship, IMHO. Not saying that Melkor/Morgoth or Sauron was better, but they were at least given the choice of judgement and forgiveness. But I guess the were "finer stock". I would like to presume that Tolkien wrote the story this way to provoke our feelings of morality, but I fear that he was just trapped in the moral conundrum that gave rise to early Christian sects, such as Marcionism and Gnosticism, and have never really been resolved.

[@Rdude4444]

You should check out rings of power

[@kieferkarpfen6897]

​@@Rdude4444He will die from a heartattack.

[@oguzhanenescetin5702]

Well you are wrong because Tolkien specifically told us that Morgoths armies were greater. Magic? Eonwe and his hosts crushed a continent. Osse alone would destroy Numenor and all of its armies.

[@henrikg1388]

@@oguzhanenescetin5702 No, he wouldn't. Sauron didn't stand a chance and neither would Ossë. He did rise Numenor out of the sea, but there is no telling of how much time and power it took. It is no indication whatsoever that he had the power to face them martially. And what you seem to not grasp is that the Ainur lost their power gradually over time. In the beginning when Arda was shaped, they may have had extreme powers, but it is not known how much time or power it would take. At the beginning of the 2nd Age they were no longer those shaping gods. They were guardians, and not very good ones either.

[@oguzhanenescetin5702]

@@henrikg1388 Oh no. Osse raised Numenor at the beginning of the Second Age so that was not really an “ancient time” and Tolkien said in his letters that Numenor would only cause “trouble” in Valinor but only a trouble nothing so significant. It is stated that Osse raised other islands other than Numenor with only one of his hands ( I can provide quotes ) so he doesn’t need to spend much time either. In the Lost Tales Sauron lifts the navy of Numenor and swipes them down with a single display of power and Tolkien noted that he couldn’t be captured ( his servants could ) if he wanted to. Numenor would be doomed by a random powerfull Maia.

[@theawesomeman9821]

Any update on Amazon?

[@lucasjleandro]

Run to the Seas, Run for you lives

[@Enerdhil]

Don't you mean run for the mountain! Climb to the top!

[@Pentagathusosaurus]

A Christmas miracle

[@Aleks_E96]

Which video shows the last battle of the first age? Please anyone can show me?

[@Enerdhil]

It's called The War of Wrath. Maybe you can find it under that title.

[@davidmiddleton7958]

Sauron was able to corrupt the Numenorians due to the Shadow left by Morgoth in all Men. Also, the arrogance & intransigence of the Numenorians!

[@erikcea449]

4:58 i see what you guys did there lol

[@christopherg2347]

"Arrogance and stupidity, all in the same package. How efficient of you." - Londo Molari, Centauri Ambassador to earth.

[@Zantides]

High Priest Sauron 😂😂

[@npierce14]

I’ve always wondered Why didn’t Sauron go with them

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

Wasn't Sauron wearing the One Ring during all of this?

[@anonymouslyopinionated656]

he may not have been physically wearing it on his hand

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Please more mongols guys🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

[@user-ho5ul1ye7g]

And maybe maybe or so the back rooms levels

[@pyeitme508]

Wow 😳

[@marcbartuschka6372]

A sad story, and one who shows Eru as nothing less cruel than the enemies of the Valar, since he destroyed not only those who dared to rise up arms against Valinor but also almost all people on the island of Numenor (guilty or not, old or young) and countless more who drowned in Middle Earth without having any hand in the war against the Valar. And the irony is that beside the "good" Numenorians also quite of number of those who followed Sauron survived, the so called Black Numenorians of which we see even a high ranking member in the Lord of the Rings (the Mouth of Sauron).

[@Apollo1989V]

Pretty much everyone who was not of the King’s party was waiting with Elendil.

[@marcbartuschka6372]

@@Apollo1989V Well the queen hardly was the only one who died who was not a loyal servant of the king - I doubt that only nine ships were all what was left inside all of Numenor which was "not of the King`s party". Let children and old aside there were also prisoners and surely people who were neither open followers of Sauron nor his secret enemies but simply lived their live as good as they could under the king as they ever had.

[@johanlassen6448]

@@marcbartuschka6372 Honestly it kind of proves that the Kings men had a point. The Valar and Eru himself do not give a shit about them.

[@Enerdhil]

I have always assumed that Eru's judgments were righteous, so I thought that due to the moral rot and corruption of all Numenorians, Eru had to wipe them all off of the face of Arda, except for the Faithful who were able to escape and who were aided by a strong wind from Manwë. Also, the Black Numenorians that you are referring to did not survive the sinking of Numenor. All those who set sail reached the Undying Lands, where their ships were swallowed up by the ocean. The Black Numenorians had arrived in Umbra and other southern places long before the island was sunk.

[@johanlassen6448]

@@Enerdhil Right, so... the likes of Tar-Miriel who were faithful were killed, while any Black Numenoreans who were not on the island or the invasion fleet got to live and menace the world for centuries to come (hence survived the sinking of Numenor, by which the poster means that the Black Numenoreans continued to exist after the sinking of Numenor). Fair and just indeed...

[@TheUtopianHuman]

The story of the fall of Numenorians is as pretty clear. It's the story about humility and pride, the story of obeying laws of the cosmos instead of going against them. In other words traditional catholic values. And what did we get in the "Rings of Power"? We got the story about nationalism=bad ("they took our jobs!"). Go against all the laws of cosmos. And of course: women=rule. In other words the philosophy of the story and its world was thrown away, which lead to the well known result.

[@Enerdhil]

Beta males and girl bosses are the worst things that modern society has to deal with, yet they are heralded by TRoP.

[@nicbahtin4774]

Sauron asked them to clap and they did

[@Emanon...]

The first time it _actually_ was an inside job

[@cliffgulliver4626]

How many of the faithful drowned or were crushed then drowned.

[@Enerdhil]

Only Míriel.😢

[@user-ho5ul1ye7g]

Could you please please cover SCP foundation stories

[@siechamontillado]

This is day 96 that I humbly ask when will the Fraggle Rock lore video come out?

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

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[@nvmtt1403]

"The sea is always right"- survivors of Numenor.

[@Enerdhil]

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[@MM22966]

6:34 The moment Numenoreans turned into Russians.

[@ailediablo79]

They really can't kill him even if they tried. Also he is more than powerful in his own anglic might of an elite Balrog especially considering his transformations such as to a dragon and magic that is beyond the 5 wizards combined by a lot he can destroy any mortal army not from frist age all alone. That is if he fights himself. He is also hard to kill. A cut to his physical body head not going to do it.

[@bouzzard4871]

The thumbnail looks like if Sauron is displaying his enormous manlyhood.

[@growitheflow]

Atlantis

[@saratmodugu2721]

This is not atlantis

[@Rdude4444]

Can’t wait for rings of power to butcher this piece of lore too

[@Enerdhil]

Yes. The Sauron who ends up captured by Ar-Pharazon will be a transgender male...🙄

[@Lokrio9]

And people think 'Chronicles of the song of ice and fire's political games are cunning...

[@raphaelostrowski6336]

The Numenorians, the most overrated group in all of history. All these powerful descriptions but only fought in one war. Gets taken out by their own hubris

[@towarzysztatar7961]

Destroying Numenor and killing milions of people in the process seems not so wise and certainly not mercifull. Eru does a bad job at being a god

[@anonymouslyopinionated656]

Step 1. Put on very light skin.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Man, I don't want to do political commentary on fictions, but Sauron taking the reins of Numenor is eerily familiar in America.

[@scrap.catastrophe]

TL:DR ArPharazon F-ed around and found out.

[@Balt21Raven]

03:00 what a cynical, unnecessary, weird take.

[@andsmith3780]

The prime series and this series have actually made me less interested in Middleearth. What a boring ass world.