How 摔角 Shuaijiao helped my Long Fist 長拳 Cháng Quán

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@realherbalism1017 2 ай бұрын

I'm glad you're doing this. I wanted to do this 30 years ago and couldn't for a variety of reasons. You are at the cutting edge of bringing Kung fu back to it's former glory!

@the.wandering.warrior 2 ай бұрын

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@brasildiegopro 2 ай бұрын

Once the master of my Northern Shaolin Kung Fu emphasised that Shuai Jiao is necessary for us to understand Northern Shaolin. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@lionofzion4 15 күн бұрын

I've just started my Shaui Jiao journey. I appreciate the information that you're sharing with us brother. Thank you. Blessings.

@mengmao5033 2 ай бұрын

10:57 is a great example of actually having video of walking the walk. In a scenario where you have jacket grips and the vocabulary of off balancing and changing range, but where you also face striking, seeing the big windup is the cue to tuck in and nullify a big punch into a jammed forearm.

@the.wandering.warrior 2 ай бұрын

Yessir! I know what I'm talking about cause I use it! 💪

@matthewlawrence7056 2 ай бұрын

I liked this video a lot! I’d add Boxing and Catch wrestling used to be complementary even 100 years ago. Similarly you see some really nice integration between striking and wrestling in the African (and Afro-diasporic arts). It’s something I’d love to see more explored but not really sure how you get that in a modern format beyond folks like you with a passion showing it!

@bentinho 2 ай бұрын

What you're saying not only applies to Chinese martial arts. I was thinking of traditional Japanese Jiujitsu the whole time with it's emphasis on atemi to enter into throws or grappling range. Fascinating watching you (and Lavell) on this journey.

@MasterPoucksBestMan 2 ай бұрын

Everything you are saying is EXACTLY how karate was first created as well. A jack of all trades clinch fighting stand up grappling art that uses strikes to unbalance as well as to finish, not a long to medium range unattached striking art that it got changed to. Thankfully a karate renaissance has been going on over the last 20 and especially 10 years, doing for karate what you are doing for long fist. Great stuff!

@the.wandering.warrior 2 ай бұрын

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@thescholar-general5975 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I have always been more focused on grappling and you can find it a lot in the forms. Recently, I have been looking to improve my unarmed striking, I will check out your new website!

@the.wandering.warrior 2 ай бұрын

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@ericdelpiano8552 2 ай бұрын

Man I really love your videos. I can see how much research you do and all the thought you put in to understand these old forms of boxing. As a sanda fighter, I love Shuai Jiao techniques and also studying Qin na for fun as well, so these videos you’re making really resonate with me. I noticed that many traditional Chinese martial artist talk about how they rarely use direct attacks like a boxer would (example: jab directly to the body), I hear the strategy is to make contact with their opponents lead hand and use frames to create a connection to open up more attacks. I noticed that many muay Thai fighters follow this principle. They place their hands on top of their opponents glove to control. We also see boxers utilize the probe technique to control and create traffic in the empty space between them and their opponent. I would be so grateful if you would be able to make a video covering some strategies and entries that Chang Quan uses to set up their strikes. I believe that this type of hand fighting can potentially have such great use in modern combat sports like sanda. Keep up the great work man 🙏🏽 Jiayou!🥊

@mengmao5033 2 ай бұрын

when i coach my sanda students, i frequently tell them that they have to get comfortable with not only clashing arms during striking exchanges, but also working backwards from that eventuality and thinking about where to put your hands to clog up the airspace between the two fighters (particularly their punches) and when to reposition your body or guard to continually manipulate the jammed and open airspace to your advantage. With newer fighters, they tend not to think about the empty space as something they can preemptively control, but rather about when they go and trying to spot when their opponent goes. Instead, they have to see the fight less as discrete events but more a continuum of possible actions, and heading off some possibilities by putting out a hand, shifting half a step offline, or inviting/baiting other possibilities -- popping your jab out constantly until they get tired of it and try to kick under, straight into a catch then throw or counter.

@the.wandering.warrior 2 ай бұрын

@@ericdelpiano8552 the engagement meta is a bit different you're right... you make good points and I think I will make a video series about this , thanks for the question 👍

@simont.b.2660 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@JohnSmithisnotme 2 ай бұрын

i do karate and the after some mma class, the stances of karate makes much more sense to me because the lifting, tripping and grappling in the wrestling/take down context.

@mauricioChalonslazaro-g8u 2 ай бұрын

One thing i see in your training is that you hace a perfect back posture with a good waist position, posture makes firm every movement.

@mengmao5033 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, his upright spine is striking. Obviously not the only means to the end of fighting, but certainly uncommon in the modern day combat sport meta

@DarrinKemp-lr1cz 2 ай бұрын

I've been gone for a while. Glad my first vid back is you.

@the.wandering.warrior 2 ай бұрын

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@donovan665 2 ай бұрын

Really good to hear and well put with these forms being ways of messing with posture combining everything to create openings. I study an old unknown form of piquazhang which once I started understanding shuai jiao, opened whole worlds. Once again, great job.

@SuperEgo1983 2 ай бұрын

Vincent, I regret missing the seminars you and Lavell put on. I would love to hear more about them if there were anymore put on in the future.

@lmh4162 2 ай бұрын

Same here I couldn't it to the one in Jersey recently.

@the.wandering.warrior 2 ай бұрын

@@lmh4162 @superEgo1983 we should be doing another US tour in March 2025. Stay tuned for that!

@jooniebird 2 ай бұрын

I think this goes for any traditional art of what most people think of as striking. Karate then train judo/Jiu-Jitsu, Chinese striking arts then train shuai jiao, American Boxing then American wrestling

@timm285 2 ай бұрын

Shuai jiao is true Chinese martial arts. The majority of the other stuff is just forms and old drills. SJ actually brings forms to life

@MrRourk 2 ай бұрын

I was told long ago Xing Yi, Bagua, and Taiji get all the praise. It take Chin'NA, Shua Jiao, and the 18 Elbows to do the work.

@arbogast4950 2 ай бұрын

All of the internal arts have grappling/locking applications, even Xing Yi.

@MrRourk 2 ай бұрын

@arbogast4950 most every martial art has some from of clinch & grappling.

@JCServant1 2 ай бұрын

great stuff. i also came to this conclusion when I started to train 保定快腳。it really helped my 洪家拳。the movements made so much more sense. on a tangent, do you feel a weakness of 摔跤is the lack of wrestling up? i feel the concept of never touching the ground is a little too exagerated. i get that it can be detrimental but cover a little bit. i think newaza jj has the same weakness of never wrestling up. i think the US influenced it to wrestle up.