How Slow is the DRZ400sm? DRZ400sm vs YZ450sm comparo!

[@johnnypuetz]

Hit the like button for the DRZ. Show some love!

[@tezzaupnorth]

The drz did well considering the horse power difference and the drz was made as a reliable trail tractor not a race bike.

[@6226superhurricane]

sm is the detuned street version and has 23% less power than the Enduro drz.

[@tezzaupnorth]

Yep, but who leaves a bike standard these days. I have an SM and love it, I reckon it handles better with the MX style suspension with dirt rims on it and it only takes like 1/2 hours to change the wheels.

[@gjh400]

I have a DRZ SM and it's literally one of the funnest things I ever bought.

[@socalsupermoto]

Right?! I’m on number 60 or something :)

[@maxbrap]

These and TW200s are way more fun than they should be. I've had 7 DRZ400SMs about 40 TWs (owned an MSF motorcycle school) Slow bikes fast: This is The Way

[@__tacocat__]

I agree

[@EreksonJ]

Now do 2 stroke vs 4 stroke with a 2 stroke rider and a 4 stroke rider putting down laps with each bike. That would be interesting.

[@socalsupermoto]

EreksonJ great idea, on it! I have the perfect rider for it too

[@MotardChris]

socalsupermoto Gina!!

[@Georgeqaws]

I have a feeling a 4 stroke would win on a track setting.

[@lennieliriano87]

Awesome video ! Drs400sm rider here 🤙🏽 it feels good to have pro’s give good feedback on the dizzer!!

[@tpow2651]

Also it's lacking 50 extra ccs :) I'd say it stacks up pretty well! Good video

[@socalsupermoto]

tpow good point!

[@brucesmotorcycleshop3729]

Great video guys! We're going supermoto riding tomorrow here in Germany and after watching this I'm even more pumped! 😋😉

[@Tommy-iv4cd]

Just bought a new Drz400sm here in Chicago. My first new bike ❤

[@socalsupermoto]

Congrats! Fly out for a school day next winter!

[@bojangle100]

I bought a DRZ after a session at SoCal Supermoto. So much fun

[@michaelpatterson3663]

I just sold my DRZ sm a few months ago and got a Ducati 821 hypermotard....but I'm already missing that old workhorse! Once I got that bike set up and dialed in I never had to do anything except change the oil. I rode the piss out of it for 20,000 miles. I even won a Nor Cal supermoto race and podiumed in 3 AFM roadraces with it...sometimes I'd commute to work on it the morning after racing it...lol

[@HappyHandsGaming]

Michael Patterson does the hypermotard still have a sumo feel? Or is it its own thing

[@MotorHeadGreg]

Would be a cool comparison to put a slightly more modified DRZ against the YZ. I have a 434, cams, and FCR in mine and makes 45.5hp to the wheel. May get a slight bump in lap times. All in all, probably cheaper than a race bike build. Also, I run the Conti Attack SM EVO on mine, but been itching to try the q3+ since they arew a bit cheaper and my sportbike buddies love em!

[@HeyAddieImTojo]

I know this is a year late. But i am in the same tire situation. I have used Conti attack sm’s for a while. Not really ”dared” to switch to another tire if i would ve disappointed. How would you compare the contis to the q3+? IF you made the switch. Thanks.

[@coloradosupermoto8046]

I really want to do the same test with a novice racer. Great video!

[@socalsupermoto]

Supermoto Informer will do!

[@MaxysDailyMadness]

I really need to get over for a track day with you guys!

[@socalsupermoto]

We're still at it and ready when you are!

[@johnboy2251]

His white boots tricked me. I thought for a second, "this guys in sneakers? "

[@abayasugen8446]

Lol thought the same thing, I thought he just wore sneakers cos hes a boss.

[@socalsupermoto]

Oh man my ankles start hurting when I see someone riding in sneakers

[@nightwing2348]

a full comparison of the supermoto range would be wicked! cant find a video of that any where, at least a decent one like i feel you guys would do. thanks for the comparison.

[@socalsupermoto]

We have a older 6 bike shootout that is still pretty relative

[@calumkz]

I want to see the test done with a DRZ that has a big bore, cams, suspension, slipper clutch and MOTO master front brake set up next! Will be interesting too see how much closer it can come while still maintaining that lower maintenance.

[@darthorpheus]

Lower maintenance come from not doing any of that shit to the engine.

[@smeggysmeg2837]

sold my drz400sm to get more into dirt, bought a ktm 350 exc-f. miss the drz believe it or not. sure the excf is the "better" bike performance wise, but just something about the dizzer i love. call it character. next bike will be the sm again with a set of dirt wheels. always concerned about racking up miles on the excf and tired of that

[@socalsupermoto]

I hear ya!

[@WuFluChan]

Great concept for a vid👍 the only thing that keeps me away from the drzs is the weight I wouldn’t worry about the power if they weren’t so heavy

[@SephirothsLeftWing]

A drz is not heavy lol i have a dr750 that weights 200kg/450lbs and that bike is over 3 times my weight. It even outruns my buddies 300 2stroke but its exhausting to ride fast 😂

[@socalsupermoto]

They carry it well. For example a xr650r is the same weight and rides like a tank

[@perfectjohnson3510]

Do some Push-ups with your Noodle 🍜 arms and Get yourself a DRZ

[@darthorpheus]

I already lol when ppl cry about the weight of a vehicle. You’re not lifting it. Learn to use your friction zone and the weight won’t matter. You sound afraid to drop it.

[@cmbscx1084]

Awesome vid. Going to check our your website to see when the noob classes are.

[@moto67e]

Every class is a noob class and every class is a expert class. Everyone will get something out of taking a class.

[@socalsupermoto]

What scott said, come on out!

[@mmelling4410]

Great video guys. Loved it. Does the drz400 in this video have a flatslide carb or?

[@socalsupermoto]

Thanks brother!

[@ShaneZettelmier]

I think it’s like every other category of bike, people just like to complain and nitpick because they read magazines and have ridiculous expectations. Just like any other bike in any other category, the truth is 99% of the riders out there have more bike then talent. You take this guy races and put them up against 99% of the riders out there and on a DRZ he will blow them away on a full blown race bike. The DRC is a pretty good all-around bike. It’s not the greatest it’s not the fastest, but it’s more than capable and most people will be better putting that extra money into gas and practicing, because it’s far more Kibodeaux than most writers. Or you spend tons of money upgrading everything as much as I could doing all the performance mods and that’s fun but it gives you potential but unless you’re a serious racer putting in tons of hours you’re not gonna have the skills to outride a DRZ 400 SM anyway so it’s really not gonna make it much faster, if you’re drag racing and doing long straightaways then yeah the mods help but on a twisty Turny track the bike is 5% of the equation the other 95% is your skill And I’m not bagging other people I’m the same way, you put me out there on a race bike and this guy on a DRZ and he’ll run circles around me but a lot of people have this attitude like Bikes like the DRC just suck and are useless but the truth is the bike is much faster than 99% of the riders who have them anyway and the upgrades aren’t gonna give them much faster lap times

[@socalsupermoto]

Yup! that's pretty much it!

[@mountaineer1706]

I always wonder how my xr650L supermoto would match up against a drz. I also have a wr450f supermoto. The wr is wicked.

[@socalsupermoto]

Those are pretty equal

[@sciencemilitia1853]

You would love an XR650R.

[@socalsupermoto]

I’ve ridden em all, freeway bombing the brp is amazing, track not so much

[@sciencemilitia1853]

socalsupermoto I agree if we’re talking stock forks. USD fork swapped xrs are good

[@grumpysquid]

Sat on a DRZ400SM and was turned off by the heavy weight, carburetor. I’m new to bikes, 5’8, 175, 32” inseam. Those KLX250’s kinda appeal to me

[@diggy-d8w]

I'm just looking to buy a bike & the difference I see is the YZ is gonna require a lot more attention if I understood correctly? For the average dummy like me, changing oil & doing valve checks isn't my strong point. I think how road friendly & maint free it is is more attractive. If I wanted, "Fast"... I'd want the YZ. We like to compare but reliable & low maint is what most people want. Thanks for the videos, now I know you guys. peace

[@socalsupermoto]

If street just get the drz! Or a wr250x

[@diggy-d8w]

Ahh, yes.... both those are high up on my list although the DRZ's are plentiful which might be a good thing at my current stage. Thanks for taking the time, I do appreciate it. peace

[@racingwithbigt]

great comparison

[@socalsupermoto]

thanks brother!

[@burgersquid]

Q3s on the DRZ feel like your favorite pair of sneakers.

[@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_]

Ok , so I had an fcr installed on my drz 400 s and I don't think its made a huge difference . What should I be looking for ? It seems to pull harder but not crazy noticeable. Makes a nice chirping noise when pulling. My fuel consumption hasn't changed at all. Any pointers? Bike is running standard cams with big bore E header

[@catalinaracing38super51]

ThumperTalk, DRZ forum, look for the jetting spread sheet.

[@tonyd7164]

had the same experience on my DRZ-SM at sonoma kart track sumo day. was fun but would get worked by a proper 450SM. just a little down on power, little too much weight. the bike was slow and heavy too. ; )

[@filmedit8555]

Sick video! Is the drz healthy backfiring like that? mine has started to sound the same.

[@markhalden3922]

If I'm really hardnon the engine braking my pops and crackles but under normal riding it's fine. From what I've read if you have backfires just slowing down normally you have problems.

[@luisguzman3848]

Mark Halden what kind of problem we talking about mine does it :( i think it's just the jetting

[@socalsupermoto]

If it’s bad just means you gotta repack your Pipe most likely. If bad then exhaust leak

[@natesv04]

​@@luisguzman3848 exhaust leak, timing, valves needing adjustment

[@matthewjayjack8143]

I just bought a DRZsm, why didn't anybody tell me!?! j/k, I knew. Still happy, should be fun to learn the ways of the sumo(and DS with wheel swap)

[@nealpennington223]

Skinny Santa can ride!

[@camarotwofast]

You need to do a drz with bb440 and a 41mm for carb

[@socalsupermoto]

Not sure the youtube dollars will justify the cost :)

[@lloyd31alive]

Great riding

[@socalsupermoto]

That's scott. He's coming back to be a student. I have no idea what I'm gonna be able to teach him :)

[@rolandtiiroja]

that's so sad that they dont sell drz's in europe any more. some bs laws. drz is my goals bike atm :(((

[@stefanopallini814]

Drz 😁👍🇮🇹

[@PeterOlexa_]

I have 2020 KTM EXC-F 500. Want to convert it into supermoto, whats some good supermoto gearing?

[@bastihuber7477]

Depends on what u want to do with it

[@PeterOlexa_]

@@bastihuber7477 Riding in town and during the weekends on 60mph roads.

[@cal40888]

is the 450cc engine size limit on your website for races only? Would I be able to bring my 2007 525 exc here for an open practice session?

[@socalsupermoto]

The track insurance only covers up to 450cc. That said I see a lot of larger bikes there so no worries

[@etyrnal]

is this comparison being made against a "completely prep'd" race dr-z?

[@socalsupermoto]

in between. Rubber killers, q3+ tires, suspension clickers turned, so track prepped but not race prepped if that helps.

[@John-vr3po]

I have 2021S. Thinking of putting 17” front and putting street tire on 18” rear. Any thoughts? Trying to keep from buying stuff I don’t need

[@socalsupermoto]

That will work. In your situation I'd simply buy some 18/21 "90/10" tires, but it on the stock bike and go to town. Basically ride supermoto, trails, street, whatever. Basically a awesome modern day scrambler. Then if you find yourself doing sm trackdays a bunch then spring for the 17's set.

[@John-vr3po]

@@socalsupermoto thank you very much for the reply. As you’re involved in racing you seem valid. Do you recommend any certain brands?

[@socalsupermoto]

@@John-vr3po if you go 17s I'd go with toxic moto racing and dunlop q5. for 90/10 tires I havn't played with them in a while

[@patw9175]

It's only been 2 weeks and I already miss my drz :(

[@karlsbikestunts]

What purpose does dangling your foot out on every corner like an Uber eats deliveroo on a scooter serve apart from snapping your ankle Just asking

[@karlsbikestunts]

No need to reply your next vblog answered my question Cheers

[@socalsupermoto]

sorry, I'm horrible at answering comments. As long as you don't do the "leg dangle" no need to worry about snapping it. Keep it close to the bike and foot forward and all is good!

[@lumberjaxe8910]

@jonny allan Helps prevent the front wheel from drifting, resulting in more control and faster times.

[@damianbartlett4868]

So fun!

[@rtroy66]

On the yz what wheels are you using?

[@socalsupermoto]

Rusty Nuts macaronis! I mean marchesini

[@MelvinMelv10]

wich dunlop tire was on the drz ?

[@moto67e]

Dunlop Q3+

[@MelvinMelv10]

@@moto67e thanks ;).

[@iShowUnusualBehavior]

To be fair though the guy was alot more comfortable on his personal 450.

[@socalsupermoto]

yep, but pretty damn comfy on the drz too!

[@daveross1968]

What kind of tires did you say we're on the drz?

[@socalsupermoto]

Dunlop q3+ ftw!

[@shreveswat]

why didnt you guys run the dirt section?

[@moto67e]

The track had the dirt section closed.

[@catalinaracing38super51]

DRZ 35-38 RWHP, YZ +50 RWHP

[@ThePleds]

@NoNoNoNii why dont you show us on the doll where the drz touched you?

[@Mike-hk6rw]

Miss American supermoto on tv

[@socalsupermoto]

Me too, but here in socal all the pros are at the local tracks, so we get to watch it in person. I really do enjoy the s1gp euro series as well

[@wheeleking9049]

I never understood why anyone would want a tall awkward Super-moto bike over a nice low crotch rocket. Especially, if you like going over 50mph like on Fwys. But, If I *had to have one*. I would rather save a lot of time & money & just get a plated XR650r.

[@socalsupermoto]

WheelEKing I find sportbikes zero fun and uncomfortable, but to each their own. Everything you learn on a sm crosses over

[@wheeleking9049]

@@socalsupermoto Yup, everyones different. Most my videos are just offroad.

[@csplmr]

I rode sportbikes all my life , had them all. I had a ninja 600 back in 1988. I have never had so much fun on a motorcycle then my wr450 sm. Sure it is not a freeway bike, but for backroads, and in town it is fantastic. I can hop curbs, wheeile all day, and then take off down a trail or dirt road.

[@Tommy-iv4cd]

@@socalsupermoto I started riding dirt bikes now I ride a Drz400sm around Chicago and drive across country on road trips. A harley or sport bike are boring and uncomfortable to me.

[@moorepower13]

I wanna think " ive never understood" is easy to translate to "ive never ridden an SM"

[@atypical_moto]

What is the approximate power difference? 15hp?

[@socalsupermoto]

Interesting View 10ish

[@atypical_moto]

@@socalsupermoto would you attribute most of the time gains to that HP difference or is there some advantages in suspension and brakes as well?

[@toad3222]

@@atypical_moto the drz is a bit heavier too

[@atypical_moto]

@NoNoNoNii how does the 701 Husky compare? That will probably be my next bike. I ride a motorcycle full time so if it's not setup to be street legal, I don't want it. I feel like it's cheating to haul a bike to the track. If you didn't ride it to the track, it doesn't count lol. I know the 701 is heavy, so there's that.

[@thekamikaze789]

@@atypical_moto get a 650 husaberg :P Its even streetlegal. 65ish hp and ~120kg if you remove e-start + batery. But yea its still a racebike. So racebike service too. (5-7h oil etc)

[@mtang2595]

he is fast cause he took your class like 100 times already

[@moto67e]

You're not wrong.

[@mtang2595]

@@moto67e hey scott, btw where did you get ur MICHELIN POWER SUPERMOTO tires

[@moto67e]

@@mtang2595 From Alex at DRT racing. I have Metzlers on my bike in the video that I got from Alex.

[@chamodhpathum237]

Drz ❤

[@socalsupermoto]

yup!

[@hersheytate8304]

I cannot like this video because it currently has 666 likes and I'm a douche like that. Just wanted to say my guess was 10% and I feel validated by this accuracy.

[@socalsupermoto]

fair enough!

[@hersheytate8304]

@@socalsupermoto LOL - I do in fact like this video so I'm gonna let my childish tendencies take a back seat. Cheers!

[@DavidSmith-jj5pr]

wear are your masks. it's right there on the whiteboard

[@1CreativeRider]

Yeah... duh, guys... come on... we want you to be around a long time talking SM.

[@ThePleds]

Yeah we wouldn't want you to get that overblown flu with 99.94% survival rate

[@grumpysquid]

The Pleds LOL right??????

[@smeggysmeg2837]

chill out and live your own life

[@sdqsdq6274]

stock drz ,of course its slower then yz450 a off road bike with more hp

[@socalsupermoto]

that wasn't the question. We figured out exactly how much slower and the question is wether that's worth the trade for you?

[@seanhoke22]

4 seconds that's it? Shoot drz works for me!

[@socalsupermoto]

that's the point. in racing that's huge, in feel and in having fun it's no real difference

[@seanhoke22]

@@socalsupermoto fun factor is all I'm after

[@garrison2574]

drz sounds lean at idle from the pops

[@socalsupermoto]

wouldn't doubt it, many of the pipes could use some packing. These bikes get ridden hard!

[@lumberjaxe8910]

Funny enough the Drze is faster.

[@socalsupermoto]

well it's close is the point.

[@soamazzzing]

well dam find me DRZ SM for 3200 then ...Please

[@socalsupermoto]

There's some very clean ones in the 4200 range.

[@MrGrace123]

I am gonna type here the percent that the drz will be slower, let's see how close I will be. 18% slower Btw I have a drz 400s too :)

[@socalsupermoto]

only 9 percent!

[@adrianmarcinczak2104]

Your father?

[@socalsupermoto]

no but I'm gonna tease him about that. if he was I'd have faster genes

[@hypernothing-dirt-fish]

Please wear a mask inside... busted.

[@socalsupermoto]

was wondering how long that would take? full vax healthcare worker here so no worries.

[@tylersmith261]

What a stupid video. Why would you compare an enduro to a race bike? The comparable bike is a Rmz450. At least compare 2 bikes that are in the same class.

[@socalsupermoto]

To answer one of the most common question that riders have for me: how does a drz compare to a race bike! Just because you’re not interested does not make it stupid right?

[@michaelmckay]

What pressure do you run on the Q3+?

[@socalsupermoto]

Mike McKay 21ish trackday, 27ish street

[@michaelmckay]

@@socalsupermoto Thank you! I bought these because of your recommendation.