How Sonic Became Smash Bros’ Most Hated Character

[@HyperFleX77]

imagine how raged sonic haters would be if sonic's "you're too slow" taunt was still in ultimate

[@Ephraim225]

Why on Earth was that taken out? That hurts almost as bad as losing Waluigi in Mario Kart!

[@magiciansapphire9278]

@@Ephraim225 Sonic's english voice actor changed since Brawl in his home series and the changed carried over to Smash.

[@docplays6508]

HyperFleX "come on, step it up."

[@thirst7827]

If Sonic's voice from Brawl was still in smash. The situation would've been so much worse.

[@SleepingWolfGaming]

I miss taunting in online matches 😩😩😩

[@jay4gamers1]

Zero : "You can just hear sonic's spin dash in your mind, over and over." My Mind : "Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire"

[@ricosimon1057]

PK fire, More like, PK F%&#ness!. Spin dash that i was use in best time.

[@danield8632]

If you watch pro matches, you won't hear it that often. If you watch mkleo vs sonic, every 3 seconds you will hear so much sonic spin dashing, you'd think you were at the dentist.

[@jamesisaac3972]

Facts

[@SamStraker]

PK FREEZE!

[@AnomalyVoid]

Seriously, watching Ness is insufferable.

[@sothis8638]

Snake did it first! From the Brawl codec conversation: Snake: ''Something about that Hedgehog rubs me the wrong way...'' Otacon: ''But everyone loves Sonic! He's a big star'' Snake: ''There's something about him I just don't like'' This aged well xD

[@SultanSaleh-b9o]

Yea XD First bayo now sonic Wow

[@MrVectorMV]

Daaaaaamn

[@ahmadkazan7994]

Even this text is still ripped from brawl.Like all sonic's lines.

[@johnnykage4179]

That was a reference to them both being Third Party characters. I thought anyway.

[@arval4202]

"That's no good "

[@vel_terra]

The fanbase hates Sonic because he said that sexual harassment is no good.

[@bondwiththebroccoli1291]

As an eggman main I sexually harass people everyday

[@phantomblue2798]

Like about 70% of the most well known smash youtubers.

[@sonicspeed3056]

Finally, a man that understands how his world works.

[@magster3997]

Lol

[@major_fnaffan1016]

@@bondwiththebroccoli1291 no wonder sonic hates your guts egghead

[@BlooKurby]

Smash fans: *hates sonic* Sonic fanbase: "aw shit, here we go again..."

[@feefington]

It's like hating Star Fox because of Meelee

[@DemiAngel75]

I like sonic but nothing about sonic in smash is interesting. He was translated into smash about as poorly as ganon

[@mastrsonic375]

Yep

[@sypenn2502]

Can confirm

[@aIkaIi]

@@DemiAngel75 At least you have references to your character like spin dash and spring. What references does Ganondorf have in his moveset??

[@TheDylicious77]

Eggman: YES. Finally you people are starting to get it!

[@migscrunch3448]

Dylicious Ness lmao

[@cybernurgle6413]

Yo can we get eggman in smash?

[@wookeattan39]

@@cybernurgle6413 tbh, Eggman actually has some potential thanks to his Egg Mobile.

[@cybernurgle6413]

@@wookeattan39 also not only more sonic representation but also more villain representation

[@TheDuckyDino]

@@cybernurgle6413 and its not like him being in a machine is a problem, bowser junior exists

[@joey5745]

So basically everyone has turned into Dr. Robotnink, "I hate that Hedgehog!"

[@1thepieman]

SnooPING AS usual, I see

[@rpsyco]

You know, I've always wondered why Robotnik hated Sonic and his friends so much, but I think I'm starting to understand now.

[@nimi_dahav]

"Gah! How did you get here so quickly?!"

[@frenquencie]

That hedgehog is right outside my window!

[@bruhmomento.]

I HOG THAT HATE HEDGE

[@kajbo.]

The Smash Community: sonic is the most hated ssbu character Clockwork: "ILL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS"

[@capirucho5065]

B L O W S U P???????

[@unity8821]

@@capirucho5065 I'M BETTER THAN YOU I'M BETTER THAN EVERYONE

[@simonhanna3679]

Clockwork is a fucking amazing player.

[@kajbo.]

@@simonhanna3679 facts

[@dat_dylov_tho]

@@simonhanna3679 how about you start watching other "aggressive sonic players" instead of ALWAYS talking about Clockwork, dammit? Sure, he's fun as hell to watch, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS? Kevonakasonic, Diamond, Lyco, Shasta, SonicSurge Stuidos, ANGX, Sus XY, Zackori, SonicSam, heck, even me. These dedicated Sonic players N E É D more attention.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

The removal of the “you’re too slow” taunt was the actual worst, no doubt

[@globoiitsuna]

Jason Griffith sonic >>>>

[@squadsaneslader]

Arya Choudhury YES!!! HE’S FUCKING EVERYWHERE

[@edwardrobinson5470]

Yes.

[@phantomblue2798]

I agree all the way.

[@evanshaner991]

Biggest nerf he's ever received

[@impchain]

They removed his taunt because his whole character is the "YoU'rE tO SlOw" taunt.

[@BlastKetchup]

i really wish they kept in ult tho, just sounds nice to hear :)

[@shadow64dd]

@@BlastKetchup I would have like to see what roger would have sounded like as well.

[@anonymousoff-brand7538]

referring to his gameplay, or his personality?

[@theblackbasketball]

Anonymous Off-Brand Yes

[@theblackbasketball]

ً I used to piss off my friends with that

[@ammoniteg]

ZeRo: Sonic is the MOST HATED CHARACTER Yoshi Mains: *Wipes sweat off forehead*

[@firebal6129]

And Olimar mains And Palu mains And G&W mains

[@juliomelendez8184]

Thank you why don’t people ever talk about that shit. Yoshi’s are sooo annoying.

[@yayeet4228]

Me as a Ness main: *f a i r sigh*

[@Hekza0024]

Hey guys what do R.O.B players and my dad have in common?

[@Hekza0024]

Firebal612 Answer: they’re both badass and they get angry for no reason

[@phoenixpoole7667]

Sonic: “Man, they sure mean business! I didn’t do anything wrong, why are they even banning me?” Brawl Meta Knight and every single top tier character ever: “First time?”

[@RangerTroll]

Except Sonic isn't S tier and not anywhere near broken as Metaknight was.

[@crabman4069]

Bayonetta in Smash 4: Pathetic.

[@major_fnaffan1016]

if they ban sonic from smash bros I will find a way to sue them even though I may be too young

[@Ego-Fiend]

Meta Knight:ha ha i remember my first tourney

[@sonicspeed3056]

Joker: Why they also do this to me?

[@lindermontejo4546]

The person dressed up as Jigglypuff, hugging Hbox was adorable tbh.

[@Kasedezu]

I agree

[@bleachigo990]

I was disturbed that jigglypuff was pooping out the lower half of a human body.

[@Apocryph0nics]

So was "don't polise them enough"

[@papersonic9941]

Hbox needed to be careful the guy didn't fall asleep, though.

[@moogobIin]

bleachigo990 puff doesnt skip leg day.

[@doom3926]

Everyone: hates Sonic Sonic fans: What else is new?

[@passionthevirgo]

Why did i read that last line in Jason Griffith's voice?

[@zvoa1038]

yes

[@brotherbup7425]

@@passionthevirgo Yes.

[@SuperJoshuaAguilar]

~~Sonic fans~~ Furries

[@EpicGamer-69]

@@SuperJoshuaAguilar shut up furry

[@lordbaccoon1821]

gave birth to one of the greatest twitch chat chants "Yo did he just spin dash"

[@goldengold4335]

Bro did he just do a f-air?

[@alonzozavala4534]

Lol moist críticas chat😂

[@mee091000]

KiWi x Dylan *NO COPYRIGHT LAW IN THE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO STOP ME!* - _Sonic The Hedgehog_

[@Probably_CLOUD]

KiWi x Dylan “YO! CAN WE COPYSTRIKE SONIC’S LATEST VIDEO? HE JUST DID A SPIN DASH.”

[@Supershadow301]

@@Probably_CLOUD Link, Young Link and Toon Link: *_glances away awkwardly as they press the B button_*

[@shemp9858]

Yeah, I always felt excluded as a Sonic main over the years. Every time I went to locals for Smash 4 and eventually Ultimate, I'd always get greeted with a long sigh, disappointed look, or just ignorance whenever I'd pick Sonic on the screen. I never understood it. It got to me more than it normally would because I was constantly bullied for liking Sonic growing up, which affected my ability to share with people in person.

[@thatguy7576]

Everyone gangster till you fight Sonic and he hits you once and starts timing you out. (Edit) The comments on this are almost as controversial as The smash community

[@Chimera144]

Dead meme

[@joxy1514]

YO DID HE JUST SPINDASH *POG*

[@Lazo_trixk]

@@Chimera144 no one cared

[@thatguy7576]

@@Lazo_trixk agreed it just was funny

[@thatguy7576]

@Kevin Wang sure

[@skribble-]

"sonic is the most hated character in smash" bayo mains: "first time?"

[@Ruby_Eve]

What does that mean for Byleth?

[@trongtran8951]

Meta Knight mains: are you guys counting times?

[@Silver_Scepter]

Meta Knight mains: amateurs

[@franktastical7512]

@@ChaudTheGamer really? I have fought online a little and don't necessarily dislike their style

[@filipe5534]

Both are SEGA characters lol

[@Nolava0why7Because0yes]

Can we just appreciate how wholesome that giant jiggly puff and hbox hugging is.

[@lezpuff7411]

When did that happen? I'm searching it but I don't find it anywhere

[@aldali724]

No.

[@lezpuff7411]

@@jtmiller4844 thanks but I was refereing to the set where that happened, it was in Shine 2017 but I don't find the clip or in which set happened

[@Clairavoya]

yeah that was actually cute, I actually said "aww" when I saw it

[@Gio-uu5vg]

DriteC34 It was Shine 2017 Hungrybox vs Mew2King, and at the end of the video

[@HoodedEdge]

Sonic is hated by Smash fans Sonic is hated by the gaming community Sonic is hated by journalists How much more undeserved hate can one blue hedgehog take anymore?

[@7sunox]

and Sonic is hated by Sonic Fans. PD: A Sonic Fan

[@Sansic8]

Me, a sonic fan that loves sonic: *slowly raises hand*

[@pixelwhatifs371]

SOSF, save our sonic fans

[@bold3166]

By camping?

[@UmApreciadorDeDanone]

And sonic hated by dragon ball fans

[@gamerswag69]

“Sonic is Smash Ultimate’s most hated character” Hero: You’ll get used to it.

[@thunderstar7682]

Wait people hate hero Oh right *RNG is a crappy mechanic*

[@Cinko420]

Thunderstar Yeah, Green Missile and Judge are trash moves. /s

[@yosojojodela5480]

Yeah but hero is not a furry 🤷‍♂️

[@evicteetori8738]

@@yosojojodela5480 he literally rode 2 animals in his trailer. Pretty sus

[@DSmith3279]

@@Cinko420 One or two moves with RNG elements is fine. Hero is RNG the character.

[@carrot0821]

and I still hear people say “there’s no such thing as online top tiers.”

[@nimcie8377]

Akeel H. Little mac wouldn’t be bottom tier for that

[@jordandiskin6119]

Title: Why is sonic most hated character? Zero: To answer that, we need to talk about Parallel Universes

[@boipotatothatisme5110]

nice reference

[@doublereel-real]

The shellbug is the key to the universe

[@mparagames]

You can’t hate one and a half a character’s in a game, one hated character is one hated character

[@doublereel-real]

Sonic has so much de-facto speed.

[@mparagames]

@Nathan Hewitt Please stop spamming

[@tboneanimatez-fc3we]

Nobody: Eggman: it's all coming together

[@juicebox9300]

For being the fastest character in video game history, it’s ironic that playing against him can feel like an eternity

[@lidofzejar]

@@SultanSaleh-b9o You're in every comment defending Sonic lol He's not hated for being fast, he's hated for advocating an uninteractive playstyle. You either are optimally camping for time, or playing for fun. His kits just perfect for playing like a sweaty tryhard.

[@Plum1300]

@@lidofzejar I feel that you shouldn't get hate for how you play If you have a strategy go for it don't lose games for some ignorant people scoffing at you through a screen its the epitome of play lame win games and get good mixed together.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

@@lidofzejar yeah,how does he need to play?Interactively so yo abuse the end lag of his moves and win?Of course he will play uninteractivly.ait is no way a safe way.

[@omnixn7669]

@@ahmadkazan7994 thats the point Liddy is making in the first place. If you play interactively, you're "stupid" for not playing optimally to win. And if you camp, you're "stupid" for playing a boring and lame playstyle. Lose lose. Not Sonic's or the player's fault, but nintendo for giving him such a bad moveset, and for not fixing their online which caused this problem in the first place

[@lidofzejar]

@@Plum1300 You're assuming because people hate the character they hate the players. I can hate the attributes and playstyle a character advocates, while still not bearing ill will to players that understand their playstyle reliance is toxic. The only reason someone would be defensive for what I said is they're projecting, because the only thing close to an insult I used was "sweaty tryhard", which isn't even really an insult.

[@tk.dozyhollow]

So basically the problem is that against a sonic, "you're too slow"

[@ironshinobi9384]

Wish that will come back the salt will be real

[@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747]

Zoners:Hello

[@dankmemes8479]

I like you

[@christophermiller5881]

What an underrated comment

[@okey7261]

I get acceleratle with hero against sonic

[@extranosense9553]

*"How Sonic Became Smash Bros' Most Hated Character"* Me, a Sonic main who hasn't played smash in months:

[@cha0s725]

lmao i feel bad for you

[@germex1837]

Lmao in the same boat with ya

[@idfkimaclown]

I'm also in the same boat.

[@josemarcano5123]

the sonic's titanic, also i'm in the boat too.

[@migscrunch3448]

Us sonic mains really are getting backed in the corner

[@sintia12c]

I’m laughing so much right now. Their complaining about sonic being too fast. *That’s the whole point of sonic*

[@Jet_Genesis720]

People being mad at his gimmick

[@Skeloperch]

It's the whole point of the character, but that doesn't mean you gotta like it. Imagine if they added Gen 1 Dragonite to Smash, and all he did was hold you in place, dealing 2% of damage every second. That's all he did. If he grabbed you, he holds you down for minutes at a time before chucking you off the stage. It would be accurate, way too accurate, to the character's source material, but holy shit people would be *FURIOUS*. Gen 1 Dragonite players would be lynched in the street if they won a tournament, and for good reason.

[@sintia12c]

Maxatrillion so what your saying is that you’d rather have the water downed bootleg version of the characters. Stripping what actually makes them cool just so a character that obviously had no chance of defeating the other character can have a fair fight. That’s very Russian if you

[@selassieaspen9940]

67mph isn't fast for Sonic. In fact he gotten slower in ultimate I THINK.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

Parallel Fan Parallel Fan *so what your saying is that you'd rather have the water downed bootleg version of the character* If the character is not fun and makes the game not fun, then yeah, sure, maybe. Or just don't have the character in the game at all. I guess it's a great thing that Dragonite isn't a playable character in the game. *Stripping what actually makes them cool* It doesn't make them cool. That's the problem.

[@SmartBrain17]

Everyone: Sonic matches aren’t fun to watch Clockwork Videos: *sad Sonic noises*

[@Mngalahad]

literally "everyone" says that about like 20% of the characters.

[@bradyguy99]

Maybe smash isn't fun to watch...

[@solvemproblerstudios5889]

Bradyguy99 Gotta disagree with that idea.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

this can go for every character, honestly. like, I think ill take watching a Sonic over a Link going for the exact same boomerang, arrow, bomb, nair combo or a Pac-Man running to the side, loading up a projectile, then dropping a hydrant. but honestly that's a problem with Ultimate for rewarding spammy, formulaic gimmicks.

[@Orion18]

Love Clockwork lol

[@parkeranderson9977]

Moral of the story: The smash community is still as toxic as ever.

[@fork-man]

So toxic they are acidic enough to melt any solid matter

[@kishinasura1504]

Well hey, at least at they are not the Melee community. I mean, they are bit still no.

[@Silent_Mochi]

They really are toxic, makes me sad to be a smash bros fan

[@yigitkyc1903]

Why even play online if you can't keep up with all the characters am I right? I am a sonic main but this is only from a player perspective.

[@archerlangfield8189]

I cant take smash serious as a fighting game. ill play for fun tho

[@ArcLines70074]

Ight Instead of a "Sonic is Banned contest" how about I do a "Sonic Only Contest" where you can play as only Sonic and no one else

[@kayinstorm]

Y E S

[@Below_ZeroCD]

Yes

[@ElBandejas1290]

I would join :D

[@richardsonstudios2807]

nO that's dumb

[@epicskrub730]

Biggest Bren comment.

[@Shroobi]

this is heartbreaking for me to see my favourite character from my childhood get so much hate due to a playstyle to the point where he gets banned.

[@ramsonbava7627]

me 2 😰

[@Dperezo]

x3 he is my main because he is from my childhood i doesnt care if he is mid tier or low tier i would keep using it 😭 dont hate sonic its not his fault that

[@superdajoka]

Me too. That's the same for me for banjo, even though I never grew up with him.

[@Shroobi]

@@superdajoka I feel u

[@worthybloody5467]

same

[@dk9431]

I didn’t even realize that sonic was being hated

[@SultanSaleh-b9o]

Bayo:first time

[@spuhgetti]

Twitter

@@spuhgetti Although I don't use it a lot, that would surely explain it. 🤣

[@meguho7290]

me too

[@corazon5450]

Me too

[@amogusfan-mp9iw]

Sonic: Gets Hated on by Smash Community All Fire Emblem Characters: "First Time?"

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Chrommunist Party it should’ve been Bayo, Icies, or Puff. FE is hated cuz they’re in the game. Sonic’s hated for being fast

[@kribyy7784]

@@Alibaba-id1cs Puff and icies, lol wat

[@williamgrace5651]

Kirby when they could wobble and up throw rest, not now

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

William Grace ngl I was thinking brawl icies cuz their grab is more dumber than melee’s but that works too

[@kribyy7784]

@@Alibaba-id1cs More Dumber, that speaks for it self

[@kahuna2940]

I don’t know why everyone hates Sonic, it’s my favorite fast food place, it’s too bad that more People Want Wendy’s in smash, even though they’d practically be the same character Edit- 1 thanks for the likes 2- I don’t have a favorite fast food place

[@ezra6094]

Wendy IS in smash though

[@GenerationGamexp]

@@ezra6094 I'm dyin🤣🤣🤣

[@Dreg-Freg]

@@ezra6094 unfortunately.

[@ericgaming37]

Oh I get it! Sonic like the restaurant one...

[@littlemanrocks7324]

Listen we all know Wendy’s has the better moveset come on it’s so diverse

[@donkeyisalive00]

If in the next game they get Roger Craig Smith to record “You’re too slow!” And “C’mon, step it up!” For new taunts, I will be so happy.

[@Sansic8]

Won’t every non-toxic smash fan?

[@franarteaga6355]

Honestly we should be complaining about the online instead of Sonic being cancer in ultimate's garbage online #FixUltimateOnline

[@kalebmorgan4834]

Fran Arteaga I completely agree but the camping can be “cancerous” even in person

[@angusyoung119]

@@kalebmorgan4834 is cancerous*

[@kalebmorgan4834]

angusyoung119 yeah I’m pretty fucking annoying tbh

[@ethanevenson3855]

You can't patch out latency.

[@joshwesker6466]

Fran Arteaga I don’t have to to much problems with characters including sonic as a shiek main I can mix him up throw needles etc. but ness come on every one we all want this bastard out. Ness players play so frivolously it gets me aggravated.

[@chaoschannel3428]

*So essentially Sonic just being himself is both a blessing AND a curse...*

[@superultramegasonic1]

yeah..cause sonic being sonic makes his own fanbase hate him.

[@electricflamez7918]

@@superultramegasonic1 Well, Sonic hasn't been written like he should be since Sonic and the Black Knight and that was....2009. Huh, 11 years ago. The franchise has become childish compared to what it was from 1991 to 2009. We've been waiting for 11 years for Sonic to act like Sonic again, but it just hasnt happened. Truly, Sonic Team is so bad, I don't think Sonic will ever be good again. I hope I'm wrong.

[@rayzas4885]

Electric Flamez The series has always been childish. The first sonic game was about saving forest animals from an overweight eggshaped man who put them into robots.

[@electricflamez7918]

@@rayzas4885 I guess you could say its premise is childish, but at the same time, the stories and the characters weren't. There was a lot of character development that happened from Sonic Adventure to Sonic and the Black Knight. Characters matured, became stronger, and strengthened their bonds. That all went out the window with Colors. "Haha, Baldy McNosehair." That made Sonic as a character, childish. The Sonic I grew up with may have cracked a joke once or twice, but he wouldn't have kept up the babyish demeanor all throughout the game, much less the next eleven years of games. Forces "mature" storyline is a bunch of edgy mistranslations. Shadow the Hedgehog had a better story while being edgy, and it kept the character development from the previous games. (Okay, it may have regressed slightly from Heroes, but I can forgive that because it doesn't make sense that someone would say "screw the past" after getting amnesia and only finding more mystery.)

[@superultramegasonic1]

@@electricflamez7918 it's so childish cause the fanbase is so childish.

[@One21P]

Smash community: we hate you Sonic. Sonic: okayyyy Eggman

[@selassieaspen9940]

I'm just imagining Meta Knight talking to Sonic from a silhouette. "Come Sonic! Join me where you can be finally appreciated!"

[@zacnmac]

Sonic: Sorry, Tiny Circle Knight, But I won’t stop now!

[@plowo3021]

I feel like everyone being oblivious or saying this came out of nowhere really arent involved in the competetive scene in smash

[@THEGREATMAX]

Yeah, I don't think they're actually gamers either. Sonic in Smash doesn't work the way he does in Sonic games. In SONIC GAMES, sonic starts off running slow and builds up momentum to get to full speed and when he tries to stop, he slides a bit first. IN SMASH FUCK IT. LET HIM STOP ON A DIME AND GO FROM 0-60 These are the kinds of little things that should have been fixed on day 1. For competitive AND common sense reasons

[@mokosensein]

True, he was already the most hated character in terms of playstyle but it was not really an issue because he is not that strong offline so he doesn't get into top brackets. But as offline makes sonic a lot stronger, he became a big problem. I don't know if just letting him be is the solution because you absolutely can't control the hate the players will receive and this issue could be worse.

[@HarmlessDK]

@@THEGREATMAX Why would he build up momentum in this, no other character does that at all

[@sezarsurge9037]

PlOwOmbey ha. Or because in online he is ten times worst

[@erimasuvonxiella7091]

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[@lastgengamers1137]

The REAL problem with Sonic now is Nintendo took away his "You're too slow" taunt.

[@memememe7081]

And "C'mon, step it up"

[@lastgengamers1137]

@@memememe7081 I thought come on Step It Up was in Ultimate? Maybe I'm just imagining it

[@memememe7081]

@@lastgengamers1137 It's just "Come on" now.

[@lastgengamers1137]

@@memememe7081 man, my mind always just filled in the blanks...... ugh he's a cocky character let him be cocky.

[@ChillestForm]

He came from disrespect to fine I’ll be nice

[@dawnevergarden3275]

Hearing a Rushdown/Zoner hybrid character get tons of hate. "That's no good" -Sonic

[@wolfgangill9717]

Let’s agree that everyone hated the ice climbers when they had that broken ass grab.

[@saz197]

Alternative title: “I ran out of prodigies”

[@sypenn2502]

The children escaped

[@godlywalrus2694]

@@sypenn2502 I thought I locked the basement damn it

[@Baconator4579]

Lmao

[@naveenkarthikeyan4744]

NOOOOO, business ain’t blooming anymore

[@RileyB_226]

@@godlywalrus2694 they went out through a window

[@yoru3260]

I just want his OG “You’re too slow!” back

[@kylegraham3192]

Honestly 😒

[@EzioAuditore338]

It was so obnoxious that it was a good reason to main him in Brawl "Sonic Speed!" just doesn't have the same weight to it :(

[@cjlite0210]

No it makes him more toxic Either fix Sonic or remove him from the game

[@CursedMoistMan690]

Nintendo removed that taunt becuase it was to toxic

[@calebartboy7620]

Mabey they can change the taunt to him saying something like “catch me if you can!” Or “aw, couldn’t keep up?” Sure it’s probably not as good as “your too slow” but they sound a lot better then “sonic speed”

[@dogefishron2860]

Sonic being the most hated character: Young Link and Ness: Are you challenging me?

[@tajhill989]

Sonic- "sit your asses down children"

[@raghavpatel720]

Nickeljorn 12 I agree because his advantage of being the fastest character in the game only approaches whenever he is comfortable

[@rileymoore7025]

Mr. G&W: *beep*

[@xue1379]

Young link can be super cool

[@Phoeniixx]

Raghav Patel ok but the advantage only works on slow characters

[@tccutthroat5961]

I find it funny people think he’s broken, even tho he’s so light he can be launched at like 30 percent

[@ang1480]

if one is dumb enough, that can accidentally launch off screen. K.O.

[@Jet_Genesis720]

And as a Sonic/Joker main he’s weak to range characters

[@Skeloperch]

I play mostly slower characters, and I have to wait for Sonic's autism to kill him because I can't do it. I just stand center stage and wait for his brain to malfunction and run into a DORIYAH, because I have 0 other ways of combating the freak.

[@tccutthroat5961]

Maxatrillion I use ganondorf and sonic so I know how to defeat both of them

[@selassieaspen9940]

You can't hit what you can't react too.

[@marlinmurrell620]

Sonic: I’m waiting Simon: I don’t need to approach *presses 🅱️ button*

[@masterlonk8950]

Marlin Murrell Ness:So do I presses up 🅱️ button:

[@BloopTheNoop]

The links as well

[@kliveran]

Laughs in 🅱️

[@masterlonk8950]

the litle adversary 🆘

[@justsomeboiwithoutabeard1968]

Sonic: oh ho, you're approaching me? Simon/Richter: NO NO NO NO, NO!

[@ezra6094]

Now that ZeRo has made videos about all the smash prodigies, he should find the OLDEST smash players alive and do videos with them.

[@Mightykeef]

This was a very well articulated video. Nice job man

[@brassattacks632]

I know you

[@kibbywitz]

Sup mighty keef

[@DavetheWade]

Sup

[@earthphoenix7068]

Sonic mains are seen as the villain. Smash 4 Zero: “The hardest choices require the strongest wills.”

[@nicksouly9795]

how to get alcohol poisoning: take a shot every time he says “character”

[@roostangarar]

Or "Pretty Much"

[@atomiq911]

hey the guy came from the slums of Chile, he does very well with his english :)

[@juba6173]

Sonic : "The problem with being faster than light, is that, you can only live...in darkness..."

[@DRK-hz5ck]

Sonic: is “the most hated character” Quickplay Ness: allow me to introduce myself

[@erwinurrutia6424]

i love ness haha

[@drachma1651]

I mean good ness in tournies are amazing to watch. Best Ness is great

[@Jellyman4]

*PK FIRE*

[@naldect9141]

@@Jellyman4 PK Fire is more tolerable than trying to predict if this fucker using sonic is gonna let go of the B button while I'm shielding, possibly breaking my shield. Its unhealthy.

[@nicklasupachak2706]

Nota Robot sonic play style is to punish player mistakes so if you want to punish sonic you have to bait him sonic holding his spin dash is him baiting you to use you shield so he can break it and pull off a combo

[@soulless9081]

I'm a Sonic Main (aside from Mii's), and it bothers me when I see people be so passive and cowardly.

[@hadrielreis1283]

WELCOME TO THE SQUAD

[@finmin2k]

that's how sonic is meant to be played tho

[@Running9750]

@@finmin2k kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZLVc56BpsSajsk You were saying?

[@finmin2k]

@@Running9750 not saying he can't be played any other way, just saying it's way more effective if he's played campy.

[@mando76m]

But Sonic is literally a bait-and-punish character.

[@kaichiku6335]

It sucks that a character that is so fun to play with an agressive playstyle is used in a really passive, campy way

[@kaichiku6335]

@@wizrad2281 me too !

[@Venom-rr1vg]

I try to play agressivley but alot of people spam so should i spam back?

[@SuperAaron360]

Kaichiku If Sonic is played too aggressively, people will just outhit him. It sucks but that’s how he was designed.

[@kaichiku6335]

@@Venom-rr1vg Give them a taste of their own medicine !

[@kaichiku6335]

@@SuperAaron360 I guess that is true, I don't really play the game seriously in any way so viability doesn't really matter to me. Challenge is always fun !

[@byennbye]

Tbh I feel like sonic had a lot of moveset ideas but they went with the conmon ones lol

[@moussacamara0614]

Yes I want the developers to get rid of either his side or down b and replace it with a maybe more iconic or new move in the next smash or when he comes back as dlc

[@Dreg-Freg]

I definitely think they should have given him some modern representation in terms of moveset. Give him the boost (side B) or the stomp (down B). Why does he have 2 spindashes still?

[@trashboat5388]

Donovan The Frog the stomp is his down air

[@byennbye]

@@MegaMaster1021 bruh Ikr

[@byennbye]

There are also other things like the wisps from sonic color or even the werehog cuz why not hahaha

[@What.I.said.was.]

Sonic is my favorite video game character, but is badly represented in Smash. I wish they just redo Sonics move set completely and give him more variety of moves that complement each other. Even his stages are a misrepresentation of him. I feel like if Sonic was a newcomer, he would be a way better designed character!

[@infinlte]

Yeah, he could maybe have a moveset from Sonic Battle...

[@PersTG]

@@infinlte That'd be my dream come true, considering it's one of my favorite Sonic games.

[@Sheriff-Woody]

these nintendo players hating on my childhood

[@horseflyer27272]

Nintendo fanboys

[@major_fnaffan1016]

AND THEY HATING ON MY DADS CHILDHOOD ME AND MY DAD ARE SONIC FANS >:C

[@horseflyer27272]

@@major_fnaffan1016 k

[@major_fnaffan1016]

@@horseflyer27272 ok *inhales* honestly who gives a FUCK about that nintendo shit?

[@horseflyer27272]

@@major_fnaffan1016 nintendo fanboys

[@vonhatred3826]

Zero: I’m going to take a deep dive into why Sonic is the most hated character. Sonic: *SONIC SPEEEEED* *Video ends*

[@juneru2]

the way sonic is played in smash translates directly to "YoU'rE tOo SlOoOoW!"

[@SultanSaleh-b9o]

:)

[@jovannydiazabad6123]

@@SultanSaleh-b9o Ragequit left and right

[@nikolasdeleeuw4146]

QuickThePorcupine I to the highest degree disagree with you, items randomize matches that attempt to make the playing field truly up to the characters. Though fair enough my perspective isn’t the only one. I think that items make the game infinitely less fun unless you’re in a big group.

[@HustlingCentral]

The sonic profile pic makes it worse

[@raykings5244]

@QuickThePorcupine You do realize items are turned off to make the match about the players skill and not luck. Items allow worse players to beat better players because they got lucky.

[@jamonelavivanco5994]

I have a friend that mains Sonic that mains him since the start of 4 and I loved playing the matchup, he never camped to a point that we both just stood still. He was and still is an aggressive Sonic main and that made it weird to me when people would complain seeing him simply select Sonic.

[@mee091000]

Jamonela Vivanco Lol that friend is literally me except I've been playing Sonic since Brawl. It feels like the whole community has completely turned on you. You are playing as one of the greatest heroes in gaming and everyone hates you.

[@Hikaru_SR-Omega]

As a casual Smash player I was a super aggressive Sonic main back when Brawl came out. (Well, actually *before* Brawl came out since I played Smash Bros. X, the Japanese version.) And after watching a lot of Clockwork's videos in the past year, seeing campy Sonics in other videos always confused me. Lol

[@yaboichronos2103]

As someone who also played Sonic since Brawl it doesnt make sense to me seeing him turned into this campy character. Its the least enjoyable way to play the character. Also as someone who has always been a Sonic fan it kinda hurts knowing the one place where your favorite character wasnt being verbally crapped on no longer exist...

[@Ando1428]

@@mee091000 same. I was also a sonic brawl main. I tried aggressive and always got pwned i never gave up on him. Though in 4 he could kill pretty easy at 40. Sonic is pretty fun and always had been. I always thought that being campy was wrong. Im the fastest character in game. I should get to play aggressive.

[@ZeroSmoke.]

Sonic main here. I usually alternate between aggressive or campy depending on my opponent

[@loopcat1234]

The smash community has a hated character every year LOL.

[@jenniferowens4551]

SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUP

[@constantinekorkousky3363]

It’s min min right now lmao

[@googlymoogly3009]

@@jenniferowens4551 No

[@rinn5238]

and now it's steve

[@QuasarManiac]

I’ve mained Sonic since Brawl, and I’ve dealt with the hate all my Smashing life... I just think he’s cool :(

[@nahte724]

Agreed. I main Sonic because I'm a sonic fan first, and a casual smash player second.

[@cloudythoughts9864]

Me: plays sonic as my main Some random bitch: ugh a sonic main Me: switches to shulk.

[@Mondaysreallysuck]

Sonic is cool 👍🏻

[@guccigunner75gucci91]

@@cloudythoughts9864 😂😂😂

[@eastbeast1379]

Same here. I've mained Sonic since Brawl myself.

[@1MoreSonicRobot]

As someone who plays Sonic this is really disheartening.

[@Yarida929]

As someone who plays Hero this is really uplifting

[@jakeslamakowski6990]

Don't listen to salty people, pretty lane this dude is willing to dedicate probably a few hours of his life to make a video complaining about this.

[@Emberdrake212]

@@jakeslamakowski6990 he did not complain about Sonic. He made an analysis about how Sonic is causing controversy from a non-biased standpoint.

[@pcvrisepic]

Jake Slamakowski he didn’t complain like could you at least watch the video

[@yusoftyo9718]

Hope you ain’t a spammer

[@kendallmccoy541]

His move set had so much potential...

[@EmiViolet]

Did it really? I mean come on he's pretty much exactly how I'd imagine

[@kendallmccoy541]

Martin Kosix I mean, yeah, he kinda did. Sure, he spins a lot, but a lot of stuff could be drawn from his games with more variety.

[@sushii8984]

@@EmiViolet Project M, Rivals of Aether mods or even SSF2 have far better and more creative movesets. It sucks that 2 games have passed since Brawl and only one move has been graphically changed whilst the rest have barely shifted fundamentally, in project M sonic does poses after doing a homing attack, it's disgusting how little personality he has in this game, it's soulless.

[@mattd791]

Martin Kosix there's a lot of people who don't play cancerously with Sonic and it sucks for the people who play normally and are now targeted with with bans for what other players are doing with the character. It's pretty toxic tbh

[@greenD7244]

Martin Kosix Yeah, it did. In Smash, all he does is punches, kicks, spindashes, a homing attack, and a spring. They could have pulled out stuff like the Light Speed Dash, somersault, any of his moves from Battle, the list goes on.

[@gamegirl7183]

Why do I always like the things that people hate? ‘I’m a weirdo....’

[@JudahIsTheWarrior8099]

Hey everybody's weird, your talking to a 24 year old who still plays Roblox for one piece games.

[@primarinegaming6761]

JudahTheWarrior lol that’s ok. I’ll probably be playing roblox when I’m older

[@DurpyON]

You’re not alone

[@NameName-yj7lp]

Hey it’s ok I’m a child who still can’t talk to people without having an emotional breakdown

[@Maxithicc]

@@NameName-yj7lp Breakdown Breakdown

[@PACSAX]

As a sonic main, I can safely say that I’ll never get sick of that spinning sound

[@zacnmac]

Word!

[@thomasgagne3002]

Me too men. Me too.

[@BuddyBoy-ne1nw]

I wake up in cold sweats with that sound grinding through my head like a fuckin chainsaw.

[@themightyman4230]

well said bro its music to my ears

[@danm4863]

I hate you all

[@KamranJB1]

The reason sonic is hated is because he doesn't have the you're too slow taunt Edit: Sonic was cut from Melee, imagine how fast he would have been

[@augustobs24]

If sonic would have been remotely good, he would have killed melee lol. Melee players are babies who always want to see a rushdown/combo playstyle, even though they play a game with characters that rely on playing super lame to win (ICs and Puff). You add one more lame character that is viable and I don't think the community would have been as hype to keep the game alive for so long.

[@BoanergesTWELF12]

The way you're talking about sonic, this sounds like something sonic would do canonically anyways

[@tigerfestivals5137]

Yeah exactly lol

[@d3hybrid713]

Yes but he uses moves besides spin dash though nintendo can at least change that like give him light speed dash like in ssf2

[@ellowell8160]

i could totally see the other smash characters canonically hating sonic and talkin shit behind his back

[@reenans2860]

@@d3hybrid713 l see what you mean so don't take what I am going to say too seriously. But 90 percent of bosses in sonic games are beaten via spin dash and homing attack

[@ojutay8375]

@@reenans2860 but he has other attacks. Whirlwinds, Axe Kicks, Light Attack, Sonic Wind. There were options

[@ZeroPC1]

Aw man, this hurts as a Sonic fan. I've been playing Sonic in smash ever since he came out on Brawl and I NEVER got clarification on this issue. Every time I ever played Sonic, I never played campy like that. It just feels so cowardly and not fun when people just avoid you the near entire match. Even if you lose, its more fun to at least try and fight back as a Sonic player and be aggressive. Damn, I feel bad now since 85% of my playtime in Smash is as Sonic :(

[@benramirez7678]

Everyone: hates sonic That one kid sammy: YOU FRICKIN FRICKS WHEN WILL YOU LEARN

[@Daniel328DT]

THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEquENCES!

[@ZK-ff2ru]

@@Daniel328DT *voice crack*

[@Stupaipai]

He's an adult now.

[@Stupaipai]

@QuickThePorcupine He's autistic? I never knew that.

[@intensellylit4100]

@@Stupaipai surprised?

[@selahgray3388]

"Play lame, win games!" - Alpharad

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

>How to win the best World of Light battle

[@estebansoto7700]

He said it, and it´s true

[@badbillmadman4843]

Also Omni

[@nimcie8377]

Selah Gray haha you quoted the funny internet man! Now I will laugh

[@AlfinirFGC]

Actually, these events made me play Sonic more. I just love running everywhere and edgeguard really deep with him, and if everyone hates him, at least i'll give him some love

[@superpokebros]

Me to, thats how i play and i secure a lot of wins

[@doctorbustdown5981]

Just anger them so much they can’t see straight and then you get free wins. Lmao

[@johnathanmurray8295]

Sonic is just shit. All they do is run around the map attacking every so often like a bunch of pussies. It takes no skill to play the hit and run style.

[@superpokebros]

I dont play like that and plus, cant you do that with any character

[@Maxithicc]

@@superpokebros Not really, Sonic is just too fast for anybody to catch him in the game, Just like ZeRo explained in the video

[@bondwiththebroccoli1291]

It’s sad to see sonic’s old taunt be removed. It should be added back to piss off people even more

[@hupyaboia4574]

Ah, the smash community is being toxic, what’s new?

[@ExplodingTrujillo]

HUPYABOIA yup

[@raziell]

@Maintenance Renegade Why are you here?

[@kissesuwu5282]

@Maintenance Renegade Jesus dude, who shat in your cereal?

[@WhoamI-wc7pj]

Yeah...

[@chickenheart3612]

TFW you're the 69th like.

[@sizzledan31]

From 9:26 to 9:45, Zer0 hits the nail on the head. People see Sonic on screen and automatically assume he's camping, regardless of how the Sonic player is actually playing. For example, everyone remembers Sonix timing out Tweek when they both had 2 stocks, but nobody remembers the sick combos coming out from Sonix earlier in the set and in grands against Leo.

[@SultanSaleh-b9o]

Ikr I have watched it and I was amazed and also zero and the rest was happy they saw sonic played like by a pro and in this vid he just idk defend him and the sonic players but in a different way

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Daniel Cimino this is why I sometimes I hate the community. They judge Sonic WAY too quickly and either assume he’s broken or he’s annoying no matter what he does. Before Frostbite, Sonic was “underrated” and was weak to a lot of top players. Now everyone immediately thinks that Sonic is broken and very annoying. If everyone took every character seriously and learn the mu, there wouldn’t be as much hate as we have rn. At this rate Sonic will probably be more hated than Smash 4 Bayo despite Smash 4 Sonic is just as if not more annoying than Ultimate Sonic.

[@anon-ud9mq]

@@Alibaba-id1cs the competitive community judges everything. they'd rather judge and sum up a character in it's entirety all because of a certain playstyle, whether it be Timing-Out or spamming moves

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

anon yeah but don’t u think that they judged too quickly? It’s only 1 top 8 placing in the US and yet everyone believes that Sonic is broken. Same goes for whoever watches the match whether it’d be the commentator or the chat. There’s more but the gist is already there

[@Clel]

I see, this sonic situation has really gotten out of hand. He's always been a timeout character though, so it's just lag making things worse. I want to see a sonic ditto lol

[@_sleepco]

A sonic ditto?? Who has that kinda time? Like I got work in the morning man 😄

[@InkyGhoul]

@@_sleepco I have Sonic dittos all the time since I main him and challenge other Sonic mains. Most of them average 3 minutes with UNLIMITED TIME ON 3 STOCKS.

[@_sleepco]

3 minutes isn't too badd, i was mostly just being sarcastic anyways haha. I feel like given their light weight and shared speed a sonic ditto might actually go a bit faster than a sonic vs _______ matchup. Especially because both sonics know the movesets and will respond much more quickly to eachother than they would in a non ditto match

[@jessetucker3997]

@@InkyGhoul Well you can't exactly play for timeouts with no timer.

[@TKOTDtvMusic]

It's hilarious that KZbin recommends this to me now lmao

[@supermike929]

For realll

[@Caaarl_]

Rip

[@shihoblade]

He still aint back yet?

[@enrikoda]

he cutting himself off for life I think

[@fastpikachu0742]

For real

[@FelihKitten]

I absolutely love how level-headed you look at everything ZeRo

[@estabravo]

Felih Kitten your avatar matches your comment lol

[@FelihKitten]

@@estabravo LOL noooo, its not like that! I really do think that, but thats a funny observation.

[@espio_espio]

As a Sonic main I can say this video did well covering both sided of the argument. I remember using Sonic’s DownB once the opponent just flat out quitting the match. I personally never timed anyone out and always believe an aggressive Sonic is the best Sonic.

[@johnmarousis318]

As a sonic main myself I approve of this message👍👍

[@theluigifan42]

If it works online, may as well abuse it. Not agreeing with the whole campy playstyle, but if you can't beat em on Nintendo's shitty netcode, may as well join em.

[@mono4366]

It’s a minority thing I mained game and watch but is now a secondary and I thought the hate was a meme cause I play how I would like to be play against so aggressive and cool but when I found a ditto I realized that people were right

[@asimpleanimator8241]

As a Sonic main I will attest since I always like 6wx’s style of aggressive play with Sonic- with that being said I ALWAYS play cautiously aggressive- The camping strategy is only against characters where the strategy is in order.

[@a2lan123]

As a former Sonic main, I agree! Sonic is meant to be played aggressively, a little bit like Fox, but more instinctive and less technical (and without the specials). Leaving the action and camping goes totally against his mantra of going fast. Heck, it's even punished in many of his games. As for the "former", this kind of "hatred" is probably the biggest reason why I quit being a Sonic main. EDIT : On the other hand, seeing him escape from Meta Knight or all stuff like that in Brawl is indeed reminiscent of Sonic's game design, for "Don't get hit" reasons.

[@SFants]

I love how every Sega character in smash has been hated in one way or another

[@errolbrice5397]

Cause their fucking annoying in every smash game

[@andrewgodfrey3369]

King_0f_Toxic 📠

[@starfox7758]

All 2 of them ...

[@SSL_2004]

@@starfox7758 3* Sonic, Bayonetta, Joker

[@canudont9602]

@@starfox7758 3 cause Joker is basically a Sega rep since SEGA parented Atlus.

[@Chronos774]

Sonic: They see me rolling they hating!🎶

[@jameshutter8114]

"They feel bullied" Me: slightly raises hand and says "Yeah thats no good"

[@ellie8272]

I think it's good that campy players are being bullied tbh

[@darkvoid5525]

Lilly The thing is that Sonic is the only campy one being bullied and there are a lot of campy characters in ultimate

[@bengamingthehedgehog442]

I just want this Sonic drama to stop because Sonic is my favorite character.

[@osha_t4]

@@darkvoid5525 people just hate camping, it's not fun to watch, nor is it fun to play against.

[@ellie8272]

@@darkvoid5525 far from true. Lots of campy characters get crap

[@TheWordPlay]

Seems like Smash keeps rotating through characters to hate

[@SleepingWolfGaming]

Lol just look at the fanbase 🤣😂

[@angelomendoza6666]

I’m a palu main I’m used to the hate lmao 😂

[@precise9318]

WordPlay I’m a falcon main so I’m used to just love

[@N12015]

@@angelomendoza6666 I'm also starting to accept the hate as a Game & Watch main. It's weird because this character was mid-tier at best, but a busted Up-B OoS, N-air and B-air are a busted Up-B OoS, N-air and B-air (The back air is your busted move, Up-B OoS mine and N-air OUR).

[@Soup-man]

Imagine telling this to someone who freaked out when he was announced for Brawl.

[@destroyer1107]

*raises hand* Right here! I hate this!

[@Zorrito509]

@@destroyer1107 wait for me! Me too!

[@justalpha9138]

To be quite truthful, that really is one of the best strategies that I've learned over the years: the faster you tilt your opponent in a high level setting, the faster you can win.

[@gavindyan3786]

Byleth: I am the most hated smash character Arms Character: Say sike right now Sonic: Hold my chili dog

[@bocho9213]

As a Ness main im just Happy we are free

[@StarVerix]

Little mac?

[@doosin8696]

@@StarVerix Little Mac isn't that hated, just mocked.

[@grape_nation]

Do people really hate the Arms character?

[@bocho9213]

@@grape_nation i dont

[@chickenheart3612]

So a character plays in a different way and people hate it. Yep, sounds like the smash fanbase alright.

[@seveneyes77]

Chicken heart is delicious.

[@Theeinsom]

Lol why you gotta be this stupid?

[@emeraldfir9]

Stall is dumb in every game especially fighting games 🙄

[@Skeloperch]

@@emeraldfir9 As a competitive Pokemon player (lol), I can tell you that stall is even more hated in other communities. If you roll up to Smogon OU with a team of Quagsire, Clefable, Chansey, Corviknight, Toxapex, and (insert hyper offense 'mon here), people will straight up take the L and quit before you even start. I ran a semi-stall team with 3 of those Pokemon and people have said "see ya bitch" and quit. And I don't blame them one bit. I didn't realize that in my bid to beat stall cancer, I had become the monster I intended to fight.

[@rikielanasui742]

Pretty sure they begged them to add those characters

[@dashyyy]

Me a Sonic-Fan: 'Finally Sonic´s reputation gets better after the movie' Me: *sees this video* Also me: *confused screaming*

[@its_heeho]

Hate it when that happens

[@axlh.1827]

Smash ultimate is from 2018, the movie is 2 years later so technically it’s alright

[@runningwithscissors8612]

How ZeRo became Smash Bros. most hated figure

[@supermike929]

This got recommended lmao

[@kaptnhoohah2903]

@@supermike929 I just got it recommended this out of no where as well lmao

[@supermike929]

Kaptn Hoohah 😂 I love the name and it makes me miss zero even more

[@maximoleon3110]

Well this didn't aged well

[@frenquencie]

I wonder

[@CFSChickenfriedsteak]

Took the time to count the amount of spindashes Mkleo vs Sonix Game 1: 71 Game 2: 34-42 Game 3 : 37 Game 4 : 75

[@Lagoa_real]

Dear Lord

[@kezare569]

I've seen that comment in the actual match video. Lol.

[@NegativeNanase]

Probably still less than the amount of projectiles snake mains spam

[@NicolasSaavedra27]

Now count the amount of grenades Snake use, or the amount of rollers Inkling use.

[@natego9817]

Two of Sonic’s special moves are spindashes. It only makes sense that they would be used a lot. I don’t get why people don’t realize this.

[@colinmeier8140]

I feel like this sonic drama came out of nowhere

[@_tomihox]

Me too

[@GenerationGamexp]

Right

[@madmoxxi7397]

It didn't Its been going on for a WHILE You're probably just not very involves in the community

[@brambleblaster]

I mean, hey, gotta go fast...

[@NeutralL12]

So did all the time outs

[@megapepega1356]

Sonic in Smash Ultimate really gives "The best defense is a good offense" an entirely new meaning

[@HyperFleX77]

You know, I’m glad sonic has this relevance in hate; that means he’s too good for everyone and they know it

[@ThiagosToons]

Thats no good. Actually more like That's too good

[@HyperFleX77]

@Xavier Azhar just like every character? It also depends on how someone uses it

[@jgxlol5728]

Cause"he is the fastest thing alive

[@HyperFleX77]

@Wyatt Cork hell yeah, real sonic mains don't stall

[@iiokrammii693]

@@HyperFleX77 agreed, lol. There is absolutely no reason you should be stalling with sonic. He's good enough where you can take out the rest of the opponent's stock if you're good enough at him

[@Tyranizilla94]

Sonic: *Breathes* Everyone: *Anger Intensifies*

[@adriangomez6486]

LMAOO 💀💀

[@MrNachtara]

Imagine if Sonic still had his " You're too slow" taunt from Brawl, people would *smash* their controllers when they lose to him Edit: Wow, already so many likes?! Thank you!

[@jeremydykstra8263]

They totally would

[@Godschildcj21]

Im sad its gone tbh lmao

[@okey7261]

Doesnt he still have that taunt¿¿

[@sicko5821]

True shit lmao

[@Godschildcj21]

I also miss when he said "cmon step it up"

[@adamjunn1893]

ZeRo *starts to play sonic* everyone: "sonic isnt so bad"

[@jaymyster7262]

TUME 1 I main sonic and I definitely don’t camp you can fight me too see if you want

[@mee091000]

Jaymyster 726 Same here. I dont camp, lose most matches against good players, and people still hate me. It's like at this point you may as well start camping

[@kekodemoner6915]

TUME 1 what if i said anybody who mains your main is dog shit at the game?? Would you like it?? Bastards like you ruin the smash community

[@deanmoriarty6015]

if they’re camping then you’re either being a twat and spamming projectiles or you picked a massive shit stage like temple- those are genuinely the only times i’ve ever seen a sonic camp in ultimate

[@ahmadkazan7994]

Funnily people hate him for being sonic,if they were playing against a "real" sonic he would taunt every 5 secconds.

[@prestonwalker9081]

As a sonic fan I feel like the sonic games people call us crazy toxic and in Smash Bros we’re bullied down to the point no one wants to let us into tournaments