How Stonewall Became Famous | Op-Docs

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The New York Times

The New York Times

Күн бұрын

Ever since the 1969 riots on the streets outside New York City’s Stonewall Inn, L.G.B.T.Q. communities have gathered there to express their joy, their anger, their pain and their power.
Few places are so tightly identified with the birth of a movement as the Stonewall Inn and the streets that surround it, in the downtown Manhattan neighborhood of Greenwich Village. This month marks 50 years since the Stonewall riot, which galvanized a half-century of activism and agitation for L.G.B.T. rights and made Stonewall a recurring stage for public protest, grieving and celebration.
Cheryl Furjanic’s new Op-Doc, “Stonewall: The Making of a Monument” traces that history, exploring the process by which a chaotic street fight in protest of police brutality has been engraved into history in the form of a national monument. Furjanic’s film, built from a chorus of voices and archival footage, is also a case study in how mainstream acceptance can, ironically, be a mixed blessing for political movements, as people struggle to control their own history.
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@luxusken05
@luxusken05 5 жыл бұрын
I just can't stop my tears watching this. Thank you to everyone who fought before us
@alexv0009
@alexv0009 4 жыл бұрын
that name tho
@ultimatesunrise
@ultimatesunrise Жыл бұрын
God stated his opinion with AIDS.. same thing happened in exodus.. well same premise
@kitterzy
@kitterzy 5 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for these people, I would have been afraid for what is in store for my transgender son. The path ahead is still being forged, but my hope is that my son has a place in this world without discrimination and hate. I won’t stop fighting for peace, acceptance, and a happy life for him until I no longer can draw breath.
@asianjedi9984
@asianjedi9984 5 жыл бұрын
Kitterz Thank you for being so open and open-minded about your son. Not all parents are like you. Thank you! (Hugs)
@zlatko8051
@zlatko8051 5 жыл бұрын
I want to say,as a pansexual,good luck to you and your Son.
@frenchanthony2226
@frenchanthony2226 5 жыл бұрын
You are a remarkable person and your son is very lucky to have you!
@kitterzy
@kitterzy 5 жыл бұрын
French Anthony Actually, I’m lucky to have *him* because he and his sister are amazing and talented ppl. Even though sometimes I want to strangle them, they are really great kids.
@michelcomenta
@michelcomenta 5 жыл бұрын
Your son is already lucky to have a parent like you 💖
@ShannaRiley
@ShannaRiley 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this and thank you for all who fought and continue to fight.
@marcuthorne
@marcuthorne 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very powerful doc and I hope it never gets taken down and that more people watch it. Thank you for making this.
@charlieadams9260
@charlieadams9260 5 жыл бұрын
Never forget our history. Great piece, thanks to those involved in putting this together.
@gominuke
@gominuke 5 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful and powerful op-doc. thank you for representing our history.
@river7369
@river7369 5 жыл бұрын
Without knowing me you’all fought for my rights a long time ago, thank you from the bottom of my heart!!
@animeargonaut3127
@animeargonaut3127 3 жыл бұрын
Literally bawling in the middle of the night. What these people didn't know at the time is that their fight inspired LGBTQ all over the world. From a person who has lived in a country all the way on the other side of the planet, thank you.
@celieboo
@celieboo 4 жыл бұрын
I am standing in the gym, bawling. Adoption is one of the greatest gifts a parent can give their child. I could care less when someone tells me "we're pregnant!" But when I hear someone adopted a baby, I am like "I want to hear EVERY detail of your adoption story and making your family whole!" I couldn't care for you, so I gave you an opportunity to go to a family that could.
@katherinelong5411
@katherinelong5411 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this !!! The young generation need to know about Stonewall. I am so proud I've seen Sylvia Rivera, Marsha P. Johnson and Barack Obama.
@goodgirlkay
@goodgirlkay 5 жыл бұрын
Wtf did Obama do to make you so proud?
@enzedbrit
@enzedbrit 5 жыл бұрын
Why just Rivera and Johnson? Many, many men and women did their part
@ziejackson6236
@ziejackson6236 4 жыл бұрын
@kid flash channel I assume you are a child because that comment was very juvenile
@kotaniyumiko
@kotaniyumiko 4 жыл бұрын
@@goodgirlkay He's the first president to openly be an ally. The man who was in the most powerful position in the world supported those who are hounded for something they cant change.
@nekoii22
@nekoii22 4 жыл бұрын
I will never understand how someone can have a problem with someones sexual orientation?? I was brought up in a catholic house, Im married with a son, And when that topic comes up saying it’s “wrong” wrong how why are people so worried about someone elses sexual preference why do people think they can dictate who someone chooses to love? All love is accepted
@cookdacat8684
@cookdacat8684 3 жыл бұрын
Being a bisexual girl, the people who fought and continue to fight have changed the lives of so many. Thank you for making this about our history and thank you to all those who stood up to people who said they were wrong for loving who they loved.
@everretchancellor2243
@everretchancellor2243 Жыл бұрын
After watching this. It gave me a new appreciation for the fight , because who knew that we actually did fight and it was in words but also in actions. Thank you for all you've done to help move us forward.
@bengkulujambi2012
@bengkulujambi2012 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you all who fought for us.
@kurtstriegler8909
@kurtstriegler8909 3 жыл бұрын
This is more relevant than ever! Thanks for putting this inspiring clip out there. And lets stay vigilant, united and strong.
@caducoppini
@caducoppini 5 жыл бұрын
Powerful! Brought me to tears!
@benberkowitzmusic
@benberkowitzmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Im crying at 2 am
@sweetlo17
@sweetlo17 5 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. Thank you!
@DontStopReadin
@DontStopReadin 5 жыл бұрын
This was beautiful and so informative.
@misteranthropy7082
@misteranthropy7082 4 жыл бұрын
@kid flash channel are you replying to every comment? Jesus, pick up a hobby
@michelcomenta
@michelcomenta 5 жыл бұрын
A beautiful story. Thank you Marsha, Silvia and everyone who paved our path with fight. We wouldn't be able to get here without you. 💘🏳️‍🌈
@SPRDAVE
@SPRDAVE Жыл бұрын
mental illness
@arijeanz
@arijeanz 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even an american lgbt person but something hit me hard when they played that recording of marsha at around the 3:30 mark. something about being able to listen to the voice of a legend hits diff
@nidhavellir
@nidhavellir 5 жыл бұрын
Very moving, thank you NYT.
@gladysquesada5048
@gladysquesada5048 5 жыл бұрын
Every city has a spot like this. A dark park, a bar...and there´s where culture grows, you know...
@Kalopazia
@Kalopazia 5 жыл бұрын
whats significant about stonewall is that these are some of the very first moments in history where the lgbt community fought back against their oppression
@ziejackson6236
@ziejackson6236 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kalopazia no it isn't there where lgbt rights movements long before stonewall
@JeanSantana000
@JeanSantana000 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully well done, but why nothing has been said about Marsha Johnson?
@milofarah8773
@milofarah8773 4 жыл бұрын
Marsha, while she was a persistent fighter, denied credit for the first brick. First shot glass, first stone, whichever story you hear.
@harlow9175
@harlow9175 5 жыл бұрын
Just beautiful ! Thank you .
@asmita3994
@asmita3994 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this doc.Happy pride everyone❤
@rahimshakur7358
@rahimshakur7358 Жыл бұрын
They (Marsha and Sylvia) were on the front lines fighting the police in defense of us, and we didn't accept them. We were afraid they would complicate our call for justice/equality because the straight community was opposed to who they were.....this is our history and we should learn from it. Bless Marsha and Sylvia 🙏 RIP
@susanp3608
@susanp3608 2 жыл бұрын
We don't need a parade - we need to march. In the name of LOVE we are not the one's commiting acts of violence....
@rohansaxena4751
@rohansaxena4751 5 жыл бұрын
It's because of those brave men and women who fought for us then that we can proudly call ourselves part of the LGBT community today🏳️‍🌈
@galolito
@galolito 2 жыл бұрын
In 1969 there were 3 TV networks none of which reported on Stonewall. The country depended on those networks and their local city newspaper and maybe the state newspaper of record. If any of those newspapers carried a story about Stonewall, it would have been a filler or 'news of the weird'. I only found out about it because I was in college and found the story in the Village Voice at the college library. I don't think that most of the country really found out about it until the student groups at colleges started having Stonewall anniversary events.
@AlexRiversMusic
@AlexRiversMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Wow 💯
@girliboi
@girliboi 5 жыл бұрын
always love me some sylvia rivera.. wish somebody would do a proper full length doc of her life.
@girliboi
@girliboi 5 жыл бұрын
gtfo nobody is requiring you to watch
@JulioSSierraCamarena
@JulioSSierraCamarena 5 жыл бұрын
This is so inspiring.
@christined5885
@christined5885 5 жыл бұрын
Well done documentary!
@TheLynnsepeda
@TheLynnsepeda 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. ❤️
@Amahla
@Amahla 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@ryanlovejoy810
@ryanlovejoy810 5 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing ❤️
@spencerbergquist781
@spencerbergquist781 Жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary
@natyspaghettighetti6726
@natyspaghettighetti6726 4 жыл бұрын
chills
@mrbutch308
@mrbutch308 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. A fine documentary on the story of the Stonewall and the beginnings of the LGBTQ+ Rights Movement.
@johern
@johern 5 жыл бұрын
Very moving video
@SoundBlackRecordings
@SoundBlackRecordings 5 жыл бұрын
Made me tear up.
@The_General_Zubas
@The_General_Zubas 5 жыл бұрын
12:00 Both theze lady's get it.. They GET IT! The LGBTQs have to stick together!
@sinthorana2814
@sinthorana2814 5 жыл бұрын
Stars, i miss Obama...
@Lovelyalaajiah
@Lovelyalaajiah 4 жыл бұрын
Me too🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
@harryb3456
@harryb3456 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lovelyalaajiah I kind of want to support the lgbt community now. 😐
@lazlomattachine8334
@lazlomattachine8334 4 жыл бұрын
Respect your elders.
@mislovelover31
@mislovelover31 3 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't Stormé DeLarverie mentioned?
@bigernkingpin
@bigernkingpin 2 жыл бұрын
Cos factual history is not fashionable in todays politicsl climate
@4uanC
@4uanC 5 жыл бұрын
What's up with the Shaemus picture? 🤔
@thedarkalpha3487
@thedarkalpha3487 5 жыл бұрын
Juan Cabrera underrated comment
@nuksvlog1084
@nuksvlog1084 3 жыл бұрын
such a nice movie
@roder51
@roder51 Жыл бұрын
Politicians telling us what's right and wrong. That's a joke in itself.
@subversivelysurreal3645
@subversivelysurreal3645 5 жыл бұрын
One more little big point: Anita Hill, beauty-pageant winner and known merely as a spokeswoman for Oranges via Advertisements, became a Spokeswoman who declared: “Homosexuals should NOT be allowed to teach our children! “ Yet, because women were fired upon committing the ‘Act of Marriage’...who HAD taught America’s children, in the 1920’s, 1930’s and 1940’s and 1950’s...?! This was a profound coming together of these #ChristianFundamentalists...#Fascism, right now.
@kilianfitzgerald5899
@kilianfitzgerald5899 5 жыл бұрын
Subversively Surreal Hi, you meant Anita Bryant. Everything else is dead on:
@mamumaumau3320
@mamumaumau3320 5 жыл бұрын
It was Anita Bryant....not Anita Hill.....typical liberal who does not know jack but has an opinion on just about everything.....you loud mouthed twit!!!!!
@economieliberale5189
@economieliberale5189 Жыл бұрын
Happy Pride!!!! Let's continue to fight against segregation and hatred.
@manputty4u
@manputty4u 5 жыл бұрын
The movement did not happen in a vacuum. It has to be seen in the context of the anti-war movement.
@alexwarner6111
@alexwarner6111 4 жыл бұрын
It prob did make them braver in the sense of protest and marches, but the movement still would have happened anyway
@victoriat9145
@victoriat9145 4 жыл бұрын
this video fails to address why this building was raided though :/
@kevindaniolp9390
@kevindaniolp9390 Жыл бұрын
🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈❤❤
@changgun_film5003
@changgun_film5003 5 жыл бұрын
Love u man
@carolinacoreas7716
@carolinacoreas7716 4 жыл бұрын
@Andreyah P go troll somewhere else kid.
@mercymathitu6208
@mercymathitu6208 4 жыл бұрын
So 2020 Kenya is 1960s US for LGBT+ rights? This is so sad. Am an ally who hopes that it will get better.
@dimonklewort6291
@dimonklewort6291 5 жыл бұрын
Rear-wheel drive is a big problem not only in new York city .
@keicbell
@keicbell 5 жыл бұрын
That's a reductionist, cheap shot
@dimonklewort6291
@dimonklewort6291 5 жыл бұрын
​@@keicbell You don't know where they were aiming.
@dimonklewort6291
@dimonklewort6291 5 жыл бұрын
​IT ENDED THE HOLIDAY!!!!!
@dimonklewort6291
@dimonklewort6291 5 жыл бұрын
@Siomarah Piquion👏👫 I from Russia with love.
@christoburger
@christoburger 3 ай бұрын
Thats hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ultimatesunrise
@ultimatesunrise Жыл бұрын
Find repentance people.. god loves you ❤️
@finnadrian
@finnadrian 5 жыл бұрын
So that thumbnail of this white dude...
@jacquelinejacksonfabre9290
@jacquelinejacksonfabre9290 2 жыл бұрын
PERSECUTED FOR BEING THEMSELVES AND MINDING THEIR OWN AFFAIRS.
@avayu2289
@avayu2289 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up well with bio parents yet with growing pains like everyone....In my life I have met some really accomplished as well as regular people who were adopted, so I think people should just be grateful that they met up with parents who wanted them and were in the position to care for them. I have also met people who grew up with abusive biological parents. Melodramas are just a waste of time. Always move on and pay it forward. Reliving difficult circumstances is futile. The past is done, the future unknown...all we have is the moment of now...🤓
@ziejackson6236
@ziejackson6236 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what that has to do with stonewall
@verenas3536
@verenas3536 4 жыл бұрын
@@ziejackson6236 I guess its autoplays fault , there is another docu about adoption in Korea. As I saw it as well, it comes before this.
@verenas3536
@verenas3536 4 жыл бұрын
hey Ava, wrong video. But to your comment- You are not adopted, you do not understand. And I did not see anyone in the video talking bad about their adoption parents. It just is a great loss and a traumatic experience. No matter how well you will have it with you adopting parents. And as a Korean and not white in a white family and community must also be an alienating experience or at least has the potential to do so. Being adopted myself - I think it is important to be able to talk about your experiences. I appreciated the docu vey much.
@ziejackson6236
@ziejackson6236 4 жыл бұрын
@@verenas3536 oh that makes sense thanks for clearing that up
@EgotistiCal
@EgotistiCal 5 жыл бұрын
You keep poking a puppy and eventually it'll learn how to bite
@EgotistiCal
@EgotistiCal 5 жыл бұрын
@Siomarah Piquion you like the idea of eating man meat?
@carolinacoreas7716
@carolinacoreas7716 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fyrdman I bet mommy let the wittle twoll play with the KZbin app.
@KirsyReeds-yj3qj
@KirsyReeds-yj3qj Жыл бұрын
Free Tibet
@capersmith
@capersmith 3 жыл бұрын
It use to be about personal acceptance and being left to live your life, now it’s about compliance, making churches comply, making cake shops comply, forcing people to participate.
@TheKazadoodle
@TheKazadoodle Жыл бұрын
Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. It's called 'acceptance'.
@capersmith
@capersmith Жыл бұрын
@@TheKazadoodle Demanding a cake is forcing.
@TheKazadoodle
@TheKazadoodle Жыл бұрын
@@capersmith So, a mother demanding a blue cake for her boy is also forcing?
@economieliberale5189
@economieliberale5189 Жыл бұрын
Happy Pride!!!! Let's continue to fight against segregation and hatred.
@blista2
@blista2 5 жыл бұрын
fight for freedom and justice is not hard in the USA compared to other countries
@marcuthorne
@marcuthorne 5 жыл бұрын
It is as hard as the majoritarian side makes it. Ranges from society to society. Granted the HK activists against Chinese oppression have it the hardest right now, but to fight against oppression is hard.
@Metube9569
@Metube9569 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I still cry at this :')🥲💖
@rockyallison6809
@rockyallison6809 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I’m cis but my brother and mother were LGBTQ+. I’m 70 so I remember all of this plus all my family went through.
@seanaaron7888
@seanaaron7888 5 жыл бұрын
Generally I dislike MSM but this is a good doc. This is great. Why can't you grab average people on every issue?
@lo-ero
@lo-ero 5 жыл бұрын
Generally you’re a bad person.
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 4 жыл бұрын
Andreyah P which god?
@fastdollar1
@fastdollar1 5 жыл бұрын
Reading the title, I thought this was about General "Stonewall" Jackson from the Civil War.
@magicalgold010
@magicalgold010 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr America has lost their senses and has turned disgusting
@orion7873
@orion7873 5 жыл бұрын
No one at the NYT knows who General Stonewall Jackson was ...
@jimd8292
@jimd8292 3 жыл бұрын
@@orion7873 who cares about losers
@jimd8292
@jimd8292 3 жыл бұрын
@@magicalgold010 only your bigotry is disgusting
@ifka8123
@ifka8123 5 жыл бұрын
Never knew abt it be4
@michaelnitsch4431
@michaelnitsch4431 Жыл бұрын
but god has th last say
@Marcpapi
@Marcpapi 5 жыл бұрын
4 comments?
@SPRDAVE
@SPRDAVE 2 жыл бұрын
completly discusting am,en
@starfox5352
@starfox5352 Жыл бұрын
L boz
@economieliberale5189
@economieliberale5189 Жыл бұрын
Happy Pride!!!! Let's continue to fight against segregation and hatred.
@starfox5352
@starfox5352 Жыл бұрын
@@economieliberale5189 w
@SPRDAVE
@SPRDAVE Жыл бұрын
@@economieliberale5189 god hates it.......... fight god ok . have fun ....
@anthonyenos2835
@anthonyenos2835 2 жыл бұрын
Sin is fun for a short time.Eternity is at stake.Only Jesus can offer salvation,He loves all he can forgive all sin .While we're alive have a chance to make into God's kingdom.Jesus died for sinners .............The only Hallowed Ground is where Jesus was crucified their he won the battle.Against Satan ..........Their is a spiritual battle that can only won by the blood of Jesus ...............................
@TheKazadoodle
@TheKazadoodle Жыл бұрын
Fun fact - not everyone believes in your religion.
@NajimiLyokoWorlds
@NajimiLyokoWorlds 5 жыл бұрын
Not to be a little rude but how would they make babies now? Since LBGTQ is still a thing?
@kilianfitzgerald5899
@kilianfitzgerald5899 5 жыл бұрын
Samantha Shimmer239587 Not rude but pretty dumb.
@lucianavieira2576
@lucianavieira2576 5 жыл бұрын
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 5 жыл бұрын
Samantha Shimmer239587 Where is there a requirement that one must make babies? For those who do choose to have families, there is adoption, in vitro fertilization, or surrogacy.
@goodgirlkay
@goodgirlkay 5 жыл бұрын
It's called UVI and surrogacy. Only the trans in LGBTQ often become barren because of hormone therapy and surgery. The LGBQ can all reproduce.
@milofarah8773
@milofarah8773 4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is required to have children. Many straight people are incapable of that. But to answer your question, some people adopt, artificially inseminate or have a surrogate.
@FO2SH0Xy
@FO2SH0Xy 4 жыл бұрын
this world do deserve an apocalypse really
@arfazhxss
@arfazhxss 4 жыл бұрын
why?
@magicalgold010
@magicalgold010 5 жыл бұрын
Remember what's written in the bible and Qur'an regarding the criminals of homosexuality and their punishments
@kilianfitzgerald5899
@kilianfitzgerald5899 5 жыл бұрын
No one cares about your bigoted book.
@deliadlcx1598
@deliadlcx1598 5 жыл бұрын
How about stfu?
@certifyundeadrose1679
@certifyundeadrose1679 5 жыл бұрын
You need learn to not take things to heart, as it is nothing more than paranoid old men
@gabrielfranco8747
@gabrielfranco8747 5 жыл бұрын
Dude why would you be spreading hate when your book is actually about love?
@kitterzy
@kitterzy 5 жыл бұрын
You do know those are just books written by men, right?
@magicalgold010
@magicalgold010 5 жыл бұрын
Humanity has left this earth
@neddelley8766
@neddelley8766 5 жыл бұрын
Your ticket is ready.
@magicalgold010
@magicalgold010 5 жыл бұрын
@@neddelley8766 nice reply
@starfox5352
@starfox5352 Жыл бұрын
You can leave to♡
@jhawk870
@jhawk870 5 жыл бұрын
Who tf is Stonewall?
@certifyundeadrose1679
@certifyundeadrose1679 5 жыл бұрын
Rebel General in the America Civil War
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 4 жыл бұрын
Certify Undeadrose confederate general*** they are known for losing the war that they started over slavery.
@82566
@82566 2 жыл бұрын
Stonewall Jackson ?
@eskinderalemayehu5602
@eskinderalemayehu5602 5 жыл бұрын
Let us not judge these people leave it to God to decide their fate
@evyhorror
@evyhorror 4 жыл бұрын
God doesn't exist.
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 4 жыл бұрын
If you really thought that you wouldn’t have made that comment.
@kenny995
@kenny995 2 жыл бұрын
If God is truly all loving as people claim, then he would welcome them into heaven with open arms. Otherwise, he is not all loving.
@elnahs7390
@elnahs7390 5 жыл бұрын
lol disgusting
@willmartin3067
@willmartin3067 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@alexwarner6111
@alexwarner6111 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you are indeed
@82566
@82566 2 жыл бұрын
Yet here u r ???? 🤔😶‍🌫️
@jakkdlaw
@jakkdlaw Жыл бұрын
They are so lost, they actually think they are doing something good😂
@joeker1962
@joeker1962 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you president Trump!!! TRUMP 2020!!!
@eskinderalemayehu5602
@eskinderalemayehu5602 5 жыл бұрын
I pray Gods wrath is not like in sodom and Gomorrah where sulphuric rained on those cities.
@nidhavellir
@nidhavellir 5 жыл бұрын
They did a great job on this documentary. Very inspiring.
@kitterzy
@kitterzy 5 жыл бұрын
Sulphuric? Is that similar to acid rain? If so, we’ve had that for years now. Don’t think anyone has started melting yet.
@uberglamazon
@uberglamazon 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the white invisible sky man?
@eskinderalemayehu5602
@eskinderalemayehu5602 5 жыл бұрын
Kitterz this was like sulphuric fire burning and destroying everything I don’t think we have had that happen again after that but With Gods wrath u never know
@lazlomattachine8334
@lazlomattachine8334 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that sounds like a real bummer.
@michelnormandin8068
@michelnormandin8068 5 жыл бұрын
Today's NYT libigoq propaganda moment.
@tristanstefanovic
@tristanstefanovic 5 жыл бұрын
Michel Normandin it’s an OP-DOC, or OPINION documentary. This allows people to speak their voices, and is not meant to represent the NYT. Also, this is mostly a historical thing and not an opinion piece.
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 4 жыл бұрын
How is this propaganda? Do you know what propaganda is? I think you need to learn about propaganda before you use that word.
@SPRDAVE
@SPRDAVE Жыл бұрын
when all the evil get together they wont win either as this wont in the end .
@SPRDAVE
@SPRDAVE Жыл бұрын
my opinion is male/female period . offspring populate .
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