How Strong is Android 21?

Android 21 is a personal favorite character. How strong is she, and how does she stack up against Dragon Ball canon?
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00:00 Introduction
00:13 Android 21
01:31 The Story of Android 21
04:08 Who is Android 21?
12:09 How Strong is Android 21?
13:43 21's True Power
14:02 Android 21 vs Fused Zamasu
15:44 Android 21 vs Hit
17:00 Android 21 vs Golden Frieza
17:55 Android 21 vs Jiren (ToP)
19:41 Android 21 vs Moro
20:51 Conclusion
#DragonBall #Android21

[@TaeSunWoo]

She’s so based. Android, Human, Majin, Saiyan hybrid..so OP

[@Crimling88]

how is being a hyperversal being thats also a 8 year old e-girl BASED?

[@Animefan4290]

If she trained like goku.........my god she would be ridiculously powerful.

[@Megaman-2407]

just like any "character" these day

[@mawandesosibo9662]

@@Megaman-2407 not really

[@Megaman-2407]

@@mawandesosibo9662 oh and what your counter point being? Gohan: From SSJB level he skyrocket into TUI Goku level Piccolo: From around SSJG level(fightly atleast closely to Gohan) he skyrocket into around UI goku level. Goten and Trunk: Because they are ignore we never get to see how powerful they would have become but let not forget that at a veey goung age they unlock super saiyan by just random training and until Gohan ultimate form Gotenk SSJ3 was the strongest character. Frieza:Text book broken character right here from Namek Saga level he jump straight to SSJB level just in a few month and once he train in the time chamber for another 10 years he basically the strongest character in DB that is not a God. 17 and probally 18 bit she never train: By doing "Ranger" stuff he went from Below Cell level to SSJB level. And this is just the MAIN cast.

[@DrunkPanda239]

@@Megaman-2407 true no one besides vegeta tries to train as much as possible. If they trained harder they could. You can even argue for the earthlings too if they desperately try to get every ounce of power increase, weather it’s kaioken or android/body modifications, grand elder Kai potential unlock.

[@alfonsovidal1759]

Berrus woud literaly be paralized in fear if she evan trained fora single year

[@Allday524]

I don't think she could copy Ultra Instinct. Rendering herself devoid of thought and emotion just isn't something I can see her doing. Now a Majin with Kaioken would be an absurd combo. Her durability would allow her to almost completely negate the side effecrts.

[@bragnir]

Agreed. 21 has a LOT of trouble with her emotions. If anything, Evil 21 is a perfect candidate for Ultra Ego.

[@cheveuxnoir7765]

Ultra Ego 21 😂

[@myriad8275]

@@bragnir broken combo. Taking damage increases her power, and her buu dna regenerates all damage. Infinite power glitch

[@bragnir]

@@myriad8275 Which is what Goku Black used

[@Warlord-dc5un]

Not to mention we've seen characters do similar things... Goku was able to use the kamehameha from just seeing roshi do it... Cell and Buu use instant transmission after seeing it... Some techniques are much easier to learn on the fly compared to others... Ultra instinct is more than a simple technique but an entire state of mind and body...

[@bragnir]

One detail about 21 that ramps her power level even faster is... Much like we saw with Cell when he reached his Super Perfect state, or with Goku Black, Zenkai is a hell of a cheat ability when coupled with regeneration. 21's regen is far more efficient than Cell's , though not quite as good as being flat out immortal- making her one of the few characters in the series to have three different routes to pretty much infinite power scaling.

[@abovearth6740]

3 ? Buu-like absorbtion, zenkais and ? Training I guess ?

[@bragnir]

@@abovearth6740 Yup. The exact form of scaling used by Goku, Vegeta and Frieza these days.

[@shilohoward6085]

I'm honestly happy she's becoming canon. I love her character design!

[@Graf_Zeppelin_]

The human one or the female boo one?😅😅😅or both i don't judge

[@SuperBlueGamer9000]

​@@Graf_Zeppelin_ her human one

[@kagetsuki23]

She is also is the game dragon ball kakarot, she work for Bulma but don't work for her too long she disappear at some point.

[@Craig.Donaldson]

​@kagetsuki23 and she is a cameo in the new super hero movie

[@coolbeans3752]

​@@Graf_Zeppelin_ Both

[@jk844100]

Technically Vomi isn’t A21. Vomi is the person that A21 is modelled after.

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

Adroids are people turned into robots. Android 21 is Vomi with a chimera/robotic body. They're the same person

[@ChudLogic]

Hands down the best breakdown of this character I have ever seen.

[@Ray21X]

I’d like to argue about Android 21’s story taking place between Universe 6 and Future Trunks. I think it takes place between Future Trunks and the stories before the ToP because there are clones of Trunks and if the clones were created from the same bee sized robots that made Cell, then it should have created Trunks clones when he was in Goku’s timeline.

[@PlanetLevelDB]

They could have taken Trunks DNA during the original Android Arcs. There dont seem to be any references to it being after the Future Trunks Saga and Goku Black was in the original game but was never one of the clones despite having come to Earth in that same timeline w/ the time ring. Though it's not 100% where it fits in, this is just my best guess.

[@Mr_Gamer-Random]

The thing is that Trunks is the one from DBZ

[@Calibert]

Jesus, this actually looks great. Nice job

[@NomercyMohau14]

Hopefully they make android 21 fully canon cause all we have now is a character who's just called vomi with no back story

[@TheWOLVRINE616]

Let’s find out in future 😀

[@ark7806]

Considering that she's popular among the fanbase to the point thst Toriyama included her in Xenoverse 2, Kakarot, and cameo in the new movie, I can see him giving her a major role in Super

[@user-tv3sk5cs4w]

I mean... We KNOW her backstory.... She is the wife of gero, she had a family with gero, then she was killed by Goku and then gero went insane and remade her and there son as androids with the power to slay gods.... Also imagine if she ever got one of the gangs ultra form... I mean ego isn't Saiyan exclusive and neither is beast... And the implications of 21 gaining either of these forms would mean she would literally solo any fighter with just raw power alone.... I mean we only see her in a "base form" and beast is far stronger then potential unleashed which was far stronger then ssj2 and more then likely even stronger than ssj3... Which means beast has to be a multiplayer close to the THOUSANDS... And considering her base form is already stronger than even blue Goku (who was pretty much even with potential unleashed Gohan) I would argue she would be the strongest character we KNOW OF... But if she got ego.... Then she would be even greater then that....

[@xaviermize4509]

For some reason it seems that the dragon ball universe has forgotten that the spirit bomb is NOT supposed to affect good natured beings

[@matheuswesley7138]

The impact and explosion still does.

[@xaviermize4509]

@@matheuswesley7138" In Other World, Goku is taught this move from King Kai.[14] Essentially, to use the Spirit Bomb, one must have a pure heart so they can manipulate and gather energy, otherwise the move can backfire and possibly hurt or kill the user. Likewise, once a Spirit Bomb has been fired, it is possible for one with a pure heart to deflect the technique, as Goku clarifies to Gohan and Krillin." This is a direct quote from early dbz. So unless I'm mistaken then that means someone of pure heart literally can't be hurt by the spirit bomb unless it hits the planet and destroys that first.

[@matheuswesley7138]

@@xaviermize4509 Deflect is not the same as immune.

[@xaviermize4509]

@@matheuswesley7138 k, then shouldn't the rest of the z fighters have gotten hurt from the close proximity of and explosion that killed two people of equal or greater strength, at least a little cause they weren't that far away

[@matheuswesley7138]

@@xaviermize4509 They where far away, and the explosion is concetrated, and Goku have taken damage from expirit bomb, so not a big deal, you get hit, pure of heart or not you get damage. it's just worse with non pure hearted characters.

[@AfroJeffrey]

She is canon now.

[@ProtonCannon]

The thing is the "Mimicry" ability to copy another technique is incredibly inconsistent and has some unwritten/unexplained limits. It has been used by many characters throughout the series going back even to classic Dragon Ball. Like kid Goku was able to repeat Roshi's Kamehameha right after seeing it for the first time although it was a way weaker version of it. Tien was also able to also copy the Kamehameha after seeing it at the World Martial arts tournament semi finals he even said it himself out loud that the could copy any technique after witnessing it once, although he was likely bluffing. Frieza was able to reproduce Krillin's Destructo Disk after seeing it (in GT Goku even says that Frieza stole it from Krillin). These are just a few examples, this isn't something that is unique to the Majin type beings like Boo or Android21, it has been done by many far earlier. However a lot of these are single occurrences and are not used later. Of course it is different from absorbing or eating someone. We simply do not know if Android 21 would be able to copy Ultra instinct or Time skip as those are extremely rare and might need qualities and conditions that simply cannot be copied without more insight. We also do not know if Android 21 would be able to turn others into candy in the Tournament, since Vegito was actually able to fight against Super Boo even after being turned to candy to the point that Boo actually turned him back. Vegito was even able to resist Boo's absorption with a barrier. So it is not unreasonable to assume that the countless other powerful fighters from other universes already have resistances or even counters to this ability. Unrelated to this but using Spirit Fission is also a big question, we do not know how would spirit fission affect A21. Due to her unstable personality and because her body contains cells from all kinds of different races and beings she already suffered a fission on her own. Maybe the Spirit Fission technique could be her weakness that destabilizes her body even further.

[@BO55_BEN]

the thing is with the turning people into food is that if she trained it she would be able to keep them from moving so she can eat them

[@rustecohle591]

The best and least annoying one on KZbin thanks for this 👍🏻

[@PlanetLevelDB]

Thank you :')

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

Imagine if Gero found one of the og73 models. It's not even a crazy idea since the purpose was to go around the cosmos gathering data. Gero could have easily infused his android technology into the model and worked on adding them into future androids. Also, Gero's only flaws with making androids are their personalities, ending in their downfall or his downfall.

[@KeVee7]

I love 21 shes one of my fav female character iknew she was strong…but hearing how shell fare against the strongest of warriors with accurate scaling is amazing great video dude🔥✊🏾

[@MatthewJamesKalasky]

Powerful, intelligent and beautiful.

[@BBbreeze]

I wish I found your channel sooner, absolutely love your content. From the presentation, editing, and you’ve made me reconsider some of the characters and concepts presented (namely the Jiren and Ultra Ego videos respectively). Love your work!

[@misterabcnew2888]

The only problem with scaling videogane only characters is well... Technically... Questionable... Cause technically... You could say she's as strong as Blue Goku and Vegeta not only cause can you play as them in the game you can unlock them in the story mode. Doesn't help she has 3 timelines and has 2 different personalities as 2 different actual people in the Android Saga timeline. Also she also has two forms both being completely different races and the suppression fields... There's so, so, SO, many things showing it almost impossible to power scale truly. But hey at least we could technically bring back Good 21 at least so maybe one day we'll have her cannon

[@MA-ed4vx]

Good video. In my opinion, the arc of A21 is located between the Zamasu saga and the Tournament of Power, because we see Gohan Mystic and this, if I remember correctly, he obtains again when training before the power tournament. Regarding Level A21, I do agree that it should be higher than an SSJ Blue, since it is assumed that almost at the end of the story Goku mentions that he has already recovered all his power and Vegeta mentions that they need new powers to defeat her, even so when they fight with her they cannot win and they have to use the Spirit Bomb. It is also true that the waves decreased the power of A21 as mentioned, and even so she was superior to the z warriors, if we extrapolate that and remove the waves, I understand that A21 would still be superior In conclusion, I think that A21 would be between the level of Jiren and Fused Zamasu, since the saga is located at that time.

[@AnkitKumar-js9rx]

11:46 Well that's a plot hole, because if 'good' 21 is good then she wouldn't have been harmed by genki dama.

[@MelonMedley179]

This needs upvotes. 👏

[@M0nsterm0uth]

It's not about being 'good', it's about being absolutely pure of heart, which she is not. Much like how SSJ goku is not pure of heart, but is still good

[@bacd-nn2lg]

Android 21 is definitly stronger then Mira's Final Form, but she will definitly lose to Fu. Ps. The more time passes by the more I realize what kind of monster Fu is when it comes to power levels, and he could be the strongest villain in Dragon Ball franchise.

[@VestedUTuber]

Fu is a monster in terms of power but I don't think he necessarily beats 21 unless he can figure out the whole trick to beating Majins AND executes it properly. 21 can just keep coming back otherwise. Fu probably would figure out how to do it relatively quickly but it's still a matter of landing the attack.

[@jasonwhite7910]

​@@VestedUTuber Fu in XenoVerse or dragon ball heroes but dragon ball heroes Fu would erase her no diff

[@VestedUTuber]

@@jasonwhite7910 I'm not saying he wouldn't. All I'm saying is that he'd have to figure out how to do it first. We haven't actually seen Fu fight a Majin yet so we don't necessarily know if he knows that he needs to obliterate every single atom of 21.

[@randomgamerkid20]

14:57 here in one of the guide books it stated that vegito can keep his power no matter what form he is in

[@nikospatouxeas4877]

It's actually quite belivable. When I tried to rank her this is where I put her too, stronger than full power fused Zamasu but weaker than Vegito blue. I definitly want to see her becoming canon!

[@piss7672]

How do you only have a lil over 100 subs, I’ve been watching ur vids and they are great. Keep working at it bro

[@PlanetLevelDB]

ty :) Definitely more to come!

[@4kyt203]

Ur page is so awesome can’t wait to say I’m here when you reach 1M

[@Victoria69420]

Android 21 is fast powerful and smart And looks sexy all at the same time

[@android21evil19]

I loved this video, Android 21 Evil and Good are my favorite characters of all time and they are ridiculously powerful and smart. They earn their spot as one of the strongest fighters and the strongest female.

[@StrongzGamez]

great Content Subbed!

[@justhumanthings6711]

From what I've analyzed while playing through the super warrior arc, she's about the same level as Janemba.

[@PlanetLevelDB]

All 3 arcs place her a little differently. I didnt use the first 2 arcs because they are a bit unclear with the scaling for example in the Super Warrior Arc they dont really clarify if the Supressing Waves ever fully dissipate/stop affecting the heroes or not.

[@Flipitmixit]

This makes a lot more sense!

[@RichDXtreme247]

Hmm…mentioning of 21 having absorbed Jiren’s strength or copy UI or the G.O.D transformation sounds like an unlikely scenario due to key factors: - Jiren will probably form a barrier with just his glare to block 21’s sweet beam and he’ll be completely on guard and as well prepared to fight against foes HE deems as a threat or eliminate those being a nuisance to him. - Ultra Instinct and the God of Destruction form is something that isn’t easily obtained even for an android, it would be embarrassing for the gods that #21 can simply copy a Hakaishin transformation. From what Toppo showed, he had to sacrifice parts of himself mentally to activate it. It’s not a just biological transformation, it’s a state of being just like UI. And the Hakaishin form is something different than Vegeta’s Ultra Ego. It just sounds like something all Gods of Destruction must LEARN to use and master as a deity before earning the job.

[@myriad8275]

It’s her buu cells that allow her to copy techniques. Also, I doubt he means he transformation and moreso the ability to replicate the hakai abilities, as goku blue without any prior training with it was able to use it on fused zamasu.

[@RichDXtreme247]

@@myriad8275 Note that was only in the manga variant of Super, #21 is following the animeverse of DBS. Manga DBS!Goku copying Hakai just like how he first understood the Kamehameha as a child and proceeded to learn more and more techniques as years go by, but the thing about Goku’s use of Hakai as you said but it is not truly authentic like a G.O.D. So I still doubt that with 21’s Majin cells, she can’t copy any divine techniques due to her biomechanical nature unlike Kid Buu learning Instant Transmission as it would be easy for someone like him since it’s a mortal technique. Now mind you, Buu is a Djinn, something purely of magic yet a pure physical being of evil and can be killed. A thing like Buu would be understandable to learn godly techniques since it absorbed the Supreme Kais but 21 as an Android, while capable of physically mimicking Buu’s form and mimicking certain attacks, she can’t replicate everything Buu can naturally do as it is magic and science and technology will never understand the power of magic’s capabilities. Which is how I believe that 21 cannot be able to learn anything that is meant to be divine in nature like God or Hakaishin Ki and 21 is not a pure Djinn like Buu either. As for taking down strong opponents like Jiren, she’s certainly not gonna win in a fight. As for beings like Hit is a little iffy, for it’s something Hit can do and improve upon drastically to make his Time Skip easier for himself but tougher for his opponents to figure out the patterns. Yes, Goku figured it out with his martial arts experience but if someone were to copy Time Skip, it would probably take them longer to IMPROVE the power like Hit could along with his style of fighting.

[@leifomusic]

Another entertaining video man. I'm really looking forward to finishing all the videos on your channel today and I look forward to what you will be making in the coming months ahead. Either way, good luck and thank you for some amazing video essays on the DB-verse :) - leifo

[@flatutlencetheunending]

i have to say, i really enjoy your dragonball videos

[@SKT_Light]

THE BANGER HAS DROPPED

[@GODKILLERR888]

3:23 much of anything 💀👀 she wants glizzy

[@lqgjack9520]

The hottest new tastemaker on the block!

[@bombshooter7959]

is anyone gonna talk about how gero bagged 21 in the first place

[@teoleno4019]

The old man has rizz

[@ssdigwa1995]

21....can you do something for meh

[@broarios]

Strongest woman and badde-

[@notsocool_dude97]

It actually a potara trait to not succomb to candification. of in other words, majin buu could fight Jiren and win with his candy beam alone

[@teoleno4019]

Omg I love Vomi. How tf did Dr Gero pull her? 😂

[@lakotatheenigma9767]

I hope we somewhat see more of 21 in future and with her hopefully being a main villain for a future storyline. Hell I wouldn’t mind if she’s actually going to be the main villain for the next Dragon Ball movie. If she is, then I do hope the next movie is a Goten and Trunks storyline with Android 21 as the main villain and Goten as the main protagonist along with a story that has centered movie that takes place a little after Super Hero and has Goten and Trunks going through huge amounts of character development, growth, reaching new levels of power, achieving Ssj2, achieving Ssj3 individually without fusion, and even mastering and evolving Ssj3 as well as Goten training under Android 17, Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha while Trunks trains under Gohan and Gamma 1 along with Goten and Trunks working with Krillin, Jaco, Gamma 1, and Hedo throughout the movie to take down last of the Red Ribbon army and enemy Androids before they eventually face Android 21. Plus it would be cool to see a way stronger, more focused, and more disciplined teen Gotenks fighting against Android 21.

[@clintonbehrends4659]

honestly I like to think that the candy thing with vegito is because of the potara in that it's a polymorh effect and given oolong and puar can move as inatimate object maybye if your effected already by a polymorph getting hit by another doesn't limit movement

[@lancetheking7524]

She'd be an amazing arsenal to the team, imagine if he got the DNA and cells of moro or anyone else too

[@kage1573]

I see your points but I respectfully disagree. Android 21 would most likely be around Rose Goku Black, Goku Super Saiyan Blue and Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue because through the Future Trunks arc Goku and Vegeta were constantly getting stronger due to either training or zenkai boost while it being likely that Android 17 would be around their level also due to his potential and strength before the TOP. I don't think that Android 21 could replicate things like Ultra Instinct and Time Skip because they are more complicated abilities than Instant transmission due to the user needing a calm heart and creating a dimension of time and moving through it which is in contrast with her personality; going by this she might be able to seal away Zamasu by eating him but she wouldn't get past Goku Black due to him constantly increasing his power through pain and any other villain after him would be too much for her to handle. We also saw Moro after regaining his full magic power absorbing energy for the Daikaishin multiple times which shows she wouldn't be immune to it and it is likely Moro would outsmart her due to having millions of years of combat experience and strategies which were seen in the arc which makes it difficult for her to win.

[@PlanetLevelDB]

Wrong

[@kage1573]

@@PlanetLevelDB How so?

[@dwvlogs3127]

@@PlanetLevelDB ok eveything else i can understand but lurning ultra instinct ummmmmm idk about that obsorbing goku i can understand that.

[@Error-yd9wp]

​@@PlanetLevelDB sooooo mature

[@PlanetLevelDB]

I just work off what is said in the series and by the authors. If Majins can copy "any technique by seeing it once" and Ultra Instinct is a technique then by the same logic they can copy that. Youre welcome to disagree, everyones got their own interpretations!

[@ParisTheGreat]

I'm sorry, but when Android 16 yelled out "21!!!" All I could think of was...."Can you do sum for meeee!" 😩🤣😂

[@rayronnyd4659]

Do yo thang 21

[@Mustis91]

Cant wait for androids 69 and 420

[@vgernyc]

The thing is if Good Android 21 absorbed Zamasu, she would become evil due to his evil nature.

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

I think the best way to introduce Android 21 in Super is to remove her Majin Form at least in the beginning and make her a shemer behind the scenes. Maybe she was the secret boss behind Red Pharmaceuticals, waiting in her stasis pod until her body is fully tranformed into a an Android superior to Gamma 1 and Gamma 2, I can see Carmine reporting back to her in a secret lab and 21 reveals her true plans; covertly taking over the world and establishing an army of Red Ribbon Androids. This way she will try to recruit her grandson Hedo, creating a storyline where Hedo will turn 21 to good side

[@GIRru11]

Of course the best Dragon Ball girl gets the biggest power cap

[@CrazyGamer19851]

Great video but the real question I wonder is if she can get SSG & SSB🤔? given all the sayian DNA she should have in her she be comparable to a half sayian I think.

[@marthikeroy4599]

Im kinda confused in comparing android 21 to goku and vegeta using blue form when they werent shown using it vs her (unless there is something im missing).

[@majmiko5440]

14:09 also zenkai boosts from near-death expiriences from saiyan cells

[@darrennevels796]

I’m probably the only person that was thinking of 21 savage lol

[@user-de2pk2us6g]

I mean .. . Everyone saw the thumbnail so

[@PulledFLFGBANDFLFSV]

She is OP as hell you can spam the attacks cause it just needs 1 bar plus the unblockable attack that literally takes out almost all the opponents health

[@williamklemp3764]

....I didn't even know she was an android....

[@justsomeguywithamustache3188]

I like this video, however I don't think she's anywhere near ssg level let alone blue

[@alexmackey335]

Android 21 was savage!

[@randomgamerkid20]

Can you power scale shallot from dragon ball legends

[@dogo523]

im probably the only person who wishes shes added to tenkaichi 4 but despite the fact shes very probably not being added i have hope

[@brandallblack5833]

She should of been the bad guy in DragonBall Hero instead of a lame Cell that would've been epic.

[@oolooo]

Best DB Waifu is strong , of course

[@chimuoma390]

She can liquefy herself and arouse me any day!Love Her And Wish She Was In Supersonic Warriors 2!

[@oolooo]

@@chimuoma390 Alright , calm down

[@djtoxicdhg]

Could you emagen if she traind with goku and vachita

[@huggywuggy2202]

I’m still questioning if f ZAMASU could become immortal Zamasu and take down 21 like that as that version in the anime is what I can assume galaxy level of power or higher.

[@vegitob]

17:47 song?

[@fictionschmiction4478]

I will say the issue with copying UI is that her body would get absolutely destroyed, even someone like Goku who was purposely trained to use it couldn't use it the first couple times without being left utterly done in. The manga supports this too with Goku stating he had to train his body to handle it. Overall a great analysis though! She's stupid strong!

[@VestedUTuber]

Majin bullshit, remember? Even if it wrecks her body she'll just regenerate to compensate. Might make her appear a little melty while using it (like how Buu looks while regenerating), but that's it. On a side note, a Majin with UI would be absolutely hilarious. Imagine how they'd be able to deform and reform their bodies to dodge and counter attacks as though they're basically a liquid.

[@gabrielkawa3477]

Wrong. She wouldn't be destroyed, at all, much less in her Majin form. She has ridiculous regeneration powers, is a Majin, and most things wouldn't even begin to hurt her. She also needs to have ALL her cells destroyed or she'll come back even stronger thanks to her Saiyan cells and Cell's cells. She would get insane zenki boosts for a while and would probably gain a new ability like Cell did after almost being killed. 21 would probably be able to just get stronger the longer she fights and that power would substitute her power for eating for power scaling sake. She would still eat because she wouldn't be able to control her urges.

[@Ricky72072]

The has to be after top because 17 said he had never met Goku before it

[@EV-Elvar]

remember that the pure of heart dont get affected by the spirit bomb they cant take damage correct me if im wrong and also the reason goku got damaged by his own spirit bomb is because there was a stronger power pushing it back so good 21 shouldnt be killed by gokus spirit bomb she would just be damaged dbfzs story makes no sense to me

[@EV-Elvar]

i meant about the part where 21 dies

[@PlanetLevelDB]

21 would not be pure of heart even though she is considered "Good 21" she still has a hunger from the Majin Cells no matter how faint. Just like Evil Buu split from Fat Buu but Fat Buu is still far from "pure of heart"

[@GraveEnd]

Is android 21 majin form a base form or is it a transformation similar to super saiyan

[@divineboi97]

What is android 21 a majin buu?

[@StareachValcin]

I would argue that Android 21 is stronger than Android 17 even during the tournament of power, but that doesn't mean she's stronger than super saiyan blue Goku, let alone super saiyan blue kaioken. While Android 17 during the tournament of power arc was strong enough to force Goku to go super saiyan blue, it doesn't necessarily mean that 17 was as strong as super saiyan blue. There is evidence that Goku and Vegeta in their super saiyan blue forms are stronger than 17. Android 21 herself would definitely be able to compete with super saiyan blue, but super saiyan blue kaioken would be too much for her. Fused Zamasu would also be too powerful for 21, even if she's one of the few beings to be able to counteract future Zamasu's immortality. I also don't think that 21 could defeat Moro, though due to the Majin Buu cells she has, she would be immune to his magic. Moro became strong enough to defeat ultra instinct omen Goku, so I don't think 21 can compete with that level of power. Plus, 21 having the ability to learn techniques quickly doesn't mean she would be able to copy techniques like the time skip or the ultra instinct technique. Time skip alone is a technique that manipulates time itself, a rather complicated technique. The ultra instinct technique is also a state in which the body moves independently from the mind, not a technique easily copied or learned. I do think that Android 21 would be the strongest female in universe 7, capable of fighting on par with the saiyans.

[@Flipitmixit]

Smart comment

[@StareachValcin]

@@Flipitmixit thanks for the compliment.

[@willclark4449]

android 21 is also in DBZ kakorot. so she might be canon?

[@DTConan]

which game is this from?

[@apdsouza]

2:21 Can you do somethin' for me?

[@somebodyinsane1818]

i actually just heard its in a game and have 2 forms never thought she is actually that busted, i mean ik she have buu's cell cus majin form, but umm no not canon (do not) i will not admit the movie how gohan struggling to goons as canon (screw golden frezia arc and new 3d animated movie that i already forgot) that 1 naughty hxxxxx i read of how ginyu stole her body do messed up things are actually accurate that she is capable of beating up Caulifla and Kale or Broly at the state of the current anime wtf (i thought it was all to fulfill the h fantasy of aurthor)

[@dankdude5836]

I don't mean to be rude but the cutscenes only show Goku and Vegeta were only ssj not in there God form I just want to know how can compare her to their God forms

[@PlanetLevelDB]

This story takes place after the Universe 6 Tournament. During the story mode you can play as SSB Goku/Vegeta and Goku talks about being full power. I take this at its word because its more interesting and just assume they didnt want to remodel the hair and auras for Blue when this story came out. But if you want to take it as they are only using SSJ thats fine too!

[@dankdude5836]

@@PlanetLevelDB oh ok thanks for clearing things up because I don't think she ssjb level because of the earthings, piccolo, need to help and this is before t.o.p so I think Goku and Vegeta still couldn't go blue is just that they can go full power ssj

[@PlanetLevelDB]

I believe some people were saying if you reach max levels in the Story Mode they will appear as SSB? I just heard it in comments so could be wrong, take with a grain of salt

[@dankdude5836]

@@PlanetLevelDB I will go with cutscenes most of the time and my point is that if piccolo and krillin can fight and still be alive I don't because of 21 is ssjb kaioken 10x they should have been one shot but the cutscenes shows them beat up how did they survive there is no reason that they should be alive this is before T.O.P

[@Flipitmixit]

Thank you. Really dont understand how he completely disregards this😂

[@Almighty_WarriorZ]

how did android 16 come back to life if this is after the goku black arc??

[@user-tv3sk5cs4w]

She has the most potential of any fighter we know currently... I mean just think... If she became cannon and appears in current manga... Everyone is SCREWED.... She would get access to things like ue... Boosting her already insane defence to truly terrifying levels and thanks to her regen ego would be an infinite source of power.. as unless you can destroy her entirely in 1 shot all that damage will just make her even stronger and more devastating... And then if she copies kioken on top of that its ggs... The kioken would be damaging her and that damage would boost her power meaning her power would constantly increase just by standing there with no drawbacks... Not even black frieza would stand a chance against 21 if she steals goku and Vegetas abilities... I mean what is he gonna do? Even just her base form using kioken would be a decent challenge but then the boost of ego AND kioken giving her infinite power? It would be wraps for frieza...

[@ADzDaRRman]

I assume if she was cannon, there would be some things she couldnt absorb, ultra ego/instinct etc

[@misterio337]

What about granola,gas,black freeza and cell max?

[@Flipitmixit]

Would all destroy 21 in an instant

[@The-fs5wn]

She would get vaporized if she tried to pick a fight with Vados or Marcarita, both of which are way stronger than Beerus.

[@NexusBlackMamba]

W Video

[@Ricky72072]

The has to be after top because 17 said they had never met before it

[@Error-yd9wp]

Ya but ui and time skip are far more advanced techniques then instant transmission and her power is more on the lines if sbkk goku not mui moro

[@joshmcbride9744]

i resent the starting line of this, bulma is the most influential character in the whole series

[@PlanetLevelDB]

Didnt know Bulma was a "strong female fighter"

[@joshmcbride9744]

​@PlanetLevelDB you quoted yourself wrong bro 😂

[@jheidn]

Android 21 fine asl, she bad af fr.

[@jheidn]

ayo😳😂

[@YourTribalQueef]

Id say shes around ssj god level

[@halkras]

Think about about it Frieza spend 4 years to become golden and 10 years to become "Black Cell would achieve these forms shorter time thanks to mixed cells he has And Android 21 is basically improved version of Cell with Majin Cells, she has the potential enough to become an unstoppable force Lock her up to Hyperbolic time chamber for 3 days and she'll be one of biggest thread to Time Patrollers (She would be a good xeno warrior counters Towa) **if she didnt have Urge-hunger nonesense

[@setyourschoolablaze9655]

idc how strong she is i just hope she lets me hit

[@BloodDragon-rp4xc]

if she becomes canon, as much as shes one of my favorites, i hope to god shes not a hero, at least not mainly. with her being a hero she just low key invalidates all characters, as shed no doub be even better at gaining power than frieza via training, add with her majin abilities to gain power, and the saiyan ability to get stronger from any near death moment(which cells was already more dramatic than a saiyans so god forbid whoever makes the mistake of not finishing her if they somehow get a chance) and you just get a character that just CAN-NOT exist long term as a constant presence. and toning her down would just be lame. i feel a weaker good version and a broken evil version would be the only way to make it work, the game really is the only way she would work over all. even how they both end

[@katherineevangelia9649]

if i am the one making the game, i will make the second season of Android 21, The Resurrection of Super Android 21. she is still alive, because before she is killed or even before facing the last battle, she already split some part of her body, so if the main part is destroyed, it will revived with that part. then revived of her is stronger than ever by the saiyan cell zenkai boost. Then Next she back to the place she is killed and summon all the cells that survived and hidden beneath the ground, that cells including the good android 21 cells, she devour it and become Super Android 21 , just like how android 17 become Super Android 17. Now She is More Perfect Than Ever. Those, in this Arch, she can tapped more power of Saiyan Cells and Demon God Cells['Majin], she can transform to Super Android 21 SSj4 And Also Using the Power of Demon God and tranform her body again, sprouting 2 Black Horn, the more Demon God Power she tapped, The More Horn and Unkown Tatto Appear on Her Body and new parts will also Appear, Such as Demon Wings, Demon Eyes, Demon Claw And So on. and her Aura also will become more darker with many dark lightning and dark lights glowing here and there.

[@Zhiham_]

2:21 can you do sum for me

[@Jiren913]

Weren't all of the z fighters nerfed by the waves? So she's not actually stronger than blue vegeta or goku

[@PlanetLevelDB]

That is explained in the vid

[@Jiren913]

@Planet Level I just watched it so I might have missed it. What's the explanation?

[@PlanetLevelDB]

The waves also affected 21 and then they were neutralized and Goku said he was back to full power

[@Jiren913]

@@PlanetLevelDB I don't remember 21 fighting goku or vegeta in their blue forms in the story mode tho

[@Boy54-qp5pg]

Broly might have to reconsider the power of THIS albin-monkey😏 What?🤨 She's basically 18, but with more: Plot🌚

[@masonhall2297]

Shouldn't the good andriod 21 survive since the spirit bomb only harms people with evil. And since the good is separated from the bad the spirit bomb shouldn't have killed her

[@user-tv3sk5cs4w]

I can see her copying kioken and easily curb stomping even the fighters we currently have... I mean maybe not black frieza but certainly people like goku tui and ego vegeta.... I mean just think in xenoverse when your playing kioken goku and you use a regen capsule your basically unkillable in every way... It completely negates the damage of kioken... So her NATURALLY having a regeneration that is as good as a MAJINS... She could use some pretty crazy high levels of kioken with NO downside... Maybe well into the 30's without even approching a "lethal" level... Then you have to consider the fact she can split a piece of herself off and then use kioken to lethal levels without risk of dying because she has a piece hidden elsewhere... So if we say kioken 200 is the max she can go without injury and 400 before outright dying to it... That would mean she can plant a piece of herself someplace far off before a fight and then pull an android 17 and dome herself and self destruct using kioken 400+.... This would be a DEVASTATING attack that she can do basically infinitely unless her enemy finds the hidden piece and destroys it in time... But you then have to consider the possibility that she can make clones of herself like buu could... Then you have to find each clone and she could have DOZENS scattered across the world... It would just be an endless kamakazi barrage... Meaning your essentially fighting thousands or even millions of 21's all using kioken 400 and self destructing and putting ALL her power into it... THATS A LOT OF POWER PACKED INTO THAT...

[@ThaGhostGhod]

I’m gonna say some controversial tihs that I think a lot of people would agree with me on…Android 21 is the Morrigan Aensland of Dragon Ball.

[@user-de2pk2us6g]

21 strongest dB woman Vados: Margarita: (I don't remember the short one's name lol:)

[@jasonwhite7910]

Dragon ball heroes women are stronger

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

Yeah, I forgot 18 is cold when it comes to showing compassion, yet she's the second greatest mom/wife in the franchise. (First is Videl since she was the closest thing to a perfect mom, and a perfect wife, even though her husband basically cares more about work than his family. The third is Gine. She could switch with second or first, but we did not see her doing anything motherly besides talking with her tube baby, caring for her sons, and saving Goku. I hope we get more from her.)

[@dbtacobueno]

Bulma and ChiChi are way better moms than Gine.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@dbtacobueno lmfao, Bulma brought her baby to the android fight almost getting them both killed, let her young child fight the androids that killed the z warriors, and we saw how GT bra ended up. As for chichi her entire character puts her as the worst mother, grandmother, and wife in the series. That’s just priceless.

[@dbtacobueno]

@@ginnungagapabyss5639 "lmfao🤓that's just priceless" Go wash your ass and get out of that greasy chair you've been in for the past 6 hours. Fucking geek.

[@dbtacobueno]

@@ginnungagapabyss5639 You can't even go off of GT since it isn't canon to the original timeline. And also you're going off of the Future Trunks Timeline version of Bulma, which again, ISN'T THE MAIN CONTINUITY nor is it the main Bulma we see in any point after the Androids saga. Yeah you can argue Chi-Chi being a bad parent in any timeline or canon we've seen, but Bulma? Again, to restate my point, you're not using the Bulma we see throughout the main continuity/timeline we see in Dragon Ball. I kinda agree with ChiChi being a bad parent though.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@dbtacobueno I hate it when people misuse canon for a series, your trying to say main timeline, but even that does not work for your argument the series itself goes against it, also you ignored the whole Bulma taking her baby to a battlefield. The original future trunks timeline is the main timeline until trunks created a new timeline. DBGT is the continuation of the original end of z timeline. Not to mention of course Bra would end up the way she did in GT, original db Bulma was using her body to get whatever she wanted, and didn’t even care unless she did not plan it, she was throwing herself at guy’s she was into, and wanted to wish for a boyfriend, honestly Vegeta is probably the reason Bra was just a flirty girl that hung out with the wrong crowd, she could have been just like Bulma at her age. Not too mention the fact DBS rebooted the end of z, everything we found out about the last 10 years after kid Buu was defeated was rebooted. Goten, and Trunks were rebooted, with the creator forgetting them, and just keeping them as children because they forgot. Zenkai boost were altered, the 2 movies that helped start super were rebooted twice. (Well resurrection of F was skipped over in the manga).

[@inkchariot6147]

Couldn't they wish Good 21 back? If she can eat, process and digest food, then shouldn't she be technically alive? She has enough Majin cells to make her a living being.

[@MacBEASTyo23]

21 having the Majin cells dont really matter in this case. The core of her being is still artificial, like Cell and the other Androids, excluding 17 & 18.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@MacBEASTyo23 Except that Cell was literally wished back in FighterZ, making that point moot. Seems to be that you can wish back any being that has a soul. 16 couldn't come back because he's purely a machine, and thus soulless.