The Terrifying Reality of MAGIC in Dragon Ball

[@PlanetLevelDB]

I had the start of some sort of Cold when I recorded my audio for this so apologies that the narration is a bit scuffed and less expressive than usual, hope you all still enjoy :) Dont forget to join us in the Discord if you havent already! discord.gg/qYcYtwq9hy

[@AtenSol12]

I did still enjoy! I did note the lack of usual expression and was curious Thanks!

[@CVargas202]

namekians came from a different dimension.

[@patrickk1417]

Totally mispronounced kummywummywa

[@Rekora_Wulf]

@PlanetLevelDB Mafuba does not nullify magic. The only thing you can draw from mafuba scenes is 2 things. SSGSS Vegeta can't escape out of it, and neither could Zamasu. By context, it seems that all you can do is speak and watch because your entire physiology seems to alter in some way. Almost like you become like an ethereal spirit. It seems you can not take any meaningful action once you are developed in that light. The fact that it's described as a type of "seal" should heavily imply that. For you to prove that it does anything beyond that will be almost impossible unless you straight up asked Toriyama. I love this video, though. I like your attitude and style and you earned a new sub for life.

[@POTATOEMPN]

Bro, in their universe Ki is literally another form of magic, aka energy. I've read into it and basically the Evil Containment Wave is just locking them in a super-concentrated pokeball of Ki, aka Chi, aka Energy/Magic. They are just different versions of magic. Even the Destroyer Ki is just one shape of Energy. To elaborate on that, it's just different paths to enlightenment. Roshi works on his body, but also he works more on his spirit and his mind. His soul, so to speak. He might be stronger than most humans ever, but he is not like Goku and Vegeta. They have attained enlightenment through the body path. Babidi went all the way with soul but in an evil way. Same energy, just all being used differently.

[@Xion_Toshiro]

The fact that Characters can be imprisoned in, of all things, a rice cooker (no joke) alone, is a testament to the magical shenanigans of Dragon Ball

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Demons in db maybe more powerful than we can imagine

[@El_chara]

@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman That's why putting the literal demon king as the side bitch of the side bitch of buu is crazy to me

[@r.connor9280]

Making Gohan a magic user to defend the Earth would have been a nice work around to the whole Pacifist and bookworm aspects

[@theatlantean8036]

It makes more sense for Piccolo to be a magic user

[@dankerbell]

but beast

[@r.connor9280]

@@dankerbell defeats the point of his non combatant nature as it's fueled by rage.

[@pharaohninety]

If Gohan started using magic they could call him Mystic Gohan

[@r.connor9280]

@@pharaohninety But this time It's explained better and does more than just a transformation

[@matti.8465]

Mr. Popo is such an enigma when you think about it. What even is he? He's not a former mortal like Beerus, and has likely been around for longer than Kami and his predecessors. He has absurd magical abilities. Mr. Popo might be some sort of primordial being.

[@Piccolo_Sun]

The spirit of the Earth

[@PlanetLevelDB]

I have a previous video on Mr. Popo with a theory on where he comes from that you might like :)

[@kleefirestar]

Black

[@ChargeQM]

My theory is that he's like a sort of angel, who only exists to guide the current Guardian of Earth, but cannot wield his power to do harm.

[@Piccolo_Sun]

@@ChargeQM the stronger the Earth becomes the stronger popo gets

[@jonnjones8263]

This is why Piccolo should have been a magic user. A long time ago they had him acknowledge that he could never keep up with the saiyans in terms of ki(even though this has now been retconned) so why not give him something else? Make him specialize in magic and take him back to his roots by making him the Demon King again.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

I feel like him merging with Kami should have given him a much wider toolkit when it comes to magic.

[@SilverAlex92]

The issue with this is the buu issue. When a character can one hit everyone, say by turning them into chocolate and ignoring power gaps, you can't use them in any fight with stakes, as it removes any tension. A magical piccolo would be sidelined even harder than he is now and buu is the living proof of it.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​​@@SilverAlex92 dbverse is op, I'd be learning all of this if i was a Saiyan on earth

[@stefanogandino9192]

True, except orange piccolo >>> any saiyan in top in term of pure chi

[@JustADemon2023]

I’d say Metamoran and Potara Fusion could also be considered magical in nature. Though, I’d consider Potara as more magical as it is naturally a divine power and may provide unique abilities to the user beyond an insane power boost. Vegito was able to keep his power and mind after being turned into a piece of candy by Buu (a thing with no organs, brain, eyes, nose, mouth or flesh and bones in general; it’s not a living thing, but Vegito acted like nothing major happened at all, he could still see, communicate and fight Buu with little to no effort). Some would say that because he was just insanely stronger than Buu, it didn’t work as planned, but it’s stated that it was unique to him (Vegito being the first mortal Potara Fusion in the series, so there wasn’t anyone like him to make such a comparison beyond Elder Kai or Fused Supreme Kai) and it may have less to do with his power and more to do with his nature as a being formed by magical divine earrings. Since the divine would be magical in nature and therefore unnatural to us, using logic for Vegito’s feat isn’t really possible beyond saying, “It’s just a unique ability he has mortals don’t possess”.

[@NexusZ97]

I suppose Potara makes sense. The Kai’s are predisposed to some types of Magic. Metamoran fusion is a technique though. So I don’t know about Magic

[@XJ-0641]

I mean, the evil containment wave / mafuba is also a technique, but is very clearly magic, so...

[@jourdansarpy4935]

@@NexusZ97 you can say it's a technique but it literally creates a whole new person. It's almost like a time based magic spell.

[@JeiJohnson]

Metamorians... Goku said the whole race wasn't worth a damn as fighters but they had "strange abilities", something he couldn't elaborate on. It's likely that it's because they are magic users as a race and Goku doesn't exactly know magic outside of his Nyoi bo - which he discarded. But the fact Gogeta is magical in nature due to the "Fusion Dance" is because it's an actual ritual. Just like in real life, if you botch a ritual at any point, you'll get a failed product. The dance itself is only part of the ritual because you also need to have someone increase or decrease their power level to be roughly the same as their mirrored counterpart - there are multiple parts to it that need to be done correctly or you'll end up with incorrect fusions, like the fat and old versions of Gogeta and Gotenks. But as for the Potara Earrings, they were "divine objects" meant for the Kaioushin - though surprisingly the Time Rings were considered magic-based because of the fact they appeared whenever a timeline was distorted and not a divine artifact that has been set in stone. Thus while "fusion" is a thing, it isn't magical like a ritual. It just happens as a force of nature kind of fusion with no backlash. So while Gogeta and Gotenks are magic-based, Vegito isn't a magic based fusion. Psychic users are also "magical" in nature - looking up the definition and examples given, they have extremely similar features. Psychic is just a off-shoot of magic. Funny thing about magic... Only magic users have performed feats that deal with dimension hopping or time stopping - meaning power doesn't matter. Mr. Popo - the genie who seals and stocks the room of Spirit and Time, Bibidi/Babidi literal space wizards that have shown to immediately swap people from one plane of existence to another, Buu who screams in anger and starts merging/shattering dimensional holds, Chiaotsu who is the only Z-fighter who can immobilize a target with his abilities as he creates a small pocket dimension around his opponent (although it can be over-powered if the opponent is strong enough), Guldo who can stop time and claimed to be unparalleled in his psychic abilities, he literally didn't use ki-based attacks at all. Hit who literally stores time in a pocket dimension, but unlike Chiaotsu, uses it to slip through time just a bit but it's a skill that he has to trigger - when he uses it on someone else like Goku or Jiren, it's the same as Chiaotsu; it can be overpowered if the opponent is stronger. Goku Black, who held the time ring and was confused how he could open a portal to another timeline and clone himself. Gotenks who mimicked Buu to get out of the Room of Spirit and Time. Gogeta who fought Broly and was confused when he and Broly clashed and they appeared in an alternate dimension - he had no idea how he triggered it, it was a complete accident. Literally time and space abilities are controlled by magic, not ki. You'd think that Jiren (who is a fighter) or a god of destruction or even Vegito could perform such feats with how strong they are, but none of them can do that. Which means all the spectactular feats are not because of how powerful someone is when it comes to their fighting or ki-potential... It's literally all done by magic. I got off on a tangent, but I wanted to explain why one fusion is magical and the other isn't.

[@JustADemon2023]

⁠@@JeiJohnson You have a lot of interesting thoughts, but I must disagree with some things. What we consider as magic is unnatural to us, a force that allows its welders to perform certain feats we aren’t naturally able to. To us, if the fighters of DB existed in our world, they could be viewed as such because their power is something we can’t ever hope to obtain with our own real world training, but in their world, it’s natural to gain these abilities through different methods of training, so we in turn don’t view them as magical beings in their world. Magic in DB doesn’t always require some sort of ritual to be performed. Like Buu’s candy beam doesn’t require any special requirements to be used, just a desire at a given time by the technique’s user. Some forms of magic require rituals, but again, not all magic is bound by this idea. Vegito is formed by divine means, means that are unnatural to mortals and can be viewed as magical because it is unnatural. The divine is unknown, mystical, abnormal, magical and unnatural to what we know which is natural. Even Vegito’s feat is unnatural, being able to act normally as a piece of candy is unnatural and unexpected by the one who used magic to change him. It’s not even about power, it’s simply stated to be a unique ability Vegito could preform (again, him being the first mortal potara fusion is the series, it’s not unlikely that statement made at that time is strictly bound to Vegito). As for rituals, the Potara follows a simple one; for two beings to wear one earring on the opposite side of the other. Again, it’s not complicated, but it’s still qualifiable as one. And they follow current rules, that once the fusion is complete, if you’re a mortal, then it will only last an hour unless you’re power lessens that time. If you’re a Kai, then the fusion is permanent unless you use the power of the Dragons Balls to wish to be defused (the Namekian Dragon Balls were used for this, so for the case of lesser gods like the Kais, their power can be surpassed by mortals, along with their creations. One form of mortal magic can overcome the divine through a power difference, which made Bibidi’s creation of Buu such big threats to them). Same for the God forms of Super, though training is able to grant a mortal race these forms, it’s only through the training of the divine that Goku and Vegeta could achieve this level and go even beyond it. However, unnatural beings like Frieza, Gohan, Trunks, Broly and others were able to match and even surpass the power that Goku and Vegeta had gained through their divine training. These mortals are considered unique or unnatural beings who can challenge the divine through natural means. Despite the power Goku and Vegeta have gained, they are still mortals, tied to the natural and only use the unnatural power they obtained for their own mortal purposes while the gods use that same power for higher means to keep balance in their own universe. Some mortals can become gods/divine beings like The Destroyers and The Angels, but once they obtain their positions, they are bound to the laws of the divine and have to put their once mortal desires aside for the sake of balance or suffer the consequences for breaking their oaths. In other words, Vegito is a magical being because of the forces that allowed him to exist, the Potara are the creations of the divine for the purpose of fusion if required or desired. Metamoran Fusion is also magical in nature because it was developed by a mortal race that developed unnatural techniques, so even the mortals are capable of such things, it’s just to a lesser degree than the divine, the truly magical. There’s a reason that the Super Dragon Balls are the most powerful, the mortals created their own versions, but some level of the divine perfected the concept.

[@JosephTheRocker]

Toryama will watch this and be like "Wow, im learning so much about Dragonball!"

[@Solesteam]

8:10 This also explains why the Mafuba in particular is VERY deadly for a weaker soul to use (ex: Classic DB Roshi). It wasn't built with mortal bodies in mind and thus, it has no power output cap.

[@SwnkyTiger]

"Magic must defeat magic" - Uncle

[@SabeNo-rh7mb]

*Damn! He was right!* 🤣

[@cloudsymbol7890]

Jackie Chan adventures?

[@painebatke9144]

This entire video is exactly what i was thinking. Also it might explain the "i can't make shenron do this because it surpasses the creators power", because many people assume they are talking about their battle power when disscusin this when in reality they're taking about another different type of power that namekians posses.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Logical

[@QuintonDale-wd1ro]

I love that someone is finally pointing out how busted and overpowered all godly or sealing techniques are and that not just raw power can make it through all of dragon ball

[@ngud_gaming267]

When you think about it magic in db is done really well because no matter the power levels magic still has the obscurity and aura of defeating things that conventional means wouldn’t

[@gokan73]

Your narration, writing and explanations is too good and top tier my guy

[@lunakingsley.7247]

Shadow dragon's negative energy seems to be the negative version of magic. Also yurin and Fortuneteller baba use witch magic. Yurin directly learned her's from a witch. Also we have seen characters resist magic with their ki (Vegeta does it in the Buu saga.).

[@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838]

Negative version of magic? That sounds more like the demon guys who get a bigger role in heroes. In DB u don even gotta understand how the hax works to beat it. W/ the exception of cooler and goku round 2. “Instant transmission is my fav technique” proceeds to chase down goku in the teleporting “pocket dimension” You can bend time to ur will and created a new trump card when u can already snipe someone w/a fist? Don’t matter if u unholy stronger than jiren.

[@priestesslucy]

Elder Kai's Ritual to grant the recipient access to the Ultimate State is also Witch magic

[@yeikelamores6085]

​@@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838I wouldn't say that it is a pocket dimension, it is a structure that transcends the concept of time and space.

[@PRO_.G4M3R666]

​@@yeikelamores6085hmm

[@johnsmith5922]

Here's something to ponder. Why does Earth have a god system? Earth is seen by most in space as a mostly worthless back water planet. Yet it's among the few to have someone appointed and blessed with divine ki to become a guardian. It has beings born from the other world that come to act as gods. Korin the cat who can somehow grow beans that seem to exist bo where else that instantly heal the worst injuries. Popo who can do some wild magical acts. The Devil man who can kill a fighter with the slightest impurity in the heart. Earth having it's own personal hell. Baba who can view the future, is immortal and can freely pass into the realm of the dead then revive someone for one day with help from Yama, magical eternal flames summoned by a wizard. What makes this insignificant planet so different from the rest?

[@hugofontes5708]

Would be nice to having anything other than "plot" to answer that. Could argue "anthropic principle" but starting with just eighteen universes feels too few for Earth from that universe to just randomly be both ignored and randomly blessed multiple times over

[@erueka6]

Never liked or understood the backwater useless unknown planet gimmick that makes no sense in universe.

[@Quantris]

if there is an explanation I bet it involves Mr. Popo. It's conceivable that he arrived on Earth before any of the other stuff you mentioned but also why was King Kai the one who knows such an OP technique as Kaio Ken while the other Kais are basically trash

[@Vashkey]

16:40 not a great plan seeing as absorbtion has shown to change Buu's temperment and allegiance. He could just as easily turn on universe 7 as a result not to mention theres no guarantee that after the tournament he'd willingly eject those he absorbed after the resulting personality shift

[@PlanetLevelDB]

Luckily I am not Universe 7s strategist!

[@KeinNiemand]

The Pecking order Is You, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, popos stool, kami, then popo

[@C24U_]

Time manipulation is a bit of a weird one because we have seen it being done by magical means and technological means and within the magical means that’s even subdivided into multi-types. You have the magic rings that allow for both backwards and forward movement in time with seemingly no limit while also having the Angels magic that is a limited time reversal of only a few minutes. But then you have someone like Goldo who can stop time by holding his breath. I recall that he was described as having strong psychic powers but was that just magic? It is limited to his ability to hold his breath so it’s hard to say.

[@Sarzuen]

You could say that technology is like a magic, or taps into magic. It's hard to define magic, but remember an old saying, any sophisticated technology can be indistinguishable from magic.

[@hugofontes5708]

​@@Sarzuencrazy thing is, if we can get record of one of the androids using any magic, this is exactly spot on

[@Ben-mt4jy]

Honestly banger video, seems like it'd have a huge budget but I was genuinely surprised when I saw the view count, this channel needs more attention

[@absolutelyfookinnobody2843]

Honestly bot comment

[@Masterwar15]

Just found your channel and it seems you haven't uploaded in months, such a shame because your content is very good and well made.

[@slipperynickels]

interesting roshi theory, but in early dragonball he just outright states he drank from the fountain of youth to achieve (near-)imperviousness to aging. still magic, but it’s explained. he also opines about no longer being that strong. the ToP was just… unearned, to say the least.

[@PlanetLevelDB]

They also said that Shenron resides in the Center of the Earth in early DB. I admittedly tend to cherry pick from the Original Series because tons of it gets (or already has been) retconned xD

[@ghoulchan7525]

Roshi also had some immortal phoenix according to early DB. But that phoenix died of food poisoning. I think roshi just stacked a lot of different ways to be immortal. Still didn't prevent him from becoming an old man. But he's not gonna die from old age. Sickness and other stuff... Yeah fair game.

[@AugustoEL]

@@ghoulchan7525 You know how Goku is based on Sun Wu Kong? One myth he takes llike 7 different types of inmoprtality. I think Roshi took that part for himself.

[@ghoulchan7525]

@@AugustoEL ok that's kinda funny

[@Applemangh]

I thought it was so cool when they used the evil containment wave in the future Trunks arc. It was so fitting, given Zamasu's underestimation of mortals, that he could have been defeated by something that can be used by someone so weak (by comparison). And they made it pretty clear that it COULD have really worked.

[@giodawg45]

ssj4 magic clothes > zeno erasure

[@dratrav]

I imagine destruction is a form of using magic and ki together. It's why its limited under the same restrictions of Ki such as not being able to be done on beings more powerful then yourself. Its magic aspect comes in the sense of being able to do it instantly and without much warning. Techniques that use destruction varies on the mix of magic to Ki, where as gods of destruction use more Ki than magic but Zeno uses more Magic then Ki. It also fits in to the rules as pure magic, as from the dragon balls, can counteract this Ki-Magic Hybrid

[@tusharkhatri4209]

Your hindu ideology is more refined then other hindus here kudos for bring this up and it really fits well with dragon ball lore 🙌💯🤌

[@DaGaJbmKojJe]

This made me realise that start of Moro arc is not complete BS.

[@cooki3th1ef]

i miss you planet level

[@UberVilla]

With Daima clearing and changing some of this up you gotta come back for a part two video!!!! Namekians originally being from the demon realm (probably), and they have magic, demon king dabura’s spit turning people and objects to stone is magic, was demon king piccolo actually a previous demon king?

[@SuperKamiHemo]

I have to say the demon realm is really the most under portrayed realm in the series. To my knowledge there's only ever been one actual demon realm appearance and that was when Goku went to the demon realm himself to fight a demon in the original dragon Ball. There are also many deities in the original dragon Ball that have yet to make their appearance in dragon Ball super. Which is strange as plenty of mortal characters always seem to make an appearance in one place or another as Easter eggs you'd think some of the deities from the original dragon Ball would appear next to the gods or something even if they're just eating food together on King Kai's world. Guess that's one thing I've always appreciated about dragon Ball as a series is the creator always seems to add an ending or an explanation of what happens to certain characters even if they serve no purpose in the main story at all. If there's anything I do wish they would explain is whether or not King piccolo was truly of the demon race, and being of the demon race would have received the same treatment as Deborah in the afterlife being sent to a place other than hfil?

[@lemurtheory9350]

To me it seems like a code system. Ki and magic are two basic programed in systems with Ki being purely a numbers system and magic having numbers but with priority in "side stepping things" or "rock, paper, scissors" like system but can also do a lesser version of "command codes". Then there's the "command codes" the angels and Gods get: destruction energy="dismantle", erasure="delete/recycle bin", 1creating/2healing="1writing new matter code/2reset to original format" (the magic version probably 1pulls in existing matter and changes it and looks like you creating something/2just accelerates and perfects your healing processes.)

[@bizzle204]

10:19 "he has access to god ki" - citation needed.

[@IjiModo]

This was so interesting! I can't believe that I literally just never considered these techniques as actual magic. Goes to show what you miss when watching a show for 20 years. 😭😭

[@toxicrepeter8607]

Another instance of mortals copying gods must be Metmoran Fusion, which when compared to Potara is much harder to accomplish and lasts only for half the Potara Fusion's duration.

[@ojpickle5923]

Where did you go?

[@Universexy1]

What if GoDs are chosen from mortals is because they NEED some degree of attachment in order to fill the role? Like if it were just Buu, perhaps Buu was an early iteration of the destroyer god but since he was just a “demon” basically he had no attachments, he wasn’t born from that realm = reality. Each of the gods have some sort of attachment.. maybe that’s what keeps them from destroying everything because why tf not? I’m a destroyer and I’m not from here.

[@freakyskull516]

one key thing to remember is magic's place in original dragonball a gag fighting anime and its later adaptation to Z an action fighting anime in early dragonball magic and ki were more or less different versions of the same thing in a sort of goblin buyag kind of deal in late dragonball into Z onward we see magic in its more modern form as its own separate ability ki control allows one to push limits and boundaries within the laws of reality which can sometimes cross into somewhat magical feats like flexing a hole into reality in order to reach a level of power one must walk a path to that power and in order to overpower another your power must exceed theirs if even for an instant magic lets one move outside of boundaries and step aside from power creating direct actions regardless of all that surrounds them imagine if you will a video game and there are two players with cheat engine going both players are unkillable player 1 set his stats so high that due to the game's damage threshold mechanic he can never take damage from anything in the game, this is our ki user like vegeta or krillin. player 2 simply turned off his death flag so no amount of damage or direct scripted event can kill him, this is our magic user like buu or babidi. player 3 is an admin with the developer console open watching all of this happen, this is our godly ability user like the namek dragon clansmen or whis.

[@AtenSol12]

i wonder if whatever "true event" created the db cosmology at large is alsp the source of magic and thus why it is boundless in such regards.

[@dragonsuper6195]

The dragon balls are stated to basically be a deterrent to reality's whims, in other words, they're reality warping wish items

[@fnln3011]

Kamehameha was also from the original series, he learned it by seeing Roshi do it as a kid which kinda dented the man's pride since he mastered that over a fifty year timespan. The thing that makes goku's stronger is simply that he has the raw power to bring out more of a ki attack's full potential.

[@stefanogandino9192]

Dunno, saiyan biology may veri likely play a role here beyond the same "more power and more chi to dispose". It may very well mean "natural predisposition to use chi without needing for any training".

[@gingeas]

13:24 Zeno has the pass????

[@SilverAlex92]

Oh wow! That was super interesting. Like the ONE rule dragonball's Ki techniques follow is that they cant overcome a huge gap of power. Krillin's keinsan wasnt able to cut Perfect's Cell neck because of the power gap. Hit's time stop could barely contain Jiren, and only for a bit, after that Jiren broke through sheer force. Same with the other guy who stopped time in the freezer arc, but was treated as mdeium level grunt, his technique would never work on Freezer for example. I never realized that magical techniques dont obey this rule. If the mafuba was a Ki technique Master Roshi wouldnt have been useless in the tournament of power. Thanks for this video!

[@TheJadeFist]

At some point in og Dragon Ball anime (maybe different in the manga idk) I seem to remember it was stated that Master Roshi drank from the fountain of youth, and has significantly slowed his aging process. Which might have some divine connection itself. We even see that the Nameks can live for hundreds up to the low thousands of years, and it could be their inate magic that is responsible for that.

[@theroyalcat6462]

Always love your vids, keep it up

[@Schwazoom]

A video on DB magic without mentioning Fortuneteller Baba is strange

[@kazemizu]

She got a passing mention

[@kennedy8926]

Moro is a perfect example. He wasn't that powerful, but his magic made him 0P almost.

[@megaprotodude]

Mr. Popo is so OP. He can match up to two super Saiyan kids

[@StarlightLancer01]

I knew magic was somewhat busted in DB but damn... imagine someone perfecting or having an entire skill set based purely on magic, like absolute flawless, unhindered magical power paired with combat experience and divine power? They would only ever lose to plot.

[@acceptgub]

I have my own little theory that ki derived from magical or divine sources is pink, which is why Zamasu, Buu, and other Kai's ki blasts are usually pink

[@DarkEclipse23]

It would explain Goku Black Rose form which is pure god ki.

[@himanshugohil7660]

Awesome Video. Great and Entertaining Explanation.

[@devforfun5618]

what is funny about poppo abilities, most of them are from wukong in the journey to the west, regeneration, creating clones from hair, even the circlet that attract lightning is a reference to the circlet that the monk used to control wukong, on that note you didnt even mention the magic staff, which seems to be indestructable, the magic cloud, and the magic fan that was mentioned in the classic, also mutten Roshi is so old because he had a phoenix

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

The secret of magic energy may be that each energy is distinct in production. So, 'each' type of magic, has its own 'chi meta' if it were developed into a meta, of subversion and gaining. Subversion (solar flare, ki absorption), and gaining (blasts, and charging). So each 'vibe' of magic, is distinct. Just living creatures, are a type of magic entity also, hence why they can harness Ki which is actually 1 type of magic itself, but a weak magic.

[@TechnicalTyler]

It makes sense when you consider that the strongest opponents that Goku has had to fight lately or either extremely divine beings, or people who can literally warp reality.

[@CommanderButter]

can't forget about good o'l Plague and Terror with their magic gourd. Gotta love magic weapons

[@FrOlivares]

Dude you were so close with the namikians they're just from the demon realm!!

[@officiallytdawg]

😢 This is the first time I'm part of the first few viewers. I don't know about you, but that's a big achievement for me. ❤Love the Content, and want to be part of it as early as it appears.

[@ojpickle5923]

How do you know Zeno's erasure isn't a ki technique like hakai? His erasure was never given a name or description that I'm aware of

[@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838]

Cuz it’s not purple 👁️👄👁️

[@Nokturnt]

Maybe it’s Ultraviolet? Imperceivable to those who can’t see?

[@MercenaryTau]

I was thinking about God Ki awhile back and your description of Brahmin really hit the nail on the head; God Ki does not 'directly' interact with the physical plane. So for example, you're not lifting that boulder, but you're affecting the infinite space 'behind' it and the boulder is just being led along as a result. When your training for the past 40-50 years is geared towards getting stronger, performing those same feats of strength while exerting no more physical force than to move a feather would be exceedingly difficult. Like when Whis sent Goku and Vegeta to train in the God Ki realm; they thought it'd be the same as if they were under 400x Gravity but they couldn't move a finger until they realized that the 'opposite' rules applied.

[@Scuffedboros]

this video singlehandedly just made me rethink my entire thoughts of dragon ball..

[@NateTmi]

that would be really cool if they expand on magic in dragon ball dima & make it a type of magic that turns such a mass number of people young & gives motivation to learn magic & make key less useful

[@CaptainPrincess]

Popo would be able to make a nappa doll he has a moustache, and a hairy tail for buu and frieza I reckon maybe the hair is just a stand-in for "genetic material" so you could probably get the same effect with a piece of buu-gum or some blood

[@Emppu91]

What about magical items, artifacts, and foods that the Dragonball world has access to, most coming from Korin Tower; Senzu Beans, the Sacred Water, Flying Nimbus, The Power Pole...

[@PlanetLevelDB]

I have a future video planned for Magical Items :)

[@Nunyabutmunch]

Didnt the turtle slip up and say roshi had drank from the fountian of youth or something and that is why he doesnt age?

[@AntioneSelf]

The lack of a mention of the devil mite beam

[@joshuacrosby2484]

I am Hermetic in that i see the universe in Certain Laws. I have adopted many religious Under-Standings to gain wisdom of how this infinite form created a materialistic matrix to move through. Thus saying my first DMT trip had guided me through mandalas of colors not expressed in this dimension as they pierce through around you in and out the geometry unfolds the reality not seen by the lapsed senses of humanity. To gain Divine Wisdom to process such an experience has taken me 10 years to come to fruition. A small fragment pieced into my multitude of information. One such after experiencing the book of enoch, the emerald tablets of thoth, i grabbed ahold of the horns and witnessed the cosmic dancer of absolution the Diaghram of GOD as you could say Ohm Namah Shiva... Advaita Vedanta. To understand Evil and Good are breath out breath in. One seems intentionally life giving the other death but to move you must have these. Dualism cannot succeed in war but in understanding of movement. God was Void God created ALL God walked upon ALL. It is to say closing all senses their is void. But human senses only capable of a fragment of depiction of reality around them. The mind creates the rest to fill in a fake dream.

[@Darkregen9545]

Erasure is a divine technique using god Qi in a form of deletion of peoples existence on molecular level.

[@Ruffy611]

The one being not even once explored is Mr. Popo, I mean he can alway keep up with all the Character strength wise and makes fun of them when he trains them, it was never said how strong he really is or what the full extend of his Powers, Abilities and Magic is, he is not even once part of any Major event exept to train the Character which he always stomps, I wish they would explore him more

[@jacthatdude3995]

Gotta put on these damn glasses…🤓 “actually” gas’s constructs ability is of his own innate abilities when he was holding back against Goku and vegeta when he was going all out only then he started using the added bonuses of the “make me the strongest in the universe” wish

[@dankerbell]

a good chance to glaze the mafuba tbh, it's so cool

[@4Nulla]

The fact that the Devilmite beem doesnt even get a mention is a crime. By what we know, that technique WOULD kill Beerus, if it hit, that is.

[@dankerbell]

i don't think he counted beams as magic, which makes sense, otherwise the whole video would be kamehamehas and galick guns and masenkos, even if the devilmite beam is probably like the strongest beam ever since in one of the games (which isn't canon i know, but theoretically it would actually work like this), he defeats king cold and mecha frieza with it when trunks doesn't show up

[@4Nulla]

@@dankerbell checked, and you're right. It's not magic.

[@hopy921]

​@dankerbell The only requirement shown is that the target needs to have dark thoughts/malice/aggression and causes the victims heart to literally explode. By the definition of magic in the video this clearly fits the bill. I would say it's more comparable to the mafuba than Kamehameha or Galick gun

[@CarlosATrueG]

I just looked it up, Goku got hit with the beam twice, one was a weaker version of the attack, and then he got hit again with a stronger version that did absolutley nothing which I find very hilarious.

[@4Nulla]

@@CarlosATrueG Oh yeah it's absolutely hilarious.

[@newvegasadventures4173]

The devil might beam from og Dragonball is overpowered

[@Chaogod1233]

Hopefully magic will get a lot more expansion on it with Daima coming out later this year.

[@tbunny6305]

While not as strong I think transformation like what Puar and Oolong do are magic. I would say the same for fusion whether using earings or dance. And probably all psychic abilities like telepathy, telekinesis and clairvoyance because I don't think they use ki but maybe they should be classified in their own category .

[@PTrailblazer57]

the visual joke /demonstration using goku black and zamasu.. earned my like.

[@kyletaylor4312]

Bro.... They specifically talk about how the doll Mr. Popo animates has no chi because it is NOT ALIVE..... 😂

[@eduardoaguilar7361]

Could have also referenced, Cosmo when you mentioned, chakras, and the force.

[@StrawHatTruthy]

Really well made video! Great job 👏

[@johnsmiley4215]

Arguably, Nappa has hair in the form of his stache and buu can materialize hair.

[@bigzealot]

Cannot wait to see what Daima brings to the table

[@TheLittlestBark]

Great, thought provoking video. Loved it!

[@lntnchrs1]

Good job buddy, this one earned you a sub. Keep up the great work.👍👍👍

[@mickey2ky]

I never thought about this!!! dude!!! thanks for the content!! new sub

[@treestumpow]

So where’d he go ?

[@grantpowell4135]

Popo still gives me the hebe jebes. But man magic is something i never even noticed.

[@eplatamx2017]

Not to mention how op the Devilmite beam is

[@TheCassenator]

Did they ever classify Freiza and Gouldo’s psychic abilities as ki or magic based? I remember there being a distinction there. For that matter, Hit’s time stop is also a psychic ability right?

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

Seeing as Magic is capable of Creating something out of nothing it would make sense that it is also capable of doing the opposite, turning something into nothing.

[@PlanetLevelDB]

Great point

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

Magic isn't boundless. You can only wish for people back, if they have a soul to bring back and were not erased. In order to bring back someone who has been erased, you need to make a *clone* of them with a wish with magic- it will not be them. Unless they are not erased from time itself, then you can pull a past version of them, of a different timeline. But erasure might erase them from time itself as well.

[@brutalnobody5240]

That thing about are reality being perceived through senses is based. If you think about it we are just atoms vibrating at different speeds sticking and pushing apart.

[@projectmessiah]

Technology in Dragon Ball is pretty crazy too, there's everything from androids literally as strong as gods to time travel to a literal robot gag girl who can beat like 99% of the cast with the same effort it took her to fight general blue.

[@stefanogandino9192]

It's not that androids are stronger than gods, it's that they have infinite energy, thus never gets tired and can always fight at best. You either destroy them or they will win in the long run and in TOP you were forbidden to destroy them.

[@projectmessiah]

@@stefanogandino9192 Like even not counting Cell Max then whenever next Android are used as a threat again which they probably will at some point they'll definitely be god level.

[@stefanogandino9192]

@@projectmessiah sorry i was thinking about c17/18, you are indeed right about gammas

[@stefanogandino9192]

"so it is true what they say... that there are pieces of furniture stronger than mortals stronger than a god of destruction" Whis, probably

[@projectmessiah]

@@stefanogandino9192 Oh yeah lol. I blanked on them too so Androids are already there.

[@specialnewb9821]

Guarantee you have thought about it much more than Toribot or the Dragon Room. ED: Mafuba was created by Mutaito in a relatively short period time

[@Znae629]

What is that song in the intro? It’s very good.

[@mighty7579]

Dope video can't wait for the technology video

[@davidutullakatos637]

Ngl this really begs the question of what puts a limit to once doing a specific magic spell? Like what would stop someone like Buu from doing literal wishing magic

[@TheReZisTLust]

Trunks used the Fatuba on Zamasu??? Wow i really missed alot sleeping thru it

[@HelixJuice]

suprised transformation wasn't even mentioned

[@TheJadeFist]

Magic is basically controlling reality itself, so kinda makes sense why it can circumvent material feats of strength because that strength is part of the material reality.

[@larrylawless8760]

Goku brought a bird back to life in the coolers revenge movie the best scene in DBZ

[@chalo3427]

Dragon Ball lore is so freaking cool, nice video!

[@ravenouself4181]

Moror is lucky that he didn't mess with mr Popo's garden

[@Leo-iZ177]

What about Puar and oolongs shapshifting abilitys