Recycling PET bottles to 3D printing filament! Gimmick or innovation?
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how hard it would be to blend HDPE bottles with PLA filament to make a blend. I guess we'd need an injection-moulding-type screw?
@leshe4ka462 жыл бұрын
@CNC Kitchen , open "Brother" chanel He make it too
@letoxique2 жыл бұрын
"do you think i should invest into building my own recycling system?" Yes. Yes, absolutely! Looking at my stash of PET bottles i should really bring back to the supermarket more often, i would LOVE to have some kind of excuse to actually not need to do that anymore. "yes, i know, quite a huge pile of bottles, but i'm still collecting for a full spool of PET filament"
@liftsalot2 жыл бұрын
The amount of em' I generate make me feel obligated to make the machine.
@Cool-20702 жыл бұрын
Würde mich sehr interessieren zu sehen wie das geht und welche Schwierigkeiten dabei vielleicht entstehen könnten.
@alexvmw2 жыл бұрын
The print temperature needs to be increased. Then we can increase the printing speed. I usually use 280+ degrees. Blowing should be turned on closer to the maximum. Then there will be no crystallization. There will be better corners and overhangs. I have been printing with PET bottles for 3 years. Started out for fun but found it to be one of the best filaments to print.
@kvoistinov2 жыл бұрын
а нагреаательный блок стандартный или биметаллический или титановый ?
@alexvmw2 жыл бұрын
@@kvoistinov Тефлоновый быстро деградирует, за несколько килограмм пластика. Лучше титан или биметалл.
@richardd54772 жыл бұрын
How do you combine the filament for larger rolls?
@baddoer2 жыл бұрын
Вулкан лучше или нет? На V6 зажимает частенько, быстрее 40 не получается печатать
@Timsturbs2 жыл бұрын
я слышал бутылочный пластик воду набирает и сушить надо чтоб не пенился, удивлен что он так хорошо печатает
@fennoqueven2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you should build or buy one of the filament extrusion machines - would be cool to see your methodical and scientific approach to testing!
@theflyingnon85462 жыл бұрын
he has one, he probably doesnt want to take the time to grind a whole bunch of bottles up
@niggo72242 жыл бұрын
@@theflyingnon8546 its 25ct for a bottle in germany
@KartoshkaAndMelassa2 жыл бұрын
This system is called PetPull in the original. For some reason, the author does not talk about this in the video.
I live in Brazil, and I can easily say it's an amazing idea. Here, a kg of PETG filament costs around 24 euros, but minimum wage here is around 180 euros. On the other hand, you can get a KG of PET bottles in any recycling center here for around 50 cents (euro). So it's easy to see how it might be very worthy here, even considering the time it would take to clean and feed the "pultruder". I might give it a try sometime, the results you got were pretty great, and clearly more than enough to do some decorative parts!
@boemioofworld2 жыл бұрын
penso o mesmo, você sabe de alguém que construiu a máquina do jrt3d? se você fizer algo fala aí
@volundrfrey8962 жыл бұрын
You can buy pet bottles at a recycling centre? I mean it make sense it's just that if you tried it where I live they would think you escaped the insane asylum.
@MrEdrftgyuji2 жыл бұрын
@@volundrfrey896 Sadly the case in a lot of countries. They have more security at my local recycling centre than they do on military bases. I guess they don't want people to interfere with the government paying for the waste to be shipped off to China to be dumped in the sea.
@finndemoncat9379 Жыл бұрын
@@volundrfrey896 Yes, never tried myself, but the recycling potential its amazing!
@volundrfrey896 Жыл бұрын
@@finndemoncat9379 @Corn Pop Where I live the charge back for recycling a 2 litre bottle is $0.2. So that's what a bottle is "worth" in other words, it's cheaper just to buy plastic. I guess it's both good and bad, the good thing is that nearly all bottles get recycled, the bad is that no one bothers finding better ways to recycle.
@TonyBullard2 жыл бұрын
1. Wow, $.25 deposit for plastic bottles, that's amazing. (Impressed American) 2. I just LOVE the idea of taking trash and making it useful again. All feasibility aside, I think half the reasoning is just the joy of knowing you've made something out of what others throw away (or recycle)
@Krobar2 жыл бұрын
In Michigan it's been $0.10 for many years. If it would have kept pace with inflation, it would also be $0.25 a bottle today.
@keithyinger33262 жыл бұрын
I'm in Washington and we don't have any deposit here. Every can and bottle we buy though in the stores has all of the refunds listed on it for the different states. You could literally walk down the street and pick up printing material. As well as casting material in the form of aluminum cans. Don't get the wrong idea, our streets aren't just littered with garbage. I live in kind of a rural area, so walking down the side roads, you find where people have thrown their cans and bottles out their car windows as they drive.
@TheMaidenOnes2 жыл бұрын
In Sweden there is a 0.2ish $ deposit, many homeless people are recycling to gain some income. There are also donation options on the recycling machine so you can donate the deposit directly.
@jameslmorehead2 жыл бұрын
In America, it costs more to make a bottle out of recycled material than it does to make from new stock. More than 80% of the bottles sent in for recycling are rejected and sent to the landfill.
@vasiliynkudryavtsev2 жыл бұрын
@@jameslmorehead That is very strange. PET plastic consists of only carbon and hidrogen atoms (unlike PVC or ABS), thus it can be combusted without making any poisonous gases, just like burning wood, emitting only CO2 and H2O. Why would they bury the fuel=money into landfill?
@jayliu4962 жыл бұрын
Instead of splicing the filament, you should splice the strips of the bottles before they are pull-struded. I think you could cut the ends of two strips at a diagonal and weld them together with a soldering iron or something else.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@alexvmw2 жыл бұрын
welding tape is more difficult than a bar. The tape deforms under heating, becomes brittle due to crystallization. And the rod is welded quite simply. Machines for this have already been developed, including semi-automatic ones, as in "mosaic"
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE2 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen Or maybe using a simple Clothes Iron and maybe some Wax Paper? Lay the two strips and iron them together momentarily. Which if that works, then a person can probably make a simple and quick process to integrate right into the Puller, which has maybe two TECs strapped to two heatsinks mounted to a simple door hinge (a lever-arm attached to the upper heatsink as well). When your one bottom has run out, quickly add the next one, get the initial cut, place it between the TECs and press down to "iron" the two bottle ends. Admittedly, that seamless process probably wouldn't work out well (as in, take too long). However, the TEC "iron" might still be enough, and you'd only need to pre-cut bottles and fuse the ends together. Then let all the fused together bottle segments run through, for a very long filament. Possible Problem: The pre-cut bottles would likely end up getting snagged on each other and result in a jammed system, so that in turn may require pre-spooling the sliced bottles onto a spindle :\ === TEC - Thermal Electric Cooler, aka Peltier.
@baddoer2 жыл бұрын
it wont work. Pet strip warps under heat as soon you touch it with soldering iron
@evlsc4002 жыл бұрын
@@baddoer packing strips already figured this out, but I'm sure 1,000+ people have already figured out a solution.
@Dr3DPrint2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend here in Brasil that is working in a crazy machine to cut the PET bottles in little pieces that can be melted in new filament. His method makes easy to use including the bottom and the mouth of all the bottles. And when you want to come to Rio, I’ll be waiting you!
@Charlie-id4tv2 ай бұрын
Any updates?
2 жыл бұрын
ok but hear me out... what about extruding 3mm instead of 1.75 and then using that to extrude 1.75? yeah you spend much more energy, but it should result in much better consistency on final filament and if you roughly weld 3mm material, reextrusion to 1.75 should smooth those spots, resulting in consistent results anyone with time to try this theory?
@randomanimator13362 жыл бұрын
i don't have one, but i feel it might be slightly more consistent, but will still have that hole thing bc of laminar flow with nozzles. You could probably utilize this to make "coextrusion" possible, to have different cores, by layering the ribbons with different colors or materials.
@valian89852 жыл бұрын
well heating and cooling plastics is not always good depending on temperature, but still a neat idea !
@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs2 жыл бұрын
Any time You remelt plastic it degrade in quality
@Theironbodysensei2 жыл бұрын
Yes I been made the business. Blacksmith Renewables llc. I’m working it…I have connected businesses to compliment it.
@Pixel-Cheese-Cake2 жыл бұрын
Worth testing
@TheDarkestPhoenix2 жыл бұрын
That's actually super cool. I was expecting printing would be a lot more difficult, but that doesn't look too bad honestly. Also extruding straight into the printer looks hilariously cool. I'm all for if you decide to make one of these yourself, but yeah, that really depends on whether you think it's a worthwhile investment.
@JohnMeacham2 жыл бұрын
Brothers video on printing directly with audio tape and ending up with magnetic prints was pretty cool. It's available already spooled on reels.
@tride.design2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant job Stefan, turning a plastic waste into useful products might give a whole new perspective for people and businesses in developing nations. Hope to see more about this from you soon.
@vincent36732 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you build your own version and do further testing!
@BRUXXUS2 жыл бұрын
First saw this in a mr3dp video a few months ago, and it fascinated me! These prints performed much better mechanically than I expected. I’d love to see more testing on this. 🙂
@matthewweinberger70232 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing, I literally just finished designing and building my own
@JATMN2 жыл бұрын
"White?!?" LOL!! Great content as always, would be interested in seeing you dive deeper into this. Recycling is actually a real issue in parts of the USA where many people simply just throw these bottles out with the waste trash even in areas where deposits are paid you only get a fraction of the deposit back when you turn them in most of the time.
@rcmaniac252 жыл бұрын
I've seen these but never got around to looking at how it worked. Awesome to see an explainer. Also, that was probably one of the best sponsor/ad integrations I've seen in a long time.
@eulachonfish2 жыл бұрын
This is great to see a recycling process that actually works at a small scale and produces a product that isn't just acceptable but actually has good properties. Here in Canada it definitely makes more sense to return the bottles and use the deposit money to buy filament, as you mentioned, but I would love to see you investigate this further as well. Personally I won't be building one since I only drink water, coffee and beer, none of which come in PET bottles!
@daliasprints9798 Жыл бұрын
At best market rates, 10g of PET filament is 35¢, and you can get a lot more than 10g from most bottles. Some bottled goods are so cheap that, once you figure in value of filament, you're getting the goods contained within for free or even less.
@klave85112 жыл бұрын
I watched Nero 3Ds interview “Pellets ti Filament” video about how a manufacturer makes filament and got a whole new level of appreciation for how much work goes into making consistent quality products. It’s way more than just extruding molten pellets. That being said, this was a great video and excellent work, thanks! When you look into it more I suggest you find out what manufacturers are doing that you might need to include in your assessment.
@Xailow2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious on how well the same bottles would do chopped up and extruded like pellets. Might be a decent way around the 20g/bottle you get if you can throw in multiple bottles
@peterzingler62212 жыл бұрын
Not worth it in Germany at least. A bottle empty is worth 25cents..
@LanceThumping2 жыл бұрын
Agreed and for things like 2L bottles in the US, it's trivial to get perfect sheets of plastic that would easily shred in a crosscut paper shredder for small and evenly sized particles.
@TheVideoGuardian2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with pellet extrusion is that PET will crystalize at high temps. Once crystalized it's harder to melt and becomes much more brittle. Of course, I could be wrong, so I'd love to see it tested. It would be nice if I could just ask some hipsters for their polar seltzer bottles and turn that into filament, but I don't want to have to splice hundreds of 20g segments by hand...
@1987jaffa2 жыл бұрын
Turning a bottle into pellets also makes the thicker threaded part usefull (if you can shred it), so you'd squezze even more grams of PET out of each bottle.
@indoorkite6512 жыл бұрын
@@1987jaffa I'm sure even the caps could be used to some degree.
@tvathome5622 жыл бұрын
Build one please! Glad to hear you found Brother's channel (most of his videos do have subtlites in English), he prints with different plastics he finds discarded, from vinyl records to car brake light plastic, or random Soviet left overs... Looks like a harse place to live, but the level of ingenuity is excellent!
@t_c52662 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but notice at 6:26 the uneven heat distribution in the coupons. I would believe the middle ones staying warmer longer could lead to different annealing properties in their strength tests. I wonder if you'd get more consistent results if they were printed standing further apart from each other. Or if you could test if this has any measurable effect on the strength of the samples.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Good observation. The inner ones are more isolated and hence stay longer warm. There is a crystallization limit, that the parts reach pretty quickly so my guess is that there shouldn't be a huge difference. Still a good point to consider in the future.
@thefirstsalty3055 Жыл бұрын
stuff like this can be viable in either countries where filament is expensive and plastic bottles are readily available (america) or you live in a remote location and have a waste issue (america)
@rafaelrosa95432 жыл бұрын
In the past 2 years I've been trying, modding and improving my own recycling bottle filament machine. I'm only seen your video now. My filament is now 100% massive, a pure monofilament made of PET bottle with a simple 3D printer extruder as pulling system. I'm quite happy with the results and with the precision of the resulting filament. Thanks to it I'm now building a pellet extruder, so I can recycle the rest of the bottle and caps. Perhaps I make a video soon. Thanks for your amazing work and hope you're having a good time.
@tankprohp2 жыл бұрын
I think this is incredibly interesting for Mass recycling setup as long as you can find a way to auto feed the bottles in, plus the green color looks so good
@startedtech2 жыл бұрын
Those flat printed tensile test samples are the most transparent 3D prints I've ever seen! I'd love to see how clear it would be if it got polished/sanded smooth.
@laurobuffi972 жыл бұрын
wow, I am building one of these machine myself and after watching this video I am even more motivated!! Thank you I was really curious to see the propreties of pet filament (and they are great). You should definetely buy or maybe even make one. For a better joining metod I had an idea: you could join the pet strip before you let it go through the extruder so it is much easyer. ( I didn't know if it would work)
@xenontesla1222 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting if you built one of those extruders. I'd imagine there's a lot to learn! I didn't even know the recycled filament wasn't a perfect circle.
@andrewchudyk85182 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more of your scientific approach to testing the feasibility and practicality of printing using old PET bottles. So yes, please build a machine and do some more testing!
@deandavies14622 жыл бұрын
this is one thing im passionate about and would love to used my own recycled materials, I already try and buy recycled materials, but you do seem to pay a premium for it. producing my own would be great. please look into this further. great work
@MrClosetmonkey20112 жыл бұрын
Thanks for placing your sponsor on the end of the video so we dont need to skip it !
@UmmonTheLight2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the way the filament gets folded around the middle gave me an interesting idea. It shouldn't be too hard to modify the pull-truder and add a conductive wire at the midle of the strip so the plastic is folded around it. Might be a good way to get printable circuits. But other than that I think the better filament-makers are the ones using plastic granules. Because if the intent is recycling plastic bottles you'll have a lot of them crushed flat, you'll have to peel off the labels and clean any residue on them. And you'll also have uneven thickness on many bottles. I think the most sensible approach is to have something that extrudes from small plastic scraps so you can shred the bottles and run them through an automatic cleaning process.
@xcruell2 жыл бұрын
Great idea if you'd like to make your own wires. But the printable circuits part isn't that easy, since you would need to slice the wire at the hotend everytime.
@abelgarcia68902 жыл бұрын
Yes!! You should definitely make both of this machines. I'd like to see how you make the pulltrusion filament maker, and the direct extrusion printer.
@UpcycleElectronics2 жыл бұрын
I definitely want to try this at some point in the near future. I am curious to try pulling multiple stripes using multiple bottles and trying to combine them into one filament to extend the useful length of material. My main hesitation holding me back still is my lack of knowledge on polymer chemistry. Heck, I've even been watching some opencourseware classes from MIT to (re)build my solid state chemistry understanding, and looking for content about the polymerization process in practice. I think the main question I want to know is what polymer properties can only be set when combining monomers in fluid/gaseous form versus what can be mixed and tuned through extrusion mixing techniques after the polymer has been pelletized? I spent awhile painting cars, working with composites, and working for an asphalt company for awhile. In my empirical experience, the key to most plastics I have worked with and asphalt recycling/production is the solvent that is most effective for the respective material. For instance, mixing diesel fuel with the black tar in asphalt grindings makes the stuff pliable and recyclable. It's also the only solvent capable of cleaning off the fresh tar if it gets spilled. There are also lots of tricks with automotive paints and composites when the right solvent is used. There are an enormous range of solvent "temperatures" and additives sold to control things like paint flash times and orange peel textures of clear coat finishes. For instance, it is possible to repair only part of a panel on a car, and under the right circumstances, only clear coat part of the panel where the repair was made. The clear coat would normally look like crap if it were left like this, but if the right solvent is used in a spray gun with the right settings, it is possible to spray the solvent over the transition between the new and old clear coat and it will cause the two layers to bond chemically "burning in" the transition and making it invisible. So what solvents can modify recycled PET during processes accessible to the average person? Thanks for the upload. -Jake
@eggstraordinair2 жыл бұрын
This is what I've been thinking about ever since I learned about 3d printers, I'm glad it's finally taking on
@marsgizmo2 жыл бұрын
this is pretty impressive 👏😎
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
I'll hook you up with some materials if I ever build a machine.
@marsgizmo2 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen sounds great! 😎
@dingledurper51692 жыл бұрын
I love all your videos about making your own filament, so please investigate this further!
@ВикторПрошин-ж2е2 жыл бұрын
This is Petpull!
@krot.neskladny61002 жыл бұрын
Он
@killymxi2 жыл бұрын
Printing directly with PET strips is actually a great idea! It deserves further exploration by more makers.
@krot.neskladny61002 жыл бұрын
This is the PetPull!!!
@hughatkins2 жыл бұрын
It's really nice to see that you can re-use items that are everywhere. Your video is awesome, in that you explore with such detail that is very specific and you explain it so well! Thanks for the video and I'd really like to see you look at making your own extrusion machine. I think it will give many the confidence to recycle (me included).
@eelcohoogendoorn80442 жыл бұрын
The practicality of it would depend on a reliable way of splicing these together id say. I wonder if spot-welding two strips together and ramming them through the pulltruder would 'just work'. If the pulling is powerful enough... I think so? though youd probably get a temporary overextrusion... hmmm... combined with the effective material cost, I guess lacking in practicality. But yeah it comes out surprisingly well.
@keithyinger33262 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of maybe cutting the ends of the strips thinner, and maybe twisting them together somehow before you shove them through the pulltruder so they would get sort of melted and twisted together. In my mind that seems like it would make a fairly strong connection point if it goes through the pulltruder ok.
@GustavoMuradFerreira2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Brazil for choosing our country's VPN at the end of the video.
@MVBasov2 жыл бұрын
The idea looks very similar to PETPull. Thanks for attempt to testing recycled PET properties.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of PETPull. Also a very nice machine.
@MVBasov2 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen How much material is needed to perform correct tests of PET (exclude crystallization, for example)? At this time I have ~100 meters or 290 grams if PET filament produced from the same type of bottles. I will be glad to provide it for you for tests. If more material need I need some time to find the same bottles and produce filament from it.
@posbela2 жыл бұрын
petpull is a original this pullstruder guy just steal a idea
@gorjosfam2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always outstanding! I think you touched on many positives with this idea. The only trick left is to make the machine that joins the tapes together, giving you a spool of tape.
@mikkavin2 жыл бұрын
This is PetPull!
@krot.neskladny61002 жыл бұрын
Точно. Он.
@Brandon-zo9ly2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely build one and do more testing. I worked with refugees at a makerspace in Greece, and this is exactly the kind of thing they would find very useful.
@ArneSchwarck2 жыл бұрын
PET is amazing to recycle. Really worth it but I don't with the deposit on PET bottles in Germany that it would be worth it
@Jakob3xD2 жыл бұрын
When you live close to the boreder (Danmark, poland, Czech) you could got it there.
@jayphone12 жыл бұрын
There are still PET bottles in Germany without deposit.
@ArneSchwarck2 жыл бұрын
@@jayphone1 there is a good reason why they don't have deposit. The acidic drinks change the chemical nature of the pet.
@jayphone12 жыл бұрын
@@ArneSchwarck Thanks. I didn't know this. I thought there is nothing more acidic to drink than Coca-Cola. I have seen a PET milk drink bottle today without deposit.
@ArneSchwarck2 жыл бұрын
@@jayphone1 I regularly use my deposit bottles to fetch milk from the milk station and after that it is clearly chemically bonded to the pet. Can't get out transparent again with standard detergents
@mikedtubey2 жыл бұрын
Love to see you build this and give a detailed assessment of the technology
@playmaka20072 жыл бұрын
Great video! Make the recycle machine and print bottles, we'd love to see it.
@theengineerguy87262 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this! Thank you so much for covering this!
@jayphone12 жыл бұрын
25 €-Cents/20g --> 12.50 € /kg Filament in Germany. : ) Edit: Ahaha, okay, haven't been watching to the point, where Stefan mentioned it in the video, when I wrote it. : )
@MetalheadAndNerd2 жыл бұрын
Current price for Sunlu PETG in Germany: 16.65€/kg, price for the cheapest white label PETG that is claimed to be made by Sunlu: 12.02€/kg
@cyrild.32052 жыл бұрын
Yes ! It will be very interesting to see you make this project due to your skills in engineering AND teaching . I beg you !
@NaimioN10002 жыл бұрын
This is PetPull!!!!
@ahaveland2 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating. Yes, do get one! Have to find a way of making longer filaments - big melting hopper to do 50 bottles at once and pull out of the bottom? Recycling failed prints is something I'd really like to be able to do - I keep them in separate bins for the day I'll be able to reuse them, instead of throwing away.
@eformance2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a similar test using HDPE/LDPE recycled milk jugs.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that stuff seems to be a huge pain to print!
@rurone Жыл бұрын
I loved your methodical and scientific examination!
@i-wishbetter-future89632 жыл бұрын
Пришёл с канала Brother. Передаю привет тем, кто собирается улучшить мир)
@FourDigitedMenace2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting the advertisement at the end rather than annoyingly at the any other part of the video! Also, you released this basically just in time to answer my friend's question about recycling bottles in to filaments so I didn't have to lol
@4LDIY2 жыл бұрын
PetPull
@vishal01mehra2 жыл бұрын
A device to fuse two or more small filament rolls into a big one would be a game changing and gravitate people more than anything else since we'll be able to print big parts.
@colinfielder66952 жыл бұрын
You should absolutely build one. Love this video
@Megabobster2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an investigation of similarly readily available "trash" plastics like HDPE and LDPE.
@alexvmw2 жыл бұрын
Large shrinkage factor. Like polypropylene. You will need an active thermal camera.
@sebastiansombra2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Definitely. Looking forward for that!
@zneipas29172 жыл бұрын
Это PetPull.😉
@mikeday57762 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely! And perhaps ask for designs for a simple linking system, I’m sure someone will have a great idea 💡
@jan_harald2 жыл бұрын
this seems really nice, since you can also melt the PET bottles down in a normal oven, or such, which basically lets you both mold, AND 3d print, purely from discarded plastics, and if you have one of those fancy melty machines that can re-melt old 3d prints into filament, you could probably mix them up, either with different colors, or even different materials, e.g. PETG, which could be a mess, but could also be quite an improvement
@ethansdad3d2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to understand. You said PET crystallizes when it’s too hot for too long but you want to try with higher temperature and less cooling to see if it improves. I think you’ve covered the topic well enough, so don’t build the machine unless that’s what your heart wants. 😉
@BRUXXUS2 жыл бұрын
I think in some applications crystallization is a desired effect.
@ivanpruss37622 жыл бұрын
Higher temperature is mentioned in context of improving layer adhesion. Also crystallization is actually good for the strength, rigidity and high temperature performance. Clogs in hotend as far as I understand occur because "crystallized" polymer needs higher temperature for melting - so higher nozzle temperature (at least when starting from cold) can also help.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Higher temperatures and less cooling might be an option for better layer adhesion but might cause even MORE crystallization because the material stays hot longer. For less crystallization I'd need lower temps and more cooling.
@ivanpruss37622 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen I tried to say, that you need higher temperatures to melt polymer that could be crystallized in hotend between prints. As for staying hot longer during print - time spent in hotend is more or less function of printing speed (and usually you can print a bit faster at a bit higher temps). Of course it will stay hot longer after it came out of nozzle - but at this point, i think, crystallization may even be desirable, giving more strength to the printed part (I think you heard about post-print annealing of printed PEEK parts during which polymer crystallizes to a some degree, turns opaque and becomes much stronger)
@DavidCousins Жыл бұрын
Yes, is love it too see your version of a recycling pet machine.
@ServerXP2 жыл бұрын
PETPull однако.:))
@sevilnatas2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please. Would love to see a build and test of one of these machines.
@АлексейПанов-с1т2 жыл бұрын
Так это же PETPull. И мне кажется, что он был создан раньше чем PETBOT, который вы показали в видео.
@J.R.jr-pc7bo2 жыл бұрын
I would love one of these machines. I'm in the states and use to live in NY. In NY there is a $.05 deposit on soda and water bottles. I now live in Texas and they don't do any deposits or any big recycling here. Most people just put the bottles in the trash. It would be awesome to collect from my family and in-laws to make filament! I definitely will be doing more research to make one!
@f.d.66672 жыл бұрын
Awesome video (as usual). Actually, transforming empty beverage bottles directly into stuff I can use in my workshop right away (wall plugs, washers, spacers, wedges, hinges etc.) makes way more sense to me than slapping a recycling tax on one-time-use containers. Thank god, I live right at the border (of Germany) so I can source my beverages from our smarter Neighbors and don't have to waste money on the ridiculous "Trittin Tax" ;-)
@eugene3d8752 жыл бұрын
Brother is an awesome channel where he recycles all kinds of plastics, ranging from bottles to vhs tapes. Pro Tip: use close captioning. He did translate captions to English
@ИльяСмирнов-щ7ж2 жыл бұрын
PETPull 0$!!!
@mateopiper35802 жыл бұрын
Absolutely you should investigate this further. Recycling filament is an interesting topic!
@Александр-ь5ш7м2 жыл бұрын
Не твоя идея это PetPull !
@53Ericd2 жыл бұрын
Yes - Yes - Yes! Please build one. Great video and I have a lot of interest. Thanks for the video. 👍
@odw322 жыл бұрын
Here in NL we have wheelie bins and underground street containers specifically for household plastic collection. PET is often brought back to the store for the deposit, but LDPE, HDPE, PP, PS and PC are pre-sorted, post-sorted & recycled through municipal services. They are often struggling to find new purposes for these plastics though. For a while now I've been considering to get a slightly more industrial shredder/extruder for our makerspace, and experiment with creating various filaments in bulk, possibly providing spools for free to organizations/individuals who can't afford to buy the more premium brands. Most household plastics can at the very least be used for quick prototyping prints.
@bkucenski2 жыл бұрын
Low quality plastic filament could be a good business model to recycle plastic that would otherwise go to the dump. For an individual who tries not to consume too many plastic bottles, it's not very feasible but it might be an opportunity for someone to start a business out of a garage that has the time to go collect bottles and come up with a good way to take a random assortment of plastic and turn it into something that can be extruded. It may even be something where low quality plastic is turned into sheets and on to rolls by one machine that can then be used on a second machine to cut it into strips and extruded. If strips need to be 1" wide for example, then a 12" roll could be cut into 12 1" strips and run into 12 extruders at once.
@powil4ss2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please. Continue your research on this topic.
@danijel1242 жыл бұрын
Stefan I noticed that some of the parts have fine strands coming out of them. The best solution to fix that is to quickly pass over with a small butane lighter torch and the prints look superb. Ive been using this technique for a few years now and it works best :)
@eulachonfish2 жыл бұрын
I think he intentionally doesn't do any post-processing so we can see exactly what the output of the printer is. That is indeed a good solution for stringing though and I use it as well!
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
My intension was to show you how the prints look "as printed" without any rework.
@danijel1242 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen Stefan thanks for the reply. Now that I have you here I would like to ask you would it be possible for you to try some composite prints? Like print with two materials like flexible filament and hard material like petg.... For example make a shoe with rubber sole and top from petg... Is that possible? Please answer :)
@theswime9452 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm very new to the idea of 3D printing and found this really helpful. Cheers.
@RC-fp1tl2 жыл бұрын
I would buy recycled PET filament in a heartbeat. Looks great for outdoor prints!
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
There is a Czech company that sells recycled PET filament: re-pet3d.com
@alexanderolson49902 жыл бұрын
Honestly what i PERSONALLY would use something like this material for is detail pieces for something you want to shine light through
@802Garage2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, awesome test! Agree with your conclusions. Some really cool prints.
@Retro_Care2 жыл бұрын
because of the bottles we use in the Netherlands are returnable for money its actually more expensive than buying 1KG filament but i love the idea of recycled plastic. very nice video, thank you. i always was interested in this concept
@mohammedyasser31899 ай бұрын
yes please, we need to see your machine and do more testing and improving about this method
@GreatJoe2 жыл бұрын
Icelander here, gotta clear up something about bottle deposits: My cousins in Scandinavia have a vastly decentralised bottle collection system, where grocery stores will have their own automated collection machines that will give store credit. It's effectively a closed loop, if you're shopping local. Iceland meanwhile has a much more centralised system where there's very few, dedicated collection centers that will do direct transfers to your credit card or bank account. Last I checked Reykjavík, a city of 250k people has just one deposit center. That said there are also more localised dumping tank clusters, where beside a metal recycling tank there's a bottle donation tank to the child scout troops, who then use the deposit to pay for their operations and support the search and rescue people. I've lived both in Iceland and Sweden and I'm much more fond of their system, especially when stuff like Scouts and S&R would function a lot more efficiently if they could run on 100% government subsidies instead of wasting time sorting through bottles.
@memejeff2 жыл бұрын
here in norway we also have a good bottle system but it seems better if I do it myself cause it saves the long garbage truck rides etc. Awesome video as always!
@lucasvignolireis81812 жыл бұрын
I really be interested to seeing more of it, and exploration of use cases!!!
@rcpowres2 жыл бұрын
Great! Show us more of this topic! Thanks und schönen Tag!
@jonnycash21412 жыл бұрын
This really cool, I might do this over the summer
@cathyomalley27722 жыл бұрын
I will be building one, I think it's a great idea. You should build one too. Because your tests are great and helpful.
@yankitbansal2 жыл бұрын
Yes you should create one of those, bottles to filaments machine and show us testings every time you do.
@Adherences2 жыл бұрын
Please build one ! It look fantastic!
@jadamcak2 жыл бұрын
@10:03 In Slovakia we have 0,15€/bottle, started from 1.1.2022, but we dont have new bottles yet, so old bottles are free. And YES, please build filament machine 😉
@Verlisify2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool
@WizzardTelevision Жыл бұрын
It's got its pros n cons, but it's quite pleasant to see we can use what many just see as waste products being re used for projects, crafts n parts!
@matteocapulli44442 жыл бұрын
Hi stephan, tks for all ur contents. U are a MASTER and I would love to see you build your own version and do further testing! Great job as allways!!