How Strong Is Saitama?

[@IngloriousBastard616]

Anyone else here from TikTok?

[@officialdivine..]

W mans

[@Valkager]

@@officialdivine.. I’m here from discord

[@officialdivine..]

@@Valkager W

[@glorxies]

Yessir

[@Tom-yj8lc]

Nah cuz I’m subscribed😤

[@ChanneledBrick]

You forgot to mention that throughout the whole fight with Cosmic Garou Saitama only uses one arm as he holds Genos’ core in his left hand the entire time.

[@sidice123]

And not only that bro destroyed Jupiter with a sneeze and destroyed the moon with one hand, created a hole in the galaxy

[@mangoman2615]

Bro, Saitama is a David Goggins ripoff. Imagine David goggins in one punch man univese!

[@cutetigger3629]

@@sidice123you do realize garou and Saitama collided punches right? Even then that one hand argument is false because you don’t need two hands to punch someone at full power.

[@roosterbars]

@@cutetigger3629 Exactly. It's called "One punch man" and not "Martial arts man" :) Don't need two hands for one punch :3

[@cutetigger3629]

@@roosterbars exactly my point.

[@xKOSATx]

Regardless of if Saitama can beat god, the editing in this video is straight up god-tier

[@officialdivine..]

🤝

[@Majiins]

He can because the so called "God" isn't even god "GOD" is probably a cosmic entity that has very overpowered abilities

[@Deathward8195]

@@Majiins Would be cool if they added the Terra 2 storyline in the actual story. But I remember somewhere I saw an image of Murata saying that his version of God would absolutely CLAP the one in Terra 2. Can't find it anymore tho lol. It was like a year ago or something.

[@Ithurts_to_breathe]

He ain’t beating god

[@lingho5956]

@@Majiins This "God" they mentioned is the cosmic entity with overpowered abilities...

[@theworldsrebirth808]

Also Remember, Saitama is quoted as "Not trying to kill" Garo, just beat him up. By his own admission, he was still holding back, as he statea to Genos in a later chapter: The "Serious" punch isnt anymore serious than his normal punches, its just a name.

[@blackhasu7871]

I mean you can still try to beat the shit out of someone while hitting with your full power without trying to kill them. Clearly that’s what Saitama was doing. He wasn’t holding back, but he wasn’t going to kill Garuo either

[@squify7226]

the one punch mans rules is saitama is infinitely powerful and his power grows exponentially so my guess is saitama has reached the power higher than cosmic garou and that was his full power until his exponential power multiplied quickly @@blackhasu7871

[@markanthony1004]

@@blackhasu7871He literally killed him. There was never a true fight between them. He wasn’t using his full strength at all. There’s a high chance that at no point did Saitama truly go all out. Hell it’s safe to say he likely felt of pain during the fight

[@xfrianimations1354]

@@blackhasu7871 the same doesn't really apply to Siatama. We can hit people with our full force and not kill somebody, but when when Siatama uses his full force, we know hw can ATLEAST kill galaxies. He doesn't know how durable Garou is, so it's still safe to say he was holding back a crap ton so he didnt kill him.

[@lequirky8010]

​​@@markanthony1004Garou did actually copy Saitama's strenght but he kept getting stronger and if you're fighting your self then that fight should last longer than 30 seconds and Saitama was growing around 6 times his original strength per second (would be my guess) and that just means that saitama can grow faster but he was going full power at first and after that he started playing with Garou Saitama and garou had too much durability and that's why they couldn't hurt each other at first and that's why I think it's per second in human time and if someone who's fast can scratch Saitama then it's over since they'll kill him before he can even grow in 1 second (human time) since in his fight with garou they both couldnt hurt each other and garou copied Saitama's strenght and durability then that means if someones 10 times stronger than Saitama then they can beat him

[@QPoily]

I love OPM's power scaling. It feels so simplistic and 'grounded' yet so overwhelmingly powerful and epic.

[@Qbesent]

Yet more than half of the OPM fanbase don't know how to powerscale 😂

[@Supreme_Court.]

@@Qbesent They don't usually need to use a bunch of coping mechanisms like arguments about dimensionality, "attack potency > destruction", or "ki control" because the power and speed of the characters is shown plainly without needing a bunch of fan interpretation and guidebook scrounging.

[@Qbesent]

@Supreme_Court. guidebooks are official sources by the author, statements and feats shown in the show are official sources aswell, any statements made by the author or colleagues that the author approves is considered fact for that specific fiction.

[@Supreme_Court.]

​@@Qbesent Guidebooks not written by the author which he approved only because he can't remember most things that happen in his series. Using them for reference to plotlines or power levels or for fun facts is one thing. Cherry picking statements about cosmology which are contradicted by feats and statements in the material itself and using them to upscale the entire verse and everyone in it is a whole different deal. And it's not even always the actual guidebooks, nothing is safe from board game manuals to promo pamphlet blurbs to tweets. And yes I know what you're implying by "statements from colleagues". Tweets that contradict the material aren't any more valid than guidebook statements that do. Especially when they're tweets by someone who explicitly says that he's not an authority and asks people to leave him alone. Fans bombarded Koyama for months trying to get any statements they could milk, when half the time he didn't even realize people were asking about Dragon Ball and he thought they wanted to know his beliefs about the actual universe and afterlife. No one that uses Koyama tweets to scale can be taken seriously.

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

​@@Supreme_Court.Stay hot and bothered about the facts

[@baldroinnsson783]

Garou gain all that power just by touching gods hand, he didnt even accept the deal, thats just fucking insane.

[@sheep4272]

I think the multiplier with god's power is based off of the base form of the recipient kind of like a super Saiyan transformation because homeless emperor did take the deal with god and correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that Garou was stronger than homeless emperor and my guess is because he was just a regular homeless man that took the deal when garou was already overpowered enough to fight an S class hero

[@dadyadzana8902]

@@sheep4272 Yes. It's like a multiplier. Homeless Emperor was just a plain human. When he gets God's power, he became threat level dragon but still with the durability as a normal human.

[@fbi2522]

God has many ways of giving power, homeless emperor and garou had different ways of getting power. God gave garou his hand, and homeless emperor just had some power but in it, for god and garou it was more of power straight up coming from the source

[@Nae_ex]

It is implied that God actually was influencing him because, even if it was a slap, he touched his hand

[@CarsonManikham]

i love this man, his voice, him speaking fax, his way of making everything he says entertaining. its just so nice

[@officialdivine..]

i appreciate it brob

[@officialdivine..]

bro*

[@fw_rhetorical]

@@officialdivine..brob lol

[@lenatunji]

Nah, I knew he would meat ride Saitama. Saitama isn’t no multi galaxy level. He doesn’t even know physics.

[@utakell_booga5590]

@@lenatunji na

[@MrTzatziki115]

Saitama once said to king he doesnt need the serious series because he thought it was just the same as a normal punch

[@BubblyBlue1041]

For once in eternity, this turned out to be the most intresting documentary I've ever heard

[@itsKenzii]

Greatest feat is zero punch. After continuously growing stronger on a long fight he can just travel back in time and defeat his opponent in one punch. Without his opponent realising he has been defeated. And it cannot be avoided

[@chromos5268]

He can't do that anymore he forgot how

[@itsKenzii]

@@chromos5268 I'm pretty sure he will remember how to do it. After he beat God.

[@megadubstepxd9462]

​@@chromos5268yeah because his mind fused with his past mind causing amnesia, who know maybe his future memories are still somewhere in him.

[@chromos5268]

@@itsKenzii that would make zero sense plus judging by how strong just a fraction of gods power made garou so strong Saitama had to hit him a bunch of times and then had to go back in time before garou adapted to kill him god is definitely stronger than current Saitama and even Saitama vs cosmic garou Saitama by a large margin

[@fbi2522]

Saitama doesn't need the zero punch, however i can definitely see its use once again during the fight with god, if the battle starts destroying everything that exists.

[@palashkale]

Instead of increasing difficulty and going from one to more punches, he went from one to zero punches…. Quite a promotion

[@JoJoLover-c5g]

Ye

[@Jade_d577]

bro went from one punch man to ... one man 💀💀

[@cranberrydeaths3584]

he fucking sneezes@@Jade_d577

[@hn.smrxmix]

@@Jade_d577 hahahahahahahaha

[@BeenDeliveredToday]

I didn't understand that part. What does he mean by "from one to zero punches" ?

[@mitromney]

Besides the Garou fight, another feat worth mentioning is Saitama breaking into another dimension created by Phoenix man. Proves more than just strength or speed, Saitama is beyond space and time, basically, like a toon character. He can just punch reality apart and interact with immaterial beings if he feels like it.

[@ikeillue8385]

That is false. Even Child Emperor was capable of breaking out of that dimension, and I don't think anyone is going to be claiming that Child Emperor, with out his tech (or even with), is beyond space and time.

[@drakinfromterraria9176]

The hakai in my back pocket.

[@TimeToGetAGoodLife]

It's not a literal or physical dimension, it's a mental/spiritual space that doesn't actually exist and is all figurative, kind of like an illusion. In the same way that Itachi can create a different world inside of the Tsukuyomi, but it's not real. Saitama breaking into it is more like mental hax than actually breaking into another dimension. It's just better telepathy.

[@mitromney]

@@ikeillue8385 it's a spiritual dimension created for characters in toy costumes. This is how Child Emperor, the owner of the "brave giant" toy costume can exist there and come out of that space. Phoenix man even said he can teach him how to enter it as well. He is not beyond space and time by any logic. Saitama though, is. He enters that space by PUNCHING A HOLE IN IT, AND ENTERING IT FROM THE OUTSIDE. He punches a hole in a spiritual space. And walks through. Without a toy costume or anything else of sorts. That was my point.

[@ikeillue8385]

@@mitromney Except you are speculating that Child Emperor's robots count as toy costumes, in addition to the fact that its straight up said that he was capable of getting out through shear will power. Its literally the same thing that Saitama does to get in, except he throws a punch as essentially a physical manifestation of his will power. My point is, you are massively wanking Saitama by saying that he is beyond space and time (in fact, the manga literally proves that he is very much bound by space and time.), especially when you are using that particular feat.

[@OilyBeans]

"serious table flip" is crazy tho

[@howdydobuckeroo1204]

You should mention in the beginning how Saitama, while doing his training, would go out of his way to fight and defeat any and every monster and villain he came across. Which is why people actually compare Saitama and Garou’s training to be very similar. Saitama fought monsters constantly while at his weakest during his training. Garou fought heroes constantly no matter how injured or tired he was. He does take breaks when he can, but it’s hard with heroes all over breathing down his neck.

[@OV3R-9K]

Garou did it for maybe like 1.5 months (fighting heroes to get stronger) or something but Saitama did it for 3 years (fighting monsters and training without skipping even if he was nearly dead) you can see the difference between them.

[@howdydobuckeroo1204]

@@OV3R-9K maybe the heroes were way stronger than the monsters saitama fought. And Garou also did spend a long time training under Bang, I’m not sure for how long. From what I remember, I think for Saitama, he gained his immense strength the day he lost his hair, though he was already really tough before then, but I’m assuming that’s the day he broke his limiter, and got exponentially stronger from then on. This would make sense with Garou too, seeing how he had a sort of huge leap in power after all he had done over the years. So with this all together, what I think is that Saitama is probably only stronger because of how much more time he had spent with a broken limiter. I am not sure whether or not Garou broke his limiter, but if he did, then it would be reasonable to assume he would over take Saitama in raw strength within maybe a year. But he should be able to beat Saitama in a fight within, maybe 2 weeks, if he trains his ass off somehow, thanks to his martial arts. This is all assuming Garou broke his limiter and that this is how the limiter works. This is all speculation on my part.

[@dord4453]

@@howdydobuckeroo1204 read the manga

[@dord4453]

@@howdydobuckeroo1204 Saitama is a gag character, he is defined to be unbeatable, so no one is overtaking him ever

[@howdydobuckeroo1204]

@@dord4453 yes, but I like to try figuring out what would happen if he wasn’t.

[@mrpsyco5884]

Man truly lives up to his name of "The Fist that Turned Against God"

[@Lethal-Ninja]

Bro you’ve grown so much with ur takes on Saitama. I’m glad to see the goat recognizes Saitama

[@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б]

Saitama Is Basically That Every Human Should Be Not Including Only Being Bald.

[@NaThingSerious]

Wow this video was incredible, from the script to the clips picked to the editing and the summary itself, it was very entertaining to watch. You’ve earned a sub and I hope you get many more bc you deserve it.

[@yaboyhoudini9356]

Awesome video keep up the good work divine. Also I would like to add that in the fight between garou and saitama garou shoots a beam at saitama with the same amount of force as a gamma ray burst which can emit enough energy in seconds than a sun would emit over 10 billion years. The bursts are so powerful that even the after effects of a burst that was 400 million light years away from earth could feel the effect and saitama tanked it.

[@thatguy5494]

That's crazy

[@Kimito_Lioku]

I can never get tired of this mans voice😅

[@officialdivine..]

🤝

[@officialdivine..]

@@zeppyuwu 🤝

[@officialdivine..]

@@zeppyuwu do i really sound like an ai 😭

[@tfer44]

​@@officialdivine..LOl u don't idk wtf he's on

[@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б]

No. Like A Dictor Actually.​@@officialdivine..

[@directorofcalisthenicsd.o.8567]

Series will end with saitama not defeating God but realizing, he is God.

[@oguzozturk5173]

Saitama surpasses god eventually

[@Lightwork.]

Wb saitama>

[@itsherrotime]

i feel like saitama doesn’t want to be god, he’s just a normal guy at heart. he’s just dumb strong lol

[@akashmaityX]

I dont think saitama can Defeat GOD No matter how powerful saitama is GOD is the one who holds the power to create and destroy he can just erase saitama out of existence..

[@ajunteburns6894]

@@akashmaityX 💯

[@RalphVB]

Your vocal range is awesome. I can't decide wether it's supposed to be in games, movies, on the news or on the radio. You have a real talent bro.

[@haroldsorenhoul4389]

Correction* he was not using his full power, he grew in power while not using his full power. He was glad however that he could use much more of his power than using a absolute atom of his power. But he had to hold back due to the request that he didn't kill Garou. And he had genos core so he was also handicapped.

[@ikeillue8385]

That is actually not correct. Saitama straight up says that he can go all out against Garou, and he can get back up. Also, just because he was holding Genos' core, doesn't mean he wasn't punching with his free hand at full strength.

[@C_Kira_Yagami]

​@@ikeillue8385despite being rageful, saitama was handicapped with genos core, if he was using full power. He wouldn't care about the core and use both his hands, the kid garou was with made a request to saitama not to kill garou. And He did just that, he was still holding back. It's just that he was allowed to use a little more power than usual

[@ikeillue8385]

@@C_Kira_Yagami The issue with your theory is that, just because he was only using one hand, doesn't mean that he wasn't using his full power with that one hand. Saitama straight up says that he can go all out against Garou, and he will still be able to get back up. Saitama was only "holding back" so much as he could have had better technique by using both hands, but as far as his power output, he was going all out.

[@nilagangitlogg]

@@ikeillue8385 Yep full power output at that time but still handicapped and he surpassed that strength anyways and became nonchalant/casual again

[@ikeillue8385]

@@nilagangitlogg Indeed.

[@shriast5156]

Getting goosebumps while listening 🎧 cuz he he explained so amazingly ♥️

[@_nicollaspernando]

Saitama has no concept of "exhaustion/ran out" as his power grows endlessly and all his stats are constantly updated even when he is not training. That's why he never gets injured or runs out of stamina during battle even if his opponent tries to match him.

[@YaboyiNathan]

Where did you pull that from?Saitama has had exhaustion before by just running around looking for enemies

[@Deathward8195]

@@YaboyiNathan Those are comical parts. Do You think he'd be exhausted from running around a few blocks when he can literally outpace FTL+ opponents casually? Pretty obvious that Saitama doesn't have stamina. He literally went MFTL+ on Garou and never showed even a piece of sweat dripping out, or him running out of breath.

[@YaboyiNathan]

@@Deathward8195 Comical parts or not thats how it was written.You cant change how the show was written to fit your argument.Also when he was running it was for almost the entire day so like 6-8 hours..It showed that he started in the morning and was tired when the sky had a visible sunset. Stop giving characters your own head cannon.Saitama himself stated in the fight against Garou that he had a limit.But he can still grow infinitely. And all his stats grow with him.Im not saying that he barely has stamina im saying that this "infinite stamina" is not cannon to the show.

[@Deathward8195]

@@YaboyiNathan Alright, but now I'm curious. Which part of the story was this? I don't remember him wandering around looking for monsters for 6-8 hours 🤨

[@RecklessOtter]

@@YaboyiNathan bro then how did he jump back to earth from the moon. he was tired because he was bored looking for villians not because of the stamina its not a head canon its canon

[@HemoshConsulting]

And I just love this guy's voice it makes me feel so relaxed and it sounds awesome along with the soundtrack

[@ReadysteadyGAME-eo1iu]

Edits,Story telling. He perfects it all.

[@BruhTNT4258]

🦟: your limitlessness stops here

[@ark1st3r37]

I fucking love One Punch Man, it is badass on so many levels, and the way you did the commentary on this video was ✨Immaculate✨

[@Nawsomes]

Why was that so good. This video was amazing, the suspense, story telling, and everything about this video is amazing. Great job on this.

[@adityabhadoo5434]

The quality and research of the video is amazing. Great work man

[@raunaksandhu2382]

I think most people are wrong about one thing Saitama fart is not taking him from the moon of Jupiter to earth but is taking him to the hyperspace gate that garou went through , that's why he is at the back of garou in the next panel he didn't fly from Jupiter to earth in only a few seconds. He went through the gate that garou opened to escape and went through it before garou could close it

[@RageDasher_7751]

Pretty sure that isn't the case. Saitama is just that OP, that he caught up. He isn't that clever to go through the gate, he just had his target locked on, and went for it, becoming FASTER than the gate.

[@alexw1142]

@@RageDasher_7751 you're wrong, he went through the gate, end of.

[@nothing-ej4rh]

​​@@alexw1142end of What?

[@paniccat502]

​@@alexw1142nah bro he just farted there so fast also he went from sun to earth not Jupiter to earth as garu tried throwing him into sun

[@ironhydra5912]

@@paniccat502definitely went through the gate. One of the reasons he commented on it being a nifty ability.

[@sabir_raiyan]

8:57 I've never watched One Punch Man or read the manga. But after hearing this phrase, my mind is not blown, there's a universal hole in it now.

[@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б]

And Saitama Was Still Holding Back.

[@wantabreakfromtheads681]

That's because he grew few times from fighting his actual Garou.The term "zero punches" meant that the saitama from the past just didnt punch his Garou ​@@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б

[@Skyboyena]

You just made me understand the whole series 💯

[@OkoNzuzo]

I couldn't resist subscribing after this amazing video👏👏

[@keithyagami125]

People still think that Goku can beat Saitama... and I realise that people who say this don't quite understand what it means to be limitless. His power is to essentially be so strong that he'll end up defeating his opponent with one punch.

[@foasdmusic9541]

goku still negs, both have no limits but goku scales way higher

[@zaly7243]

I understand where your coming from but goku in dbs is just crazy even when fatigued man literally shook infinity my man that is limitless

[@aqeefizzudin1062]

Saitama will keep growing everytimes he fights an enemy as strong or stronger than him limitlesly due to him breaking the limiter that slows down and stopping the growth of power, strength and energy control from getting to strong until he can defeat 'god'. that is my theory

[@keithyagami125]

Guys, don't get us wrong, Goku is a tank for sure, but come on, think logically. If you have a character that will often break through their limits (Goku) vs Someone who has completely removed the thing that puts limits ( Saitama ) it's no longer a fair fight.. Think of it like this, a building with multiple infinite levels is what we call a limiter and the levels within it are the limits, Goku is currently on the highest level of the building but each level progressively gets harder and harder to reach or break through hence why he has to train to reach those new limits. The difference now with Saitama is that he has completely removed that building that's holding him back and he no longer has no need to ascend any higher because whatever strength he needs is readily available. Understanding this on its own will make you see that even though Saitama has yet to show some pretty impressive feats, he eventually will if he faces an opponent like Goku

[@keymash]

@@keithyagami125you’re wrong, saitama is an example of no limit fallacy. no limit fallacy is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated). the whole saitama kills anything with one punch thing was already debunked by both boros and garou taking many hits to the face. anyways lets go back to the main argument with no limit fallacies in mind, lets put him up against goku. unless we actually see him doing things on the same level or beyond what goku can do then we don't actually have proof he can. removing a biological limiter may mean infinite power on paper but in reality it just wouldn’t work.

[@jaydenxz]

wow. this is so well narrated and edited kept me watching all the way you deserve so much more and also im subscribing love this.

[@C_Kira_Yagami]

Rember, he did all this with 100 pushups, 100 squats, 100 situps and 10k run everyday while eating very little and not use A/C for 3 years

[@gio.gionosakan]

This video is great and all (I am honestly really grateful this video exists and thank you so much for going through the effort of making this!!) but these aren't all of Saitama's insane feats or statements on his power. You got these mainly from the Boros and Garou fight but throughout the story, there are about 5 to 10 more crazy feats of Saitama you didn't talk about. If you or somebody else wants to know about them, I can eslist them

[@cyphlone3306]

Please list them.

[@The_Collect0r]

This was amazing, I'm rewatching it right now, I'm wondering if you'd ever do a scaling of Black Goku/Goku Black?

[@officialdivine..]

i will

[@searyer]

Can we talk about how realistic the background fight is?

[@J2_777]

The format is immaculate

[@officialdivine..]

🤝

[@bunju8990]

This is your best video yet 💯

[@MrHestolemyname]

Your videos are top notch! I've just been binge watching a few and I cant stop!

[@A_Person5280]

I always took Saitama’s training regiment as a joke, because there’s no way such a simple regiment made Saitama so strong. But people here seem to think the joke is seriously how he got the power to fart faster than the speed of light and be apparently invulnerable with unlimited strength…

[@antwonaztec4356]

I mean, that’s literally the entire character. None of it is serious. Dude literally said it at the beginning of the video “he’s a final boss at level 1” (or something like that. The entire character is supposed to be a joke. Dude can become as powerful as he needs/wants to. His way of showing it is forcing out a fart that makes him travel faster than the speed of light.

[@dennisph1837]

Bro compress his fart so hard it lunches him faster than light 💀

[@A_Person5280]

@@antwonaztec4356 And because Saitama is a joke character, he’s what’s called in literature, an unreliable narrator. So when he tells Genos that he got that strong from his training regime, we the reader can’t trust that as the actual source of his power, because Saitama himself is clueless and wouldn’t know

[@DoctorBones1]

That is actually how it happened though. We see it again with glasses taking saitamas advice to heart, starting to train like him and then being able to match garou in a fistfight when he didnt even come close before

[@stxyrv]

sans @@antwonaztec4356

[@FloppagangEdits]

3:44 my dumb ahh thought he was gonna saying godzilla

[@AriyaZamora-z3i]

Getting goosebumps while listening cuz he he explained so amazingly ️. Anyone else here from TikTok?.

[@Approxied]

BTW The manga panel that says Boundless Strength is an edited panel, the real panel says immense not Boundless

[@officialdivine..]

that’s cool

[@faithfulblase6731]

🤡 it never said boundless, it only stated he's infinitely Strong, stop crying and pick up the manga for what it's worth 🤷🤷🤷

[@faithfulblase6731]

🤡 it never said boundless, it only stated he's infinitely Strong, stop crying and pick up the manga for what it's worth 🤷🤷🤷

[@Reno]

Reading some of these comments and exchanges is like watching a poorly made comedy skit. "BTW The manga panel that says Boundless Strength is an edited panel, the real panel says immense not Boundless" There is no edit, there are different translations. There is the translation from Viz and the translation from groups that generally translate mangas for free(or donations), for people to be able to read free of charge. "it never said boundless, it only stated he's infinitely Strong, stop crying and pick up the manga for what it's worth" Boundless=Infinite(not the hyperbolic/finite and merely subjective extremely vast meaning of the word)=Limitless=Endless 1. Boros from Anime: I CAN sense NO LIMIT to his energy 2. Boros from Manga: Immeasurable Energy 3. Now according to Dr.Genus theory: He had removed his limiter. - When ZombieMan tried to argue the usual poop from Saitama downplayers saying "I too know of freaks that disregard the limits of their ability, a human whom wields power beyond that of a monster, without becoming a monster is called a hero"[basically OPM downplayers saying "But Goku doesn't have limits too!"(lie, he does, proven constantly he just surpasses the current limit only to reach and stop at another one, Goku himself has also verbally admit during Moro arc to having limits-all characters in DB to have limits)] Dr.Genus refutes this poop of ZombieMan/Saitama downplayers and replies: I am afraid that what I speak of lies in a completely different dimension than what you envision. HE(Saitama) was DIFFERENT. An ordinary birth, an ordinary life, just a normal person with no talent or potential. Though effort alone, he pried open the door of his limits and broke his limiter. (

[@Reno]

@@officialdivine.. ^^^

[@elytroz6003]

Saitama only didn’t one shot Boros because boros said he’s never had a challenge so he gave him one

[@Geraldo_rich]

Wtf

[@SlurpySlimy]

@@Geraldo_rich Saitama gave Boros his wish of getting a challenging fight. If he were just to end it in a single punch it wouldnt fullfill his wish, so saitama held back

[@arjayz6030]

Boros backstory, tareo promise,genos core holding back GOATAMA.

[@asonofliberty3662]

You’re lowballing, Boros. While yes, we are dealing with a much weaker Saitama Booros survived a serious punch.

[@user-lw5ph4dq5g]

​@@asonofliberty3662it was the truth tho boros himself admitted that Saitama was holding back

[@dopenessthe4th]

In my opinion The difference between the Boros Serious Punch and the Garou Serious Punch Is that one was for effect and the other was actually, genuinely Serious Which is pretty terrifying

[@taichi1191]

Neither punches were actually 'serious' by Saitama's terms, he simply adjusts his power to the person he is fighting. The serious punch he used for Boros was significantly weaker than the punch he used for Garou. If he used the same punch on Boros, he would've shattered the Earth (according to Blast). Not to mention, that punch on Garou was before he started exponentially growing so we know there's different levels to his serious moves. Though, it's highly unlikely that we will ever see Saitama genuinely serious because even Murata says no-one can measure his strength.

[@prod_EYES]

@@taichi1191no, did you not see in the graph? Saitama was on par with Cosmic Garou, but that was only 100% his surface level strength. As the fight went on, his plethora of untapped potential was released resulting in his surface level strength growing exponentially. But his serious series punch against Garou was actually him being dead serious. He wouldn’t fuck around knowing Genos is literally dead

[@itsallgoodman940]

And still not going all out.

[@El-ReyPadya]

Shaggy: is that all you got 😂😂😂

[@peakinsert1276]

Imagine after sitama finished his training and tried a full power punch against a sandbag

[@JynzoeAnimates]

Garou's cake tho💀💀💀 4:41

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

6:30 This motherfucker spittin

[@asdghhjkkwoowri]

When Garou sees this he decides “yup that’s enough, get me the hell outta here”😭

[@dreadfulbadger]

Also in the rubble of Jupiters moon saitama could move so fast that not only could garou not keep up, he couldn't even keep track

[@JKevz1]

Fighting with one hand, the other is holding genos' core, trying not to break it, with a promise to tarrio not to kill garou.

[@vasudev327]

I like the part which garou refuses and slaps the GOD's hand🔥

[@Kohzie3D]

That final fight was beautifully annotated

[@revan4130]

I've been saying this from the start of the series, Saitama grows to whatever opponent he is fighting. He has absolutely no limit. At this rate he has the potential to be the strongest anime character of all time. It doesn't make sense and its not supposed to, he grows to whatever he has to face. Hes truly invincible.

[@NOU-iw3gb]

This.

[@isennen-]

problem is infinite potential is only high universal you need to be beyond infinite to be multiversal and the strongest anime character is outversal a tier that is beyond infinite and immeasurable with irrelevant speed

[@revan4130]

@@isennen- Sir this is a Wendy's

[@isennen-]

@@revan4130 wdym were in a mcdonalds

[@revan4130]

@@isennen- I think hes just gonna keep going and going. its like hes's able to adapt to whatever hes fighting. Went from city level to galaxy level and is still bored.

[@randompoorlydrawndragon3076]

I like to think saitama truly found a way to completely break his own limiter and basically has this ability which makes him gradually stronger depending on the opponent he fights

[@thatscool621]

I believe Boros wasn’t supposed to fight Saitama. I believe Boros was supposed to fight Blast but, Saitama being basically an anomaly, happened to be their instead of Blast.

[@baldroinnsson783]

Or Garou

[@fork4207]

Proabably blast or if it was garou then he was too early.

[@juruu9]

this video was sick my guy

[@guppygamer6844]

4:05 bro said “platinum sperm”

[@StarrMover]

He said what we all we thinking

[@Heinzbeanz7373]

He reached the final level of gooning

[@neverknewitbefore]

I mean that is his name

[@grilled608]

1:02, saitama didnt just break it he removed it entirely as stated here

[@izzanirfan2534]

Ya, the difference is if you break a limit, there's a new higher limit you have to break, garou is a good example. While saitama removed it completely,he don't need to struggle to get stronger

[@k.srinivasareddysrinivas3258]

Yeah 😂

[@Deathward8195]

I saw a really cool estimation of his potential based on his exponential growth, so I wouldn't be surprised if he really does end up becoming one of the strongest, if not the strongest Anime Character in the future.

[@ikeillue8385]

Except its not his power that increased exponentially, it was his growth that increased exponentially (I know that increasing his rate of growth also increases his base power, but an exponential increase to his rate of growth is going to have significantly less impact on his overall power than an exponential increase to his power itself.). That aside, its possible that Saitama may be one of, if not the strongest character in anime, but its also possible that he will remain mid tier. Its all speculation, until we actually see it happen.

[@Xtennsion]

that would be funny, saitama could get so powerful he could prolly just go to different anime universes, imagine you just see him in the background in some manga panels eating some sushi

[@bu11ymaguire]

​​​@@ikeillue8385y are you crying because of a character? Yusuke murata made sure to prove a point that saitama's growth is so fast that he will always outgrow his opponent in a matter of very few minutes. And he doesn't get hurt even a bit. Not even a scratch.. he kicks a teleportation portal.. it literally means he kicked a tear in space. That doesn't even make sense. No rules apply to him..He will always become so fast and so strong that his opponent will be beat in one punch. It's so clear even now that no chracter in the history of fiction can defeat Saitama. It's either a stalemate like with cas or Saitama will win. Also for DBZ ....Until now no character has some power that makes them omnipotent.. so all of dbz will lose doesn't matter how enormously strong they are.

[@Deathward8195]

@@ikeillue8385 Are You sure? The panel was DIRECTLY addressing how his *Strength* grew exponentially. Either You're lying or whatever translation You read was wrong.

[@Deathward8195]

@@Xtennsion I mean he's already breaking through pocket dimensions, maybe it's a hidden ability.

[@driellx6640]

Man.. i'm seeing this at 3AM goes absolutely hard for no reason 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bayanalharthi3847]

0:05 Song bame?

[@mInIOnsJa]

Idk

[@nath.350]

​@@mInIOnsJaf you

[@idkwhatmynameIs-rb2td]

The song name is JOKES ASIDE

[@thorshammer7883]

Oh I have to ask do you know about this intentionally designed overpowered character of his verse's narrative? His name is Wang Ling and he is from a Chinese literature Light Novel and Anime series called "The Daily Life of the Immortal King". If you haven't heard it try checking it out sometime you might find Wang Ling a very interesting take on the Overpowered protagonist genre. He's similar to Anos Voldigoad in the way he wants to normally live but he isn't as sass as Anos is. He's very laid back and blends in very well and enjoys a regular modern teenage life and he gets a girlfriend.

[@officialdivine..]

yeah i’ve heard of this imma make a video on him soon too

[@thorshammer7883]

@@officialdivine.. I like the teenage girl who becomes Wang Ling's girlfriend she's sweet and she grows on you overtime and she always generally cares about Wang Ling even when knowing he so powerful. Based on the anime I seen by season 2 he's already accidentally without even trying below even his base while his power is actively being retrained and held back to knock around what might probably be considered a multiversal tier Demon Emperor whose's conquered millions of realities within his thousands of years of living around like a rag doll. And when a portion of his true power accidentally get released while he's trying to hold it back wipes out the demon dimension without intending to. And apparently in the light novels his feats and cosmology goes a bit higher after that. Though I don't really trust most supposive internet scalers who often take things out of context and use fragments without properly testing to prove their claims and highball and overblow everything out of proportions beyond reasoning without contrasting and testing the different details they use as their paradigm. Which case there are alot of those kind of scalers surrounding the threads about Wang Ling.

[@fw_rhetorical]

he’s overwanked imo, at least in the anime. People keep using the feat where he restarted the universe just for his “girl”. They also use the feat of him entering the real world, which is just a 4th wall interaction according to my knowledge. And lastly, in the LN, wang Ling debaters bring up the “place of mirrors” feat that you probably know of.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@fw_rhetorical In case you don't know, I am aware of the mishaps the powerscaling community. Wang Ling being highballed beyond reasonable speculations is unfortunately a common trait across the powerscaling community. It's a culture doctrine mindset of their's to highball everything to eleven based on: "false paradigms", "fragmented passages which they can use to subjectively interpret into whatever they want not based on objective stable evidence & properly proving by testing" "Insinuations based on deceitful assumptions and corrupted definitions", "Vague concepts, theology, and cosmology which everybody misinterprets when they have no understanding anything in their position of willing ignorance which they then use to highball everything that the argument is built on a foundation of sinking sand and not on stable hard grounds." And then they divide their opposition into confusion. Once you actually go deeper and wider against their argument and test it out you realize just how unsupported their claims truly are and how they don't even how a objective foundation to support themselves on that is unproven. It's a unfortunate doctrine many are led astray on and it is vanity. It's sad but it's a practice that deserves to be rebuked. Prove all things; hold fast that whcih is good. Those who strive to abide by the truth and prove it, we are to be standfast and to be seperated from that kind of shortsighted foolishness of false knowledge and false wisdom. Wang Ling is one of many characters whose scaling gets wanked, highballed, overexaggerated, hyperboled, overmeasured, artificial inflate scaling like Pharisee leaven ideology, exalting the paradigms, and many other things that trap people into a limited false understanding which is quite unruly. A false paradigm that is baseless and without a firm foundation. Often tried to be justfied and validated through false scaling measures and theologies which are often highballed as well. I seen it happen to Dragon Ball before by some people so I am not surprised and I am not taken by unawares by it when I see these practices in plain sight. Because they have been done before. Now Wang Ling after season 2 can scaled higher based on his casual performance against the Demon Emperor however once I see someone starting to scale him to outerversal and boundless based on the stupid concept theology of the "Dao" Light Novel stuff they use and then implement Buddhism or Hindu man made concepts into the claims to inflate the whole scale (which I purely disapprove and firmly disagree with their implementation and the different collective indoctrinated interpretations of them) that is where I instantly know what the fruits of the person's labor is. Corrupt bad fruits often that are not wise.

[@billkaran3990]

All that for Mr.Satan to solo.

[@void_skeptic7578]

W vid man🔥, I hope you reach whatever your sub goal is cause you deserve it.

[@officialdivine..]

🤝

[@Mithavious]

He's obviosly not currently stronger then goku but def has the potentiol to do so and thats what most can def agree on.

[@colton2266]

I'm a fan of both Dragonball and OPM, and while in the past I've rooted for Goku, I really think that Saitama now is stronger. (while we can't PERFECTLY determine it because I mean... we won't ever see them canonically fight lol) Seeing Saitama's growth, and how he was Galaxy cluster level, and that was BEFORE he became many times stronger in the fight with Garou. If he's not now, he will DEFINETLY become stronger than Goku, although if you think about it, they probably wouldn't fight if they met each other, and in all honesty they'd prolly become best friends lmao. Also, regardless of who wins, weather Goku just has too much power to keep up with, or Saitama can grow enough to even beat him, it would be the greatest fight you could think of in Anime lol (of course all of this is my opinion, and we all are entitled to our opinions... unless if you think like idk, Yamcha would beat Saitama lol)

[@SpedSukuna]

​@@colton2266respect to you for being sensible and not depraved like some parts of the dbs and opm fandom

[@nickstrider8504]

yeah, i think saitama is stronger than goku now.

[@nickstrider8504]

i feel like cosmic garou vs goku would be pretty cool, since cosmic garou would be able to copy a lot of goku's techniques, powers and strength, (imagine a cosmic kamehameha) obviously goku would come out on top but it would be a long entertaining fight.

[@Hakuta925]

​​​@@nickstrider8504doubt garou can copy Goku abilities most of goku abilities requires ki and garou doesn't have ki.

[@anthonylyle2687]

What some people don't seem to understand is that saitama before getting his power was so weak that maybe mumen rider could decimate him but after doing that training regimen which pushed way past his limits, he now has limitless potential or power depends on what others speculate

[@funyunsgamingcove6655]

Saitama before training beat a tiger lvl threat in crablante. He could probably have beaten mumen rider

[@xfrianimations1354]

@@funyunsgamingcove6655 that was a couple months to a year after he started training. Sure it was the first person he fought in the anime, but the manga clearly shows he was training a long time before that.

[@funyunsgamingcove6655]

@@xfrianimations1354 I'll check the manga bit I'm pretty sure you're wrong

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

​@@xfrianimations1354bruh no it wasn't lmfao Saitama beat crablante literally after getting laid off/rejected from an interview.

[@sicksock435446]

@@xfrianimations1354 IIRC that was 0 training saitama after giving up on getting a job.

[@voidlzplayz4793]

Man I cannot WAIT until the next season of opm when this fight happens, we will really be able to see it all in its epicness.

[@monkeybomb1232]

His power is passive reality warping. It lines up with his weird feats like entering other dimensions or why he can aim a fart from the sun to earth accuratley and his antifeats like with the mosquito or cat scratching him. He thinks thoes things will happen so they do. Hes literaly infinite in power and ability and can/will do anything he can think of, what he thinks will happen will happen. Garou still had a limiter as a mysterious being he had just broken his limiter as a human and gained a new one (this is what psycos was experimenting with) He hadnt removed it entirely. He was limited by the physics of the world while saitama isnt and can change thoes rules. Its why garou cant copy saitama hes limited by what is physicaly possible. The graph we see is only saitamas physical power as it exists at that moment in time. I think the thing that happened with saturn is saitama had made himself so strong and wasnt paying attention/ the sneze took over his throught processes so things just played out without his will enforcing outcomes so bye bye planet. Unless he makes himself weaker again or is passivley controlling his power he can be incredibly dangerous.

[@NegotiationsGang]

no its gag lol

[@raunaksandhu2382]

I think most people are wrong about one thing Saitama fart is not taking him from the moon of Jupiter to earth but is taking him to the hyperspace gate that garou went through , that's why he is at the back of garou in the next panel he didn't fly from Jupiter to earth in only a few seconds. He went through the gate that garou opened to escape and went through it before garou could close it

[@YaboyiNathan]

​@@NegotiationsGangstopped being a gag character after not defeating multiple people with "one punch"

[@YaboyiNathan]

the only thing infinite about Saitama is his potential.Entering a dimension does not give him infinite strength

[@Slabernick]

@@YaboyiNathan Fax

[@Nvidia_geforce_rtx_4080_super]

1:16 Theres also wolf level threat

[@SkillsHub11]

Ap: Multi galaxy - uni Speed: MFTL+

[@Brosie_Osie]

Multi

[@אילאיאוזן]

MASTERPIECE!!!!

[@beebebeebe8531]

People literally don't understand saitamas power which is what makes this all entertaining 😅😂

[@nathanchocomint]

3:11 Correction: Boros is Star level, so it doesn't make sense his biggest attack just destroys the planet surface. Even in anime, he stated that it will obliterate earth

[@FC-nr4ot]

3:02 that took him 10 seconds making him move at 86,000,000mph or 0.12-0.13 x lightspeed

[@rogerstalder7184]

Whoever does your Videos.. got some sick Talent.

[@Stonegum]

Saitama also trained his spirit allowing him go beyond his limit

[@anomite121]

yeah thats why tatsumaki cant beat him

[@BruhTNT4258]

🦟: your limitlessness stops here.

[@rafid917]

Actually he was looking for blast not Saitama😅 1:55

[@TheWipera2010]

What is the musci pls?

[@CRINGE_EDITS_]

Long story short, he is strong enough to open the peanut butter jar.

[@SmallBoi20]

7:06 did saitama just punch garou's nuts??

[@darkdoge9267]

0:26 nearly impossible training, bro that is a classic daily workout

[@Moriarty101]

For saitama.. also 10KM run everyday is definitely not a classic one. Its very hard.

[@deylack]

daily? if your doing that daily your body hates you. your supposed to have rest days and give your muscles time to grow in lol. i can tell you don’t work out at all

[@darkdoge9267]

bro all i was saying is that its fucking easy to do that daily

[@deylack]

@@darkdoge9267 but it’s not tho? after a week your entire body would be aching. have you ever been to a gym in your entire life?

[@darkdoge9267]

@@deylack bro what do pushups situps and squats have to do with a gym

[@findrandomshithere]

Correction: He didn't break his limiter, he straight up removed it

[@ikeillue8385]

arbitrary semantics. Its the same result either way. Whether its completely gone, or not functioning, its results in the same thing.

[@findrandomshithere]

@@ikeillue8385 Breaking your limiter makes a new one 💀💀💀💀 (according to many people)

[@ikeillue8385]

@@findrandomshithere That is in fact a theory. But with the exact same amount of evidence to support that theory, I could say that removing a limit also makes a new one. They are quite literally the exact same thing.

[@findrandomshithere]

@@ikeillue8385 I know it's a theory but when I think of the difference between breaking or removing a limiter I think of a window, if you break it, there'll still be shards left, but if you remove the window there'll be nothing left.

[@ikeillue8385]

@@findrandomshithere I understand your reasoning. And I don't mean to be a jerk, but at the end of the day, its a completely arbitrary difference. Even in your example, is the removed window going to be functionally different from the broken window? Its still going to make it so there is no seal to the house, its still going to make it so that bugs and other critters will be able to get in, it is still going to offer no resistance if someone or something tries to get out, ETC.

[@markanthony1004]

Dude sneezed and freaking blew the surface off Jupiter in space. The entire planet earth can’t do that

[@_General_Grievous__]

The crazy part is that during that whole fight with Garou he was using one hand😂

[@gmexc5032]

Holyyshhit, I forgot about that, so he literally singlehandedly fight Garou

[@astrology_2]

He always uses one hand

[@wantedno7968]

​@@gmexc5032yeahhh

[@malep-officiel1604]

You forgot a part. Saitama doesn't decide to get more powerful it's written, it's emotionally triggered by Genos's death. And you can specify that Saitama doesn't keep this level power, he certainly can get it again (except time travel) but that never happen so he stay at his normal level

[@ikeillue8385]

That isn't quite accurate. The manga clarifies that Saitama is in a constant state of growth, but the emotion he got from Genos' death caused that growth to increase exponentially. So, in theory, he will eventually reach the level of power he was at when he fought Garou, assuming that he did in fact lose that power when time corrected itself.

[@malep-officiel1604]

@@ikeillue8385 so it's accurate. you're maybe right but we don't know. I've said only what we know. And we know he don't have this power anymore ("inverted causality", "no more memories"...) as we know why he was evolving so fast. We actually have no clue about the ability to get this level without emotion. You can't do more accurate than that.

[@ikeillue8385]

@@malep-officiel1604 Mostly accurate, but again, it is canon that Saitama is in a constant state of growth. Its just a matter of, is that normal growth fast enough that he will reach the level that he got to with his accelerated growth, within his lifetime or not. But we know for sure that he will not stay at his "normal level" of power, because that level is constantly increasing.

[@malep-officiel1604]

@@ikeillue8385 no, totally accurate... you can play with what could happen but there is fact. And one of them show the "constant state of grow" you speak about I think that speak by itself (drawing). Present Saitama is too far from this evolving Saitama he could have been. He certainly will need a new trigger to get it. All we know for sure is at this day he is faaaaaaarrrrrrr

[@ikeillue8385]

@@malep-officiel1604 Hold on, are you talking about the actual level of power that he reaches during the Garou fight, or are you talking about the rate of power increase he gets from the emotional surge? Because if you are talking about the actual level of power he gets to (which is what it sounded like you were talking about), then the only question of whether he will reach that level or not, is if his normal rate of growth is fast enough to get to that level in his lifetime. However, if you are talking about the rate at which his power was growing because of that emotional surge, then I you are absolutely right, because we have no indication that anything other than that surge of emotion changes his rate of growth at all.

[@kel_irv]

and people still think goku can beat him 💀💀 saitama literally put a hole in space time with a single punch

[@600levi]

fr

[@zenkaienergy3135]

Is anyone supposed to be impressed😂

[@zenkaienergy3135]

Kid buu (dbz) SHATTERED THROUGH DIMENSIONS CASUALLY but still got ended by goku.

[@rsk2735]

Ngl the way u explain this literally is perfect love these vids

[@fqruk7426]

if saitama's power is limitless, than there is a chance. ive seen multiple people who lets say become stronger than their own creator (hes also the main character)

[@tbhcreature]

bruh 💀💀 7:56

[@idkwhouare.9171]

Serious fart😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@noscopelock4]

​@@idkwhouare.9171taco bell probs

[@idkwhouare.9171]

@@noscopelock4 frrr btw it is 5am in my country and I just woke up

[@androzaghtiti5014]

7:48 loollllll

[@tavinyo2]

holy shit this video was something i got chills like 13 times, what the fuck

[@dl3487]

Bro...Did you edit this video?

[@officialdivine..]

yes sir

[@michaelurmo7984]

And everyone be mad when I say Saitama wins a fight between him and Goku. Don't get me wrong, I love my boy Goku. But facts are facts.

[@Lost_April]

Fr. But they most likely be a tie

[@monkepopbloon2307]

How does saitama beat goku the video says and explains how saitama is not infinite in strength even if he was goku has statments about him and all saiyans have infinite potential so by your logic saiyan saga goku should be equal to saitama but lets say saitama is infinite in strength and speed Now lets see where goku scales He almost destroyed the universe 7 macrocosm and one more punch would of done it Universe 7 at bare minimum has the mortal universe that is infinite in size then after life which transcends that in dimensions making is 4d to 5d then the grand kai realm that transcends that making it 5d to 6d each of these realms are infinite or infinitely transcending or transcendent in size outside of all of those realities is the kaioshin realm 6d to 7d also infinite in size and that is how strong base goku is that the start he can shake infinite voids by exsisting shatter space and hyperspace so you can not even you the saitama hyperspace argument since it does not apply here if both can do that with goku doing it on a 5th dimensional scale while saitama did it on a 4d scale goku also has techniques skill and ki also the tournament of power shows goku should grow similar to saitama which does not matter as saitama can not grow infinitely stronger in a battle and only multiply by a finite amount as it was explained so many times also for people saying saitana could blow up earth and goku can not breath in space goku is so fast he could teleport and notice saitama doing anything like that and get out of the way or blast him before he does that also goku from dbz who can beat kid boo who lowballed casual destroys galaxies and was stated to destroy the mortal universe in a poof being infinitely fast also buu has multiple infinite speed feats like being comparable to instant transmission which is instant and goku has gotten decillions of times stronger since then his skill and growth in unmatched so goku beats saitama in both a death battle and equal stats battle

[@Lost_April]

@@monkepopbloon2307 the OPM Author already stated that whenever Saitama fights stronger opponents, his strength would rapidly increase. Goku in the other hand could potentially get a stronger form more powerful than MUI if he fought Saitama for long, All that shit of yours saying 7D?? Is comeplete bogus, and your making stuff up. *They both tied* Besides... OPM manga hasn't even ended, just wait for enough source material until you make this long ass paragraph.

[@monkepopbloon2307]

how am i making stuff up first of all saitama does not grow to power equal to infinity but grows forever till infinity aka infinite potential second all when you power scale you go off of feats alone it does notn matter if saitama will beat goku eventually it is if he can beat him right now my reasoning for goku being 7d is because the living world which is infinite is 3d with hell and the demon realm being beyond that being stated to be 4d by offical sources then there is king yemmas realm which can be argued to be in the same realm as hell and heaven ranging from 4d to 5d if we say 4d then we have the grad kai planet which is said to exist beyond the after life and therefore 5d then there is the supreme kai world which is 6d as it exists outside all of what i just said and has been stated to also be infinite just like everything else being a bigger infinity than the living world and the grand kai planet as it is 10 percent of an infinity that transcends infinity multiple times because of the after life exsisting in a higher dimension after that goku surpasses jiren who was said to be stronger than infinite zamsu who is a multiversal time line incarnate with the multiverse ranging from 7d to 9d this firmly puts goku in the complex multiversal tier even if you want to say goku is not infinite zamasu level and that the grand kai world is part of the after life and demon realm this puts goku above 4d or around 5d level making him multiversal if you want to lowball his feats and downplay his progression as goku in base aftr battle of gods could destroy all of this in 3 punches he gets many many times stronger and achieve many new forms saitama on the other hand his best feat right now is multi galaxy level we could use set theory to define saitamas strength limit or his hypothetical limit of infinity as 4d with his portal feat if you want to high ball it saitama with the most generous highball is 4d with infinite speed and strength while goku with the nastious lowball while still being true to the guids is 4d to 5d with irrelevant speeds and uncountable infinity strength not to mention goku has a lot of experiance and could beat saitama with skill as skill can beat opponents millions of times stronger than you if used correctly @@Lost_April

[@Lost_April]

@@monkepopbloon2307 Dude, why tf would you make 2 god damn paragraphs of 2 fictional characters. 💀 Atleast make your statement simple. But still, what your saying is somewhat true. Goku has an advantage since he has more experience, and his story began at 1984, while Saitama has little back story to his journey of becoming a Hero, and his story began at 2009 as a web comic.

[@bornkinggamer3347]

2:18 No he used consecutive normal punches against beast king.

[@benbenbantiling4257]

Well yes but he still got one shot he didn't really do it because it was someone strong he did it because he wanted to end things fast

[@lazyme3929]

Now u should powerscale Empty void :)