How STRONG Was Toshiro Hitsugaya in TYBW? The Prodigy's COMPLETED BANKAI | Bleach

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Hitsugaya has a pretty rough time of it in TYBW - but with his completed Bankai, he achieves new heights of power!
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Toshiro Hitsugaya doesn't undergo quite the same journey as Byakuya and Kenpachi. In fact, his TYBW is actually quite rough.
But he does reveal a brand-new form, throwing into question just how strong he actually was in the arc, which is what we're going to look at today! What sort of level is the icy Captain on by the end of the series?
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Intro - 00:00
Hitsugaya's current ranking - 01:31
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Adult Hitsugaya - 17:58
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Use Code "TOMMO" to get $5 off for your first #Sakuraco box through this link: team.sakura.co/MrTommo2304 and #TokyoTreat box through this link: team.tokyotreat.com/MrTommo2304 How powerful did Toshiro become in TYBW? How strong is his completed Bankai? Let me know your thoughts down below!

[@nullJQ]

I love you

[@jaycjas3143]

Don't forget even rukia almost injured herself with her bankai. So without mastering his bankai it would injure him like rukias bankai was about to do to her before her brother stopped her.

[@trueSconox]

hey it's me again, with a pronunciation hint. it's pronounced Hoffnung, not Hoffnang. 😊

[@johnblack9880]

Nothing KFC themed from a Japanese Xmas snack box?

[@trueSconox]

@@johnblack9880 why should they?

[@blazingdance3612]

Shunsui wasn't kidding when he said in 100 years he might even be stronger then me. Look at how freaking OP he is in even less time than that! He is a pretty darn cool character and I really love what they did with his Bankai after all this time.

[@residentevil2928]

I don't think he is

[@Rhekon]

He will be, but it won't matter if he can't change the area of effect in order to nullify other bankai. But hitsugaya vastly outstrips all of his contemporaries in exponential growth, even the other genius types relative to him in power like gin and byakuya. They were just stronger initially with higher battle iq. He could totally neg byakuya end of series though, assuming he gets to use his true bankai and isn't bombarded by a billion razors. He lacks the speed still.

[@Grayson-Winchester]

I think he as a character should have been more utilized in the TYBW. As of now I feel like I still don't know him. The praised prodigy always felt underwhelming. He should have already clashed with Ichigo in Soul Society arc to be more important to the story

[@blazingdance3612]

@@Grayson-Winchester I can understand where you are coming from. I have always felt that his genius and cool headed ability on the battlefield was never properly used in battle. He had plenty of qualities and great abilities to be used, but unfortunately his character was not greatly touched on throughout the show, other than his leadership. However, Kubo did fail to give a lot of the characters a solid amount of time to develop but I still believe Toshiro is a great character (and my second favorite). His team up with Kenpatchi and Byakuya against Gerard was awesome! So overall, he does lack great development but he's a fine great character compared to most of the others.

[@0eyes]

@@Rhekon Kenpachi still has him in growth as a kid, he was capable of beating a sword master without any training.

[@nahte123456]

On Toshiro's petals, I imagine how it works is when the petals drop they TRY to turn him into "Prime Toshiro", but Toshiro's body couldn't take that change until TYBW. Hence why he never talks about it, it symbolized his inexperience.

[@RickyUzumaki993]

Makes sense

[@mugenhikage]

I always thought that pre-time skip, when Hitsugaya's bankai petals popped, he physically couldn't take the power surge. So not necessarily a BANKAI failure but more a HISTSUGAYA failure. So it doesn't really make Kubo's statement controversial at all. Similar to Kenny's bankai. The bankai didn't fail, Kenny's body did. Also, Byakuya's shikai AND bankai got a massive power up simply from being put thru the pools in the Royal Palace. So it seems that any shinigami can increase the output/capabilties of the Zanpakto by simply having a stronger/adept body. Another point, in the final battle with Yhwach, Ichigo quite literally says he can't yet deal with all his powers at the same time and he needs to find a round about way to even activate it.

[@RickyUzumaki993]

Sounds about right to me

[@justinedwards5047]

I agree with all of this

[@mastertucker]

Came to the comments to say the same exact thing lol

[@0eyes]

I think people misunderstand that Byakuya basically was doing inner world training with his shikai. He says himself he needed to strengthen the bonds with Senbonzakura.

[@qtscorpkid]

I love the fact they turned hitsugaya into the inverse of Yamamoto. You have an elder captain who on the surface is cold as ice incidentally with the power of the Sun and then you have a young hot headed captain whose power is ice who can flash freeze It's times like this that make me wish captains would have trained with each other cuz toshiro under the tutelage of Yamamoto could have been insane

[@babytoshiro7014]

Never thought of it like that but yea

[@allPodd]

Maybe they will meet and train in the hell arc 😅

[@manuelacosta9463]

He has strong potential as a candidate for being the future Commander, his determination even learning the basics to operate without Bankai is admirable while his determination is inspiring. Sometimes that's all you need.

[@simpgod2170]

Shunshi said the next after him would be byakuya

[@AlexHiddleson-ip7cj]

@@simpgod2170 He said probably and considering its not to far off time wise from TTYBW in the cant fear your own world its highly unlikely shunsui will be out of his post anytime soon. Toshiro dead ass has the ice version of old man yammas zanpakto.

[@AlexHiddleson-ip7cj]

Not disrespecting byakuya though of course.

[@darknesswave100]

​@AlexHiddleson-ip7cj it all depends on if he can mature enough. Cause as of right now he's too impulsive. He has a lot of maturing to do that doesn't involve his bankai making him do it

[@KaiserAfini]

He wouldn't be one of my top choices, he doesn't have the composure, strategic mind and flexibility required of the job. A big reason Kyoraku is a better captain commander than Yammamoto is because he is a much more flexible thinker that remains humane. Hitsugaya is still very rigid on his approach, despite having talent and determination.

[@RGA301092]

When you think about it, Daiguren Hyorinmaru seems to have an abnormally high ceiling for a Bankai, along with Hitsugaya being TOO much of a prodigy. He achieved Bankai within a year of training in the Academy, but then took nearly 47 years to fully master it, and STILL can't make use of that power without having to forcibly age himself. His body can't keep up with his own potential.

[@thatonetemplar]

True, the supremely slow aging of souls and soul reapers is ironically his biggest obstacle

[@darknesswave100]

It's too bad there's not a way to age him in a quick way. His ceiling is in space but he's stuck on the ground essentially

[@thatonetemplar]

@@darknesswave100 It's the curse of having that level of potential. I imagine Yamamoto had to suffer the same ordeals when he was young

[@samulityyska2269]

Toshiro's matured Bankai ability is truly OP. The ability to flash freeze anything and thus temporarily shut down your opponent's abilities gives him the capability to deliver quick and easy kills on hapless foes.

[@edwinpoon]

Only Mayuri can stop him. Mayuri-sama is the true OP, haha.

[@iurigomes603]

I mean... this maybe quite a stretch, but could Hitsugaya freeze Aizen and win against him in this mode?

[@ironmike5539]

@@iurigomes603 that's the thing about aizen he won't engage a battle without a plan, but if he battles this form of hitsugaya spot on, aizen will have a hard time but ima go with aizen still tho 😂

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

@@ironmike5539 We all know how its gonna end. He is gonna flash freeze Hinamori again, that's it. 😆

[@Maxjuliann]

@@iurigomes603 toshiro would be under kyokasuigetsu the moment the battle starts

[@deltasniper0]

My thought since the final form was revealed was that the ice flowers were never a timer for how long Daiguren Hyourinmaru lasts, but how long Toushiro must last to reach the completed state. Before he perfected it he wasn't able to hold on to his Bankai long enough for it to complete, long enough for all the flower petals to fall.

[@TravisAxel]

I think its interesting that you point out when Hitsugaya became zombified his powers became unshackled. Its an easy thing to overlook but when you really think about it the good guys probably restrain themselves in combat a good bit. Much like Superman the good guys are always cautious not to let loose too much or the collateral damage will end up interfering with the core mission. Thats why in the early days they had the limiters placed on them when they first entered Karakura Town. So this dead version of Hitsugaya was relentless and couldnt give a shit about destroying landscapes or harming allies. Even if it was a negative moment we got to see his power. On another note I always considered Hitsugaya to be a pretty weak Captain before the Thousand Year Blood War. Many experienced Captains generally start battles with Shikai and eventually use Bankai as a last resort but Hitsugaya went straight to Bankai for most of his battles. It was as if Hitsugaya was too weak to keep up with his opponents and used Bankai to keep pace with his enemy. However the TYBW arc turns this flat on its face because he does actually keep pace with the Quincy with his Shikai. On top of that he manages to find a new level of power with his Bankais Adult form and manages to survive Gerards assault while appearing like he was an equal asset in battle to Byakuya and Kenpachi. And that is without Royal Guard training, that should be impressive enough. So his overall performance is pretty haphazard but he develops quite nicely in the end. He really seems to be a completely different person from the Hitsugaya from Fake Karakura Town.

[@raaam1]

"Imagine if he had been taken to the royal palace" 🤯🤯🤯

[@bankin3119]

I always felt being the youngest, and having ice powers…he was the opposite of Yama…so I expected his bankai to eventually get to yamas level

[@xenoemblem7]

Well, I can't imagine the *ice* version of Shigekuni Yamamoto's bankai wouldn't be strong. And Toshiro Hitsugaya is young and he's already plenty strong

[@ValorShincie]

In the hell arc I hope they expand this. I’d love to see him being able to use his Full Bankai’s abilities in his Incomplete Bankai form. Something where he could use a flash freeze but it it consumes a flower blocking him from entering true bankai for a while. But allowing him to be more versatile in a more sustainable form.

[@Terradragoon]

I think Hitsugaya vs Rukia is an interesting study of mundane vs magic in the Bleach universe. Rukia's temperature manipulation is a very mundane type (able to freeze by temperature change and affect the world through such sudden, drastic changes) while Hitsugaya's is heavily on the magic side (dragon motif, able to freeze what isn't a state of matter such as light or, presumably, reishi, ability to nullify other abilities through ice in a way that isn't "the other guy's dead so he can't activate it anymore", etc)

[@hexon336]

Something I would love to see but probably never will are side stories of shinigami and their relationship with their zanpakuto. How each captain obtain their bankai and their inner world would be amazing in further developing their character and seeing how zanpakuto sprits can further interact with their wielder. Hitsugaya and his ice petals are probably something that him and his spirit agreed upon to limit his powers until he's ready to use them. There's Shunsui and how he was able to create a second spirit with his main one. I would love to see Kenpachi interact with the adult version of his zan spirit.

[@SleepyKurisu]

As much as it has already been shown in the series I want to see Ichigos inner world again purely because I wonder if it has undergone a physical change since he now fully understands his zanpaktou and powers

[@darknesswave100]

I'd like to see just how Yoroichi interacts with hers. Cause she basically told hers that she doesn't want it

[@jaredmn8580]

The potential for Hitsugaya is insane, he definitely has a bright future.

[@gammafrost]

I’m hoping he uses his completed Bankai more during the hell arc whenever kubo resumes drawing it.

[@protectedsouls415]

he's admitted his lifespan got cut down significantly by Mayuri to dezombify

[@ednamodee]

his matured bankai is probably the most broken one we’ve seen so far cause the ability to freeze concepts is crazyyy

[@GodlyDra]

The BANKAI of ichibei is still more broken solely because names are almost the end all be all of bleach.

[@zacharywilson419]

In theory the ice should be able to stop the power of names since it stops even concepts like hope making it the most op power in bleach

[@GodlyDra]

@@zacharywilson419 That would be fair in most universes, but in bleach ichibei could 100% cut the word hope and remove it from existence if he so desired. The only ability above it is the almighty and we all know how bs that is which makes the power of names the most broken bankai type ability.

[@zacharywilson419]

@GodlyDra that's a fair point. I was just saying that based on what we are told in theory, it could work the same against Yamamoto, but I'd find it hard to believe his flames would not be able to melt the ice

[@nastyakirillova3530]

Could you explain what it means to "freeze concepts"? I didn't quite understand this point. He can freeze fire, air, can he freeze reiatsu?

[@TheDBLANCHARD]

Toshiro fights aizen(one of the strongest beings) gin (prodigy) hailibel (#3 espada) bazz b & can du ( high up sternritters) mayuri (psyco mastermind) and gerard (elite soldier) , none of toshiros opponents are weak not to mention him fighting alongside kenpachi in regai arc and holding back old man yama banaki in zunpukto arc , toshiro deserves his praise

[@joels5150]

Another point in which Mayuri is MVP for saving Toshiro from Zombification 😬

[@andy456l1]

His life span was cut though😢

[@Drakuma35]

@@andy456l1whatever that means, Yama was well over 2000 years old, lifespans have never really mattered

[@CoronaAleks]

​@@andy456l1how much by though

[@JohnGlow2]

@@andy456l1We’ve never heard of souls dying of old age, and also with Mayuri and Kisuke working together, there’s no way they’d just let a heavy hitter wither away without attempting to stop it. I think he’ll be fine.

[@martakavaliauskaite4566]

​@@JohnGlow2totally agree

[@thatonetemplar]

I've BEEN saying almost word for word these kinds of points about Toshiro ever since the manga ended. People like to shit on him for his consistent string of losses, and would ignore me when i brought up his future and his journey. It's validating to see you prove me right all those years 😅 Toshiro is definitely Head Captain material. After Shunsui? Probably not - depends how long Shunsui occupies the role. But he's intelligent, powerful and crucially embodies the tolerant and merciful future that the Seireitei is heading towards, with Yamamoto representing their bloody past and Shunsui representing a mix of them both.

[@The_Bashar]

As I understand it, before completion, he would have failed to wield his true bankai and thus seriously injured. It's canonically proven that Bankais are dangerous and can be treacherous to their wielders.

[@JayRocArt]

I like to think Zombie Hitsugaya and maybe even hollow Ichigo are a glimpse into how brutal the original 13 Captains were in battle. No 'honor' only hands 🤣👊🤛🤜

[@Gration_]

His words to Byakuya are still true, technically, though. HE never said anything about his bankai ending if the petals fall, and no one's ever really seen it happen. It's all speculation on everyone's part. If nothing else it suggests that he just can't handle the power it gives, and thus it doesn't technically end, but such a rush of power hurts him and maybe takes him out of the fight. So the aarancar wasn't exactly right when he said it represents how much energy he has left, and thus it doesn't contradict either of them.

[@khadz1705]

It's a good thing though. That puts him in the category of the best because he didn't need to use his adult form bankai in his fights until the boss villain appeared. If you look at it well, few were those who didn't show their full power by the end of he story. Those who finally showed full power did make a difference. We've got Shunsui, zaraki ichigo, kisuke and Hitsugaya who did great damage with their real bankai. Not counting newly acquired ones and those that got boosted by zero division (Rukia / Byakuya /Renji) as they didn't purposely hide their powers.

[@SbibbyDuck]

Hitsugaya going to the royal palace would have been massive

[@0eyes]

Him going to the Royal Palace would be only to increase his reiatsu with Kirio.

[@corruptangel6793]

What do you mean by Cang Du wasnt really injured by Toshiro's hollowfied bankai? BG9 literally says their Volsterndig brought them back to life when pleading their case to Haschwalth. Toshiro and Soi-Fon KILLED their opponents with their respective Bankai but they got revived.

[@Grayson-Winchester]

Hitsugaya was like Ichigo and Renji using a halfbaked Bankai most of the series. I'm certain if Toshiro would have been training in Reiōkyū with Ichigo and the others, we wouldn't have had this Bazz-B, Giselle dilemma. Regardless if Chang Du still had his Bankai he would have one-shotted him and retrieve it afterwards. Though the hollowfication was cool and all it wasn't enough to protect himself and his lieutenant. Can you imagine how many funny scenes we would have gotten with Toshiro and the others in the hot spring, the dining table and the closet? This was the opportunity to fully utilize this character.

[@RFDN0]

I honestly do not know how much Toshiro actually would have gained from royal realm training. He always has had a strong connection with his Zanpatou, unlike Ichigo, Renji, and Byakuka, which were shown to have, although in different ways. He has good levels of spirit pressure, so Hikafune's aid would be minimal. His physical issues would not have been fixed by the hot springs as those are directly connected to his age, so really, the only real aid he would get would be Oken clothing... which wouldn't have factored much for the fights he was in. Really, for him to progress any further, it is just widening his skill set and preping his body to handle his full potential.

[@jocoolshow]

To put it in perspective, Byakuya and Kenpachi got special training to become the strongest captains at the end of the war while Toshiro only did normal average training and is standing at the same level as them Toshiro with Squad 0 training would probably be in the same ballpark as CFYOW Kenpachi give or take as CFYOW Kenny is just TYBW Kenny with at most 6 months of training + Kenny’s infamous revived from near death boost after the Gerard fight

[@jocoolshow]

⁠​⁠@@RFDN0Toshiro always had a good connection, but so did Byakuya, who had been with his zanpakuto longer than Toshiro and had mastered his Bankai already prior to going to the 0 Squad Fullbring Bankai Ichigo had enough reiatsu to damage Yhwach and blow off his Blut, and Byakuya should at the very least have similar Reiatsu to Toshiro, if not more, at the beginning of the war. Hot springs are for healing and purifying the spiritual energy. You also didn’t take into account the physical training that Oetsu and Ichibei give At the very least, Toshiro should’ve probably gotten a boost proportionate to the boost that Byakuya got as well as being able to use his Mature Bankai at will, and considering the fact that he was already on the same level as Byakuya and Kenpachi at the end of the war, with a proportionate boost to what Byakuya got, he would’ve been head and shoulders over even Byakuya and Kenny

[@Grayson-Winchester]

​@@jocoolshowthis is exactly what I'm talking about. He was like Ichigo "reverting to his roots". It be a great chance to finally get to know him better as a character because the praised prodigy always felt kinda underwhelming.

[@RFDN0]

@jocoolshow Honestly, I don't think Byakuya got much of a boost overall. His main boosts were better control of his Shikai... which Toshiro already had, full access to his bankai (one move), which is adult Hitsuguya and really the Oken cloth. Renji and Rukia got physically stronger under Ichibe because they were getting used to that level of spiritual pressure, which other captian level fighters (Ichigo) had no issue with. We know the baths gave Ichigo a physical buff, but honestly, not the full extent, nor do we know how much his soul king prep training buffed him either. Both Ichigo and Renji had their full potential held back from them via their Zanpatou spirits which doesn't apply here. So honestly knowing Toshiro already has full access to his bankai (via timer mechanic) arguably little he could develop physically without aging and the arguably negligible buff to his raw spiritual energy being off the table I don't think he would grow much or at all from Zero division training in under a week.

[@Catalyst375]

Perhaps it is cynical to say, but Toshiro's Complete Bankai can be said to render any future development of Hakka no Togame irrelevant. Though, it might have been the case ever since Sode no Shirayuki was revealed, as Hyorinmaru was already established as the strongest Ice type Zanpakuto. It's demonstrated in the Complete Bankai's power alone. It does everything Sode no Shirayuki's true power and Hakka no Togame can do, and does it better without any drawbacks whatsoever.

[@rayden54]

Rukia's greatest weakness is that she's got an ice type Zanpakuto and we've been repeatedly told that his is the strongest ice type Zanpakuto. We also see how ineffective his ice is on most enemies (they just break out of it) which means she's utterly screwed.

[@johndinh2913]

I think Rukia’s is stronger in terms of pure freezing power. Toshiro is the stronger bankai prob losing not too far in terms of freezing power but his has more variety and usefulness where Rukia is basically one shot

[@haziq3595]

​@@johndinh2913he can freeze concepts bro 🤣

[@allPodd]

@@rayden54 Rukia's is more just cold/temperature b/c she talked about absolute zero and molecules and shit lol But Hitsugaya's is more magic-based. He's just out here freezing concepts. They might both have their places.

[@christopherg2347]

His Bankai is a bit like Ikkakus. In that it takes time to fully activate. The difference is that prior to TYBW, his body could not take the Bankai fully activating. In fact, what if he created those petals to _actively delay_ it fully activating? He still had his "training petals on" so to speak. On the other hand, maybe it is like a frozen mirror of Yamamotos Bankai? In that it is too destructive for him to control? In every battle he used it, collateral damage was a consideration.

[@allPodd]

Nice pun ha

[@KayzarousOfficial]

I can see toshiro being one of the big players for the hell arc.

[@derekrichardson7853]

I think Kubo made Toshiro out to be the ice equivalent of Yamamoto. With enough time he’ll be as strong as him and have a variety of different attacks too.

[@Iondaime100]

imagine hytsugaya was picked to be trained by the division zero with his crazy potential

[@cattoduke6286]

Souls' look can be deceiving, but adult Toshiro looks like early 20s in human age at most, which is not even close to most characters' prime. Daiguren Hyoinmaru is completed, but there are still more rooms for it to grow even further.

[@ericm5315]

Ice constructs maybe? And much greater range, power and scale of his existing ones? Completes imo means you're not going to find too much more, just expand on the use of whatever's there.

[@Blade12113]

I always assumed why Hitsugaya would be gravely injured when the last petal shattered is because his body wasn't able to handle the power or transformation. So his body would rupture in some day instead

[@JohnGlow2]

Kind of like Gremmy and Kenpachi’s bodies not being able to handle theirs

[@darknesswave100]

You'd think Hyorinmaru would tell him that since they have basically a symbiotic relationship in a way. Sort of a self preservation idea. Like oh if you use your matured state your body can't handle it so don't do it or you'll basically go kaboom

[@JohnGlow2]

⁠@@darknesswave100Perhaps, but you also gotta remember that Zanpakuto withold information from their users at times if they deem the knowledge potentially harmful, like Tensa Zangetsu not telling Ichigo about the FGT. Odds are, Hyorinmaru telling him that he has access to this powerful form, that he must gain more experience to use might lead him to utilize the form out of desperation and frustration, thus further wounding himself. Probably wasnt a good idea until he felt Toshiro had grown to a level headed enough position to handle it. And judging by his outbursts earlier in the series, this is probably for the better.

[@martakavaliauskaite4566]

Exactly

[@harbinger794]

He was used to highlight other characters for much of the TYBW (Bazz B, Giselle, Mayuri) but that final fight against Gerard is one of the most badass fights in the series so thankfully Kubo made it up to him

[@doubledads4965]

You ever wonder how much more effective his Bankai would be if he teamed up with Rukia’s temperature control to amplify his ice?

[@caseyhart4999]

It would be totally broken haha I’ve wondered about it many times myself.

[@gammafrost]

Now that you mention it I hope he and rukia do some like that in the hell arc 😂😂😂. Better yet add Isane in there if possible. The release command for her zanpakuto hints it’s ice related.

[@MaigenMaylight]

I would LOVE to see a Hitsugaya vs. Yamamoto fight in the Hell arc. That would be so interesting.

[@TheDBLANCHARD]

It would make sense, in the zunpukto rebellion arc he was the one to to stall old man Yama bankai

[@thatonetemplar]

Yamamoto wins that one I fear, but Toshiro could definitely stall his Bankai if he had his own at full power

[@kentanderson2071]

@@thatonetemplar but it’s interesting bc would toshiro be able to even do his abilities with Yamamotos bankai active? Toshiro abilities freezes the water in the atmosphere, so if yamma dries out the moisture in the air would toshiro actually be able to use any of his powers? 🤔

[@thatonetemplar]

@kentanderson2071 I think in complete Bankai he can. He isn't limited to just water in his full power, and even if he were, some abilities of his are useable without it, like his sword eliminating concepts and abilities

[@kentanderson2071]

@@thatonetemplar I guess thats reasonable but a battle between soul reapers is battle between spiritual pressures so I wonder if flash freeze would actually work with someone with higher spiritual pressure.

[@fletchlad82D]

Your second list rank is almost matching with mine however I have toshiro at 3rd/2nd and Mayuri at 4 and kuckiki at 5th Toshiro mature bankai form if his gains full mastery he can truly without trying freeze a realm within an instance due to his abilities within that mature form. Well he could, my theory anyway . I know basically everything about toshiro due to him being my favourite character within bleach.

[@dustinb4286]

Adult Hitsugaya is Yamamoto tier - fight me.

[@OctavianAsix]

This is known faxx🥂

[@typeouetco1626]

I always thought the way his true bankai worked was that he needed to wait until he is weakened enough to release it without overburdening his own body, so the more he would train, the less he would need to fight to achieve adult form, the stronger he would be and the more stamina he would have

[@CaptainKotetsu]

Toshiro’s final form made him taller. He pulled a reverse Frieza lol.

[@nicogmv2364]

I think Toshiro got that strong by the end of the war(not counting his bankai abilities) thanks to "Zenkai Boosts". It was said that the closer Shinigamis are to die, the stronger they become. Shinigamis are basically Saiyans and Hitsugaya was a rag doll during the war.

[@alvaronavarrogavino6825]

I see him taking the role of Head Captain at some point, maybe after Kyoraku's death in Hell Arc. There are interesting characters for that role as Kurotsuchi, but it is between him and Byakuya for me.

[@ragnabolt683]

Kyoraku dying in the Hell arc is way too premature. He is nowhere near weak enough to be taken out that quickly. His reign would’ve been only 10+ years. That’s weak and does nothing for the story.

[@khadz1705]

I don't want to see Shunsui die so pointlessly. He needs to live a long life as a Head Captain. His chill yet responsible personality is exactly what Gotei 13 needs in order to transcend to the next era. I would love to see either Byakuya or Tishiro as captains since I think they are the most fit for the position after Shunsui but it doesn't have to be so early.

[@vapor.6292]

If Shunsei died during the Hell arc, I think Byakuya would rightfully be next. Given time Toshiro would be perfect for the role, but currently I don't think he'd be ready for it

[@umarmaaji630]

All the captains that took a liking to ichigo have gained a massive power up. Except for shinji.

[@skreyao4898]

mayuri must be in love with Ichigo then 😂

[@ericm5315]

Shinji was always super broken, problem is he explains his power and has a bankai that's actively detrimental to him if he has any allies in range.

[@doginababyseat5127]

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[@metalhead6662]

All Kubo had to do was chuck Toshiro into the Dangai, which is safe now cuz Aizen blew up the Cleaner, and train there until the Second Invasion. Time dilation for the win. Dramatic entrance, adult Toshiro saving Rangiku from Bazz B or something.

[@Psychoveliatonet]

Love the addition of the Klub Outside commentary! Great analysis of the character, too.

[@daviddemosthenes7986]

I love this solo sampled sponsored video! This was probably the most fun video Ive seen you've had (outside of live episode reactions). You have a real future in foodie reviews! Well done! 14:17

[@Impkingj]

Maybe there used to be a drawback for accessing the true bankai before the tybw but once he mastered it the risk was mitigated. Or he just didn’t want to reveal his ultimate trump card needlessly so he always tried to wrap his fights up before the petals shattered.

[@XFG_Official]

Royal Palace Adult Toshiro would unironically maybe actually be full power Yamamoto tier.

[@cian239]

I mean you could say that about any character with royal palace power imagine royal aizen or kenpachi

[@XFG_Official]

@@cian239 Kenpachi could too, because he's in a weirdly similar position to Ichigo where he's effectively just now reaching a point where he can grow on his potential. Aizen though, strangely enough I don't know if there's anything the Zero Division could offer him at this point, except maybe just have the Hogyoku push him even further still then it had passively during the time skip. Because he's already fused with Suigetsu, so I don't know if he could further his bond with his zanpakuto like everyone else that got RG training did.

[@cian239]

@@XFG_Official yeah that’s valid about aizen. Yamamoto with royal guard training could have been the natural born shinigami ever besides Aizen tho

[@ericm5315]

He'd probably up his temperature to theoretical temperature levels, kind of like Rukia. They're basically opposites.@@cian239

[@LightrazerDD]

Kubo def treats Hitsugaya like Ichigo. Toshiro doesnt get basically offscreened or caught off guard in his fights, and he reminds me of Ichigo in the Arrancar arc where Kubo is not afraid to have him brutally lose his fights.

[@JohnGlow2]

Considering that Toshiro was also in Ichigo’s dad’s squad, and Isshin also treated Toshiro like a son initially, I think that’s the parallel we’re supposed to draw actually. And Kubo also mentions that Hitsugaya was one of the first characters he created, and his bankai was one of the ones he spent the most time working with and that he had always intended to have his adult powers showcased. I think Tommo said it a while ago but it almost feels like he’s supposed to be the series’ second protagonist, told from a different viewpoint of course. Couple in the fact that he has his own movie and he and Ichigo (along with Rukia) have historically been neck in neck topping the polls, and suddenly his presence makes more sense.

[@TheDonovanMcCormick]

Toshiro is a lot stronger than he appears in the series based on his Zombie fight like you alluded to. It’s kind of like when Ichigo goes full hollow. They both are as strong as they appear in those forms all the time it’s just their disposition and worldview prevent them from fighting at that potential while in their normal state of mind. Hitsugaya seems to be held back moreso than Ichigo though based on his lack of experience and killer instinct which is kind of strange considering he’s obviously much older than Ichigo and, being a captain, should be ruthless when facing enemies of Gotei. Also crazy that Toshiro while fighting Aizen could just flash freeze all around him Bambietta style and if he hit KS it would render the illusion null and void. That ability gives him the capability to beat any shinigami or arrancar by just flash freezing their zanpakuto rendering them unable to activate their powers.

[@9thhokagegoku671]

i think the true bankai wasn’t even at full strength wait till adult toshiro when he uses his bankai is just toshiro who can use bankai. he’s easily gonna be top 3 behind ichigo kenpachi if we talking pure potential .

[@MidnightDB]

Damn man, you're killing it with the uploads this week. I love it though; your content keeps BLEACH in my life during the long stretch between anime seasons~

[@chadthomas7820]

Hitsugaya is my favorite captain and has one of my favorite powers and abilities ice I just wish hitsugaya could have kept that hollow bankai look because kubo went out the way to make his bankai different while the other captains didn't even show any hollow in there designs so yeah hitsugaya for the win and also his hollow bankai is my PSN profile picture

[@BlinkSh0t]

@19:50 If I remember correctly, in that very fight against Shawlong, Hitsugaya allow his petals to elapse and after killing the former, the collapsed in after blood sprayed from his body and was injured. I think that was the hint to his bankai having more too it.

[@mastertucker]

Been saying the same forever but just imagine a head captain Hitsugaya. Like Yamamoto at many times Hitsugaya's age 1000 years ago had this peak fire bankai thought to be his fully developed power. Hitsugaya actually getting to the age of his awakened Bankai let alone flashback Yamamoto is a crazy thought, but even then after 1000 years his Bankai developed more and so would Hitsugaya's as an old man as well.

[@Serger989]

Hitsugaya will definitely be the one to be captain commander after Shunsui, with zanpakto power comparable to Yamamoto but ice instead of fire. Kenpachi will always be the physically strongest, but Hitsugaya has the mindset to actually lead the Gotei 13 with overwhelming power in his zanpakto.

[@marshal8358]

Man if you made a channel reviewing sweets and little things id watch it in a heartbeat. You are the only person i dont skip ads on.

[@RiceBROS90]

Toshiro is, always has been, and always will be my favorite character in Bleach. From his design, his abilities, his potential, and his relationship with others I just love him. I’ll never understand the hate for him

[@JohnGlow2]

Its simply because of the fact he’s popular despite not dominating his opponents, and he has a huge fanboy/ fangirl population. That’s really it, a victim of his own popularity. But that happens with every pretty boy character with cool abilities, so its not too shocking. Petty yes, shocking no. Levi had the same initial reaction where he had haters who would try to discredit and slander his character until Isayama continued developing the character to the point his skill was undeniable.

[@rogue1248]

it probably still has a long way to go, if he can't full activate it by the time he is older, Toshiro can actually live up to his name.

[@martakavaliauskaite4566]

Loved it verry deep analysis of toshiro abilitys and character

[@ulkucutoushirou]

In episode 121, Shawlong asks him what will happen when the ice flowers melt, and Toushiro brushes it off. Later, when the power limitation was lifted, Toshirou used a ryusenka and the ice flowers were melted at that moment. Later, even though Shawlong did nothing to him, his body is destroyed and he is seriously injured. After using mature Bankai, Byakuya asks him "How are you still in one piece?" . The reason why Toshirou had as many ice flowers as tybw arc or couldn't use them fully was because Toushiro's body couldn't stand it, you can think of it as Keny's arm being shattered. After all, Toshirou is still a child. He will grow up a little more and will be able to use his Bankain in mature form at all times. He is the Yamaji of the future

[@ericm5315]

Kang was just hard countered by Hitsu, terrible matchup for him. Sometimes it happens in Bleach, Kira vs that bird dude is another example...or Momo vs the G13 lol.

[@doginababyseat5127]

Cang seriously was a head scratcher for why he got matched with the ice elemental captain. Should have been matched with Soi Fon.

[@jocoolshow]

Toshiro is extremely powerful and underrated. Post Zombie, Toshiro’s Shikai was able to stop a full on punch from God Size Gerard. The same Gerard that was able to one shot people as strong as Renji and Rukia (who scale to Bazz B) by literally blowing air at them, and was strong enough to sway away a causal Byakuya’s Bankai petals. Toshiro’s Shikai ice is strong enough to stop the force/momentum of this version of Gerard. In his Immature Bankai, he’s fast enough to fight Gerard 1 v 1 and not get tagged (the same Gerard that was fast enough to hit no eyepatch Shikai Kenny when Kenpachi was trying to dodge) In terms of physical strength and durability he’s able to parry/block hits from God Size Gerard and no eyepatch Shikai Kenpachi and take hits from God Size and Vollstandig Gerard that were meant to kill In terms of AP, with a fully charged attack (that’s not amped by Tenso Jurin) he’s got enough reiatsu/power to freeze God Size Gerard to the bone, with this Gerard being relative to or above Shikai Kenny in terms of strength Mature Bankai Toshiro’s physical strength with a one handed casual swing is high enough to one shot the Hope Sword Vollstandig Gerard who’s Miracle Amped by Bankai Kenny’s power. We know Spirit Weapons in Bleach can block attacks that can one shot the user, so Toshiro’s physical strength is one shot levels over a Vollstandig + Bankai Kenny amped Gerard. Toshiro’s durability scales to his strength, but feats wise he can survive this version of Gerard trying to crush him. Speed wise he’s able to solidly outpace this version of Gerard and hit him before Gerard can even let off attacks of his own. And AP wise, he can freeze this version of Gerard to the bone as well as negate hax stemming from the Soul King’s Heart itself And on top of that he has the stats to fight Final Form Gerard as well who’s ridiculously stronger than Vollstandig Gerard Miracle Amped by Bankai Kenny You could say he’s stronger than any other captain in the TYBW and is second to Kenpachi in CFYOW, since even that novel considers Toshiro (and Byakuya) strong enough to assist Ichigo with a threat that was perceived to be something Ichigo couldn’t beat on his own, and Narita purposefully wrote Toshiro out of the conflict with Hikone

[@jefki2626]

U😮

[@ericm5315]

One thing, he failed to negate Gerard's Miracle. Otherwise sound opinion. 👍

[@bleach_932]

​​@@ericm5315 Maybe in the anime that will change. After seeing Senjumaru's bankai and how Gerard was frozen in sheets that did not allow him to use his power again, sealing him forever, maybe it's an omen and it's Toshiro who will defeated him by denying "Miracle" and killing him.

[@nightlypiano4116]

So Toshiro only got to use his CQC training on Ikkaku and Yumichika. Those poor fools...

[@datasocra]

you have one of my favorite voices on KZbin I swear bro

[@joshchacko7729]

So kind for alerting of the spoiler alert

[@rayden54]

I'm not sure the royal palace would've helped. He'd still run into the same problem he has now: how body simply isn't up to the task. He needs a Hyperbolic Time Chamber or something like that. Actually... Can Urahara do for him what he did for Nel?

[@mashun9976]

I think you should do a ranking of all the shinigami in strength. including squad 0 and urahara and yoruichi.

[@khadz1705]

No need to include squad zero, they are universe level each based on anime so they would take the first rankings.

[@CaptainKotetsu]

Imagine if every captain and lieutenant knew what a True Bankai was from the start and actually tried to achieve it for themselves.

[@RFDN0]

They do know what a true Bankai is. The question is if they can truly master their bankai. The characters we have seen who arguably have truly mastered their Bankais are monsters. There is no question about that, but using Ichigo as an example from Soul Society Arc to Deucide Arc, we see the journey of a person mastering their bankai. They learn their limits, they figure out details they previously didn't understand about what they can do and how those can be used. Eventually a character will get to the level of understanding and skill with their bankai like Yamamoto did, and they must both fight without it in ways that complement it when used.

[@pepeelghetto1231]

There is no such a thing as a true bankai xd, just bankai

[@darknesswave100]

There's not really a true bankai. There's just their bankai. In the case of say Renji it was his zanpakuto not respecting him that caused it. Which could be called a false bankai and when he gained that respect he unlocked the bankai he was supposed to have all along. In Hitsugaya's case he still uses Daiguren Hyorinmaru in his adult state. So it's not his true bankai. It's just how it looks if he was an adult and had more power

[@nightshadow0034]

Could it be that toshiro said that his bankai would not fail because he thought that he was too weak for his completed bankai due to the damage he would receive before the TYBW and that's why he says that he never said that the bankai would fail rather he thought he was the one failing and mastering his bankai was almost similar to strengthening his body enough to handle the bankai 🤷thats why his bankai forcefully ages him too

[@Just_Red_]

I feel like Toshiro gets downplayed a lot because he never really kills anyone, but despite that I've always thought it impressive that despite being the youngest captain he always seems to go toe to toe against big important threats.

[@skreyao4898]

Kill? he doesn't need to kill, he just needs a solid win against real tough opponents.. sadly, he never get to reach that latter part.. He always lose in a battle, kinda acting like a captain level punching bag.. and when he does win, it's always against "meeeh" opponents like cang du.. like who tf is cang du? that guy's trash.. at least with Byakuya he won against 3 mid ass sternritters alone while Hitsugaya barely win against 1 mid sternritters.. hence why there's a demand to put Byakuya on at least top 3-4 even tho i cant see how Byakuya could ever defeat Mayuri, but that's a different discussion.

[@zacharywilson419]

Just a thought combining ideas from others in the comments, but i wonder he he activates bankai at the beginning of his fights with the idea that if it takes too long, his unleashed form would come out. Also, he could have had the power all this time, and his body just wouldn't be able to handle the sunden spike in power like kenpachi.

[@bboye.musical9349]

I loved that he kept that a secret. It parallels the man he hates most - Aizen.

[@sopanhaleng8644]

Now i wonder who would win when both Hitsugaya and Rukia fight with there complete Bankai.

[@badrelyousfi7553]

Toshiro no diff

[@khadz1705]

2 people here trying to start a debate. 😂 Where are the Rukia fans?

[@rhettguthrie1998]

I think toshiro full adult, zanpakuto would be like his "normal" bankai. And his bankai would be the adult power we see.

[@LeoLikesLamb]

Your videos butter My biscuits thank you

[@xPepe1310]

toshiro already stronger than shunsui. considering how young he is. he beats anyone in 100 years.

[@cian239]

Toshiro is not stronger than Shunsui? Where did you get this. Even in adult form he’d still be trapped by the rules of Shunsui’s bankai

[@xPepe1310]

@@cian239 he freezes all matter. He freezes the rules lol. He can change the environment just like yamamoto and we only saw him use it once. At this point the first act is useless since toshiro doesnt even need to inflict wounds he would just straight up freeze him. He doesnt have the miracle power like gerard so i dont think shunsui surviving that. The freezing part of toshiros adult form has no limits as shown when he fought gerard. Some of the craziest feats accomplished then. + he was carrying that fight since he was also holding the whole structure

[@ThatGUY666666]

I would have to say I agree with pretty much everything you say in this video. If Hitsugaya had gone to the royal court, I think there is a very real possibility he might have come back as the strongest Captain of the end series Gotei 13. If we ever get a full on Hell arc I think there is a possibility he could still take the position even if Kyoraku, Kenpachi, and Byakuya make it through as strong as ever. All that said Kubo's overall handling of Hitsugaya was very weird. On the one hand he got more screen time than most of the Captains and was clearly one of the most powerful Captains at the end of the series. Yet with the exception of his fight against that kid in the Fullbring-Arc, everyone of Hitsugaya's victories and feats were largely undermined one way or another by Kubo's writing choices. It honestly it reminded me a lot of how Kishimoto handled Sakura in Naruto though not to the same extreme.

[@thatonetemplar]

I think Kubo was very mindful of Toshiro's age and inexperience relative to his peers, but was fond of the character at the same time. So he didn't want to undermine the power of the other Captains by having this kid be on their same level of mastery That's just my guess

[@ThatGUY666666]

@@thatonetemplar You could very well be onto something. Still if we ever get a Hell Arc, I think Hitsugaya desperately needs to rack up some wins and feats and not have them undermined or rendered meaningless. If not for how Kishimoto handled Sakura in Naruto, I would probably call this phenomenon "the Hitsugaya effect".

[@thatonetemplar]

@ThatGUY666666 The only reason I doubt Toshiro will be very important to the arc is because he doesn't really have anyone important to him who's dead. Not even his greatest enemy (Aizen). I imagine the Hell arc would more heavily involve those close to the deceased. Rukia meeting Kaien, Byakuya meeting his grandfather or other Kuchiki, Shunsui meeting Ukitake, etc.

[@draghettis6524]

The Sponsor segment is misindicated. It ends at 16:09, not 17:59

[@darknesswave100]

Ive never understood the line Hitsugaya says about not liking his adult form. Its essentially him being forced into an adult. Does he not want to grow up? Seems like an odd thing to say regarding a more powerful state. Guess he doesnt like having to be forcibly aged to handle his full power which could be understandable since he could take it as hes not mature enough to handle it

[@martakavaliauskaite4566]

Exactly it is like kempachi bankai it takes huge tool on his body

[@CrazyFoo501]

As a guy who's favorite character is Shunsui I think Kenpachi, Byakuya, and Hitsugaya in his adult form are all more powerful than Shunsui. Of course Shunsui makes up for power in shrewdness and doing whatever it takes to win in a way somewhat similar Mayuri.

[@khadz1705]

I think they're in the same league. How you use your abilities is as important as the abilities themselves. Besides, each zenpakuto is tailored for its user.

[@ailaxl]

Who’s winning: Adult bankai Hitsugaya, bankai Shunsui, or pre-hogyoku Aizen with his sword but NOT using illusions?

[@OfficialDarkSoulMusic]

Gummies and chocolate are the two best kinds of candy. You're a man of taste.

[@admiralaokiji7889]

imo when hitsugaya reaches his peak he will be on another level. Only behind yammamoto imo and he will surpass the rest. It only makes sense with fire and ice. He will be the next head captain and even shunsui says he will surpass himself in the future. I think he will be an all time shinigami only after royal gaurds, aizen, ichigo, aizen

[@jolodefensor4509]

I think that Hitsugaya already has access to this form from early on, but his body is incapable of handling the power, much like Rukia's where it damages her. Which is why through training, this is what he and Hyorinmaru kind of decided to do in order for him to handle the power of his completed bankai.

[@xavierhawkins3121]

6 mins for an ad is insane

[@patr7240]

Anybody else thinking they'd watch tomo just do a video on unboxing and trying different Japanese sweets?

[@mrgreen9086]

Zombie hitsugaya is still my favorite version

[@OctavianAsix]

Yeah man, loved the dark skin energy But I'm biased 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@jordanbert5558]

Head captain but the ice version woohoo

[@Tha_Monsta88]

When the head captain died. It got really cold..

[@anirule6833]

Honestly I feel like he is strong enough to potentially be placed in the special war powers. Sure he is still young now, but he's a captain for a reason and his fully matured hyorinmaru was to able to freeze Gerald and all of his abilities in its track. Like that’s a big deal. Hell even Shunsui said he'll surpass in 100 years. I feel like it’s downplayed due to the fact how less experienced he is with his power and tends to hold back a lot

[@nobleactual7693]

I would disagree. The criteria to be a special war power is to have a trait with the potential to turn the tide of the war, in favor of the Shinigami. Ichigo had his limitless potential, Aizen had his unbelievable reiatsu, Ichibe had his vast knowledge, Urahara had his incredible resourcefulness/innovation, and Kenpachi had his immense strength (I would argue Kenpachi's strength really didn't do much to turn the tide of the war, though I suppose effortlessly destroying a meteor that would flatten Soul Society could count for something). What trait does an adult-Hitsugaya have that could change the course of the war? It's true that he is now a powerhouse with a broken, power-cancelling ability, but I don't really see what "trait" he would have that would elevate him to a special war power.

[@0eyes]

@@nobleactual7693 Kenpachi killed the most Sternritter and Yhwach probably knew that he didn't have shikai or bankai at the time, so he's dangerous.

[@ladrellhart2063]

I agree 100% Mr.Tommo

[@bkgocrazy6607]

I think the hollow spirit energyof the bankai weakened both Cang Du and BG9 which is why they got one shotted

[@SleepyKurisu]

I feel like adult hitsugaya, currently and when he eventually gets to that age could arguably be stronger then at least Byakuya depending on if he can freeze Senbonzakura's petals meanwhile I think Zaraki is just too strong for Hitsugaya's Ice to hold him back and the perfect captain keeping the top and below balanced is always Mayuri because his new bankai is a problem for the bottom ranks but he could easily be beat before getting a chance to use it by the top ranks

[@badrelyousfi7553]

Adult toshiro strongest captain

[@scottohare7863]

I always assumed he had the adult form prior to TYBW but couldn’t control/maintain it. Hence why he had to undergo further training to ‘master’ his bankai.

[@marlondalli2895]

Love your vids

[@IRenegadEEEEE]

Hitsugaya is stronger than Mayuri and arguably stronger than Byakuya

[@in-craig-ible6160]

I like Toshiro, even if he never defeats his opponents.

[@TheRealAceA]

Now i just want to hear all of MrTommo's thoughts and reactions to all these comments.