A youtube video talking about fairies in touhou. Specifically power scaling. Music used: Easy Vacation by: flap+frog Social(s): Twitter- / fourhash
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@sablesalt2 жыл бұрын
Færies are the lvl.1 goblin of gensokyo, please do not kill them, they will not drop good items
@TheAlmightyGream2 жыл бұрын
They drop P cards and I need those
@zealousmugetsu87772 жыл бұрын
They give free exp thou
@kalimatronix2 жыл бұрын
They drop money in UM thou
@MedsieLovr2 жыл бұрын
SOME FAIRIES DROP GOOD ITEMS INDEED
@arahman562 жыл бұрын
Eh, they'll come back, so whatever.
@VezonTheInsane2 жыл бұрын
No one seems to remember the most dangerous fairy. It was a written story ZUN made. Luna Child. Yukari revealed Luna Child to be not only the first fairy, but the “closest to being a youkai”
@izzymosley19702 жыл бұрын
Touhou is notoriously difficult to use in versus battles because of how vague the statements are and how very few feats the characters actually have it's very difficult to tell how strong they are unless you're doing a vague in lore analysis like this.
@kabrito7522 жыл бұрын
and because of how vague the limits of the characters' powers are
@izzymosley19702 жыл бұрын
@B(.Y.)BIES!! The main issue with touhou power ceiling is the lack of solid feats for versus battles feats are more or less everything alongside statements of course touhou has a lot of statements but very few feats to back them up and because the statements are vague it's very hard to tell the limits of a character's ability.
@akiradkcn2 жыл бұрын
And thats a good thing
@mrsquadbot2 жыл бұрын
@B(.Y.)BIES!! Seija is weak and she is a stage 5 boss meanwhile Sagume is stage 4
@olixx12132 жыл бұрын
@B(.Y.)BIES!! The enemies being stronger for a stage are purely a game element (although most of the time the bosses in later stages are stronger )
@1INBAL2 жыл бұрын
Yukari is very strong. In touhou 7 phantasm Reimu defeat Yukari , In imperishable night stage 4 Marisa defeat Reinu, In 12.8 extra stage Ciron defeat Marisa. Therefore Cirno is the strongest. Also I was sure you were going to break it more like hell fairies and sun flower fairies .
@olixx12132 жыл бұрын
Cirno kinda lose tho (Even if she gave Marisa some trouble)
@Kilo-Kilo-2 жыл бұрын
@@olixx1213 She survived, and that's what matters the most
@olixx12132 жыл бұрын
@@Kilo-Kilo- Eh Marisa really wasn't trying Hell , the lasers are fucking flashlights
@davidlewis672811 ай бұрын
@@olixx1213 yukari wasn't trying against reimu, either, and she had just woken up from hibernation.
@olixx121311 ай бұрын
@@davidlewis6728 No one is really trying Spellcard rules
@Nope_handlesaretrash2 жыл бұрын
Cirno threw hands with a god, she's the untapped potential Sayan fairy
@paigelux48193 ай бұрын
Beerus is gonna want to hear about this one.
@anonymuz7962 жыл бұрын
Cirno in fairy wars and th16 looks like one of the strongest touhou characters - she can freeze danmaku.
@Rabbotic2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Cirno is at least near ClownPiece, and I have two reasons to believe it. The first is her resistance, for a fairy she holds quite long, even in the fighting games, and I know there's the whole spell card rule, but even with that, fairies have no opportunity against most Youkais spell cards. Second is her appearance, this one isn't that important but still, unlike other fairies she has icicles for wings instead of the regular transparent/bug-like ones, this might show that she holds power enough to even modify her looks. Also I like to point out that, she was one of the few that Okina had on mind to become a new servant, since she opened a backdoor on her. Thanks for coming to my KourinTalk
@matrixcom692 жыл бұрын
Summer-Irradiated Cirno is probably comparable to the other main characters. It may not be canon, but with her empowered abilities (even without the back-up dancers) she can go toe to toe with Okina just like the others in that game. It may not be fair to compare empowered Cirno with the others, but its worth taking into consideration her potential when given the extra support.
@GreyVictory15102 жыл бұрын
I think that summarises Cirno pretty well. She has huge potential due to her strong and versitile ability, but she is still limited by her own capacity of streangh as a fairy. Being directly linked to her aspect of nature like all fairies are.
@juaneste46402 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that makes me wonder, what scenenarios and fights are actually canon? Like the Reimu and Marisa fight in IN, who won? or the Reimu and Suika fight (their dialogues are different in both of their stories)
@carloscastellanosdarkeyesi61262 жыл бұрын
The mangas say that every main character fought Okina, so most likely every extra stage in HSiFS happened too
@user-od9zr8qq5d Жыл бұрын
@@juaneste4640 usually raymoo's routes, for the most part
@animate_U Жыл бұрын
@@juaneste4640 Cirno's route has been confirmed in the manga.
@galosryzos89292 жыл бұрын
Don't let Cirno see this video or you will be looking for an opportunity to flee.
@ManuelJRG_2 жыл бұрын
There's just not enough feats in strict sense to be particularly objective with Touhou powerscaling. When half the characters play fair and follow spell card rules and the other half just exploit vague metaphorical abilities and don't even fight, there's no serious feats to take as reference. The pains of power scales...
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
I did what i could with the information available. I doubt i will ever do a power scaling video again because how little statements there are and most of them are very vague.
@offandsphere67882 жыл бұрын
"in strict sense" I SEE YOUR TRICKS
@ManuelJRG_2 жыл бұрын
@@offandsphere6788 I just like the word "In strict sense" a lot I just think it's really striking in a bohemian sorta way 🥲
@seanknox90012 жыл бұрын
As far as I know Reimu is the reason the spell card rules even exist... The yokai made them to avoid dying from her... I do not remember where that info is from but I'm pretty sure is was recorded by our favourite record keeper girl (even though all her info is slightly off and she can't read her own records)
@ManuelJRG_2 жыл бұрын
@@seanknox9001 I don't remember, there's a lot of vague information and you gotta dig into the mangas and other things a bit to even get to it. Allegedly, the previous maiden of Hakurei cut a deal with the sages of Gensokyo, so that the spell card rules could be enforced. Because, as Thomas Hobbes states in his theory, the sovereignty of rules can only be truly enforced by violence. Makes sense I think. Get the sages of Gensokyo to agree to a set of rules, since there is no greater force than them, they have full authority over **everything else.** (I don't think any sage would want to face the rest over breaking the agreement.) And it's just a nice bonus to be able to solve conflict violently, without the risk of destroying everything.
@sataniachya18402 жыл бұрын
well, technically, nature fairies can be the strongest, but only as long as what they represent is stronger, obviously a fairy of a tree or a flower is not going to be very strong if we compare it with other youkai, but if the fairy of time, or energy, or similar (universal things) appears, they should be a monster, because they represent things that govern the universe.
@EstEsreil2 жыл бұрын
considering as light is pretty much everywhere and there are always stars in the sky, shouldn't the three faires (especially star sapphire) be a lot stronger then? this is also considering that light is an expression of energy.
@discordlexia24292 жыл бұрын
@@EstEsreil They *are* a lot stronger. By fairy standards, they're monsters. Not to mention giants.
@PaulonTheBrave2 жыл бұрын
@@discordlexia2429 yeah they are strong by fairy standards but it still disproves that being tied to a more substancale concept doesn't make a fairy all that powerful in the grand scheme of things.
@discordlexia24292 жыл бұрын
@@PaulonTheBrave Well, perhaps, but Cirno at least is comparable to an average youkai and far stronger than a normal human. The thing about a fairy is that it's a dollop of life energy, not a scoop. They can however be tremendously empowered, possibly proportional to the potential of their domain. For instance, the True Potential of Cirno, if she's forced to activate enough of her life energy that it starts burning her, is enough to defeat an elder god. We saw that in HSiFS. Okina's backdoors are clearly stated to bring out the hidden potential of things. Also, Piece is harder to beat than most ancient youkai, with just a little bit of doping. Again, Junko's powers don't do anything more than purify things into their most condensced, truest form. Fairies are life itself, and so are in flux, and while they're weak, they can become strong very easily and are easily affected by all forms of magical meddling. They're also near-totally immortal. That's not a power to underestimate.
@richwang56162 жыл бұрын
Fairies in Touhou are actually pretty powerful. As avatars of nature, they are essentially immortal and will always come back to life as long as their aspect of nature still exists. The only reason they're so easy to beat is because they're f*cking stupid. You can count the all smart fairies (by fairy standards) on one hand. Sunny Milk, whose power is around the meh tier among fairies, can manipulate and refract light. This means she can actually attack at the speed of light. The fact that even other fairies can dodge her light beams shows just how much superior other Touhou characters are, which is part of the reason why fairies are seen as pathetic. Cirno is likely the most powerful fairy in Touhou. She can manipulate cold and is able to freeze literally any danmaku that isn't a laser. In Hisoutensoku, she fought Utsuho inside the Underground Geyser Center, which is connected to a nuclear reactor, and knocked her out for a few seconds. In addition, Cirno's Spell Card "Minus K" shows that her ice can go so far below absolute zero that it creates explosions. So yeah, even the weakest fairies in Touhou are actually pretty powerful, but you don't have to worry about them because they're not that smart to begin with.
@semsot-the-fake2 жыл бұрын
Actually by human or other intelligent species' standarts Cirno -the Cheese Fairy- would be an actual idiot, but by fairy standart she's the hecking genius cause other fairies have even less intelligence(not even compared to newborn children) hence why they "die" thousands unrecognized in mainline games. Possibly with intelligence she's followed by the Three Fairies, Lily White and Daiyousei and possibly can defeat Clownpiece in one-by-one battle since I doubt that Clownpiece's intelligence is the same as her power
@richwang56162 жыл бұрын
@@semsot-the-fake Cirno and the Three Fairies of Light actually at minimum have basic reading skills. Cirno knows math well enough to understand fractions, and the Three Fairies of Light know how business works.
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
Cirno is one of these fictional characters screwed over by the lack of real physics. Causing absolute zero would would technically mean to stop time on a spacial level, which is incredibly broken.
@Koalix-iu6ywКүн бұрын
How can she freeze things to absolute zero since she can't freeze lasers?
@yogsothoth915 Жыл бұрын
Here's a fun thought, Clownpiece is presumably still exactly as good at Spellcard battles as she was in Lolk, her complete confidence in the situation kinda implied she'd always been good, and Spellcard rules mean she doesn't actually need powers to back it up. She could effortlessly solve an insane number of incidents with those skills.
@jianng77952 жыл бұрын
Fairies are kinda like a small rally car. Looks pretty unassuming, doesn't make a ton of power in stock, not exactly the most sophisticated stuff out there. But you can slap a massive turbo on it and let it fly you to the moon, baby.
@markguyton28682 жыл бұрын
Everyone questions the strength of a 2hu fairy, but I question where do all of them get their fancy dresses from? Jokes aside, just like the games, their strength seems to come more through teamwork than individual powers. Still doesn't help them survive a Master Spark though.
@redballoon18002 жыл бұрын
I dont think Junko's purification made Clownpiece stronger in general, it amplified her chaotic "impure" life force, which Lunarians avoid like the plague, so against Lunarians, she is significantly stronger than base.
@olixx12132 жыл бұрын
A fairy is all about life force , so a fairy with its lifeforce amplified is gonna be stronger
@Archedgar2 жыл бұрын
@@olixx1213 When interviewed, Hecatia explicitly says that Clownpiece is strong and not just for a fairy. Do note that Hecatia became the goddess of hell by defeating every other candidate for the position. Being recognized as strong by someone like Hecatia even without Junko amp is a lot more significant than "fairies are all about life force".
@olixx12132 жыл бұрын
@@Archedgar Fairies still draws the power from their life force, so they will be much stronger with their life force amplified The same thing happen in Touhou 16
@Name_23 Жыл бұрын
If Cirno was smarter she would be really strong. That level of ice manipulation is really versatile and could counter or beat a lot of mid-level or even high level youkai. I think Cirno has battle smarts, but her lack of experience kind of gets in the way.
@SamCardCounter2 жыл бұрын
you could dropkick them like they were ewoks but honestly i just wanna give fairies a nice hug
@roberthasudungan15462 жыл бұрын
they can fly and you cannot, so not really
@SamCardCounter2 жыл бұрын
for that it would require them to remember they have wings and can use them to just fly away, which i wouldnt take for granted for the intelligence of the average fairy
@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan2 жыл бұрын
@@SamCardCounter The Three Fairies' daily habit consists of playing danmaku with other fairies, searching for treasures, and pranking Reimu, so yes they do remember they have wings
@Archedgar2 жыл бұрын
B-but muh Clownpiece. 4:16 *"Likely stronger than a regular fairy"* ? uhh...... that's a very interesting way of phrasing that statement.
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
regular hell fairy👍 If we don't have concrete info i won't say she's definetely stronger, don't want to spread misinformation.
@alotosius2 жыл бұрын
Could you adopt fairies? or would they just wander off?
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
I guess it would be possible to attempt adoopting one, the thing with fairies is that they're dumb but not dumb enough for you to not be able to communicate with them, so i guess if you would be able to give them a reason to stay the could, for example the SDM has a ton of fairy maids that work for remilia in exchange for food and a place to sleep, additionally fairies don't have to eat so that's a bonus.
@shadowwearwolf48912 жыл бұрын
i would personally like to see more of the three fairies of light, also Luna child might have more power than she knows given a conversation she keeps forgetting or being made to forget with Yukari where she states "the power of the light of the moon is even superior to the light of the sun. A peaceful power, the colour of the heart, sorrows, the light of the moon is a light that does not bewilder anything. Come now, wake up. Why do you think you are treated well by the other light of the sun and the light of the stars?" or maybe she was trying to trick luna, you can never be to sure when it comes to yukari
@austin52592 жыл бұрын
As someone who has only experienced Touhou through hentai I thank you, very informative
@都将为大家死呢037111 ай бұрын
ooh
@xClownpiece2 жыл бұрын
always on top
@terangks60282 жыл бұрын
My opinion is same as yours. Good video btw
@changvasejarik625 ай бұрын
Honestly if I was sent to gensokyo I would want to become a fairy while somehow keeping most my intelligence. Sure your killing fodder for youkai miko and the klepto witch. But you’re immortal, you get to live a carefree existence, you don’t have to worry about aging and you’re frilling adorable. I would be the smartest fairy.
@akai9-ball4042 жыл бұрын
Cirno: Im Cirno the strongest fairy around Gensokyo Star: Ja anyway I start blasting with my Stielhandgranate
@Social_Requirments Жыл бұрын
Who knew sticks could blow up?
@AllVoiceHowdy2 жыл бұрын
Touhou video essays 100% support ᗜˬᗜ
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
How to always know that a species really isn't worth a dang: One of their toptiers is often considered one of the weakest challengers in the roster.
@99lad2 жыл бұрын
I would say that Sunny could be the strongest character in Touhou if she can control the volume of a sound, quick science lesson if you match the sound wave of something it will break, so in that sense danmaku, is not a treat, or if she uses her power of a human, well she could pop someone's head, or control a humans movement, or flail about,(yes, the sound is scary)lookup remote control human) note if she could mute someone's ability well Yukari thee strongest in gensokyo could have been beaten by three fairys, note there is now coming back from that.
@Hambs233 ай бұрын
Just finished reading all the Fairies of Light trio mangas. Haven't played all the games yet, but here are some things to note: - Fairies are stupid. Period. They are capable of using reason and logic, but are still in general very impressionable and gullible. - They are manifestations of nature, and are both a reflection of nature as well as nature is a reflection of them. They're born from nature's lifeforce, and while they can't create more of it by themselves, they can guide nature's lifeforce to a "natural" workflow (as in imitating the Real World). An exception to that would be Clownpiece's Hellfire Torch, which can overwork or itensify lifeforce. In other words, fairies can't cause a natural disaster as long as they exist, they can only put things back into order. Clownpiece setting stuff on fire is not unnatural, it's just her recreating the nature of Hell, since she's a Hell Fairy. - This balance changes if a fairy's individual lifeforce gets messed with. They can be overtuned and turned into God levels of power. Tanned Cirno looks like a flying meme, but she canonically beats Okina, one of the strongest beings in Gensokyo, in a 1v1. And as stated before, seasons, plants and other natural ocurrances can get very intense or dim depending on the fairies' state. - If they die, they'll reapear as long as the thing they represent still exists (this I didn't learn from the mangas, or at least don't remember, but heard somewhere else). However if they exhaust their lifeforce, they turn into crystals which can be consumed by other entities, then they die, presumably, since this was stated but didn't actually happen. - They're cute, useful, and I want to adopt them.
@IkaraPopsicle2 жыл бұрын
How weak are furries
@pakuuto22 жыл бұрын
Fodder tier
@plm-fp6nu2 жыл бұрын
very, they die from a few pistol-shot 9mm rounds.
@fadillah60142 жыл бұрын
You mean kagerou?
@fadillah60142 жыл бұрын
@@CerealKiller the range not enough, shot a net first then do it.
@akiradkcn2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TheAlmightyGream2 жыл бұрын
We all know Clownpiece is the strongest fairy but how strong is she when compared to the other characters?
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
The problem with that is that clownpiece only interacted and or faced against very strong people like okina or reimu, she's obviously weaker than them so her fighting okina doesnt really anwser anything. And since she's no longer buffed by junko we can't use reisens statement that she is stronger than a kishin. The only thing we can use is the fact that hecatia said she's strong which also doesn't really anwser anything. Idk if that helped, but that's all i got with official sources.
@TheAlmightyGream2 жыл бұрын
Based on my research I have concluded that Clownpiece is: 1. Stronger than all stage 1 and 2 bosses 2. Stronger than most of stage 3 bosses 3. Stronger or equal than half of stage 4 bosses 4. Just stronger than a tiny portion of stage 5 bosses 5. Isn't stronger than all stage 6 and extra bosses
@CombineWatermelon2 жыл бұрын
no thats cirno you dunce
@Arfadoz2 жыл бұрын
@@fourhashtag89 Well, Hecatia said that Clownpiece was strong, and not just "for a fairy" strong. I think that just going by that she's probably around mid-level youkai.
@Fraudulentfries2 жыл бұрын
VSbattle wikis trying to powerscale touhou characters (They're all Multiversal)
@davefernandez4481 Жыл бұрын
But are they really tho?
@Fraudulentfries Жыл бұрын
@@davefernandez4481 no,only like maybe the stronger characters but lower tier characters can be like town level or somethin
@Fraudulentfries Жыл бұрын
Maybe without the danmaku rules you can scale the fairies higher
@davefernandez4481 Жыл бұрын
@@Fraudulentfries How strong do you think the characters are in general? Without putting them into tiers.
@encross80582 жыл бұрын
Nice video man
@jaimecardenal69222 жыл бұрын
You state that regular clownpiece is stronger than cirno, but who would be stronger in their buffed form? (LoLK clownpiece or HSiFS tanned cirno)
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
I don't think we can properly deduce which one of them was stronger but if i had to guess i'd probably say cirno.
@noneofyourbusiness41339 ай бұрын
8:04 cirno is able to go against the hell judge lady and beat her in the canon ending. This puts her at least the same level as clown piece if not even above
@fourhashtag899 ай бұрын
Danmaku battles are designed in such a way that makes it so that pure power cannot win you the fights. If we were following that logic, then we could say that cirno is the strongest because she beat marisa who defeated hecatia, and at that point nothing makes any sense. I'm not saying that my statements are absolute, I was just trying to do my best with the information given.
@teddyrichard14882 ай бұрын
no. that is, in comparison to other toohoos. if the average fairy were to be placed in the real world she could probably establish world domination in less than a day.
@SwapyLoL Жыл бұрын
Clownpiece :american troll:
@MedsieLovr2 жыл бұрын
Ok i'll sub bunny guy
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
bunny guy is fun to say
@sonwig51867 ай бұрын
I don't know Chirno seemed to be more powerful than Rumia to me...
@tuskltdm52462 жыл бұрын
Nice
@kerduslegend26442 жыл бұрын
Ayo can you give me the sauce for that thumbnail? Chonky cirno is kinda cute lol
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
That's the art from Great Fairy Wars.
@PoonBot5K2 жыл бұрын
cirno is the strongest duh
@Remisaku Жыл бұрын
Wow there humans gonna be superhuman☠️🙏 because there ftl and city block level
@LordZero6662 жыл бұрын
What about tanned Cirno ? Tanned girls are the strongest race after all.
@gp86662 жыл бұрын
But are fairies considered underage?
@fourhashtag892 жыл бұрын
We know that cirno is over 60, do with that information what you will
@gp86662 жыл бұрын
@@fourhashtag89 *unzips pants*
@somefries31012 жыл бұрын
Young body, but the fairies of light do actually drink sake
@aoneko68132 жыл бұрын
I will not stand for this fairy slander!
@daiyousei66482 жыл бұрын
Wha!
@encross80582 жыл бұрын
cool
@allem69002 жыл бұрын
Well, Corno is obviously the strongest being to live in Gensokyo. SHe's not even supposed to be there but what's Yukari to do about it?
@Andromeda_xo2 жыл бұрын
hecatia?yukari,and so on?
@user-hn4nw5nb3j9 ай бұрын
I belive the Three Fairies of Light are accutally villains. ZUN may not care about them, but I lost interest in them.
@user-hn4nw5nb3j4 ай бұрын
@@ItsLeBridge Okay
@kaloz42962 жыл бұрын
monster girl enc: pathetic procces to show every creatures*
@Ua_Conchubair2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Cirno is the strongest not clown piece.
@AmericanCaesarian Жыл бұрын
Not very strong, some napalm can solve the problem