How the ancient game of Go is a guide to modern life | Silvia Lozeva | TEDxPerth

Silvia uses the ancient Chinese game of Go to connect with people across the world. On her journey, she discovered that Go is a wonderful teacher of skills necessary in many aspects of modern life. She walks us through some of Go's principles to demonstrate the social learnings and personal understanding that come from playing the game.
Silvia has worked to advance equity and diversity in the higher education sector and leads campaigns on the prevention of violence against women. Silvia has lived and worked in New Zealand, Australia, Bulgaria, Russia, the UK and Central Europe. She organised the first academic Go Symposium in Australia (Sydney 2018) and has continuously applied the art, science and game of Go in her own research, teaching and community engagement. Silvia is a life-long Go player and an aspiring Go scholar.
Silvia is joined on stage by two brave Go players, Hardy Zhiyuan DAI, 8 and Jason Schrader, 26 as they continue their game. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

[@gameofgo2008]

Beautiful talk. "Don't be greedy" and actively learn from your competition in a respectful way.

[@ShawnRay]

Finally a Go Ted talk!!

[@davidmunhofen7889]

I hope you are allready working on some rough drafts of "your upcoming" TED Talk...? :) ?Yes? (:

[@ksaraf23]

Knew I’d find you here. You’re one of the first people I found when I got into go. Hope you can get a chance to give a lecture like this one day!

[@ShawnRay]

@@ksaraf23 haha me too!

[@nortonofnorthamerica]

I too am a terrible Go player. I love it for the same reasons

[@ksaraf23]

Same here

[@BenKyoBaduk]

Elegantly simple, profoundly deep.

[@JohnArnoldUK]

This so perfectly explains why I love Go so much.

[@michaelkeane1084]

wonderful talk. Very inspiring Silvia

[@srinivasanraghunathan8656]

One of the fantastic talks about how to use gamification in real life and get benefits. GO should be taught in every school curriculum across the globe.

[@rudyteja8977]

Thanks very much for the inspiring introduction to the game. Will start to learn it... 😊🙏🏻❤️

[@gessicarocha2219]

Thank yoi for inspiring me to contiue learning how to play Go, Silvia 🙏🏻

[@glockdookie5231]

Howd it go? I just spent the last 3 days trying to figure it out and can just now say i kindof get it

[@TomvanBodegraven]

Fantastic talk on the game of Go. A long overdue Ted talk. Well done and well presented.

[@daisydaffsforever723]

So impressed with your speech.....love Melanie...see you in Perth soon

[@lovson7276]

i went to take my son's first Go class today and found it interesting. thanks for sharing the knowledge. Trying to find more!

[@jeffreyphandani5160]

u should, its really good for brain

[@linmengshi2008]

Weiqi (Go) is very complex and profound. It has its own beauty.

[@jeffreyphandani5160]

it is really beautifull, complex yet so simple

[@musikkimies]

That was great!

[@xXSpamMeNotXx]

This Ted talk is seriously deep for a board game

[@lisbethabad]

fantastic, i didn't know this game, nice talk

[@princess_kishi]

Started yesterday playing go.

[@Cabin_Fever13]

Might be the best Ted Talk i’ve ever seen

[@FishKungfu]

That was cool.

[@KOUGA108]

Wait i was in the same Go club as her a few years ago in Curtin University.

[@alexcoyg3281]

Choices is part of any game, life is choices, make them yours

[@elshisu]

Interesting. I have played go for years (every now and then) as chess and I love both in their own way. For me Go is only second to xianqi.

[@imlarge]

You only start to see the possibilities on the GO Board only after u reach below 20kyu

[@dannychen1768]

As a 5d Go player, I would say the two players in this Ted talk played at a beginner level while using an expensive, professional Go set.

[@hrushikesh708]

I wanna learn to play but the set is too expensive and there aren't people who can play help

[@dannychen1768]

@@hrushikesh708 You can play online with other internationals.

[@Lamb785]

@@hrushikesh708 You can buy a magnetic set on Amazon for about $20, that's what I use (not sure if it's the exact same one, I got mine awhile ago). I usually play online and play out the game on my board at the same time, since I don't really know many people IRL who play (and, well, there's covid now anyways).

[@totalhenry]

Its kind of weird to see that level of play on such a nice board. That being said, I'm probably not much better and I also want to play on a board like that

[@bikesroget1]

It looks better for the talk than a cheap set. The game they are playing is hardly the point

[@YSFmemories]

Who came here from r/baduk? :D

[@gameofgo9172]

We!!! 😄😄

[@johngibson4874]

Me

[@YSFmemories]

@@chefkoo no.

[@sharingmatters]

Thank you, Silvia, for you meaningful talk!

[@pipedreamkahuna]

Aloha. Hilo, Hawaii has a Go club.

[@davidmunhofen7889]

Aloha. Do you have to learn a certain traditional native Hawaii dance to become a member at this club...? :)

[@versathaiyoga]

@@davidmunhofen7889 haha. no need for any of that. Unfortunately, the club meetings have been suspended due to virus protocols.

[@NoHandleToSpeakOf]

The game can make you laugh 11:53

[@davidmunhofen7889]

seemed like both were eather a kind of beginner level or just at least pretending to be, for the audiance, for some reason...? :)

[@quach8quach907]

Very good. But there are 2 other contenders. Chess Poker. "You've got to know when to hold 'em know when to fold 'em and know when to run . . ."

[@xxsnow_angelxx3953]

Looking back, chess have similar compounds but it feels more aggressive. After certain time the growth in it isn’t the same margin as Go

[@rbpompeu1]

Beware of the right way to hold the stones!

[@davidmunhofen7889]

The upper class Chinese and "their proper" way of doing everthing... :) I played a elderly retired Professional Wei-Qi/ GO board player in the 2000 GO Congress. And I was pleasently taken back by his every regular person kind of way of just picking up the stone with his thumb and forefinger and then very gently moving to the place on the board and very quitly placing his stone. I really enjoyed watching him do this each time. And thought to myself, we are deluding ourselves on "proper" picking up and thunking our stones down to make a noise each time. :) I am glad that I was able to take this lesson with me from that day foward.

[@rbpompeu1]

@@davidmunhofen7889 The exception cannot be taken as a rule. There is a right way to hold the stones and that is part of the game beauty.

[@alexcoyg3281]

@@rbpompeu1 is there? Rules can be broken, laws can be bent, that is what you learn in any game

[@kevinwang6412]

The real question is, how did the match on the side go?

[@StormWolf01]

The sequence they play at 4:50, they play again at 7:40. Whoever edited botched the job.

[@NoHandleToSpeakOf]

Nice catch!

[@davidmunhofen7889]

I was wondring why at least a move or two seemed to disapear, later in the game. :)

[@AndIChoseToSpeakFAX]

Woah, insane observation

[@lyde9272]

Literally was about to comment that lmao

[@cragjones1799]

Everything was about getting along in all sorts of ways . Then its about GO taking over chess...lol I know she didn't mean it that way but it still seemed funny..

[@TheRockMorton]

GO (game), I CHING (oracle), DNA (manifestation of Nature's game and oracle)

[@jacksonfitzsimmons4253]

Take your meds.

[@AndIChoseToSpeakFAX]

What??

[@amanahmed6057]

ME WHO IS HERE AFTER "HIKARU NO GO" AND GOING TO LEARN "GO"

[@Shizaru2723]

Kind of weird that they aren't actually playing the game, no? Compare 4:53 to 7:42

[@elchinpirbabayev5757]

behind iron curtain I had access to ... books... on eastern philosophies.. I thought they could read only Marx ))) Bulgaria which once boasted that they had the biggest colony in the form of USSR and were ranked 29th on human development index, of all nations.

[@ClarkPotter]

I'm a board game aficionado and competitive chess player, and imo, Go is humanity's greatest board game. I prefer it to chess and they're not even in the same ballpark. It takes a couple dozen games to feel like you have any idea wtf is going on at all, which can turn off those that aren't comfortable with ambiguity and not knowing for a while, but then it begins to flourish in your mind like nothing else.

[@studentofsmith]

My strong recommendation is to start beginners off on the 9x9 board. It's much easier to understand what's happening and you can learn basic tactics before graduating to the 19x19 board.

[@osXcanada]

A couple dozen? Try 6,000 games and I still really have no clue!

[@AT-AT-AT-AT]

shocked to learn that people from the former soviet union didn’t like socialism!

[@bozmar1]

Shogi japanese chess is as good as go maybe better . Go is good but very static compared to shogi that is a very dynamic and ballanced battle between strategy and tactics and where captured pieces can be introduced back into the game . The biggest problem of shogi to be popularized into the world is that the game is played with unconfortable oriental characters on the pieces . Anyway all is about tastes both being great games

[@pulsar2842]

Uncle iroh brought me here ☺️

[@makalagarrettowens4329]

Somebody please get her some water!

[@gold6917]

She is not a native speaker.

[@mohammedmansoor4347]

Chess is nothing when compared to GO game, and when chess player plays GO game they say chess is easy compared to GO game. Go is very hard board game.

[@cherneshenko]

Too deep. It looks like if she had played chess as a child, the title would have been "How the ancient game of Chess is a guide to modern life"

[@jacklonghearse9821]

Go will never take over chess, they’re both extremely well-crafted, balanced and valuable games. They are the Yin and Yang of board games. The masculine and feminine. You should absolutely learn both ways. Chess also doesn’t require you to capture every piece, it’s up to you to make that decision. The point is to corner the king.

[@nickgutierrez7884]

It depends. I think they both have their niches. I hate chess but I love Go indeed. Chess is too structured and Go is more creative.

[@maciejgulak3530]

For sure Go is a female 🤣

[@Ungoliant85]

Partially agree with this. Philosophically speaking, both games are perfect in embodying archetypal approaches to our human nature. Chess, with rows of soldiers marching forward to capture each other, embodies the conflict of "man vs. man," committing regicide and eliminating the opposing faction. Given that the handicap system in Go indicates a player's standing relative to other players, an honest player can expect to lose about half of their games. Therefore, Go can be seen as a quest for self-improvement, "man vs. himself." If you make strategic decisions for your own benefit, victory naturally follows. You need the opponent to populate the board.

[@user-tc2wo5lt9y]

In Chess you are Al Capone fighting for power in Chicago. In Go your Winston Churchill fighting to win WW2. In Chess you are fighting a battle, in Go you are fighting a war.

[@swank0808]

can you say "i think you freaky and i like it alot" once for me .

[@alexcoyg3281]

😂😂😂✊👍🙋

[@eydaimon]

I don't know why she says it's just 1500 years when recent movies like "the surrounding game" said 5000. 1500 years is the lowest number I've ever heard

[@lemonz1769]

eydaimon She said 40 centuries ago

[@rumfordc]

she made it very clear its 4000+ years old.

[@phelan_pt]

There are legends, and there is history. I think the oldest found Weiqi artifact is 2000-3000 years old, and any references older than that are ambiguous as to what game they referred to, Weiqi vs other ancient abstract games. The myths and legends place it much earlier, as 4000 years or older, but there is no basis to believe they are true.

[@TomvanBodegraven]

She never actually said "1500 years".

[@user-lt8vw4fe4w]

The blonde guy doesn't know how to hold the piece. The young boy holds it correctly. Also, the Chinese rules since 1400CE has one rule called 還碁頭 which gives the connectivity aspect of 圍棋. The Japanese rules are very ambiguous and missed the original philosophy of 圍棋.

[@corrick4339]

can you explain?

[@user-lt8vw4fe4w]

@@corrick4339 The ways the two hold and place the stones.

[@corrick4339]

@@user-lt8vw4fe4w ah I meant the concepts/philosophies that differ between Chinese and Japanese rules and what the Japanese got wrong

[@user-lt8vw4fe4w]

@@corrick4339 I see. The definition of a life territory is to have at least two eyes. So the original Chinese rules require not counting one stone for each and every territory. This is know as 還碁頭. The implication is ideally to have the smallest numbers of territory, and Weiqi is not only a territory game but also connection game. This rule was abolished by the Chinese government in official games in the 1980's to align with Japanese and Korean rules, but still used in non-offcial games, for example in Internet Weiqi websites.

[@user-rf8xl2yk1f]

Any info about Go philosophy ??

[@dhardy8760]

Great video but she could of used a glass of water. Sounds like she had glue drying in her mouth.

[@firstnlastn3571]

바둑은 중국에서 만든 것이 아니다

[@CL-po8ud]

😏

[@Manhwa108]

그럼 어디서 만드는 거?

[@firstnlastn3571]

@@Manhwa108 Nobody known. 오직 외계인들만이 답해줄 수 있다!

[@passenger1670]

so tell me where is go from? from korea? Does Korea have 4000 years of history? i know koreans like to say we create this, we create that, yes, koreans create suns, create univers, hehe...

[@passenger1670]

Stop stealing Chinese culture , koreans !!!

[@alfonsoviejo8917]

This is ridiculous xdddd

[@slaiyfershin]

Lol both players are just playing a horrible game, adding nothing to her talk.

[@romeolachapelle5349]

i saw a weapon of war right away...genghis khan weapons of bend the knee or die in the middle crush...go game...war game between Xi and the west.