How the Coruscant Underworld became a LITERAL HELL (Legends)

[@EckhartsLadder]

Stream tonight: kzbin.info The thumbnail art was partially commissioned by me (right side), but I am could not find the original source for the left hand picture. If you know it, please comment so I can add to the description.

[@lisamills4050]

EckhartsLadder hi

[@lisamills4050]

You’re really cool

[@rigrug1]

What time is the stream?

[@JMObyx]

#AskEck What if The Spirit of Fire joined the Rebel Alliance? Scenario 1: In 10BBY, the Spirit of Fire arrives in the Yavin system after the Events of Halo 1 with its Slipspace drive gone, Serina is present and the limit on her lifespan is removed, the ship and its crew are rescued by the Rebel Alliance. Scenario 2: The Spirit of Fire with her Splipspace drive and missing all of its crew, including any AI, and arrives in Yavin at 10 BBY, the Rebel Alliance successfully retrieves the ship and adds it to their fleet.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

40k: this is normal everyday life in a hive city!

[@Reepicheep-1]

Sounds like Courescant is a good place for an RPG with all kinds of tech levels, weapon types, environments, and endless foes for grinding.

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

Star Wars: Darkest Dungeon.

[@vietfrog549]

Grinding on your foes is kinda gay...

[@superlozer89able]

It's only gay if it's not agreed apon.

[@firstlight8807]

Just need an auto-clicker

[@BazzBrother]

@@superlozer89able ...no, thats sexual assault. Gay is if the grinding was frontal and each persons force was touching

[@Osman-Ghazi]

I do love hearing about the Coruscant Underworld. It's quite literally a planet within a planet. Shame Lucas tv show idea never came to fruition.

[@timbartschwolfman]

That would have been cool to see

[@TactiClaus]

You could honestly make an entire tv show where you never see the same place or the surface

[@ceilyurie856]

@Luke L. not ENTIRELY true... I think those police gunships in Clone Wars came from there...maybe. but that's it....woulda been a cool game

[@ratbat1072]

They could probably spend a season of the mandalorian on it

[@creed8712]

The reason both the game and show had to be canceled was because they were actual good ideas and Disney Star Wars isn’t allowed any of that. Mandalorian and Clone wars got through the cracks because Faverou must of had some pull from marvel with the Former and they needed a W after the hell they brought with last jedi for the latter.

[@mylesgaddy8867]

Geez, this sounds more like 40k than Star Wars. Didn't know it got this dark in Legends.

[@blackshogun272]

Boy Maam good and evil "gods" also exist in Legends as well...

[@davidant8901]

In the grim darkness of the Expanded Universe, there is only war (seriously, there's always a war.) *edited to comply with Imperial standards

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Pius Dea, and Abeloth.

[@Nostripe361]

@@davidant8901 Well it isn't called Star Wars for nothing.

[@obijuanquenobi1911]

Check out the Yuuzhan vong war, you will see how that gets close to 40k

[@dominiqueminor8039]

I'm suprised you didn't talk about the blind canabalistic creatures that live on the lowest levels that might have been human at one point from one of the maul novels.

[@tobiahrowswell2928]

Are you referring to Rakghouls? I didn't know they were in the maul novels but that does sound like a Rakghoul, if so they were primarily on Taris, another city planet.

[@jayburn00]

@@tobiahrowswell2928 Not rakgouls, different creature entirely.

[@ClarkusMarkus]

@@jayburn00 Cthons?

[@xenon244]

I think he did in another video, but I‘m not sure

[@feenicks9972]

What maul novel was it

[@nathaniellong4281]

The worst case of "out of sight, out of mind" ever.

[@koransumant6270]

I think it's also b cause it's also impossible to navigate, and get large numbers of people to go down willingly to map out the area and enforce laws in a place that is literally hell

[@techblogger8323]

@@koransumant6270 they literally have a clone army that fights on huge star destroyer ships that can blow up planets...they could map out a planet

[@koransumant6270]

@@techblogger8323 too much time to waste on something that doesn't involve interplanetary trade relations

[@nicholaspeterman9111]

@@techblogger8323 Star Destroyers cannot destroy planets. They can effectively glass them, but not destroy them outright.

[@TheWhoamaters]

In star wars maybe

[@k_a_n_t_a_l_o_p_e]

Imagine if the next Star Wars Battlefront were to have a map in an area of Coruscant that collapsed down to the lowest levels with multiple miles of rubble as essentially canyon walls surrounding the battlefield. The death clouds could be an excuse for enforcing play boundaries.

[@Lawgamer411]

Keyword: imagine next Star Wars Battlefront. I don’t have too much hope with SWBF tbh sadly.

[@Frizzleman]

Have you thought about a career in video game design

[@k_a_n_t_a_l_o_p_e]

I'm actually making a game already lol. I've been involved with Halo's forge community since Reach, so I have some experience on the level design side. Here's a forum on level design that I'm a staff member for: www.nextleveldesign.org/index.php

[@Constantine_xP]

with the death clouds star wars could have a battle royale mode.

[@844SteamFan]

@@Constantine_xP Lol

[@nicolasmartinez3045]

I like how Ecks said he was selling out even though he's sponsoring himself.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Nicolas Martinez almost feels a bit corrupt.

[@TheWarmachine375]

That's pretty pathetic

[@MrCdog85]

@Vince Lumontad No u

[@KingWashington1776]

Well it is his chanel and merch.

[@vka4598]

Post-Vong/Post Abeloth Coruscant is probably one of the most interesting settings in all of Star Wars. Shining Metropolis turned literal hell. Really wish we got some visual representation of that in media but so long legends

[@shcdemolisher]

Would probably look like a demon invasion, like Doom eternal on coruscant. Which would be an interesting place for a setting!

[@basementdweller235]

Reminds me a lot of rapture from Bioshock.

[@jakealter5504]

The vong turned the undercity into a brutal jungle, it was abeloth that turned the undercity into a literal hell (she triggered massive earthquakes and volcanic eruptions)

[@thatguywholeavestheparty6147]

Courusant is like a onion it has onions

[@gamalielvacasolis3484]

*layers. Onions have layers

[@darthvader4594]

Which means shrek would like this planet

[@goaliejoe5923]

“Avengers infinity war is the most ambitious crossover in history” Star Wars: The rise of shrek:

[@lorddevilfish5868]

Well it’s funny you mention that because....starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coruscani_ogre Shrek could be considered cannon in Star Wars

[@darthvader4594]

@@lorddevilfish5868 i feel like my third eye has opened

[@finaldarkfire]

#AskEck Has there ever been an explanation given as to how the whole superstructure of Coruscant has remained standing? If the lowest levels of Coruscant have been abandoned for thousands of years with no upkeep, how have those areas, the very foundations of the higher levels, remained structurally sound and stable all this time? Likewise, if massive parts of the undercity are destroyed by supervolcanos, shouldn't everything above those areas on the surface just collapse into a giant hellpit?

[@wilkor-lc7ox]

Most likely shit ton of repulsor lifts and the other tech that i do not remember the name of, it's generators made thing much more structuraly stable, as intstead of pushing things outward, generating anti gravity, it pulled things to each other and they could sustain much higher tensions on them, that would otherwise break break it instantly

[@ChickenFartx]

Droids in legends, if you play old republic you actually go down there and see them

[@eds1942]

A lot of it became the ground, the planet’s manufactured crust.

[@ImpudentInfidel]

Gree supertechnology that's so far above even current Republic tech that they have to get them to maintain it when it's damaged.

[@martinsuper4545]

Wasn't Lando rebuilding parts of the underworld in Legends?

[@Explorerofshadows]

I'm just wondering how the hell the Coruscant undercities haven't become the biggest darkside nexus in the galaxy.

[@coggnus9656]

Due to the presence of the Jedi order being stationed there throughout most of Star Wars history this kept the planet more so leaning towards the light. However in the words of Darth Plagueis the underworld activity kept Coruscant from being as strong in the Light as Korriban was in the Dark. Plus this was before the Vong and Abeloth.

[@cjdziesiuta1995]

@@coggnus9656 that, and even Sidious was scared shitless of the undercity

[@Batkenpre]

@@cjdziesiuta1995 yaaaa I do remember a few sith mentioning even they don't want anything to do with that shit

[@higrunt9844]

Forget sith. Become world eater.

[@maleexile9053]

I'm getting Babylon vibes from coruscant

[@tear728]

Dex's Diner is still the most terrifying hellscape on Coruscant.

[@dankmatter3068]

Lol true

[@ardenskylark6235]

CaN I GeT yA A CuPPa JAwWaJuUice?!

[@neighornproductions8916]

hEeEeEeEeyYyYyYyYy wHhHhAaAdDdoOoYyYaA kNoW

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Well how horrifying the diner is really depends on how good your manners are, how big your.. _pocket book_ is. *demented chortling*

[@xGOKOPx]

Damn this is the kinda thing that I love the most. A huge planet-sized city that's clean and glorious on the top levels but the deeper you go the more broken, ugly, corrupted and horrifying it gets

[@ATruckCampbell]

Yep, literally and metaphorically.

[@EXC334]

Reminds me of Taris

[@danielwoods3896]

Like Piltover

[@theevildrummingsithlord1492]

Quite the metaphor for life.

[@SealPigeon]

Eck and fans: *Sponsors Eck* Raid: Shadow Legends: He can’t do that, shoot him or something!

[@echo8474]

To me this sounds like Coruscant needs to be scrapped and abandoned.

[@deanholderde5959]

Or you could just abandon everything below the surface and hope that works out.

[@capulet6669]

Call EXTERMIMATUS upon this planet

[@self-satisfiedsmirk5544]

@@deanholderde5959 Yeah... I'm pretty sure that was the primary contributing factor as to how the Coruscanti Underworld got as bad as it did in Legends continuity.

[@self-satisfiedsmirk5544]

@@deanholderde5959 I'm more partial to +Capulet 666's proposal. Just burn it all down. Get rid of the infestations, tear down at least a portion of the existing structures, most of which are abandoned, decrepit, and in various stages of decay. If they decreased the levels burrowing down away from the surface (or rather, rising away from it) and focused their construction efforts downwards, they'd get rid of a lot of issues in the long run, from socio-political discontent to the levels of waste and waste heat that's produced by the planet and its denizens and has to be disposed of.

[@0th_Law]

Self-Satisfied Smirk I mean, sure, but there still are people down there. If they can survive in that hellscape, power to them. Getting people out is largely infeasable, and burning it all down would cost tremendous amounts of lives.

[@ethanworner864]

I wonder if the massive towers are kept up by high strength materials or anti-gravity generators?

[@Frizzleman]

Maybe even repulsorlift tech. It could be a cool explanation for the introduction of repulsorlifts in Star Wars instead of all technology being purely militarized

[@annusrideviravindran6396]

Nag maybe some tall piller like structures that it's radius is about 200km away

[@אבהרחמיםהנגב]

Naaah, yall wrong, it's kept up by the plot

[@zacharyroach2067]

It's kept up by the force. Keep in mind there are many ancient jedi and sith temples all across the planet. (This is a joke btw. But the temple part is true)

[@friedwaldderlebendige8494]

Probably both, i guess

[@lordblenkinsopp1537]

Eck have you ever thought about how Coruscant often has bright blue sunny skies, even though it is a planetary city so it should probably have haze? Is there an in-universe explanation or not?

[@bosh5501]

Like LA or Beijing

[@lelkr]

plot armour.

[@theakspud]

It's called the WeatherNet, or the Coruscant Weather Control Network

[@lordblenkinsopp1537]

Cool thanks guys 👍

[@kre8or465]

@@lordblenkinsopp1537 Oh ya, I remember that! they had huge solar panels in orbit as part of that to direct sun evenly to every part of the planet as well as direct heat away from the planet since it would probably over heat to the point of melting otherwise, and I imagine they had large atmosphere scrubbers installed as well in places with high pollution like the industrial districts.

[@tuckerjohnston1844]

I always love it when someone on KZbin talks about Coruscant Underworld it’s so damn interesting.

[@krim7]

I would never want to be poor on Coruscant lol

[@krim7]

Then again that is true of every planet in Star Wars... Hell, that is true for the real world too. Meh, at least I get to see the sun 🌞

[@overtaxed79]

Gotta have money to pay the pirates.

[@QixTheDS]

João Tavares or a bigger gang

[@zachlinn9043]

Honestly I wouldn't want to be on corosaunt at all, even if I was filthy rich I would wanna live somewhere with some nature and open space

[@QixTheDS]

zach linn sorry where?

[@oom-3262]

Coruscant underdweller during the Battle of Coruscant (CW): -So my holiday to kessel is cancelled because it's raining droids. God dammit. Coruscant underdweller during the order 66 and rise of the Empire: -So the guy up there has a new outfit. Neat. Coruscant underdweller during the new republic bombings: -The fuck they doing over there, I can't stop hearing some weird pounding. Coruscant underdweller during the Vong invasion and terramorhping: -I had a roaches problem. Now the roaches are somehow man sized. And they ate my neighbour. Neat. Coruscant underdweller during the Abaloth invasion. -Ok eugh no. I standed the roaches. I standed when the roaches turned into man sized human eating monsters, I standed the crime, I standed living on a fucking target of a planet. I AM NOT LIVING IN HELL.

[@nameholderplaceholder4856]

We need a trilogy around this guy.

[@ABadassDragon]

Its like Gary the stormtrooper

[@_.BlackArmor._]

...and the rent keeps going up.

[@ghuttsmckenzie4269]

@@_.BlackArmor._ how is the landlord still alive!? I thought he would be the first to be eaten by hungry cockroaches! Unless he's that guy who keeps screaming with explosives strapped to his back begging for his life.

[@HopeFaithLove4]

Haha

[@justinreeves2696]

I remember being so freaked out at all the crazy monsters on the bottom of Taris during the Kotor game.

[@C25-150]

Justin Reeves You mean Taris right?

[@eds1942]

SWTOR not KotOR.

[@justinreeves2696]

Ed S I’m talking about knights of the old republic not swtor stoopi.

[@justinreeves2696]

Collin Miller-117 if I confused you I’m sorry, yea I meant Taris sorry about that I’ll change it

[@C25-150]

Justin Reeves it’s all good, it happens to all of us

[@stardragon7893]

Abeloth is one of the most interesting villains in Legends. More than the Empire, more than the Sith, she's pure evil and a threat to the entire galaxy. I wonder how much of the events in the galaxy over the years she had influence over, or if she could only sense what was going on and not affect it. It's a real shame Disney had to go and get rid of it all. Legends went to some incredible places.

[@janeappleseed2154]

Be careful what you wish for. They might make a movie about her where Lando seduces her because she's a space Pawg. Or they might let Lupita Nyongo play her.

[@eds1942]

The Maw and the Centerpoint network kept Abeloth safely imprisoned and isolated from the galaxy. It’s only when that containment system breaks down where she becomes free to sow chaos.

[@higrunt9844]

I'm kind of happy that some things from legends are not cannon, especially useless things

[@theaegis5795]

Disney didn't get rid of it. It still exists. We make it still exist. It is still a Canon. It is recorded and written in some extent. Fuck Disney up their mouse eared assholes

[@theaegis5795]

Not Canon to main stream star wars but lucas always said the EU and movies are their own seperate deals. What is Canon in one isn't in the other and that's what I am staying with

[@luckerhdd3929]

Some people see Coruscant as a great planet with high advanced city where elites live and everything important happens... But I can only see Coruscant as a parfect definition of dystopia. It's an infinite giant decomposing hell. A cesspit of the galaxy. Also there are several things I really wonder about. When was the corrent surface level constructed? What about senate building and other major facilities? Did they always move them to the new surface level or they just built the new ones and abandoned the old? In my opinion giving Coruscant thousands of levels was bit too much and it causes big trouble and many holes in logic. Also the population of 3 TRILLION is extremely underestimated.

[@n2badsam420]

Republic Era: Okay but not perfect Empire Era: Alright Yuzhan Yong Era: WELCOME TO HELL

[@jakealter5504]

Fate of the Jedi era: you thought that the vong era was hell, let me show you what true hell is

[@jakealter5504]

@Mr.Dinoface that’s why I said that while the vong made the undercity hellish in the figurative sense, abeloth made it into actual hell

[@brianbromley9586]

I might still take Corusant over Detroit any day

[@nofvcejuno]

HAAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@JohanDoesVideos]

You right. Cant have shit in Detroit

[@Cobretsov2022]

The DPD just stole my meth. Can’t have shit on Detroit.

[@uppishcub1617]

at least Coruscant still has a good part of town

[@DareSpeak23]

Thats what one gets for voting democrats.

[@_.BlackArmor._]

That moment when you discover that sunlight exists and daily blaster fire isn't normal.

[@TheWarmachine375]

What is Coruscant? A MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS!

[@henryschriemer1133]

“Near Demi god” I’d say she was a full on Star Wars god. She was so powerful.

[@alinapakhomova8731]

henry schriemer she wasn’t part of the ones and obtained her power. she was a human servant who served the ones, getting close to them and the son and the daughter saw her as the mother. she wanted to live with her “family” forever thus she drank from the Font of Power and bathed in the Pool of Knowledge. so it makes sense why she was called a near demi god

[@higrunt9844]

This is why legends was kinda deleted...

[@fersho450]

@@alinapakhomova8731 but abeloth is actually more Powerfull than the father

[@marcofava]

So Corucsant is a Hive City light in essence

[@gilbertosantos2806]

Im guessing a prettier version of Holy Terra

[@magnustherad1516]

Gilberto Santos You dare imply Holy Terra anything less than beautiful??

[@oliveragag8576]

More like a global hive city. Hell I'd call it worse because the crust isn't even habitable.

[@nobleman9393]

You noticed that only now?

[@blackore64]

Coruscant seems to get worse down there more quickly than your typical hive city. Then again, Coruscant is propably not as high, but more wider, as it spans the entire surface.

[@attilathehun5067]

Here's something I've always wondered, is the Coruscant undercity under the ground, or is the very bottom of the lower levels the actual surface of Coruscant? #AskEck

[@DogeCop]

Im pretty sure its just city for a while, but eventually it gets to the ground, where i think, im not sure, but i think it ends there

[@kre8or465]

I would assume the very bottom levels are technically below where the natural ground level would have been, like the basements of old structures, but other than that one natural park from legends that has the tip of a mountain still visible I think the entire original surface of coruscaunt has been completely dug up and replaced with more structures.

[@coreymicallef365]

The undercity goes from the ground level all the way up at least a couple of thousand levels. That said a good portion of that is completely uninhabitable.

[@dragonslayergod]

@@kre8or465 no digging or replacing they basically just kept building upwards

[@WhiteStar762]

both i think

[@twdog8106]

The Yuuzhan-Vong War and the Abeloth’s Corruption incidents; or as some nerds know it, that time Star Wars got a glimpse of the 40k universe...

[@This_Pleases_The_Nut]

Burn in Holy Fire

[@weltall7283]

You wonder why people hate 40k fans? Because the fanboys don't shut up about. They're different settings. Of course stuff is different.

[@topsmug3409]

Man this comment reminds me of how 40k is 1000000*10 more warhammy when it comes to how my comments are on youtube. Now I must find another comment section to evangelize to.

[@rayhankazianga6817]

@@weltall7283 you're so right. different settings, different rules.

[@weltall7283]

@@rayhankazianga6817 someone reasonable I see. If 40K fans want to talk shit, and won't acknowledge that most anime wrecks their precious setting, bring up Doctor Who or Star Trek. Those will absolutely tear 40K a new one

[@titan_o7]

I’d love to see something about someone going so far down that they run into one of the earliest cities that could look similar to ours with wheeled vehicles using fossil fuels and normal kinetic firearms. Of course it’d all be abandoned and decayed to the point of almost being unrecognizable but it’d be extremely cool. Perhaps there could be scarce pockets of original flora and fauna? Something to show how overpopulation can destroy an entire planet?

[@shcdemolisher]

So like ancient bandits and scavengers who see the surface weapons as the tools of the devil (as in seeing projectiles as the tools of heaven and blasters as the tools of hell), and vehicles that look like they came from mad max/borderlands. That would be something cool to explore in Star Wars! Ancient old roots being rediscovered by the modern age, and seeing how they would react, society wise and scientifically. :D

[@deeznuts-kw6yv]

@@shcdemolisher that sounds basically like a necromunda at that point

[@theevildrummingsithlord1492]

I doubt there would be any flora growing in such a dark environment. Plants still need light for photosynthesis. Maybe, instead, massive colonies of chemosynthetic bacteria that are so large that you can see 'em without any need for a microscope. Oh, and even better - they form all kinds of complex, intricate structures.

[@ascendant2-7]

To those who want an R-Rated Star Wars Show, Coruscant underground. I'll even go as far as going the Level 1 or Ground Level.

[@totallyaaron1686]

Eckhart: uploads a video Me: this is where the fun begins

[@rebelappliance771]

This looks like a job for DOOM GUY.

[@generalset]

Now its time to rip and tear!

[@Leitis_Fella]

I unironically want a Doom-style game set in the Star Wars universe with Sev/Clone Wick as the protag, and the Vong as the demons

[@lordcavendish2478]

BFG INTENSIFY!!!!!

[@dreadfulbadger]

@@Leitis_Fella that would be awesome!

[@Crick1952]

Honestly, every time I read a story that would dip into the Lower Levels, it sounded like it came from Doom

[@TheWarmachine375]

One solution to Coruscant Underworld turning into a literal Hell: *EXTERMINATUS!!!*

[@brentwhite7150]

You may fire when ready

[@self-satisfiedsmirk5544]

Honestly, at that point in Legends continuity, that might very well have been a, if not the, merciful alternative.

[@daedricmace919]

We need 3 forms of Exterminatus...And I ain’t talking about just Nukes or Virus-Bombs

[@scouttrooperhh-1487]

@Drake the Final Solution

[@mauroperezperez6385]

Did someone say EXTERMINATUS?

[@troublesomezorua]

You know you're in for a fun time when the story seems to have reached it's lowest and bleakest point, before hearing "So then Abeloth shows up..."

[@jakealter5504]

Abeloth made the undercity even worse than the vong did

[@shaq6976]

Eck: says stream „tonight“ Me watching this at 2 am: HÆHÆHÆHÆ

[@IrishPhoenix7]

So the life of the underworld of Coruscant is basically a constant state of the year 2020

[@jayrodmurderface]

Lol, more like every hive world in 40k

[@HopeFaithLove4]

jayrodmurderface hey Don’t say that we don’t want giant star destroyer showing up in July

[@scouttrooperhh-1487]

Yeah, lots of Burning Looting and Murder

[@iamafuckingfailure]

Nah, 2020 is worse, why? Well... *They aint gonna have youtube rewind 2020*

[@LifeIsntHealthy]

Correct

[@Couldnt_let_J.Marston_die]

I've always wondered how with thousands of levels built one on top of the other over millions of years the base levels near the surface of coruscant haven't collapsed and the whole city structure crumbled? That's without factoring in all the wars and massive space ships crashing into the planet knocking out support structures. Also if they have built that high into the atmosphere of coruscant wouldn't there be a lack of oxygen, or are they artificially creating oxygen for everyone to breathe on the uppermost levels of the planet?

[@shcdemolisher]

I would say artificially extended it so much that it became natural.

[@TheHorreK2]

I really like the idea of a City of layers after layers of newly build "citys" build on top of each other. I actually think that SWTOR did it quite well, with unknown Technology, aliens and more ancient stuff that no one understands due to its age buried in its depths

[@xendordawnburst9969]

I've always wondered if some new Darkside faction were to return, what if they took a bunch of nukes down into the depths of Coruscant and detonated them in key locations, cause the city to collapse inward! But this... this is definitely more terrifying!

[@piercepayumo4212]

Ultor: "Welcome to Hell."

[@unclesam5230]

Epic reference

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

I miss the Expanded Universe. I want more, but I don't want Disney to get their filthy paws on it and ruin that too

[@transferringchannels9225]

Punished "Venom" Snake 66 likes? Execute order 66.

[@gonzaloperalta2836]

Yeah, like Disney is ever going to adapt dark shit like this.

[@swaggyspaceman9805]

With the success of the Mandalorian and Kathleen Kennedy getting pushed out, I'm sure things will improve.

[@couragecrusader7649]

I wish Disney would decide to retcon the sequel trilogy..

[@Guyofscience]

Heh it gets much worse guys I’m from the future

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

So they basically conducted a chaos ritual dedicated to Khorn... damn, wrong universe

[@jasonskeans3327]

The under city of coruscant is just as bad if not worse then hive city's

[@yokgor4675]

Jason Skeans The underhives would want a word with you

[@kenhernandez8128]

New Jedi Order tells about underworld of Coruscant

[@carpemkarzi]

Fun vid as always. Just a side note but you have the only outro I consistently watch. The pure doggy joy always make me feel better.

[@DogeCop]

His outro is just so satisfying

[@Templar327]

"Tell him about the death clouds!" THE WHAT

[@jakealter5504]

Pyroclastic Flows, things got apocalyptic for a lot of coruscant (and especially the undercity) during the Jedi and GA’s war against the Lost Tribe and especially Abeloth

[@johnnycracker640]

At this point, abeloth has become the mascot for everything that is terrifying about star wars..

[@jakealter5504]

Agreed, she is literally one of the most powerful beings in Star Wars

[@ondrejvojta3882]

The idea of an underground society so vast and gigantic actually horrifies me , just imagine living there, in those corridors and tunnels which calling a maze would be an understatement. Seeing the horros of the underground hearing the sound of the empty abandoned tunnels the terrifing sound of machinery howls of unimaginable creatures.

[@Maribro4]

Coruscant had like 1000 years without attack and was relatively well off. Then in a relatively short period of time it went through hell and eventually became hell

[@jakealter5504]

The vong made life in the undercity like hell, abeloth actually turned it into hell

[@theunstoppabled3161]

You should cover the entire War with the Yuuzhan Vong from how it started to how it ended

[@heavyarms55]

The fall of Courscant is one of the most horrific moments in all of Star Wars. The first time I read Star by Star I almost outright cried. (I later did when a certain character dies) The imagery of the buildings collapsing, Vong dropships landing or air dropping down. The shields falling as the Vong rammed captured, fully loaded refugee ships into the shields.... It was a nightmare.

[@jakealter5504]

And then abeloth raised literal hell on the undercity 20 years later

[@heavyarms55]

@@jakealter5504 Fate of the Jedi has ideas I like but honestly I don't care for it. I felt like they wanted it to be another NJO, but they didn't want to commit to that many books so they jammed too much content into too few novels. And honestly I've always felt like the end of the NJO should have been the end of the era. There should have been a few decades of rebuilding and peace but they wanted the movie characters still involved and they were all in their 60s or 70s for Han, so...

[@jakealter5504]

@@heavyarms55 well they did have something close to that since there was only one major war in the 20 years after the Yuuzhan Vong War and corusant wasn’t really messed up during the second galactic civil war

[@sufianabuahmad7781]

I remember watching someone's video, saying that Level 0 was actually inhabited by a species who could only live in the insane amounts of pollution that was down there. Also a jedi temple many levels down from thousands of years ago was destroyed by the Sith and tainted so that it would always be s wound in the Force .

[@catdragon-6631]

Weren’t those the C’thon? Or is there something worse down there

[@Abegrizzly]

This whole video is basically "this was not helpful to the undercity"

[@Ashguy733]

This was my favourite part of the Fate of the Jedi books just how much of a hell Coruscant became.

[@jakealter5504]

Especially after abeloth was there since her hell affected the entire planet

[@AGaiman]

Makes Nar Shadda look cozy.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

You know what, I’ve been playing a game called space engineers, and I decided to make a battlestar like the Pegasus, only I called it the battlestar Eckhart 😊😊 in honour of this amazing channel

[@helohel5915]

Aye a SE player. Gl trying to make a proper mockup though, building system isn"t too flexible, better than it was before HD tho

[@lelkr]

good job, don't forget to get ammo.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

lelkr thanks! It took literal weeks to get it done! 😩 worth it 100%

[@helohel5915]

BTW, can you post the link for your ship here? I'm interested

[@darthvader4594]

This gonna be Earth at the end of 2020

[@LeglessWonder]

Bold of you to assume we make it that far

[@Reepicheep-1]

Buildings aren't tall enough.

[@nobleman9393]

Nah, we will be fine.

[@manyerrors3719]

@@Reepicheep-1 I like the fact that *that* of all things is what you decide is unrealistic. And honestly I would agree

[@Batkenpre]

@@manyerrors3719 ya I doubt we could do that lol it would have to be another planet

[@someweakguy405]

you know whats even better than the fact that this video is amazing? or the music? the fact that he keeps making amazing vids :)

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

It was a little refreshing to see halo gameplay in the background in the beginning

[@nuclearjanitors]

Go away.

[@rhymenoceros3303]

I really hope we get to see Abeloth in some future Star Wars property. In the hands of a competent writer or producer like Filoni I'm sure they could do a lot with her. Hell make she'd make a great antagonist for a future trilogy considering how terrifying and cerebral of a threat she is.

[@jayburn00]

I have gone into this before. Disney doesn't do scary. I doubt they would even do the goosebumps inspired Galaxy of Fear series despite it being for teenagers.

[@eds1942]

The Yuuzhan Vong and Lovecraftian-ish entities like Abeloth aren’t Disney’s style.

[@chrishess5526]

Plus let's be real here if they were to stay true to Abeloth then people in the theaters are gonna be scared shitless before that movie is over. Like we're gonna need a Hard R for the kinds of disturbing horror that Abeloth can bring. Maybe this is just my fear talking. God Abeloth is horrifying. Just those eyes and that smile.

[@kodyspicer41]

"This part is so funny": Tell then about the death clouds.

[@MoviesRemastered]

Very insightful. I'm trying to add Coruscant to TROS somehow as I love this planet. Great video!

[@thorshammer7883]

Could the Chimera of Resistance be able to beat back a demonic invasion with the demonic force that was invading Earth in Doom Eternal?

[@pale_lad1252]

Go to reddit, he doesn't do those type of videos.

[@pale_lad1252]

@Sam Guevenne well, he doesn't do them anymore sadly. I enjoyed those types of vids too, but seems he moved on.

[@comandercarnis]

Yeah big no m8, if modern forces of today hopped up on argent energy couldn't do it them the chimera who were struggling against an even weaker humanity wouldn't stand a chance.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@comandercarnis Details matter.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@pale_lad1252 Unless we suggest him to do them.

[@vapour8434]

This is why legends is the best sw comic material. It has something for everyone. There's tragedy, lovecraftian horror, hope, and so on

[@magolormemes7519]

It's neat to think that the run-down, destroyed buildings of Coruscant's underworld used to to be the impressive buildings and massive skyscrapers, but then they built more, burying them.

[@Le_Duck_]

I love your majestic description of the underworld, it reminds of the opening of a fan fic I read recently.

[@andrewtubbs9641]

Hey Eck, love your videos i just had a topic for another video i was wondering about: what happen to Dromun Kass and other old republic sith strongholds after the events of Star Wars: The old republic, as far as i know they are never mentioned again. Thanks!

[@ABadassDragon]

Most likely? Guarded by the Jedi for some time, maybe 100 ish years, strictly restricted area and eventually abandoned. Tombs and Sith buildings destroyed or buried, planets removed from star charts, or at least forgotten by the general populace of the galaxy, with more time passing eventually by most who were not Sith themselfs

[@ImpudentInfidel]

Dromund Kaas was actually introduced in the expansion to the first Jedi Knight game, not SWOTR. Basically it was abandoned and then forgotten.

[@jakealter5504]

@@ImpudentInfidel it was also in fate of the Jedi

[@TheMilitantHorse]

Canon: The galaxy is bleak, but there is light in the darkness! Legends: Everything is hell. It's just hell. No salvation. Only death.

[@TheAOGS]

Here's a big problem with these ecumenopoli and their 'too vast to track' populations: Somebody is in charge of making sure enough food makes it to the planet to ensure stability.

[@nicholaspeterman9111]

You make the mistake of assuming that the undercity is stable.

[@lokenontherange]

Not really. Most people are used to eating everyday multiple times but you don't need to do that. You can live eating once or twice a week. Even if you had the data on daily food consumption you couldn't make a reliable estimate because you can't know how much various populations are eating. You also can't account for cannibalism or people eating things like rats, trash, or lichen. No one person is going to have the data needed and that goes especially for areas where the government just doesn't give a shit.

[@thatzachguy76]

I love this bit about Legends. For some reason so many people hate the Vong but honestly I loved it. Everyone got slapped around, the New Republic got pushed so hard that it had to ally with the Remnant as well as the Empire of the Hand, a real coming together of enemies for the common good. I really suggest anyone who hasnt read legends about the Vong should give it a chance, it has some of the best stories from legends outside of Thrawn or the Jedi Order rebuilding.

[@emzonik8851]

I read NJO and I loved it too, tho in some places they might have gone a bit too far, however I nonetheless don't agree with people who say "oh, the Vong were the biggest enemy of the galaxy ever" or "The Empire are nice guys compared to the Vong". They shouldn't forget that the Empire under Palpatine is still the main enemy in SW, whether it's Legends or Canon and they are ment to be the worst, it was at Endor where the ultimate fate of the Galaxy was decided, not Yuuzhan'tar (the Vong in fact were doomed from the beginning, they could never win). And all the chaos tye Galaxy endured after Endor was essentially the price to pay for overthrowing Palpatine and disintegration of the Empire. But the price was worth it or else the meaning of the movies themselves is undermined, which I doubt was evwr the goal of any writer.

[@TKnightcrawler]

Cool story. I really want to see a game in the underworld. Not a set piece action game, something more RPG-like.

[@Brismo7]

a dungeon crawler, but set in the underworld.

[@sunso1991]

3:06 oh wow that reminds me of the Builders in the Tsutomu Nihei's "Blame!"

[@judaihyuga]

It's funny, for all the crazy shit Abeloth does in Fate of the Jedi, the overwhelming gap in power really hit me when she casually started multiple volcanic eruptions, on Corruscant of all places, with absolutely no effort. You can know someone's a nigh-all-powerful force god, but I'll be damned if scenes like that don't drive the point home.

[@jakealter5504]

And what’s scarier is that abeloth was actually getting stronger by feeding on the fear that was being generated

[@Tristan3D]

This is called a "Birch Planet". It was proposed as a concept by Paul Birch in the early 90's. It is basically a shell planet that needs, in its most extreme iteration, a black hole at its center to provide 1g gravity (becaus the hollowed out shell planet does not have enough mass to produce it on its own, also the different shells would otherwise experience wildly different g-forces the deeper they go).

[@XLjackbot]

What do we know about the moons of Coruscant? I’d imagine they are strategically important at least given the location. #AskEck

[@jakeg3733]

It's mind boggling to think of a city like this. An ecumenopolis. Over 5000 levels, built up over a period of 50-100 thousand years covering the entire planet. The lower levels _would_ be extremely hazardous. Our planet is gradually moving in this direction, every day I see "development" spreading, and the areas that are already developed gradually start building higher. Ancient cities were built in layers like this, it's just crazy to imagine this on a 100,000 year timespan, provided the technology exists to keep these buildings stable. They must be in the upper atmosphere by now

[@kingnikolaj]

How the hell can the lowerst/lower support pillars hold up all those millions of tons of building?

[@TealWolf26]

I almost wonder if there is a layer of metamorphic rock composed of plasteel and various alloys encasing the actual planet surface by now from all the compression of substructures.

[@eds1942]

The compressive forces of the towers and city scape is diffused across the surface of massive city blocks (which houses more city and infrastructure), the compressive forces from those blocks are diffused by resting on even larger blocks which diffuse the weight across the entire surface of planet. Overtime, the lowest levels are compressed into a new planetary crust. Active support systems (such as repulser lifts or magma pumps) are used to alleviate some of the stress in certain situations. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the buildings were mobile or even space worthy either.

[@ATruckCampbell]

@@eds1942 I wonder what the levels just above that look like...

[@eds1942]

@@ATruckCampbell giant turtles

[@ZETH_27]

Coruscant is basically like a tree, where the deeper down you go, the older layers of its history you see.

[@Section8Spectre]

Such a fascinating aspect of Star Wars I wish we got to see explored more deeply in legends, especially post-Vong War. God 1313 would have been so awesome. What a shame

[@jaylowlp6181]

Your videos and your song used make me really indulge into star wars and make it seem like a real Reality until the end, when the outro fades away, and so does all of my thoughts

[@tigerivi1977]

Imagine being an engineer on coruscant tasked to fix the buildings foundations, I would quit immediately

[@tungie9734]

Even IF you were it would probably be impossible given the extreme decay and every other obstacle far enough below. I wonder how many people or machines you'd need to maintain such a gigantic structure. Did they even explain how the planetside city still stands?

[@beetleb.1418]

"Enough selling out ... let's roll the intro." You ROCK! Fun, yes. And dark ... sad. It makes the imagination spin and reel ... and not in a hopeful way. And the loss of life being likely in the billions ... WOW. Dark, indeed. I can't wait to get to the Abeloth videos....

[@slyxgunr3286]

I love halo, great choice in gameplay

[@grogu425mandalorian3]

I actually started watching your videos and it's good ,nice knowledge about star wars .and it made me wanna learn more about the star wars stories

[@isakhagg243]

Well then. Never encountered one of your videos exactly 1 minute after you release it. Kinda weird but nice, as I’ve never seen a video of yours when it hasn’t gotten 100+ likes yet. Rest assured, I’m going to press that like button.

[@loltwest9423]

That moment Eck mixes his notes for Hive Worlds with Coruscant's Underworld. :P

[@deltalord6969]

So the coruscant underworld is my school?

[@thesecondromuluan8216]

Mine too.

[@doorstopper674]

SchOOL BaD

[@thesecondromuluan8216]

@@doorstopper674 Indeed.

[@Cobretsov2022]

StuDYING

[@doorstopper674]

No im mocking you

[@LeodiAstoriaXIII]

Coruscant undercity sounds like the Megastructure of BLAME! I hope there'll be a series about it soon.

[@PauzSycho]

Coruscant underworld is present day Minneapolis

[@kanseidorifto2430]

True.

[@Xkhaosxzeus]

I love when u talk about the lower levels of Corasant or Abaloth so this video was a real treat

[@vitoriturriaga3468]

I honestly thought the Coruscant undercity subplot was leading to a much larger story. Guess we'll never know

[@whitewolf9088]

I would love to see a movie/show/etc. where they try to get to the center of Coruscant (especially depicting the lowest levels). Preferably one that doesn't shy away from the spooky, horrifying elements.

[@trickster20644]

If you are you're own sponsor, it isn't so much selling out as it is self-advertising. ;P

[@moonlighthunter5421]

I was not expecting Courusant to have this sort dark secrets beneath its surface

[@211pirate6]

I’d fight my way to the top by any means possible.

[@jasonskeans3327]

Some people there don't even know that there is a sun or surface

[@mateofischer5860]

You have the best sponsor

[@XAlted1]

Is there a video about how exactly Coruscant became a 2 layered planet??