How The Duo “Milli Vanilli” Got Caught as The Biggest FRAUD in Music

How The Duo “Milli Vanilli” Got Caught as Music's Biggest FRAUD
Music industry was undergoing a radical transformation. The pop culture scene was awash with catchy tunes, vibrant music videos, and charismatic performers. It was a time when artists could become overnight sensations, and Fab Morvan and Rob Pilatus were determined to be among them. Fab Morvan, a charismatic French-born singer, and Rob Pilatus, a strikingly handsome German dancer, were individually pursuing their dreams in the music world when fate brought them together in Munich, Germany. Both had faced their share of struggles and setbacks, but they shared a common vision: to conquer the music industry.
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[@ericanicolebarton]

They are not imposters and never were. They were scammed by a bully named FRANK FARIAN.

[@gin40]

Exactly!

[@ChrisJohnson-hk6es]

Nobody here would turn down thousands upon thousands of dollars to lip sync. That man that did this to them deserves all of the shame

[@MyHandle4455]

They were culpable for their offenses. End of the day they went along with the lie. They didn’t have to but they did.

[@ericanicolebarton]

@@MyHandle4455 they were not at fault. They signed a contract and were promised actual singing on their albums. Frank later let them know that they could not sing any of the songs AFTER they were in the contract. They were scammed. It's not hard to understand. And it was not about going along with the plan, they were FORCED to do it because of the contract that was already signed. There was also no legal representation to protect their interests. So how is it still their fault? It's Frank's fault.

[@gin40]

@@ericanicolebarton exactly 💯

[@Shoggy56]

We're tired of this story. This had been happening all the time in the music and film industry where actors use doubles for scenes they can't play or refuse to do for whatever reason. The boys didn't refuse to sing. They weren't allowed to and it wasn't their idea. The stories should be focusing on the real brains behind the scam and stop blaming the two boys who in my opinion were the actual victims.

[@bluubird7077]

That would be an interesting listen but you know devils speak through puppets & refuse to comment when held to the fire they lash on everything else around them.

[@carolbailey7977]

Exactly. Frank Farion hid behind his security and lawyers. Then, did it again with another group! But he's been forgiven and forgotten. It's been 30+ years. How about moving on to another story? Most singers today use auto tune. They can't even use their raw voices to lip sync to. Lol

[@jaymartin95]

🥱

[@GotterVibez]

What other band is hiding the real singers during concerts?

[@BestBecky78]

​@@GotterVibez CC music factory was another...

[@sparrow2075]

They were adored by fans not just for the vocals but the image they portray ( fashion ) and their dancing capabilities.

[@Fabienna]

why biggest fraud? The whole music industry is like that. They were just chosen to be the buh man.

[@diversity1015]

Thank you. We fell in love with them for their beauty. These guys were cute, could dance, and had taste. They are the reason we love these songs. I love them

[@whatyousay9816]

AND the people who put them out there should've also been removed from recording. DISGRACE!!!

[@teddyjackson1902]

Nah, take your emotion out of it and you’ll realize what a crazy but genius project it was. Since technology has advanced to make horrible voices tolerable, milli vanilli style composites have become the template for industry music production. Overall it sucks and it’s plastic but people eat it up. Who do you think writes most of the hooks in modern R&B and rap? Some of the most iconic beats and fills in the history of “black music” were written by white producers. It’s a dirty little open secret. On the flip side their impact on the psyche of the public helped give alt rock/grunge momentum imo.

[@chadergeist]

I wouldn't give my album back. I enjoy it and it is a music masterpiece regardless of who sang it or not.

[@olafurthorarensen7918]

Exactly! Spot on. Thats my view too.

[@BrendanMcClelland]

Frank Farian should've seriously been sued big. He was the creator of the deception and he should seriously be ashamed of what he did. He ruined the lifes of Rob and Fab and he betrayed the actual singers of the group and they wanted to be famous themselves. Not only that he swindled money from the fans and betrayed them so badly. Farian seriously deserves no honor and no respect for what he did and he's the one who should be owing money.

[@gin40]

Exactly 💯

[@cassiya100]

Totally agree. he done something similar with Boney M. If I'm not mistaken Farian is the deep male voice and not that black dude.

[@davinastanton3865]

​@@cassiya100 Yes you are correct.

[@olayemianimashaun3298]

I found out about him tonight and I still won’t know him tomorrow..

[@darkstatehk]

Fab has since sung this song live and his real voice is amazing.

[@KITT-K2000]

yes he is so good now, its sad they didn't give them any chances

[@marciawebber6723]

Don’t care. They make me happy in the 80s

[@feistygrandma2636]

Jennifer Lopez been doing that for years using Ashanti's voice and any other person voice that's she can get away with, so leave Milli vanilli alone dang

[@tasmeenbaker9912]

And yet people act like she's the goat, plus the only reason she became famous in the first place was because of her role as Selena Quintanilla from that movie that came out 2 years after her death. If Selena was still alive, we probably wouldn't have Jlo.

[@SparkleP8nter]

Ashanti's, Christina Millians, and Natasha Ramos voices, Actually... There's more I just don't know who

[@SparkleP8nter]

​​@@tasmeenbaker9912if Mariah never divorced, we wouldn't have JLo either. JLos career was "created" to get back at Mariah by her ex hubby

[@karlfortuin5794]

I met them back in 91 during the club mtv tour with downtown Julie brown they were very laid back chill guys & yes they were destined to be music stars expecially rob he was very drivin & it's a shame how the music business treated these guys & rob never got a chance to experience his musical talent except on their rob n fab album which was a amazing job & they should have gotten credit were credit was due!!!

[@Inseezie]

So young, so gorgeous, they were just kids and it was all so unfair. 😢

[@diversity1015]

The title to this video is so fake. These guys were not imposters. They didn't fake anything. It was an agreement between the label, them and the voices behind the scene. They were handsome, had taste, could dance and act. Perfect for the roll. Everyone involved was aware. They were a team. They are milli Vanilli period.

[@crystalmason829]

I enjoyed everything about them Rob and Fab were the epic beginning of my childhood I will never forget the summer of 89 I was dancing and singing and I couldn’t get enough of their videos as a tot poor guys what a tragic ending

[@iamnaturalistic4532]

Crystal i agree with you !! those guys were good performers💯

[@eriksturdevant8589]

I was in college when this happened. Many suspected they were a "studio band" from the start, and weren't "shocked" by the "scandal.". Milli Vanilli, along with other '80's bands, were displaced by grunge, rap and industrial music (Nirvana, NWA, Nine Inch Nails) almost overnight.

[@mrsexyhair1]

They definitely got shafted by their music company. They were so entertaining & no other group matched their energies. What it did to Rob is terrible but I'm happy to see Fab is still going👍🏾 I was too young to buy their music but its still fun pretending its them 😂👏🏾👏🏾🤣

[@ChrisJohnson-hk6es]

Hit the nail on the head. Pay me crazy money to lip sync? I'm gonna lip sync my heart out. I don't blame them one bit!

[@itsdeeannaagain]

What I never understood is why they were hired by the original singers and then criticized by them after they won awards. Never thought that was right. Basically they were hired to do a job and was successful.

[@jaycee1529]

They got jealous

[@mattdawg83686]

And here we are over two decades into the 21st Century, and tons of acts lip sync and no one questions it.

[@parallaxhunter1476]

ya right, i agree sir.

[@mattdawg83686]

@@ericeck because back then it was a huge deal. You had to get over on pure talent alone, and here in the 21st Century not so much. You obviously weren’t there, so of course you can’t understand.

[@jasonito23]

@@ericeck - Lip synching is lip synching. What's the difference if you're lip synching your own voice or someone else's voice. If you can't actually sing the song, then you can't sing it. That's why people say it. Alot of talentless artists who look good go into a studio and have their tracks fixed to sound better than what they actually are. Might as well be lip synching someone else's voice. Milli Vanilli's success shows that people are more interested in what they are looking at rather than the music. Otherwise the original singers would have been stars long before Rob and Fab showed up. And we don't know who is lip synching who. You assume that Taylor Swift is lip synching Taylor Swift but you don't know. No one knows that on Bobby Brown's hit song Every Little Step, the vocals of the chorus change from Bobby Brown to Ralph Tresvant because Bobby Brown never showed up to finish the track? Lip synching is lip synching.

[@SparkleP8nter]

JLo Can't even sing... At all... She's spent her entire career stealing voices and pretending it's her It's time for JLOs spotlight

[@StarrdigitalProductions]

Before they were exposed, I always thought the voices just didn’t seem to match. Now Fab is performing their songs, and he actually have a really nice voice.

[@pricepatrick644]

Their manager exposed them, he offered them 17 million to do another album, but they wanted their own voices heard. They refused and he exposed them, told to them by a friend who was their assistant.

[@shanware2]

No they wanted more money and to use their real voices or they were going to tell the truth their manager didn’t like that so he exposed them instead

[@lstruggy]

$17M back then was huge money I wonder why they declined it

[@shanware2]

@@lstruggy they were tired of lying

[@SparkleP8nter]

JLo never stopped, She made her entire career faking who she was. At least Fab & Rob said no... It speaks volumes.

[@gem4life933]

Why blame then, when it was also they're company behind them. On top of the fact that those 2 could actually sing, but went given the opportunity

[@garyyoung3367]

Stop calling them frauds. They didn't do anything that's no common today.

[@elijahhacks6399]

There should be a movie about the two.

[@cazi5759]

Actually, there is one… came out December 21st, 2023… it‘s called GIRL YOU KNOW IT‘S TRUE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqG0qJych8ifja8si=0zYmCfkpAQaTZ9r3

[@ridemsk]

There's a movie "Girl you know it's true" from December 2023. The movie seems to be successful. I watched the trailer.

[@jessemorgan7007]

I have never seen an artist skyrocket to the top like did in 89.They were so huge!!! If they had actually sang those songs they very well cold have changed the course of music history.

[@SupportGamin2024]

I don't know why those two got so much hate,When plenty of people lip sync

[@lovelymelanin9336]

I don’t either! I wish mankind would of showed them more grace!

[@ljslawncarellc4058]

Especially nowadays

[@ljslawncarellc4058]

A lot of artists today dance on the stage while the lyrics play in the back ground

[@MissLadyG99]

They never sang on the album. On stage they were lip syncing to other people's voices and not their own.

[@avace917]

They weren't singing their own records. Others were exposed for the same thing. Definitely a no no back then

[@daniellepreyar]

They were handsome energetic young guys who took a life changing opportunity. I dont think they are solely to blame. The producer orchestrated this. I think its sad they were villanized for this when people like JLO and others have been using other peoples voicces and getting away with it for years.

[@iamnaturalistic4532]

Who gives a damn if those guys wrote the songs or not ! the fact that they we're able to perform those songs with the dance moves they had to entertain people was hella Good !

[@Somberdemure]

Apparent the fans do.🤡

[@MissLadyG99]

People were upset because they never sang on the album and they were lip syncing to other people's voices during their live performances.

[@jasonito23]

@@MissLadyG99 - People were mad because they acted like they appreciated music but Milli Vanilli exposed them as fraudulent. People were mad because they wanted to imagine that their favorite singers were models with dreads and jeans, but found out that their favorite singers were middle aged, overweight men with slacks and jerry curls. LOL! So, who are the real frauds?

[@MissLadyG99]

@@jasonito23 The real frauds are the masterminds behind stuff like this (aka those who thought it was a goog idea to create groups like an pull one over on the public). Milli Vanilli was based on a lie that didn't need to take place (Rob and Fab thought it was wrong but they were young had been manipulated into doing it). You can try and blame the people all you want but there is no justification for lying to the public.

[@CA-sk7du]

Thank you for this documentary.

[@starfox9894]

They got caught because the original singers, that were even in the studio recording vocals for them, got jealous that MV got a Grammy and they did not.

[@spider82666]

They should've taught the two background singers how to dance, and the singers should've taught Milli Vanilli how to sing. Then relaunch the group as a quartet.

[@Cuebix]

I have them in my playlist and I care less of who the real voices were. They are the real deal for me.

[@outofthisworldmarketingllc7023]

The industry could have let those men live. No other two could have been Milli Vanilli

[@EternaResplandiente]

Bring them back! I love "Girl You Know It's True"

[@Aanita75]

How? Only Rob is left alive

[@Candyprincess971]

@@Aanita75yeah and the original singer Davis died too

[@shawanatimberlake7036]

They did great performance and its not their fault. They were bullied into a scam. Frank should have been the blame.

[@joie186]

Rob was born in Munich, Germany, not New York as narrated in this video.

[@Candyprincess971]

Thank you

[@pardwayne]

Thankfully, no one has ever lip-synched since then, right? Right?

[@leroybarnett5396]

Trust me there are others today who are doing the same thing that they did they just haven't got caught

[@Candyprincess971]

Jlo

[@jayrellium]

No one can deny, they were just ahead of their time.

[@chyllhollywood]

I got into a heated debate about these guys after I heard them speak. I told this guy there is no way they are singing. He must’ve thought I was a hater 😂. They were popular and the people loved them while it lasted. Crazy how long ago this happened. 😮

[@Candyprincess971]

Yes Rob had a German accent and Fab to this day still has a French accent lol but both could actually sing

[@RedCharlie1000]

I loved these guys. I’m sorry they received such terrible hate. The maker of this plan got off Scott free. That’s terrible. The way it normally goes though. Those with the cash get away with so much more than they should. Terrible the one died under such circumstances. After all that fame. My heart hurts. But Fab can definitely sing!

[@ahfez]

The vocal alone couldn't make it to those successes. Call them fraud, call them anything, without their charisma, without their images the album isn't going anywhere.

[@Bigandbad1985]

I’m sure there is lots of artist who do this exact thing but they were the first ones to get caught

[@Quinoezi]

I saw one of those guys in hartford ct smoking crack outside a homeless shelter. Some kids hit him with a paint gun and everyone laughed. He was so pissed.

[@marchill-uh3zh]

In Millie Vanille's defense, they were two young men trying to get into the music business. They got an opportunity and ran with it. This could've happened to anyone. These guys did what their management told them to do. Let's give these guys a pass.

[@dingo.D]

I see your point, but I really don't think that this could've happen to anyone, aka that everybody that want to be i music business would take that shot. One thing is to sing other people's lyrics ect. but to not even sing on the recorded records is a whole other thing.. Just my opinion :)

[@ChrisJohnson-hk6es]

If someone offered me $20,000 or more to lip sync..... Guess what? I am lip syncing my heart out! 😂 I will never blame these 2 for what they did. I blame the man who set this all up.

[@aprilstanley8708]

agreed ,blame management not the artists.

[@sunshine18102]

I seen them on TV when it did happen and I felt sorry for them.

[@thunderwolf5969]

Blame it on the rain

[@zzzzxxxx341]

It was the fault of the original singers who approved of lending their voices and then because of jealousy they belittled the two guys. What did they get of it in the long run? NOTHING!!!! WORTHLESS JEALOUSY!!!

[@CTheMuse]

What kind of acid is this lady on? She called their dance moves infectious?! 🤯🤣 Holy shit Batman. NO!

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

I ain’t even mad at them. At least they weren’t making music about killing or drugs.

[@adrianparks9051]

They probably said NO to something

[@user-hd4dr3uw1k]

I'll never understand why it was such a big deal that they were lip syncing the live show? Do people not know that more than 95 percent of music artists do the very same thing with their own live shows? Look at Beyonce, spears, and many many more musicians!!!

[@FlorGonzalgo-nm7gy]

Not in the philippines ..here in our country all filipino singers are singing live ..we dont lipsync..we can sing live anywhere everywhere...

[@shanware2]

How don’t u understand? It wasn’t their voices.

[@yaxcine]

Fab and Rob wasn't the impostors As some like to call them . They are victims of the producers who made of them fake cartoon stars

[@jahboy699]

let haters hate but Milli, Vanelli was the best

[@cbonilla598]

Still gotta love the music 🎶..no one is perfect.

[@marylut6077]

The issue these days is singers who get pitch tuned in Studio to perfect pitch. The public is still being hoodwinked

[@DevlinTay]

Those two guys are as much the victims of the whole thing as us listeners. The real villain was Frank Farian. We've known this for years, it's time any social media mention of this particular scandal point the finger at the right villain. Frank Farian.

[@Watersart___]

No wonder they used the pretty boys.

[@pbxh6740]

They weren’t so much “caught” as their producer failed them. They were made to lip sync as part of their contract.

[@Mang523]

I still hav the MV album & the real MV album too. Both album are wonderful & I lov them. For me that duo Rob & Fab are great performer. This is not about only artist lies, but bigger issue is : marketing way of industty elites. We can see so many artist with autotunes nowadays. Today industty only sell performers. Today only few real artists. Even grammy winners are the same as billboard winners. Well, blame it on the producer. The music industry

[@THEBIGC-ey6ms]

Funny how “authenticity” is the main idea, yet the music nowadays is lacking it…

[@shanware2]

Hell give me millions of dollar I’d lip sync too 😂

[@Michael-ni9fs]

The real milli vanilli is the combination of this 2 beautiful dancers and the hiding ugly singers at the back. If it happens that way then its not their fault but their manager. This guy can sing after all.

[@patrickcollins1855]

I was a teen when they hit the scene. I liked the songs, but I thought it was weird that they song English perfectly. Yet, they couldn't speak English well in interviews. I knew something was wrong. Them not being the actual singers was the last thing on my mind. It was mind-blowing for a teenage me.

[@krawl04]

I hope 80s fashion never comes back

[@ravpol1440]

These were the jams back then lol I was like 10 when the song came out

[@michaelsmiley15]

Because there manager signed them to an illegal contract The man was know to have his artists lip sync The record company could have stopped it when they found out and they didn't Watch behind the music milli vanillin or the new documentary on paramount+ Everybody who knew and didn't blow the whistle is complicit

[@dallas214oakcliff4]

Tj be honest was just playing they song in the car today 😂😂😂

[@BiGArm-YankEeSLuGgeR]

These kind of crappy news is just garbage RIP Rob.Fab Morvan is a person who has a great heart , he is no stranger and also is one of the only celebrity witch will not leave u alone and reply to your comment, he is a great singer and to prove it check out his concert that he is still performing tell this day and has greAt vocals and new music “ONE”

[@clasicradiolover]

I tried to buy their music before they took it out of the store. I liked the singing and I like the front men. They had much tragedy afterwards. Leave them alone.

[@ultravioletpisces3666]

Show business is fake. It’s always fake. But you can’t let the facade slip… that’s the golden rule

[@rogerdelillo2394]

I never. Understood why they just didnt promote the real singers and had Rob And Fab perform dancing and acompanying vocals and toured like that?

[@Candyprincess971]

Rob was born in Germany of an African American soldier stationed in Germany he never was born in New York. You can actually hear his German accent in interviews that’s why he and Fab(who’s from Guadeloupe, French Caribbean)vocals weren’t used.

[@tomturelur9191]

And guess what... Fab trained singing and is performing the old songs singing himself... and he does well... not a spectacular voice, but it sounds quite good.

[@silverstream4585]

The producer of the album is really the guilty one. I'm surprised that he wasn't blacklisted?

[@TarotTanja]

They say, authenticity is an even higher vibration than love. But neveretheless, I loved "milli vanilli" back in the day and I still do, because to me it´s not a problem that they were lip syncing. They were great performers and dancers.

[@GodBlessGodBless1227]

Did they really think they could lip sync their way into the HOF?

[@perguto]

Imagine how easily the tragedy could've been avoided if Farian, when forming the group, had just put all 4 guys into the band, Morvan and Pilatus mostly as dancers like Bobby Farrell in Boney M.

[@TooSkinnyKenny]

many people didn't notice that the credits on the album didn't actually SAY they sang, but since their faces and names were on the cover people just assumed they sang. It was misleading but not really dishonest.

[@Steven-hk2wb]

Good clip about Rob and Fab. You should make another one about how they were threatened and controlled by the record machine into keeping silent and how they got scammed, thinking they were going to be on the record.

[@CleanMusicLover229]

A lot of people don't know that "Girl You Know It's True" is a cover.

[@liamfitzgerald7528]

These days they'd just be stars. No controversy. They would have tuned, doubled, and layered all the vocals and it wouldn't be any different than any other song today.

[@tukangrepet118]

RemixDJ mana ada salahnya😂😂😂

[@vickynichols7308]

They got a raw deal .

[@segzy05]

they were sacrificed, but JLo was not

[@JokersWild70]

At least that one dude invented the Pilates machine, so good on him. I think the other guy is a professional dog walker or something

[@antonnyo3694]

"Milli Vanilli" was awesome.

[@bronzemen34]

Don’t care what anyone says…this GROUP was good for other reasons…they weren’t as bad as the greatest of them all BONEY M…..there’s your imposters!!!!……none of em sung at all……they could but they didn’t…..FACTS

[@carmenpilatus]

Why can't we do proper research now? My brother Robert was born on June 8th 1964 in Munich Germany. We were both adopted by a German couple. He was 3 years old at the time. Robert grew up quite normally and did an apprenticeship as a retail salesman. but was also a breakdancer.

[@thunderwolf5969]

I think if anything we should all blame it on the rain

[@leelee185]

TEAM MILLI VANILLI, REAL SINGERS AND FAB AND ROB. ALSO, THERE A NEW DOCUMENTARY ON PARAMOUNT TV ABOUT MILII VANILLI RECENTLY RELEASED.

[@alas3696]

So are we expecting a reunion concert in the future 😂

[@GeorgeOfTheJungle.]

80's Rocked - Remember their hits in the night clubs - We were too busy parting to be concerned over the miming - However the Club DJ's did suddenly stop playing their anthems after the news broke out

[@Paulymuscles]

I still love their music

[@bingtoledo6970]

Many artist now adays sang not with their voice . They are still Milli Vanilli for me

[@MissouriPA]

And why, I ask you, did they just not get them some singing lessons? How bad could they have been that anyone would think it was a good idea to do something this outrageous?!! I mean if they sang like Mike Tyson, maybe, but only Mike Tyson is that bad, yet they still let him sing in Hangover 2. It’s not like their songs required the range of Freddie Mercury or something. This was at a time when synthesizers & other such sound equipment that could help a brotha out were all the rage, if needed. I had recently bought their album when this announcement was made. I was so upset, but not at them. I didn’t think they should have given back their Grammys. I remained a fan, (just look at em!) and I still have that album in my entertainment center that I’m looking at right now. I’ve always felt bad for how things turned out for these guys. They were talented & didn’t deserve this bs. And now everybody knows what cesspools the music industry & Hollyweird are. Either sell your soul to the devil or suffer at the hands of those who will.

[@anthonyslaughter1419]

Milli Vanilli may of got caught but they can back as rob and fab and proved they could sing unlike new kids on the block.

[@MissLadyG99]

Rob and Rob were done wrong. Fab can sing. Rob was a rapper. New Kids On The Block can sing.

[@kryptomiadeathmetalizer8628]

they are my childhood memories back in time, their music and dance is so good.

[@patrickmccarron5059]

44 BC - Brutus 30 AD - Judas 1790 - Benedict Arnold 1940 - Vidkun Quisling 1950 - The Rosenburgs 1990 - Milli Vanilli (Famous Betrayals in History)

[@rhemtro]

2024 - Drake

[@jamesmuller1481]

They shoulda just danced on stage while the original singers sang the songs. I woulda been ok with that.

[@ChrisJohnson-hk6es]

Newbies dreaming of becoming famous.... Asked to lip sync? Who would turn that down? I don't blame them one bit. I blame the man that paid them and asked them to do this. These 2 were simply getting paid to do what the boss told them to do. Look at the music today! So much lip syncing going on. They did deserve more financially than what they got.

[@megradorodvarez6788]

Frank Farian is like a teacher jealousy of successful students...

[@trinorp101]

The real voices are even more impostors than Rob & Fab. And then, to make matters worse, they had the shamelessness to release an album like "Real Milli Vanilli".

[@joannas7927]

The documentary was fantastic. The media were vicious, and should have gone after their producer. Privileged rich get off the hook once again.

[@agnes14ish]

They're not the only one's there are loads of others who lip sync, so why were they hated.

[@Somberdemure]

They didn't even sing their own songs!