How the Germans Came to Terms with the Holocaust - Germany's Psychological Journey

[@HenryStewart]

Holocaust denial or antisemitic comments will be deleted

[@polishgigachad7097]

The goal of German policy was to create a living space for Germans in Central-Eastern Europe. ✡️ were not an obstacle to achieving this goal (✡️ did not feel any emotional connection with Poland). Concentration camps in German-occupied Poland were mainly used to imprison Poles, Polish elites, intelligentsia, university professors and Catholic priests. ✡️ elites managed ghettos, obeyed German orders, and collaborated with the Soviets in the Soviet-occupied eastern part of Poland. Their "honeymoon" ended when the Germans decided to liquidate the ghettos and attack Soviet Russia.

[@Christmas-dg5xc]

Of course it happened, but for what good reason do all the rest of the similar events of the 20th century get almost no attention? R. J. Rummel estimated the grand total of such victims was 262m (including the 6m, and this doesn't even count war casualties.) Where are all the movies and documentaries for the other 97%? By their lack of attention to these, people are practically saying they happened, but they don't care that they did, which I think is even worse than denying some of them. And in how much trouble would/should someone get if they were to say Pol Pot had been innocent? It's worth thinking about why they wouldn't. Perhaps some day people will come to understand that all life has equal value.

[@t700e]

It’s unfortunate that this centuries-old hatred still exists. As a black man, my heart goes out to all Jewish people. May we never forget history. 🙏🏾

[@polishgigachad7097]

​@@t700eThe ✡️s cry out in pain as they hit people. "Compared to this, Auschwitz was just a triffle" - Captain Witold Pilecki (Inmate 4859) said about the interrogations in a communist prison conducted by Józef Goldberg and his homies

[@t700e]

@@erobwen This is his channel. He has the freedom to moderate this space how he pleases. There are other spaces available to those who wish to express “other opinions”.

[@kraetivoffm]

As a german, born in Frankfurt am Main in the mid seventies, I have to congratulate you for this very detailed and elaborate video on this very sensitive subject for the most of us. What is especially interesting, is the fact, how the the perspective changed over the generations after the war. And I can say for myself, that I’m personally very thankful for the liberation from the Nazi regime through the allied forces. It gave us not only a chance to develop into one of the most prosperous societies on the globe. But also to see ourselves as an eternal reminder what can happen to any society if we let the guard down, while evil ideologies can erode democratic structures in a whimp. That must never happen again. Not here, not anywhere.

[@Atherosdel]

I never thought I would see it in the USA but there he is Hitler 2.

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

@@Atherosdel are you referring to the antisemitic activities and protest that has actually turned ride is here lately especially on 2000 campuses? It’s awful and so sad that young lines have been twisted just being in college or junior high and high school. I didn’t know if you were referring to that which has been going on that really bothers me because I don’t know where our country goes from here or if you’re referring to a president.. President Biden doesn’t say anything about it and if anybody were to be so ugly to Black people or Hispanics, or gay and homosexual people, or Islamic people, he would be yelling and screaming calling people Islamophobic, or homophobic. Only heard when Obama was president was house systematically racist America was and being born in 1967 and thankfully going to a Dee segregated school in 1973 I didn’t see that. We all grew up together and we were friends and so close by junior high and high school that we were as siblings. Here we are at 56-60 years old and we still keep in touch with each other.! we talk daily on social media and check in on one another and our school gets together every year and our graduating class will have a cookout at the park or something and we’re leaving invite other people who graduated a year or two or after us. My family is also vibrational so it really bothers me to hear Obama and Biden say that because I studied history before going to law school and I know what happened in the 1950s and 1960s as well as the late 1800s and even the early 20th century when a black men who served in World War I were treated horribly & they were given medals further and relax in world war one, but they wore them on their uniforms are mentioned it people would be so ugly to them. I am so thankful to God that part of American history is over and I’ve always viewed what happened in Germany with the rise of the Nazi party and everything that occurred after 1930 is that the German people and their country was invaded and seized by the Nazis before anybody else. We have to remember that Hitler was never elected but he was appointed chancellor about the president in 1933 and the German people had only elected maybe 75 to 100 Nazis in the parliament and despite knowing how rough the brown shirt or SA were 1930-34, the president still appointed Hitler as chancellor, and then suddenly the president died around a year later, and then Hitler seized total power to the people in Germany did not have a say, and the propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels what is the biggest anti-Semite of all. It was he and not Adolf Hitler that started Kristallnacht with the Nazi police, and whenever Gobles would talk to Hitler in power that Hitler was definitely antisemitic, but he was not so much as Goebbles & Himmler. Because everybody was competitive and seeking favor with Hitler, Joseph Goebbels, and Himmler worked together as head of the SS and Gestapo for Himmler in head of the propaganda for Joseph and it turned into a nightmare and Hitler was ashamed because that’s why it being anti-Jewish anti-communist an anti-Slavic he did not want Germany looking bad, but after Kristallnacht in that already happened

[@mistermax3034]

Any thoughts on Gaza?

[@CatBack94]

​​@mistermax3034 no one cares

[@mistermax3034]

@@CatBack94 Most of the world seems to.

[@petercermak4095]

My family had our hotel taken away by the Germans then the Soviets. In 2007, we went back to visit long lost family and our heritage. Dad showed us great grandfather's property. It's thriving. I asked why don't we stake our claim? "Because, said dad, they would have us killed." Russian mafia. His friend's son mysteriously disappeared a few years earlier after attempting something similar. The world is not fair.

[@sabinegroe2006]

But not in 2007 ! You could have made a claim

[@sabinegroe2006]

My family was German , but my grandfather was a social Democrat. We have lost everything too and he perished

[@mrfester42]

The world is much more than "not fair". It's absolutely brutal. The methods for this brutality have changed through the ages but at it's core it remains the same.

[@maggiew2167]

My husband’s German grandparents lived in Hamburg during the WW2. After it was over they converted to Mormonism and were brought to the US (Utah). His grandma journaled her life during the war. My in-laws reverence for her journal astounds me. She states how she witnessed everything that was done to Jews and that they were taken away. But never shows any type of sympathy or compassion for them. It’s just written about matter of factly and w resentment towards them. She puts more emotion into describing the rationing, lack of jobs, restrictions the German ppl had to endure. And once the Jews were gone she stopped mentioning them at all. My in laws say, oh how she suffered. I’m like, are you kidding me? She sounds horrible and like a Nazi. She only converted to Mormonism to get a free ride, fast track to the US. She remained resentful of Jews her whole life and was a racist/bigot to anyone who wasn’t white or a dif religion. My MIL is her daughter, born in the US and she’s a racist bigot as well. So are her siblings. My husband despises how his mom’s fam is and rarely has anything to do w them. The Germans of that time said and did what they needed to for the world to forgive them, but they remained silently hateful of the Jews and absolutely KNEW/witnessed what was done to the Jews. Maybe not every detail, but when they’re all gone how DONT you know? And their children absolutely were taught that same hatred. Hopefully the hatred will die out for good.

[@taliabraver]

Never mess with the Jewish people ,God will punish you!I will make you a great nation,I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you!!!!!

[@MsBadBody]

Omg. Your story is real and shocking to me. Of course idk you but you are living during my time so I feel it. I never understood why so many European nations hated Jews. What did they do that was so bad to get treated like this? Im a black a woman who has worked with them, had a business dealing, seen, lived near and slept with one lol and they are so nice and unproblematic. Unlike other whites and blacks I have encountered. As a matter of fact, I have more hatred for my own people than for everyone else. Anyway, i just don't understand their disdain for Jews.

[@MsBadBody]

I wish I could read more of your story

[@Mistrinho]

Naah..

[@kriskris2625]

Why someone has to love Jews in the first place? Stop playing like victims

[@You717on99]

Last year when I took tour to visit dachau and the British guide told us not to discuss about WW2/Jews on the train on the way to dachau bc there could very well be confrontation. And I was at Dachau, a bunch of high school students were laughing and throwing snow balls at each other right outside of the gas chambers. This gives me an impression on how they view the holocaust nowadays. I guess more progress is still needed.

[@leisen9679]

Hm, my experience is VERY different. Not sure, if your statement is even true, or at least doctored at some level.

[@You717on99]

@@leisen9679 well I don’t judge others’ experience. People experience different things. It’s just my experience that I am sharing and I don’t go declining or disagreeing others’ experiences.

[@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq]

@@leisen9679she porbably did see some teens being inappropriate so what

[@michaelwilliamson4759]

Probably because the British guide doesn’t want the fact to be known that it was the British and other allied forces bombing, strafing, and deliberately firing on any civilian or military vehicle. Including trains carrying injured/sick refugees away from the Soviet Union who would kill them outright.

[@37BopCity]

I do not think kids playing snowballs can be seriously criticized for not understanding the enormous, unbelievable story of something like the Holocaust. They need to be educated, but such monstrous horrors are beyond their comprehension.

[@scottstambaugh8473]

This is a terrific video. This is the sort of thing that should be on the History Channel.

[@TeresaE116]

Thank you for your pinned comment @HenryStewart! I am so appalled by the videos of The Holocaust and the testimonies of Survivors now being filled with hateful rhetoric and the Holocaust being denied 😢

[@taliabraver]

The German people should help the Jewish people forever!!!!

[@hmminteresting22]

Most citizens knew. My lovely father watched schoolmates and their families being rounded up at night in his seemingly buccolic village. In another place locals swore they knew nothing of the Death Marches out of concentration camps. The inmates wore wooden clogs and the sound of them on cobbled streets was loud. The locals closed their shutters and doors and feigned ignorance. I relate this as a German.

[@hmminteresting22]

@@UCLAfilm01 and your point?

[@michaelwilliamson4759]

Gotta love the Orwellian education the Allied powers brainwashed you and the Germans with.

[@taliabraver]

Shame on you and your family!!!!!!!!!

[@michaelwilliamson4759]

I used to be a denier of this whole thing. I used to believe that Germans truly didn’t know. But since you told us about the wooden clogs and walking with them on cobbled streets… my mind is changed!

[@MsBadBody]

Why wooden clogs? They sound uncomfy

[@shaggybreeks]

It is true that the 1978 TV series brought the word "Holocaust" into the common vocabulary, we did know what happened. It's strange to think back and try to recall what we called "it", but we definitely knew. The earliest mention of it that I can remember as a kid, even before Eichmann, was "the gas chambers". But I did not realize what they were like, thinking they were executing political prisoners, but not entire masses of people.

[@Atherosdel]

I knew what it was when I visited a concentration camp in 1967.

[@shaunahayden3917]

Gasing political prisoners is still inhumane...

[@GatoSinPelo12]

Thank you for your blunt and clear narration. It is gold.

[@Sparkle-q5s]

I cannot believe people just wanted to "sweep it under the door". Those are LIVES. MILLIONS OF LIVES. Can you imagine the artists, teachers, musicians, preachers, the person to cure cancer, the person to create world peace, a famous composer, these answers will never be answered. WHY? HATE. It's absolutely, beyond, heartbreaking

[@taliabraver]

What the Germans did to the Jewish people is beyond words.Germany should guard Israel!.They are the ones who started her!!!!!

[@kathysharpe7339]

I can believe it

[@lauracorbeth2888]

Thank you for this. I am Jewish. I often wonder how Germans accepted such murder.

[@danatoews1064]

Anti semitism was entrenched for centuries. The propaganda was was slow and systematic beginning about 1932 in earnest. Taught in schools and normalized in mainstream society by the time 1938 came most Germans were convinced the Jews were the reason for all ills that plagued the German people. Keep in mind that financial rewards for Germans who spoke out against thier former Jewish friends and neighbours was a driving force to what happened to the Jewish population in Europe and in particular Germany. Hitlers architect Albert Speer spoke in a book he wrote after spending 20'years in prison. When asked about the Nuremberg Trials that the wrong questions were asked of German defendants. Instead of asking 'what they knew' they should have been asked'what could you have known if you wanted to know'. Speer admits there was disturbing rumours about things happening to the Jews but he turned a blind eye because he did not want to know if it was true.

[@MsBadBody]

I don't get it. You guys are so unproblematic.

[@sanders7789]

We should all, especially in these times of anti-semitism, live by the motto ‘NEVER AGAIN’. And, teach our children that all decent-minded people mean it with all their hearts 🙏🇮🇱❤️🇦🇺🙏🇮🇱❤️🇦🇺🙏🇮🇱❤️

[@sanders7789]

‘Almost half of Germans were against the Nuremberg trials. They thought it made them look bad.’ That’s got to be the understatement of the century, I think

[@MrBlack-wt5er]

How do you do it??????

[@sanders7789]

It always brings tears to my eyes thinking of Jews being transported in cattle trains to the camps, thinking they would be safe. Then, seeing all the suitcases, even those of children, piled high on the platforms ready for German soldiers to pilfer anything of value. And the gross lies from guards about having ‘showers’, knowing full well they wouldn’t come out alive. So many Germans knew and did nothing

[@Alexa2z]

Thanks for covering this topic- your channel is a hidden gem on KZbin. Thank you for creating these videos.

[@lorrifrench4460]

I agree. I also appreciate him sharing this informative topic.

[@catherinelee3298]

It is amazing what one human can do to another😢

[@taliabraver]

Germany should be a black hole for what they did!!!Shame on them FOREVER!!!It will never go away!!!Their childrens children will feel this!Thank your ancestors!!EVIL!!!!

[@clydekimsey7503]

True, but way too many followed him😢

[@khayasontsele8984]

I fail to see or understand how the systematic murder of innocent people and fellow countrymen is even debatable, under any circumstances. It has never been acceptable or justifiable, and never ever will be. Period! Those of us who are parents to young children, be very careful what you indoctrinate into your children’s psyche around the dinner table. Otherwise a tragic event like this will happen again in the future.

[@Chris-es3wf]

This sort of thing (ethnic genocide) is actually the norm in war throughout history. It's really just a rarity in western warfare.

[@Jaa__17]

What you mean with fellow countrymen ? Lots of Jews were migrants.

[@skinhead5]

The khazars are not innocent.

[@bigsarge2085]

Lest we forget.

[@tekay44]

it's a good slogan, but we have already forgotten. have you seen the signs being displayed?

[@dianestafford6968]

My Maternal Grandmother was a Polish Christian Holocaust Survivor and the only member of her family to survive. There are and were many victims of the Holocaust. I respectfully say they to deserve to be remembered.

[@amyrivers4093]

Thank you for your sensitive approach to the psychology behind the people involved in either side of the war. If we condemn the average German person these days, we are racists ourselves. I'm from New Zealand, so in many ways on the outside of the war. I have listened to many survivors stories and I felt disgusted towards the Germans who did wrong during the war but not German citizens now. It's very easy to place blame on Germans now, but they are not guilty of what their ancestors did. I was surprised by how many Germans still hated Jews after the war. That highlights to myself that it's basically impossible to imagine exactly what it looked like from all points of views because it was just so horrific that back then It was hard to think that someone could be so cruel to another human being. Now that we have the evidence in many forms we know with no doubt what went on and yet there are people that call it fake. Those are the people we need to keep an eye on. I'm not of Jewish decent but I am a fellow human being so I show my respect by continuing to watch any youtube video about thee Holocaust whenever I can. It is the least I can do for they all had to live through it again when recording what happened to them. I just wish we could be a world wide family no matter our race. It doesn't take much to be nice to everyone and still the world is full of hate.

[@Iceageonmars]

Lots of people were aware from very early on but once Hitler took total control, it became extremely dangerous to speak out. Any negative comments could endanger your own life. If your children weren’t in the Nazi youth movements, that told everything about your views as a parent. It’s rather like today’s transgender issues only worse. It’s hard to go agains a movement once it gathers momentum. Take note of lessons from history.

[@BeatlesFanSonia]

We are headed that way really fast!

[@nigellee9824]

Nonsense

[@brucewessel7753]

What a crazy and unbelievable time in our history. Not just the jewish community, but anyone who disagreed or didn't fit in . How this happened , there will never be a good answer.

[@tekay44]

wtf, look out your window, it is happening again.

[@TheLocalLt]

Why did you remove your video about the Germans coming to terms with defeat in WWII? I had it saved and was going to watch it, will it be back up soon?

[@sassyg3316]

The video I just watched is about Germans coming to terms with defeat.

[@TheLocalLt]

@@sassyg3316 this is about Germany coming to terms with the Holocaust. He had just put another video up about Germany coming to terms with defeat in the war

[@hansmarheim7620]

I am Norwegian. Around 60 years old now. With parents growing up in nazi occupied Norway. I will never forget, neither forgive. On the other hand i don't blame the germans of today for the horrific crimes of their ancestors.

[@amyrivers4093]

You hit the right point. The sins of Germans ancestors is not the crime of German citizens today. I think that a lot of people struggle to differentiate the two. I am glad to hear that your parents made it through the war to keep the family name going.

[@hansmarheim7620]

@@amyrivers4093 Thank's for your comment. We are Nato allies today. And that is good. Because we can't trust the USA if the orange guy is elected president later this year.

[@jeanlauridsen8596]

@@amyrivers4093 Unfortunately , a lot of germans in northeast germany (former DDR) do not believe in Holocaust even today.

[@John.N-y8f]

@@amyrivers4093 Which world are you living in?I live in Germany. Many young germans today support nazism. AFD is full of them. Germany has a real threat from them.

[@John.N-y8f]

@@amyrivers4093 Which world are you living in?

[@patrickle2500]

Now we need a video explaining why / how Japan didn’t experience this. It’s not uncommon for the newest Japanese generation to not even know of Pearl Harbor let alone the horrors their recent ancestors committed. Cultures and times were different. No excuses. We must learn our history for the hopes that it doesn’t happen again.

[@pippa212]

Japanese always need to save face.

[@SplashJohn]

@@pippa212 Yep, the difference between Germany and Japan is that Japan was (and is) an honor/shame culture, in which saving face is everything. If facts need to be modified into "facts" in order to save face, so be it.

[@Votmeyer]

Man. Pretty discouraging to think about how easily people are willing to deny the holocaust given how long it took for it to be acknowledged. It’s good to not let anyone forget. Glad you’re showing this. Keep up the good work.

[@Harbringe]

It makes sense there would be such grudging acceptance of such a thing. Cant imagine how difficult it would have been , especially for children born after these events. That the acceptance of it began to turn with grandchildren also makes sense. Scars like that are going to take a long time even to begin to heal.

[@bjorntorlarsson]

East Germany was not under Russian, but under Soviet occupation. And it wasn't the Russians but the Belarusians and Ukrainians who were the peoples of the Soviet Union who suffered most by the Germans most during WW2. Since those were the territories occupied by them. If you look at a 1943 map.

[@tflking4916]

Soviet Union is a Russian creation.

[@moarschtuff9233]

Yes. People use “Russian” and “Soviet” interchangeably when they aren’t the same.

[@sabinegroe2006]

Excat😊

[@MsBadBody]

​@@moarschtuff9233I thought they were

[@hansmarheim7620]

Great historical and factual video. Thank's a lot for uploading !

[@Lemme1892]

I absolutely love your videos. Keep up the good work 👏

[@blackice112]

Oh how history repeats itself in the most unfortunate way

[@rjglennon2219]

I feel extremely sad for what happened to the Jewish people of Europe and Russia at this time.

[@dmitrikulkevicius9161]

Russia did not exist back then.

[@dukejohn2898]

And the disabled and the gypsys and the anti socials and the homosexuals and the nacht und nebel prisoners and the forced labors and the resistance fighters.And many more.

[@Cece-dad17]

@@dukejohn2898and black people.

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

@@dukejohn2898 I’ve been listening to this KZbin channel it’s called WW2 tales. These German soldiers are third Reich and not SS Nazi but they crack me up because their journals and diaries they kept when they were POWs in America and they’re so humorous and these young men are anywhere between 19 and 26 and they’re so silly with one another and in the diary they will talk about how they argue with their friends when they were in the POW camps waiting to get on to American ships sometimes for two or three months and they had to stay in the fenced in areas without baths, but when they were surrendering to the USA and Britain, they were always ask him in the last time you ate. When was the last time he drank? Before the concentration camps were discovered those who surrendered from June through December and early January were always given something to drink, but sometimes had to wait on supplies so the Americans would make sure they had crackers and stuff like that to nibble on like crackers and cheese or some thing and when the food finally got delivered, these guys were so funny because they were just so consumed by food because they had actually suffered and gone hungry themselves. The last year and a half or so of the war, and sometimes two years for some soldiers in the German military they always talked about how they hadn’t eaten in days and how they always had to go to the bathroom and they had a domino problems because of their nerves and not being able to eat normally. What’s amazing is that the German boys because they were anywhere between 17 to 26. Remind me so much of even the American young men and how they talked and how they behaved and how they would argue with each other. When these young men finally got to come aboard the ships, they weren’t quite sure whether they were going to Britain or America as POWs . The American ship was taking some British soldiers and sailors back home, because some of them had been injured & most of them if it affected their hands or one of their legs, they couldn’t serve any more active duty so they would be sent back home. The Germans were on the ship and the boys were saying. “ Oh good grief please God let us go to America to be prisoners.! I don’t mind working my butt off but my goodness I want to be able to eat an American food is so good “😂 they were so obsessed with food because even they had suffered and gone without food for a year or two and really closer to two years because some of them had been on the eastern front and the further east they would have not be getting any supplies because it does German soldiers further west in the Ukraine region or the Baltics would be taking the majority of the food as of lies, and the ones you took the most were always the SS. The third right German soldiers did not like the SS at all through the journal that I listened to & the majority of them believed the SS to be asses. They said they were cocky, arrogant, and just completely mean, and on top of that they weren’t pleased with the fact that the SS and Nazi soldiers were paid more than the third Reich soldiers who were not Nazis and sadly they didn’t know everything did the SS we’re doing that they didn’t have to do like guarding the concentration camps because so many of the soldiers for dumbfounded about it. when they were on the ships coming to America and continuing to be obsessed with food because they were able to eat big plate of food and then get seconds on the ships & then dessert- which is probably what they needed because I’m sure they were skinny also because in film coverage I look at a lot of soldiers whether they were American British Canadian Japanese or Germans and they just looked so thin by the end of the war and even if they ate, they burned off everything. They just tickled me for years about their obsession with food and would crack me up, listening to these journals and different ones have different attitudes about fighting the Americans in British versus in the Soviets, and they always referred to the red army is Ivan like Ivan the Terrible, and just constantly cracked me up with the things they’d say. The young men who were German that wrote the journals I will send it to did have hearts, because a couple snipers witnessed the atrocities of how the Soviet troops treated people, and how they even slaughtered their own Soviet POWs, who surrendered to Germans and the German troops were mortified, hiding in the bush. Observing what was going on because that was not something the Germans would’ve ever done to one another, but Stalin ordered the troops to be killed for being cowards, and he didn’t even spare his own son. Yet, as the Soviet military slaughtered and raped their way across Eastern Europe into the Baltics, and then back into Germany they were raping women & young girls, the whole way across Europe, and it got worse in Germany and they raped girls as young as 12 years old! The German soldiers knew about that, and they witnessed some of it when they were trying to get away from the Soviets to go west, and some of them barely got away from the Russians, and they were in panzer units with infantry and civilians fallowing behind. When I listened to these, I couldn’t believe Americans and British allied with the Soviet union at all, but the American people didn’t want to see the Soviet citizens die, because they would’ve starved since the German military destroyed 75% of their field crops by September or October 1941 and a lot of their livestock serve the Soviets without windless from America would not have been able to survive for the most part except may be through the end of 1941 in 1942 but by the beginning of 1943 they would’ve been starved. If people were hungry, they wouldn’t have been able to work and they would’ve gotten sick so on the eastern front the Russians would’ve lost 5 to 10,000,000 soldiers and the Germans would’ve still lost three million but at least the entire Soviet population wouldn’t be killed because of atrocities from war. Plus the Russians act like they won World War II in Europe all by themselves and that’s not true at all. They only thought a war in Europe, but the United States fought the war in the Pacific, and in Europe, and the British fought in the Pacific as much as they could, but they were limited with people, so the Americans told the British to stick to Europe front, and since the Americans were able to make an manufacture so much because they started that operation warp speed in January 19 40 and manufactured everything into the sun and I could build a ship in a month, so the Americans told the British that the United States, Navy Marines would take care of the Pacific theater, while the rest of the navy army and army air corps would take care of Europe, and take care of that problem, and get it finished and wrapped up faster, but nothing pleased Stalin at all. Because of what does Soviet union did to the Warsaw Pact countries by not withdrawing and treating the east German people why they did by starving them, then Americans never forget the war debt from the Soviet union. They for gave a large portion of the war debt that Great Britain owed, but not anything from the Soviet union because of their cruelty and the most amazing thing happened sometime around wait 1945, early 1946, because the Soviet seven treating the German so bad and he’s Germany and that’s when they started the Berlin airlift.. wow! Despite the war, there was no bitterness, but the allies just wanted to help Germany rebuild and grow and not be so poor, like they were after world war one because they did not want them to fall desperate, and susceptible to falling under the spell of another charming dictator again. The Berlin air drop was the most amazing thing in the weather Americans and British set it up as that big bombers would fly out off of the strip, every five minutes with thousands and thousands of pounds of food, coat blankets, and baby diapers and anything these people would need like cleaning, help them, beauty, supplies, soap, and shampoo, and razors etc. and they did this every five minutes and just continue to do that for the longest time. They would make a big circle and then come back and land on another strip, and fill the bomber up with fuel when needed and more food and other necessities and make a big loop and go back and drop some more and at Easter time, there was the Easter drop, and this bomber flew and dropped nothing but a bunch of candy all over Germany and of course the kids loved it and it became something this man continue to do for dozens of years after the war.

[@mistermax3034]

Any thoughts on Gaza?

[@Jaa__17]

New sub your videos are top notch! First one I watched. Glad you take the comments serious too.

[@thomasnewton8997]

The Japanese mostly got away with the atrosaitys

[@barbarastatham100]

The best documentary I have ever watched on this subject…very accurate account of how Germans view The Holocaust .

[@melodymacken9788]

Brilliant conversation. May we never ever forget.

[@sjenner76]

Thank you for this video. It covers a much neglected but very important topic.

[@jannowak711]

Germany now acknowledges its responsibility for the holocaust. But still denies equal treatment to Poles, Czeks, Slovaks etc etc Eastern Europeans still wait for any kind of commemoration or monument. So no Germany is not done with its history. It's not even close

[@curiouslyme524]

I agree with you.

[@tekay44]

they don't accept a damn thing.

[@alicemilne1444]

Really? How about the monuments that are dedicated to the victims of the Nazi regime. They include the Slavs as well. Maybe you just don't know about them.

[@dantedante839]

Poles started the ethnic cleansing of the German parts of poland back then. One of the many reasons Hitler hated Poland was because of that. The war in itself is everybody's responsibility. Poland also committed a hugr amount of aberrations agains humanity. But isn't this video about the Holocaust? I'm not a German myself but this "victim position" coming from kodern day Poland is a bit too much.

[@jannowak711]

@@dantedante839 hello her sturbanfurer. News Flash you lost ;)

[@voulathomacos-lagonas8445]

They NEVER came to terms with it . ....they NEVER had the real QUESTION asked. WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU DO DURING THE WAR???? Many lived NEXT DOOR to the camps .. they saw the trains, they SMELT the BURNING OF BODIES.....and so much more ... So....WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU DO DURING THE WAR ????

[@sabinegroe2006]

Thank you for the video! Born in the 60’ties , my heart goes out to all the victims.

[@mitchellsmith4690]

Was stationed in Germany in the 80s....in Bayrueth, a Nazi stronghold on the 30s and 40s. The locals didnt talk about the holocaust, and the local reserves sang "forbiden" songs in private. Met an SS veteran there. Heard the funniest Hitler joke ever there.

[@jeroenboth167]

That must have been interesting to know what they talked about back in the 80s 🤔 Am I allowed to ask what the joke was?

[@mitchellsmith4690]

@@jeroenboth167 Q: Why did Hitler shoot himself? A: Couldn't pay his gas bill.

[@rename1010]

spill the joke or it did not happen

[@Tax_Collector01]

Yeah, please tell us the joke 🙏

[@mitchellsmith4690]

Guys, I think the joke would get me banned...

[@veramae4098]

Japan is still in denial.

[@maryt2196]

It wasn't a liberation, it was a defeat...Germany fought tooth and nail to survive and carry on...to say they were liberated implies the population had no involvement in what happened

[@okay-zb5zm]

it was a liberation of the jews, polish, and from the nazification of the country. They fought tooth and nail to eradicate the jews, even when they realised they were sure to lose in 1944, they still focused on killing as many jews as possible instead of shifting their resources and focus more towards their soldiers. To say it was simply a defeat is an insult to those who were held captive, were in hiding, and were murdered for existing.

[@sjwoz]

Excellent point, the narrator repeats saying 'Germans' and 'Nazis' as if two entities existed-there were not. Germany through out the 1930's had an open immigration system for its citizens, few chose to leave.......if you review the polls in that light, the early post war mindset are not surprising at all.

[@sanders7789]

Only the camps and the unfortunate occupants were liberated. It was only right that Germans suffered by losing the war. Even today, many people regard Germany as a blight on the world because of its inhumanity to man during the Holocaust.

[@Chris-es3wf]

​@sjwoz Just stop. A people and their government are not the same. Remember, Nazis never got a majority of the vote. Frankly, the Nazis were pretty much kitty-cats compared to the genocidal history of most countries and we don't demonize them the same way.

[@chrissand6067]

Claude Lanzmann's film "Shoah" came out in the 1970's. It's a documentary with candid footage of those involved both as survivors of the Holocaust, as well as townspeople living near the death camps. It lays the groundwork for the new film "The Zone of Interest" in a way that only a documentary can.

[@pippa212]

Incredible statistics from polling the population. I had no idea how long it took for Germany to take responsibility for the Holocaust. That it’s now moving back to the right terrifies me.

[@dantedante839]

Since nazism is a far left ideology they should keep their country on the right side of the political spectrum.

[@margyeoman3564]

I can't remember when it changed, in the 1960/1970's perhaps, but the Germans were never included in Remembrance Day ceremonies. They finally asked to be included as they had war dead too.

[@Jaa__17]

@@dantedante839no they not. You are brainwashed. The Nazi political party views. Are more right wing than left. The Nazi party was against migrants. People like you just say anything without thinking clearly. Probably cause you can’t face the fact right wing ideology aligns with the Nazi party

[@fjordking]

History is now repeating itself again

[@redwingfan9393]

Where?

[@AK-jt5bm]

Lol

[@babineaux.]

@@redwingfan9393 i think he/she refers to then end of the video about the German right wing party AfD.

[@redwingfan9393]

@@babineaux. Afd isn't the second coming of National Socialism.

[@Lovecats200]

@@redwingfan9393Gaza, more than 30,000 innocent dead. This is the worst of what humanity is still capable of committing.

[@martindennehy3030]

The Austrians and Hungarians, equally nazi and anti semantic never dealt with it like the Germans had to.

[@PatNorris-uq4uv]

In some ways, I can understand to a degree that this most awful and inhuman treatment occurred in their country and will always remain throughout history, just acknowledge it, condemn it and make it so it never happens again. The same for the U.S. in slavery times which led to The Civil War. Learn from wrongs and evils and make all societies wholesome for all.

[@MakerBoyOldBoy]

Very relevant history. Not commonly described. I grew up reading about the "fundamental flaw in the German character." The many details discussed were not limited to Europe, but also affected the U.S. and Japanese war crime issues. War criminals from both former enemies were secretly hired by the former Allied winners and retired with pensions in peace. The attitudes described in Germany are precisely mirrored in Japan. There are many opinions that the Japanese have not really changed from pre-WWII attitudes. Germany has seemed to develop acceptable attitudes. A current over acceptance of Muslim refugees has led to internal criminal problems. Thank you for your oversight commentary.

[@polishgigachad7097]

The Germans have not changed. They just replaced the swastika with a rainbow/EU flag. They still want full political and economic control over Europe.

[@djquinn11]

Not commonly described you say? There are thousands of books, videos, movies, podcasts, etc. that describe Operation Paperclip as well as other programs to recruit Axis war criminals for various purposes by all the Allies.

[@casario2808]

Anyone who has spent much time in Japan these days would know that absolutely their "character" is different - in some ways markedly - than WWII days. As a society they are not of the attitude that they must take over and control the entire Western pacific etc. But for sure they do not openly talk about or accept their role in WWII, nowhere near the way Germany has. There is some revisionism, but mostly just erasing it from collective memory or commentary.

[@SamBrickell]

@@casario2808 Which is fine in my opinion.

[@MakerBoyOldBoy]

@@casario2808 Thank you for your reply to my observation. Your note that the Japanese have not addressed any of the historic issues leading up to the 1945 Occupation confirms my comments on Japanese national attitudes which does not deny significant individual differences. Territorial Imperial ambitions are absent but the xenophobic racism is culturally indemic. Japanese international diplomats questioned about persistent racism replied that even if they wished to change their entire culture it would take over a century. Due to the cultural dysfunctions Japan's demographics are failing and many younger citizens are planning on emigrating to Japanese world enclaves flourishing due to opening up to other peoples' cultures. A few Japanese who welcome international contact are quite successful. The KZbin Kimono Mom and her small family are internationally beloved. The mother with an impressive history and current achievements has been criticized by her countrymen as "the shame of Japan." In Japan the over riding mindset is in their directive that the 'nail which sticks up gets hammered down." I am not a Japanese hater. For over 67 years I have studied their language, culture, history and am a samurai movie nerd and collect other humorous and dramatic books and movies. I would recommend movies Sumo Do Sumo Don't, Swing Girls, Tampopo, Let's Dansu (Dance), Kuro Obi (Black Belt), Rickshaw Man, Uchiten Hotel, and countless others. I have had many close Nihonjin (Japanese) friends. One late close Japanese rocker still listed on the Internet became a guitar maker who specialized in enlaying the Japanese cultural icon Spidey into his guitars. I would send him boxes of Spiderman comic books and we would exchange other gifts. Among other gifts I would send him Mexican spices and finishing supplies. He would send snacks and tools not available stateside and confront Japanese museum experts to further my researches into their history. A grand fellow indeed. I still miss his friendship. Each culture has its prides and uglies. To know both is recommended. A side note. The latest Spanish Zorro TV series is excellent.

[@Val-du7wb]

A really interesting, documentary. Thank you.

[@RobertHastings-cq7cj]

How one man brainwash so many

[@debbiestyer453]

This was wonderful...thank you for your research. Never forget.

[@christophermorgan3261]

Lived in beautiful Leipzig for 3 years, it had been part of the Communist East during the war but had been totally liberalized since. Never saw a beer can or even a cigarette butt in the streets. Fantastic cuisine, goods and services cheap, beautiful architecture dating back to the medieval period, castles and cathedrals all over, I highly recommend it!

[@_tardigrade]

This video made me subscribe to your channel. Great work!

[@WorldArchivist]

KZbin shadowban the last one?

[@Packless1]

17:55 ...wasn't broadcasted in Bavaria too...!

[@Alan-lv9rw]

Thank God my great-great-grandfather left Germany about 1860 and arrived in New York City.

[@gustavogoncalves3083]

Good video, I hope people also realize that Germany is not only about Hitler and Holocaust. They are a very old country, full of history. Regards from Brazil 🇧🇷

[@isaaclartey2680]

If the trials were unfair, maybe they shouldn't have committed such atrocities in the first place.🤷🏽‍♂️

[@mananmody9355]

1945 was certainly a defeat of Germany. Thats because German citizens of the time werent of the opinion that they were being held by a hostile regime. They clearly supported every single act of the Nazi regime and whosoever was opposing the regime was only doing so because they thought Nazis werent fighting the war effectively. Lets talk about Von Stauffenberg for example. He wanted to overthrow the Nazis and take over the govt so that he could sign armistice in the west. Why? So that Germans can fight more effectively against Soviet Union. At best, he was indifferent towards holocaust. Out of most of the senior generals and field marshals, afaik, only Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel and Generaloberst Johannes Blaskowitz are known to ever oppose war crimes of any kind. I am of the view that most of those Germans in early post war era who hated Nazis hated them only for losing the war and not for war crimes.

[@cristianfcao]

This was extremely interesting and informative. I never gave it too much thought, but I always assumed that the VAST majority of Germans completely rejected the Nazis soon after the war had ended.

[@37BopCity]

From the Holocaust to Hamburg ---- both my parents lived through WW2 and saw terrible things. My mother was in England living through the Blitz and all the rest of it, while my father spent four years in a Nazi POW camp in Germany from 1941-45. What has always amazed me is that just over 15 years later --- after all the incredible, horrific destruction of Germany and the Holocaust and the loss of millions of lives ---- the Beatles were playing in Hamburg. I was a young kid like millions of other baby boomers, and Beatlemania and rock and roll had taken over.

[@semsemeini7905]

When my mother who fled Austria in 1937 just before the Anschluss of March 12th, 1938 returned to Vienna in 1948, all she heard from them as well as from Germans, was how they suffered during the war. In order to get her apartment building in Vienna returned, which had been stolen in 1939, my grandmother had to pay the Aryan who bought it from the German Government, compensation.

[@MsBadBody]

Damn

[@step4024]

You put that together really well. You sound like a young man and it is wonderful that people of your age group are interested and putting together such excellent you tube presentations of the past. I'm British, like you sound and I think and will always believe in close observance and a military presence in Germany whether they like it of not. Thank the Lord God, we had Winston, for all his faults, he was spot on about Hitler and he was there for us when we needed him.

[@kapuzinergruft]

More conceit and British pride... and you ll become a deity!

[@MsAlien911]

Nearly 100 million died in world war 2. All nations lost people. Russia the most.

[@RMarkMan]

What are the sources for the statistics you provide regarding German attitudes and beliefs in the post-war period?

[@Knh55-u5l]

Ave got that mini series, brilliant protrayed by the actors, even in 1930,s most army high didnt want another war , over 50 assassination attempts on hitlers life , even in 44 the bomb plot tried to kill hitler arrest the higher nazis n stop the genocide n save there country from being destroyed, hats off to stauffenberg n others who tried to save germany

[@JamesHodgson-v2r]

Never forget, never again

[@MooMoo-fw3kh]

Last December we went to Ravesbruck because I wanted to pay tribute to the women of that camp and the Germans were very much not happy about that .they gave us the wrong directions for the wrong train until we finally met up with someone who directed us correctly .the bus driver did not even want to take us to the entrance. the Germans have much trauma and will have for many centuries to come and it will be worse if they don't begin to heal and to admit the truth and to ask God for forgiveness as well as to their fellow man

[@Baruch-q4n]

This video is needed to be shown on TV and Cinemas even now in late August 2024.

[@Jaa__17]

I visited sachsenhausen concentration camp with school. Even with my school friends joking and laughing. And we did became quiet when we entered the camp… you just can feel the misery in the air. When we walked past the kitchen area where the prisoners need to walk by to go to the factory to work. All psychological torture. Was crazy to be honest. If you are in Europe you NEED to visit one of the many camps.

[@ednorton47]

There's no sense beating themselves up over it. What's done is done.

[@oliveoil7642]

Denazification and guilting of the German population took place predominantly in West Germany. The Soviet controlled Germany had other priorities such as taking noble and upper class lands and redistributing it amongst the working classes. Along with setting up collectives.

[@Bailey2006a]

The film “ The Zone of Interest “ should be required watching in every High School history class …

[@nicholaschamberlain3912]

This is a fascinating body of research, as a history teacher I would very much like to know where I could find out more about the American post war polls, please can someone point me in the right direction?

[@sassyg3316]

Very easy. Do a search at your professional or academic library to find research journals.

[@alicemilne1444]

It's not that well researched at all and presents only the British and American viewpoint. I was an exchange student in Germany in the early 1970s as a teen. I attended high school there as well, and the Nazi atrocities had already been being taught in schools at least since 1971. The students had to watch documentaries about concentration camps. In any case, Willy Brandt kneeling in Warsaw happened in 1970 and everyone knew about that. The idea that it took an American TV show to "wake up the Germans" is just so wrong. The dissatisfaction had been happening since the 1950s. The American post-war polls could only have been carried out in the US occupation sector and are therefore not representative of anything more than that.

[@stefaniegreen3054]

@@alicemilne1444I’ve read the polls and although I don’t doubt them the sample sizes are not clear.

[@casario2808]

I would imagine most nazis knew about the holocaust for years, and maybe even most soldiers had "heard things", but I'm not convinced "most" German citizens were fully aware, maybe more like rumours or things they didnt want to know about, but not completely aware of exactly what was going on in the camp. The SS took great aims to keep that hidden.

[@tekay44]

wake up please. they all knew. they all knew. they clammed up when karma showed up.

[@martindennehy3030]

Too right they knew, it was happening in the streets.

[@alicemilne1444]

​@@martindennehy3030 Were you there?

[@martindennehy3030]

@@alicemilne1444 you've got blood on your hands.

[@alicemilne1444]

@@martindennehy3030 Me? I don't have anyone's blood on my hands. I wasn't even born then, and I wasn't born German either. But very probably unlike you, I do know and have known people who lived in Germany through that era. Most Germans did not know the whole story. They knew or guessed that bad things were happening but did not know the full extent. If you were not there, you cannot claim that everyone knew everything.

[@SpringerA1984]

Also go into the origin of the Nuremberg Laws from American racial laws. And the Churchill/British instigated holocausts in India in the tens of millions.

[@kenyat6419]

Deny any history you’re doomed to repeat!! That’s real history not someone’s made up version.

[@glps6167]

Sorry, but this documentary editor needs to do more research. First, the title says "the Germans", but covers only the FRG (West Germany). Second, I attended high school in Witten (West Germany) in the 1970s, graduating in 1975. In history class, we dealt with the Holocaust, and on about 1972 all students of my class were shown a black & white documentary on a concentration camp. I could not eat anything for the rest of that day. This documentary does not try hard enough to differentiate between Germans who participated in the Holocaust, Germans who passively stood by, and Germans who rejected Nazi antisemitism outright. For instance, Germany's most popular entertainment show host for many years, Hans Rosenthal, as a child had been hidden and supplied with food during the Nazi years by his neighbours; after the war he stayed in Germany

[@damonmelendez856]

Did the older generation ever tell you ‘why’ they were so opposed to the Jews? I’m just curious.

[@glps6167]

Here is a problem in your documentary: "they", lack of differentiation. The members of my family were devout Catholics, thus maintained their distance to Nazism. I never heard anyone I knew expressing anti-Semitic sentiment; this was a taboo topic in the post-war years, and rightly so.

[@dianestafford6968]

My Maternal Grandmother was a Polish Christian Holocaust Survivor. She had to be a slave for a German Farmer and his wife. They also had a handful of other slaves. Herman and Katie didn't feed them the starvation diet that the Nazis said that they had to instead they feed them whatever they ate even though if they were found out it would have led them to be murdered. When my Nana would take the bre ad to be baked at the bakery in town and no one was around the Baker would slip my Nana cookies again if caught they would have been murdered. So many people don't understand that simple human kindness to other humans was punished 😢😢😢

[@semsemeini7905]

Apologist?

[@Gardeninginpearls]

I love learning, thank you this was very well done. Such a horrible devastating time.

[@oh_rhythm]

holocaust memorial day in Israel in exactly 1 month from now. the Jews were always the first to be persecuted when something went array wherever whenever. they were scapegoats because they were different. they were the strangers who "shouldn't be there in the first place" and "are only loyal to themselves". all minorities suffer from discrimination. it does bring to light the question of ethnic diversity and how to approach that issue. thing is both in the past and in the present the in the Jewish realm there isn't a unified agreement on how to go on about that identity issue of judaism. the seculars claim it's a only a traditional thing(to commemorate the ancestors), the orthodox say it's all about actual belief in the jewish god and following all the required rules of a dogma, and some position themselves somewhere in the middle. I know that these things exist in any religion in any ethnic group and I'm hoping for a more advanced world which puts aside superstitious beliefs and moves towards empirical science oriented perception(as the fathers and mothers of the enlightenment had wished it to be).

[@martindennehy3030]

Here we go, the poor Jews again 🙄, always the victims, they're the cause of all their own problems and more.

[@davehoward22]

Ilived near bergan,and belson was in the woods surrounding the village and they mustve known it was there,even smelt it

[@ritamedina-molina8550]

As always utube give you all the info..thank you

[@DMR_MAK]

Collective guilt is a strange concept outside of its use as propaganda, then it makes perfect sense. I mean, why aren’t we convicting family members of murderers, and shaming them? Ahh but if your ancestor from 200 years ago did something, that is valid? Huh?

[@mrfester42]

What a great piece. So much important information packed into a short length. The most important point in this story is that the German public knew exactly what was going on. I don't know many German Americans but of the ones I do know, like my brothers in-laws, I have found them all to have a certain underlying self righteous arrogance. They all seem to have an air of self righteousness that really bothers me. They are not in your face about it but it is still quite obvious how in many roundabout ways they let you know that they think they are better than anyone else. I come from an ethnic family so this really bothers me. They are not warm people and although they make the effort to at least appear gracious and accepting their sense of feeling superior to everyone else comes out in many subtle ways.

[@voyager2135]

Why are Slavic victims ignored in this video? 3:33 Its says "Jew and Poles" but he doesn't even state that, let alone other slavic populations targeted by the reich. Might seem like a tiny detail but I believe it should be recognized.

[@HAL-xy3om]

Good show...

[@alanmckay7454]

I always find it so strange that right wing historian's and politicians take an apologetic approach to an authoritarian ethno-socialist governments actions. I think they may be confused.

[@edwinsparda7622]

East Germany = Ostpreußen, Westpreußen, Pommern, Silesia, Posen, and parts of Brandenburg. My ancestors came to the americas from Königsberg and Memelland regions. Yes war is awful. States come and go. But the holocaust is one of the most brutal things that have been done in the history of humanity (along with Stalin and Mao Zedong). Now there are people who are calling for the elimination of Israel.

[@fskalitube]

Noch immer schreibt der Sieger die Geschichte. Das muss aber nicht unbedingt die Wahrheit sein. Wenn Sie wissen, was ich meine

[@johnnyraven4217]

Wow - the fact that so many people could be brainwashed into that kind of thinking and falling for a madman. Good thing we don’t have that today. 😉

[@Alexandra-cv1vf]

We do, Islam.

[@KCohere33]

People are very hardheaded. It can take a lot to get through to them. But you can never stop trying.

[@InnocentPotato-pd7wi]

German - Swiss American here! My Great-Uncle died on a beach on February 19th, 1944. He was a Staff Sgt. in the US Army. Needless to say I have been very alarmed at the rise of the REICH WING REPUBLICAN party!

[@bernicemellstrom5693]

You must be blind if you can't see this very corrupt marxist democrat administration and the very corrupt propaganda Pravda mainstream media. That is what you should be alarmed about. Do your research and stop believing the mainstream media and deep state politician lies. They are trying to do away with our rights. Get smart please! Think for yourself.

[@michaeldavidson1909]

Informative. Thanks.

[@matthewmedeiros5832]

Why was not Russia blamed for there own atrocities

[@oliveoil7642]

The anti Jewish attitudes were widespread throughout Europe at this time not just in Germany. Even Churchill made anti semitic statements.

[@sabinegroe2006]

Because the eugenic movement was en vogue

[@margyeoman3564]

Not just Germany. East of Germany, nearly EVERY country was historically anti-Semitic. metic. The Poles, the Romanians, the Russians, and so on. This was a so for centuries.

[@sabinegroe2006]

@@margyeoman3564 my family never was and I have a Jewish family very close to me

[@semsemeini7905]

Yes but they did not plan the murder of every Jew on the planet like Nazi Germany did. Later countries like Romania, Hungary, France collaborated. But it was planned by Germany.

[@Jaa__17]

@@margyeoman3564nah it was not I live in Europe. My country always had big Jewish community. Even parts of Amsterdam where full Jewish neighborhoods. Even before the war.

[@mistermax3034]

They sure as heck seem to have come to terms with the Holocaust in Ghaza!

[@Alexandra-cv1vf]

So you believe the media parroting Hamas propaganda, hoping you'll get fooled and turn against the only moral country in the middle east.

[@fullthrottleinthemojave1138]

That is an unbelievably ignorant and evil comment.

[@Jaa__17]

@@fullthrottleinthemojave1138it’s not. Palestinians get named Hamas. So it doesn’t sound like ethnic cleansing. There are a lot Palestinian family’s that got nothing to do with the war between Hamas and Israel.

[@AG-lz2gg]

No such thing

[@mistermax3034]

@@AG-lz2gg Many say the same about the WW2 holocaust. Congrats...

[@jeanbrown8295]

The German population most certainly did know what was happening,my German friend who was 13 in 1945,told me she knew,an so did her family.

[@hmpeter]

Large city inhabitants probably had a least an idea that something bad was going on, even though they might not have known specifics. For the country folks, I am not so sure. Most will never have seen a Jew or one of the other victim groups in their entire life. With the conflicts going on right now in this modern information world, it is incredible difficult to get reliable information still. Back then, it was a couple orders of magnitude more difficult. But I consider the question by now as almost meaningless. We see today again, very few people risk their well-beeing to speak out against wrongdoings of their own people. That includes basically all current day inhabitants of the former „good powers“ of WWII.

[@mueezadam8438]

Germany had a very lively public sphere up until the collapse of the republic. It’s a testament to the efficacy of the censorship ministry headed by Joseph Goebbels that even news of the imminent invasion came to a surprise for citizens until the allies were right at their borders

[@kylemason883]

Victors justice…people visiting US capitol on 1/6/21 know all about that. Their guilt lies in trespassing or at worst breaking and entering.

[@callofdutyfreak10123]

Here before this blows up

[@oliveoil7642]

They may have “known” but not fully understood! Mass formation psychosis on full display.😫