How The God’s Knights Framed Loki For Killing Elbaf’s King

[@osialiu1030]

Yall ain't asking the real questions!! Where has Loki been shitting these last 6 years?!?

[@Skycoder13]

He's so strong he uses haki to shit it into the bedrock.

[@SeveralGhost]

That's what his followers are for

[@arjuna3221]

That’s his devil fruit power. The shit shit fruit

[@gonzalomn4047]

He's shitting at the very roots off the Adam tree, fertilizing it, therefore it grew so strong

[@emperorluffy6001]

What if he's just holding it in...

[@Vtex3567]

It also makes sense why Loki has a “special bounty” placed upon him, not because he killed the king but because this shanks brother placed this bounty on him after being unable to attain the fruit themselves

[@jalen5566]

You cooking something with this take

[@TayLeones]

i was just thinking this, not only because he ate the fruit but also because fake shanks most likely fought him in the throne room after he got caught killing harold. The throne room they just teleported into looks like a battle took place there and with no king they probably haven't needed` to fix it. To morjs point the noise of loki and fake shanks fighting is probably what attracted the villagers to the castle where they end up only seeing a dead harold and lokl. and fake shanks reporting what happened is what gets loki the special bounty.

[@GastPremium]

@@Vtex3567 the theory fails at the part of Shanks not knowing about his alleged brother who looks like him. The giants are really close to Shanks they would have told him that Loki is accusing you of killing the king. Shanks would immediately think about his evil twin and clear the air or at least talk to Loki. He would have asked him about the person who looked like him and the scar that the evil brother does not have. It would make 0 sense for Shanks to not do that smart as he is he would be easily able to clear the misunderstanding

[@czar82ro]

@@GastPremiumlet’s Say This Did Happen And Shanks, The GIANTS Are Playing Along Until They Can Clear It All Up. Leaving Loki Where He Is Because He Will Be Apart Of The War Him & Kaido Wants. But Shanks Doesn’t Want To Give The WG/CD Da Heads Up. We See Shanks Is On The Move & Said Luffy Is Ready & Hint’s Him Now Going After “The One Piece”

[@Vtex3567]

@ that brings into the question of how much would the giants listen to Loki. To me it seems like everyone sees him as the one who killed king harald and no matter what accusation he puts on someone they wouldn’t believe him for a second, especially not their close trusted friend shanks, they’re just gonna think he’s talking crazy.

[@wrigh2uk]

Bro so excited to get this out he couldn’t even wait till tuesday

[@Luffymynika11]

W theory and this will explain why Loki was disrespecting Shanks earlier, since he thought Shanks pulled this underhanded move to frame him of killing his father.

[@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od]

Imagine this actually did happen and Shank's played the giants for fools 😅

[@WARVROOM55]

Loki said he was joking. I can see a scenario where loki thought that at first. But then shanks came to the underworld and confronted Loki about Loki claiming that he’s the one who killed his father and that’s how Loki found out that shanks has a twin.

[@mylespando5192]

@WARVROOM Loki was probably being serious but as soon as it pissed Luffy off he had to retract it somehow because he still needed to make a deal with Luffy

[@WARVROOM55]

@ he didnt even have a angry look when he said it. Surely he wouldve shown some extreme emotions at the mention of his name

[@StarPlatinumZaWardu]

Morj's future sight is too op now.

[@brutalattack2]

I think what other creators fail to do is not base their theory on what type of writer Oda is and what One Piece has always been about. I say this because people as late as now were denying the existence of Shanks' twin and believing that Shanks is 'evil' or 'morally grey'. Yeah, I get it seems more interesting but OP characters are never written like that, you can literally single out each and every one of them as 'Good' or 'Evil'.

[@KahBorgi]

I love how everyone is so certain that they know exactly what's about to happen as if they're talking with Oda himself. Shanks having a brother is still just a fan theory, nothing has been revealed as of yet so yall are talking out your ass.

[@SrMissileMonkey]

I can't wait to see most of the comments be about the video posted and *NOT* be about the coming Wano vid.

[@cozyboyroy]

I agree but the Wano vid isn’t coming 😂

[@Problemsolver434]

Well, this is a surprise. I was expecting this on Tuesday. But regardless, i am very glad

[@rupertgordonii6623]

Yeah me too, I'm shocked haha

[@randomdude4504]

hes getting carried away, he assumes his theory is right(Oda hasn't even confirmed the shanks look alike is shanks' brother, he could be a clone or both him and shanks could even be a clone of Garling but morj can't help himself) and jumps to release another theory in hopes of scoring another w but he forgets this is one piece, his flooding theory was right but that was semi obvious after what happened with lulusia kingdom. If he's right good for him but watch him call Oda a fraud if his theory isn't confirmed.

[@DragonUniverse-zj8nx]

@@randomdude4504Why you so weird bro let him make theories and stop crying

[@bushidobrown9839]

@@randomdude4504Username checks out, just a random hating for no reason lol

[@odysseusdadon1234]

this theory was something fans began to speculate as soon as 1134 came out with oda hinting at loki actually being good. It really looks like it may be true

[@zero1188]

To me it obvious he was good. Luffy have good intuition, he could always tell if someone good or bad.

[@fedewyt]

you're talking like 1134 didnt come out 2 days ago

[@trimmertrimmer5584]

@@fedewyt leaks

[@RecencyBiasRadio]

@@zero1188 well to be fair, Luffy did believe all of Galley-La were good guys initially. He didn’t see CP9’s disguise at all lol

[@fedewyt]

@@trimmertrimmer5584 my point stands

[@SrMissileMonkey]

I LOVE this vid. Such narrative throughline and parallels galore. Love it, dude. Keep the kitchen hot

[@monke1599]

Important point as to King Harald definitely not being evil The Ohara Books and Saul If King Harald were truly working for the WG he would not have helped Saul save Ohara's books, nor would he have built a library to house them, nor would he encourage Saul to educate the young of the island, especially since those kids likely know the information within the Ohara books

[@thecheesyskull88]

How the Gods Knights Framed Morj for Delaying the Wano Analysis

[@XBasquiat-y3p]

Excellent theory and video. After 1134 I'm convinced Loki isn't evil. Whoever Mosa is, they think Loki is actually nice. And Luffy, who is a good judge of character, just vibing with him, convinces me that he was either framed or took the blame for Harald's death.

[@noctonistis]

I absolutely love the concept of Usopp being the only one to believe Loki. While everyone else, the Straw Hats and the giants, don't believe Loki's story, it's Usopp who recognizes that Loki is telling the truth. And despite having to turn against everyone, Usopp stands his ground and defends Loki, because your resolve to stand for what you believe in no matter who you have to stand against is the true essence of a brave warrior of the sea.

[@imdageeta]

this vid shoulda dropped on Tuesday. Thank you morj for the early drop! Merry Christmas my guy.

[@yoketah]

Right? I was super confused why it was today and not Tuesday I had to go to the comments to find out lol.

[@TheFPSKingsGaming]

Morj turning up!!!! On a Sunday. Morj turning up!!!! On a Sunday.

[@dagdamor1]

“Hurr durr durr hurr Wano, give me likes please”

[@Richardsondx]

Incredible analysis as always. Your KZbin channel is a masterclass in storytelling. I can’t wait for your storytelling series/course.

[@haithammihawk8215]

This chapter had me thinking that at Marineford... Everyone were chocked to see Shanks there when he was supposed to just have faced Kaido so how he showed up in Marineford so quickly... Which almost confirms that the Shanks that went to stop Kaido from coming to Marineford to help Whitebeard.... That wasn't Shanks it was his Brother.... It makes sense for him as a government agent to stop Kaido from helping Whitebeard... But that would also mean that Shanks knows about his brother because he wasn't shocked or curious that people were making claims about him...

[@SrMissileMonkey]

Mmmm....I wouldn't go that route. Only cause the Sun Stone and rainbow road mechanic are already present. And like it's been stated, God's Knights only really get involved with matters if it involves Celestial Dragons, which Marineford did not.

[@mylespando5192]

@Srmisslemonkey. The navy would have been annihilated if kaido would have shown up. WB’s entire fleet AND Kaido and King? That absolutely effects the CD’s if they lose their literal entire military.

[@SmlngChmp]

I agree with the theory, and to make everything make even more sense, I would add the fact that Shanks has no idea he has a brother.

[@mylespando5192]

Yeah isn’t it entirely possible shanks wouldn’t even know. If he never went to mariejois and has been a pirate outside of the WG operations since the day Roger took him in.

[@afonsoteixeira2700]

best video u haver ever made imo, thank u for this, keep it up, goat

[@dozhiz6566]

3rd theory works only if Shanks does not know about his brother, but we may assume that he knows. If we go back to the conversation between him and Whitebeard, when they speak about the fact that Whitebeard scar itches when he sees Shanks face. If the Shanks knows about the twin brother, he can simple disprove allegations of killing the king. Or is there some kind of hidden motivation for Shanks to keep Loki chained? Also, there possibility that there some kind of overseer aligned with the WG who summoned holy knights.

[@snakejazz]

W take. I absolutely think Loki is at the very least not as evil as we're being led to believe and Luffy is gonna let him free. We all know Luffys super power is judging character.

[@ericwitney5086]

finally, these are the vids i sub for. great vid

[@About9000]

always love your theories Morj

[@Slann_ted]

Great analysis video, thanks morj

[@kangev8662]

Great Video!

[@SrMissileMonkey]

Also, with 907 reverie scene. "That Pirate" that Shank's brother mentions might be Loki then if this truly is Shank's brother. It could be someone else, but after 1134, i now think it's Loki, Between the reveal and Loki's _special_ bounty.

[@KeinProblem-uv5jh]

When was it said that loki is a pirate?

[@SrMissileMonkey]

@KeinProblem-uv5jh uhhh inferred since the majority of bounty holders are Pirates and exceptions don't make the rule.

[@bushidobrown9839]

Christmas came early boys

[@TheCoolestGamer20]

This is actually a solid theory

[@ItsAceB]

lol who thought Loki was a villain? like come on now you've gotta be kidding

[@RecencyBiasRadio]

I’ve been thinking Loki is a good guy this whole time & this theory did not disappoint.

[@isaiahthompson2134]

Option B could be possible still if Oda wants to explore the fallacy of being peaceful in a deceptively violent world. In order to do that he'd have to establish the reason Elbaf/Warland had cultivated such a war heavy philosophy was as a precaution for the eventual final war w Imu & the CD's for the Dawn. Elbaf, which like you previously speculated was the site of the 1st one piece world war during the void century, is kept as a nation of strong warriors continuously honing their battle prowess because they know 1 day the World Govt's false facade will come down and they'll try to finish the great flood. Therefore Harold's turn away from the (admittedly excessive) war culture for peace was not done so out of a love & desire for true peace like Cobra or King Riku, but rather as a deceptive plot to weaken the strongest opposition to Imu & the World Govt. As a real world analog it could parallel people who build and/or favor the false peace of western liberalism which is ultimately a lie, after all might very much still makes right in both the real world and One Piece world

[@Wrestlezyv]

Nah..we got morj posting theory videos early than the wano analysis😭

[@young_raymond47]

I legitimately just came to the conclusion that Loki didn’t kill Harald today. Thinking about it more, the fact that we now have two different people who don’t think much of his threats and clearly find him quite friendly makes me question if he actually did it. I think he likes the reputation of being a bad boy, but I’m really not buuing it. He probably did disagree with his father on the direction he wanted Elbaf to go in, but didn’t actually kill him; he just capitalised on his death to push his agenda.

[@DaneDeezy]

The question now is why are they coming back right now. They had 6 years to kill a captured Loki in a place where no one would notice.

[@healthyaction]

whoa early drop? Great theory as always

[@drey7459]

It's so wild to think that we waited and memed for 25 years that we never get to see Shanks and now we are going to get not only Shanks but also Shonks. What a time to be alive.

[@deinemam7115]

Video so good that there are barely any Wano comments

[@jec15]

I was thinking of this! Also you did say you have something big for the Loki situation. Weeks ago, I brought this up on the comments section of either Denden or Kuso that Loki was framed. But before 1134, we hadn't much of a solid idea of the circumstances. But with this: you are cooking! Giants are strong! So when he happened upon the Shanks clone, they likely really fled. Loki taking the blame then, aside from paralleling Syrup, would make this arc his Higuma arc, and Luffy (would he be Loki's liberator) his Shanks. Confronting the problem with a childish sensibility, resulting in a loss. Perhaps Shiv/Shell/Slash (no idea what we're calling him) takes out Luffy's eye or something by the end of this arc, but Luffy saves Loki. If Oda provides a hint on how Loki got the "Sun God" power, like if Harald sensed his assassination and asked his sons to always bring a bunch of giant grape looking fruit (a bunch might have a higher chance of getting the power) - coincidentally Luffy's fruit is violet outside, and greenish inside.

[@SG-md9st]

Tuesdays video on a Sunday?

[@StrongIsKing]

Morj is the best one piece, KZbinr, hands-down

[@woif00]

Luffy initially got along well with Blackbeard in his first interaction, so saving he's a phenomenal intuitive judge of character is a huge overstatement. He just usually meets them when they are doing something incredibly bad/shady

[@rev3rend353]

In the marvel movie Thor Ragnorak we see that Loki actually was depressed from his father’s passing. So this would make sense as Loki most likely is mad from being set up like this. Also the greatest weapon smith on Elbaph is most likely Thor the brother of king Herald. Lastly as Loki in the marvel movies was a jotunn (frost demon) so instead of him being the “sun god” his powers may actually be frost “god” related.

[@aboredburrito5010]

I really like this theory, it’s much more consistent to previous One Piece arcs than the evil King Harold theory, the only question then would be what Shanks’ reaction to Loki’s accusations was, how aware is he of the twin situation or any conspiracy at play? What is Mosa’s role in all this? How’s all the other stuff about Louis-Arnot and warning about Elbaf connect? This is a good working theory for now, it seems very plausible that Oda takes things in this general direction but probably there’s more twists to come yet

[@Vtex3567]

Tuesday came early

[@senseihello]

It could also make sense that the giants let Loki go to challenge Shanks himself as it fits with their medieval-like honour where one could defend themselves by a sort of trial by combat.

[@kangev8662]

Interesting that sending Gods Knights can just be send right away, while the Gorosei need proximity to each other for teleportation. Something-something greater effect of ritual needs greater sacrifice. Or rather more elaborate setup, because they have greater power/imu's powers more directly

[@briancfield]

Yes!! This chapter just gave us all the right clues to piece the story of Loki together. Elbaph just got A LOT more interesting

[@quinntaylor3766]

Another parallel between shanks and his brother is that shanks warned whitebeard of Blackbeard while his brother warned the gorosei of Luffy.

[@mohadmussa770]

Theorising that Gods Knights would come to Elbaph was a major W

[@Brodie0301]

The only bad thing about Morj having great theories is that if oda goes a different route, you kinda start thinking of the missed Opportunities if morj is right.

[@Pelmeni97]

This is so on point that if option C doesn't turn out to be the truth, I would bet that Oda watches Morj's content and switches up last second.

[@TheElectrikCow]

Loki didn't just have a random fruit on him, Loki ate his father's heart. We saw with Big Mom that Big Mom was able to take Mother Caramel's Devil Fruit by eating her, an event which took place on Elbaf. We also know that Blackbeard somehow took Whitebeard's Devil Fruit while underneath the black cloak, it would have been easy enough with all of Whitebeard's wounds for Blackbeard to reach up and grab his heart and eat it. It seems more probable than Blackbeard carrying an unseen basket of fruit up his bum into the middle of a battlefield. Not to mention the Blackbeard pirates have been stealing plenty of other Devil Fruits the last 2 years, and I imagine everyone on that crew would be just okay with eating a person's heart to gain magic powers. I think it only makes sense that coming back to Elbaf where the event with Big Mom happened is where we would finally learn of this likely forbidden knowledge of how to gain another person's Devil Fruit without waiting for it to transfer to a fruit.

[@sulaimanmaher7563]

This also fits well with the narrative that luffy"s elder brother Ace was intended to eat his fruit but luffy ate it while loki"selder brother hajrudin was intended to eat the fruit but loki ate it

[@evilfriend5881]

An unexpected Morj

[@NotTheWEJ]

Loki probably ate the fruit so Pranks didn’t take it

[@mylespando5192]

Or he accidentally ate it like Luffy did with the sun god fruit. Maybe it appeared in the plate of food he was eating after Frank killed Harald and he ate it with Franks not being able to stop it.

[@portsyde3466]

This makes me wonder if Kidd's initial reason for going after Shanks was because he had similar dealings with his evil brother as well and just mistook his identity. Obviously it later became more genuine hate since Beckman took his arm, but this would make Kidd a lot more relatable of a character.

[@stefan_green]

Great vídeo Morj. U convinced me. Still waiting on that Wano Analysis tho lol

[@giovannitamba1723]

I've got a single objection to this theory. Shanks knows he has a tein brother who's a God's knight. When Whitebeard mentions the scar he got from "that guy" Shanks doesn’t bat an eye. And Whitebeard didnt have any visible scars in Oden's flashback, nor in his own flashback when he remembeeed drinking with Roger. That means it wasn't necessarily garling who scarred him during the god valley incident, but it could have been shanks2

[@SASJinno]

Morj definitely cooked with this one.

[@ThousandSunny918]

Mork on a Sunday???

[@daoletto2]

My hypothesis is thst Loki voluntarily took the blame for the murder to keep Elbaph the peaceful and advanced kingdom that we see now.

[@DwAlaska]

As someone who subscribed to some version of this theory the second we met Loki and Luffy didn't immediately say something along the lines of "i don't like you". I can't wait for this plot to drag for 50 chapters when this all could have been answered in two panels. Loki-"yeah you like that coward of a pirate" Luffy-"who tf is you to call Shanks a coward?!" Loki-"he killed my dad" Luffy-"bs" Then when the strawhats inevitably run into Shanks or one of his crew Luffy will call them out "hey why is that tall dude saying you snuck his pops?" Shanks-"damn thats my brother Stabs, lemme go talk to Loki"

[@Pingvinicecream]

that is if even Shanks knows about the brother

[@DwAlaska]

@Pingvinicecream he'd have to though right? If this theory is correct. Shanks evil brother murdered Lokis dad, Loki saw etc. Cause didn't Loki's goons say Shanks has visited? I can't imagine how Shanks would visit and Loki wouldn't bring anything up. And if the theory is incorrect then I can't imagine what would make Shanks "a coward" in Lokis mind. Maybe imprisoning him but not killing him? Or not killing him while he's incarcerated. But I can't subscribe to that way of thinking cause I Low-key think Loki isn't a bad character.

[@Pingvinicecream]

@@DwAlaska If Shanks know tho then the alibi point is moot because then the scenario in your first comment would've likely already played out but between Shanks and the other giants instead.

[@alfimate3712]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@Tobi_001]

Hey Bro Your Theories Are Genuine And It Came true In The Latest Chapter You're doing a great job It's Currently 1:42 am in India And I'm sleeping By Seeing Your Op Theories Actually It's My Daily Routine Love From India Brother ❤

[@jjchung9268]

makes sense, I'm convinced

[@benjaminmiller2384]

My biggest issue with option 3 is how would someone that strong teleport onto the island and fight King Harold and none of the giants feel him. That would be such an odd thing for all of these warriors to not feel. Everyone on egghead felt the circle as soon as they showed up

[@NeroPiroman]

how the god knights stoped morj from making the wano analysys

[@Niko_Neckokin]

Amazing video, I would also like to point out the person Loki talks to over the snail phone in 1134 is referred to as "Mosa" which apparently indicates royal heritage or noble status. This "Mosa" seems to share the mentioned "traumatic experience" with Loki, so maybe Mosa is a royal advisor and the only one who saw the truth of the day that the king was murdered?

[@ΓιωργοςΦραγκιαδακης-μ1ζ]

I mean ,thats a certified WG move at this point in the story . Who among Saul, Robin and Stuccy would even blink learning that Loki was framed by Godknights for interfiring in their political shenanigans?

[@Howtofight3434]

W theory, chances of it being true are above 50%

[@unnamedshadow1866]

I think Elbaph's Message is going to be deeper. The purpose of Elbaph is to tell us what is the limit of peace. Up until what point taking a non-aggresive stance is valid. Elbaph is going to be a reality check. We may want peace, and peace in itself may be good. But one must always be ready for war, because peace promotes jealousy on other nations. Peace is important, but not having a military to defend your traditions and also to maintain that peace appears to be what Elbaph is lacking. Harald's reigh was good, but it was too much. This nation can be conquered by the World Government. When a nation is too peaceful its also bad. Elbaph is a genius Arc from Oda. As it will teach Luffy and us readers some pretty grim lessons. That sometimes War is inevitable. And that sometimes to protect peace, you must declare war. Add the current real life events, and Elbaph Message is definitely going to resonate deeply. Peace and War are not opposites, they co-exist, and as long as people have different ideals and dreams, conflicts will spark. So we must stand ready to defend what we cherish when the time comes.

[@Adex767]

When the theory’s so hot, Tuesday can’t wait

[@beatgamer99]

I agree with the assassination and framing. Also explains why they could teleport to Elbaf now because King Harold mistakingly offered them entry into the country and allow the WG to set a foot hold in Elbaf

[@venom16839]

There's one potential hole in this theory: Why wouldn't Shanks have told the Giants that he had an evil twin brother? This information would have completely vindicated Loki's story. Even if Shanks was away at the time, he would have at least heard about what happened to Loki at some point during the six years of imprisonment. This suggests that Shanks must have willingly kept this secret from the Giants.

[@shayoko6]

and loki logically had that 2.6 billion bounty even before obtaining the devil fruit. since we assume he was caught not long after eating it. unless the bounty shows how much of a threat the fruit is.

[@shaurjyamandal3028]

This might be a story about the older brother younger brother dynamics… older brother chosen by the world, younger one chosen by destiny.

[@aleksacakic9571]

We need to make KOL watch this...he will die from happiness. Great theory and thank you for being always real!

[@MaxDavies-f3x]

morj you're cooking with this one. I hope oda is taking notes

[@doubleh3978]

How the community framed Morj for killing the Wano analysis.

[@kvngjay8623]

still the best one piece creator

[@Roz4y]

Might be the most sound morj theory vid I ever watched

[@rohanbaste-bania6227]

I think this would imply that Shanks doesn't know he has a brother/twin, because if he heard Loki saying it was shanks that did it, Shanks would have been able to connect the dots and realize his brother was the true culprit and that Loki was just confused. Or maybe, Shanks knows he has a brother but has some reason that he does not want to reveal it for. Either way one of thses would need to be true

[@pocketmonster6437]

I also thought this after the chapter. Great minds think alike

[@optcoptc9429]

Shit feels like a massive spoiler 😂

[@georgez2702]

Morj is a on theory fire right now!

[@Go_D._Usopp_1997]

It feels like your three initial possibilities don't take into account that Loki and Harald could both be good. They disagreed completely on what the future of Warland should look like, which might have led to Loki killing Harald. Although, the problem of Loki eating the fruit still exists.

[@juanmajg9981]

Did you watch the video

[@thesenorpink]

I think there is a chance Loki got the df the day that he got rejected by Lola or shortly after. I think Lola got to Thriller Bark around 5+ years ago and since the Loki thing happened before, it could kind of line up. Maybe the flower Loki is holding in the silhouette from before was a fruit and not a flower and he had it on him when the king was killed.

[@dominik8782]

Dope Theory! so good i wont watch it to the end ... dont wanna spoil myself even more.

[@mokaljordan]

A possible plot twist that Loki is paralleling Kyros and King Riku/King Cobra/Sukiyaki is King Harold, Loki could of actually killed a King Harold doppelganger(Cobra and Oden had doppelgangers too with Bon Clay and Kanjuro) that either worked for the elbaph elders / the WG and Loki seen the doppelganger do something unforgivable and the real King Harold is Mosa, the character loki is talking to as Mosa seems meek like King Harold would be, Loki killing a doppelganger King would parallel Kyros decapitating a Doffy string Clone in Dressrosa and that King Harold would come back later but not seize the throne and leave it to his kin Hajrudin like sukiyaki did with Momo

[@numberproof7228]

This theory is so good it feels like a spoiler

[@velho6298]

It feels so natural where the key is the balance between peace and strength. I think usopp will be in center piece of the giants realizing this

[@fillmoorejake-5610]

Oda’s about to change the course of the whole series because of you now.

[@MadDSon300]

I screamed when u said both brothers had fruit stolen

[@Nubin2000]

Saint Garling Figarland hairstyle looks like a star from the front and looks like a moon from the side as well for more parallelism. Luffy represents the Sun God of the One Piece World and Imu respectively represent the moon as the Sea Devil of the One Piece world! Shanks twin brother could possibly be Ginny’s husband and Bonney’s biological father. He would still be old enough twelve years ago to SA Ginny and have her conceive Bonney. Maybe the female Holy God Knight next to him is also a Ginny clone similar to Lilith?

[@zero1188]

Or loki father wanted loki to klll him and take the fruit to save elbaf. Or after shanks kllled the father, his father told him to eat the fruit

[@CognitiveDissonance05]

Also, Harold wanting good relations with the rest of the world tracks because of the marriage proposal between Loki and Lola. Although that itself is not definitive proof that Harold was a good guy, it's atleast evidence that Harold truly did want to expand Elbaf's reach throughout the rest of the world instead of being closed in like Wano.

[@RagingIsBad]

Happy to be here before this theory is proven correct Insane theory my goat, makes plenty of sense as well

[@MrVenom626]

Question: What if Shanks was actually there? What if he and his brother actually fought and Shanks won in the end, at the same time King Harold got murdered and died? Loki gets in surprising them both and evil shanks left early leaving Shanks in the throne room in the same position as Sabo and King Nefatari? The kicker: Loki mistrusting and not believing shanks and eats the other sun god devil fruit and tries to kill him but gets defeated. Events of the death of King Harold and Loki's defeat (while having the devil fruit) gets heard around the world and Shanks becomes the emperor?

[@Sasukereturns]

10:40 How do you feel about Zoro's dream to become the WSS? That's just as much about combat as Usopp's conception of the Elbaf giants. Even if you argue that his dream is to be the WSS in service of Luffy now, I don't think that's Oda saying that a combat-based dream was wrong beforehand.