How the “Hindu caravan” was looted, and future of Indian secularism

In this week’s #NationalInterest, ThePrint Editor-In-Chief Shekhar Gupta explains why the burden of protecting India’s secularism, which has been outsourced to its 14% Muslims for too long, should shift to the Hindus.
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[@sb9060]

Indian Secularism means State wants secular commitments from Hindus only and exclusively.

[@bullrideryamaraja5944]

Why do you want to bring back Indian secularism which was always vocal about right to eat beef, but silent about right to draw the 7th century man?

[@bullrideryamaraja5944]

Secularism never existed in India and was just tool for political vote bank. When you agree to this fact, you can't put out ideas to bring "back" secularism in India. You can suggest idea for secularisation Indian society. This should be a social process and not a political process.

[@prasadakn9982]

Secular means a prejudiced point of view.

[@shyamraa]

Hunnu-Ghora destroyed Gupta Sr. Gupta Jr 🤓 became their P R mouthpiece. Hunnu Maujaa !!! 🥳

[@freesoul3466]

Calling muslim vote as secular vote one dumb thing that Indian political parties invented. That is main reason for current state of their fortunes.

[@anshuraj4277]

BJP did it

[@kirankoti6316]

@@anshuraj4277 U r funny 😂 When did BJP do it? Any evidence?

[@anshuraj4277]

@@kirankoti6316 Simple narrative building Modi is great PR master

[@anshuraj4277]

@Potassium Syndicate States are secular People are liberal or Conservative (world is more complicated but still) Unfortunately we as a society are still very conservative but we are certainly better than Pakistan or Myanmar

[@anshuraj4277]

@Potassium Syndicate Hey buddy....u r clearly living in delusion Good luck..lol

[@victortalukdar5889]

One more thought : our 70 year secularism has produced such wonderful results, that we are the only majoritarian country in the world where the majority wants a anti-conversion law , and the minority opposes it 😂😂

[@ahmadiiferoz8089]

Majority doesn't wants. It's just some fool and low confident people among hindus who want it.

[@victortalukdar5889]

@@ahmadiiferoz8089 Thank you for proving my point….It is attitude such as this, which is pushing Hindu votes to BJP by the buckets…

[@anshuraj4277]

People should be free to chose their religion

[@victortalukdar5889]

@@anshuraj4277 Agreed, but the way the current establishment is setup only encourages Hindus away…Other religions are free to demonize Hindus and their gods, show caste as a horrible thing, provide financial incentives to convert…and once they are converted they continue to identify as Muslim or Christian Dalits…This is a skewed system, which will only work if proselytization is allowed for Hindus as well…Let Hindus also form Pracharak committees , the unofficial Hindu groups pump in massive amounts to money to enable “ghar wapsi” of those same people…Agreed ?

[@anshuraj4277]

@@victortalukdar5889 First....most people die in religion they were born in Pew research show Equal numbers of conversions happen in and out of Hinduism Third Caste IS horrible

[@samnote2459]

I have a problem in saying "Bharat Mata ki Jai" but have no problem in saying "Sar tan se juda"; that's where our secularism is currently.

[@AnkurJayant64419]

So according to you those who do not condemn sar tan se juda, are supporting it.

[@abhishekjoshi4648]

@@AnkurJayant64419 Yes.

[@Akashkumar-oi7qt]

@@AnkurJayant64419 yes

[@arthurcage6073]

@@AnkurJayant64419 yup

[@naguok]

@@AnkurJayant64419 any doubt

[@niharikakhare8763]

Nailed it Mr. Shekhar. My opinion exactly. Hindu didn't become religious overnight. The so called secular parties have pushed him in a corner.

[@cauliflowerhead2735]

I disagree, given the extent of the caste system and superstitions within the Hindu community, we can say that Hindus were always religious but defensive religiosity for anyone other than lower castes is fairly new and the result of outrightly silly decisions taken by other political parties.

[@jigarthakor5994]

English speaking socialist mindset(Hindu inferiority complex) cannot understand what the religion means.

[@garyish]

@@cauliflowerhead2735 silly ? More like disastrous.. Rajiv Gandhi just to appease the Muslim clergy brought a law to overturn the Supreme Court verdict on the shah bano case and destroyed Muslim womens rights in one sweep. Then he realized his mistake and had to appease Hindus by opening the gates of ayodhya… competitive appeasement maybe. Which is what happens when your values are weak..

[@niharikakhare8763]

@@cauliflowerhead2735 please add the word. Fanatics to my opinion thats what I meant.

[@meetankush]

@@cauliflowerhead2735 come with real ID, abdool.

[@arc8244]

I suddenly thought I opened the wrong video as I saw the advertisement

[@tejashvi2733]

Wahi mereko laga ye kya karne.lage SG

[@chickenbuttermasala8458]

Yeah lol

[@aakashsingh5288]

I think wrong video is uploaded

[@secretscipio]

Same bro 🤣

[@sivani.ysk.]

Saaaammeee💀

[@SChaturvedi]

It is strange that Shekhar Gupta ji gets away with blaming Hindu's for the way the polity is. The responsibility of secularism has been always of Hindu's while other religions have been free to perpetuate their bigotry & weaponizing all spheres of life. Be it food (halal), property appropriation (waqf or Church), demographic change (conversion by allurement or creating hindu exodus), education against Hindus (madrasa or missionary schools), control of religious places (temples govt owned only in case of Hindus), every sphere of life has been either hijacked or been nibbled away leaving less space of Hindus day after day. Article 30, Right To Education Act, Waqf Act, Personal laws allowed only for minorities, etc. clearly discriminates against Hindus & Hindu institutions. Because Hindu are in majority so they can be discriminated against as a religion. And wherever they are in minority (Kashmir, North-east, etc) they don't not get the same benefits. Every separatist movment in India be it Kashmir Jihadi's, Naxals, Northeast Christian insurgents, SIMI, PFI, etc all have been anti-hindu at the core. Hindu's don't realise this because they are too confused by this secular talk and too guilt ridden by they just being a Hindu . But most of the Hindu's won't realise it just like Hindus of 1930s in Pakistan, 1960s in north-east, 1970s in Bangladesh didn't realise it what is waiting for them, as the space shrinks for them. This is what Shekhar saab and his tribe stands for. That's all western funded individuals, NGO's, organisations have been working for, A divided Hindu & a Balkanised India.

[@ic9771]

Very well compiled argument & analysis sir . I doff my hat to you . You've nailed it .

[@BooO0oOoOoOooOoOoyah]

Well articulated and precise, kudos to you sir!

[@psr4550]

Yes man Shekhar is a little biatch of librandus and foreign ppl who gives him money, old hag has sold his sold, modern jaychand

[@GaneshVIyer]

I fully support your reasoning. Islam and Christianity have been, are and will remain predatory religions full of their own shocking inequities and bizarre notions that have no foundation in scientific thought or reality. What is shocking is that most of these intellectuals actually say with a straight face, that "Hinduism has too many problems such as Caste system, andh-vishwas, irrationality etc etc.." and therefore Hinduism deserves to be done away with. In favor of what..? The Abrahamic faiths?? Any one who cherishes true democracy, will naturally gravitate towards Hinduism. The only system which encourages you to find your own method to uncover the universal truth. Hinduism is True spiritual democracy. And if Hinduism finds issues within itself, it has every right to be left alone. To find its own solutions. You have the concept of UN Heritage Sites, under which all kinds of tombs and nonsense structures are 'protected'.. Why not identify 6-8 UN Heritage Religions (like Hinduism, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Maoris, Red Indians, Mayans/Incans) which cannot be touched or 'invaded'?! That they will not.. because even the UN is the harem of sheikhs and rednecks.

[@sunilnambiar5326]

Absolutely... You have explained it very well...👍

[@5amyak]

While BJP attracts certain kind of voters through their projection. In practice, I find their govt more secular than previous ones.

[@kbaliyan]

Agree. They at least dont differentiate when giving benefits of schemes. Secularists did it blatantly to appease, knowing well, Hindus will anyway vote for them.

[@Raj123qwe]

Any examples?

[@udaybanavath]

Much agree

[@yahooezone]

true

[@yahooezone]

@NerdCell well said

[@anilmenon3701]

Shekarji, I was a hard-core secularists with connect with all caste, community and religiosity. But as I was growing up and maturing realized how one group were pampered while others were taken for granted. I learned it more when I moved to Kerala, the so called humdrum of secularists. There was open appeasement of the minorities who grabbed and controlled virtually all arenas from commerce, education, Healthcare etc. The realization of being marginalized in your own state was hurting. There was no voice to speak for the Hindus. The secularism in India was a scam for the last 70yrs. Keeping Muslims illiterate was the a strategy in North but they prospered due to gulf money in South turning their wealth into power grab and conversion. That's why uou don't see violence in kerala because it will effect their commerce while in North it happens frequently.

[@kartikpanickar973]

As a Bombay Mallu... I can confirm the same, those so called sickularist are just pampering one religion and controlling the Narrative. I worry that the demographics are heavily changing in Our home state Kerala and see a bleak future ahead.. 🙏

[@melchizedek2512]

I agree with you , I am not a Hindu , but even I feel that in Kerala one religion is pampered, we can see it in the reservation, funding of institutions in kerala

[@harshadrandhe5693]

Secularism in India is nearly impossible as Indians are very religious plus large muslim population which is more conservative than many islamic nation citizens . State should keep distance from religions equally as much possible .

[@veereshwarraomadasu5354]

@@harshadrandhe5693 it is not possible because of politics

[@akh-007]

Your arguments sound ridiculous. I'm yet to find any appeasment of anyone other than Hindus in the entire country. And where on earth is the wealth grab taking place? And what conversions? The only people talking about conversions are BJP MPs like Tejasvi Surya who openly call for the conversion of all muslims and christians. What a joke. And please dont denigrate South India, this country is only prosperous because of South Indians. The jobless people in the North are the ones being misled by the fanatics of the Sangh

[@youthink5552]

Just imagine 80 percent Muslim population and 15 percent Hindu population. What would have happened to Hindus and Sikhs and Christians and Jews. Shekhar just imagine and do a programme

[@Vizorfam]

Yeah keep imagining nonsense things told to you by godi meida sanghi bhakth

[@ic9771]

SG will have paralysis the moment he sees this comment & you're actually expecting him to act on it .

[@aashishgoel8749]

You don't need to imagine. Just look at Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

[@kartikpanickar973]

@@aashishgoel8749 exactly what I was gonna say...🤣 Don't imagine just read history and look at your neighbour

[@highplatform1649]

Secularism is a sham..India is Sanatan. Appeasing muslims is the worst mistake any country could do. Because muslims eventually want Shariah, they dont believe in democracy.

[@sarumugam999]

Secularists and liberals consider muslims as the sole minority.What about sikhs, jains,buddhists ,parsis?

[@ajeebdastan1152]

Exactly my point! Congress has treated Sikhs like shit, why? They may have been ok with Muslims, but then again, Muslims are the least developed community so I fail to understand what Congress did for Muslims!

[@kalebj7001]

In a democracy the 14-16% is what counts as a the main Minority. It's not my idea, it's how political parties think in evaluating their balance of power, even in ur case in that comment u have left our Christians.

[@kvineet631]

The other minorities can't effect the political discourse much, they might be prosperous but 1 person= 1vote and that insures that they aren't worth appeasing. Same can be said for direct tax payers, 2% of the total population, pays 100% of the direct taxes but have no political power to make government lower tax brackets.

[@subhadeeppaul]

We do not. That is a myth you lot have created and you propagate.

[@SrutiTravelvlogs]

What about Christians? We are a very small minority. Political parties don't care for us

[@srini8701]

@ThePrint Majority of the BJP supporters hate "Indian Secularism" or "Nehruvian Secularism" not because they hate Muslims but because of the appeasement politics of other "secular" parties. However, I think Shekharji must also question if the "Indian Secularism" in the form it is practiced is even a good thing. Is he saying that people being divided by caste were better than people divided by religion? Vote bank politics in any avatar is equally reprehensible.

[@rohanagarwal6848]

Absolutely correct it were just hindus on whom liability of being secular was imposed

[@JohnDoe-qp5sj]

Nehru was the biggest enemy of Hindus, he wished genocide of all Hindus.

[@avishekbhattacherjee1188]

That's the same question of mine too, I have seen so many regional parties has appease some cast over others and muslim community at that point all the " Intellectual" keep their mouth shut.

[@gomezmilkin340]

That's not true... A majority of them in the North have deep seated hate for Muslims.

[@millennialmind9507]

@@avishekbhattacherjee1188 blame it on lazyness. You get a blind support in politics from a certain region if you belong to a certain caste fron that certain region.

[@rajtango4401]

A community with 20 crore population is equal to population of Brazil, they should not be consider minorities

[@shyambajekal8084]

True. The real minorities are only the Parsis, Jews and Christians to some extent.

[@tushargoyal554]

@@renegadepuppy It all depends on perspective but Muslims can't be called minority because they are not really only 20 crores. Their population is much higher than that and when coupled with population of secularist-atheistic Hindus, they form the majority. They have always been at the core of king-making by virtue of en masse voting. You appease them and get the entire 15% vote and when this vote is coupled with the rabid Ambedkarite anti-Hindu votes it is a winning combination. Muslims may be minority only in absolute terms but they know the formula of exerting enormous influence and thus can't be termed as minority because of not having the problems faced by a minority. Moreover the concept of majority minority doesn't apply in the polytheistic societies. It's suitable for those societies where the majority population is monotheistic and thus the minorities need some assurance that their rights won't be overriden. Whereas the Hindus are polytheistic and don't culminate on an issue (this is the very fundamental nature of polytheism) so they don't need to give assurance to anyone.

[@tushargoyal554]

@@renegadepuppy You're confusing politics and monotheistic tribalism. Need to enlarge your thinking space.

[@tushargoyal554]

@@renegadepuppy You're still unfortunately very confused. Point 1 & 2: I'm specifically talking the tribalism amongst monotheistic cults. You must be too naive if you can't even understand the fundamental difference between monotheism and polytheism. The word 'mono' means one and 'poly' means multiple, the monotheists believe in singularity hence are more tribalistic and organized unlike polytheists. Maybe you could dive a little deep in understanding basics of various religious traditions else stick to data science only. Point 3: You may accuse me of anything but the fact remains the reported numbers are always less than the reality. And even if I accept your claim of 20 crores, I explained why it is still a majority. You seem to have missed my points listed above. One a side note, I guess you're a Bong so I don't have much expectations of logic, sense, or objectivity from you especially when it comes to understanding Hinduism/India. Marxists are anti-establishment and in India the dominant establishement is Hinduism so it's understandable that you will be pitching underdog religions (Islam and Christianity) against the Hinduism. It is not your fault, you have grown up in a state which has been under ultra far-left rule since decades and it's quite natural that you're the product of that thinking and times. Maybe living in US may change your thought process but it's difficult as you're too old for that.

[@tushargoyal554]

@@renegadepuppy You can't deny the fact that you're a Bengali and the ultra-left surroundings don't have impact on you. I'm a Baniya yes, and you can hold that prejudice for me too but let me make you aware that I'm myself anti-BJP because I consider it just an extension of Congress. Bengal may have produced good scholars but that is a thing of past, now the region is a cesspool of anarchy, bigotry and Islamism. You still fail to understand the fundamental difference between monotheists and polytheists. The polytheists are divided in their very essence unlike monotheists. Putting the degree of tribalism among both group on same pedestal is not only illogical but also intellectual dishonesty. I know why you're trying to underplay the role of religion here because it doesn't suit your worldview which is largely divided in economic classes are in constant struggle only due to economic reasons. Let me try to burst that theory - Can you tell me how many Hindus wanted construction of Ram Mandir? It was kind of a 50-50 divided between those who wanted and those who didn't. But on the same hand, can you tell me how many Muslims are okay with what Nupur Sharma said? Negligible! Conclusion being, the Muslims are united for a common cause of religion due to everything being one there (monotheism), it's easy to rally behind a cause whereas Hindus don't have a common cause to rally behind by virtue of being a polytheistic community and thus don't possess the strength of a majority. Hindus are collection of several hundreds of minority communities only.

[@MUMBAIKAR_ADITYA]

Secularism Should Also Be from Minorities especially muslims . There Should Not Be One Sided Secularism From Hindus and others religions . If they themselves are not secular how can they except others to be secular with them !!!!! In the End secularism is mutual understanding between citizens of various religions.

[@avishekbhattacherjee1188]

If any muslim are secular as they say then how not even a single country out of 57 is called a secular country where their concept is coming from the same book. It's their "Dhong"

[@cauliflowerhead2735]

I agree!!

[@duckpotat9818]

@@avishekbhattacherjee1188 out of 50 muslim majority countries, 23 are secular, Indonesia and mostly in central Asia and Caucasuses. Since Indonesia is included, it's probably a decent chunk of world's muslim population

[@hareshmehta1772]

@@duckpotat9818 and yet a majority of them are not secular (27). And how many in the 23, do the minorities, especially, the Hindus get preferential treatment like their own personal laws, control over their worshipping places, permission to take out religious processions, etc?

[@rahulgaur2883]

Right

[@_kartik_chauhan]

The contention between Hindus and Muslims Muslims do not embrace APJ Abdul Kalam who was Secular They embrace Auranzeb Who was not Secular Many believe in ummat You can't identify with that You have to fight a war even against Saudi Arabia Iran If they threaten India in any way You can't say That these are Muslims so will are no gonna fight for our motherland

[@anshuraj4277]

Literally no on embraces Auranzeb He was brutal king like most medieval kings

[@el-jp3xp]

Who said it bot?

[@_kartik_chauhan]

@@el-jp3xp u think that?

[@deadpool8580]

@@anshuraj4277 Bruh! You're just hurt that the narrative that's in India rn is not what you wanted. 'Literally no one'.. Haha! I'm sure you never went to Madarasa.

[@anshuraj4277]

@@deadpool8580 No serious thinker believes any Medieval kings were good Some worse than others but no one good All elite kings wanted power and were fucking war criminals if nothing else Thing is...fuck tons of Hindu as well as Muslim kings were like this

[@ranabanik1354]

Hinduism is inherently secular that is why all religion thrived under it’s shelter. This can be proved with data and history and religious scholars. Hinduism is self-critical unlike any other religion/ideology/faith. Only Hinduism ask to love unconditionally without any conversion. Hindus largely practice peace. Preaching secularism to Hindus is like lecturing farmers about farming…

[@samritichoudhary714]

If so much secular then why crimes against dalits have increased in bjp led states??

[@mukundbhardwaj5095]

@@samritichoudhary714 I think u should follow news ... Highest rate of crime against dalit is in Rajasthan..

[@samritichoudhary714]

@@mukundbhardwaj5095 yes. So there are hindus in rajasthan na. Then why commit crimes against dalits. aren't they hindus. For reservations you people are first to cry. But when we demand justice for dalits then uppee caste people hide there faces. Hindu raj will be the greatest tragedy for india. Especially for dalits. Today you are sidelining muslims Tomorrow it will be dalits.

[@mukundbhardwaj5095]

@@samritichoudhary714 No one is here to support dalit atrocities nor taking about hindu rashta... Plz read ur question and my answer and then reply don't write nonsense.

[@samritichoudhary714]

@@mukundbhardwaj5095 so why secularism is considered as a burden nowdays

[@naresh9515]

Exactly what I am thinking since 2014..... opposition parties are abusing Hindu in India and abroad and they are expecting to win election......

[@Vizorfam]

They are not abusing they are only saying truth

[@prathamsharma0000]

@@Vizorfam there is no truth greater than losing the elections

[@sb9060]

Indian Secularism means State wants secular commitments from Hindus only and exclusively.

[@ic9771]

@@Vizorfam Good . Then why're you whining that secularism is dead. Prepare for your Ghazwa e Hind.

[@theinappropriateguy5806]

@@Vizorfam what was 2047 islamic natiom plan mr secular

[@factsopinions6278]

Shakher Gupta wants us to believe that Muslims are secular and Hindus are not. Then says he has ideology 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Vizorfam]

In the current day scenario yes this is true bhakat

[@impossible9599]

@@Vizorfam what's secularism?

[@Minato89672]

@@Vizorfam yyou are here too 😅 padai krle bhai thoda secular sickular to chlta rhega ...

[@Vizorfam]

@@Minato89672 i have completed by studies and working right now along with preparing of govt job because I cannot handle capitalism and greed of these corporate people

[@Vizorfam]

@@impossible9599 respecting minorities

[@shubh_1895]

I have more faith in Kohli getting back in form than Indian political opposition to get off twitter and work on the ground. They still think they are entitled to "rule" (not serve) Rahul Gandhi's tweets and his echo chamber of intellectual make that pretty clear.

[@FreeYourImagination]

Wah!👌🏽

[@dkumartiwari6656]

Also as long as they keep calling BJP voters or anyone saying minutely in fav of them a "bhakt" there's no chance for them to stand any ground 🤣🤣

[@gunjitkumar]

Good for us

[@gunjitkumar]

@CONFID3NC3 I agree but in the last 2-3 years I haven't seen them raise a single issue which really matters Only thing they are doing is bashing each other and obstructing development and push for reforms

[@Indian-cv6hq]

Let trash stay in the landfill for the greater good

[@trueindian9338]

If the Hindus continue to be divided by caste and allow themselves to be used by short sighted politicians, we would just be repeating the historical blunders that led to enslavement and finally, the division of India. Having said that, the bjp govt is performing well and the image of India and Indians has changed globally, with the world developing respect and admiration for Indians, which clearly wasn’t the case in the past.

[@vs9948]

Exactly, the first process should be throw the Brahmans out of India.

[@OviamAmbu]

Even a small child in India knows what the word "Secularism" means in Indian politics, any body who is anti hindu is "SECULAR" but shekhar gupta lives in his own dream world

[@Morpheus2020]

I was a hard core secularist then i had the pleasure of tasting reality.

[@spendharkar6731]

After living under Secular governments for 70 years it is facetious to say that Hindus wish to live in a Secular country. Shekhar is ignorant of the preachings of Quraan to make Bharat Dar ul Islaam or maybe he prefers that his progeny live under those conditions which are prevailing in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

[@nnoor1715]

Preachings? What verse? Please educate me

[@tushargoyal554]

@@nnoor1715 Islam has very clear distinction between Dar ul Islam and Dar ul Harb.

[@jigarthakor5994]

I wonder that these english speaking journalists would have ever tried to figure out the reasons behind redicalness of Islam.

[@ankitmahlawat167]

@@nnoor1715 here you come defending the undefendable . You must be so miserable that you guys get offended by apparently nothing . There are so many thing Shekhar must have pointed out but instead of commenting on that you are stuck on defending this.

[@spendharkar6731]

@@nnoor1715 Refer to Sura 9 Al- Tawbah Ayats 9.1 to 9.14. I am sure you know the meaning of these verses which refers to the 'pagans and disbeliever' that is Hindus of Bharat, but you as is usual simply taking the deception route by use of the word 'educate'.

[@mr.y6053]

Secularism in Indian context means anti Hindu,its true.You have to be annti Hindu then you will be secular.We want China like secularism in India.Even Pakistan,Bangladesh are secular that type of secularism we want in India.

[@azurewolfacacian3887]

China actively discourages religion . So you want india to be like it.

[@panzerofthelake506]

You don't want to be Athiest like china, they both abuse and punish religion

[@harshitrautela6585]

Yup

[@PrasannaKumarPeaks]

One of the most sickening episodes from SG!! So, when Hindus were divided by caste, that was fine! The 'Seculars' could win!! Now that Hindu's are getting United, they become Non-Secular, eh?? Knowing fully well that Hindus, by and large are the most secular, peaceful and accommodating community in the world, are now branded as 'communal, and the least secular religion (Islam) has become synonymous with 'secular' for SG!! Felt like vomiting at this blatant travesty of truth and justice!! 😒

[@rohitgupta797]

What is this bullshit? Majority of the people of this country has always been united against external forces. Cant people vote for different parties in a democracy?

[@kvineet631]

I don't think he is advertising for the "secular" parties to win. He is analysing why they were winning and why they are not? And I find the analysis to be more or less on point. I don't see him giving any cheat sheets to them to succeed, what he said has been quite well known.

[@kbaliyan]

Yes, its okey with SG and so called "secular" parties if Muslims are united but Hindus are divided. Why should there be any division at all? These "secularists" have been scaring Minority (Is it minority?) that BJP will finish that. Did that happen in lst 8 years? Arent they getting all benefits, even though Gov knows they dont vote? Is it anti-minorirty if criminlas are arrested, their properties damaged? What kind of laws we want? Dont all citizens require equal rights? Why should only Majority suffer?

[@kvineet631]

@@kbaliyan Politics is cutthroat competition and in a democracy it's everything. Everyone tries their own tricks and everyone has to evolve. The Muslims+xyz caste groups was the winning formula for quite some time, today it has evolved. Maybe for the "secular" parties, trying to retain that formula is suicide today, but if they evolve and do come up with something new and better then i see no problem with that either. That would be healthier for the democracy in a long run.

[@tushargoyal554]

@@kvineet631 will you be okay with competitive Hindutva?

[@akd480]

I am tired of saying feel our 'secular' media and 'secular' opposition are too lazy to understand their loses in elections. After every election result they put this simplistic analysis. Good luck and keep doing it you will have to do it for long time. Unless they understand the true meaning of 'secular' and continue their appeasement politics they will continue to face this. All the best to our 'secular' journalists and 'secular' politicians. As more and more Indians will get educated and develop the power of reasoning they will understand how the narrative are built and how the trumpet of secularism is blown by the so called 'secular' people to crush their dreams and self respect. Self generated indian politician's secularism definition: unless hindus support their suppression we are not secular, rest is fine. As per them only one community is secular, they support everyones faith. All others are communal. I know they will keep repeating this foolishness and face the same fate. How can these 'secular' parties be so foolish that they haven't understood this fact. In our constitution secularism only means govt doesn't have any religion. But these political parties feel appeasement of one community is secularism. And btw who is distributing this secular tag? I also want to have one.

[@fatehsingh356]

Kindly name some Hindu Suppression In India?? Even after Bhagwan Modi in power- Hindu khatre me hai? This is nothing but making of a Hindu Pakistan - soon we willl become syria & it will be hindus who will flee out of country

[@harshakumar104]

I agree that there is so-called "appeasement" in talk. But think of it in terms of action on the ground. How many Muslims have been Central Government Ministers, since 1947, till 2014, when the Congress was in power? What is the percentage of Muslims holding positions in the civil services? Are they present in the IITs? In the corporate sector? You will find that on most parameters, it's one of the worst-performing communities. And the BJP is not improving things by permitting all sorts of vitriol against them, and passing laws like anti-conversion laws. If you leave the talk, and look at hard data, you will find that being a Muslim in India is not at all a pleasant thing. On the contrary, large numbers of Hindus are doing extremely well, in business, in education, you name it. You are not refused a house in Mumbai because you are a Hindu, right? Your place of worship has not been demolished and another one built with the tacit approval of the Supreme Court, has it been? Have you seen this happening in Western Europe, the US, or other mature democracies? And somehow Hindus are supposed to be the oppressed ones here! Really? I guess facts are the ones that need to be checked. Opinion is free, so go ahead, keep yours.

[@PB-hf9of]

It is no wonder then that Maulana Abul Kalam Azad, the first Education Minister of Independent India, condemned Akbar terming his ‘tolerant rule as the near-suicide of Indian Islam’ and praised the fanatic Sufi master, Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi, who had revolted against Akbar and urged for the restoration of Hindu persecution, that’s secular mr Hindu journalist? Only Hindu secularism can save us , not Islamic secularism

[@darshu94]

@@mohibquadri4053 Secularism added forcefully in constitution during 1975 emergency. Also words dont matter hindus are by attitude secular even if its written or not. While ppl like u are just opportunist who wants india to become islamic in the garb of secularism

[@PB-hf9of]

@@mohibquadri4053 it will help Ghazwa e Hind

[@ashishpatil30595]

@@mohibquadri4053 So Parsis and Jews migrated to India due to persecution without knowing that Indians were Secular or not.

[@anshuraj4277]

Secularism has no religion Azad was great Nationalist

[@PB-hf9of]

@@mohibquadri4053 from Ambedkar to Rabindranath all has expressed that even any educated Muslim tend to think they are part of Arabic nation and tend to adopt Arabic culture, in days of struggle they confided that they will rather stand by any Islamic nation. You got to read a lot to understand why you are not Arab , you are descendent of Mahabharata and Ramayana , but you deny it conveniently . Read Ambedkar “ partition of India and Pakistan “ at least this one book available on line. You seem to be not mullah kind, hence this advice

[@veteran4226]

1947 was the very wrong time to preach secularism to a nation recently torn apart by a minority communalism.

[@yogeshkalantre4907]

I am not even a bit sad with this current plight of the so-called secular parties as they are hardly secular, but more more anti-Hindu. How do they expect Hindus to vote for them when they don't miss any opportunities to insult Hinduism & Hindus? They believe that insulting Hinduism is main prerequisite to prove their secular credentials. Also, one thing that I don't understand how BJP can be blamed for the Muslim alienation when so-called secular parties have demonized BJP as anti-Muslim to such an extent that supporting BJP has become an anti-Muslim activity. In my opinion, if these so-called secular parties want to get back Hindu votes, they first have to prove that they can be fair to Hindus. I don't think that will happen anytime soon as in fact they seem to go in the opposite way. They don't seem to have understood the reason of their current state and still seem to be in denial. I believe that India needs strong opposition parties. But, currently, let alone being strong, there doesn't seem to exist even a functioning opposition party and if they keep following the current path, I don't think this changing in any foreseeable future.

[@TheDonMan97]

The issue is secularism seemed like a great idea on paper and movies. Everyone is friend. Less communal violence. No attacks on citizens. Everyone does their own shit. No wonder Nehru thought it was a good idea. But, it has only been to the opposite what it was supposed to represent. And, the blame was always put on the majority never the minority according to both GoI and Western media. I think frankly people got fed up with that and now, we have one of the most powerful governments India has seen since Nehru times.

[@kbaliyan]

Nehru was hardly secular- same was our Gandhi. They always showed soft side to Second Majority. It was okey with them to divide nation- as Muslims were not supposed to be ruled by Hindus. Due to their "Soft" corner, even partition was not done well- as Ambedkar wanted.

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

Nehru was booted by his party voters BUT Gandhi made him PM!! Nehru even became the icon of democracy for colonized Hindus, congress & Indian slave media!! Nehru & the fascist British/European Christians who created Islamic terror land Pakistan became SECULAR!!

[@sandipsakhare6465]

Dear Sir just putting my thoughts - maintaining secular fabric of the country cannot be responsibility of any one community only. The majority community must be large hearted and accommodative, while the minorities must not be given a sense of privileged class. Its a shared responsibility. Lets live together and find the similarities rather than fight over the differences. Jai Hind!!

[@Vizorfam]

Hindus are a large population and should learn how to adjust with different faith also minorities are already doing so much

[@mrbhaskarn]

@@Vizorfam so much what?

[@gufestus4106]

@@Vizorfam Doing what exactly?

[@sankalp6872]

@@Vizorfam Ms are only creating chaos. A China-like solution is needed to treat the "rabid dogs" of the "Sar tan se juda" community.

[@sb9060]

Indian Secularism means State wants secular commitments from Hindus only and exclusively.

[@GeopoliticswithPM]

Dr Ambedkar says. “The third thing that is noticeable is the adoption by the Muslims of the gangster’s method in politics. The riots are a sufficient indication that gangsterism has become a settled part of their strategy in politics. …. So long as the Muslims were the aggressors, the Hindus were passive, and in the conflict, they suffered more than the Muslims did. But this is no longer true. The Hindus have learned to retaliate and no longer feel any compunction in knifing a Musalman. This spirit of retaliation bids fair to produce the ugly spectacle of gangsterism against gangsterism.”

[@ahmadiiferoz8089]

While comparing upper caste Hindus with Muslim communalists, he said, “Charged with this selfish idea of class domination, they take every move to exclude the lower classes of Hindus from wealth, education and power... This attitude of keeping education, wealth and power as a close preserve for themselves and refusing to share it, which the high caste Hindus have developed in their relation with the lower classes of Hindus, is sought to be extended by them to the Muslims. They want to exclude the Muslims from place and power, as they have done to the lower class Hindus. This trait of the high caste Hindus is the key to the understanding of their politics.” In 1935, Ambedkar publicly proclaimed, 'I was born a Hindu because I had no control over this, but I shall not die a Hindu.'

[@kbaliyan]

Ambedakr also said, "In muslims/Ismlam. brotherhood is only for Muslims. There is no brotherhood with other religions". Hence they dont live happily with others.

[@shantanushekharsjunerft9783]

Growing up in 80s and 90s it was simple strategy for “seculars”: divide Hindus along caste line, please the mullah, and get the mullah to urge his sheep into voting in a block. That caste split has been eliminated now and mullah is left powerless.

[@shantanushekharsjunerft9783]

@Nitesh Kumar I actually want more scientific education, free speech and less religion. Mullahs have been doing the exact opposite of this for 75 years. We are being threatened by a scientifically inclined superpower to the north, religion is not going to protect us.

[@rahul3134]

@@shantanushekharsjunerft9783 Which is why embracing hinduism is important as it is counter to all forms of doctrinal religions. A Hindu India is never going to fight abortion or vaccinated but only on scientific terms.

[@tushargoyal554]

@Nitesh Kumar It is an Islamic nation in practice. The Hindus can't control their own temples, Hindus can't demand justice for their demolished temples, Hindus can't ask others to respect their festivals, religious beliefs, etc. Hindus can't open schools to teach the Hindu culture and religion. India will remain an Islamic country till this stupid constitution remains. The only solution is birth of a new republic based on Hindu principles.

[@lautheimpaler4686]

@Nitesh Kumar India is an Islamic Rashtra

[@_kartik_chauhan]

They are not Secular parties They were Muslim religious + caste parties That wasn't Secularism That was Muslim appeasement and caste politics

[@rajanigali123]

For the sake of reality, please stop calling non-BJP parties as ‘Secular’ parties, instead you can call them Muslim appeasement parties or anti Hindu parties.

[@yahooezone]

right

[@elbonia4682]

Thats why Shekar Gupta called them so called secular

[@nageshkamath4740]

Well said. But what more can one expect from a so called 'secular journalist' from Luten club.

[@yahooezone]

@@nageshkamath4740 Well said.

[@revanth84]

If Muslims reciprocated the same secularism like Hindus, then Hindu's wouldn’t have been so against them. The issue is in India only Hindus practice secularism when Christians and Muslims can practice their religion of "Peace". Hindu culture is at brink and though i was never a BJP fan - i became their supporter after seeing how the left lobby is killing Hinduism in India, Mass conversions in south India. If there is so much called secularism why doesn’t anyone talk about Bishop raping teens and Muslims radicals threatening Hindus. That is why Secularism is not relevant anymore to Hindu as we only have this country whereas Muslims and Christians have several countries that they can take refuge in. 🙏

[@akeshravi9640]

Shekhar Ji those who are voting for the BJP including myself were hardcore secularist once.. But the moment we realise that Secularism was always one sided right from 1947,we just become Politically Hindu.... Scroll down the comment section and you will understand...

[@abhinavbhaskar20]

Nailed it

[@nimmibraroo3202]

I was firmly with Congress as a supporter for 30Years in kashmir. Post 1990 when I was forced to leave kashmir due to jihadi terror. Post 1990 I found all secular parties looked other way in our case. We met MP's of all parties including left but no sympathy. So slowly I went to BJP as a sympathiser. How hypocrite was MMS saying, Muslims or Minorities have first right on resources of India. Why????

[@a67tejaskhandale99]

i really want to choose parties that base their campaigns on economics, science and other issues, but the threat of radical Islam doesn't let me. Plus, the congress makes it very easy to choose BJP, they are siding with the communists, as a studentof business how can I let a party who loves socialism takeover my country

[@indranidasgupta3804]

I shudder to think what if 😢.... We become like Malaysia or Indonesia one day .....

[@duckpotat9818]

As a student of science all I see is a hard-core atheist socialist techocracy leaving our "secular" democracy leaving behind in science, technology and prosperity. Before you say cHiNa is cApiTaliSt just know 80% of its economy comes from State enterprises

[@footyshorts6323]

Exactly !! Radical Izlam is the only reason i feel like i can't vote for any other party. If MuZlims were not radical, but rational, then i could think of other options

[@victortalukdar5889]

2 things to note here : (1) Liberals in India now peddle this narrative that BJP has divided the nation, which is utter rubbish…India was already divided when Congress was ruling, it is just that the division was in caste ( Hindus were told to vote as a Caste, and not as a Hindu ), and that suited the political establishment very well, who played around with caste and religion vote banks to win elections… ( 2) There was always an undercurrent of strong resentment against such vote bank politics , and that is why BJP’s polarization tactic was so successful so fast in India from 2014 onwards….No one thought such a rapid cohesion of Hindu vote bank will happen in India, and BJP has made the unthinkable happen…

[@trueindian9338]

Very well said..

[@udaychaudhary255]

Best comment

[@tge2102]

I remember the amount of fuss created over the "dharma sansad" incident where some literal powerless nobody said evil and deplorable things but being taught about "potential Hindu nationalism" literally days after a prominent and supported muslim organisation calls for ISIS style action with no coverage of the later shows us what "secularism" means to journalists

[@AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj]

Exactly

[@deepeshyadav3935]

What kind of rights hindus are getting in pak,bangladesh,afganistan ,what happened to hindus in kashmir ,kerala and bengal are going to be new kashmir Muslim don't vote for bjp so why bjp should give them representation or ticket Muslims want secularism, where they are in minority like madhya pradesh but they don't want to give equal treatment to hindus where they are in majority

[@shekhar1438]

Had there been real intent to not appease certain community and certain media add to it, the word secular has been made a joke in our country. When certain journalists talk passionately about secularism, I feel they miss the ground realities and the evidence is where we are today!

[@arunradhakrishnan1833]

Good analysis, I agree with the summary, unless opposition truly convinces that they care for hindus as well , there is no future for them. If parties like DMK who r 100% anti hindus as secular, then BJP can also be called as secular,

[@vs9948]

DMK is just anti Brahman not anti Hindu, they are anti mulla Hinduism aka Hindutva, alright and What Brahmans did was very wrong, and if their is hate against them it's justified.

[@HeavenRacer422]

Tamil hindus are more religious than others. But hindutva movement yet to reach Tamilnadu. So DMK is winning and shows it's hate for hindus to get xtian and muslim votes. When hindutva will be a force they will start going to temples like now congress leaders are going. Hinduism isn't political like Abrahamic faiths are.

[@sb9060]

Indian Secularism means State wants secular commitments from Hindus only and exclusively.

[@Vizorfam]

So what's wrong in it you have more population you have to take care of things

[@arthurcage6073]

​@@Vizorfam Who the f**k told this logic ? Do you know how much GDP contribution by Parsi community in India. Secularism is two way street, This Gupta dumbazz doesn't know that, being Editor in chief. Tell him to first report about "Irfan killing Shakuntala and Lakshmi devi in Sultanpur because they refused to sleep with Irfan"

[@sumitdutta7043]

@@Vizorfam but its fruitless bcoz the other religions are not becoming inclusive at all

[@sb9060]

@@Vizorfam Have you any sense of the term *equality* ? Ops! Sorry! you are a clandestine medieval sharia supporter. You believe in half worth of witness of woman with respect to man. You supports that LGBT community to be eradicated. You support 4 wives of a man. Your statement, after being scientifically and psychologically analysed, exposes you in terms of modern civilisational values.

[@arthurcage6073]

@@mohibquadri4053 Every Indian is proud of APJ especially Hindu community. Muslim community disowns him because he doesn't fit your agenda of Fake Victim card.

[@krishgetz]

Used to a fan of your analysis. I question your quality now. The past few episodes about Muslims are absolutely amazing in it’s nonsense. Secularism is not the duty of just one religion, but of every Indian irrespective of caste or religion. It’s not only for the Hindus to adhere to. The Muslims not progressing inspite of previous regimes giving them privileges and money flowing in from abroad is not a Hindu’s fault. It’s the fault of their own people looking back to the past rather than building a better future.

[@jagstelikicherla7278]

I don't think you understood what SG is saying.. He says that the "appeasement politics" in the name of "secular" has lived it's life and expired and not going to come back ever. He is saying that if any opposition wants to challenge BJP, they have to get the "Hindu" vote back. And as of now, no one knows how to do it. BJP is playing the "religion" card and it's perfectly fine in a democracy. They just need to control it before it becomes too large to contain.

[@kbaliyan]

@@jagstelikicherla7278 But my question is why do we need to emphasis on "Secularism", why dont we just stick to Democracy, with equal rights to all. If all citizens are getting benefits of national schemes, opportunity of education (choice is there at least) without discrimination, why should a section of society should worry? In all countries, Country comes first- it should be that way as "Relihion" is too personal.

[@tushargoyal554]

@@jagstelikicherla7278 You seem to be a faithful spokesman of SG.

[@jagstelikicherla7278]

@@kbaliyan , "secular" is not any wrong word to use anywhere..it means all religions are equal to the state. We don't have to fear that word. 😀 The issues you wrote are all true and that's why BJP is ruling the country now. Appeasement of any section is wrong. Be it on the name of caste or religion or race or language or anything..

[@jagstelikicherla7278]

@@tushargoyal554 , hahaha..thats a great compliment. Thank You. 😀

[@vedprakash-zl9tx]

Secularism word came in our beloved constitution in 1976 through 42nd amendment when whole of opposition was in jail....secularism word in constitution was never before 1976 and should not be anymore in the constitution....we are a multi-religious, multipolar society and not a secular one...the constituent assembly debate regarding secularism stated clearly that India cannot be a secular country and it would be injustice to India's philosophy by copying the word from west.....Bdw India cannot be anyway be a secular country when majority of her temples are under the control of govt., this clearly defines the vague characteristic of her secualrism

[@Vizorfam]

As a hindu and majority of this country you have responsibility of protection of minorities from some hindus who are becoming radical

[@sumitdutta7043]

@@Vizorfam same is the responsibility of those Hindus to protect the hindus which were butchered by muslims And converted into Christians through rice bags...

[@arthurcage6073]

@@Vizorfam Comment without logic will be ignored, shamed and laughed.

[@thebookist1651]

This is what happens with Sanghis try to think a lot 🤣🤣 they hurt themselves, Read the Keshvananda bharti case where this no where to be found secularism was made part of the basic structure of the Constitution

[@arthurcage6073]

​@@thebookist1651 Then you read about When shakuntala(55) and Lakshmi dev(22) get murdered because they refused to sleep with Irfan in Sultanpur. Then come and preach about secularism to Hindus.

[@adityask277]

For a second I thought I opened news laundrys satire 😂😂😂

[@drvivekanandasuri5843]

Very sophisticated way of crying with lot of polished words. Shekar Gupta has shown his true legacy

[@bangbong1215]

We never really had secularlism. We only had a bastardized version of it. Else nupur sharma recently and many more earlier would have received much more support for saying something offensive against religious figures probably ambedkar realized that india did not have the maturity for it

[@vk-id8vu]

Dr B R Ambedkar was 100% right. Who were the founders to ordain how succeeding generations should structure Indian society. Socialism became half-dead in 1991 & Secularism probably half-died in 2014.

[@mlg1279]

Secularism is very much alive in Modi's rule. Modi is playing the same game that con-gress played. Can u name a single legislation that weakened secularism in Modi's rule?

[@Anp562]

I will believe in this secularism if Muslims explicitly say that Indian Constitution is above Quran. Till then I’ll be a right wing BJP supporter

[@nadeemsiddiqui8259]

did u believe that constitution is above gita ?

[@Anp562]

@@nadeemsiddiqui8259 I do. Geeta is just a guidance text for us. Not everyone has even read the Geeta. If there is a contradiction between Geeta and our constitution, then the constitution governs. Can you say the same about Quran?

[@AnIndianify]

@@nadeemsiddiqui8259 If there is any conflict between my country and religion country wins, same cannot be said for the people of peaceful religion.

[@nikusingh191]

Shekhar says that India's secularism was outsourced to its 14% Muslim. Nothing could be further from the truth. If India today somehow becomes a Muslim majority country the first thing they will throw into Gupta's face will be his beloved secularism. Gupta try to sound convincing but arguments hollows out itself.

[@Indian-cv6hq]

No one can change these idiots. Ex muslims should have a word with them

[@sb5224]

One of the biggest achievements of BJP is bridging of caste divides in Hindi heartland. Some good comes out of everything. What amazes me is that Indian intellectual brain trust would rather prefer India be divided in castes and be governed by corrupt dynasts.

[@ritwikpanday5705]

Excellent analysis to misguide audiences because there is no mention of quality of governance delivered by political parties.

[@debadutta124]

be happy.. you have 2 likes. you also belong to the same group Sekhar was mentioning. 😁

[@ritwikpanday5705]

@@debadutta124 on the contrary, what I meant was there are political parties that strive hard to deliver governance and have done extremely well - including BJP, KCRs party, AAP in Delhi. So only polarisation doesn’t win elections. But apparently, focusing on just religion, polarisation drives viewership.

[@WhistleMaster]

12:10 - Muslim ‘Activists’, yes the ones who wanted to break India by attacking the ‘chicken neck’! Openly being an enemy of the state and then crying victimhood!

[@belthuranand]

Shekhar, its so wrong to characterize BJPs win as only politics of consolidating Hindu votes. It’s important to also acknowledge the work that they have done as compared to lackadaisical performances of the previous governments. Get a hold of yourselves

[@pankajjoshi1209]

100% right.. SG mentions elephant in the room.. The real elephant that he ignores is the performance of the BJP gov under Modi..

[@TheGradeFootballer]

India is a pluralistic society and NOT a Secular society. How hard is that to fathom ??

[@sowmyakarthikeyan8654]

The day a congress prime Minister of India told a Muslim have first right on this country, I lost hope in congress forever.

[@WhistleMaster]

3:50 - ‘secular’ parties, meaning parties which appease Muslims.

[@DARK-0007]

Where were you when we hindus were divided on the basis of caste system ? and now we are uniting and Abolishing caste system it is threat to secularism 🙄🙄

[@viswanathanseshadri1047]

He is a lobbyst and agent for dividing Hindus - consoidate "minorities" and divide Hindus. It was majorly caste previously. It stopped at caste only because caste sufficed to dlkerm Hindus divided. Now that the caste divisions are being overcome, he is now working on dividing Hindus by region, language. Hindi Hindu rhetoric. He is hopeful he will be able to instigate Bengal, South, Punjab against Hindutva using this tactic. Check out his previous episodes.

[@growmore992]

Sir, every voter for BJP doesnt vote due to Hinduism, the Govt has delivered exceptional standards in Service Delivery, Respectable stature in Global Geo-Politics

[@fatehsingh356]

Loda delivery

[@godfatherpachino7549]

If United Hindu vote for a party then that would be a communal party If Muslims vote for a single party that would be secular one... These types of shallow observation and double standards measures is what made Indian public to check their ground..... Giving salaries to maulanas by these secular parties is well adjusted with Delhi journalists.. Hindus have realised their worth and thus making these pseudo secular parties worthless. Jai Hind

[@maddyc503]

Secularism is a must for India. Anyone who thinks it isnt is the biggest traitor. Punjab, Lakshwadweep, J&K, Ladakh, the Northeast all have non-Hindu majorities. This nation cant simply function without it, Jai Hind.

[@tamobiswas6083]

New 'secular' is Dharmic Hindu Buddhist Sikh Jain Animists and Tribals Now this will always have majority

[@divyanshsingh9138]

Don't teach Hindus about secularism. We are inclusive since the start . India is one of few places where Jews and Parsis were welcomed and never got persecuted. Go and teach secularism to Pakistan , Bangladesh were Hindus are vanishing in unimaginable numbers . Temples getting destroyed , women getting converted and even killed . How do you think that we Hindus are not secular . Do Hindus have similar rights in Islamic countries ?? Hell No they don't have even 10% of rights compared to their counterparts. India will remain secular until Hindus are here otherwise what can happen later on can be seen in Pakistan , Bangladesh and Afghanistan where secularism is a joke .

[@viswanathanseshadri1047]

They Ara all native communities of India who have now been de-hinduised. These communities could have been perfectly accomodated and felt at home with the "Hindus", but for the Islamic and Christian affiliations which they have acquired following their conversion.

[@Vivek10010]

Secularism ka matlab padh ke aao pehle. French secularism hota is desh me to chalta, ye bakwas Indian kisam ka "secularism" sabse badi bakchodi hai.

[@_kartik_chauhan]

Think this specifically Northeast is different for us They have their own culture and We respect that Goa is 34% Christians How many of them fear BJP ?

[@mobbu6527]

"did so little for muslims"? I mean why , there's always an emphasis on doing something special for muslims? Why are they so special for the Indian elites? Don't I, a lower middle class also deserve something?

[@abhinav.mishra17]

Nothing like that. Congress has entrenched itself so deep in the systems of our country esp. Bureaucracy, judiciary, University profs, etc. that BJP needs to pushback very hard to restore the balance. I don't think even Modi is doing it effectively. Congress mentality needs to be uprooted totally.

[@sundareshkrishna6457]

SG sir, you never told us why azad Saab whispered these words in Nehru’s ear?

[@hirenbafna]

I feel SG you are somewhat wrong on few counts here. The burden of Secularism is On Muslims may be, but have any of the commentators ever asked why the secularism should have parties like MUSLIM League, AIUDF etc. Why? Are the ready to throw them out of their alliance. The 2014 Victory of BJP was the anger against the power without responsibility practiced by the GANDHIS, the records will show that in 2009 INC lost votes in crucial states but the BJP was in so much disarray that they were not even able to catch them. Whatever you may mention the record of all the so called secular formations on protecting the MUSLIMS has been terrible. Be it Bhagalpur, Mumbai, Ahmedabad before 1996 to Muzafrabad in UP in 2014. They have delivered very little or no justice. Further you also forget the concerted effort to do polarization. Recently concluded UP Assembly polls showed what MUSLIMS consolidated with SP then the counter consolidation was natural. What stops them from treating them as fellow INDIANS with similar issues of FOOD, JOB, WATER, HOUSE. Also almost all the secular parties are family owned operated enterprises. Where are the muslims in that?

[@premprasad3511]

More fundamentally Mr SG, for as long as "liberal" people like you think that hindu vote is hindutva , and casteist and muslim vote as secular, hindutva will win..

[@mangala1952]

I have great respect for Sri Shekar Gupta's command over language and decent presentation. His observation in this video may hold good for 2014 results. But 2019 result is reflection of clean administration and international approach.according to me.

[@subbin1971]

This is a perfect analysis. The opposition parties communally attacking BJP to attract the main minority Muslim votes .Whatever appeasement they make ,they could attract only 14% of votes. That won't help the opposition..When opposition does so BJP play the Hindu card very strongly & consolidate Hindu votes smartly. Ultimately, opposition created an Image in India that BJP stands for only Hindu community. For BJP, this image is a bless for them. Consolidated Hindu votes will decide their Election winning...They are least bothered about Muslim & other minority votes.

[@kbaliyan]

True they are "Least bothered" about Muslims (vote), but they dont deprive them of any benefit of national schemes. That way- they appear more Secular than those who try to get Muslim votes just via appeasment.

[@subbin1971]

@@kbaliyan Exactly...Yes, they will continue to get all benefits & privileges as defined in Constition. They are constittuionally secure...But, the kind of extremism or fundamentalism in the name of minority vote bank won't work out any more ...

[@rajsrinivasan2521]

Shekhar… this is fantastic. I am a Hindu and a liberal conservative (I am sure you understand what I mean by this). I overwhelmingly and completely support BJP and Modi because of the continuous tarnishing of my beliefs by secular parties in last few decades. The congress and its coteries will support any body who acts against my beliefs and cultural values. While I completely support Modi, as a devoted Hindu I am secular by nature. I strongly believe that there are many ways to reach God and I respect all religions. I never speak ill of anyone else’s. My best friends are in all religions ! My point is that if I have to save my identity the only way for me is to support whoever supports me or at least whoever is not tarnishing my identity… I do say the fault lines in the society is growing deeper which is not good for the country and for everyone.. So we need a leader who takes everyone along and give better narrative to BJP. It will not work if you just take care of one section of the society - it is not a sustainable way Having said all these, I was very skeptical taking membership in print but have been watching you for months. Now you convinced me and I will subscribe. I want to conclude by saying that I am a Hindu and love and respect people from all religions. Together we win ! Jai Shri Ram

[@harshakumar104]

If your best friends are in all religions, do you realize that your overwhelming love for the BJP is actually harming their interests. There are tangible steps taken that can hurt them - actual laws and bills that have been passed. By the way, if you want to see the legacy of your favorite party, just look at the comments here abusing Muslims and calling them names. The fact that this has become acceptable says a lot about your party, and what it has done to society.

[@troyatwork]

" The burden of protecting India's secularism was outsourced to its 14 % Muslims " ... according to Mr Gupta in this video ... kya bakwaas hai .. abhi bhi Muslims have to be portrayed as the last defenders of secularism.. kya baat hai Guptaji .. as long as people like you keep lying about this nothing will change .. But may be this is what happens to " secularism " when its protection is outsourced to the least secular religious group of all ..

[@prasiddhanarayansaurabh9239]

it is dumb to classify caste-identity based parties as secular votes! RJD and SP are caste goon outfits who take part in elections; some one so senior as you calling them secular is too much of a compliment man; extremely disappointing!

[@seshadrirajkumar1812]

Dear Respected Shekarji, The bjp was in power from 1989 to 2004, the hindu vote (as per your words_ was with bjp for some time but hindu vote shifted back to Congress lead UPA was oppurtunity to rule

[@rajatdeshmukh1827]

REAL BALANCE IS WHEN ONE SIDE IS MORE STRONGER THAN OTHER

[@shradhashisprasad93]

I really fail to understand the word "Secularism". Any party which appeases the so called muslim minority are branded as secularists. But to me they are more communal in their approach, forgetting that the country has Hindus as a majority. BJP looks like an overtly Hindu leaning party, but the biggest beneficiaries, in terms of a religious group, of all the govt freebies like housing, gas, toilets etc are muslims due to their economic status. Hence, it's time the other parties focus on the overall development of the poor Indians rather than a religious group. Otherwise they would only be ranting on the errors of the govt than taking some positive ideology for the development of everyone.

[@quantum4907]

Secularism was not part of our constitution originally in 1947. You need to discuss anti Hindu clauses of 1947 edition. Also actions of 'seculars' favouring "minority".

[@raghave1043]

The writing is on the wall.... 1. The more this melodrama of protests in the disguise of secularism, the more people shift towards BJP 2. The more the Condemning President, selective demeaning of the independent institutions like SC, EC (of course when they don't rule in your favour), the more you loose the Ground support i.e Electoral support 3. The more you challenge on Hinduism, make rude comments, insult Gods/Goddess (and keep mum on comments like "sar tan se juda"), the more is the weeping on the Electoral result day 4. The more you show case the negativity / lower your level of discourse, (without offering viable alternative and something positive in solution), the more you loose badly. 5.The more you lement/complain/cringe especially on social media platforms rather than doing Ground work, the more is the intensity of your defeat. It may sound harsh, rude, bitter and not likable at all. But this is the hard truth

[@sunilnambiar5326]

Large majority of Indians vote for good governance... Not for ideology.. You are comparing Sonia/Rahul Gandhis & Mulayam / Laloo yadav with Modi.. Kejriwal is getting re-elected because of his relative good governance record.. Not ideology...

[@saranshchauhan4353]

I vote because I am an unapologetic Hindu, I am Ramjas College student there are Hindu students from all the caste and states in my class all of them vote BJP because they are proud Hindus

[@vanshsachdeva28]

Shekhar, we need more journalists like you 🦸!!! I follow The Print from the UK. It's one of the few sources that I trust when it comes to the world and national news/updates 🥇. You ring-fence the real & core issues and articulate them effortlessly with the on-point research 💯. You and your team are smashing it 💥

[@ananth224]

Shekar is the most rational lefty

[@LatzViz]

"Rational left" ..isn't it an oxymoron

[@Nkgmr17]

"Left"

[@kadamsuresh]

I think Modi is the savior of Indian democracy and visionary for new India. Honestly I see the changes compared to 8 years ago. Every day I am watching Shekhar Ji videos, when he talks about Modi , he is so biased against him.

[@Shubham0514]

This "sar tan se juda" era will ensure next 10 years of BJP rule. Muslims extremism leads to BJP victory.

[@Baluph]

Earlier Hindus were SECULAR; Muslims were COMMUNAL.Now, Hindus are still SECULAR and Muslims are still COMMUNAL.Only difference is Hindus are voting for the BJP/NDA. And the so-called secular parties are/were never SECULAR.

[@atuld]

The message to non-BJP parties is quite clear. Treat all Indians as Indians first and don’t take the silent majority for granted. The only way back for these parties is to completely revamp themselves and focus on governance and equal opportunity rather than the pseudo divisions they’ve tried to exploit for years.

[@shalinisriram902]

Dear Shekarji, We are Hindus. We are also tired of the stupid politicians who wear Januwars for votes as much as we are tired of them wearing skullcaps for votes. As a responsible journalist, you should also stop talking about castes / religion for reasons for vote and focus your episodes on work done by the governments.

[@rajanigali123]

I believe UCC only the way to make Hindus believe that appeasement of one community may not be happen again and they start voting with different preferences, that might change the fortunes of opposition. So opposition needs to fight hard for UCC and BJP will talk lot about it but it won’t implement by showing opposition from opposition.

[@AnIndianify]

Along with Population control bill, limiting the no of offspring they can have to one, if ore than one , remove their voting rights , deprive them of any property right, basically make them a refugee in this land.

[@Ragd0ll1337]

The BJP stands for something. It has a vision and identity. Congress no longer does. It has no core platform outside being in opposition to BJP, and enriching their political elite.

[@pralinkp3224]

Well that is some relatable analysis of the current reality. As no one thinks to take hindus granted and the sole protector of secularism. Times have changed if everyone wants to secular we are there if not it's done and dusted.

[@srinipammi]

Thanks!

[@garyish]

Another brilliant episode. So called secular parties need to check their own glass house before throwing stones at others. What did Rajiv Gandhi do with shah bano case ? What about uniform civil code ? Currently only goa has it due to Portuguese influence. Rest of India is still stuck with the non secular religious codes from British times. Congress + other so called secular parties have indulged in selective appeasement of some minorities under the fake garb of secularism. You want real secularism ? Bring UCC. Remove all restrictions of free speech. One nation, one law. French style.

[@ThePrintIndia]

Thanks for writing in.

[@footyshorts6323]

​@@ThePrintIndia I don't want to vote for only BJP. But what can i do ... Other Parties abuse our religion and culture so much all the time

[@hariharans4962]

What happened to all the 1000 plus year old temples of Delhi...not even one left.... secular...my foot

[@arunangshumazumdar9234]

Something good and meaningful things are happening in this country after many years. The cleansing of all the past wrong deed is essential to start afresh.

[@craumm]

India has 2 religious right wings - Hindu right wing which now has political power. - Muslim right wing which has had political power and enjoys global support

[@neelakantannatarajan3851]

Thank the muslims and Christians for making hindus more religious

[@pulkit4107]

True😂

[@pulkit4107]

And thank the left wing for popularizing right wing

[@ajaysharma6811]

HINDUISM IS SECULARISM as simple as that...we hindus from J&K hv seen Muslim version of secularism v closely

[@kenpachiyoriichi]

First you can campaign for removing/changing article 30 from the constitution and then you can preach to us about secularism.

[@raghavgopal4363]

Nehru disliked Hindus and their rituals, let’s not forget that. Nehru would hold an iftar party but not a Diwali celebration. Contrast this to the USA where Diwali is celebrated in the White House. Why would a secular political party not abolish triple talaq? Let’s not forget that many Muslims do vote for the BJP. India remains a secular nation but not in the definition of shekar and Nehru, that’s fine by me

[@kumanet99]

Leave it to the 80% Hindus to rule. India will be a better country. India is the only country in the world whereby foreign Abrahamic religions interfere and mess around with the majority. indigenous Hindus in a big way. Abrahamic religions has political motives in its scripture ' the Quran ' There are 53 Muslim country and many more Christian countries. In these countries majority rules and enjoy democracy and Islam in their own way, without any other religious interference to destroy the majority views.. Hindus are all over the world, without creating any problems at all.