How the Israelites Escaped From Egypt | The Weird Bible: Episode 7

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The Lore Lodge

The Lore Lodge

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One of the best known stories of all time, the story of how Moses parted the Red Sea as the Israelites left Egypt has been told and retold for countless generations. But what did it look like? When did it happen? Who was involved? Some people tell of chariots in the Red Sea, while others deny the event ever took place. Buckle up, the Bible is about to get Weird.
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@dvoges7070
@dvoges7070 Жыл бұрын
stream starts at 6:59
@noravanguard3993
@noravanguard3993 Жыл бұрын
Wow almost 7 minutes... very breaded of them lol.
@gabrielmirandahurtado6539
@gabrielmirandahurtado6539 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, friend
@AdrianCruz_
@AdrianCruz_ Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting 🚫🍞 here
@noravanguard3993
@noravanguard3993 Жыл бұрын
@@AdrianCruz_ the 🚫🍞 are everywhere
@littletree6005
@littletree6005 Жыл бұрын
🫡
@OGA103
@OGA103 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed how open to faith Daredevil was. It's just nice to find a really great show that's not also openly hostile to your own beliefs.
@HonorableAssassins
@HonorableAssassins Жыл бұрын
late response but I just wanted to say I agree. I range from agnostic to atheist depending on how my day's going but even I groan alloud with how often popular media trash religion, its horrifically unnecessary. To me, its simple. The same people that were always prejudiced will always be prejudiced, regardless of generation. Its no longer 'cool' to hate blacks or gays, so now they hate religion instead. In another 10 years itll be a new group thats 'okay' to hate, and the cycle continues.
@13StJimmy
@13StJimmy Жыл бұрын
Ahh my favorite time of the month, honestly one of the best podcasts out there
@ME-wn4sz
@ME-wn4sz Жыл бұрын
I came for the fun explanations of supernatural critters, I'm staying for the incredible analysis of my own faith
@a55a551nxki114x
@a55a551nxki114x Жыл бұрын
May god bless Wendi and his guns.
@lishthefish1423
@lishthefish1423 Жыл бұрын
Wendiguns!
@rsccrplyr
@rsccrplyr Жыл бұрын
If you guys ever run out of biblical stories to talk about (probably still got a long time till that day), or maybe for a change of pace, I've got a suggestion for a related topic. With both your expertise on the Bible and history, I'd love to hear discussions on Christian traditions relating to other religions. What I mean is, people often say a lot of Christian stuff was just taken from a pagan religion and a lot of holidays we now celebrate as Christian (Christmas, Easter) are to replace pagan holidays. However, I've listened to other podcasts where a pretty knowledgeable Catholic guy said, yeah that's not true and there's actual reasons why Christmas is when it is relating to Christ's birth... Anyways, what I'm getting at is, with your knowledge it would be good to hear what you guys think or know in matters such as comparing religions (as in how they might relate to Christianity) as well as Christian traditions and their history.
@ca44444
@ca44444 Жыл бұрын
From my understanding as a pagan who is really interested in learning about this stuff, the holidays themselves are based on Christian beliefs/events, but traditions such as Christmas trees or Easter eggs are either originally pagan in nature or introduced by the Victorians. Seeing them analyze other stuff related to Christianity/The Bible would honestly be cool though. Personally I would love to see them go through the Keys of Solomon, which are absolutely wild to learn about.
@Sm64wii
@Sm64wii Жыл бұрын
Enjoy this podcast so much. Always enjoyed Wendigoons content and it makes me happy to see a Christian succeed on KZbin while being open about his beliefs. Keep up the good work and hope to see you a third time on the official podcast! Always fun to see
@GrandMasterEzio1800
@GrandMasterEzio1800 Жыл бұрын
Reasons Wendigoon is my favorite KZbinr: Donates $393 to a friend to force him into a sexy calendar
@josuecevallos7084
@josuecevallos7084 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad Wendigoon is on a pod about super interesting stuff making it fun and easy to consume. You guys help so much while I do school work or laying around thank you guys ❤️
@onionxturtle5684
@onionxturtle5684 Жыл бұрын
Wendigoon is such a beast. Pushed the calendar through lmao. Keep it up guys! Both channels are fantastic.
@chrisbael9474
@chrisbael9474 Жыл бұрын
I love this podcast! Always listen while I'm at work. Keep it up guys great job!
@thecringygamer_4656
@thecringygamer_4656 Жыл бұрын
I may be nonreligious, but I find a lot of meaning in these readings and they are very thought-provoking! Thank you
@Clyde-S-Wilcox
@Clyde-S-Wilcox 2 ай бұрын
Just discovered yiur channel recently. Im so glad to find people with exactly the same attitude towards the Israelites as I have
@TheMimiSard
@TheMimiSard Жыл бұрын
A thought I had of why a lamb is because sheep are pretty peaceful animals - not totally peaceful because they can headbutt and stampede, but they are a herd animal that is inclined to peacefully graze if undisturbed. So to link that with the "Lamb of God' symbolism, God stands for peace (but not totally harmless) and a lamb is the innocent and pure version of that.
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like they missed that point when going over that subject briefly. There is some behavioral symbolism going on there with the lamb and the real animal. Like in the New Testament, where we have the analogy of the sheep and the goats.
@ianbuchan8548
@ianbuchan8548 7 ай бұрын
I like another part in specifically the new testament where we are like stubborn dumb sheep that need our shepherd God. I know that sounds mean but that need for reliance on God is nice to me😅
@UnderQualifiedSports
@UnderQualifiedSports Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe I missed the stream again. Gonna catch it one of these days
@Idkoogabooga4
@Idkoogabooga4 Жыл бұрын
I’d have to say if I could witness any Biblical moment I would want to be at the last supper, But if I couldn’t witness Christ I’d like to witness the moment read the 10 commandments to everyone. I don’t think I could handle seeing Jesus being crucified
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
That would’ve been cool seen Moses come down out of the mountain
@horseface31
@horseface31 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos. I wish you guys could do them more often.
@n0rst4thew1cked3
@n0rst4thew1cked3 Жыл бұрын
Im actually suprised when they were mentioning music that August Burns Red wasnt brought. Hugely christian band. One of the members has his own podcast named something around The Holy Ghost podcast or something of the like. Definitely for those who like heavier music
@Son_of_Russ
@Son_of_Russ Жыл бұрын
I'm only halfway through so I'm not sure if they mention them but Fit for a King is nice and heavy too.
@n0rst4thew1cked3
@n0rst4thew1cked3 Жыл бұрын
@@Son_of_Russ they didnt. Just alot more of the "mainstream" stuff. Though for its genre ABR is mainstream lol
@ldowdy9828
@ldowdy9828 Жыл бұрын
Phinhaes is amazing as well. Idk if they mention that one.
@pigboiii
@pigboiii Жыл бұрын
Huh never knew that about them. Not a massive fan though so could be that.
@n0rst4thew1cked3
@n0rst4thew1cked3 Жыл бұрын
@@pigboiii August Burns Red's christmas albums fucking slap. I play them every year. Im hoping they do another one this year
@thecoordinate7144
@thecoordinate7144 Жыл бұрын
As a christian, I think the one question I don't have a fullproof apologetic answer is for other intelligent life's sin and salvation plans since humanity is tied to adams sin and jesus becoming a human to restore that. Would love to hear what yall takes are.
@colbyryan14
@colbyryan14 Жыл бұрын
hey cord fellow christian here I know I'm 2 months late but is this like how dolphins do some messed up stuff? cause I'm not sure that God gave other species a immortal spirit so im not sure if they can actually sin. honestly never even considered it
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about aliens or animals the earth like the person above me said?
@ianbuchan8548
@ianbuchan8548 7 ай бұрын
Wendigoon: pays $400 for a suggestive calendar of his friend. -"So anyway, Jesus is representative of a lamb because it's purity and innocence. That's why Jesus is-"
@wolvarine35
@wolvarine35 Жыл бұрын
why does Wendigoon pronounce these mountains like a fed? especially with him talking about shooting dogs. is he an ATF agent? is archie safe?
@noahd5545
@noahd5545 Жыл бұрын
video starts at 7:00
@Bri-zj4wn
@Bri-zj4wn Жыл бұрын
I love this so much please keep it up
@elias7819
@elias7819 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure there’s a real connection here, but the Arabic word for Palestine is فلسطين which is pronounced just like ‘philistine’
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
Yes , you’ve reminded me of that, there’s definitely a connection. Even to this day , the battle continues between the Israelites and the “Palestinians”
@josiaharaki7310
@josiaharaki7310 Жыл бұрын
If I recall, the guy who crushed Jerusalem in 70 ad renamed the region Palestine to mock the jews, akin to if Germany won WWII and renamed England to "France 2"
@davidmcbride6203
@davidmcbride6203 Жыл бұрын
We could totally crowdfund a Bible movie for wendi
@chrisprysok7634
@chrisprysok7634 8 ай бұрын
Please tell me youre not debunking billy carsons story wgere moses steals the ark and the lid blew across the kings chamber. Love that one. 😂
@user-cr9zo5yo9k
@user-cr9zo5yo9k Жыл бұрын
One of the things that bugged me so much about Moses’ story was when God killed all those innocent Egyptian kids… Eventually that was one of the things that led me away from the faith. I know it’s not entirely related to this video but I really want to hear your thoughts on this. I’m sorry… I know its kinda a loaded question. It’s just, learning that as a kid was kinda traumatic. And I always thought it was F’ed up, yet the youth pastors never batted an eye. Was there something I missed…?
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
Pharaoh did it to the Israelites first
@user-cr9zo5yo9k
@user-cr9zo5yo9k Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge Yeah… but that was the Pharaoh Not the innocent children of Egypt. Are all those deaths truly justified because of the actions of one individual?
@apriljohnson6798
@apriljohnson6798 Жыл бұрын
@@user-cr9zo5yo9k this is a question I've had as well. I'm interested to hear their thoughts on this.
@LethargicGM
@LethargicGM Жыл бұрын
It was the bronze age. Every other societal issue was solved by genocide and or slavery. The eye for an eye style justice God went for is, for that era, impractically humane.
@akumaherupa7411
@akumaherupa7411 Жыл бұрын
@@user-cr9zo5yo9k it is a different time you have to remember that back then people would kill each other over anything at all and it was kill or be killed. Also remember pharaoh did the same so it is a lesson coming back around. Also the children that live there would have made it to heaven from what I remember but it has been years, all people who don't have the comprehension of sin and understand how to turn away they are forgiven and saved. It may be messed up that they all died but they would have been going back home. If you also start to look as life as your passage to heaven then death is you coming home.
@robynwilde
@robynwilde 5 ай бұрын
Can we get some specific book/article/video recommendations for learning about the Seminole? 1:40:04
@anamkarajoy
@anamkarajoy 7 ай бұрын
I mean, you could just have Wendigoon take four of the months for you guys in the calendar. He’s cute.
@OffRampTourist
@OffRampTourist 4 ай бұрын
Good book with Masonic backdrop: Robert Heinlein's If This Goes On. Written long before everything was on the internet. Would be interested in your thoughts on his portrayal.
@thegrimharvest
@thegrimharvest Жыл бұрын
"AcKtsHuAlly" Wasn't the water complaint at Kadesh the reason Moses wasn't allowed to enter the promised land? By the time of that incident, it'd been 40 years since the Jews had been this close to crossing over. That was the site where the spies were sent out, came back, and all but two of them stirred up the people against Moses with complaints about how they were going to die in the wilderness. That said, I can see how easily it was for Wendi to conflate the Moses water story and the spies bad report into one single event.
@21506ash
@21506ash 2 ай бұрын
Watching as a word out
@miker9930
@miker9930 Жыл бұрын
Idk if it’s mentioned or not, but when the Israelites camp in the desert, they camp in the formation of a cross. The Bible has the numbers of people per tribe, and they all camp in different spots (north, south, east, and west) some tribes are bigger than others…but when you do the math, it’s the formation of a crucifix.
@codygillard
@codygillard Жыл бұрын
Will you ever cover the book of Ecclesiastes?
@AmandaW1169
@AmandaW1169 Жыл бұрын
Love this podcast!
@brendanfields3691
@brendanfields3691 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for new video hope it come up soon
@akumaherupa7411
@akumaherupa7411 Жыл бұрын
I still think of a tattoo with all the different types of Bible accurate angels in black and white with bright blue and red accents for the eyes and fire would be so amazing.
@JackedChristian
@JackedChristian Жыл бұрын
Y’all guys should listen to “I’m so sick” it’s a christian song and so amazing
@bryanstanton8198
@bryanstanton8198 Жыл бұрын
Want to share my theory on the flesh pedestrian and the nephilim. I personally don't think the flesh pedestrians are nephilim, and at the least, I think they are so far from nephilim they cannot be properly refered to as nephilim. I personally postulate that Giants such as Goliath and the nephilim and Norse gods are three different distinct things. Norse/Greek/roman gods all have some sort of innate power. These would be men who would' 'fall' on others. Giants like Goliath have no supernatural powers, other than being big bois physically. Flesh pedestrians cannot teleport, at least as far as I know, but some of them can shapeshift. Some also are immune to bullets if those stories are to be believed. Some have minor teleportation, as in when you look away for a split second, they can get close nearly instantly. This may be fleshgait type memory editing though, simply removing the memory as it's made of it moving closer. That being said I do think that windy bois/ flesh pedestrians as a whole could be at least somewhat supernatural. I am interested to hear your take on this. "And the angels were as mountains, rotating in the void" P.s. absolutely love your channel. Glad to see how much you've grown. I think I got here at about 10k subs, and remebering the lorelodge and checking in to see 60+k subs was very impressive. Can't wait for 100k.
@dalefred93
@dalefred93 Жыл бұрын
Flesh WHAT NOW?
@lishthefish1423
@lishthefish1423 Жыл бұрын
imagine if they had Fitbits back then. their step count would be off the charts!
@LordMephilis
@LordMephilis Жыл бұрын
I could not find this playlist on spotify x.x
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
This show isn’t on Spotify (yet)
@LordMephilis
@LordMephilis Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge I meant the unforseen Christian playlist
@seal7144
@seal7144 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of the music topic section near the end of the podcast, how do y’all feel about the Christian metal band Stryper?
@Sle3pyNinj4
@Sle3pyNinj4 8 ай бұрын
I must've been one of these people stuck in the desert in my past life 😂😂😂
@skater468
@skater468 Жыл бұрын
should it be touched on that God came down onto the mountain, on earth, and started feeling such anger towards the Israelites? If im not mistaken he wasnt so angry when dealing with sodom and gommorah or the great flood? Why is it that when he came down to earth, it seems like he started feeling through a more human stained glass?
@joshuastevens3100
@joshuastevens3100 Жыл бұрын
Where will we be able to buy this movie
@lunarshadow7712
@lunarshadow7712 Жыл бұрын
2:08:25 Question at this point had the no other idols thing been told to the people? Bc if the commandments had not been delivered yet that kinda rubs me the wrong way that God is angry for doing what these people have done in past in worship. They were probably seeking something familiar after this time of turmoil.
@ZevesG
@ZevesG Жыл бұрын
i created this intelligent race of people, sure hope they at some point act intelligently.
@kaitlint3987
@kaitlint3987 Жыл бұрын
Start 7:00 , ,👍
@skypentraico4322
@skypentraico4322 Жыл бұрын
To Summarize the chat: Milk
@roflchiefmcjoflchief1791
@roflchiefmcjoflchief1791 Жыл бұрын
Wendigoon whipping out the wendigun
@crazypurplehair5722
@crazypurplehair5722 Жыл бұрын
I know that Mormons have a hymn about the first part... (it kinda slapps too!) Abraham the prophet prayed to have a son, so the Lord sent Isaac as the chosen one. Isaac begat Jacob, known as Israel; Jacob’s sons were twelve tribes, so the Bible tells
@crazypurplehair5722
@crazypurplehair5722 Жыл бұрын
Will Isaac die?! First cliffhanger ending ever.
@tylercampion2353
@tylercampion2353 Жыл бұрын
Got to love adens masonic background tiles.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
They’re just acoustic panels 😂
@tylercampion2353
@tylercampion2353 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge mmmhhhmm, no hate brother. Love your stuff especially the weird Bible studies.
@josiaharaki7310
@josiaharaki7310 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if they mention this in the video, but, supposedly, the tradition of calling Israel "Palestine" was a form of mockery by the Romans following the crushing of Jerusalem, with the word being derived from "Philistines", and thus stripping Israel/Judea of even their name remaining on the land and renaming it after one of their greatest ancestral enemies. It'd be like if Nazi Germany conquered Great Britain and renamed the island "France 2: The frankening", just to add insult to injury. Of the tribes of Israel, there was no "Tribe" of Joseph, as Jacob gave Joseph the double portion of his blessing/inheritance, which was then split between Joseph's sons Ephraim and Manasseh. Thus there were 12 tribes, as Joseph's descendants made up two "half-tribes" The land, however, was split only 12 ways, as the tribe of Levi didn't have a specific area of it's own, but rather had designated regions in each of the other tribes, as they were the custodians of the Priesthood. Regarding the striking of the rock, I seem to recall it being two separate events, the first being striking the rock, and the second being when he was ordered to speak to the rock a while AFTER the 40 year punishment. I believe Hebrews states that it was a symbolic image of Christ being the rock that is struck and from whom living water flows. The way my pastor described it, anyway, was that the second time should have represented that the work was completed and that all was required was calling upon it, but Moses ruined the imagery by smiting the rock again. The fact he yelled "You want me to give you water, you rebels/morons!" definitely didn't help either, as he both made it seem like he was producing the water himself, like he had the superpower to make water, rather than acting as a conduit for God, while also making it seem as God himself were angry with the Israelites. This was when Moses himself was forbidden from entering Canaan, not the congregation as a whole, which was due to the fear and lack of faith the majority of the people had when the 12 spies were sent into Canaan and returned with the "there's giants here" report. The order of events being: Hebrews leave Mt. Sinai (Numbers 10:11) Spies sent into Canaan (Numbers 13) Israel refuses to enter Canaan (Numbers 14:1-5) Joshua and Caleb speak out in favor of entering (Numbers 14:6-9) God offers to wipe the other israelites out and start over with Moses, who pleads for forgiveness for the people (Numbers 14:11-22) God pronounces the punishment instead being that none of the generation that left Egypt would be allowed to enter the Promised land with the exception of Caleb and Joshua, and they'd all die in the wilderness. Num 14:23-38 Failed attempt to enter Canaan anyway (Rest of Numbers 14) Moses strikes the rock at Kadesh (Numbers 20)
@DanGleebowls
@DanGleebowls 9 ай бұрын
As an Englishman the idea of Britain being renamed "France 2: The Frankening" makes me seethe, well done.
@kameronhughes884
@kameronhughes884 Жыл бұрын
It's The Lore Lussy, and the Wendigussy.
@ivetterodriguez9628
@ivetterodriguez9628 Жыл бұрын
I forgot there was genocide within Israel.
@tortrest282
@tortrest282 Жыл бұрын
post on spotify
@dawsonlanham7039
@dawsonlanham7039 Жыл бұрын
Bookmark:2:11:18
@TheMimiSard
@TheMimiSard Жыл бұрын
Actually, on the point of the Philistines disappearing, Mum has an anecdote that she saw something on TV where Yasser Arafat claimed Palestinian people were the Philistina. Maybe that was him trying to claim a false heritage, and given that ancient Philistine land may have been Israel, and modern Palestine is in that area as well... well maybe it is circumstantial location.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
The term “Palestine” does derive from “Philistine” but in the sense that the Romans renamed the province in 72 AD after the Jewish Revolt. The name change was meant as an insult to the Jews, symbolically giving their homeland to their ancient enemies.
@Boysermusic
@Boysermusic Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge that's wildly interesting
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
@@Boysermusic as is the Bible as a whole. Even in our days symbolically, the conflict continues between Palestinian people in the new established Israel nation.
@lordpotassiumthegoldenking
@lordpotassiumthegoldenking Жыл бұрын
"nothing was poirfect"
@thecoordinate7144
@thecoordinate7144 Жыл бұрын
1:33:48
@williamdunhan341
@williamdunhan341 Жыл бұрын
Moses was just as Jew as them. If Moses had let The LORD burn them all & restart with his line, no promise is broken.
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
I get what you’re getting that, and he was still part of Abraham seed, so no promise would’ve been broken. So he was a Israelite but I don’t believe he would’ve been considered a Jew, since you can only be from the tribe of Judah is considered a Jew.. And I believe him, and his brother of Course were from the tribe of Levi
@Iijjccbb
@Iijjccbb Жыл бұрын
The Bible is a fucking comedy sometimes
@beanscommajim4980
@beanscommajim4980 Жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting to bring this up on the stream, but yall need to check out The Chosen for some based Chrsitian film content
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve heard about that. Does it still cost of membership to watch all the episodes?
@windydawn5988
@windydawn5988 6 ай бұрын
🤗🤗🤗
@prod.xavius2739
@prod.xavius2739 Жыл бұрын
if yall ever get a gamersupps flavor plz name it rock water
@chonkychookie6949
@chonkychookie6949 Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, I don't know who came here to see the boys "on the rails"
@jamesdaviesanswers8751
@jamesdaviesanswers8751 Жыл бұрын
Goats
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
Sheep
@danielpeterborromeo8588
@danielpeterborromeo8588 6 ай бұрын
🎉🎉
@danielpeterborromeo8588
@danielpeterborromeo8588 6 ай бұрын
🎉 42:46
@TheMimiSard
@TheMimiSard Жыл бұрын
Hobbits are English. Dwarves are Jewish.
@MarshallTheArtist
@MarshallTheArtist 22 күн бұрын
Hobbits are Irish. ☘️
@BathrobeKeck
@BathrobeKeck 8 ай бұрын
You guys are sooooo close. @Lore Lodge. Do some more research about the Elohim in regards to the Canaanite- Pre-Abrahamic faith. Yahwe is a child of El. Start there and follow the rabbit hole.
@darrenbridges7492
@darrenbridges7492 7 ай бұрын
You haven't got a clue ???
@LibraryOfChris
@LibraryOfChris Жыл бұрын
I’m an atheist religious studies MA. I actually enjoy hearing others talk about their faith, theology, and philosophy. We wouldn’t agree on pretty much anything. I don’t view the Exodus as historical in the way it’s portrayed, Judaism was originally henotheistic and became monotheistic during the Babylonian exile, Slavery was/is approved by YHWH and what was read only referred to how to treat Jewish/Hebrew slaves (foreign slaves had it much worse), I don’t see Jesus prophesied anywhere in the Hebrew Bible/OT, etc. However, my only push back would be to be aware of antisemitism. I understand it’s not meant to be malicious but Christian interpretation can come off that way. Pointing out how dumb you think the Jews are/were or that you believe they committed deicide hasn’t led to very good things historically.
@aguilarraliuga1777
@aguilarraliuga1777 Жыл бұрын
I smell a sneaky Jew, a self hating one at that
@ivetterodriguez9628
@ivetterodriguez9628 Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the church I always thought the prophecies of Jesus were just added over the ages by nuns. Either that, or the prophecies did happen by coincidince. It always bothered me how certain they were that some text is talking about Jesus. Even Isaiah 53 doesn't make sense near the end.
@LibraryOfChris
@LibraryOfChris Жыл бұрын
@@ivetterodriguez9628 I grew up in church too, I actually got into religious studies because my church experience. All the Gospels were written 40+ years after Jesus’s crucifixion. With the prophecies, Jesus actually didn’t fulfill the Jewish Messianic prophecies. That’s the reason Christians think he’s going to return and do them. The other prophecies like Isiah 53 weren’t ever considered prophecies by most Jews. The Gospel writers chose things like being from David’s line, being from Bethlehem, and escaping Egypt and being born from a virgin (the Hebrew just says young woman btw) and created the story. The scholarly consensus is Mark was written first around 70-80 and copied along with the Q Gospel (lost gospel with only quotes of Jesus). Around 80-90 Luke and Matthew copied Mark and added and changed things they didn’t like. John was completely separate and written around 90. Most Christians were former pagans so Christianity is a weird mix of Paganism and Judaism, very few Jews actually converted and all Jesus’s followers besides Paul expected people to convert to Judaism if they wanted to be considered Christians. It’s doubtful the early Christians even viewed Jesus as god.
@ShrexyGuy
@ShrexyGuy Жыл бұрын
If you're worried about Antisemitism it's not the religion that gives credit to Judaism as the start of abrahamic religions you need to worry about. It's actually kind of laughable to feel the need to say it even given Jews and christians havent had major conflicts in what, 1850 years?
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Жыл бұрын
All I’ll say is , there’s many other scholars out there in ancient near East religions and languages that would like a word with you.
@DrFrieden7R
@DrFrieden7R Жыл бұрын
Drink your god!!! >:C
@chinchin7908
@chinchin7908 Жыл бұрын
stream starts at 16:43
@hiddenfrogsnatcher4796
@hiddenfrogsnatcher4796 Жыл бұрын
Pretty easy considering they were never there
@thunder9134
@thunder9134 Жыл бұрын
I say this respectfully, you guys laugh too much, you should be more serious when speaking of stories of the prophets the past generations, and this is coming from a Muslim. Also just wanted to clear Aaron of building the golden calf, the Quran clears up that lie attributed to a prophet of God. Aaron was never involved in building or worshiping the calf, instead he warned his people against doing such actions. The story is mentioned in Surah Taha and Al Araf in the Quran.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
With all due respect, the Quran is absolutely no authority on Old Testament stories. It was written 1800 years after the events of Exodus by a man who got numerous Old Testament stories wrong.
@thunder9134
@thunder9134 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge The Quran doesn’t get any stories wrong since it’s the direct word of God, revelation from the One who has witnessed all events in history. It corrects the errors in the stories of the past generations and frees the prophets of lies and wrong-doings attributed to them. However I can’t force you to believe this nor can you force me to believe otherwise, you must simply do your own research. Peace.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
@@thunder9134 I have read the Quran, and while I respect your interest in believing it, I do not share your confidence. I do appreciate your tolerance, however. Peace be upon you, brother.
@thegrimharvest
@thegrimharvest Жыл бұрын
@@thunder9134 Genuinely curious, what is the Qur'an's explanation for how and why there are so many errors, or perhaps misconceptions of previous works. Or, barring that it doesn't explicitly state why or how, what is your understanding of how there were errors or misunderstandings, if not outright lies made about the prophets, accusing them of wrongdoings? Is it attributed to outright malice, ignorance, human error, some combination ? Thanks.
@thunder9134
@thunder9134 Жыл бұрын
@@thegrimharvest yes Quran is aware of the distortions of the previous scriptures for example the bible claims that prophet Solomon (peace be upon him) disbelieved and worshiped idols, the Quran clears that false accusation “Never did Solomon disbelieve” 2:102 Also biblical scholars are even aware of the corruption, distortion, adding and subtracting of the bible, so it’s not safe to put our salvation on the line for something that may or may not be 100% the word of God. Also I’ll list some ayats (verses of the Quran) that may answer your question: So woe to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”-seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned. Al-Baqarah, Ayah 79 Do you covet [the hope, O believers], that they would believe for you while a party of them used to hear the words of Allah and then distort the Torah after they had understood it while they were knowing? Al-Baqarah, Ayah 75 There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book-but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”-but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly. Aal-E-Imran, Ayah 78
@windydawn5988
@windydawn5988 6 ай бұрын
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