Lord of Spirits - A Land of Giants [Ep. 7]

Lord of Spirits from November 26, 2020. There are giants in the Bible. Many Christians have tried to explain them away, ignore them, or treat them as mere metaphors. But the Orthodox Church takes giants seriously. Join Fr. Stephen De Young and Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick as they venture into the ancient Land of Giants and discuss why the Book of Joshua is probably not what you thought it was.
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Lord of Spirits - A Land of Giants [Ep. 7]
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[@atmalewis1768]

I've learned so much about the history of Abraham's decendents. The Golan Heights are the area of Bashan and the demonic Baal worshipers, NOW I understand a lot more about the fighting going on there.

[@GuitarTunings33]

It appears as though white people are the lost sons of Joseph/Israel. The area that Abraham was originally from has found that the people that lived there in that time were genetically related to Europeans. Early Egyptian mummies were redheaded and blondes with same European DNA. Which is probably why Joseph was able to blend in so well with the Egyptian elite to the point his own brothers didn't recognize him. Paul said that the only difference in appearance between Judeans and Greeks was circumcision.

[@easymentality]

About my 7th listen through of this video, I finally stopped being entirely stupid, and started taking notes. Easily my favorite episode so far. 👌

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

I was wondering when this one would come to KZbin. It's my favorite episode.

[@AncientFaithMinistries]

Mine too, I’m not sure why it never made it to KZbin a couple years ago!

[@jjohnsoc23]

@@AncientFaithMinistries given the content, I just assumed it received a strike and a ban

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

​@AncientFaithMinistries I really only have two questions so far. Given that they say you become a "giant" through ritualistic means, does that mean they weren't actually giant in the sense of being unnaturally tall? And where is their source that there was a bed found in a ziggurat that matches the height and width of Og's bed?

[@AncientFaithMinistries]

@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 unfortunately, I am not Fr. Stephen. You’ll have to send an email or call into a Lord of Spirits episode to ask

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

@@AncientFaithMinistries I know, I'm asking your honest opinion : )

[@G.TheGreek79]

All Glory to God for allowing me to find this podcast, and this episode specifically!!! This was an absolutely gem of an episode!! Thank you so much Fathers for all the hard work that you put into teaching the faithful! May The Lord shine His face brightly upon you and your families now & always!☦️

[@jimhellenic9643]

Yes, that verse from Macabees where it says that the Spartans and the Hebrews we’re descendants of Abraham had always confused me.

[@zita-lein]

Probably my fifth time through this one. So much here. Well done! ❤️💙

[@startraveler3157]

Yeah and I've learned nothing also. It's almost like they are afraid to give a substantial answer to who the sons of God were.

[@europos4541]

Great, thank you - any idea what specific Egyptian and Ugaritic ritual texts are referred to here?

[@rigavitch]

Thank you for this episode. Thoroughly enjoyed every second. Rivetting 3 hours but can't get my head around how much was so right and how much was ignored. There is a lot of archeological evidence for physically large giants etc...

[@erykpaulmahaaruna1200]

Hot take- Giants self rebranded as “Elites”? 3:26:33

[@jimhellenic9643]

“TITAN” in Greek numbering does not add up to 666 but 661: T=300 I=10 T=300 A=1 N=50

[@mikebaker2436]

You forgot the "e". Tειτάν is 666. Read St. Irenaeus. There are alternate spellings in ancient geek.

[@mikebaker2436]

Also here... "But now we shall speak of what is before us. For such measures will he, too, devise, seeking to afflict the saints in every way. For the prophet and apostle says: Here is wisdom, Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man, and his number is six hundred threescore and six. With respect to his name, it is not in our power to explain it exactly, as the blessed John understood it and was instructed about it, but only to give a conjectural account of it; for when he appears, the blessed one will show us what we seek to know. Yet as far as our doubtful apprehension of the matter goes, we may speak. Many names indeed we find, the letters of which are the equivalent of this number: such as, for instance, the word Titan (ὡς φέρε εἰπεῖν τὸ Τειτάν ἐστιν), an ancient and notable name; or Evanthas, for it too makes up the same number; and many others which might be found...." -St Hippolytus of Rome On Christ and Antichrist from Chapter 50

[@GuitarTunings33]

When the Israelites were scouting out the Nephilim Canaanites and came back with news about their being giant's, and the Israelites were as grasshoppers: this is presumably the general population they were seeing, they could see all these people were specifically born from some god king ritual and were all tyrants, and does grasshoppers refer to something other than size?

[@johndale1694]

I know that feeling When you nail it Awesome podcast 😊 Smile 👍

[@johndale1694]

The grace of the lord Jesus Christ Be with all the saints Amen Come lord Jesus

[@Jaybee6428]

I am who I am, I AM sent me I AM the ONE who rescued you from the land of Egypt, the place of slavery You must put no other gods before who I AM You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth beneath in the sea You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I AM jealous and WILL NOT tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parent onto the children, The entire family is affected You must not misuse my name. I will not let those who misuse my name go unpunished, You must not take who I AM in vain: Thou shalt not kill OR rape Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not covet for thy neighbor's house Thou shall not commit adultery Thou shalt not bear false witness/Not Lie on others Thou shalt honor thy mother and father Keep your day of rest holy Thou SHALT NOT KILL, written AGAIN! unless for food purposes, or last resort self-defense/survival purposes Thou shalt be kind and respect others Thou shalt NOT ENSLAVE Thou shalt protect the child Thou shalt not consort sneakily in the dark to constrict, ensnare, manipulate into corruption, or cause harm to others even for monetary gain Thou shalt help the elderly and weak and orphans or else... Thou shalt not litter The rich SHALL, in the future meaning FROM THIS POINT ON, realize money is just paper from trees and will begin using their imaginary dendritic monopoly currency to help the hopeless, homeless, starving poor, and begin fixing the infrastructure of THE HUMAN RACE and or all living beings. Thou shalt not exalt thy racial culture to be esteemed higher than any others because of your subjective stupidity Thou shalt not create torment or cruel punishments on behalf of your judicial, justice system, military, or imaginary religious beliefs

[@Jaybee6428]

As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will never leave thee nor forsake thee. Be strong and courageous "Love who I AM with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind; and, Love your neighbor as yourself." I AM love, and all who live in love live in me, and I in them. And as we live in who I AM, our love grows more perfect. So we will not be afraid on the day of judgment, but we can face him with confidence because we live like the lamb here in this world. Such love has no fear because perfect love casts out fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of punishment, and this shows that we have not fully experienced his perfect love. We love each other because he loved us first...

[@Jaybee6428]

I bless those who are poor and realize their need for who I AM, for the Kingdom of the Heart is theirs. I bless those who mourn, for they will be comforted. I bless those who are humble, for they will inherit the whole earth. I bless those who hunger and thirst for justice, for they will be satisfied. I bless those who are merciful, for they will be shown mercy. I bless those whose hearts are pure, for they will see who I AM I bless those who work for peace, for they will be called the children of who I AM. I bless those who are persecuted for doing right, for the Kingdom of the Heart is theirs. I bless you when people mock you and persecute you and lie about you and say all sorts of evil things against you because you are my followers. Be happy about it! Be very glad! For a great reward awaits you in the heart. And remember, the ancient prophets were persecuted in the same way.. 💀 🕊 |{I}\_💌 I/ \ /_ \_

[@paulkelly2701]

So might we say that the spiritual descendants of Aleister Crowley and Anton LeVey and Madame Blavatski are 'giants' in the sense this episode discusses?

[@erykpaulmahaaruna1200]

Yes and basically anyone succumbing to the demons provocation to sexually worship and multiply and sacrifice them

[@peterpapoutsis496]

So how tall where Giants? The Giant Spirits i know Fr. Stephen stared were 15 ft. Tall, but where humans very tall?

[@JohnGojcaj]

This makes all the slaughter make sense

[@johndale1694]

Og gone Sihon Gone I'm Impressed 👍😊

[@stuckmannen3876]

The modern use of 'nation' is not right. A nation cannot be reduced to only dna... ALLTHOUGH the right old understanding of 'a nation' does include a heritage by blood; so race is not "nothing" and tribes and nations do historically share a common heritage. The exception does not disprove the rule. 10 or 20 prosent of a nation beeing mixed does not negate the fact that that pertucular nation has a common heritage. Cats have 4 legs, some cats have 3 legs. But the statement "cats have 3 legs" is clearly wrong.

[@annchovey2089]

How did someone come up with Sons of God and women producing Nephilim if according to Genesis, the Nephilim were already amongst us before the Sons of God came down?

[@easymentality]

Genesis isn't the only account of events. Nor does it offer ALL the available information.

[@andrewweisbrod4506]

At 1:31:59 I was alarmed to hear an instance of the worrying argument for killing prospective enemies before they are able to do harm, even before they are able to desire it. Murder is presented as merciful because the victims might come to a worse end, and is considered comparable to an early death by natural causes. Did I misunderstand what was said? If, as Fr. says, the purpose of life is repentance, does he believe killing a prospective sinner causes the completion of repentance? Is it our place to do that? I hope there is a better way to reconcile the biblical account with the modern conscience; this one is not sufficient.

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

It's more that people that young are innocent because they don't understand yet.

[@easymentality]

You ARE mistaking the primary point of that section. The commentary about "what if the kids had survived" was an aside to the more important point: That God doesn't condemn those who are consciously innocent (like little children) when they die. The innocent children were joined into God's fold, which is undeniably the BEST outcome for anyone -- despite how horrible it may appear from THIS side of life. That in no way justifies murder. ANY murder. Even of a PROSPECTIVE sinner. You mentioned "repentance." In order to be repentant, you must first KNOW of the evils you've done. A consciously innocent child has neither reason nor NEED to repent--because they don't KNOW they've sinned. Killing a PROSPECTIVE sinner is killing someone with zero NEED of repentance. There is no repentance to "complete" there. So no, it is NOT our place to murder babies. "But God clearly said otherwise in this circumstance." No he didn't. "But he had the Israelites murder innocent children." No he didn't. To think so is to conflate "murder" with "humanity enacting the will of God." They are comparable ONLY in their appearance. There's a difference worth understanding there, and that difference is rooted in the NATURE of God as one who loves life and wants "life more abundant." Which raises the question: "Why would someone who loves life, and wants "life more abundant"...annihilate a people?" On a final note, we don't need to "reconcile" the biblical account with "the modern conscience." You've got that backwards.

[@Jim-Mc]

So are Europeans descendants of giants ? There's a lot here to suggest it.

[@johndale1694]

Just take a photo Yes video The giant strawberries

[@johndale1694]

🦅 stepping out Joshua Caleb 😊

[@johndale1694]

Guys Brothers Did you message Russell C..... He could be bored Waiting.....

[@siketyson3159]

GO RAIDERS!!!!

[@MusicEnjoyerSLS]

Why are they laughing so much? Are they taking it seriously or no?

[@chuckliquor3663]

All I can say is, Barron Trump definitely got that nephilim dna.

[@annchovey2089]

God bless Barrón. He was born into challenges most uf us will never understand.

[@johndale1694]

We are born of God Not adopted Check the 🤔 Your spirit The original If your slow to realize Your born again Not adopted I know what translation Certain ones say What do you say To the Christ Are you a Christian by your ongoing works Oh Galatians

[@johndale1694]

We are 🤔 Christ like 🤔 Christian 🤔 They were called saints Back then It's written Paul to the saint's in Corinth Peter .... Etc .... Last verse in the Bible 🤔 ... In Acts 13 They were first called Christmas...... 🤔 Nuh.... Christian s........

[@J0HN5AW]

I'm slightly amused by the subdued laughing and mocking of interpretations of the demons and Nephilim in Genesis you disagree with. I have a crazy idea for you ... Adam means red clay. Humans were on Noah's Ark for LONGER than a YEAR! What if humans came to Earth from the red planet (Mars), taking over a year to travel to Earth from Mars on a spaceship? The ravens and dove could have been scout ships. Before you laugh, do you reject the Bible literally saying Noah and his wife and their three sons and their wives were on the ark for over year? BTW, I'm Eastern Orthodox and certainly don't think you have to believe humans are from Mars and that Noah's ark was a Martian spaceship that colonized Earth, but I don't think it's wrong to believe it could be so. I also see no problem believing the Bible literally says fallen angels and human females procreated giant humans. Why do some of my Christian brethren who believe in the supernatural and in miracles laugh at and mock people who believe in demon-human giant offspring? I'm sure there are some Orthodox Christian teachers, scholars and even clergy who think Jesus didn't literally walk on water, heal people, harrow Hell and raise Himself and the Old Testament saints from the dead. It's all just symbolism, right?

[@JohnSmith-wo2fz]

If you think people came from space - you aren't Eastern Orthodox.

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

Read his comment again, but slower.

[@easymentality]

@@JohnSmith-wo2fz According to Jonathan Pageau's brother, the dust of the ground is part of space, so...people DID come from space.... (This is a pun. If you know, you know. But it's a joke, so if you don't get it, that's fine. I'm not being serious.)